what i dont like about this kane/edge angle

[MIZantine Empire]

ok obviously i know its all an act..but inevitably they are trying to portray this as a real kidnapping. that being said, i hate how every week paul is in new clean clothes, groomed, and well clean looking. i remember edge smashing chicken wings on his shirt, and putting maranara sauce in his hair (lol by the way) i cried a little because the chicken wings looked sexily delicious, but i digress. anyways if paul was really kidnapped, shouldnt he still have his chicken wing soaked shirt, screwed up, maranara-y hair, and a gnarly beard going? i sometimes get nit picky on these attention to detail things. whats your thoughts? if anything it should be at least fun convo

[Triple Naitch]

There hasn't been this much controversy surrounding buffalo wings since Joey Chestnut won last year's Wing Bowl.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Edge is a kind jailer. He provides Paul Bearer with clean clothes every week on Smackdown. What I want to know is why Kane or Smackdown hasn't called the police on something like this.

Kidnapping is a federal crime WWE! Get on the ball and try to get Kane back with his long lost father!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

There hasn't been this much controversy surrounding buffalo wings since Joey Chestnut won last year's Wing Bowl.

They weren't even boneless buffalo wings :n:

[Triple Naitch]

That's a whole 'nother controversy. Boneless buffalo wings aren't even technically wings. They are chicken breast cut into popcorn size.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Kidnapping someone while working with a touring company alongside your main antagonist defies the realm of possibility, but that's not my problem with the angle.

My problem is that Kane looks like a fucking MORON each and every week.

"Come get us, Kane! We're in the parking lot!"

"GRRRR!...hey, where are you guys?"

*Mannequin gets smashed*

"NOOOO! PAAAAUUUULLLLL!....oh wait, that's styrofoam."

"Yoo hoo! Kane! We're over here now! Bet you can't catch us!"

"YOU LITTLE RASCAL!!!!"

Fucking ridiculous. Kane was cunning enough to come up with his plan to destroy the Undertaker, but not smart enough to play Wile E. Coyote to Edge's Roadrunner.

[Anybody Thrilla]

At the end of the day, though...I could really go for some buffalo wings.

[VSG]

Ya, some mango habanero wings sound good. Think I will go grab some.

Oh ya, this angle sucks.

[Juan]

Glad to finally know MIZantine Empire's take.

[Triple Naitch]

Would love to know MIZantine Empire's take on the Justinian Code of Law and construction of the Hagia Sophia.

[Jura]

Justinian Roberts. Hagia Swoggle.

[CSL]

I thought Kane was great in his promo to start Smackdown last week. The rest of the angle is a bit daft I guess.

[Anybody Thrilla]

While we're nitpicking, I doubt Edge has the appropriate license class to be operating that huge flatbed truck.

[Triple Naitch]

How many wheelchairs have they wasted with this angle? I'm sure there are plenty of poor cripple people who could definitely use them.

[Cool King]

Kidnapping someone while working with a touring company alongside your main antagonist defies the realm of possibility, but that's not my problem with the angle.

My problem is that Kane looks like a fucking MORON each and every week.

"Come get us, Kane! We're in the parking lot!"

"GRRRR!...hey, where are you guys?"

*Mannequin gets smashed*

"NOOOO! PAAAAUUUULLLLL!....oh wait, that's styrofoam."

"Yoo hoo! Kane! We're over here now! Bet you can't catch us!"

"YOU LITTLE RASCAL!!!!"

Fucking ridiculous. Kane was cunning enough to come up with his plan to destroy the Undertaker, but not smart enough to play Wile E. Coyote to Edge's Roadrunner.

That's exactly what I was thinking while watching SmackDown tonight.

The whole angle reminds me of a Looney Tunes episode. Where does Edge get all these mannequins from? Are they ACME mannequins? How can Kane be so stupid to fall for the same prank three times, yet know how to defeat The Undertaker? (Similar to what you said)

Also, I'm in a nitpicking mood so if Paul Bearer is alone backstage and tied to a chair with his mouth taped, wouldn't someone help him? It's the backstage area of an arena that has a "sold out" show going on, there's no way it would be empty.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Really, you would think that rescuing Paul Bearer would be a good way to get into Kane's good graces...which seems like a place you would want to be. Is everybody backstage THAT afraid of Edge?

[Aguakate]

Kidnapping someone while working with a touring company alongside your main antagonist defies the realm of possibility, but that's not my problem with the angle.

My problem is that Kane looks like a fucking MORON each and every week.

"Come get us, Kane! We're in the parking lot!"

"GRRRR!...hey, where are you guys?"

*Mannequin gets smashed*

"NOOOO! PAAAAUUUULLLLL!....oh wait, that's styrofoam."

"Yoo hoo! Kane! We're over here now! Bet you can't catch us!"

"YOU LITTLE RASCAL!!!!"

Fucking ridiculous. Kane was cunning enough to come up with his plan to destroy the Undertaker, but not smart enough to play Wile E. Coyote to Edge's Roadrunner.


Remember when Kane came to the WWE (WWF), and was a complete MONSTER who beat the Undertaker up, put him in a casket and set him on fire, etc?

...Well...what you put up, about how they're making him look? That's what's become of him.

[Lock Jaw]

I just picture Edge getting onto on airplane with a bound and gagged Paul Bearer, just waving off security by saying "It's ok! I'm a pro wrestler!"


Then I laugh.

[Aguakate]

I just picture Edge getting onto on airplane with a bound and gagged Paul Bearer, just waving off security by saying "It's ok! I'm a pro wrestler!"


Then I laugh.

What's crazy is that throughout this whole angle, Paul Bearer hasn't stopped tweeting.

[ooTin]

I just wanna know when does Edge find the time to make all of those mannequins.... and further more, when did her learn how to stitch and stuff such life like representations of Paul Bearer?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I just wanna know when does Edge find the time to make all of those mannequins.... and further more, when did her learn how to stitch and stuff such life like representations of Paul Bearer?

That's all you want to know in your entire life? Somebody find this out so he can someday rest in peace!

[Anybody Thrilla]

What's crazy is that throughout this whole angle, Paul Bearer hasn't stopped tweeting.

Please tell me that his tweets say "KAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE! HEEELLLLLLLLLLLLPPPP! I'M AT BAGGAGE CLAIM!"

[Aguakate]

Please tell me that his tweets say "KAAAAAAAAAAAAAANE! HEEELLLLLLLLLLLLPPPP! I'M AT BAGGAGE CLAIM!"

No, he just talks about how great WWE has been to him and stuff. He's pretty "non-chalant" about the whole kidnapping "thingy".

[Lock Jaw]

What's crazy is that throughout this whole angle, Paul Bearer hasn't stopped tweeting.

The right to Tweet was added to the Geneva Conventions for the humane treatment of Prisoners of War (or wrestling).

[Innovator]

Why the fuck does Kane call him Paul and not dad?

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I found it a bit amusing how corny the storyline is. Edge rubbed food in Paul's face and Kane makes it sound like Paul had been fucking waterboarded.</font>

[Aguakate]

Why the fuck does Kane call him Paul and not dad?

Is Bearer Undertaker's dad too? I never understood that part. I know Kane and 'Taker are brothers, and Paul is Kane's dad, but is he Undertaker's dad too?

[chrisat928]

They're half brothers. Paul slept with Taker's mother, and had Kane.

[Jeritron]

I fucking hate when there are cookie sheets under the ring. Hello! Nobody is making cookies at the Smackdown tapings!
And don't get me started on how Triple H hits people in the skull with a sledgehammer and they don't get injured and he doesn't get arrested...

I swear. Sometimes I wonder if this shit is even real

[Tommy Gunn]

This storyline gets two thumbs down from me, and is subsequently fast forwarded every week.

[Rammsteinmad]

Paul Bearer is fucking annoying when he keeps screaming out for Kane.

[FourFifty]

My prob with this feud is Edge shouldn't be the face.

You have some dude kidnapping someone's dad, abusing him, and taking every shortcut possible. I have trouble seeing Edge as the Anti-Hero, and I can't buy him as a face.

[Cool King]

I have to say though, it's better than his last run as a face when every promo he kept saying included "SPEAR! SPEAR! SPEAR! SPEAR! SPEAR! SPEAR! SPEAR! SPEAR! SPEAR! SPEAR!"

The only annoying thing now is that the crowd still chant that duing his matches. It's even included in SvR11.

I think the problem is that Edge did an amazing job at being a heel between 2004 and 2009 that now, we're all used to it and just find it very hard to buy him as a face. I think during that period of time, he became a "Cool Heel" to the majority of us and now he's sortof stuck there, which is always bad for a wrestler. You don't want to become a "Cool Heel" if you're a wrestler.

It doesn't matter what he does now, because most of us would rather see him go back to being a "Cool Heel".

[The Pope]

Bring back the Edgecution as his finisher :y:

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yeah, that would solve this whole problem.

[Kane Knight]

Edge is a kind jailer. He provides Paul Bearer with clean clothes every week on Smackdown. What I want to know is why Kane or Smackdown hasn't called the police on something like this.

Kidnapping is a federal crime WWE! Get on the ball and try to get Kane back with his long lost father!

Kane's libertarian. He doesn't want big gubmint interfering with his personal affairs.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I always thought he was just a big red retard.

[bigslimjj]

I really wish Kane would bring back the mask. Ya know... little kids can be scared by monsters too.You would think that would help the faces out by being the "Monster Slayer" and taking down the big bad boogey man.This angle is very Looney tooney.If you notice when Edge takes off with the wheelchair he does a little hop skip step that is straight out of a cartoon.I have wanted Kane to have a long title run forever now.But if I would have known it was gonna be like this I would have rather seen him go film another "See no evil" and never have the title again.

[Cool King]

This isn't a shot at you bigslimjj but I'm tired of people saying that Kane should bring back the mask.

The mask is totally irrelevant now. The whole point of the mask was to hide Kane's face as it was scarred and burned. But when Kane removed it, his face was fine and the scars were only "mental scars" or something like that.

The good thing behind the mask for Kane was that it added mystery to the Kane character, as everyone wanted to know what he looked like under the mask. Now that we've all seen Kane's face, Kane putting the mask back on would just be stupid as he'd just be a 43 year old bald man in a mask.

When Kane unmasked, it totally destroyed the Kane backstory and all it left was the story that Kane and Undertaker are half-brothers and Paul Bearer is their father. All the stuff about Kane being burned and people being disgusted when they saw his face (See McMahon-Helmsley Faction) was just thrown out the window and "it never happened".

So I don't think Kane should bring back the mask as I personaly don't think it would do anything for him. It won't scare kids and the kids will know it's just Kane under the mask as they already know what he looks like.

[Cool King]

Also, it was Kane's choice to lose the mask. Something about finding it hard to breathe and wanting to show more emotions was his reason for losing it.

So I don't think Kane will want the mask back anytime soon.

[Tommy Gunn]

Yeah Kane going back to wearing a mask would be retarded, he's fine doing his promos in a red-lit room to creepy music. Let him ride out what's left of his character until the man retires.

Edge and the spear really annoys me now too, not only because it looks weak as shit these days. I know the counter-argument will be that moves like the attitude adjustment are also weak moves, but seriously Edge just looks like he's dragging someone to the mat, not obliterating them.

[MIZantine Empire]

bowling last night had smackdown playing at the bar. my buddy pointed out something that made me laugh. it was at the part where "paul bearer" went flying down the stairs and kane ran after. he said "i love how we all know kane is supposed to be this big tough guy, yet running down the stairs he still has to use the hand rail" i lol'd and spilled my beer

[Jakob Synn]

"i love how we all know kane is supposed to be this big tough guy, yet running down the stairs he still has to use the hand rail" i lol'd and spilled my beer

The Scores Right After Wrestling was talking about this. About how Kane is so slow when it comes to running.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I personally am not into this angle at all. I mean, some of it can be explained away. Kane is this mastermind that took out The Undertaker, yes, but that was a huge plan. He's been put on the spot and his emotions are clouding his better judgment. But that makes the poor guy seem sympathetic, more than anything.

I also like Edge and Kane's promo work. Edge is bizarrely good at playing a psychopath who enjoys torment and slipping in sarcastic remarks, as corny as they may be. And Kane's promo work has been top-notch recently. The dude deserves another ten World Title runs for how many years he's been able to keep a straight face with all the shit he's been asked to do.

But the list of things I don't like is much longer:

* I understand and appreciate the character continuity of Edge. He's not a nice guy, and he doesn't need to be. I also understand that Kane is a monster, and Paul Bearer is an asshole (more on that later), but he's a real dick. The only reason we could want to cheer him is if we're cheering the karma Kane and Paul Bearer are getting. But that is why the WWE can never be proper PG to me. Two wrongs don't make a right, Edge.

* I love (sarcastic) the way Paul Bearer gets an opportunity to talk with his fate in the hands of the fans, and he tells them all that he hates them and that they don't deserve to have fathers. Wow. Smart movie, Paulie. It's also annoying that they did played a recap video of the storyline, and deliberately positioning him saying these things at moments where Edge looks like a dick so we are reminded Paul is the heel. Well, maybe instead of needing to remind us, a storyline where Edge wasn't such a dick would have been better?

* Edge has had Paul way too long. It's just dragging. Edge got his match, and I guess he wants his psychological advantage, but it's just awkard. That's more a complaint with the entire angle than a specific aspect.

* For a guy who really wants his father back, Kane sure takes things at a jog.

* It's almost comical that Edge has things set up so well.

* As someone else said, if someone attacked Edge and got Paul Bearer back, they could really earn their way into Kane's good graces. In fact, it would be a nice heel rub for a Tyler Reks, or someone like that.

* "KAAAAAAAANNNNEEEEEEE! I'M HERE, KAAAAAANNNNEEEE!" Your son is slow, Paul. You're better off just keeping your mouth shut and not giving Edge the satisfaction and stressing him out more. Edge hasn't killed you yet, and he's giving you nice clothes and obviously feeding you. Plus he obviously "needs" you for his master plan. You'll be fine.

There were so many ways to take an angle between Kane post-Undertaker annhilation and Edge and make it genuinely interesting on a human level. Kane believing that the WWE is now his and Edge wanting that tenth title reign more than anything. Writes itself, really. But the World Heavyweight Title has taken a backseat in this entire storyline (although it is the chief reason these guys are feuding), and it's developed this short-sighted approach. Edge, you can't keep Paul Bearer forever, and when Kane gets him back, he's going to want to kill you. This now can't end when you win the World Title.

The thing I am most interested in is how Kane gets Paul Bearer back. I'm expecting the WWE to do something shitty like actually kill Bearer off (again). But as mentioned, it'd be a great way to get a new heel over, and it'd be funny if Edge just gave the wheelchair to someone (like Chavo) as Kane was chasing him, and Chavo was all "Hey, what? Oh shit!" and then got pummeled by Kane. But it's something that is just spinning its wheels with no real pay-off, in my opinion.

Random possibility: Edge is brainwashing Paul Bearer behind the scenes, and at TLC, Bearer turns on Kane, and Edge becomes the Devil's Favourite Demon. :shifty:

[Kane Knight]

Also, it was Kane's choice to lose the mask. Something about finding it hard to breathe and wanting to show more emotions was his reason for losing it.

So I don't think Kane will want the mask back anytime soon.

I always thought he did a good job at displaying emotion with the mask on. Then again, I can imagine breathing would be a bitch under that fucker.

Anyway, Masked Kane is merely another fixation for nostalgiatards.


Edge and the spear really annoys me now too, not only because it looks weak as shit these days. I know the counter-argument will be that moves like the attitude adjustment are also weak moves, but seriously Edge just looks like he's dragging someone to the mat, not obliterating them.


Edge's old spear looked more like a haircut half the time. I don't think this is worse.

[The Naitch]

who cares, it's just kids and their parents who watch WWE, there\s no need for continuity and attention to detail. Only a small minority of you people are out there nitpicking buffalo wing sauce

[The Naitch]

It just feels like the writers are not even trying with these skits. Just taking a lazy way out

[Kane Knight]

who cares, it's just kids and their parents who watch WWE, there\s no need for continuity and attention to detail. Only a small minority of you people are out there nitpicking buffalo wing sauce

Needless to say, I emailed WWE immediately to register my outrage on the matter.

[Swiss Ultimate]

ok obviously i know its all an act..but inevitably they are trying to portray this as a real kidnapping. that being said, i hate how every week paul is in new clean clothes, groomed, and well clean looking. i remember edge smashing chicken wings on his shirt, and putting maranara sauce in his hair (lol by the way) i cried a little because the chicken wings looked sexily delicious, but i digress. anyways if paul was really kidnapped, shouldnt he still have his chicken wing soaked shirt, screwed up, maranara-y hair, and a gnarly beard going? i sometimes get nit picky on these attention to detail things. whats your thoughts? if anything it should be at least fun convo

I really dig Mizantine Empire. I might finally endorse another poster...

[Swiss Ultimate]

Hoping for a swerve where Kane really doesn't give a fuck and chokeslam Edge in the first minute of the match.

[MIZantine Empire]

I really dig Mizantine Empire. I might finally endorse another poster...


thank you kind sir! i try to be AWESOME!!! haha had to do it. just post it how i see it! its fun watching wwe and wrestling again through new eyes. i have been watching it for about 2 years steady now. when i was younger (95-2002) i was a freak about wrestling and loved it. but was a little younger and all that. so its fun to have seen it through two different sets of eyes now