Mass Effect 3

[G]

I bought that ammo box that is on sale. I think I should've gotten the middle box instead. Or even save for a Spectre kit.

[RoXer]

You get a lot stronger once you level up and Bronze challenges become easy. Silver and Gold will have more enemies and special enemies like Banshees and Atlases. They'll be tougher too.

[ClockShot]

Yeah. Pretty much been doing the Bronze mission with me and my buddies. None of us really got the gear to make the jump to silver. Just keep winning matches and saving "cash" to grab Vet or Spectre packs.

Supposedly, if you get lucky and get the Black Widow, you won't ever have to grab another gun again cause it's that powerful.

[ClockShot]

On the subject on multiplayer, a question to the tribe.

Anybody hit a glitch around lvl 15? After the round, the bonus boxes you get when you bought the N7 edition and started up multiplayer for the first time popped up (battlefield 3 and recruit pack I think) and and I unlocked them. However, when I got back to the lobby, I lost the guns I took into the round. I lost my Mattock and whatever SMG I had. But I also lost all of my SMGs and assault rifles.

Any help on this would be great, but I think it's just one of those rare glitches.

[Swiss Ultimate]

So when you step the challenge level up to silver and gold, what does that do. Tougher enemies? They are pretty damn tough to begin with and I can't image going any higher. Would also help if I wasn't using the default weapon.


I bought that ammo box that is on sale. I think I should've gotten the middle box instead. Or even save for a Spectre kit.

The package on sale is awesome. You get five of everything...however, if you don't want those extra medigel I could take them off your hands.

You get a lot stronger once you level up and Bronze challenges become easy. Silver and Gold will have more enemies and special enemies like Banshees and Atlases. They'll be tougher too.

They're especially easy when you have a good team of guys all near level 20.

Yeah. Pretty much been doing the Bronze mission with me and my buddies. None of us really got the gear to make the jump to silver. Just keep winning matches and saving "cash" to grab Vet or Spectre packs.

Supposedly, if you get lucky and get the Black Widow, you won't ever have to grab another gun again cause it's that powerful.

Bah...who needs guns?

[G]

I want to play this tonight I think.

[G]

I want to get a better gun. Stuck using the default assault rifle.

[G]

Help me get a better gun.

[G]

How do I get a better gun?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Random buying. No way around it. Would do the spectre packages for that, however.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Might play it a 2nd time just to do the mission I forgot to do to get that achievement. I wish I saved more.

I was saving all the time for Mass Effect 1 and 2.

[G]

What mission is missable for an achievement? I thought they were all tied to must play ones.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Soo...I hear that other games have had DLC endings. Anybody know of some examples?

[LoDownM]

Fallout 3

[Emperor Smeat]

Bioware reminds everyone that this weekend is the first "N7 Weekend" with special challenges and rewards available. The rewards won't be sent until Tuesday and have to be activated within a week.

·Any player who is part of a squad that beats the Reaper faction on Silver difficulty or better will unlock one Commendation Pack. This means that at least one member of the squad must be extracted at the end of the mission - this will earn all squad members the reward. Each player can earn a maximum of one pack and each pack contains a random N7 Arsenal Weapon. Originally only available as single-player weapons via the N7 Collector's Edition, these multiplayer variants will be exceptionally rare and are NOT obtainable through regular purchasable Reinforcement Packs. The Commendation Packs will contain one of the following guns at random: (1) N7 Crusader Shotgun, (2) N7 Eagle Pistol, (3) N7 Hurricane SMG and (4) N7 Valiant Sniper Rifle.
·Destroy as many brutes as possible - if the multiplayer community kills a combined 1 MILLION brutes within the hours of the challenge, ALL players will receive a Victory Pack as a reward.
http://www.joystickdivision.com/2012/03/mass_effect_3s_first_n7_weeken.php


Also Bioware will be having a special discussion with fans concerning the current endings of Mass Effect 3 but won't official start the debates until a larger percentage of owners complete the game. No hints of any changes will actually be made but they will consider complaints offered.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/bioware-promises-to-discuss-mass-effect-3-ending-once-more-players-finish-it/


Finally, anyone hoping for a new storyline in the Mass Effect series might be disappointed since the current plan is for all future Mass Effect games to involve being a side story of what occurs during Mass Effect 3 or as a prequel to set up Mass Effect 3.
http://www.thatvideogameblog.com/2012/03/15/future-mass-effect-games-will-take-place-before-or-during-mass-effect-3/

[G]

I am down for that silver challenge. Guess I should try to get a better gun by then. Need 43k more.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Good luck, G.

[ClockShot]

Me and my guys will probably go for it. Reapers only kinda stinks, missing out on the 5000xp bonus for going unknown. But gear is gear, free is free.

[Swiss Ultimate]

My Vanguard's been having shitty luck with the Banshees lately on Silver. Might try to level up another Sentinel or something...

[Kane Knight]

Should really put this in spoiler tags...

http://penny-arcade.smugmug.com/photos/i-dfFJj7N/0/L/i-dfFJj7N-X2.jpg

Love Penny Arcade

[Kane Knight]

Fallout 3

See, I don't remember this being due to a bad ending so much as allowing DLC to be released. I don't remember, nor can I find much negative reaction to the end.

I see people throwing F3 out as an example a lot. It doesn't seem much like Mass Erect.

Besides, they don't need to retcon much to sell you DLC.

[Frank Drebin]

Anyone ever figure out what that humming was Vega kept hearing?

[LoDownM]

See, I don't remember this being due to a bad ending so much as allowing DLC to be released. I don't remember, nor can I find much negative reaction to the end.

I see people throwing F3 out as an example a lot. It doesn't seem much like Mass Erect.

Besides, they don't need to retcon much to sell you DLC.

Still, if you died at the end of the game, you are magically still alive in Broken Steel. I'm not gonna get dragged into an argument over it like other people here would.

It changed the ending of the main game, which is what was asked, regardless if the ending was bad or not.

Which for the record, my problem isn't with what happens with Shepard, it's the lack of an ending for everyone else. Could've thrown some text in there like Dragon Age for the fate of your squad/ex-squad members.

[Kane Knight]

I'm not gonna get dragged into an argument over it like other people here would.

Translation: Whiiiiiiiiiiine!

I'm not going to argue, I'm just going to state my case in an adversarial fashion. High ground!

[Swiss Ultimate]

FUCK ALL OF YOU! NO ONE IS GOING TO STAND IN MY WAY WHEN HOT GAY TURIAN SEX IS INVOLVED!!!!!!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

What mission is missable for an achievement? I thought they were all tied to must play ones.

Prevented a Cerberus Kidnapping is tied to the first mission Traynor gives you I think.

I blew that one off cause I thought it was a random N7 mission I could do anytime.

It wasn't.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

See, I don't remember this being due to a bad ending so much as allowing DLC to be released. I don't remember, nor can I find much negative reaction to the end.

I see people throwing F3 out as an example a lot. It doesn't seem much like Mass Erect.

Besides, they don't need to retcon much to sell you DLC.

Fallout 3 ended well but the problem was that it ended. The outcry about it was due to the fact that we wanted to wonder around the wastelands and explore more, which Broken Steel allowed us to do.

[The Destroyer]

This game makes me sad.

Thane :( Mordin :'(

With plenty more to come, I'm sure.

[Kane Knight]

FUCK ALL OF YOU! NO ONE IS GOING TO STAND IN MY WAY WHEN HOT GAY TURIAN SEX IS INVOLVED!!!!!!

It's not gay if it's with a Turian.

[The Destroyer]

Nearer bestiality.

[Kane Knight]

Nearer bestiality.


This is the product of allowing gays to marry!

[Swiss Ultimate]

It's gay bestiality*. If you have sex with an Asari it's just bestiality since they really don't seem to have more than one gender. To be honest, their physiology is pretty creepy.

[Kane Knight]

It's totally not gay.

Oh Garrus, you complete me.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The series took a serious turn for the worse when Microsoft Studios stopped being involved with the game. Just saying.

[Swiss Ultimate]

It's totally not gay.

Oh Garrus, you complete me.

Me and Garrus had a picnic and I let him win...

Let's see how many people get that one.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Lol just kicked a level one out of a silver mission and he was like "just cause I'm low ranked doesn't mean I'm crap." Bullshit.

[G]

the sniper shot or no

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Crap we were doing great until a Banshee grabbed two of us to death. Not fair should still be able to revive after dying like that. What's the best rank to go after Silver? Right now i'm a 20 solider.

[ClockShot]

Gold's the highest you can go. As far as classes go, that's compltely up to you, sir.

By the way, anybody got their silver reaper challenge over and done with yet?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

No, I've never been able to beat a Silver closest I got was dying on 10.

[Kane Knight]

The series took a serious turn for the worse when Microsoft Studios stopped being involved with the game. Just saying.

When was that?

Me and Garrus had a picnic and I let him win...

Let's see how many people get that one.

Well, I'm not ashamed to admit I totally didn't.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Gold's the highest you can go. As far as classes go, that's compltely up to you, sir.

By the way, anybody got their silver reaper challenge over and done with yet?


Yeah, couple times over now. Now just playing to kill Brutes.

[G]

When you prestige, do you keep your shit or start over.

[RoXer]

You keep your equipment and weapons and mods, your character starts over at level 1 and you need to redo your powers

[Swiss Ultimate]

It's just kind of pointless. Did it twice...it's like 75 points on your war assets.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Kind of off-topic but, was playing multiplayer when my vanguard started to fly above the map. Was up there for like 15 minutes while the guys below me fought off the Reapers by themselves. Kept trying to figure a way back down. Random glitch.

[The Destroyer]

When was that?
After ME1. And I thought all they did was publish it.

Clearly an "EA ruined it!!!!!" moment.

[Kane Knight]

After ME1. And I thought all they did was publish it.

Clearly an "EA ruined it!!!!!" moment.

Honestly, the series started to suck for me when they decided to make it more shootery anyway, so while I don't directly correlate that with EA, I still think it happened to go down about that time.

Which may have been because of EA, though. I don't know. They seem to hand down a lot of mandates.

[Kane Knight]

Some fans have filed an FTC complaint over allegations of false advertising.

Normally, I'd expect Roxer to show his dry "wit" here, but he seems to be one of the people most vocally pissed.

[The Destroyer]

I get the feeling that the ending is now going to be nowhere near as bad as I'm expecting it to be.

[Kane Knight]

I get the feeling that the ending is now going to be nowhere near as bad as I'm expecting it to be.

You mean something talked about on the internet won't live up to the hype?

[G]

Level 9

[Kane Knight]

Turn me on, deadman.

[G]

I did itttttt

[ClockShot]

Got my silver reaper challenge done with last night. Got hairy at lvl 10, but we barely made it.

I wonder how many Brutes have been taken down right now?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Those fucking Reapers. I'm taking out all my hostility for the ending on the Reaper forces.

[G]

Did the silver challenge twice now. Last was a full extraction. Lots of XP.

[RoXer]

Some fans have filed an FTC complaint over allegations of false advertising.

Normally, I'd expect Roxer to show his dry "wit" here, but he seems to be one of the people most vocally pissed.

I'm not pissed, just disappointed. I've accepted that the ending is awful and I'm not grabbing pitchforks over changing it. If they want to chanhe it via DLC, I may buy it amd check it out eventually and if they never do than that's fine too.

[Kane Knight]

Settle down there, Roxer.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

What the hell? We just won reaper silver challenge. Where is the prize?

[G]

Tuesday

[G]

Bought 2 Spectre packs and finally got an assault rifle. Problem is it is a piece of shit grenade launcher.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

As soon as Death quit getting caught by the Banshee's we won. Stupid cheap alien bullshit.

[Verbose Minch]

I only have one achievement left and it's super easy. Just using overload 100 times.

Idk about others, but this game was substantially easier than the others on insanity. I was kinda disappointed.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Why do all games give the same amount of achievment points? I got 1000 points for NCIS. More important games should have more points.

[RoXer]

Bought 2 Spectre packs and finally got an assault rifle. Problem is it is a piece of shit grenade launcher.

Dude, that thing is awesome

[G]

No, it really isn't

[RoXer]

The Falcon?!?

You must not be using it right

[RoXer]

Are you clicking RT?

[G]

It is horrible and I feel like I get nothing done.

[G]

If we try for silver later, you will ask me why my score is 0 when we are in the 4th round. I will say it's because I am using this piece of shit.

[G]

Also the super duper pack I get for beating silver doesn't contain an assault rifle. Only more shit. God

[ClockShot]

Unlocked the Saber this afternoon when I was helping my buddies get their silver reaper challenge. Figured that alone would be an equalizer, instead it barely made a dent in most enemies.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Is there a way to save both Tali and Legion and have both fleets for the battle?

[LoDownM]

Is there a way to save both Tali and Legion and have both fleets for the battle?

Yes. You have to not get Tali exiled in 2 I believe for it to happen tho

[Swiss Ultimate]

As soon as Death quit getting caught by the Banshee's we won. Stupid cheap alien bullshit.

I figure that Vanguards are the worst possible class to play against Reapers with. Brutes catch you, Banshee's catch you...hell even the husks can grapple.

The Brutes and Ravagers aren't so bad with the Vanguard, but the fucking Banshee has some biotic power where she can pull you in. Singularity maybe???

[Swiss Ultimate]

Is there a way to save both Tali and Legion and have both fleets for the battle?

Yes and no...you need full paragon or renegade to get it done and either way you're going to lose one of the characters. I know this is in a spoiler, but don't want to say too much more. I'll just say that being such a boyscout in ME2 really worked in my favor as far as this storyline went.

[Frank Drebin]

http://calitreview.com/24673

Great article that sums the ending up in literary terms.

[Kane Knight]

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Schadenfreude

[G]

So does anyone know how to exactly get the green ending. All my stuff is at 100% now, but I am assuming it takes more.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Walk straight. That's it.

[G]

What, I didn't have that. You have to unlock it.

[G]

I don't know. Whatever

[G]

Stupid piece of shit game.

[G]

The internets say you need 2800 EMS. I didn't have that.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Did you do all the missions?

[G]

No, I didn't. But now my EMS is around 5k for finishing the online. So, if I were to replay the final mission and want the green ending, I don't want to waste 3 hours if it's not going to be there. There must be more than a high EMS. They also say you either need an imported save or a ng+.

[RoXer]

What I am getting really tired of is the phrase "pulling a Lost"

[G]

This is the first time I heard "pulling a Lost".

I bought a 4th Spectre pack and it contained the Falcon level 2. I guess it's an okay gun. Slightly above the level of piece of shit.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I have never watched an episode of Lost.

[Sepholio]

Finally about to start playing this in the next couple of days. Just about finished on my conquest of Reckoning.

[Swiss Ultimate]

It's a fun ride. I think most of us agree on that much.

[Kane Knight]

What I am getting really tired of is the phrase "pulling a Lost"

Beats the people pulling a lost.

[Kane Knight]

I have never watched an episode of Lost.

You're probably better off.

[Kane Knight]

After all, at the end of Lost, they pulled a Lost.

[jcmoorehead]

I thought it was more of a Gainax ending myself.

[ClockShot]

Started the final mission about an hour ago and took break for the night.

My thoughts sometime tomorrow.

[Kane Knight]

gotta admit, the multiplayer is the one part of the game that's kinda appealing.

[Gonzo]

It's pretty fun. I mean, there isn't a whole lot to it, but I think the formula works.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Vanguards are glitching like a motherfucker. Keep getting stuck beneath the ground or up in the sky. Very weird.

Also, Xbox put a circular scratch on disc 1...what the fuck?

[RoXer]

Vanguard glitch has always been like that, even since the demo.

[Swiss Ultimate]

It's just so weird...one time it allowed me to revive a fallen team member from beneath the floor. Another time it made this dude just stand in one spot, think he was invulnerable though so...

[G]

So when are we going to see more game modes.

[ClockShot]

So I just finished the campaign.

Kinda in between of complaining and not complaining about the end. I was confused on how they explained the scenarios of what you choose. I know it all boils down to what you got for readiness rating. I took the right side and destroyed the reapers. I kinda hoped that when you get to the top it gave you an explanation on what you were about to do, instead it locks you in and you can't go back.

Normandy crew crashed somewhere, Shepard takes a breath of air at the end, after credits scene showed the future and how we don't know what's out there. Gonna try again later and see what the organic/synthetic harmony ending does.

[Emperor Smeat]

All the jokes about Bioware making a Mass Effect 3 ending DLC could actually become true in the future.

They have started to listen to fan feedback and could make changes although as of now they won't any time soon.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/bioware-could-be-considering-changing-ending-mass-effect-3

[G]

I guess I could get a refund from Amazon for me CE, since other people are doing it. :nono:

I am still waiting on receiving my big, thick package from the silver challenge.

[Kane Knight]

All the jokes about Bioware making a Mass Effect 3 ending DLC could actually become true in the future.

They have started to listen to fan feedback and could make changes although as of now they won't any time soon.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/bioware-could-be-considering-changing-ending-mass-effect-3

Jokes and conspiracy theories. But really, haven't they pretty much only made a polite "no comment" at this point? That's what generally "no plans at the current time" and "we're listening" usually means.

[G]

Congratulations everyone! The first N7 Challenge saw a tremendous level of success – the community goal of killing one million brutes was beaten handily by participants. Through your combined efforts, over THREE MILLION brutes were destroyed! Many thousands of players also managed to beat the Reaper faction on Silver difficulty and achieve extraction. As per the initial announcement, Victory and Commendation Packs will be awarded tomorrow (Tuesday, March 20) at 5 PM PST. We’ll be announcing additional challenges in the days to come – but be ready to step up your game…We hope to see you all on the front lines!

[Swiss Ultimate]

All me.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Congratulations everyone! The first N7 Challenge saw a tremendous level of success – the community goal of killing one million brutes was beaten handily by participants. Through your combined efforts, over THREE MILLION brutes were destroyed! Many thousands of players also managed to beat the Reaper faction on Silver difficulty and achieve extraction. As per the initial announcement, Victory and Commendation Packs will be awarded tomorrow (Tuesday, March 20) at 5 PM PST. We’ll be announcing additional challenges in the days to come – but be ready to step up your game…We hope to see you all on the front lines!

Seriously though, Admiral Hackett must be stoked right now. I hope Shepard can save the galaxy now.

[G]

6 minutessssssssssssss

[G]

My Victory pack sucked and there is a new Premium Veteran pack for 33000. 5 items with at least 2 uncommon or better and a higher chance for a rare.

[G]

Phaeston Assault Rifle
- Damage increased from [29.7-37.2] to [34.7-42.2]

Revenant Assault Rifle
- Damage increased from [52.9-66.2] to [57.9-71.2]

Claymore Shotgun
- Damage increased from [152.8-191.0] to [167.8-206.0]

Falcon Assault Rifle
- Increased refire time on the Falcon to 0.65 seconds
- Decreased rate of fire from 125 to 50
- Decreased max spare ammo from [24-34] to [18-28]

Sentry Turret Power
- Increased base shields from 500 to 1000
- Increased base damage from 25 to 30
- Evolve 5 Rocket upgrade damage increased from 150 to 250
- Evolve 5 Rocket upgrade radius increased from 1.5 meters to 2.0 meters

Combat Drone Power
- Evolve 5 Rocket upgrade damage increased from 150 to 250
- Evolve 5 Rocket upgrade radius increased from 1.5 meters to 2.0 meters

Ops Survival Pack Consumable
- Increased amount of bonus shields given from 1000 to 1500

Atlas
- (Silver) Health increased from 11250 to 12940
- (Silver) Shields increased from 11250 to 12940
- (Gold) Health increased from 16875 to 21094
- (Gold) Shields increased from 16875 to 21094


I want to die. My favorite gun in the world got nerfed and now completely sucks. Bye bye Falcon :wavesad:

[Verbose Minch]

Oh baby, the Claymore got upgraded!

[G]

got that stupid n7 shotgun. i don't use fucking shotguns. god

[Gonzo]

Would love to get a decent SMG. All I have are the Shuriken and the Hornet.

I would love to get that N7 shotty. Punching power of a shotgun and deadly accurate.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Victory Pack: 3 Medi Gels, SMG Rail Amp II, Pistol-High Calibur Barrel 1, Geth Pulse Rifle.

Commendation Pack: 5 Medi Gels, Cylonic Modulator 3 (level 3 shield bonus for one mission, N7 Valiant Sniper Rifle.

I was expecting more. I wonder how the Pulse rifle will do.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Geth Pulse Rifle sucked. Is it supposed to do more damage to Geth or less? Maybe that was the problem?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

According to several posts on Reddit, EA and Amazon are giving refunds on Mass Effect 3, even on digital copies and opened physical copies if you hate the ending that much.

[Kane Knight]

I knew about Amazon.

[ClockShot]

So anybody attempt the campaign on Insanity yet? This seems like a game you can get an easy 1000 on, but I'm kinda curious what I'm gonna be up against.

[Verbose Minch]

I got all the achievements in it the other day. Insanity is disappointingly easy compared to the first two.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Can you get your money back on the DLC?

[Frank Drebin]

HATERS OF THE ENDING....REJOYCE!!

http://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/21/4108/

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401933,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03069TX1K0001121

[Kane Knight]

HATERS OF THE ENDING....REJOYCE!!

http://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/21/4108/

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2401933,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03069TX1K0001121

I'll believe it when I see it. April's not too far away, though, so we won't have long to wait for the promised announcement.

[The Destroyer]

I expect it on 1st April.

[Tommy Gunn]

Amazon keep getting the odd CE for Xbox 360 show up, I snagged one, so going to trade-in my SE from release day. Gonna continue my ME geek-out by buying a shirt or two from the Bioware store.

[Kane Knight]

I expect it on 1st April.

Would fit.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Will wait and see because...what else can I do?

[Kane Knight]

You could burn down Bioware in a glorious orgy of fire and headshots.

[Kane Knight]

Like the man I fell in love with.

[Kane Knight]

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[Swiss Ultimate]

I keep playing multiplayer with people who haven't finished the game. WTF?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

So you cant talk about the shit ending with them? I hate talking to people on Xbox cause they are usually kids or take the game too fucking seriously.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I have only played with people in their twenties and older. No kids.

[Emperor Smeat]

A couple of Mass Effect 3 related news:

The next patch for the game will fix face import issues instead of creating a blank or default face.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/next-mass-effect-3-patch-will-fix-face-import-issue/

This weekend's goodie is called "Operation Fortress" and it offers 25% extra EXP experience possible with the event ending on March 26.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/mass-effect-3-operation-fortress-offers-25-extra-xp-this-weekend/

Child's Play drops any association with the group using the charity to plea with Bioware to change or fix the ending. The official stance of the charity is you can't use the charity for other stuff to be focused on even if you still donate the money generated to them.
http://kotaku.com/5895898/childs-play-doesnt-appreciate-being-used-to-retake-mass-effect

[Kane Knight]

Yay false neutrality!

[Hanso Amore]

Just beat it.

Not even sure what I want to say. Just so angry, or sad, or bitter. I dont know.

[Kane Knight]

bitter

[The Destroyer]

Well, bollocks.

I let my lust for a powerful fleet get the better of me and now Legion's dead, the Quarians wiped out and Tali topped herself :'(

[RoXer]

That's about the worst way you coukd have handeled that

[Swiss Ultimate]

Didn't even know such a thing was possible. :(

[The Destroyer]

One thing I've been wondering: how does the game play out if you got everyone but Shepard killed at the kind of ME2? Do all the squad members from that game that play crucial roles just get replaced by generic substitutes?

[Swiss Ultimate]

I don't think that can happen, actually.

[Swiss Ultimate]

If Commander Shepard (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Commander_Shepard) died in the player's Mass Effect 2 playthrough, the player will be unable to import their save game. Mass Effect 3's story is a continuation of Shepard's story and if Shepard died in Mass Effect 2 that death is considered final.<sup id="cite_ref-43" class="reference">[44] (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_3#cite_note-43)</sup> Similarly, any squadmates who did not survive the suicide mission (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Suicide_mission) at the end of Mass Effect 2 will not return in Mass Effect 3.<sup id="cite_ref-44" class="reference">[45] (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Effect_3#cite_note-44)</sup>

[The Destroyer]

It can happen, as long as Shepard him/herself doesn't die.

[G]

That's about the worst way you coukd have handeled that

Didn't even know such a thing was possible. :(

What does it matter. You get the same result at the end either way.

I could've sworn Legion was white last game. He is black in this one, and I don't ever remember them calling him Legion in this game. Maybe mine is the above mentioned generic substitute because the game might think he died last game, which is weird because I thought I picked the correct choices at the beginning where it asks about your history. I'm sure none of you had to make those choices since you didn't delete your ME1 and 2 saves. You are all cordially invited to go fuck yourselves.

[The Destroyer]

It's about the journey, not the destination.

(I'll just keep telling myself that)

[Hanso Amore]

One thing I've been wondering: how does the game play out if you got everyone but Shepard killed at the kind of ME2? Do all the squad members from that game that play crucial roles just get replaced by generic substitutes?

Right. Garrus and Tali could die in ME2...then what? Only 3 squad options?

[Hanso Amore]

Or perhaps they made it so only shep and non Garrus and Tali could die in ME2...

[The Destroyer]

Based on some Googling, Garrus can definitely die in ME2 and doesn't get replaced by anyone in the ME3.

If Tali's dead, her roles are apparently filled by the Quarian admirals.

[LoDownM]

Legion was black in ME2, with lighter colored limbs, no idea what G is talking about.

[G]

no way. your game must have been modded

[LoDownM]

You are thinking of his alternate appearance. Which is White/Black, his default is Black/Red.

[G]

That must be it. Still don't recall them calling him Legion of it being in the dialogue windows. Maybe I just missed it.

[LoDownM]

EDI suggests it during the conversation after you activate him.

[Kane Knight]

Based on some Googling, Garrus can definitely die in ME2 and doesn't get replaced by anyone in the ME3.

If Tali's dead, her roles are apparently filled by the Quarian admirals.

Including the romance options? :shifty:

[Kane Knight]

Just saying. I'd like to knock space boots with some Admirals.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Based on some Googling, Garrus can definitely die in ME2 and doesn't get replaced by anyone in the ME3.

If Tali's dead, her roles are apparently filled by the Quarian admirals.

Even the sex ones?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Including the romance options? :shifty:

Beat me to it...now beat me to it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

No, you can only bed Tali if you already bedded her in ME2. Her being dead would disqualify that possibility. Unless you're some sort of sicko.

I was a good boy in Mass Effect 2 and everybody survived the Suicide Mission even most of the Normandy's jobber Cerebis crew. Now I wish I let most of em die. :D

The Quarian female Admiral does have a sexy voice. She's from 24.

This is something from the Mass Effect Wiki Trivia Page on Romance which explains what happens.

There is a glitch in Mass Effect 3, where if you are continuing a relationship with Tali from Mass Effect 2 only for her to die during the battle to retake Rannoch, she will still appear to you before the assault on the Cerberus base as though she had survived.(

[LoDownM]

Quarian*

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

:y:

I don't like that Galaxy at War Readiness goes down if you don't play it regularly. It's annoying.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

One thing I've been wondering: how does the game play out if you got everyone but Shepard killed at the kind of ME2? Do all the squad members from that game that play crucial roles just get replaced by generic substitutes?

There's no way you could have beaten the mission if only Shepard survived.

[Swiss Ultimate]

You have to have like 2 others survive or you die. You still beat the mission, just...you die.

[The Destroyer]

Eh, I feel the ending could have been worse, in all honesty. It wasn't brilliant, but I was expecting the worst.

Still would have preferred an "everyone lived happily after" ending though. :(

[Kane Knight]

Beat me to it...now beat me to it.

I think you mean "beat it to me."

No, you can only bed Tali if you already bedded her in ME2. Her being dead would disqualify that possibility. Unless you're some sort of sicko.

Dude, who are you talking to?

Of COURSE we're not sickos.

There is a glitch in Mass Effect 3, where if you are continuing a relationship with Tali from Mass Effect 2 only for her to die during the battle to retake Rannoch, she will still appear to you before the assault on the Cerberus base as though she had survived.(

It's not a glitch, it's THE INDOCTRINATION!

[ClockShot]

Insanity ain't so bad if you got your weapons maxed out. FYI, make sure you pick them back up in the game again.

Finding that right piece of cover makes all the difference.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Have a feeling that fan endings are going to be 100% better than the actual result.

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[Kane Knight]

The indoctrination crap is really stupid.

[Swiss Ultimate]

It makes more sense than Bioware's endings.

[Swiss Ultimate]

...they're just asking questions. That's what it means to be PATRIOTIC!

:shifty:

[The Destroyer]

I dunno, it's one interpretation of it. Doesn't really make that much sense though.

[Verbose Minch]

The thing is though, it makes a hell of a lot more sense than the real ending. The real ending is literally one gigantic plot hole. At least with the indoctrination ending, it gives a reason for the plot holes.

[Emperor Smeat]

Bioware probably is going to make the whole idea of the indoctrination ending as the de facto ending assuming it gets changed with the DLC.

They probably didn't even have any plans for that to be possible but people are starting to assume that really was Bioware's plans after all.

There is some hints of more stuff was supposed to be done with The Illusive Man based on some unused audio files and probably was ditched by Bioware at the last moment.

[Kane Knight]

It makes more sense than Bioware's endings.

To be fair, most of Bioware's endings make a lot of sense. Mostly because they're ripped straight out of other media.

But Mass Effect was pretty awesome all around.

...they're just asking questions. That's what it means to be PATRIOTIC!

:shifty:

Only if they're Space Republicans.

I dunno, it's one interpretation of it. Doesn't really make that much sense though.

That's the problem with it being one "interpretation." There's a lot of whole cloth being used to make parts up. Then they create plotholes to deal with plotholes. It's kind of absurd.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Only space libertarians have the courage to point out that the explosions on the Citadel looked a lot like controlled demolition.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Blue light CAN'T MELT MASS RELAYS!

[Kane Knight]

Only space libertarians have the courage to point out that the explosions on the Citadel looked a lot like controlled demolition.

Blue light CAN'T MELT MASS RELAYS!

Best posts ever.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to the writer for Mass Effect 3, the original plans for the ending wasn't going to include making the same ending with 3 different colors or the current fan idea of the "indoctrination" theory but instead revolve the entire game around the issue of dark energy.

The 50,000 year cycle and real reason for Mass Relays would have been explained a lot better along with the small twist near the end of showing the Reapers were actually good guys.

The only thing that wouldn't have changed was the endings would still be triggered by a couple of choices and previous decisions made in the series had no impact.

http://www.giantbomb.com/mass-effect-3/61-29935/mass-effect-3-turns-out-it-was-supposed-to-be-about-dark-energy/35-540743/
http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/17086/mass-effect-writer-drew-karpyshyn-reveals-original-mass-effect-3-endings

[Swiss Ultimate]

I...like it.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

That swerve would have been worthy of Russo himself.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Is there a 100 percent paragon trick like there was in Mass Effect 2?

[G]

are you talking about where you did the same cut scene over and over again

[FearedSanctity]

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/03/27/254248-mass-effect-3-ending-disappointed-fans-send-bioware-402-cupcakes-in-pr.jpg

[Swiss Ultimate]

I bet they're going to eat the shit out of those cupcakes.

[Verbose Minch]

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/03/27/254248-mass-effect-3-ending-disappointed-fans-send-bioware-402-cupcakes-in-pr.jpg

No matter what color you pick, it'll still taste the same.

[Emperor Smeat]

This weekend's challenge is being called "Operation Raptor" and as of right now its unsure if the PS3 will be getting the challenge.

Friday, March 30 – Sunday, April 1

The Reaper horde is growing, so we must as well. Effective military strength needs to increase, and veterans must train conscripts so that they, in turn, can train others.

Allied Goal: Promote 150,000 characters. Victory Packs awarded to all players upon successful completion.
Individual Goal: Promote 2 characters. Commendation Pack awarded to individual players upon successful completion.

Welcome to the next N7 Multiplayer Weekend!

Last weekend our community operatives united to train a record number of new recruits. The time has come to turn these new recruits into battle-hardened veterans.

Join the war against the Reapers online between 5PM PST Friday, March 30th to 5AM PST Monday, April 2nd and promote at least 2 characters to your single player campaign.

This operation includes PC and Xbox 360; we are continuing to work with Sony to enable these types of Operations on the PlayStation 3 platform. We appreciate your patience, and we expect an update later this week regarding Operation Raptor and the PlayStation 3.

Commendation Packs will be awarded to individual soldiers who complete their training, and a Victory Pack will be awarded to everyone if the Allied Goal is achieved. Packs will be available to download the following week. Please note that participants need to set “Upload Gameplay Feedback” to “on” in the online options to be able to participate in Operation RAPTOR.

http://blog.bioware.com/2012/03/28/operation-raptor/

[Kane Knight]

Yes, the cupcakes thing was awesome.

[Verbose Minch]

That challenge is going to be super easy.

I already have two characters who are on the verge of 'prestiging' or whatever you want to call it.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Not doing this one.

[G]

Why did they pick 134 of each with 402 total. What do those numbers mean

[FearedSanctity]

Was wondering that too. Maybe it has something to do with the number of employees there? Or maybe they simply just evenly split the total they could afford?

[Kane Knight]

Was wondering that too. Maybe it has something to do with the number of employees there? Or maybe they simply just evenly split the total they could afford?

I assumed it had to do with employee count.

[FearedSanctity]

I thought this was a pretty appropriate quote. From Fallout 3's Director/Executive Producer Todd Howard:

I think there were some issues with the ending of Fallout 3. We really thought wow, we messed that one up. When we went to DLC, it was like, well OK let's try to fix this, we can fix this. Well should we? We should stand our ground, that was the ending! But it was like, look, we messed this up, let's fix this.

[Kane Knight]

Stop being entitled!

[Swiss Ultimate]

I'm fairly curious as to how this will play out.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ive got a Level 19 about to be promoted. I guess I'll try to see if I can promote a second person after.

I picked a Sentinel cause I needed to overload some shields, but he pretty much sucks other than that.

Still need to kill like 2000 more for the 5000 kills. In single player do crew kills count?

[FearedSanctity]

http://i.imgur.com/phnTk.jpg

Hi Everyone

Today, we received the 400 cupcakes you collectively sent us through your donations to express your feelings about the endings of Mass Effect 3. We want you to know; we are indeed listening to all fan response and acknowledge your feedback. We appreciate creative and thoughtful attempts like this one.

The gesture certainly gained our attention both with its creativity and deliciousness. However, while we do appreciate that fans were creative in how they expressed their views, after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team.

BioWare regularly works with many deserving charities, as such it was decided that rather than passing out the cupcakes to staff or wasting good food, to donate them on behalf of our fans to a local Edmonton youth shelter. We know that for the kids that have to use this facility, something as simple as a cupcake is a rare treat and would definitely brighten up their day. Thank you to the fine folks at the local youth shelter for accepting the donation and to the fans who donated the cupcakes.

Please keep providing your feedback on Mass Effect 3, we’re still listening.

Apparently they didn't want to pick between A, B and C either...

[Kane Knight]

When people were reasonable, all the Bioware team did was dismiss and point out that it was critically acclaimed, so we must be doing something right.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Bioware wins this round. Good attempt by gamers with money burning holes in their pockets though.

[Verbose Minch]

after a lot of discussion, we decided ultimately the reason that they were sent was not done in the context of celebrating the work or accomplishment of the Mass Effect 3 team. This is a subtle, but important aspect in determining how to pass the feedback to the team.

I wonder how long it took them to figure out that the cupcakes weren't sent as a compliment?

[Swiss Ultimate]

Two-three minutes?

[Kane Knight]

I wonder how long it took them to figure out that the cupcakes weren't sent as a compliment?

I'm guessing several hours.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Approximately 23 hours...

[The Rogerer]

I just finished the game.

What in the name of Jumping Jehoshaphat was that.

[ClockShot]

On the homestretch on my Insanity playthrough.


Cerberus base and back to earth and we're all done.

[LuigiD]

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[Kane Knight]

lol

[Ermaximus]

Just started this up last night. Not very far into it, but after beating 2 in only 6 days, I can say I'm hooked. Good to see Ashley back as a playable character and is that Freddie Prinze Jr. as James?

[FearedSanctity]

Indeed it is

[G]

The one and only Cole Ortiz.

[G]

http://images.wikia.com/24/images/a/ae/JackChaseHand.jpg

[Ermaximus]

The one and only Cole Ortiz.

Isn't he gay?

[ClockShot]

Woooooowee. Kai Leng is a bitch and half to put down on insanity. Must have went through 10+ tries.

[Verbose Minch]

Woooooowee. Kai Leng is a bitch and half to put down on insanity. Must have went through 10+ tries.

Agreed. His little hand cannon is such bull shit.

[Swiss Ultimate]

I want Kai Leng to have my (next) children.

[ClockShot]

Defending the missile battieres right now in the final stage on insanity, but with the huge influx on bad guys pouring in, my game froze on me 3 times today. :mad:

Try again tomorrow when my nerves calm down.

[The Destroyer]

I would hate that bit on Insanity. It got hairy enough on normal.

[Ermaximus]

WWSF!

[ClockShot]

YO ADRIAN, I DID IT!

Just beat it on insanity, all the luck in the world went my way on that last mission. Blood pressure and stress levels are slowly returning to normal.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Extended cut is coming... It's even free.

Really didn't see the free part coming.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bioware-announces-mass-effect-3-130000574.html

[Ermaximus]

Maybe now people will quit crying about the ending to the game.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

They might make it worse, if that's physically possible.

[Ermaximus]

I don't see why so many people are pissing and moaning. The game series is amazing and has high replay value. Gamers today are just spoiled, whiny cunts.

[Frank Drebin]

Extended cut is coming... It's even free.

Really didn't see the free part coming.

Someone would have set fire to their office if they charged for it. They knew it would have made for even worse press and they needed to do something to calm their fan base down.

They might make it worse, if that's physically possible.

The fact that it is coming out in the summer and not next week gives me hope that they are putting some serious thought and production value into it, and not just rushing some garbage out.

I don't see why so many people are pissing and moaning. The game series is amazing and has high replay value. Gamers today are just spoiled, whiny cunts.

The ending kills the replay value actually. Lets put it this way - I couldnt wait to play ME1 and 2 again after I beat them because the story was so damn good. Now, I havent picked up the controller since I beat ME3 since I dont see any point to play again if thats going to be the ending everytime. You can bet thats how alot of other people feel.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I disagree. With that ending, Mass Effect 3 has zero replay value. It even harms the replay value of the first two because who really gives a damn who lived and died in the first 2 games? Even in the cliffhanger endings of the first 2, a lot was different in terms of dialogue depending on what you did and with that epic feeling that something big was going to happen in 3 and then.... Nothing. Nothings really wrapped up, the same stuff happens just in a different shade.

The only thing I got after the ending was the feeling that I wish I bought it on console so I could trade it in immediately after finishing it. They've said this has a "more personal ending" so hopefully it does. That's all I want. I'm happy Shepard died, that was a nice wrap-up moment other than the perfect ending with the breath. But let me know more about my crew, what happened to them instead of just a crash landing. Maybe even toasting Shepard over a couple of drinks, not cut to Buzz Aldrin talking to some kid.

I still say it was planned and the only difference the vitriol over the ending accomplished was that they will now give it away for free. That's unless there's no new missions in there and it is basically downloading a cutscene. If they tried charging for that it would have been batshit insane, even for EA.

[Ermaximus]

Either way, I love these games and will likely replay all 3 after I beat 3. Only this time, I'm going to make Shepard the biggest douche in the universe.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Ha! If this ending debacle actually comes out alright and it's worth playing trough again, I'll be the goody two shoes, since I was mostly douche on the first playthrough.

[Kane Knight]

I don't see why so many people are pissing and moaning. The game series is amazing and has high replay value. Gamers today are just spoiled, whiny cunts.

:lol:

[The Destroyer]

So it's not really going to change the endings, so much as add stuff to them? Suppose we'll see.

[Swiss Ultimate]

It's going to add a scene where the last 15 minutes of the game were a dream and Dallas is still alive.

[Ermaximus]

Or it could be that Shepard was never real at all? Maybe he's trapped in The Matrix?

[Emperor Smeat]

Based on the female voice actor for Shepard, no new dialog is currently planned for the Extended Cut which confirms as of now it literally will be just new cutscenes to be added to the current multi-colored endings.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/mass-effect-3-femshep-actress-hasnt-heard-about-a-new-ending/

Also EA is still getting a ton of hate mail for expanding the same-sex relationships for ME 3 and primarily giving the option to make the male Shepard be gay.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/ea-receiving-hate-mail-for-same-sex-content/

Anyone expecting the rewards from last weekend's multiplayer promotion won't be getting them any time soon after Bioware discovered a significant percentage of people either hacked or used exploits to cheat to get those rewards.
http://lifesanrpg.com/61/mass-effect-3-multiplayer-rewards-suspended-following-exploits

Operation: Beachhead will be the challenge for this weekend.
http://blog.bioware.com/2012/04/05/operation-beachhead/

[Ermaximus]

This game is really getting to me now.

First they kill Victus's son, then Mordin sacrafices his life, and now Thane's dead too. Makes me wonder why I did all those loyalty missions in ME2 to ensure their safety if they're all going to die in ME3 anyway.

[Kane Knight]

So it's not really going to change the endings, so much as add stuff to them? Suppose we'll see.

It's specifically an epilogue. Which avoids like 80% of the issues raised.

It's going to add a scene where the last 15 minutes of the game were a dream and Dallas is still alive.

You lying liar. Why must you lie like that? Dallas didn't change their story, Mass Effect fans wanting a change in the story is completely unprecedented!

What are you, some kind of moron?

[Kane Knight]

That post is going to show up in one of Reqtum's flood o quotes deal, completely missing the intent of the statement.

[Tommy Gunn]

Seems like spoiler tags are no longer a big deal on this page, but just in case...

No alternate endings (like we were promised for the past 5 years) pretty much kills replayability for me. What the fuck do I care now who lives and dies if we all get the same ending?

If this was a linear game with a concrete story from start to finish (Uncharted series) I wouldn't give a crap. But there's absolutely no pay-off for putting 30 hours into ME3 and uniting all the races, when I could just switch it to 'Shooter' mode in the options and bang it out in under 10 and get 95% the same ending with a few plot hole ridden cutscenes tacked on the end.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Agreed.

[Kane Knight]

It pretty much was a linear game.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Sadly. Still fun.

[FearedSanctity]

And that's my biggest problem. The first 99% of the whole series was so fun and addicting. I've never been so careful with what decisions I've made in a game, not wanting to affect the universe in the wrong way. Choosing the Quarians or the Geth was seriously at least a 10-15 minute decision for me. So for it all to end like...that is just so fucking disappointing

[Swiss Ultimate]

Hey, maybe the new ending content will...*sigh*

[Ermaximus]

Well there is the whole Shepard lives scene if you got at least 5000 war assets.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Only if you k the Rs and Ss.

[Kane Knight]

Sadly. Still fun.

I'll take your owrd on that.

And that's my biggest problem. The first 99% of the whole series was so fun and addicting. I've never been so careful with what decisions I've made in a game, not wanting to affect the universe in the wrong way. Choosing the Quarians or the Geth was seriously at least a 10-15 minute decision for me. So for it all to end like...that is just so fucking disappointing

Probably should have been a hint that seeing the consequences of our actions didn't live up in ME2, either.

Hey, maybe the new ending content will...*sigh*

Take personal choices into account in a way that the ending didn't and Bioware/EA still justifies?

Well there is the whole Shepard gasps scene if you got at least 5000 war assets.

Fixed that for you.

Also, that was only in one ending, wasn't it?

[Ermaximus]

I got it in 2 of them KK.

[Kane Knight]

Really? Pretty much everyone else is indicating otherwise. That's also a big hole in the Indoctrination theory (Like it needed anymore).

[Ermaximus]

Got it in the red and the green.

[Kane Knight]

Well, you argue a good point, but the internet's never steered me wrong before, so I'm going to have to call you a liar