Lets Help TNA Wrestling

[ooTin]

This is a thread for the TNA executives to read... not that they will but who cares. Any suggestions that yo believe would make TNA Wrestling a better, more profitable corporation that could compete with the WWE.



EX: Fire Russo because his stories are all used up and he has nothing to offer the wrestling business anymore....

[LoDownM]

Just buy them the Rise and Fall of WCW dvd and tell them to not try to replicate the last parts of the dvd.

[TheAdamEvansFan]

Permanently move Dixie Carter from RINGSIDE.

[TheAdamEvansFan]

Come to the Midwest.

[TheAdamEvansFan]

Get out of that small studio. Too condensed, looks like they are in a high school gym.

[ooTin]

Come to the Midwest.

I like that idea... they need to broaden their horizons.

[TheAdamEvansFan]

More promos like parking lot brawls, etc.. Get creative.

[Razzamajazz]

hire adam evans and give him the title

[CSL]

In the words of Ole Anderson, 'quit being so damn dumb'. They have more than enough talent to be successful and using the right talent the right way will only attract more potential employees in terms of star power, which combined with a good product should only lead to more viewers/fans. I really think it's that simple for them. They have the backing, a nice TV deal/spot and the foundation to be a legit number 2/worthy alternative. They're just really really dumb. For every positive step forward they take, they counteract it by tying their legs together and attempting sprint backwards.

[MoFo]

Give up and start a new company.

[XL]

More promos like parking lot brawls, etc.. Get creative.
Just what they need, more parking lot brawls...:roll:

[SOCCER LEGS]

Give up and start a new company.

.

[ooTin]

Give up and start a new company.

that is not a helpful suggestion

[Ermaximus]

1) Reward the talent that's been there for them since the start.
2) Bring back what got them so over in the first place.
3) Fire Russo and get better booking.
4) Stop making the show revolve around Hogan, Bischoff, and what have you.
5) Like CSL said, STOP BEING STUPID.

[Purgatory]

that is not a helpful suggestion

Sometimes, you just gotta know when to throw your cards in. Closing down and starting over with fresh talent, some new ideas, etc...Sounds like a decent solution.

Some other things:

1. First and foremost: Drop 'Dusthead' Jeff Hardy. Seriously. They spend a ton of money to push this jobber through the roof, knowing hell-well that he's just gonna fuck it all up. Plus, he's goin to jail. Let the fuck rot.

2. Quit centering everything around Immortal, or whatever they're calling themselves now. They've got plenty of other talent that could pull ratings.

3. Stop featuring the Knockouts in Parking lot brawls every week. Now, I do appreciate their usage of the Knockouts though. It shows they're putting some kind of effort into a Division that a certain other company doesn't.

4. I hate how they've got their episodes named, foreshadowing what's gonna happen on the show. It's stupid and further cheapens and already cheap looking show.

[ooTin]

Sometimes, you just gotta know when to throw your cards in. Closing down and starting over with fresh talent, some new ideas, etc...Sounds like a decent solution.

Some other things:

1. First and foremost: Drop 'Dusthead' Jeff Hardy. Seriously. They spend a ton of money to push this jobber through the roof, knowing hell-well that he's just gonna fuck it all up. Plus, he's goin to jail. Let the fuck rot.

2. Quit centering everything around Immortal, or whatever they're calling themselves now. They've got plenty of other talent that could pull ratings.

3. Stop featuring the Knockouts in Parking lot brawls every week. Now, I do appreciate their usage of the Knockouts though. It shows they're putting some kind of effort into a Division that a certain other company doesn't.

4. I hate how they've got their episodes named, foreshadowing what's gonna happen on the show. It's stupid and further cheapens and already cheap looking show.

Now those are good suggestions.... for the most part. I really like what you said about Jeff Hardy.

[ooTin]

Lets keep this rolling...
How could TNA survive with out the money that Hogan and Bischoff are putting into the company?

[CSL]

Perfectly fine since Hogan and Bischoff haven't put any money into TNA.

[Razzamajazz]

lol

[Droford]

Stop signing WWE's castoffs.

People didn't care about them in the WWE, they aren't going to care about them in TNA.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I think they need to admit that wrestling is fake. I don't mean come out and have Jeff Jarrett cut a promo talking about how what they do is predetermined or anything, but they should at least stop trying to convince people otherwise.

The backstage promos, for example. They're all shot from seemingly hidden cameras that the wrestlers NEVER notice, and it comes off as ridiculously tacky. Yes, I know an argument can be made that a lot of people wouldn't say what they were saying if they knew they were being filmed, and I see what they're TRYING to accomplish...but they're failing.

Wrestling is very formulaic, and it's tried and tested. TNA, however, has this incessant urge to constantly try and "reinvent the wheel", so to speak (six-sided ring, entire PPVs of gimmick matches, RIDICULOUS gimmick matches, etc.). This line of thinking has plagued them for a long time. They need to realize that you CAN stick to the tried and tested wrestling formula and still be entertaining without thinking TOO far outside of the box.

I figure the reason that they do it is just to provide an alternative to WWE, which is fine in theory...but maybe instead of worrying about WWE at all, they should just find their own niche and do whatever it is that THEY do best. I know that they want to compete with the big dogs, but it's just not time yet.

Sorry, that turned out much longer than I expected.

[TazFTW86]

Make Desmond Wolf champ!...btw where is he?

[ooTin]

I figure the reason that they do it is just to provide an alternative to WWE, which is fine in theory...but maybe instead of worrying about WWE at all, they should just find their own niche and do whatever it is that THEY do best. I know that they want to compete with the big dogs, but it's just not time yet.



Good incite. That is what MADE TNA Wrestling so awesome when it first started up. You had guys like AJ, Jarrett, James Storm, and others who were reinventing the way wrestling was performed. And now it seems very commercial.

[Purgatory]

I read recently that he worked an episode of TNA XPlosion (whatever the fuck that is). I guess they're gonna put he and Magnus together again with a horribly unoriginal team name.

[FourFifty]

I want to help TNA out. I've always been in favor for assisted suicide.

[Purgatory]

Lets keep this rolling...
How could TNA survive with out the money that Hogan and Bischoff are putting into the company?

What CSL said. As far as I know, they came in to change what they already have in place and make it better. They're not putting any of their own money into it, supposedly. I think SpikeTV throws them some once in awhile to assist in keeping their programming 'fresh', or whatever.

[ooTin]

What CSL said. As far as I know, they came in to change what they already have in place and make it better. They're not putting any of their own money into it, supposedly. I think SpikeTV throws them some once in awhile to assist in keeping their programming 'fresh', or whatever.


They pay Spike TV for that spot. As far as Spike giving them money.. not too sure about that I will have to look into it. I'm pretty sure that Hogan is working there for next to nothing( as far as the amounts that Hogan usually gets paid) and feeds several thousand a month into TNA.

[Heisenberg]

TNA is not afraid to pull punches and mix the old with the new, I believe if they stick with whatever they feel is right, things will go their way soon. I would tell them though to get rid of the presence of that Jersey Shore gimmick, because I see my wife watches enough of that piss around me and wrestling is supposed to be MY TIME, tiger uppercut.

[CSL]

Make Desmond Wolf champ!...btw where is he?

'Bump' problem.

I'm pretty sure that Hogan is working there for next to nothing( as far as the amounts that Hogan usually gets paid) and feeds several thousand a month into TNA.

lol. I'm the last person to lay into Hogan but the thought of him putting money into a wrestling company is hilarious. And he would probably tell you the same thing.

TNA is not afraid to pull punches and mix the old with the new, I believe if they stick with whatever they feel is right, things will go their way soon.

This is one of the problems with TNA fans.

[MoFo]

I think they need to admit that wrestling is fake. I don't mean come out and have Jeff Jarrett cut a promo talking about how what they do is predetermined or anything, but they should at least stop trying to convince people otherwise.



Dunno, they had Hogan go out on Reaction the other week and practically bury kayfabe and totally shit over wrasslin'.


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Well, brother, we're lightening the load around here. We're trimming the fat. We're thinning the herd. I mean, you know, it's pathetic. It's pathetic, that Dixie would let this company get in the shape it's in. It's her train of thought! Raven? Who hasn't had a damn shower or bath? Y'know, with RVD, and that whole crew out there? They meant to professional wrestling what Hulk Hogan, who sold out Shea Stadium? who put 94,000 people in the Pontiac Silverdome? who slammed a 700-pound giant? They mean to professional wrestling what Hulk Hogan means?

No wonder this company was in the shape it's in. It's time to get rid o' the trash, the garbage, the worthless piece of crap out here, and we started with Dixie Carter. Yeah, we're gettin' very real around here. We are so, real, it's unbelievable. Because, if you don't get over like I said, you're fired. If you don't draw number, if you don't entertain, if you don't put asses in seats, if you don't put the coinage in the piggy bank, you're fired. No more games. No more, "Kayfabe." "It's a work." "I've won 34 tag team belts." Who gives a damn, how many… fake belts you won!? If you don't draw money, you get fired around here. If you don't put asses in seats, you’re gone.



Just sounds like that 'worked shoot' he did on Russo at Bash at the Beach.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I meant more that they should admit to themselves. Yes, wrestling is fixed. We all know that. They need to work within that realm though, as opposed to trying to toe the line of reality. It's tacky. They're acting like they're 'too cool' for wrestling, and there's definitely no such thing...especially if you're a wrestling company.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Why should I help them? They're like a monkey, the minute I turn my back they'll start slinging shit again.

[The Ravishing One]

Get rid of Hogan and Bischoff
Keep Flair out of the ring
Move out of the Impact zone


I also felt they should've taken up Heymans offer.

[Rammsteinmad]

Get rid of Hulk Hogan. The guy said before he joined TNA that he wasn't there to steal the spotlight etc, but to 'help out' the new guys.

TNA has evolved around nothing BUT Hogan since he got there.

Hogan hasn't done anything for the wrestling industry that didn't benefit himself in some way in the last 20 years. The guy is the living embodiment of what is wrong is professional wrestling. He's a big cancerous mole on the industry, and I seriously can't wait for the day he dies, so I can come on here and celebrate and be the biggest prick imaginable to anyone who says 'RIP' and bullshit like that.

[Rammsteinmad]

And he still thinks run-ins/beat-downs and other drama during EVERY main event is still the in-thing. This isn't 1996, I'm sick and tired of watching every TNA main event end with a beat down or some crap which features Hogan being this ultra badass face/heel.

FUCKING DIE HOGAN!!! :foc:

[Volare]

Two step process for TNA.

1. Get a gun.
2. Point it at yourself and pull the trigger.

[Rammsteinmad]

Two step process for TNA.

1. Get a gun.
2. Point it at Hogan and pull the trigger.

Fixed.

[dingdongyo]

Stop signing WWE's castoffs.

People didn't care about them in the WWE, they aren't going to care about them in TNA.

christian cage? r-truth?

those really are questions, i don't watch tna. but i thought they were both major champions there at some point.

[MIZantine Empire]

first off i dont mind the people from wwe going to tna. after all they need work so i dont mind them finding it. people like styles, kaz, morgan, etc have become huge stars in tna when they were jobbers/nothing/in stupid angles in WWE. i think wwe dropped the ball huge on styles, in my opinion he is the best wrestler in sports entertainment. i have thought about what would help tna alot. and in my thinking i started thinkin about the monday night wars, and how wwe did anything they could to get over wcw. here is what tna needs to do. knockout/playboy relationship. i guess the guy in me is saying that cuz i know i wouldnt mind seein velvet/madison/tara/angelina/taylor wilde (released or not)/so cal val/etc. even tho most of the wrestlers live in fla, a move would be awesome. those fans at impact are idiots, and are ruining it. i think maybe a move east (philly, new york, new jersey) would be good, seeing as how those crowds usually are hot. they need to drop russo. imo he hasnt been good anywhere and he looks like if john stamos fucked his sister who also looked like john stamos. hogan and bischoff need to go, they are terrible. and lastly dixie carter needs to really really consider banging me. the end

[The Pope]

I also felt they should've taken up Heymans offer.
Heyman is overrated.

[CSL]

Do you have a reason for that or is it because he's an internet darling?

[dhellova guy]

I've had an idea for a while, but needs some refining.

It would involve the ex-WWE wrestlers "hogging" the spotlight (like they already are). Progressivly, the other wrestlers rebell against them, starting a "WWE vs TNA" fued where the TNA starts go over.

However, stealing from DX a little, to generate some pub for the fued, have the TNA people start showing up at WWE events with cameras and "antagonize" the WWE. Get there name out there. I'm sure you can find a group of WWE fans at any event who will say anything TNA wants them to to get on TV. Do it over and over until WWE has to respond.

Thats the only way I can see TNA getting ahead, by using WWE. Not just there ex-wrestlers, but the company itself.

[DInsaneOne]

CSL and Purgatory hit it on the nail,

In terms of the immortal angle i think they missed a trick by not having aj styles being the main hero rather than a heel, if there is anyone who can relate or make a crowd emotionally invested in the TNA plight it probably would be him...he is to TNA what sting was to WCW. I guess vince russo must have thought everybody would expect that and he changed the formula...like others have been saying just keep it simple.

TNA reaction is a pretty great show and concept, i think its done well and they should keep it that way.

at the rate this immortal angle is going having jeff hardy as your main antagonist is pretty risky, if he can stay sober he can pull it off well, but with the court charges i suspect any momentum Immortal gained is going to blow up in their face.

They need to capitalize on the internet market more, wwe is making some strides but tna can at least match them, TNA utilizes youtube more which is great, i say provide a bit more internet content, have more interesting spin cycles, some of those were pretty good.

Create NEW stars and enhance the established ones

If possible create an alliance with ROH, try to do a supershow of some sort

[ooTin]

christian cage? r-truth?

those really are questions, i don't watch tna. but i thought they were both major champions there at some point.

They were... Christian Cage is/was a mid card WWE wrestler and probably always will be.. There is no doubt that the man has talent but he seems a bit flaky. As for R-Truth... that is just one huge cluster fuck of crappy character, shitty talent, and a false sense of bravado. WWE GARBAGE!!!

[The Ravishing One]

Heyman is overrated.

In your opinion he is. But I would've given him all that control he asked for (hirings/firings etc) because I personally feel he would've focused on the youth of TNA and pushed them. Not the shitty WWE/ECW old timers that have already had the limelight for too long. Oh, and Matt Morgan? seriously? If he was any good, Vince would've kept him.

[MoFo]

Heyman asked for an offer beyond what he was worth. I think it was in the region of a $50m package in salary and company stock over 5yrs, thats what he said to Alvarez and Meltzer.

Thats fucking insane.

[The Ravishing One]

Yeah pretty nuts - but would love to see what Hogan/Bischoff and even Flair is getting.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Dunno, they had Hogan go out on Reaction the other week and practically bury kayfabe and totally shit over wrasslin'.
Just sounds like that 'worked shoot' he did on Russo at Bash at the Beach.

By his own logic...they should fire Hulk Hogan.

[Xero]

Heyman asked for an offer beyond what he was worth. I think it was in the region of a $50m package in salary and company stock over 5yrs, thats what he said to Alvarez and Meltzer.

Thats fucking insane.

It was ridiculous, but who would blame him? Everyone else comes in on a pedestal, he may as well take advantage of it. Hogan and Bischoff were clearly not worth it.

I never heard a value of the contract itself (I believe he asked for a ridiculous price because he doesn't really want to do wrestling anymore) but I did hear that a huge part of it was that he would have access to Spike TV and probably get a show of his own. That was apparently the biggest thing for him, outside of complete control.

[bigslimjj]

1.Get out of the Impact zone,and start taping the live shows as Impacts.Only use the venues where they sell the most tickets,go into as many big market cities as possible.

2.The marketing of their product is what hurts them the most.They don't know how to package together a product.Every wrestler is a product.Their marketing says bargin bin.Jeff hardy was huge last year in WWE.He comes into TNA and they WCW-Bret hart him.The only athlete they have brought in correctly is Angle.Probly cause he has a lot of say into what he does.

3.Slow it down or simplify the product.They stick too many people on Impact every week.Not everyone needs a storyline.

4.Anyone over 50 should never hold more then a tag team belt

5.Make Fortune their future. Along with hernandez,Eric Young,Joe,and every English wrestler in the company.
6.Bring back Chris Daniels,Petey Williams,and Awesome Kong.Lose Hogan.

[dingdongyo]

Hogan and Bischoff were clearly not worth it
bischoff still has a job in professional wrestling?

...why???

[RiX1024]

Right here's my take

1. Bring back the 6 sided ring because it gave TNA a personality and made them stand out better than the other major promotions

2. I agree with moving out of the Impact Zone, just reminded me too much of the Disney tapings in WCW. plus they barely made any money in that shed.

3. Stick with the originals e.g AJ, EY, Beer Money and Samoa Joe exc, give them a push and build the X-Division like it used to be.

4. Put Hogan and Bischoff in the back seat, I don't mind them in an authority angle but putting them centre stage is a bad move.

5. Limit the ex-WWE performers coming to TNA, only if they deserve a spot.

6. Hire Paul Heyman and Vine Russo can fck right off.

7. Bring back Don West so they can follow WWE's move for a 3-man commentary team.

[The Naitch]

Well, Bischoff passed on helping TNA back in 2003 or so, because he didn't think they had the proper vision to compete with WWE.

But now he's with TNA. Maybe he sees potential for the company this time around

They got the talent. But the rest sucks

[The Naitch]

first things first though: Get rid of that god awful RVD theme. That's a start

[MoFo]

Come to think of it, 'TNA' is a really crappy name for a wrasslin company.

[Rammsteinmad]

Well, Bischoff passed on helping TNA back in 2003 or so, because he didn't think they had the proper vision to compete with WWE.

But now he's with TNA. Maybe he sees potential for the company this time around

They got the talent. But the rest sucks

I would have thought it had more to do with the fact that in 2003 he was in WWE, this time around he was probably looking for work.

[ooTin]

bischoff still has a job in professional wrestling?

...why???
Holly shit really???? Come on man at least pretend like you watch wrestling when you post on a wrestling thread!:n: fail

[DLVH84]

Get rid of Hogan and Bischoff
Keep Flair out of the ring
Move out of the Impact zone


I also felt they should've taken up Heymans offer.

Or Kevin Sullivan's.

[ooTin]

Or Kevin Sullivan's.

What was Sullivan's offer?

[Volare]

Bring back the 6 sided ring because it gave TNA a personality and made them stand out better than the other major promotions

You have got to be kidding me. :rofl:

[The Naitch]

I would have thought it had more to do with the fact that in 2003 he was in WWE, this time around he was probably looking for work.

Read in his book, maybe I read it wrong, it could've been during the time that he was not involved in wrestling (like 2001 or early 2002. He came to WWE in summer 2002)

Also, Vince got JR to call up Bischoff if he wanted to come in around 2001, but he turned it down. Vince personally called him in 2002, this time he took the offer. So yeah, if Bischoff took the first offer, he would've been involved in the InVasion angle

[Mr. Nerfect]

"Keep it simple."

That's the best way to book things. The best storyline in TNA in 2010 was Kurt Angle starting at the bottom, working his way up to the top again -- wrestling his way through the best in TNA. They then added some stupid melodramatic bullshit with his job being on the line. Why? That just telegraphed Angle would win pretty much all his matches on the way up there.

TNA are trying to juggle too many balls. They want their top faces to be Mr. Anderson (understandable, because he moves a lot of merchandise for TNA), Rob Van Dam (see: Mr. Anderson), Matt Morgan, The Pope and Samoa Joe. There's just so many guys floating around there that it gets congested. Take a deep breath, and realise that what originally attracted people to TNA was that things like the X-Division meant something. That is where Jeff Hardy and Rob Van Dam should be competing, in my opinion. Even Kurt Angle. The Pope and Matt Morgan are yet to win a single championship in the WWE or TNA, so TV Titles for them and they can work their way up. That leaves Mr. Anderson and Samoa Joe at the top. That is fine with me right now. Joe could even go after the TV Title for a while, so he can call himself a Grand Slam Champion. They've feuded so much in the past; but I would not be opposed to seeing Joe and Styles feud over the TV Title -- with Styles trying to keep Grand Slam glory to himself.

TNA just overbooks things. I get that they want each character to be developed and have the spotlight, but so many of them are just floating around doing things for the sake of doing them. I love Stevie Richards as much as the next guy, and he is in tremendous shape; but let's leave him for house shows and as a road agent, hey?

If this feud between Brother Ray and Brother Devon doesn't go over well, then perhaps cut your losses with them, and let them go to their wrestling school. Why is TNA trying to keep Mick Foley? I love the guy, but he's not really doing anything. If they got rid of Taz and replaced him with Foley, then that's something. I'd personally like to see Raven as a color commentator, though. He'd probably be cheaper, too.

Just keep it simple. You don't need ghosts, old guys, people turning every week, etc. Jeff Jarrett vs. Kurt Angle at Genesis doesn't need 6 guys running in. It needs Angle to come back, make Jarrett tap, make people happy, and then Angle moves on to his next program. Easy.

[ooTin]

TNA are trying to juggle too many balls.

GIGGITY

[SaskatchewanChamp]

They are drawing the highest rating shows on the station that airs Impact. They don't need help. You wanna help someone, help McDonalds and Burger King figure out how to stop making this forum so happy, when they are so sad!

[Aguakate]

Understand that building, or putting together, a new stable isn't the answer to everything.

[ooTin]

They are drawing the highest rating shows on the station that airs Impact. They don't need help. You wanna help someone, help McDonalds and Burger King figure out how to stop making this forum so happy, when they are so sad!

Ok so they are the highest rated show on SpikTV... they have gems such as

1000 Ways To Die- absurd ways you can die

Auction Hunters - buying abandoned storage units

Blue Mountain State - no fucking clue

Deadliest Warrior - ridiculous bouts between samurai and indians

Fight For The Troops - no fucking clue

MANswers - stupid answers for the things guys never ask

The Ultimate Fighter - probably their 2nd highest rated show

TNA iMPACT - we all know this one

VGA 2010 - kinda interesting

[SaskatchewanChamp]

Are you guys seriously telling the Bishoff, Hogan, and Russo how to run a wrestling company? Jesus Christ, if you guys had a fraction of the success all three of them have in their ring finger, you definitely would not be posting on a wrestling forum.

[ooTin]

Are you guys seriously telling the Bishoff, Hogan, and Russo how to run a wrestling company? Jesus Christ, if you guys had a fraction of the success all three of them have in their ring finger, you definitely would not be posting on a wrestling forum.

Ok that is the point of a wrestling forum so we can share our ideas freely you jackhole

and further more you need to clam the fuck down mama.... we don't take to kindly to your types around here! Or my type... or any type for that matter

[SaskatchewanChamp]

Hogan = God of Wrestling. Always has been, always will be. No matter how much any of you dislike him.

[ooTin]

Hogan = God of Wrestling. Always has been, always will be. No matter how much any of you dislike him.

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[CSL]

Ok so they are the highest rated show on SpikTV... they have gems such as

1000 Ways To Die- absurd ways you can die

Auction Hunters - buying abandoned storage units

Blue Mountain State - no fucking clue

Deadliest Warrior - ridiculous bouts between samurai and indians

Fight For The Troops - no fucking clue

MANswers - stupid answers for the things guys never ask

The Ultimate Fighter - probably their 2nd highest rated show

TNA iMPACT - we all know this one

VGA 2010 - kinda interesting

I do not believe for a second that Impact draws a higher rating than The Ultimate Fighter. I could be wrong but I'd very surprised.

[itsmeJD]

I do not believe for a second that Impact draws a higher rating than The Ultimate Fighter. I could be wrong but I'd very surprised.

I second this statement.

[ooTin]

I do not believe for a second that Impact draws a higher rating than The Ultimate Fighter. I could be wrong but I'd very surprised.

iMPACT! has been there highest rated show the last 2 weeks... before that it was Ultimate Fighter... iMPACT! will fall to #2 again soon im sure

[CSL]

The Ultimate Fighter finished 2 weeks ago.

[ooTin]

The Ultimate Fighter finished 2 weeks ago.

EXACTLY!!! Thats kinda my point

[VSG]

Make Bill Watts the booker.

[ooTin]

Make Bill Watts the booker.

I disagree