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The Rogerer
02-04-2012, 12:18 PM
You genocidal alien racist!When I was given that choice, I had no idea of the implications. I didn't see why I would sacrifice my attack on Saren in order to save a bunch of pencil pushers. How am I supposed to know that it will have absolutely no negative impact to go out of my way to save them and that I was just being selfish?

Swiss Ultimate
02-05-2012, 09:23 AM
That's the problem with a lot of these "morality" games. Mass Effect does it the best and it is still extremely flawed. If this was the Star Trek Universe at least we'd have some guidelines to follow rather than just guessing what the game makers consider to be good and bad.

The only reason I even know that saving the council was "good" was because it added a cut-scene that ended with Shep being a Spectre again. The first time I played Mass Effect 2 the council died. I encountered a shitload more anger from aliens because of it.

Emperor Smeat
02-06-2012, 04:12 PM
Achievement list got leaked with an achievement giving the option of either playing the campaign twice with no previous saves or once with a ME2 save imported. Highest point value is 75 for beating the game on Insanity.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/mass-effect-3-achievements-leak-my-boner-immeasurable


Also for the Xbox 360 version is the ability to get free avatar stuff and early demo access by downloading the Mass Effect 3 Mission Command App from Facebook. The stuff has some requirements such as a free Normandy avatar prop to everyone if enough people sign up and then extra gifts based on achieving certain requirements with free DLC being given away as a possible gift.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/mass-effect-3-facebook-app-offers-free-xbox-360-avatar-props-and-early-demo-access/

Emperor Smeat
02-08-2012, 06:06 PM
Take it with a grain of salt but Gamestop is already selling codes for DLC content for the game with the first one rumored to be called "From Dust."

The DLC has a $10 price tag but neither EA nor Bioware have made any mentions of DLC content nor day 1 DLC packs.

It could either be a mix up by Gamestop or something EA wants to hold off from revealing so that people don't get upset at Day 1 DLC.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/rumor-first-mass-effect-3-dlc-called-from-dust/

Swiss Ultimate
02-08-2012, 06:13 PM
Hmmm...I dunno about the DLC, I got some just because I had gotten xbox points for Xmas. Feel like the DLC armor and stuff wasn't worth it. Though it was neat at first wearing the bright red Cerberus armor.

Tommy Gunn
02-09-2012, 06:03 AM
Not really fussed about the Collectors Edition, but HMV are offering a free N7 shirt with pre-orders, so I'm all over that shit.

Swiss Ultimate
02-09-2012, 12:22 PM
This is the first game I've actually pre-ordered. Usually I wait a year as I'm a budget gamer.

Destor
02-10-2012, 12:20 AM
paid off the game today...it will have to wait till im done with amalur tho

Swiss Ultimate
02-10-2012, 07:28 AM
I hope the spikey armor I get from playing the Amalur demo is available from the start.

Emperor Smeat
02-10-2012, 06:00 PM
2 new characters were leaked with one having a physical appearance change and the other being a character who ends up changing part of the previous assumed storyline as a result.

The two new squad mates are... EDI... yes I am not joking, the robot AI will be getting a new female body. Hmmm... I wonder if you can a sex with her... moving on! The second teammate is a Prothean who were thought to be extinct, which looks like a collector and was hinted at in ME2.

They were also leaked to be playable in the campaign mode.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/spoilers-two-new-mass-effect-3-squad-mates-leaked

The Rogerer
02-10-2012, 06:02 PM
Gender change?

RoXer
02-11-2012, 11:24 AM
It's available for $47 this weekend from newegg.com with the promo code EMCYTZT1174

Swiss Ultimate
02-11-2012, 06:03 PM
...whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

RoXer
02-11-2012, 06:10 PM
You can pre order this and enter the code above at checkout. Free 3 day shipping. I've ordered I think 4 games from newegg and they usually get here on Thursday, one time on Wednesday. No pre order bonuses though like with other sites.

Some people have problems with them not shipping until the next week but they seem to be in the minority and I've never experienced that.

Swiss Ultimate
02-11-2012, 06:20 PM
Thought the game wasn't available until March. Hell, the demo's coming out on my birthday.

RoXer
02-11-2012, 06:25 PM
Pre-order

Swiss Ultimate
02-13-2012, 08:50 AM
Ah.

Demo out tomorrow, unless you got it early. I can't figure out that facebook app "decode" shit...

Fryza
02-13-2012, 02:44 PM
Don't care about EDI, just means they probably won't be adding Legion back, which I'd rather have.

If it's true about the Prothean/Collector, then I'm happy. One reason I'd like Legion back, have a team of the last two games' mook grunts.

alvarado52
02-14-2012, 01:33 AM
One of the gameplay trailers (the reaper base one) clearly shows Legion in the Normandy.

Edit: not in the Normandy, but very much part of the game

Emperor Smeat
02-14-2012, 06:05 PM
Xbox 360 campaign demo is available today but with a small restriction on the co-op multiplayer part while the PC and PS3 version should be getting it before the end of the day.

The demo is around 1.7 GB in size and offers 2 single player missions with an extra 2 co-op missions only available now to those who activated their Battlefield 3 Online Pass. Non-pass users have to wait till February 17 to unlock the co-op portion of the demo.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/mass-effect-3-demo-now-live/

PS3 PAL version of the demo is reportedly delayed though for an extra day.

Requiem
02-14-2012, 11:16 PM
Multiplayer is hella fun. Level 9 or 10 sentinel right now. Can't wait to see what it's like in the full game. Looks like there are different enemies other than Cerberus, and obviously there will be more maps. It's just really smooth and plays really fast.

Swiss Ultimate
02-15-2012, 01:39 PM
I enjoyed the single-player demo. I just wish it had let me port my character for it. Wasn't able to access multiplayer when I tried.

RoXer
02-16-2012, 06:21 PM
Can't figure out a good color scheme for my guy :(

Also can't remember which bionic power it was that kept an enemy levitated in the air

Requiem
02-16-2012, 11:14 PM
So, figured out that hotkeys will assign automatically if you select the character and restart the game (on PC at least).

That said, Sentinel is overpowered and fun as hell. Infiltrator is my second favorite class. Love cryofreeze spamming everything. Soldier is a pussy for the most part. Not that fun to play. Haven't played vanguard or adept. Engineer is sort of weak it seems. Turret is not that good, although I haven't really leveled it.

Swiss Ultimate
02-17-2012, 07:24 AM
Yay for xbox! Multiplayer on the demo is online and fun. Everyone I play with is fucking horrible though. Maybe I need to turn the mic on...

Been playing alone on the White Firebase and just racking it up with my little engineer. Never knew the combat drone was so useful since I've always played as a sentinel (tech shield ftw).

RoXer
02-17-2012, 12:00 PM
Gunna add you

Swiss Ultimate
02-17-2012, 12:29 PM
dazhavu752 xbox live

Swiss Ultimate
02-18-2012, 03:56 PM
Wow...I...generally didn't care very much about the combat in Mass Effect 2. It wasn't bad or anything, but I felt like it was just a hurdle I had to overcome to get to the next part of the story.

Been playing the shit out of multiplayer now and, despite a few flaws (reviving a squad member usually puts you in the cover position), it is really fun. I might not make my teammates do all the work in the next game.

Swiss Ultimate
02-18-2012, 05:06 PM
From Penny-Arcade's Tycho:
Anyway, we were talking about Mass Effect 3’s multiplayer, and why it does not suck, and why it feels like an actual game and not like the multiplayer cyst which sometimes grows on long-running franchises. I wanted to know how it all feeds back into the single player, and I could have used Google, but I prefer to learn things from people when I can. I thought you might be curious about these connections as well, so asked him if I could post his response.
His response follows.
“As you know, Mass Effect 3 is all about the galactic war with the Reapers. We have designed a system to give players a status update on the state of their personal war as they progress through the game and accumulate war assets so they can take the fight back to the Reapers. The more you succeed in the game, the more war assets you earn and the more prepared you are to enter the final stages of the game.
An addition to this system is the Galaxy at War, which shows the player who controls which territories on the Galaxy Map and gives players an opportunity to enhance the total military strength of the galaxy by participating in optional things like Multiplayer, the iPhone app and the iPad game. You can get best possible outcome in the game by just playing single player if you want, as long as you are willing to do a lot of the side missions and content. However, maybe you only want to do a critical path run of the single player. Well, by playing multiplayer you also increase your galactic readiness rating can affect the final outcome. Using the iPhone Datapad app and the iPad Infiltrator game will also tie into Galaxy at War and update this final rating.
As a result, you can play the game how you want and not be negatively punished if you don’t want to play multiplayer or don’t own any iOS devices. You can do a little bit of all the four pieces and be able to get the best possible outcome. Or you can play a ton of multiplayer and just the critical single player stuff. Or just single player and all the side missions. We designed the system to give players choices, but also tie all the products together in a meaningful way beyond ‘unlock a new gun in single player.’ Galaxy at War is a really fun, interesting meta-game that is part of Mass Effect 3 and we think players will love it when they get the final game.”
He also told me that I should link his twitter feed @manveerheir (http://www.twitter.com/manveerheir) if you had any questions not covered by the above, which I thought was very nice of him.
(CW)TB out.

Tommy Gunn
02-18-2012, 05:43 PM
That's good to hear, I can go ahead and let my Gold membership expire then.

Swiss Ultimate
02-18-2012, 05:47 PM
You won't be able to play the full multiplayer without it.

Tommy Gunn
02-19-2012, 04:31 PM
That's kind of what I mean, I always do the side-quests, so I don't need to bother with the multiplayer to get the best ending.

Swiss Ultimate
02-19-2012, 06:44 PM
Oooohhh....well, I have been really enjoying it. Give it a shot.

alvarado52
02-19-2012, 07:24 PM
You guys wanna run a squad tonight? I'll be home around 10

Swiss Ultimate
02-19-2012, 07:29 PM
I know how to invite people, yet I am pretty confused about how to join games. Been playing with a Brit and an American pretty frequently. Can't find anyone good enough to finish a Silver game so far.

LEVEL 20 ENGINEER! :D

Wehttam
02-20-2012, 01:11 AM
i have just primarily rocking a krogan soldier. pretty badass. never played a mass effect game before, but this has been pretty fun. becoming pretty decent. may try some silver tomorrow, but hate playing with randoms.

Swiss Ultimate
02-20-2012, 11:00 AM
More often than not I join a silver room only to find that everyone is level 1. A good portion of the times it's half and half...with me and one other dude being level 18+ or something and then two people who have never played before.

If I'm the leader I change it to bronze and just play it.

Gonzo
02-20-2012, 11:41 AM
That's good to hear, I can go ahead and let my Gold membership expire then.

I'm just glad they didn't make it so that some of these other portions of the game had to be played in order to get 'X' result in single player.

Wehttam
02-20-2012, 04:30 PM
More often than not I join a silver room only to find that everyone is level 1. A good portion of the times it's half and half...with me and one other dude being level 18+ or something and then two people who have never played before.

If I'm the leader I change it to bronze and just play it.
im now confident that i can do silver. bronze is getting way too easy with 4 guys

Swiss Ultimate
02-20-2012, 07:29 PM
Feel the same way. Fuck, bronze is getting easy with three guys.

Gold is still ridiculous however.

Wehttam
02-20-2012, 11:22 PM
dont think i will ever be able to do that before the actual game comes out

Swiss Ultimate
02-21-2012, 07:44 AM
Unless our characters level max is going to be like 40, I don't see it either.

Emperor Smeat
02-21-2012, 05:58 PM
The first DLC packs for the game was accidentally leaked by the Xbox Marketplace and will be called "From Ashes".

The DLC pack also confirms earlier rumors about the Mass Effect 3 story changing part of what was previously known in the other 2 games.

Mass Effect 3: From Ashes, released February 20 presumably by accident, will apparently allow players to "unearth lost secrets from the past" and enlist a member of the game's Prothean race (confirming previous rumors).

http://kotaku.com/5887092/xbox-marketplace-accidentally-reveals-mass-effect-3-dlc

G
02-21-2012, 08:50 PM
For those of you who have purchased the N7 Collector's Edition (including the PC Digital Deluxe Edition), you will get this content at no extra charge. We'll have a lot more details for you later this week! Stay Tuned!

yay 4 me

Swiss Ultimate
02-22-2012, 07:20 AM
I only preordered the standard edition since I didn't care for most of the other shit. Will download the From Ashes DLC though.

Emperor Smeat
02-22-2012, 05:50 PM
The digital version on PSN will be having an exclusive pre-order not available for the PS3 version.

Sony and Electronic Arts are taking a step forward with Mass Effect 3, as the PlayStation Blog notes the game will be available day and date on PSN alongside the retail version on March 6, and you can digitally pre-order on PSN now.

Anyone who pre-orders through PSN will gain access to the M55 Argus rifle. What’s that?

“The Argus is a high-powered rifle and an excellent close-range weapon. Its bursts of fire ensure ammunition conservation during lengthy conflicts. Law-enforcement agencies across the Mass Effect galaxy are adopting the Argus as their standard rifle, as much for its intimidation factor as its suppression power.”

PSN consumers also gain access to a system theme that won’t be available anywhere else.
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/you-can-pre-order-mass-effect-3-now-via-psn/3998/


Bioware also confirms the first DLC pack called "From Ashes" will be free to anyone who ordered the N7 Collector's Edition of the game while everyone else has to pay regardless if the game was bought used or new. The DLC was never originally intended to be part of the collector's edition until very recently which is why its only a download code and not on the disc itself.

http://www.gameranx.com/features/id/5179/article/unacceptable-mass-effect-3-strips-core-content-for-paid-dlc/

Swiss Ultimate
02-23-2012, 05:26 PM
I got the points...want the fucking Prothean on my team.

alvarado52
02-24-2012, 02:15 AM
WELL DTTS, THANKS FOR SPOILING THAT!

You purposely avoid anything regarding the games plot or DLC, and this dude here fucks it all up.

just kidding, i read it already and spoiled it for myself.

Swiss Ultimate
02-24-2012, 06:52 PM
Is it really a spoiler? I mean, people already know about available characters and whatnot, and considering all the news on this ya know?

Anyways, glad you're kidding.

LoDownM
02-24-2012, 07:00 PM
How does talking about a DLC character, that would've been announced when the dlc was announced, spoil anything anyway?

Swiss Ultimate
02-24-2012, 07:57 PM
Well, he was kidding, so...

LoDownM
02-24-2012, 09:40 PM
Other people on the internet weren't.

Emperor Smeat
02-24-2012, 10:08 PM
The biggest issue was either Bioware, EA, or Microsoft themselves ended up accidentally spoiling a piece of Mass Effect 3 when it went up too early on the Xbox Marketplace. It wouldn't be that big of an issue if it wasn't for the fact of it changing what was known about the story in the previous 2 games.

I know on Kotaku, people were screaming for the heads of the editor in charge of the report just because the DLC picture he uploaded for the article ended up having the tag line that was in the DLC pack on the marketplace.

alvarado52
02-25-2012, 01:27 AM
Well my opinion on is that it shouldn't be dlc...and if it is, it should be free to all via a cerberus network type thing. It's simply too big of a wave in the ME lore to make it simply something that is "premium"

Swiss Ultimate
02-25-2012, 02:32 PM
I guess we could wait for reviews before downloading it.

Fryza
02-25-2012, 03:36 PM
First thing I'm doing when I am able to do it in the game. And he's being a main member. Brothean.

Swiss Ultimate
02-25-2012, 03:50 PM
Going to wait a bit before grabbing him.

Fryza
02-25-2012, 04:00 PM
I feel I am obliged to use the last game's mook race since they took out Legion, the first game's mook race.

And since I didn't get to use Legion until late in the game, I don't want the same event to happen.

alvarado52
02-25-2012, 04:53 PM
Im gonna snatch up all my team members right away. I felt the same way as Fryza with Legion...you get him so late in the game, and he's so damn cool, gut you dont get to use him too much.

Im currently powering through another play of ME2, and snatched him up asap, which had been entertaining, especially when taking him on missions like Tali's loyalty one and citadel ones.

Swiss Ultimate
02-25-2012, 06:57 PM
Legion better damn well play a good role in this game.

Fryza
02-26-2012, 04:29 AM
Bet you encounter him like Ashley/Kaidan in two. Which will make me sad.

Emperor Smeat
03-01-2012, 05:12 PM
In case anyone doesn't care about being spoiled and wants to know how the ending and parts of the game actually play out.

http://www.giantbomb.com/mass-effect-3/61-29935/so-here-is-the-ending-of-mass-effect-3/35-537798/

The ending is done Deus Ex Human Revolution style with a series of choices available but not everything will be available since its based on space points earned and decisions done in the game.

Also ends up setting the stage for Mass Effect 4 but not in a Halo 2 way.

Didn't actually spoil the ending with the tags but gives an idea of how it occurs if you've played a certain other game.

Fryza
03-02-2012, 03:55 AM
Really hoping that's not the case.

Also, been playing the demo a bit more tonight. Hate these fucking Cerberus troopers and their fucking grenades.

Destor
03-03-2012, 05:23 PM
does this drop tuesday?

Fryza
03-03-2012, 07:04 PM
Yes.

Destor
03-04-2012, 01:40 AM
with amalur i prolly wont get around to playing THE COPY IVE ALREADY BOUGHT until late spring. but still good news.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-04-2012, 07:24 AM
Fuck the opening due to the cheapest heat ever of killing a kid. Pretty lame move.

Thank fuck I'm off Earth and ready to play the main game now.

Now slow motion unskippable dream sequences why I slowly run after the kid? Get the fuck out

LoDownM
03-04-2012, 02:46 PM
Some of the things that happen in this game. Just gonna leave it at that for now.

Swiss Ultimate
03-05-2012, 08:23 AM
Say it ain't so...getting the game like tomorrow or the day after.

LoDownM
03-05-2012, 12:31 PM
Don't worry, DttS. The game is good. It's just, well we can talk about that later. Don't wanna spoil anything in anyway for anyone.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-05-2012, 02:01 PM
Disc swapping on the 360 is a bummer though. It's like all side-quests on disc 2, disc 1 for main quest.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-05-2012, 02:04 PM
Also, I played the last 2 games full renegade, I'm finding it hard to do a lot of the renegade choices in this one because they're too evil instead of just being a hard-ass.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-05-2012, 03:08 PM
8th disc swap #bothdiscsarefuckinginstalled

LoDownM
03-05-2012, 03:38 PM
Really? After you do the first 4 or so main story missions you shouldn't have to anymore. Didn't switch discs at all yesterday, and I played for like 5 hours.

Verbose Minch
03-05-2012, 07:46 PM
I get to meet Mark Meer tonight (Voice actor for Shepard).

BigDaddyCool
03-05-2012, 07:57 PM
So who is going to be a gay Shepard?

Gonzo
03-05-2012, 10:01 PM
PC ftw

Swiss Ultimate
03-05-2012, 10:46 PM
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Don't worry, DttS. The game is good. It's just, well we can talk about that later. Don't wanna spoil anything in anyway for anyone.

Will do.

Also, I played the last 2 games full renegade, I'm finding it hard to do a lot of the renegade choices in this one because they're too evil instead of just being a hard-ass.

I played in the middle the first time, then tried and eventually achieved full paragon. Sucks they turn his renegade into a psychopath.

So who is going to be a gay Shepard?

...hmmm...can we screw salarians?

PC ftw

I dunno...really love my controller.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-06-2012, 01:58 AM
Less psychopath, more racist on the renegade path unfortunately.

LoDownM
03-06-2012, 03:40 AM
So who is going to be a gay Shepard?

My female Shepard has been a lesbian since the first game, does that count?

Gonzo
03-06-2012, 03:54 AM
Initial thoughts on the mechanics/dynamics, spoilered in case:


- Combat seems improved. Weapon modifications seem like they will allow you to cater to your own specific play style.

- Space exploration is a stark contrast from previous ME titles. The new concept of amassing war assets etc. looks promising. Should be refreshing rather than a continuation of, let's face it, mundane space exploration. Seems appropriate from a story perspective.

D Mac
03-06-2012, 06:51 AM
Got it. Love it.

RoXer
03-06-2012, 11:26 AM
If for some reason you forgot to pick this up, it's $49 on newegg this week with the promo code EMCNGND89 and it comes with free shipping. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874105715&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL030612&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL030612-_-EMC-030612-Index-_-XBOX360Games-_-74105715-L022D)

#BROKEN Hasney
03-06-2012, 01:24 PM
Heart actually racing during a mission there. Holy shit.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-06-2012, 02:32 PM
Oh gosh, Garrus maybe my favourite character in anything ever now.

D Mac
03-06-2012, 02:35 PM
Yeah Garrus is an alien you wanna hang with.

D Mac
03-06-2012, 02:40 PM
This game IS better with Kinect. I have to put the sensor closer to me and shout a little louder but it's awesome not having to bring up the wheel every time you want to issue commands or use a power yourself.

Hanso Amore
03-06-2012, 06:23 PM
Game is in route to my house via mail, will have it in 2 days.

I was the asshole whos hard drive died and lost all my data.

Can someone who has this create a new chracter from scratch and give me an idea of what kind of Shepard I am going to be rolling with?

LoDownM
03-06-2012, 07:12 PM
Now that I've seen the Prothean character and the stuff he tells you about from when his people fought the reapers. I'm kinda pissed he's DLC. Gives to much info on the reapers to be DLC and not in the game by default.

Gonzo
03-06-2012, 08:04 PM
Game is in route to my house via mail, will have it in 2 days.

I was the asshole whos hard drive died and lost all my data.

Can someone who has this create a new chracter from scratch and give me an idea of what kind of Shepard I am going to be rolling with?

Saves you can download for ME 1 or 2:

http://www.masseffectsaves.com/

Or, I can email you mine (if they're small enough.) I have a perfect paragon save and a perfect renegade save (minus Legion because I gave him to Cerberus.)

I can't speak to your question but this should help you find a save that was comparable to your decisions from the previous two games.

LoDownM
03-06-2012, 08:14 PM
Game is in route to my house via mail, will have it in 2 days.

I was the asshole whos hard drive died and lost all my data.

Can someone who has this create a new chracter from scratch and give me an idea of what kind of Shepard I am going to be rolling with?

You get to pick weather or not Ashley, Kaidan, or numerous party members died. That's all you can do from the character creation.

Emperor Smeat
03-06-2012, 08:40 PM
Wouldn't be a Bioware game unless something went wrong but the studio is working on fixing the import Sheppard feature that has been giving problems to almost everyone.

Apparently you can't just import straight from Mass Effect 1 nor from Mass Effect 2 and if you didn't make any changes or use the demo to update your character, it wouldn't be importable to Mass Effect 3.
http://kotaku.com/5890992/bioware-says-its-working-on-mass-effect-3-face-import-errors


Also confirmed is cloud saves from Mass Effect 2 are not compatible with Mass Effect 3. This one probably won't be fixed any time soon or even at all.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-03-06-mass-effect-3-doesnt-allow-me2-imported-saves-from-cloud

Gonzo
03-06-2012, 10:38 PM
Works fine on PC.

Verbose Minch
03-06-2012, 10:41 PM
I have the import problem. It's horrible and I hope they fix it soon, I won't be playing ME3 till it's fixed.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-07-2012, 01:21 AM
Works fine on PC.

It doesn't for everyone.

Gonzo
03-07-2012, 02:50 AM
:-\

The article doesn't specifically mention PC users so I just assumed it was a problem with the console ports.

That's a huge bummer though. I really wouldn't want to play without importing.

D Mac
03-07-2012, 04:20 AM
I imported my character fine all I had to change was the face which I use the default Shepard anyway and my class. All my decisions stood and even the right crew members that died stayed dead.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-07-2012, 04:28 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Fvblv.jpg

#BROKEN Hasney
03-07-2012, 01:31 PM
People with actual dialogue are dying and has a lot more effect than random child death. Fuck that stupid kid, I hope he's in hell.

Gonzo
03-07-2012, 01:42 PM
People with actual dialogue are dying and has a lot more effect than random child death. Fuck that stupid kid, I hope he's in hell.

I think it's good how some of your previous companions die. Really pulls you in. Especially the circumstances that they die in.

LoDownM
03-07-2012, 01:59 PM
Big spoilers here. Do not read if you aren't past Tuchanka.

Hate that they killed off Mordin :'(

Gonzo
03-07-2012, 02:16 PM
Big spoilers here. Do not read if you aren't past Tuchanka.

Hate that they killed off Mordin :'(

It sucked but I think it fits well into the story. Kind of embodies the whole "making sacrifices" thing for the greater good.

Swiss Ultimate
03-07-2012, 03:06 PM
I read spoilers. Should be getting the game delivered today or tomorrow. Anyways, Mordin only has a few years left before he dies anyways...love him so much though. I have to wonder if any of this is decision-tree related. Like...maybe Mordin will survive for some of us????

Swiss Ultimate
03-07-2012, 03:13 PM
It's here, it's queer and it's going to take up the majority of my time for the next few days.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-07-2012, 05:06 PM
Holy shit

Only read this if you supported the Geth unless you don't want another playthrough

OK, Tali killing herself after her people took so many casualties really fucking got to me, especially after I hit paragon QTE and she still died.... Holy fuck

Emperor Smeat
03-07-2012, 05:31 PM
:lol: Bioware is being accused of using a lot of fan-made and stock images for certain screens in the game.

The spoiler involves Tali.

Someone managed to find the stock Getty Images of what was used for the unmasked Tali.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17fpotfw143rqjpg/original.jpg


I think the trailer or intro to the game also has images that were blatantly taken from stock images and fan art.

Gonzo
03-07-2012, 06:17 PM
I read spoilers. Should be getting the game delivered today or tomorrow. Anyways, Mordin only has a few years left before he dies anyways...love him so much though. I have to wonder if any of this is decision-tree related. Like...maybe Mordin will survive for some of us????

I would highly doubt it, given the context that he is involved in the story.

LoDownM
03-07-2012, 07:29 PM
Holy shit

Only read this if you supported the Geth unless you don't want another playthrough

OK, Tali killing herself after her people took so many casualties really fucking got to me, especially after I hit paragon QTE and she still died.... Holy fuck


I'm gonna have to play Mass Effect 2 again. My sister was able to save both sides because she managed to not get Tali exiled in 2.

Swiss Ultimate
03-07-2012, 08:10 PM
One annoying thing, my multiplayer characters from the demo didn't transfer over. Going to have to rebuild my level 20 engineer now, yaaay.

Is there a comic that explains what happened between ME2 and ME3? I kind of figured Shep would have just kept his ship and went around preparing for the coming war.

I had figured that Illusive man would have the same motivation this game and the whole problem would be that he'd go too far in protecting humanity. Didn't think he'd turn into such an obvious villain bent on galactic domination.

Emperor Smeat
03-07-2012, 08:15 PM
No comic and the only reason it was done for ME 2 was because of ME 2 debuting on the PS3 and Microsoft owning the rights to the first game.

Only reason the comic was made for the Xbox 360 was to generate some extra money as a DLC piece and try to bring in new Xbox 360 owners to the series if they didn't play ME1 or didn't want to have to spend 20+ hours to finish the first game just to have stats carry over to ME 2.

Swiss Ultimate
03-07-2012, 08:17 PM
I meant like a paper comic. I just want to know how Shep went from where he was at the end of ME2 to now.

Emperor Smeat
03-07-2012, 08:20 PM
Oh in that case, yes there is one coming up although don't know the date.

Just checked and its supposed to come on April 4 and is called Mass Effect: Homeworlds.

ME: Invasion was the previous one that was a 4-part series and ended on January.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect#Comics

Captain of Fun
03-07-2012, 09:48 PM
Gonna wait till all the DLC is out before I get this.

Destor
03-08-2012, 12:15 AM
escaping from reaper ships and still getting all the loot is laughably simple

#BROKEN Hasney
03-08-2012, 01:41 AM
Even if you do et caught, just a simple resume and you're in that syste.

I do like that the Reapers are nice enough to wait for you to scan a planet and just wait inches away from you.

Fryza
03-08-2012, 06:35 AM
I am hoping I can hit the right parts for the stuff with Tali and the geth.

Otherwise I will go back to through all three games.

Also need to play some more multiplayer, really enjoying it. However, not fairing so hot by myself. Tend to get flanked a lot.

BigDaddyCool
03-08-2012, 08:05 AM
i wish I had time for video games now.

Tommy Gunn
03-08-2012, 08:24 AM
Getting this for Xbox 360 tomorrow! I've read about the importing glitch. Can I still import all of my decisions from the first 2 games? I don't mind rebuilding my Shepard's looks because I pretty much remember where all the sliders go.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-08-2012, 08:39 AM
Decisions mostly seem to be fine apart from some of mine from ME1 don't seem to have carried over. Not seen much else from anyone else apart from appearance.

Shaggy
03-08-2012, 02:05 PM
So based on my playthrough of the demo I figured my first playthrough was gonna be the action one.

Do you still make choices on that one? or is it a set path on your decisions from the other 2 games.

LoDownM
03-08-2012, 02:07 PM
End of game spoilers. Beware

I don't see how they are going to make more Mass Effect games, so far the 2 endings I've see, all the mass relays got destroyed. Unless they do a prequel series or something.

Gonzo
03-08-2012, 02:33 PM
End of game spoilers. Beware

I don't see how they are going to make more Mass Effect games, so far the 2 endings I've see, all the mass relays got destroyed. Unless they do a prequel series or something.

The whole game the Illusive Man is painted as an evil bastard that wants to control the Reapers. That's the paragon choice at the end!? That makes no fucking sense.

LoDownM
03-08-2012, 02:49 PM
Well, the Illusive Man wanted to control the reapers and use them to dominate the rest of the galaxy. Shepard makes them leave forever. Kinda different. Either way both endings sucked imo

Gonzo
03-08-2012, 03:34 PM
I'm honestly okay with the endings. I know a lot of people are upset but the only other direction it really goes is everyone holding hands and singing praises of victory at the end. And I think that would be pretty shitty and cliche. I give Bioware credit for at least trying to break standard convention.

Destor
03-08-2012, 05:41 PM
the game did not give me an option to play tactically or what ever...

Swiss Ultimate
03-08-2012, 06:18 PM
What do you mean by that Destor?

RoXer
03-08-2012, 07:28 PM
It's in the options.


Was it ever mentioned in previous ME games why all the aliens speak English (or whatever language the game is set to)? I feel like I remember learning about it in a codex entry but I'm not sure.

Requiem
03-08-2012, 07:46 PM
Yeah I think it says in a codex. Some sort of instant translator built into their omnitools or something.

Spoiler tags just in case someone (FA) hasn't played the games to that point
I assume the tech is Reaper technology so that the civilizations could get to a point where the Reapers could justify coming back and harvesting them

Gonzo
03-08-2012, 07:49 PM
the game did not give me an option to play tactically or what ever...

Pretty sure you pick it right up front when you start the game.

LoDownM
03-08-2012, 07:55 PM
It's in the options.


Was it ever mentioned in previous ME games why all the aliens speak English (or whatever language the game is set to)? I feel like I remember learning about it in a codex entry but I'm not sure.

I just assumed universal translators ala Star Trek.


Yeah I think it says in a codex. Some sort of instant translator built into their omnitools or something.

Spoiler tags just in case someone (FA) hasn't played the games to that point
I assume the tech is Reaper technology so that the civilizations could get to a point where the Reapers could justify coming back and harvesting them

That might be true. The Prothean in the DLC had to touch Shepard to understand the language. They could share knowledge with each other just by touch as he explained it.

So I dunno.

Verbose Minch
03-08-2012, 08:21 PM
All the aliens use translators. It's mentioned in the codex, it's also mentioned in the Shadow Broker DLC on Tali's profile.

Captain of Fun
03-08-2012, 08:26 PM
Did they come up with something better than mining for resources in this one?

Gonzo
03-08-2012, 09:09 PM
You still scan planets but it's a more stream lined process. Basically you fly the Normandy through a system and ping. Once your scans pick something up you fly to it, scan once, and retrieve the item. It's either a quest item, intel (which is used via a terminal on the Normandy for upgrades), or credits. It's a much better system. The system in ME2 was unnecessarily mundane.

Captain of Fun
03-08-2012, 09:38 PM
So it's basically like ME 1 without touching down on any planets?

Swiss Ultimate
03-09-2012, 09:32 AM
So finally got to the one mission we were talking about:

where Mordin dies. I wonder if I had lied to him if he'd have survived or just given up his life for nothing. Or what if I hadn't saved the genophage from the last game? Very curious. Also, are the Rachni in the game for people who didn't save them in ME1?

#BROKEN Hasney
03-09-2012, 09:35 AM
So finally got to the one mission we were talking about:

where Mordin dies. I wonder if I had lied to him if he'd have survived or just given up his life for nothing. Or what if I hadn't saved the genophage from the last game? Very curious. Also, are the Rachni in the game for people who didn't save them in ME1?

The genophage thing would happen anyway, not sure about Mordin if you lie to him.

I just want to know what in the hell happens if Mordin or any other key characters died at the end of ME2. I need to see this as well.

Rachni are still in the game as my stupid save says I killed them when I didn't. They just keep running around saying "BUT YOU KILLED THE LAST ONE SHEPARD!!!"

RoXer
03-09-2012, 12:51 PM
Omg Blasto 6

RoXer
03-09-2012, 12:52 PM
I don't know if I would rather see that or Elcors performing Shakespeare.

Speaking of which, haven't seen one Elcor yet

LoDownM
03-09-2012, 01:03 PM
So finally got to the one mission we were talking about:

where Mordin dies. I wonder if I had lied to him if he'd have survived or just given up his life for nothing. Or what if I hadn't saved the genophage from the last game? Very curious. Also, are the Rachni in the game for people who didn't save them in ME1?

The Rachni are in the game. But if you save the queen again, you only get drones for working on the Crucible.

ClockShot
03-09-2012, 02:33 PM
Not to spoil anything, but the DLC from ME2 has been paying off for me in dividends. Glad I bought it all.

Swiss Ultimate
03-09-2012, 03:38 PM
KATSUMI!!!!!

Tommy Gunn
03-09-2012, 05:24 PM
Bought it, getting ready to start it up, just waiting for the From Ashes DLC to download from Xbox Live. Goodbye entire weekend!

G
03-09-2012, 05:36 PM
Not to spoil anything, but the DLC from ME2 has been paying off for me in dividends. Glad I bought it all.

Would it spoil 3's story?

RoXer
03-09-2012, 06:08 PM
There's a system called "Skepsis" :|

Gonzo
03-09-2012, 09:44 PM
KATSUMI!!!!!

Didn't run into her in my play through of ME3. Have you?

Frank Drebin
03-10-2012, 03:37 AM
"Prothy the Prothean":rofl:

LoDownM
03-10-2012, 04:11 AM
Didn't run into her in my play through of ME3. Have you?

She's part of a quest early in the game. Starts with a salarian spectre by the spectre office I believe.

Fryza
03-10-2012, 06:12 AM
Got the Quarians to go for peace with the Geth. That is all I wanted to do. Galaxy can go fuck itself now. Fixed the genophage, brokered peace with the Turians and the Krogans, and now the three-hundred year-old war.

Fuck you Reapers, I win.

RoXer
03-10-2012, 03:13 PM
When they asked Javik if he had any knowledge on the weapon they were building, I was hoping he would say something along the lines of "That's not a weapon. You guys are building a giant statue of a Prothean phallus. What the hell is wrong with you people?"

RoXer
03-10-2012, 03:45 PM
badassfully

RoXer
03-11-2012, 12:49 AM
I have another question:

Where are the female Turians?

SlickyTrickyDamon
03-11-2012, 01:14 AM
Is there some sort of time limit to do Galaxy at War? Or can you do it independently from the story without having a Mass effect 2 "suicide mission"?

Swiss Ultimate
03-11-2012, 01:47 AM
Okay, just finished the entire game. Wow. Even with some of the glitches and moments where the game told my Xbox to fuck itself I have obsessively been playing this game for days now. Something like 34 hours and I did every side mission I could find (plus multiplayer). Not sure how my Readiness Level actually played out in the end but most of my galaxy was 94% and above and only because of multiplayer. Without multiplayer everything would probably have been in the 70s for me.


Long Rant with spoilers:
Was slightly confused at the end. I knew I wanted to kill the Reapers, but wasn't real sure of which side to go to. Chose the red side and just started shooting. After the credits my body twitches...and some really bad actors pretend they just told the story that I played. Shep becomes a legend...but I'm not entirely clear as to whether he killed the Geth as collateral damage. I didn't want the Geth to die.

Also weird, I took my Prothean friend along with Garrus with me on the final mission. Figured we had a shot at living and I really like both characters. Later, when Joker finds himself in the path of a relatively tiny beam of energy and crash lands on some pretty jungle planet, the Prothean comes out of the ship along with Tali (Shep's love interest)...I saw all these people on Earth. Why are they suddenly on the ship???

I love the game, but there are definitely some signs that it was rushed here and there. That said, this is the only game where the cut-scenes actually matter to me. The climactic space battle was pretty fucking awesome, as was the assault on Earth. For those of you who've been to or live in London, do all the doors have that weird green hologram thing on them?? Also, do people talk like Admiral Anderson in England? I didn't peg his accent as anything but American. :/ He even rolled his eyes to the side when he mentioned for the second time that he was born in London.

Next time I play the end mission I'm going to go ahead and choose synthesis. Wanna see if they do a weird Akira ending. I feel like him choosing anything at the end is a bit silly, how would he know if he was under Reaper control? The option to control the Reapers just seemed a bit too...I dunno...evil?

I love the game, it has a shit-ton of improvements and the combat was fun. In ME2 I just tried to get it over with so that I could get to the next scene. This time I enjoyed the strategy of it. Would really have hated shouting out my commands, however. Using the wheel to have multiple things done in the fraction of a second is pretty much essential for my play style. Fucked that Ninja Dude's shit right up thanks to coordinated Overloads.

Was hoping that my decision to kill the Reapers would ultimately end with Shep alive and back on the Normandy sailing off into the "sunset" ala Star Trek. Maybe if I choose one of the other endings I'll be able to do that???

Anyways...craaaazy.

LoDownM
03-11-2012, 01:52 AM
Okay, just finished the entire game. Wow. Even with some of the glitches and moments where the game told my Xbox to fuck itself I have obsessively been playing this game for days now. Something like 34 hours and I did every side mission I could find (plus multiplayer). Not sure how my Readiness Level actually played out in the end but most of my galaxy was 94% and above and only because of multiplayer. Without multiplayer everything would probably have been in the 70s for me.


Long Rant with spoilers:
Was slightly confused at the end. I knew I wanted to kill the Reapers, but wasn't real sure of which side to go to. Chose the red side and just started shooting. After the credits my body twitches...and some really bad actors pretend they just told the story that I played. Shep becomes a legend...but I'm not entirely clear as to whether he killed the Geth as collateral damage. I didn't want the Geth to die.

Also weird, I took my Prothean friend along with Garrus with me on the final mission. Figured we had a shot at living and I really like both characters. Later, when Joker finds himself in the path of a relatively tiny beam of energy and crash lands on some pretty jungle planet, the Prothean comes out of the ship along with Tali (Shep's love interest)...I saw all these people on Earth. Why are they suddenly on the ship???

I love the game, but there are definitely some signs that it was rushed here and there. That said, this is the only game where the cut-scenes actually matter to me. The climactic space battle was pretty fucking awesome, as was the assault on Earth. For those of you who've been to or live in London, do all the doors have that weird green hologram thing on them?? Also, do people talk like Admiral Anderson in England? I didn't peg his accent as anything but American. :/ He even rolled his eyes to the side when he mentioned for the second time that he was born in London.

Next time I play the end mission I'm going to go ahead and choose synthesis. Wanna see if they do a weird Akira ending. I feel like him choosing anything at the end is a bit silly, how would he know if he was under Reaper control? The option to control the Reapers just seemed a bit too...I dunno...evil?

I love the game, it has a shit-ton of improvements and the combat was fun. In ME2 I just tried to get it over with so that I could get to the next scene. This time I enjoyed the strategy of it. Would really have hated shouting out my commands, however. Using the wheel to have multiple things done in the fraction of a second is pretty much essential for my play style. Fucked that Ninja Dude's shit right up thanks to coordinated Overloads.

Was hoping that my decision to kill the Reapers would ultimately end with Shep alive and back on the Normandy sailing off into the "sunset" ala Star Trek. Maybe if I choose one of the other endings I'll be able to do that???

Anyways...craaaazy.


That was Buzz Aldrin at the end, not just some terrible voice actor Bioware picked up btw.

Swiss Ultimate
03-11-2012, 03:01 AM
He needs acting lessons.

Swiss Ultimate
03-11-2012, 03:02 AM
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#BROKEN Hasney
03-11-2012, 06:26 AM
Both endings are the same so don't waste your time on it.

There is a "perfect" ending with 30 seconds of extra cutscene in which:

After you see the fee crash land, a camera pans over somewhere and you see Shepards body and dog tags... Then you see a gasp for air and the credits hit

With the DLC they have planned, it's likely that this isn't the real ending. Some of the devs say they have some crazy shit planned, but I don't know. I don't want the big cheery ending. Hated the ending because you don't know what happens to the crew so there's no closure there really. The aliens on your crew must have been pissed off, but who knows?

The Destroyer
03-11-2012, 10:22 AM
Liking this so far, but I'm really not looking forward to the end, what with all the pissing and moaning I've heard about it. I can't help feel they've shot themselves in the foot character wise because of ME2 though...

The whole "anyone can die!" element of the suicide mission in that game pretty much means most of the squad from that game is limited to fairly minor "I'll join you, but not in any important way" roles or the likes of Thane or Miranda, who just don't join you at all. No point making huge roles for characters when they could easily have died in someone's playthrough, I guess.

G
03-11-2012, 10:57 AM
I think I went too far with my "romance". Spoiler, I guess, "just in case"

I was trying to do the nasty with Cortez, but I ended up kissing Liara on the Citadel. Does that mean my Cortez fantasy has been locked out? He is hanging by the bar (putting out the vibe) waiting for me to talk, but the option to click on him doesn't come up.

RoXer
03-11-2012, 11:24 AM
Yup probably.

I'm a one woman kind of man unlike some of you deviants so I've been waiting for Ashley to be romanced but she hasn't yet and I think I'm near the end. Ive turned down everything that comes my way, reporters, aliens, gay dudes, doesn't matter. I'm staying faithful.

The old yeoman killed herself when I told her I was upset with her. Oops. I wasn't really that mad but I wasn't going to let her off easy. Oh well.

G
03-11-2012, 11:37 AM
I'm sure you already know, but here is how it's done. Spoiler, I guess, "just in case"


Ashley



Prerequisite: She must survive the events of ME1.
After the early events of the game (http://www.gamefront.com/games), Ashley will spend time in the Huerta Memorial Hospital. Visit her between missions, choosing Paragon responses (Upper!) to show her interest.
Old romances from ME1 can be rekindled, or new Male Shepards can start fresh.
During the early conversations before her injury, make sure to choose the Paragon options as well.
Even when she’s unconscious in the Citadel, visit her and offer some kind words anyway. While there, you can purchase a special item, a Tennyson Collection, at the store terminal in the hospital lobby. You may have to wait until she’s awake to purchase and gift the special item.
Visit her; during your first trip to the Citadel, after the mission on Palaven, and a third time before finishing the Tuchanka missions. Afterwards, she’ll be ready to rejoin you.
After Tuchanka, and during the mission in the Citadel, you’ll want your trust high enough so Ashley will side with you during the ending confrontation.
If you were in another relationship in ME2, you’ll need to apologize and confirm that you’re interested in Ashley.
After she joins again, eventually she’ll offer to meet at the Presidium Commons. If she doesn’t push for a serious relationship, you can. With that, you’ll be well on your way to sealing the deal.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-11-2012, 12:05 PM
Prerequisite: She must survive the events of ME1.

Shame. I was hoping you could romance her without that fact.

RoXer
03-11-2012, 12:17 PM
Yeah I looked all that up after I posted.

I figured you would be able to sex her up before you get to the end, I was just getting worried because I (think) am almost there and she ain't lettin me put the moves on herPrerequisite: She must survive the events of ME1.

Shame. I was hoping you could romance her without that fact.

I know

Swiss Ultimate
03-11-2012, 12:35 PM
Let's pretend the Hitler videos are new and enjoy this.


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Also, since it looks like EDI survives I think I'm going to redo the ending with the synthesis version. I'm fairly certain I kill EDI, the Geth etc. if I don't do it this way.

ClockShot
03-11-2012, 01:08 PM
Lost Mordin this morning. Brought a tear to my eye, but it was he way he wanted to go out. Didn't send him to his death like Kaidan. :'(

Has anybody tried the online portion of the game yet? I mean, I got all the systems at 50%. I'm wondering if will that number go up in the story, or is it online only and fluctuate each time to start up the game?

Swiss Ultimate
03-11-2012, 01:18 PM
You need to play multiplayer to get them to 100%.

Tommy Gunn
03-11-2012, 02:50 PM
How much multiplayer are we talking? A couple of hours of hard work or several days grinding?

ClockShot
03-11-2012, 02:57 PM
Dunno. Wandering around some gaming sites and everyone is in an uproar that Bioware said you can get all the achievements without having to step into online.

Either they lied or I'm not doing something right.

LoDownM
03-11-2012, 03:09 PM
There's only 2 you can't get without the online mode. Not a huge deal.

Frank Drebin
03-11-2012, 07:40 PM
Long Rant with spoilers:

Was slightly confused at the end. I knew I wanted to kill the Reapers, but wasn't real sure of which side to go to. Chose the red side and just started shooting. After the credits my body twitches...and some really bad actors pretend they just told the story that I played. Shep becomes a legend...but I'm not entirely clear as to whether he killed the Geth as collateral damage. I didn't want the Geth to die.

Also weird, I took my Prothean friend along with Garrus with me on the final mission. Figured we had a shot at living and I really like both characters. Later, when Joker finds himself in the path of a relatively tiny beam of energy and crash lands on some pretty jungle planet, the Prothean comes out of the ship along with Tali (Shep's love interest)...I saw all these people on Earth. Why are they suddenly on the ship???

I love the game, but there are definitely some signs that it was rushed here and there. That said, this is the only game where the cut-scenes actually matter to me. The climactic space battle was pretty fucking awesome, as was the assault on Earth. For those of you who've been to or live in London, do all the doors have that weird green hologram thing on them?? Also, do people talk like Admiral Anderson in England? I didn't peg his accent as anything but American. :/ He even rolled his eyes to the side when he mentioned for the second time that he was born in London.

Next time I play the end mission I'm going to go ahead and choose synthesis. Wanna see if they do a weird Akira ending. I feel like him choosing anything at the end is a bit silly, how would he know if he was under Reaper control? The option to control the Reapers just seemed a bit too...I dunno...evil?

I love the game, it has a shit-ton of improvements and the combat was fun. In ME2 I just tried to get it over with so that I could get to the next scene. This time I enjoyed the strategy of it. Would really have hated shouting out my commands, however. Using the wheel to have multiple things done in the fraction of a second is pretty much essential for my play style. Fucked that Ninja Dude's shit right up thanks to coordinated Overloads.

Was hoping that my decision to kill the Reapers would ultimately end with Shep alive and back on the Normandy sailing off into the "sunset" ala Star Trek. Maybe if I choose one of the other endings I'll be able to do that???

Anyways...craaaazy.

Finished it this morning and took some time to think about it.

I agree with D2TS in that the combat was fun. Very fun. Cant say enough about how great the whole thing was, especially when it came to enemy AI. You're never going to make it perfect, but giving them survival instincts and flanking manuevers was pretty cool.

The story was about as well done as you could have asked for up until the ending which Ill get to in a moment. It added the proper gravity to the final chapter of games which are as large scale as a game has ever tried been.

The ending.....sucked. So, after all the decisions we have made over the span of three games (five years in real time), none of it really mattered?!? When it comes to the actual ending it never really mattered if I killed the Rachni Queen, killed Wrex, who I romanced, sold Legion to Cerberus, etc. Ill play through with my renegade Shep soon and while I'm sure to find discrepancies, its this that ruins it for me. Not to mention all the endings to each final choice are almost excactly the same. The good thing about that is it tells me that DLC is in the works that might clear the air on this, which works for me (save for the wait) but will piss alot of people off.

Until then, 3 or 4 of my crew (out of all the characters in the game I encountered) who magically made it back to the Normandy after the final battle are stranded in a jungle on a planet that may or may not be in this galaxy never to be able to rebuild society due to a lack of populace, and I am left hoping that the breath Shep *might* take at the end is him waking up and realizing the last 20 mins of the game was all just a dream. Yes, thats what I'm hoping for because the ending sucked that bad to me.

Swiss Ultimate
03-11-2012, 08:16 PM
How much multiplayer are we talking? A couple of hours of hard work or several days grinding?

To max out readiness? Maybe 4-6 hours as long as you win 90% of the time...I could be off drastically though. I played multiplayer for fun myself. I don't think it'd be several days though...


Dunno. Wandering around some gaming sites and everyone is in an uproar that Bioware said you can get all the achievements without having to step into online.

Either they lied or I'm not doing something right.

What LoDown said, although, it seems like multiplayer is important for galactic readiness.

There's only 2 you can't get without the online mode. Not a huge deal.

Yeah.

Finished it this morning and took some time to think about it.

I agree with D2TS in that the combat was fun. Very fun. Cant say enough about how great the whole thing was, especially when it came to enemy AI. You're never going to make it perfect, but giving them survival instincts and flanking manuevers was pretty cool.

The story was about as well done as you could have asked for up until the ending which Ill get to in a moment. It added the proper gravity to the final chapter of games which are as large scale as a game has ever tried been.

The ending.....sucked. So, after all the decisions we have made over the span of three games (five years in real time), none of it really mattered?!? When it comes to the actual ending it never really mattered if I killed the Rachni Queen, killed Wrex, who I romanced, sold Legion to Cerberus, etc. Ill play through with my renegade Shep soon and while I'm sure to find discrepancies, its this that ruins it for me. Not to mention all the endings to each final choice are almost excactly the same. The good thing about that is it tells me that DLC is in the works that might clear the air on this, which works for me (save for the wait) but will piss alot of people off.

Until then, 3 or 4 of my crew (out of all the characters in the game I encountered) who magically made it back to the Normandy after the final battle are stranded in a jungle on a planet that may or may not be in this galaxy never to be able to rebuild society due to a lack of populace, and I am left hoping that the breath Shep *might* take at the end is him waking up and realizing the last 20 mins of the game was all just a dream. Yes, thats what I'm hoping for because the ending sucked that bad to me.

I hope so too. I don't mind my ending, it makes sense for the character I was playing. My Shep was pretty much a boyscout. However, I couldn't imagine a renegade Shep doing those things.

Frank Drebin
03-11-2012, 08:52 PM
I just watched the Hitler vid, DTTS. Its dead on with how I feel right now.

Swiss Ultimate
03-11-2012, 10:09 PM
I figured Tali and Shep would have dirty hot sex on the Quarian homeworld at least once.

Emperor Smeat
03-11-2012, 10:57 PM
Some new info regarding the "From Ashes" DLC pack since it provides about 30-40 minutes of extra playing time but is also heavily padded in file size.

The pack itself is around 628MB in size but based on people who hacked the PC version of the game, its real size is around 6MB. The rest is just padding or repeated files to make people think not everything was actually on the disc. Also confirmed to be just a few voices and dialog files for the extra member of the crew.

Swiss Ultimate
03-11-2012, 11:01 PM
Weird. Maybe it's a patch as well or is it confirmed that the majority of it is just junk?

Gonzo
03-12-2012, 03:32 AM
If anyone is on PC and wants to play multiplayer I have a couple other friends I play with most nights. PM me and we can get you in as our 4th. We use Skype while we play over the in game voip.

Tommy Gunn
03-12-2012, 08:23 AM
I tried multiplayer and it was quite fun actually, so when you max out your galaxy at war stats, is that forever on your save file? You can use the war assets earned in any subsequent single player run-throughs?

#BROKEN Hasney
03-12-2012, 10:19 AM
Ending shizz

The theory that's flying about that I want to believe is that everything after the reaper hits you is a hallucination. It makes sense, both endings are the same anyway and once you get the perfect ending, Shepard is seen to breathe in the rubble of London.

I say wanting to believe, but that is only from a creative standpoint. If they royally fucked up that ending purely to get extra DLC bucks with DLC that changes the ending will be utter bullshit and I'll watch it on YouTube rather than pay for their shitty money grab.

Frank Drebin
03-12-2012, 11:06 AM
Ending shizz

The theory that's flying about that I want to believe is that everything after the reaper hits you is a hallucination. It makes sense, both endings are the same anyway and once you get the perfect ending, Shepard is seen to breathe in the rubble of London.

I say wanting to believe, but that is only from a creative standpoint. If they royally fucked up that ending purely to get extra DLC bucks with DLC that changes the ending will be utter bullshit and I'll watch it on YouTube rather than pay for their shitty money grab.

You know thats what this is about.

I'm gonna be a sucka and buy it though. If it gives an ending to my shep I have to get it. Thats why this ending sucked. Not just all the plotholes, but the fact that it didnt matter what I did. If thats their plan, they need to get this out soon before people stop caring and write this waste of time off as a loss.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-12-2012, 11:18 AM
Mildest spoiler you can imagine about the last mission, but I've annoyed people for pointing out mundane shit before, so I'll be nice.

I do love how everything is wrecked in London apart from Big Ben so you can say "OH SHIT, IT IS LONDON

Swiss Ultimate
03-12-2012, 11:48 AM
I tried multiplayer and it was quite fun actually, so when you max out your galaxy at war stats, is that forever on your save file? You can use the war assets earned in any subsequent single player run-throughs?

I think so. Which is convenient.

Ending shizz

The theory that's flying about that I want to believe is that everything after the reaper hits you is a hallucination. It makes sense, both endings are the same anyway and once you get the perfect ending, Shepard is seen to breathe in the rubble of London.

I say wanting to believe, but that is only from a creative standpoint. If they royally fucked up that ending purely to get extra DLC bucks with DLC that changes the ending will be utter bullshit and I'll watch it on YouTube rather than pay for their shitty money grab.

I'm going to buy the DLC no matter what. Guessing there will be some DLC regarding:

Omega. I mean come on, we don't get to see the Asari Godmother VS. Cerberus?

As for the theory that it's all just a dream, it's a rather specific dream to have. My problem with this, however, is that I assumed he was still on the citadel when his body convulsed at the end. Rubble is rubble, after all. I would be okay with this ending being real minus the stupid Normandy crashing on a distant planet, hope that's just bullshit since it makes no sense at all. I just want my decisions to have mattered for something and I have gotten the feeling that many of my decisions didn't matter at all. Killed Wrex? Pretty sure the other dude would have been there. Killed the Racchni? Don't worry, you didn't kill all of them. Brain-washed the Geth heretics? Oh...well, the Reapers brain-washed them back, and no matter what you did the Quarians are going to start a fucking war while the Reapers destroy the Galaxy...

Fryza
03-12-2012, 04:00 PM
Pretty sure everyone on the Citadel is dead, which Aria was on.

Kane Knight
03-12-2012, 04:52 PM
Weird. Maybe it's a patch as well or is it confirmed that the majority of it is just junk?

Considering the statement that Bioware made is already half-false considering how much of the stuff is on-disc, I'd say it's probably not a patch.

Ending shizz

I'm not sure I've ever seen this much posthumous epileptic tree-ing before. It's kinda fun, actually. It's still just conspiracy theories by fans looking desperately to embrace something other than what they've been given, but hey....

This'll tide me over until the next 3 seconds of GTA footage leads to the next 40,000 points of speculation.

Swiss Ultimate
03-12-2012, 06:20 PM
Pretty sure everyone on the Citadel is dead, which Aria was on.

I find it hard to believe actually.

Someone had to survive or escape.

Swiss Ultimate
03-12-2012, 07:40 PM
http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-nwXkCmJ/0/L/i-nwXkCmJ-XL.jpg

Fryza
03-13-2012, 02:26 AM
I find it hard to believe actually.

Someone had to survive or escape.

In the synthesis ending, the Citadel does explode. On top of that, the halls are a literal bloody mess. It's also likely Reaper forces were on the Citadel when it was moved.

I hope not everyone died, but I think it could easily be assumed they did.

Swiss Ultimate
03-13-2012, 02:48 AM
I get that the Reapers are the baddest motherfuckers on the planet, but before as I've seen from cut-scenes as well as play, they're not perfect. If the Alliance could survive for weeks after the initial invasion assault, Capt. Bailey and friends could have organized a retreat. Look at who was on the Citadel before Shep went on his mission: Aria, Zaeed, Bailey, shit-tons of Krogan, Turians, Batarians and refugees from all over the Galaxy not to mention Alliance forces, Council forces, Mercs. I'm not saying they'd win against a full assault by the Reapers, but they should at least put up a decent fight.

We'll know eventually what happened. Hoping it'll be DLC or something where it'll allow you to play as Aria or Zaeed or someone interesting. Would be an interesting story as far as the mobster teaming up with the "Chief of Police" along with the world's most angry merc.

Fryza
03-13-2012, 03:07 AM
Really hope so.

Swiss Ultimate
03-13-2012, 03:19 AM
I have to wonder what kind of ending people would have been happy with. My issue with my ending isn't that it wasn't good, I thought it was very good. I just wish my decisions mattered. If I had gotten this exact ending because of things I did in ME2 I would be satisfied and there would be a lot more replay value.

Still enjoying the multiplayer though. Played it all night.

LoDownM
03-13-2012, 04:44 AM
I would've like my decisions in past games to matter more, seems like the only the ones that matter in the slightest is weather or not Ashely or Kaiden died in ME1 and how you handled Tali's loyalty mission in ME2.

As for the ending sucking. It's not so much that it sucked, as it is there isn't any closure. It's supposed to be the end of Shepard's story/series. They could've done some text summaries ala Dragon Age to explain what happens to your companions/rest of the galaxy with the mass relays getting destroyed regardless of your ending, it would be nice to now what happens with the other species in the galaxy.

Swiss Ultimate
03-13-2012, 04:51 AM
They're fucked. A lot of their best military minds are stuck floating around Earth.

LoDownM
03-13-2012, 05:07 AM
Well, they still have FTL drives. But without the instantness of the mass relays. It'll take years for them to get back. Which, while minor, is something I wanna know about

G
03-13-2012, 07:54 AM
Regarding the Cerberus Headquarters mission and end game content.

The info for this says that when you start, you are fully commited to fighting the Reapers. Does this mean I will no longer be able to do side quests and shit, because it's the start of the final missions? If I go through with it and beat the game (I presume), do all the side quests go away? What is left to do? Harvest planets?

Kane Knight
03-13-2012, 08:20 AM
I have to wonder what kind of ending people would have been happy with.

Probably one that didn't involve Deus Ex Machina pulled from dark orifices at the last minute. And one that made sense.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-13-2012, 08:28 AM
I'd probably have web happier of Shepard reached over and unmasked the Ghost VI kid to reveal Old Man Jenkins who would have gotten away with it all if it hadn't been for us pesky kids

Kane Knight
03-13-2012, 08:30 AM
Damn right that needed spoilers.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-13-2012, 08:30 AM
Regarding the Cerberus Headquarters mission and end game content.

The info for this says that when you start, you are fully commited to fighting the Reapers. Does this mean I will no longer be able to do side quests and shit, because it's the start of the final missions? If I go through with it and beat the game (I presume), do all the side quests go away? What is left to do? Harvest planets?


Once you finish, you get dumped right back before that mission so you can do all the missed side quests if you fancy it

#BROKEN Hasney
03-13-2012, 08:32 AM
Damn right that needed spoilers.

I was being nice as I remember some people getting upset when I revealed that you could be drunk in GTA4 before the game came out as a spoiler.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-13-2012, 08:34 AM
Just remembered that was just Fangry. Fuck it then.

Kane Knight
03-13-2012, 08:36 AM
Just remembered that was just Fangry. Fuck it then.

Mary got pissed about a spoiler that isn't a spoiler?

Kane Knight
03-13-2012, 10:14 AM
http://cdn.themis-media.com/media/global/images/library/deriv/85/85327.jpg

Frank Drebin
03-13-2012, 12:26 PM
I have to wonder what kind of ending people would have been happy with. My issue with my ending isn't that it wasn't good, I thought it was very good. I just wish my decisions mattered. If I had gotten this exact ending because of things I did in ME2 I would be satisfied and there would be a lot more replay value.

Still enjoying the multiplayer though. Played it all night.


The two words that describe my disappointment in the ending are choices and closure. The vid DTTS posted on the last page perfectly sums up my thoughts. The choices never matter and you get no closure to this wonderfully drawn narrative.

Think about the Rock/Cena match at Mainia or go back to Punk/Cena at Money in the Bank. Take the insane time build to Cena/Rock and combine it with you being pulled into the story like Punk/Cena and the anticipation you would have for it. Now give that match the same outcome as Jeff Hardy/Sting with no mention of it the next night on Raw. “That’s it, kiddies!” How does it feel? Like you just got kicked in the balls by a stallion race horse, and its gonna take some recovery time.

The comic posted about the stages of grief are hilarious too. I keep hoping that they’re trolling us Jericho style, just waiting 1 or 2 months for us to go from cheering to booing so they can tell us that we have all been indoctrinated at the end just like Shep. The odd thing is that there are a lot of loose ends that play into this theory which, if true, would be just too sweet. Anyone ever get why Vega was always hearing humming? No boss battle? Shep can only survive if you pick what is presented as the renegade choice? In any case, it seems so hard to believe that after having the recipe for success that this is what we got since it deviated so far from what they did in the past. Unless this theory is the case – I’m done. Not joining any petition, not following anyone on twitter, not buying anymore content, no multiplayer, not doing another playthrough. Done.

Look, I’m happy for you if you liked the ending, thought it was artsy or whatever. All I can say is that there are people out there who saw Catwoman in the theater, then went and bought it when it came out on DVD because they legitimately thought it was a great movie. You might not have known it, but you just bought Catwoman.

Fryza
03-13-2012, 04:16 PM
I have to wonder what kind of ending people would have been happy with. My issue with my ending isn't that it wasn't good, I thought it was very good. I just wish my decisions mattered. If I had gotten this exact ending because of things I did in ME2 I would be satisfied and there would be a lot more replay value.

Still enjoying the multiplayer though. Played it all night.

Honestly hoping the 'Crucible' was just what they thought it was, a deus ex machina. Really kind of wanted a literal happy ending.

One of those, Shepard deserves an ending that doesn't end with him being shot, stabbed, or blown up.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-13-2012, 04:56 PM
I don't want a happy ending, I want a non-rushed ending with closure about the surviving crew.

I witnessed a girl having a nervous breakdown playing it who liked the ending and as much as she wanted to skip off with her love at the end, she knew it was time for her to go.

She cried thought the whole game it seems.

Swiss Ultimate
03-13-2012, 05:18 PM
You can't please everyone and in this case it seems Bioware pleased no one with their three generic endings.

I think people might have been cool with the choice of three if it had felt like we accomplished something. The last fire-fight was crazy and it took a lot for me to get through it alive. We defeated a Reaper in the process, but it didn't feel like we got the boss battle we were expecting. If we had gotten the choices as a reward for destroying Super Reaper or some shit, some people wouldn't be so annoyed right now.

Regardless, there are a ton of unhappy people who are unhappy for very different reasons. It makes me wonder if anyone during the project raised there hand and asked, "This isn't the real ending...is it?"

Emperor Smeat
03-13-2012, 05:21 PM
Multiplayer DLC is on its way although not other details in regards to price, release date, or info besides it containing new classes based on a leaked image.

The image (above) shows a new multiplayer unlock pack containing a bunch of new classes. The new classes include a Geth Engineer, Geth Infiltrator, Batarian Soldier, Batarian Sentinel, Krogan Battlemaster and Asari Justicar.

http://www.egmnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Mass-Effect-3-DLC.png

Probably going to be a matter of time until someone tries to find out if this one is also on the disc depending once all the details get revealed.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/mass-effect-3-multiplayer-dlc-spotted/

Swiss Ultimate
03-13-2012, 05:35 PM
I have promoted two multiplayer characters to the "front lines" now.

G
03-13-2012, 05:40 PM
How and where do you promote them?

RoXer
03-13-2012, 06:11 PM
It's like prestiging. You get characters up to level 20 and then just press X. 20 is the cap.

Kane Knight
03-13-2012, 07:09 PM
I don't want a happy ending, I want a non-rushed ending with closure about the surviving crew.

Howabout one where Bioware kept up with their claims? I mean, they were talking multiple, fluid endings to the series.

This is bordering on Peter Molyneux syndrome, and that's before plot holes you can drive the Normandy through.

Having not purchased the game, I don't feel "ripped off," per se, but that's a pretty lousy ending to a series that was supposed to be all about choices and shit.

Gonzo
03-13-2012, 07:57 PM
I didn't have a problem with the endings in the most basic sense. To me, the series has been building towards an ultimate showdown with the Reapers and throughout the story it has been painted as next to impossible to achieve victory. The choices at the end amount to making a hard choice in order to achieve that victory.

That being said, I think the various endings do leave something to be desired. Like others have said we're left to draw conclusions or speculate as to what happened to characters at the end. As has also been pointed out there are some continuity issues with choices that carried over from previous titles.

I'm alright with the direction that the game was taken because I can live without the cliche "everyone survives even though the chances of winning in the first place were slim to none" ending. I think it could have been done better though.

RoXer
03-13-2012, 08:58 PM
Does anyone wanna play with me and G in 30?

Swiss Ultimate
03-13-2012, 09:03 PM
You have XBOX live or PS3?

RoXer
03-13-2012, 09:07 PM
I'm on your friends list, doofus

Swiss Ultimate
03-13-2012, 09:15 PM
Did you accept my friend request?

Oh and...

http://www.gamerzines.com/xbox/news-xbox/mass-effect-3-saves.html
Hang on to those Mass Effect 3 (http://www.gamerzines.com/games/mass-effect-3) saves once you’re done, folks – BioWare may have plans to make use of them in the future.
“It wouldn’t be a bad idea (to keep your ME3 saves)” said Associate Producer Mike Gamble talking to GamerZinest last week. “Obviously I can’t say anything, but it wouldn’t be a bad idea…”
Mass Effect 2 and 3 both use save states from the games prior to determine the player’s previous actions and use them to help shape the story.
Could a future Mass Effect game be affected by the decisions you make in Mass Effect 3?
Mass Effect 3 is the last game in the Shepard trilogy, but BioWare hasn’t ruled out the option to return to the Mass Effect universe in the future.
As for Shepard’s send-off, Gamble says that it has to leave players satisfied.
“We want the outcomes to be satisfying to the player. That doesn’t necessarily mean they’re all going to be happy or positive, but they have to be satisfying. Players have to understand that the choices they’ve been making in this game and in previous have had an impact, and that they’re an architect in what happens.”

RoXer
03-13-2012, 09:17 PM
Did you accept my friend request?



Yes. I'm on it. I've sent you messages and invites.

Swiss Ultimate
03-13-2012, 09:24 PM
will see if my daughter doesn't cry when I log on, lol.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-14-2012, 04:27 AM
Howabout one where Bioware kept up with their claims? I mean, they were talking multiple, fluid endings to the series.

This is bordering on Peter Molyneux syndrome, and that's before plot holes you can drive the Normandy through.

Having not purchased the game, I don't feel "ripped off," per se, but that's a pretty lousy ending to a series that was supposed to be all about choices and shit.

How dare you, both endings that come from one single choice at the end are very different.

The main plot was always fucked, I just looked at it like big black robots to kill, oh well. All the time the subplots, attachment to the crew and quite well executed interspecies politics kept me coming back.

The thing with Molyneux is that when his games were good, most of the ideas he had that never made it in were superficial anyway. He loved talking about things they were probably trying, but was way too early as they didn't even know if it was possible now. Bioware have basically lied about a very fundamental aspect to the game and even through doing that, if the ending had any closure in at all after a game I found an immense amount of joy in up until that point, I probably would have just thought "oh you Bioware, you lying little toerags. I'll let you off this time!".

But no. We got what I am assuming is the deadline ending no matter if they do DLC the ending or not.

Obviously this "save your save111!!1" is making me think DLC ending even more, but they could make a Mass Effect 4 that a Miranda that's been reconstructed by Jacob reconstructs Shepard one... more... time....

Then we find out that Desmond ruined this series too by looking at the events through an Animus in 4156.

G
03-14-2012, 01:08 PM
I dunno. After watching the endings it makes me glad I didn't waste a lot of time and aggravation trying to get a perfect playthrough. Only went in with all theaters at 52%. Not sure what would've changed if they were at 100%. Am happy though that I now get to attack some others games on my shelf.

Kane Knight
03-14-2012, 04:16 PM
How dare you, both endings that come from one single choice at the end are very different.

Yeah, one's blue and one's red. :shifty:

The main plot was always fucked, I just looked at it like big black robots to kill, oh well. All the time the subplots, attachment to the crew and quite well executed interspecies politics kept me coming back.

The main plot was pretty good in the first one. It was still heavily reminiscent of a dozen other movies/novels/whatever, but it was constructed pretty well. Honestly, I only thought the plot went down the shitter somewhere in the second game.

I think a good chunk of that was the lack of Drew Karpyshyn. And yeah, I know he was a writer in ME2, but he was no longer the writer. The series was hackneyed, but still lovingly crafted. Similarly, his novels were some of the best game books ever. The novels were awesome right up until someone else started writing them, then down the crapper.

The thing with Molyneux is that when his games were good, most of the ideas he had that never made it in were superficial anyway. He loved talking about things they were probably trying, but was way too early as they didn't even know if it was possible now.

I don't buy that. He promised the moon on pretty much every front.

Bioware have basically lied about a very fundamental aspect to the game and even through doing that, if the ending had any closure in at all after a game I found an immense amount of joy in up until that point, I probably would have just thought "oh you Bioware, you lying little toerags. I'll let you off this time!".Promising dynamic endings doesn't seem that much different than what Molyneux did during the Fable series.

But no. We got what I am assuming is the deadline ending no matter if they do DLC the ending or not.

The current "story" going around the web based on cracked files on the disc and whatnot is that they scrapped the original ending and threw this one together. I'm not sure if that counts as a "deadline" ending in this case, but there you have "it."

Obviously this "save your save111!!1" is making me think DLC ending even more, but they could make a Mass Effect 4 that a Miranda that's been reconstructed by Jacob reconstructs Shepard one... more... time....

Well, based on what they were saying prior, one could safely assume that there would be more games, thought Shep's story is supposed to be over. Then again, considering they lied about the ending, Shep's fate is slightly indeterminate, and the ending kind of wipes out a lot of the choices you made, it's possible this is no longer a meaningful deal.

I'm pretty sure, even after their recent complaints that DLC six months down the line is worthless, we will see some. I'm only skeptical on the point of the saves being a big thing.

Then we find out that Desmond ruined this series too by looking at the events through an Animus in 4156.

God, we master artificial intelligence, and we still can't give Desmond a personality.

Verbose Minch
03-15-2012, 12:03 AM
So I chose to destroy the Reapers. Does Shepard survive in the other endings as well or just that one?

RoXer
03-15-2012, 12:24 AM
Pretty good article about the ending:

http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

Swiss Ultimate
03-15-2012, 12:41 AM
So I chose to destroy the Reapers. Does Shepard survive in the other endings as well or just that one?

I think so. However, I redid it as Synthesis so that Joker and EDI could have more sex. Also, I enjoyed the original Star Trek movie...

G
03-15-2012, 06:48 AM
Pretty good article about the ending:

http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right/

Ha, I actually read that yesterday after I beat it.

G
03-15-2012, 07:54 AM
Pos rep him and see how many dots he can get.

Kane Knight
03-15-2012, 09:11 AM
I think so. However, I redid it as Synthesis so that Joker and EDI could have more sex. Also, I enjoyed the original Star Trek movie...

Oh, so you're the one.

RoXer
03-15-2012, 12:53 PM
There's no way around it, the ending was bad. I can't honestly think of anything to point out (complain about) that hasn't been addressed by articles or other message boards.

The problem I had is that none of those 3 choices at the end were in line of what my Shepard would have chose. My Shepard was sympathetic toward the Geth and believed every race deserved a chance so he wouldn't have done the Paragon route of destroying all sentient life which included the Geth, EDI, and I dunno, some advanced ipads maybe. He wouldn't have gone the Renegade route by controlling them because he was always against that and never believed it could work. And then I guess the 3rd option only unlocks if you meet certain criteria which I met but I still decided against it because that ending wouldn't have made much sense either.

It's hard to imagine any one person's Shepard to be comfortable with one of the three choices at the end, to be honest. Actually, doesn't it seem like the Paragon and Renegade endings should be switched here? If you go full Paragon, doesn't it make more sense to choose the Renegade ending and control the reapers and let every species live? If you go full Renegade, doesn't it make more sense if you choose the Paragon ending by wiping out synthetic life (which you presumably didn't enjoy in the first place if you were a Renegade) and allowing the advanced species to prosper?

Or do I have the endings backwards in the first place? Because here is a video that shows all of the endings. The top (Red) are destroy while the middle (Blue) are control. I was always under the impression that blue was Paragon/destroy and Red was Renegade/control.

I chose Paragon/destroy (at least I thought I did) and ended up with a blue ending.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rPelM2hwhJA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://i.imgur.com/HjzGQ.png

I actually don't mind the relays being destroyed no matter what outcome was chosen. It's sad, sure, but it's a finite ending to the series. Whereas the jungle scene is... odd. Apparently Joker is supposed to land with your love interest (Ashley in my case) and a member of your squad that helped you in the final mission. I was too busy wondering if Joker and Ash were symbolic of a new age sci-fi Adam and Eve (Ashley (woman) was created by sucking the essence of Joker's (man) bones (extra rib)) on whateverthefuck planet this was to notice anything else but I do think I remember Javik coming out of the shuttle too. I'm not sure.

The Javik situation is a fucking mess too. I was going to wait and actually play him before I bitched about it and now that I've finished it, there's no fucking way he is "additional" content. That shit is on disc and they locked it just to get more money out of me, those bastards. They knew exactly what they were doing to me and I knew it too as I was purchasing it.

But I'm not purchasing a DLC ending. That's where I draw the line. Unless, you know, the DLC is something ridiculous like 20 different possible outcomes. Then... I dunno...ask me about it when/if that happens :shifty:

When Shepard got knocked out by the laser, I thought he was dead. When Anderson explicitly said "I'm crossing over to the other side" when he was inside the Citidel and Shepard responded with "Don't go without me" I was so sure that Shep was in heaven or some religious afterlife and it would end with him there. And then from there, the situation and ending that plays out in my head is better than what the actual ending was. Hell, I've read a handful of fan endings that were WAY better than we got.

The ending is bad. What a shame.

RoXer
03-15-2012, 01:06 PM
When they asked Javik if he had any knowledge on the weapon they were building, I was hoping he would say something along the lines of "That's not a weapon. You guys are building a giant statue of a Prothean phallus. What the hell is wrong with you people?"
You know... if you think about it... when the Crucible shed it's excess "plating"... and touched the Citidel with it's tip...I mean... that's kind of what happened...

RoXer
03-15-2012, 01:09 PM
And lastly, here's this:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/467pmIX-oZo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


I'm probably going to go play this one more time to enjoy the cutscenes and turn my speakers up to full blast. Gunna choose the green ending too. And then never play again.

G
03-15-2012, 01:15 PM
that last bit where it focused on the marauder shields bar, it got an irl lol from me.

G
03-15-2012, 01:16 PM
There's no way around it, the ending was bad. I can't honestly think of anything to point out (complain about) that hasn't been addressed by articles or other message boards.

The problem I had is that none of those 3 choices at the end were in line of what my Shepard would have chose. My Shepard was sympathetic toward the Geth and believed every race deserved a chance so he wouldn't have done the Paragon route of destroying all sentient life which included the Geth, EDI, and I dunno, some advanced ipads maybe. He wouldn't have gone the Renegade route by controlling them because he was always against that and never believed it could work. And then I guess the 3rd option only unlocks if you meet certain criteria which I met but I still decided against it because that ending wouldn't have made much sense either.

It's hard to imagine any one person's Shepard to be comfortable with one of the three choices at the end, to be honest. Actually, doesn't it seem like the Paragon and Renegade endings should be switched here? If you go full Paragon, doesn't it make more sense to choose the Renegade ending and control the reapers and let every species live? If you go full Renegade, doesn't it make more sense if you choose the Paragon ending by wiping out synthetic life (which you presumably didn't enjoy in the first place if you were a Renegade) and allowing the advanced species to prosper?

Or do I have the endings backwards in the first place? Because here is a video that shows all of the endings. The top (Red) are destroy while the middle (Blue) are control. I was always under the impression that blue was Paragon/destroy and Red was Renegade/control.

I chose Paragon/destroy (at least I thought I did) and ended up with a blue ending.

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rPelM2hwhJA" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

http://i.imgur.com/HjzGQ.png

I actually don't mind the relays being destroyed no matter what outcome was chosen. It's sad, sure, but it's a finite ending to the series. Whereas the jungle scene is... odd. Apparently Joker is supposed to land with your love interest (Ashley in my case) and a member of your squad that helped you in the final mission. I was too busy wondering if Joker and Ash were symbolic of a new age sci-fi Adam and Eve (Ashley (woman) was created by sucking the essence of Joker's (man) bones (extra rib)) on whateverthefuck planet this was to notice anything else but I do think I remember Javik coming out of the shuttle too. I'm not sure.

The Javik situation is a fucking mess too. I was going to wait and actually play him before I bitched about it and now that I've finished it, there's no fucking way he is "additional" content. That shit is on disc and they locked it just to get more money out of me, those bastards. They knew exactly what they were doing to me and I knew it too as I was purchasing it.

But I'm not purchasing a DLC ending. That's where I draw the line. Unless, you know, the DLC is something ridiculous like 20 different possible outcomes. Then... I dunno...ask me about it when/if that happens :shifty:

When Shepard got knocked out by the laser, I thought he was dead. When Anderson explicitly said "I'm crossing over to the other side" when he was inside the Citidel and Shepard responded with "Don't go without me" I was so sure that Shep was in heaven or some religious afterlife and it would end with him there. And then from there, the situation and ending that plays out in my head is better than what the actual ending was. Hell, I've read a handful of fan endings that were WAY better than we got.

The ending is bad. What a shame.


aren't you glad you went through all that trouble to 100% it when it really didn't mean jack shit in the end

RoXer
03-15-2012, 01:20 PM
That's another thing, what exactly does your galactic readiness change? Anything?

It wasn't a huge pain because the multiplayer was actually kinda fun, but I don't think it mattered in the long run.

G
03-15-2012, 01:48 PM
Just gives you the third ending, I believe.

G
03-15-2012, 01:56 PM
did you have to redo that cutscene where illusive man shot you. i never pull the renegade trigger. got shot and died. had to sit through 5 minutes of it again.

LoDownM
03-15-2012, 02:20 PM
So did anyone else have a huge smile on their face when you killed Udina?

RoXer
03-15-2012, 02:29 PM
The problem I had is that none of those 3 choices at the end were in line of what my Shepard would have chose. My Shepard was sympathetic toward the Geth and believed every race deserved a chance so he wouldn't have done the Paragon route of destroying all sentient life which included the Geth, EDI, and I dunno, some advanced ipads maybe. He wouldn't have gone the Renegade route by controlling them because he was always against that and never believed it could work. And then I guess the 3rd option only unlocks if you meet certain criteria which I met but I still decided against it because that ending wouldn't have made much sense either.

It's hard to imagine any one person's Shepard to be comfortable with one of the three choices at the end, to be honest. Actually, doesn't it seem like the Paragon and Renegade endings should be switched here? If you go full Paragon, doesn't it make more sense to choose the Renegade ending and control the reapers and let every species live? If you go full Renegade, doesn't it make more sense if you choose the Paragon ending by wiping out synthetic life (which you presumably didn't enjoy in the first place if you were a Renegade) and allowing the advanced species to prosper?

Or do I have the endings backwards in the first place? Because here is a video that shows all of the endings. The top (Red) are destroy while the middle (Blue) are control. I was always under the impression that blue was Paragon/destroy and Red was Renegade/control.

I chose Paragon/destroy (at least I thought I did) and ended up with a blue ending.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/rPelM2hwhJA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


Ok so yeah after playing it again, I think I had them backwards when I made my decision the first time. Blue, left side is control while Red, right side is destroy. Which one of those endings should actually be classified as Paragon/Renegade is for another discussion.

I think the synthesis, middle, green ending might be the "official" canon ending. It's also the one I'm most content with. Joker and EDI are seen in the jungle with new synthetic implants in their skin and Ashley climbs out at the end.
When Shepard got knocked out by the laser, I thought he was dead. When Anderson explicitly said "I'm crossing over to the other side" when he was inside the Citidel and Shepard responded with "Don't go without me" I was so sure that Shep was in heaven or some religious afterlife and it would end with him there.

There are also a lot more references to this too and I could see a point where maybe the keepers are "gatekeepers" to what happens next in life and you "ascend" to the catalyst. Still kinda goofy.

WISH WE HAD MORE STORY ON THE KEEPERS.

did you have to redo that cutscene where illusive man shot you. i never pull the renegade trigger. got shot and died. had to sit through 5 minutes of it again.

Illusive Man never shot me, he shot Anderson.

RoXer
03-15-2012, 02:31 PM
Hey yeah, wait a second

When attacking the Cerberus base, I saw video clips of Illusive Man eventually getting some sort of procedure done to himself.

When he showed up at the end, he clearly had some sort of cybernetic implants.

Did he find that next step of evolution of synthesis in the green ending? Was he right about the Reapers all along?

fuck it, i don't care anymore

Kane Knight
03-15-2012, 02:37 PM
Roxer Smash.

G
03-15-2012, 02:49 PM
[spoiler]Illusive Man never shot me, he shot Anderson.


He first shot Anderson, then he shot me. Both shots had a renegade trigger before them. I pulled it before Anderson. Wonder what happens if you pull it the 2nd time, after he kills him. Maybe there is a different cut scene.

RoXer
03-15-2012, 02:59 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Tbghjn7_Byc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

RoXer
03-15-2012, 03:10 PM
He first shot Anderson, then he shot me. Both shots had a renegade trigger before them. I pulled it before Anderson. Wonder what happens if you pull it the 2nd time, after he kills him. Maybe there is a different cut scene.

oh. He shot at Anderson and then killed himself in my game.

RoXer
03-15-2012, 03:29 PM
something about what happens to Joker's sister
http://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/que6a/oh_joker_im_so_sorry_me3_spoilers/

Swiss Ultimate
03-15-2012, 08:20 PM
I keep going back to the multiplayer. Can't stop myself. For some reason I can't explain I need my Galactic Readiness to be 100% despite the fact that I've beaten the game twice now.

It's weird considering that I don't give a fuck about Achievements, but the Terminus system getting down to 97% seems to really bug me.

SlickyTrickyDamon
03-16-2012, 03:40 AM
The only big mistake I made in this game was..


I didn't listen to Traynor about the College under attack, so I ended up having to kill Jack at the Cerberus Base.

Actually I wish I could have saved both Tali and Legion. I chose Tali cause Legion was geth and I fucking hate blatant ripoffs of the Borg.

How do you choose from the different endings? I just ran into the light and I guess that was "Synthesis?"

I'm confused.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-16-2012, 04:42 AM
The only big mistake I made in this game was..


I didn't listen to Traynor about the College under attack, so I ended up having to kill Jack at the Cerberus Base.

Actually I wish I could have saved both Tali and Legion. I chose Tali cause Legion was geth and I fucking hate blatant ripoffs of the Borg.

How do you choose from the different endings? I just ran into the light and I guess that was "Synthesis?"

I'm confused.

To choose, go left or right. Different colours will astound you.

LoDownM
03-16-2012, 05:01 AM
Yeah, those damn Geth, being able to think for themselves and not being half organic. Totally a Borg ripoff.

#BROKEN Hasney
03-16-2012, 05:11 AM
http://i.imgur.com/imqrU.png

ClockShot
03-16-2012, 02:30 PM
Just wrapped Thessia. Can't remember the last time I remember Shep being that pissed. Did my rounds around the ship and he practically bit Joker's head right off. Off to Horizon to put break Yeng's legs.......again.

Swiss Ultimate
03-16-2012, 02:44 PM
Should really put this in spoiler tags...

http://penny-arcade.smugmug.com/photos/i-dfFJj7N/0/L/i-dfFJj7N-X2.jpg

G
03-16-2012, 02:46 PM
So when you step the challenge level up to silver and gold, what does that do. Tougher enemies? They are pretty damn tough to begin with and I can't image going any higher. Would also help if I wasn't using the default weapon.