The Dark Knight Rises

[Blitz]

There's no thread on it, right? Let's do this.

Anyways, release date is July 20, 2012. Filming is supposed to begin next April.

Anyways, what spurred me to make the thread now is this article (http://www.firstshowing.net/2010/07/20/excl-studio-casting-names-the-riddler-as-batman-3-villain/), in which Joseph Gordon-Levitt is rumoured as the Riddler.

Yes, it's just a rumour, but I am utterly in love with that casting.

Anyways, begin wild speculation.............now.

[Skippord]

I hope that casting happens

doubt it though

[Kalyx triaD]

Carrie Anne Moss as Selina Kyle please.

[DrA]

I'm interested in seeing how they portray The Riddler in this new film. He's very similar to The Joker, especially as cerebral as The Joker was in the last movie, so writing him as an original character could be tricky. However, he does have the potential to be a very intelligent character and is probably the perfect villian to have in these Chrisopher Nolan films. They probably should ditch the green jumpsuit though. A green suit with question marks all over it would be acceptable.

[DrA]

I also read that The Joker isn't going to be in this one at all, which I think would be the right thing to do even if Heath Ledger was still alive. His story was already told well. Any "closure" would feel forced.

[Kalyx triaD]

A simple line about Joker inspiring a new generation of crazies (just as Batman did in a way) would be closure enough. Joker left his mark on Gotham.

[Dave Youell]

If this is going to be Nolan's last one. Let's go all Arkham Asylum on us please.

Oh and David Tennant for the Riddler would be lovely

[XCaliber]

Know that this was supposedly a closed case but bring back Harvey Dent!

[El Fangel]

I would accept only one person if they ever did The Joker again and that person is Johnny Depp.

Having said that, I dont see it happening and its said nto to happen.

Please for the love of christ, dont cast a Robin or Batgirl.

[Kalyx triaD]

Robin I could fathom but where the Hell would a Batgirl come from?

[FourFifty]

I hope they bring in a Robin for two more Batman movies. Of course, in the second movie with Robin they need to recast the Joker for him to kill off Jason Todd.

[Jeritron]

I was walking around the underground tunnels in Chicago where the Joker demolition derby takes place today.
Was just walking somwhere and crossed through it and instantly recognized it, so we hung around for a bit. Twas awesome.

That is all

[Jeritron]

Riddler for sure though. I would bet just about anything on Catwoman, or at least Selina Kyle being in it. I feel even more sure about that than the Riddler.
Mainly because Rachel died in TDK and there's no way they will make the movie without a female lead/love interest. Even though Nolan makes them brilliantly, they're still blockbusters. Selina Kyle/Catwoman is the obvious choice to fill that slot

[Lock Jaw]

Robin I could fathom but where the Hell would a Batgirl come from?

Barbara Gordon isn't possible, but Cassandra Cain could be. (They won't though)

[Skippord]

I'd like for Hush to be the villain

just a big fan of Hush

[Nowhere Man]

I dunno, there really wasn't much room in Bruce's childhood flashbacks in Begins to incorporate Thomas Elliot, and since an integral part of Hush's backstory was that he and Bruce were childhood friends, it kind of robs Hush of most of his character. Plus I can't imagine the studio going with a lesser-known villain like that to follow up the Joker.

Maybe if they did like in the original Hush graphic novel, where it looked like he was behind it all but in fact Riddler was pulling the strings.

[mitchables]

I'm interested in seeing how they portray The Riddler in this new film. He's very similar to The Joker, especially as cerebral as The Joker was in the last movie, so writing him as an original character could be tricky. However, he does have the potential to be a very intelligent character and is probably the perfect villian to have in these Chrisopher Nolan films. They probably should ditch the green jumpsuit though. A green suit with question marks all over it would be acceptable.

jumpsuit hasn't been riddler's main costume since the late 80s. he mostly wears a dark green suit now, but i am a big fan of his depiction in alex ross' justice:

http://tonyznet.com/wonderwoman/comingsoon/covers/oct/Justice_2.jpg

it's basically his green suit costume with a dark green trench over it, lookin' badass. it would work perfectly in the nolan-verse. plus, they paint him as an obsessive-compulsive who can't help but leave clues for batman about his crimes because of an underlying trauma from his childhood when his father used to beat him for lying. so even though he's this brilliant criminal mind, he's compelled to tell the truth about his actions to appease the demonic torment of his father's influence.

so yeah, riddler and joker can be construed as very similar characters, especially in their surface-level depictions with all their jokes and riddles; but once you move past that into the meat of the character they're actually considerably different both in method and madness.

I hope they bring in a Robin for two more Batman movies. Of course, in the second movie with Robin they need to recast the Joker for him to kill off Jason Todd.

so what, we're covering the whole story of dick grayson becoming robin, growing dissatisfied with his treatment by batman, leaving and becoming nightwing, bruce then finding and training jason to become the second robin in time for him to already be robin in your hypothetical second film here so we can kill him off?

lame. don't write films.

[Jeritron]

I know that Nolan intentionally left the narrows out of The Dark Knight because they were left in total chaos.
I wouldn't mind, or be suprised, to see that revisited and incorporated into the main conflict somehow

[McLegend]

I'm not really big on The Riddler.

[Extreme Angle]

I heard Johnny Depp was being The Joker :S

[El Fangel]

As long as they dont put nipples on his suit again. I think I could watch any of them.

[Fignuts]

I would like to see the riddler in the role of a rival vigilante detective, like he recently was in the comics. Ending of dark knight actually sets that scenario up perfectly.

[Loose Cannon]

yea, love Riddler.

I would only want to see the Joker in one scene in the movie if he's going to be in it. Just a couple lines to Batman while he's in his cell.

[Jura]

If they did a movie very similar to "Under The Red Hood" it would be amazing.

[XL]

If they did a movie very similar to "Under The Red Hood" it would be amazing.
I kinda envisioned Joker as a Hannibal Lecter type that Batman would have to go to in order to understand The Riddler. I once mentioned the idea of having Depp play both. You could shoot Joker from behind in his cell. I think it would have an incredible duality to it.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I don't really get why so many people are mentioning Johnny Depp.

[Kalyx triaD]

He's kinda awesome.

[Sixx]

If you're a 12 year old girl.

[Sixx]

Nah, he really is a great actor.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Yeah there's no denying his acting talent but I really wouldn't want to see him in these Batman films.

[Kalyx triaD]

That's where you and a few of us differ, I guess.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Fair enough I suppose.

[Jon Kano]

Hope they just go with one antagonist. It's the last film Nolan said he would do, dunno if it would be a good idea to introduce two key characters in the last, seems like it would turn into a big mess having to explain the beginning, middle and end of more than one new character in one last film.

[Kalyx triaD]

Each of the movies had multiple villains.

[Loose Cannon]

kind of wish we get a Nolan Bane after they totally raped his character in Batman Forever or whatever that was called

[Kalyx triaD]

He'd certainly have no mask but he'd work.

[Jeritron]

Joker appearing a la Hannibal Lecter was an idea I wanted before Ledger had died. Now that he's dead, I think the character should be retired in this trilogy or series.
Re-casting him is piss poor in concept, regardless of how talented or fitting the actor chosen is. I just don't think it's worth it.
I think there were still avenues to explore with him, but his story was wrapped up pretty well and there are no loose ends so there's no need to mess with something that just about everyone agrees was magic.

[Buzzkill]

Nolan has said the Joker will not make an appearance

[El Fangel]

Joker appearing a la Hannibal Lecter was an idea I wanted before Ledger had died. Now that he's dead, I think the character should be retired in this trilogy or series.
Re-casting him is piss poor in concept, regardless of how talented or fitting the actor chosen is. I just don't think it's worth it.
I think there were still avenues to explore with him, but his story was wrapped up pretty well and there are no loose ends so there's no need to mess with something that just about everyone agrees was magic.

Completely agree, sad though since he is Batmans best known enemy.

In response to what was previously stated "Why Johnny Depp?"

Edward Scissorhands, Morten Rainey, Jack Sparrow, The Mad Hatter

Those characters seem real when Johnny did them, to the extent that you are watching these characters and not Johnny Depp portraying them. He distances himself from being Johnny Depp and becomes the character in the movie and I cant name a single actor that can do that as well as he can.

[dronepool]

^ He also played Hunter Thompson/Raoul Duke really well.

[Funky Fly]

I can see Bane being done, but he'd only not have the mask early on, by the time Batman would be on his ass, he'd be masked up. Depp Riddler would also be badass.

[dronepool]

This is fan made, but totally kicks ass.

http://api.ning.com/files/ZIE7ZABBnOE7fFaWIUHcsBJNVRwJsTm6Xm9iW8e3TuhcPU2di1rwjqFW9kPS7elL6MCR3X2upa3rrfi6F-sRRqIi0a7v43Um/Batman3.jpg

[Blitz]

A version of Bane that hewed closely to the comic's portrayal of him would be ideal for me. But I don't see Nolan doing Bane at all, since he wants to stay more realistic. But, of all the fantastical Batman characters, Bane is probably one of the few that's closest to realistic.

[XL]

That's pretty cool. There was a fan made poster shortly after TDK came out which hinted at The Riddler, it has news paper clippings. Could probably find it but...

[XL]

http://www.ramasscreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/riddlerpostercopycopy.jpg

[Jon Kano]

Each of the movies had multiple villains.

Granted, but since this is the last film, I would imagine they are going to focus more on development and closure, rather than trying something totally new and intricate.

[DrA]

I think most of the villians could be done realistically to some degree. There's definitely room for wiggle room, especially as absurd as that ending to Batman Begins was.

[Savio]

they should bring Scarecrow back and job him out again.

[El Fangel]

Post 42 looks rather awesome.

[dronepool]

I think Black Mask could work as a villain. The Joker/Scarecrow could have inspired themed crimes. The Black Mask can give one of his guys a suit with a flame thrower and that will be Firefly, he burns down the rivals places of business. Something like that could work, but they'd probably want to use more established villains.


http://i29.tinypic.com/1zdsy9j.jpg

[Savio]

Post 49 looks rather awesome.
:)

[Jeritron]

I definitely think The Riddler's threat could be exposing the secret of Batman's identity or the truth about what happened with Dent/Batman/Gordon.
Knowing Nolan, though, that may be just one aspect and not the entire conflict. It seems they always go above and beyond

[Savio]

I would like to see a relative of harvey dent hell bent on revenge

[Kalyx triaD]

Why?

[Skippord]

I think The Mad Hatter should be involved and caught in a To Catch A Predator esque sting operation

[Jeritron]

Will Charles Bronson be involved in Savior's take on Batman?

[Lock Jaw]

Kite Man or nothing.

[Savio]

Why?
and then spiderman comes.

[The Mackem]

Don't really know much about Batman past the films but at this point I wouldsay that nolan could take almost any character and make a credible potrayal and film.

[DaveBrawl]

Manbat

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Louie the Lilac

[RoXer]

Spider-Man

[Destro 2.0]

I would like to see Hush or Deadshot. I grow tired of the recycling the same villians. I wonder if Scarecrow will get jobbed out in the opening scene again.

[Skippord]

Calendar Man

[Lock Jaw]

I would like to see Hush or Deadshot. I grow tired of the recycling the same villians. I wonder if Scarecrow will get jobbed out in the opening scene again.

They used Deadshot in Batman: Gotham Knights. Not sure how "canon" that is to the Nolan-world.

[Dave Youell]

I can't see the likes of Bane being used.

Nolan has thus far, tried to keep things within the realms of possibility (to the extreme limits) with regards to individuals powers, or rather the lack of them.

Bane's sterioded super-human stuff, to me, doesn't fit with Nolan's universe, IMO.

[Jon Kano]

Could tinker with the whole steroid thing more and make it more credible. Don't think it would be worth it though.

Penguin could be done, just sell him off as a disfigured psycho who looks like a penguin.

[Kalyx triaD]

I can't see the likes of Bane being used.

Nolan has thus far, tried to keep things within the realms of possibility (to the extreme limits) with regards to individuals powers, or rather the lack of them.

Bane's sterioded super-human stuff, to me, doesn't fit with Nolan's universe, IMO.

You realize Bane is a criminal mastermind, known for "Breaking the Bat"? His venom is incidental to his character (supported by the fact that they eliminated that character detail years ago).

[Skippord]

Black Mask would be pretty sweet

[Dave Youell]

You realize Bane is a criminal mastermind, known for "Breaking the Bat"? His venom is incidental to his character (supported by the fact that they eliminated that character detail years ago).

Yeah, I know, but it's more the super-human aspects to his character that I don't think would work.

Much like I don't see Posion Ivy ever being in a Nolan Batman film.

[Kalyx triaD]

Ras made it in and he's a 600yo ecoterrorist. Scarecrow? Bane and Ivy could easily make for Nolan villains. Supernatural elements get cut or adjusted for reality.

[RoXer]

Superman

[El Fangel]

Mr. Freeze

[RoXer]

The Silver Surfer

[El Fangel]

Galactus

[Johnny McNasty]

Tag team of Red Skull and Black Mask with Catwoman as their manager.

[Cooler Tom Schuler]

The Riddler is my favorite character of all time. I'm not sure how I feel about Gordon-Levitt playing the role, but he certainly has a good look for it.

[Droford]

I hope theres no Penguin/Penguins with rockets army. Anything but that please.

[Heyman]

They should stick to the script. After The Joker, Penguin and Catwoman are next in line. I think the villians for the next Batman movie should be Penguin and Catwoman.

The problem with having Riddler as the next villain is that his character is too similar to The Joker's.

Give 'Penguin' an entirely different look and attitude in the next movie. Forget about the fat wad of shit that walks like a Penguin and has an Umbrella. Make him a suave and sophisticated Criminal mind that is secretly a bad guy. Have him 'work his way up the ranks' for the Gothan city council, and have him lead the way in trying to capture Batman "a.k.a. The Dark Knight....a.k.a. Gotham's #1 enemy."

[Fignuts]

What script, where?

[Skippord]

god I hate The Penguin

[Jeritron]

The best suggestion I had ever hear for a Nolan-esque Penguin would be a pudgy arms dealer who gets the nickname Penguin

I still don't think we'll see it, nor do I really even want to. I think Riddler and Catwoman are the way to go, but I also wouldn't rule out Nolan going in a suprising direction.
Establishing Hush as a major villain would be interesting. I think less known villains are often written off as not being established, but every villain that's over with the mainstream has to get there somehow. Starring in a movie does that.

I doubt very many non-comic reading people had a clue who Two Face, Posion Ivy and Mr. Freeze were before the Schumacher movies, even if they sucked.
Same goes for a lot of the villains popularized by the animated series, like Riddler, Catwoman and maybe even Joker and Penguin to a degree. They weren't always cultural figures.

Really I have total faith in Nolan to do what he thinks is best for the story. I really wouldn't doubt it until I saw it for myself, given his track record and grip on the material thus far.

[El Fangel]

Yeah, he has been spot on with casting and filming. I really hope they dont shit the bed.

I knew who Two-Face and Ivy were but never heard of Mr. Freeze before the movie.

Definitely would love if they continued with the movies past the third as I really do enjoy them.

[DaBrasko]

I think Penguin could work if they portray him as a ruthless gangster trying to take control of the Gotham underworld all the while looking like a legit businessman like in the trade paper back "As the Crow Flies"

[Savio]

Bring Back Arnold as Mr. Freeze

[XCaliber]

According to IGN three actors from Inception are being considered for the role of Riddler and of those I wouldn't mind seeing Tom Hardy do it and I just can't see Leo playing him at all Despite how great an actor JGL he couldn't pull off the likes of Cobra Commander so I can see him doing much bettter in this role. Heck I wouldn't be suprised if Marie Cotillard was being considered for Catwoman she certainly has the right eyes for the part.

[Jon Kano]

Holy shit......Ellen Page was in Inception.....Ellen Page was Kitty Pryde.....Kitty....Kitten....Kitten cat.....Catwoman!

[Kalyx triaD]

Rather she be Robin.

[DaBrasko]

Holy shit......Ellen Page was in Inception.....Ellen Page was Kitty Pryde.....Kitty....Kitten....Kitten cat.....Catwoman!

No... just ....no.

[Jeritron]

I was reading an interview with Nolan where he talked about being excited for this film being an ending to their Batman story.
As he said, these things continue in the comics but in movies they tell a finite story. That means they're looking to deliberately wrap up their Batman mythology.

This got me thinking, they probably aren't going to go the typical comic book route that even the older films took, where no matter what happens, Batman is left ready for his next adventure.

Is it possible that this movie won't do the whole vindication and establishing of Batman as Gotham's hero thing?
Could Batman "end"? Could we see his identity be revealed or him retire? Could Batman die?

Dunno. Nolan always seems to go all out with these, and isn't afraid to smash expectations and take risks. I'm wondering what bets are off for this movie and where it's going to go storywise.

[Jeritron]

I would imagine some official announcements on a title and the villain(s) would be coming very soon.

Seems due now that Nolan is done with Inception's release and filming is slated for the spring.

[Kalyx triaD]

Maybe Bruce gives it up as a punk kid named Tim gets inspired.

[Jeritron]

No

[Jon Kano]

No... just ....no.

Hey..........shut up.

[Kalyx triaD]

Dick?

[Jeritron]

Dick?

Make a request like that in casual where it belongs

[Blitz]

http://www.deadline.com/2010/10/tom-hardy-reunited-with-inception-helmer-chris-nolan-on-batman/

Tom Hardy apparently cast in a lead role.

[CSL]

Outstanding. Fucking love Tom Hardy. He does entertaining psycho very well, check out Bronson.

[Blitz]

Everyone seems to be thinking he'll be the Riddler, but I feel like he'd be a little too buff and intimidating for that. Still would like Joseph Gordon Levitt for the Riddler. For any role actually.

[Jon Kano]

Bane?

[Blitz]

Not buff enough. And also not Latino.

[RoXer]

Catwoman?

[Blitz]

Must be.

[CSL]

Are there any ridiculously sexy English people in the history of Batman characters?

[DaveBrawl]

Alfred

[Jon Kano]

CSL did you just refer to Tom Hardy as sexy?

[CSL]

Nah brah. I referred to him as ridiculously sexy.

[Jon Kano]

Oh right, you're one of these people who isn't gay, but acts like they are.

[CSL]

Excellent psycho-analysis. Your talents are wasted here.

[Jon Kano]

I didn't say they weren't.


Just the remarks about other guys being sexy, you don't need a psychoanalyst, you need shooting in the fucking face.

[XL]

Hey, it takes a guy who is very secure in his sexuality to commend another guy on his looks. And Tom Hardy is a pretty fucking decent looking fella.

[Jeritron]

Too bad he will covered up by a Black Mask of sorts

[CSL]

I didn't say they weren't.


Just the remarks about other guys being sexy, you don't need a psychoanalyst, you need shooting in the fucking face.

lol you tragic muppet. Have fun with that.

[Jon Kano]

I'll admit/comment/discuss/debate if someone flat out asks me my opinion on if a guy looks 'attractive', but all this 'he is hella sexy' stuff just reeks of faggotry. Have fun with that, although I bet you have enough as it is.

[Jeritron]

Are you going to post about Batman or get uncomfortable about guys being sexy? Make a choice or I'll just start deleting

[Jon Kano]

Go ahead and delete all the 'he is sexy' shit then. I love reading/discussing Batman, and dislike reading guys posting how they find other guys sexy, just ruins the flow.

[Jeritron]

Sounds like you are gay

[CSL]

You do realize I don't actually want to chew on his scrotum? And I would call anyone I'm a big fan of 'ridiculously sexy' or some variant, even if they looked like you Jon Kano? The fact Tom Hardy is a good looking man only serves to make my superlatives vaguely true in this case.

And hella? I'm not SammyG you bastard. I'd rather you shot me in the face than insinuate that.

And Batman is cool. Back on topic quick replying people.

[Jeritron]

Don't talk about guys being good looking because that makes me uncomfortable about myself

[Fignuts]

Come on Kano, give us a kiss.

[Jeritron]

I hope they make Tom Hardy Robin and put nipples on the suit

[Jon Kano]

I know you don't CSL, I know.

I'm just not a fan of reading a thread about a movie I'm interested in, then seeing 'he is so sexy' kinda thing, esp from someone who I know is a guy. TPWW is a man's world, its like my virtual pub. I guess I'm too testosteronie when it also comes to faggot type 'funny' posts like that. But if you wanna be 'that guy', then by all means discuss your hard on for Tom Hardy, or make a list of the top 10 sexy men to star in the Batman franchise (film).

[Blitz]

Christ Jon. Don't make me dust off the Enhanced Kano Scale.

[Jon Kano]

I'm in the mood

[RoXer]

I know you don't CSL, I know.

I'm just not a fan of reading a thread about a movie I'm interested in, then seeing 'he is so sexy' kinda thing, esp from someone who I know is a guy. TPWW is a man's world, its like my virtual pub. I guess I'm too testosteronie when it also comes to faggot type 'funny' posts like that. But if you wanna be 'that guy', then by all means discuss your hard on for Tom Hardy, or make a list of the top 10 sexy men to star in the Batman franchise (film).

What are your thoughts on this?:

http://www.gayslacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/gay-porn-party.jpg

[Jon Kano]

Thankfully alls I'm getting is a blue and white '?', I think it's the red x version for the mac. Judging by the pic url it doesn't sound like my cup of tea.

[XL]

I know you don't CSL, I know.

I'm just not a fan of reading a thread about a movie I'm interested in, then seeing 'he is so sexy' kinda thing, esp from someone who I know is a guy. TPWW is a man's world, its like my virtual pub. I guess I'm too testosteronie when it also comes to faggot type 'funny' posts like that. But if you wanna be 'that guy', then by all means discuss your hard on for Tom Hardy, or make a list of the top 10 sexy men to star in the Batman franchise (film).
So, we've basically established that you're a homophobe.

I think our work here is done. Close the forums.

[Jon Kano]

I'm not at all. At present time I have 4 guys on my friends list who are gay and I consider great people/friends. It isn't an issue when it comes to people.

Just don't like guys acting queer in an attempt to be 'cool' or 'funny'. It just annoys me, and there is nothing wrong with airing something about myself on an Internet forum. You don't have to get all defensive or wage a massive debate when you encounter someone who doesn't match your ideal politically correct online utopia.

[thedamndest]

Might delete all posts that are about whether it is okay to think males are handsome. Or might edit all Batman-related posts to continue that discussion. Haven't decided yet.

[RoXer]

thedamndest, please fix my picture so it shows up. No spoiler tag either plz. thx

[Jon Kano]

Just get rid of all the shit after what I said then, I only want Batman shit also, I don't care. Just don't ask why if I ever flame CSL for being a bit of a mary. But also maybe get rid of the sexy Tom Hardy comment, just on principle?

[thedamndest]

No. Tom Hardy is a dashing fellow.

[RoXer]

Or send this to the archives

[Jon Kano]

But for the record, it should and prob will be archived as soon as Batman 3 is released and we wank all over that shit. See being horny or sexual about a film is ok.

[Sixx]

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/image.php?file=downloads/downloads/theatre/themanofmode_1/images/group2/m10.jpg&width=369

For you, Jon Kano.

LOOK AT HIS CHEST

[thedamndest]

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[thedamndest]

That was at the thought of wanking over a film.

[Savio]

Bring back Arnold as Freeze!

[Jon Kano]

You rather wank over Tom Hardy?

[Sixx]

They should cast all cheesy actors from the 80s, like Michael Dudikoff.

I'd watch it.

[thedamndest]

I don't think I would wank. But I imagine we would hang out and have a nice chat about his upcoming projects and life being handsome.

[Jon Kano]

Bring back Arnold as Freeze!

Yinno in his old, frail stages he could make a good Freeze. Like a totally human, megalomaniac, serious type maybe?

Doubt Freeze will make the list, but anything is possible with Mr. Nolan.

[Jeritron]

Third Batman to be Titled The Dark Knight Rises
Source: Hero Complex October 27, 2010


In an interview with Hero Complex, Christopher Nolan revealed that the title for his third Batman movie will be The Dark Knight Rises. He added that the villain "won't be the Riddler."

"We'll use many of the same characters as we have all along, and we'll be introducing some new ones," Nolan said cryptically. He also said that the studio has agreed with him not to shoot the film in 3D.

The Dark Knight Rises is scheduled for a July 20, 2012 release.

Some great,interesting news

[Jeritron]

Kinda want to edit the thread title. You know I'm way into a franchise when the title announcement gets me amped

[Jon Kano]

Ugh, quite a lackluster title I feel.

[Jeritron]

Seems to be along the lines of Batman Begins. If the titles are meant to chart the progress of Batman in the story, I think it's pretty good.

You have to call it something with Batman or one of his aliases. What are they going to call it, The Caped Crusader? Most of the Batman titles have been done too, and after calling the second The Dark Knight it's hard to go back to "Batman ___" in the title.

So it sort of had to be some variation on The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight Returns was a big rumor, even though it's the name of a famous graphic novel. It wouldn't be very fitting either since this movie is intended to be the final installment. "Returns" doesn't really fit an ending.

So I sort of dig it.
Batman Begins - Batman starts his crusade.
The Dark Knight - Batman becomes the dark hero of the city and an outcast.
The Dark Knight Rises - Batman takes his mantle? Fin.

[Jon Kano]

The Dark Knight Rises implies it's NOT the final chapter to me. There seems to be a need for a fall after the rise. Or it implies he finally accepts his destiny, which again, suggests its just the beginning of a story to tell, which we know is coming to an end.

I thought they would include a title that suggested an final ending, or connoted some kind of realisation or statement, which I supposed 'Rises' can also do - I dunno, just doesn't seem like the best choice.

The Darkest Knight
Batman Rises
The Dawn (follows the Darkest/Dark Knight)
The Batman
Batters McBattersby

...These are just a few titles I thought of in like 15 seconds, and either one would do fine.

[Fignuts]

Batman and the Case of the Flying Squirrel Man

[Jeritron]

How would Batman Rises be a good title, but The Dark Knight Rises isn't?

[Jeritron]

The Dark Knight Rises implies it's NOT the final chapter to me. There seems to be a need for a fall after the rise. Or it implies he finally accepts his destiny, which again, suggests its just the beginning of a story to tell, which we know is coming to an end.
.

That can easily be the end of the story. The Dark Knight was the fall. He's been blamed and being hunted for things he didn't do.
The rise implies him gaining vindication and rising to his mantle as the hero we know. That doesn't really mean a new beginning. In a way, yes. All stories have an aftermath. But a story can end there. Easily. In fact it makes the most sense that the story ends there, unless he retires or dies. Either way he can and will rise from where he was at the close of TDK.

[Sepholio]

Seems like a decent title to me, but could have been tweaked a little more.

Maybe something like 'Dark Knight Rising' or something.

I dunno. Still looking forward to it. Wonder who the villain will be now though, because if this is truly the end it has to be good and I swear to god they better not recast joker or something.

[weather vane]

no Riddler? gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

[Jon Kano]

That can easily be the end of the story. The Dark Knight was the fall. He's been blamed and being hunted for things he didn't do.
The rise implies him gaining vindication and rising to his mantle as the hero we know. That doesn't really mean a new beginning. In a way, yes. But a story can end there. Easily. In fact it makes the most sense that the story ends there, unless he retires or dies. Either way he can and will rise from where he was at the close of TDK.

I did say in the latter part of my last reply that the title does indeed work for that reason, but it can also suggest there is more to come in a way.

So yes, it works, it makes sense, but is it a good title? I still don't think so.

How would Batman Rises be a good title, but The Dark Knight Rises isn't?

Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Batman Rises

...It just looks and sounds more pleasing with the use of 'Batman' being in the first and final title of their respective films. That's my opinion.



Other quick title ideas:

Dark Nights End (play on words/meaning of Knight/Night to suggest 'the bad days' are coming to an end - the Knight's rise through the Night)

Dawn of The Dark/Dawn of The Dark Knight

The Caped Crusader is actually a good one also.

[Jon Kano]

I dunno. Still looking forward to it. Wonder who the villain will be now though, because if this is truly the end it has to be good and I swear to god they better not recast joker or something.

Nolan confirmed sometime ago he wouldn't.

[Jeritron]

True. I dig it. I suppose it's not as strong of a title as just The Dark Knight was, or Batman, but those are obviously off the table.

I'm glad it included a variation of "The Dark Knight" again. I like it way better than any other possibilities. Batman Rises is also good, but I'm more in favor of having TDK in there. I see how Batman on both ends of the trilogy balances the OCD in us, but really once they've changed Batman's moniker to TDK in the titles, they should stick with it.

In my opinion, a lot of those other titles are too far off (don't include Batman or TDK in them), pretentious, or silly (The Darkest Knight).

I feel like they've really done the best they can. The only other strong choice was probably The Dark Knight Returns, but it's got a few strikes against it as well.

[Lock Jaw]

"Shadow of the Bat" could have been a good one.

But really, I don't care about the title at all. I'm more pumped for the content.

[Jon Kano]

So, who do we think Nolan will choose as the villain/s, and which could work and how?

Because aside from baddies in the films and cartoon, I don't know any others.

[VSG]

Thank god for them opting to not have this in 3D. Some franchises are too classic to have the extremely risky 3D gimmick.

[Jeritron]

So, who do we think Nolan will choose as the villain/s, and which could work and how?

Because aside from baddies in the films and cartoon, I don't know any others.

I don't know. His comments are curious. I thought for sure Riddler would be in it, but unless he's lying then that's out.
I figured there weren't many choices that fit his style.

Black Mask is a strong possibility. I hoped he would be in it anyways, but I didn't think he'd be the main villain and more of a mob boss supporting character. I figured top duties would go to someone else.
Dunno who that could be now. Penguin?

Catwoman or just Selina Kyle is still a strong possibility for Batman's love interest. Or Talia Al Ghul.

It's interesting how he mentions characters returning. More than likely that just means Gordon, Fox, etc.
But I'm beginning to wonder if he'd toy with the idea of bringing Ras Al Ghul, or even Two Face back.

I was 99.9% certain Two Face wouldn't be back, and still sort of stand by that he should stay dead. I figured his story was served and Nolan intended to kill him.
Then again, if he goes back on it, I will reserve any judgement because he is brilliant and it will probably prove me wrong.

Then there's the possibility of smaller characters getting supporting roles. Deadshot as a mob assassin, etc.

Or maybe they'll throw everyone for a loop and use a couple supporting villains but create an entirely new main villain?

[Lock Jaw]

They'll swerve everyone and use Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor.

[VSG]

Clayface?

[dronepool]

The title is fine.

[Jon Kano]

I thought way back when that Two Face would be back, at least in a minor villain-back-to-hero role.

Maybe Scarecrow again? lol

[dronepool]

The Mad Hatter or Hush would be awesome.

[weather vane]

I hope it's Penguin if not Riddler

[Blitz]

Go ahead and edit the title Jeri, I would but it won't let me anymore.

Very curious as to who it'll be if not Riddler.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Scarecrow will probably be about in a cameo type of way at least.

I will mark if two face is back though. Loved that performance in TDK.

[Savio]

They need to put the Scarecrow in every movie.

[Jon Kano]

What about a character from other DC hero series?

[Loose Cannon]

Bane the dumb clutz from Batman Forever

[Jon Kano]

Bane the dumb clutz from Batman Forever

Batman & Robin

[McLegend]

They'll swerve everyone and use Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor.

Actually I heard they got Michael Rosenbaum to play Lex Luthor, and that's why he isn't doing Smallville.

[VSG]

Remember the source?

[McLegend]

I made it up.

[Splaya]

Interesting thought. He nixes the Riddler who was long rumored. Why not put Harley Quinn in

[stultiloquy]

Interesting thought. He nixes the Riddler who was long rumored. Why not put Harley Quinn in

I always thought Brittney Murphy would make a perfect Harley Quinn....too bad she's dead now.

[Jeritron]

Harley Quinn would have been a great character to bring in, but without Joker I don't really think she really has a role.
She would have been perfect to spring Joker from the joint, and stay around as his right hand woman. I would have liked to see the Nolan-version of her. She'd probably have been the Nancy to Joker's Sid.

[Swiss Ultimate]

New joker needs to be:

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI5NTY0NTc1NV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNzA3NDYyMQ@@._V1._SY314_CR5,0,214,314_.jpg
Craig Bierko from Cinderella Man

[Jeritron]

I'm completely baffled by why some people want to see Joker recast

[Jeritron]

Unless it's 15+ years down the line and Nolan and Bale reunite to do a fourth Dark Knight Returns-esque film where everyone's older and the story is revisited. Even still I think it would be very iffy.

The series will probably have been rebooted by then though. Obviously a new actor playing Joker is fine in a new series.

[El Fangel]

After looking over the list here is what I have.

Catwoman - Completely possible
Clayface - Somewhat possible if you use Preston Payne
Deadshot - Would be kinda fun
Hush - Think it would be him, but is he mainstream known enough?
Penguin - Would be mad creepy in Nolans world, have him as a deformed looking crime boss
Scarecrow - Maybe have him play the big role again?

[El Fangel]

Unless it's 15+ years down the line and Nolan and Bale reunite to do a fourth Dark Knight Returns-esque film where everyone's older and the story is revisited. Even still I think it would be very iffy.

The series will probably have been rebooted by then though. Obviously a new actor playing Joker is fine in a new series.

That I think would be acceptable by some standards, while many seem to think only Ledger should be Joker in Nolans universe and be left at that.

I think I may have discussed with you (or someone) that teh only person I think could do The Joker to the extent that Ledger did is Johnny Depp (yeah, might be cliche but hear me out)


Johnny Depp has a penant for engulfing himself in his roles and not looking like an actor playing a part, but rather the character himself.

Jack Sparrow, Edward Scissorhands, Raoul Duke, etc.

Having said taht, I still wouldnt like the Joker recast to begin with.

[Jeritron]

Playing quirky characters in makeup doesn't mean he's right for the role of The Joker though.
I think people just say that because Johhny Depp looks like Nolan's Joker a bit, and everyone our age has a hard on for him.

The only thing I hate more than suggestion of recasting The Joker, is suggestion of recasting Johnny Depp as The Joker, to be frank.

[Jeritron]

After looking over the list here is what I have.

Catwoman - Completely possible
Clayface - Somewhat possible if you use Preston Payne
Deadshot - Would be kinda fun
Hush - Think it would be him, but is he mainstream known enough?
Penguin - Would be mad creepy in Nolans world, have him as a deformed looking crime boss
Scarecrow - Maybe have him play the big role again?

I don't think Clayface would work at all. Scarecrow can, and probably will be back in a small role, but after hanging around as a minor threat in 2 films, I don't think the audience wants to see him be the focus. Bringing villains back can happen but I think there needs to be new blood at the heart of the threat.

Hush would easily work in Nolan's world. It would be great really, and although the average moviegoer has no clue who he is, he would get over very quickly.
The only problem is Hush's character is out for Batman because of something in his past. It's a revenge story dating back to childhood, and he hasn't been established at all.
It could be accomplished through flashbacks or creative screenwriting, but that would likely kill any potential suprise. They only have one movie to work with.

Then again, I thought Hush's identity was obvious by the first few pages of the book, and it didn't kill the reveal for me.
It would likely make the movie into a mystery picture, which would show off some more of Bats detective side and probably make for a great flick, but I'm not sure that's the story they're looking for in the 3rd and final movie. Especially after the scale and style of the story in TDK.

[Jeritron]

Damn, Tom Hardy could definitely play Hush now that I think of it. I could also see him as Black Mask, Bane and Riddler though.

[El Fangel]

Playing quirky characters in makeup doesn't mean he's right for the role of The Joker though.


So what exactly was The Joker besides a quirky character in makeup?

Just kidding by the way. Honestly I dont have so much a hard on for the guy as I do for how well he plays his character in the role he has been given.

He seems genuinely dedicated to getting it right.

[Jeritron]

It's not that I don't think other actors would be dedicated to getting it right. I'm sure they'd be thrilled to land the role and act their hearts out. I just don't think there is such thing as getting it right. That role belonged to Ledger and I think when he was buried it was buried with him. Until the next series obviously.

[VSG]

Give me a hot Poison Ivy with Bane as her sidekick, and I will watch it nonetheless.

[El Fangel]

It's not that I don't think other actors would be dedicated to getting it right. I'm sure they'd be thrilled to land the role and act their hearts out. I just don't think there is such thing as getting it right. That role belonged to Ledger and I think when he was buried it was buried with him. Until the next series obviously.

Ill agree.

[Jeritron]

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Could-Tom-Hardy-Play-Det-Harvey-Bullock-In-The-Dark-Knight-Rises-21438.html

[Joey Slugs]

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Could-Tom-Hardy-Play-Det-Harvey-Bullock-In-The-Dark-Knight-Rises-21438.html

That would be PERFECT.

[Lock Jaw]

I have no problems with recasting The Joker.

IF The Joker doesn't play a large role. If it is just for like, one or two scenes... I say go for it.

Also... perhaps we can see Lady Shiva, in some sort of connection to Ra's Al Ghul?

[Savio]

This NO RIDDLER is a sham....here is the next Riddler:


http://www.lesko.com/images/rev2/meet-matthew.jpg

[Splaya]

I agree with the Crooked cop thing. Have Scarecrow have a role, throw in Harley Quinn and I will be happy

[stultiloquy]

While I would love to see Clayface on the big screen, I don't think we'll ever see him in Nolan's Gotham - he's just a bit too sci-fi to fit in with this Batman franchise.

[VSG]

Oh shit. I had forgotten that the cops were looking for Batman at the end of The Dark Knight. Harvey Bullock sounds awesome and could hire some tier 2 bad guys to help him too.

[Fox]

If Harvey Bullock is seriously the main antagonist of DKR I will be sincerely disappointed. Batman has one of the greatest rogue's galleries of all time and I know they can do better than just Bullock. I think Tom Hardy would play the role beautifully, but I don't want him as the main opponent of Batman's - more as a consistent nuisance throughout the film.

[Nervous Ferret]

god i hate batman

[XL]

That's where someone like Penguin works best though, as a corrupt public figure. The enemy of my enemy is my friend type deal. So whilst Penguin is bad he's not "as bad as Batman".

[Loose Cannon]

If Harvey Bullock is seriously the main antagonist of DKR I will be sincerely disappointed. Batman has one of the greatest rogue's galleries of all time and I know they can do better than just Bullock. I think Tom Hardy would play the role beautifully, but I don't want him as the main opponent of Batman's - more as a consistent nuisance throughout the film.

I think it fits great. I don't think he'll be the one and only villian in the movie. You need someone like him and then one of the batman villians doing his thing in the film. pretty sure you'll see one or two other main villians in the film.

I like it.

[Lock Jaw]

According to Deadline News, The Dark Knight Rises director Christopher Nolan is on the prowl (pardon the pun) for two actresses to play a villain and a love interest opposite Christian Bale, aka Bruce Wayne for the next installment of his Batman franchise.

The actresses being mentioned are Rachel Weisz, Naomi Watts, Blake Lively, Natalie Portman, Anne Hathaway and Keira Knightley.

Catwoman and Talia Al Ghul, maybe?

[McLegend]

Hasn't Rachel Weisz always been rumored to play Talia? That rumor has been around for years.

[Kalyx triaD]

Rachel Weisz for Catwoman PLEASE.

[Kalyx triaD]

Or Keira Knightley as Talia, but that would mean the return of the mountain ninjas/possibly semi-immortal ecoterrorist plot that TDK swayed very far from in terms of tone.

[Lock Jaw]

Blake Lively is already gonna be in Green Lantern. I know DC doesn't have shared movie-verse, but that would still be weird.

[Kalyx triaD]

She has to tone up for a slutty Pink Lantern uniform down the line.

[Kris P Lettus]

Alot of this was supposed to be shot in NOLA but sadly, it is not.. I talked to Wally Pfister, the Director of Photography when I worked with him last week..

:namedropper:

[DaveBrawl]

Anne Hathaway would be awesome

[XL]

Kiera Knightley wouldn't be awesome.

[Confused]

Alot of this was supposed to be shot in NOLA but sadly, it is not.. I talked to Wally Pfister, the Director of Photography when I worked with him last week..

:namedropper:

I'd read somewhere they were shooting some interior scenes in New Orleans.

[Reavant]

they are doing their shooting in new orleans... theyre not shooting in chicago at all which kindof sucks for us chicagoans

[Sixx]

they are doing their shooting in new orleans... theyre not shooting in chicago at all which kindof sucks for us chicagoans

I've read they are.

[Jeritron]

The story I heard was the studio stuff is all in NO, and the exterior shots will be in Chicago, since it's obviously been established as the basis of Gotham in Begins and TDK.

[Lock Jaw]

I hope they bring back some of the more stylized looking Gotham from Batman Begins.

[Jeritron]

Yea def. I think they intentionally made Gotham look different (nicer) in TDK because Batman was succeeding in cleaning it up, and they were dealing with a different part of town (police, mayor, etc).
I'd like to see the Narrows again, and some new places.

[Kalyx triaD]

'Tokyo' Gotham is surely replaced by 'Chi-Town' Gotham. Though I do miss 'Begins Gotham, too.

[CSL]

Tom Hardy is reportedly playing Dr Hugo Strange in Christopher Nolan's 'The Dark Knight Rises'.

According to Total Film, the closing chapter in Nolan's hugely successful Batman trilogy will be based on the graphic novel 'Prey'.

The story revolves around a demented police psychiatrist named Dr Hugo Strange. In a bid to bring Batman out of hiding (which would tie in nicely with the closing scene in 'The Dark Knight') he hypnotises a police officer into becoming a vigilante.

The 'Inception' star is signed up for the movie, but it has been unclear which part he will play - following Nolan's reveal that The Riddler won't be in the movie.
That was the presumed villain, but it now looks like Hardy will play a relatively minor character in the Batman universe instead.

[Fignuts]

hmmmm bit disappointed in that, but I'm sure it will be really good, regardless.

[The Destroyer]

If it is Strange, I can't imagine we'll be seeing anyone doped up on his monster serum.

Prey would certainly fit the setup from the end of The Dark Knight though since it involves a police task force trying to hunt down Batman with Strange's help.

[Jeritron]

Will Hugo Strange or this police task force be the only antagonist though? I have doubts that a Nolan Batman movie will be that simple.
You have to wonder if there'll be another big baddie too. The mob will still be there, and there's also the female lead in the air.
I'd say Catwoman and Black Mask are still additional possibilites, among others.

I have to admit I'd be a little disappointed if Hugo Strange was the only villain, coming off the heels of a movie that featured Joker and Two-Face.
But really I just hope it's a great movie.

[dronepool]

Dr Hugo Strange is perfect for Nolan.

[Kris P Lettus]

I'd read somewhere they were shooting some interior scenes in New Orleans.

They were gonna come do all the stage work here but the studio starting pressuring Nolan to shoot more of it here due to our tax incentive, he got mad and said they were gonna shoot all of it in Chicago..

I hope they come here as I know the DP and would prolly work on it..

[Loose Cannon]

Will Hugo Strange or this police task force be the only antagonist though? I have doubts that a Nolan Batman movie will be that simple.
You have to wonder if there'll be another big baddie too. The mob will still be there, and there's also the female lead in the air.
I'd say Catwoman and Black Mask are still additional possibilites, among others.

I have to admit I'd be a little disappointed if Hugo Strange was the only villain, coming off the heels of a movie that featured Joker and Two-Face.
But really I just hope it's a great movie.

Yea, I bet there will be another villan besides him. I thought Strange was a Marvel character or maybe I am thinking of someone else

[VSG]

I hope so, LC, I sure hope so.

[The Destroyer]

You're thinking of Doctor Strange.

Hugo Strange is a Professor. Hence the probable confusion.

[Loose Cannon]

ah ok. Just read this on Wiki

"Dr. Hugo Strange is an insane psychologist who uses his mastery of chemistry to create a serum that turns his victims into mindless brutes who obey his every command. It has also been implied that the idea for the Scarecrow's "fear-gas" came from Dr. Hugo Strange"

I do agree with using him if they can connect him with Scarecrow.


But I do hope they throw in another villan. we've seen multiple storylines in these movies, so I am sure it will happen.

[Blitz]

Here's an interesting tidbit from Ain't It Cool News (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/47613). Heath Ledger's Joker may have a cameo in DKR.

Hey folks, Harry here with a story that came out of this New Zealand website and the news isn't exactly new, I feel... as I do remember back during the hot & heavy discussion about THE DARK KNIGHT, that there was discussion of editing room floor footage possibly being used in a sequel... But here there seems to be quite a bit of discussion about it all. I'd say it is absolutely worth doing if the footage works. Otherwise, let his Oscar winning performance be what it is, an exclamation point to a brilliant, but too short career. What do you folks think?

[Confused]

Christopher Nolan doesn't really strike me as the kind of film-maker who would stoop to doing this.

I don't really think it serves The Dark Knight Rises in any way and surely The Dark Knight was tribute enough to Heath Ledger.

Anyway, its probably bullshit anyway seeing as it comes from that arsehole Harry Knowles.

[Savio]

Unless its cut film from him in the jail cell or in the back of a police car then I don't want to see it.

No reason to show footage of him in the streets.

[Jeritron]

Yea, if they could pull it off without it looking piss poor. I dunno. What are the chances they have good footage of him saying stuff relating to what Batman would have to see him for?
They could easily use interrogation room footage and shoot Batman seperately, and even change the walls and lighting.
But how it would look, and what they'd be able to get from him would be the questions.

As always with this sequel Joker talk, I say probably leave it as is.
It'd be nice to see a test of what they could do though. Apparently that technology is better than we may think. I read something about using this process to create new scenes for Grand Moff Tarkin in Episode 3 was possible, but they didn't go with it.

[dronepool]

With the right master footage, recordings and proper lighting a cool scene with the Joker can be done in jail or something.

[Blitz]

Nolan shot down the rumour. Ain't happening.

[Fox]

Yea, if they could pull it off without it looking piss poor. I dunno. What are the chances they have good footage of him saying stuff relating to what Batman would have to see him for?
They could easily use interrogation room footage and shoot Batman seperately, and even change the walls and lighting.
But how it would look, and what they'd be able to get from him would be the questions.

As always with this sequel Joker talk, I say probably leave it as is.
It'd be nice to see a test of what they could do though. Apparently that technology is better than we may think. I read something about using this process to create new scenes for Grand Moff Tarkin in Episode 3 was possible, but they didn't go with it.

They used similar technology in Superman Returns to bring some of Marlon Brando's unused footage from the original Superman film into the new movie, patched together to create a new scene. I think that this could work for the Joker, though I'm not one who is against the recasting of the role.

[Joe Kerr]

for awhile it was rumoured Johny depp would be riddler, then some stupid rumour of Eddie Murphy as riddler. That would be horrible and no not because hes black.

[Fox]

for awhile it was rumoured Johny depp would be riddler, then some stupid rumour of Eddie Murphy as riddler. That would be horrible and no not because hes black.

Because he's loud?

[YOUR Hero]

ah ok. Just read this on Wiki

"Dr. Hugo Strange is an insane psychologist who uses his mastery of chemistry to create a serum that turns his victims into mindless brutes who obey his every command. It has also been implied that the idea for the Scarecrow's "fear-gas" came from Dr. Hugo Strange"

I do agree with using him if they can connect him with Scarecrow.


But I do hope they throw in another villan. we've seen multiple storylines in these movies, so I am sure it will happen.

This makes great sense. Shows continuity and moves it in a new layer and direction.

[Blitz]

Kalyx already posted it in the DC news thread, but Tom Hardy is Bane and Anne Hathway is Selina Kyle (http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/01/19/batman-hathaway-catwoman-hardy-bane-dark-knight-rises/). As excited as I am for this movie, it just increased a hundredfold. Selina is the icing on the cake, but a properly done Bane has been my dream since I read Knightfall.

And I could give a fuck that he's supposed to be Latin.

[The Destroyer]

They'll just smear him in fake tan and get him to put on a bad accent.

[McLegend]

I wanted Mr. Freeze, but I can live with Bane.

Quick thing about Christopher Nolan. In every one his movies the leading lady always is a brunette. Maybe the only exception is The Presteige, but I'm unsure of Scarlett Johansson's natural hair color.

Does anyone else besides me find that interesting?

[Kalyx triaD]

Not sure if hair color is intentional, Selina Kyle is usually brunette (blond for a while because of Tim Burton's version).

[Fignuts]

Bane makes sense with Hugo Strange being in it, since he's known for his monster serum, which in this version, I am going to assume is Venom.

I just hope it's not like the comics where it turns those infected into mindless lackeys, as that would take away everything that is great about Bane.

[Blitz]

Was Hugo Strange ever actually confirmed though? There was that rumour that they were following the storyline, and then everyone just assumed that Hardy would be playing him.

[Fignuts]

Oh, I thought he was.

[The Destroyer]

Nah, he was only ever a rumour.

[RoXer]

Soooooo....Batmans gunna die at the end?

[Fignuts]

Why would you think that?

[RoXer]

Not die but didn't Bane leave him a parapeligic in the comics? And there had to. Be a new Batman?

Maybe something like that happens in the movie?

[ClockShot]

Why would you think that?

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[Kalyx triaD]

I don't think they'll follow Nightfall to that degree, but I'm certain 'a breaking' of some sort will factor into the movie. You can't have Bane and not do something with that. It's like how in every appearance Doomsday made after his debut Superman would be like, "Oh damn, the dude that killed me" or even in another media Doomsday's treated as a force that could put down Superman. When Bane first appeared in Batman: TAS they teased the breaking hard (fuckers).

So while we may not see a Batman movie reboot featuring Jean Paul Valley's crazy-ass, Batman will be put through the ringer here. Me thinks.

[DaveBrawl]

Batman movie reboot featuring Jean Paul Valley's crazy-ass

I for one think this would be amazing.