Christian [Spoilers]

[Nightwing]

From the front page

Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter
– According to sources within WWE, a change is expected to be made to a top tier WrestleMania match over the next few days. Many are speculating that Christian will be added to the World Heavyweight Championship Match between Edge and Alberto Del Rio.

Sweet :) Im all for it. Thoughts?

[Fox]

Great idea, in my opinion. Christian is a top level talent and deserves recognition as such. A spot in a World Title match at WrestleMania will help to propel him toward that main event level, even if he's not victorious.

I still would've preferred to see him win MITB at Mania and cash in against either Edge of Del Rio, but adding him to the mix of the World Title match is just as good.

[Damian Rey]

I love the idea, from a bias, subjective point of view. I do not, however, think it's that wise of a booking decision. I think it kind of takes away from the Del Rio/Edge build. Sure, Christian will add a lot to the match, but reality is, Del Rio won the Rumble. That shows WWE has faith in him going forward. He should win the title outright via clean win over Edge, IMO.

That said, I HOPE CHRISTIAN FUCKIN' WINS and drops the belt to Del Rio after a hot feud come SummerSlam. Though, Edge has done his fair share of Mania jobs in title matches the last three years (Taker, Cena and Jericho), so he could very well get the win, too.

[Fignuts]

Kind of have to do it now, since Christian beat Rio clean.

[VSG]

Totally makes sense, still rooting for Del Rio to win though.

[Emperor Smeat]

:D Christian being a main eventer could mean a future title reign.

I'd hold off putting him in Mania's Del Rio vs Edge match since it either means Del Rio can win the title by pinning Christian or Christian turns in the match and costs Edge the title. Christian would join Del Rio's group if #2 happened.

I'd rather have Christian get a longer build up for a potential title feud than to just rush him into an existing feud or as a quick add-on. Let Del Rio go against Edge for at least the traditional ppv after Mania then decide if he turns on Edge or Edge snaps and turns on him (assumes Edge looses at Mania).

[XCaliber]

Their only putting him in so he jobs to ADR rather than having Edge lose thus leading to another feud between them which is the most likely scenario.

[VSG]

Ya that's what I figure as well. Edge/Del Rio at Extreme Rules and then maybe a Christian/Edge feud leading upto Summerslam or so. Edge had said he wanted this angle to happen before he thinks to retires.

[Wolfpack423]

I really hope this is going to happen. Christian being added to the World Title match makes sense and also increases the quality of the match in my opinion. If Christian is in the match and ends up winning the World Title that would be my markout moment of the year so far. To me nobody deserves a World title reign more than him.

[Graveler]

If this is true, then my interest in this match has peaked. As much as I like Del Rio. A Christian world title reign is a must

[Jordan]

Yeah maybe it's not Del Rio's year, which is okay he's got many more left in him. It will be epic either way. Christian no doubt was on a near year long roll as ECW Champion, but since his injury hasn't impressed me until the cage match with Alberto Del Rio, that was fantastic on all parts.

At first I wasn't for this idea, but he did beat him clean so the argument could be made...

I'm for it, I want Diesel in a match with Big Show, Kane, and Kofi against Nexus in exchange though.

[thedamndest]

Christian isn't winning. He's just in it so Del Rio or Edge don't have to be pinned.

[glanville6]

damn, if this happens...im sad im not going

[Jordan]

What if they are trying to trick people into not thinking it's gonna be The Rock added to John Cena vs The Miz... oohhhhhhhh

[VSG]

That is a Porksoda post.

[Lock Jaw]

I would love for Christian to be in it, and to win it, and then to hold the belt for 17 years.

[Lock Jaw]

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[Damian Rey]

If this is true, then my interest in this match has peaked. As much as I like Del Rio. A Christian world title reign is a must

No, a Christian title reign is not a must. I love Christian as much as the next guy, but outside of beating Del Rio in a cage match, where you don't even have to legitimately beat a guy, what has he done that would warrant a Mania title match and subsequent win/run? Just doesn't make sense.

I think having Del Rio win is the right move here. It's been a while since a Rumble winner actually won the title at that year's Mania (Taker at 23 I believe). This is a perfect year to do it. It's obvious Vince and co. want to push Del Rio and make him a huge star. Winning at Mania seals the deal for 2011, and possibly beyond.

Christian doesn't need to be involved in this match. Unfortunately, he returned from injury a little too late to have anything of importance going on for him as a stand alone character. If they want to have him involved in the title match to even the odds against Clay and Rodriguez, fine and dandy. He should not be main eventing, IMO. Save that match, and the build, for SummerSlam.

Mania should be Del Rio's time.

[Schlomey]

Book It:

Christian on the outside. Edge spears Del Rio. Edge stands up and gets hit with the Kill Switch. Christian looks around and chooses to pin Del Rio. Picks up the win.


Christian celebrates. The standard Edge stares down Christian and hands him the belt and raises his arm. Edge goes to leave and Christian hits him with the title and walks out looking somber.

RAW he comes out and says FINALLY he is out of edge's shadow. Leading to a 3 month feud leading to a TLC match.

OR

Edge could shake Christians hand and EDGE could turn on Christian ----but that is way more obvious.

[Tazz Dan]

I'll come back and read this thread fully in 4 hours when I'm done fapping over the thought of it.

[Gertner]

As long as Del Rio wins I'm ok with this.

[BollywoodSingh]

I think this is a good idea. The build for Edge vs. Del Rio has been kinda flat, so I think Christian's involvement will spice it up. It makes sense to add him as he beat Del Rio clean in the cage match on Smackdown.

[Asmo]

Not too excited if this happens. ADR should've won the title in a standard WrestleMania main event - a good, well paced, old school one on one match against Edge.

I just hope we don't get a formulaic three way, with two people working over each other with the third outside the ring.

[#1-norm-fan]

I like Christian being in the match but I have rarely ever enjoyed a triple threat match.

[St. Jimmy]

Pretty big of Vince to give the traitor a second chance. Good for him.

[Jeritron]

Kind of have to do it now, since Christian beat Rio clean.

I watched Smackdown and I'm not sure if I would say this is the case.

They were climbing out together, and Del Rio's arm got caught and a dazed Christian fell to the floor first.

Del Rio got his arm out and fell to the ground and got up and started throwing a hissy fit.
So it wasn't "dirty", but it was a fluke and not quite "clean."


I'm happy to hear this though. He deserves it and some form of Edge/Christian storyline is overdue.

[XL]

I'd love for it to happen and I'd love for him to win it but it doesn't have to happen that way as long as they capitalize on the aftermath.

Christian could take the fall to ADR, which could lead to tension between the former brothers/partners and a fued between the two that should be used to put Christian over as a main event calibre performer. Chrstian could then go on to win the title.

Either way, if they do go with the Triple Threat they need to take a look at Angle/Anderson/Hardy from a few months back. That's how you do a Three Way (minus the finish of course).

[Jura]

I just hope Teddy Long pronounces Christian's name right on the next SD.

[Xero]

I figured this was going to be the case since Christian returned. Just thought it would have happened sooner than two weeks before Mania.

[Mr. Pierre]

I don't really get why this hadn't been booked to happen like 4 weeks ago...

[Xero]

Well Christian was expected back a bit later I think. Maybe they were holding off in case he wasn't fully ready.

[Gertner]

I'd love for it to happen and I'd love for him to win it but it doesn't have to happen that way as long as they capitalize on the aftermath.

Christian could take the fall to ADR, which could lead to tension between the former brothers/partners and a fued between the two that should be used to put Christian over as a main event calibre performer. Chrstian could then go on to win the title.

Either way, if they do go with the Triple Threat they need to take a look at Angle/Anderson/Hardy from a few months back. That's how you do a Three Way (minus the finish of course).

lol following TNA's example in any way is bad news.

[Lara Emily]

I figured this was the plan from, the get go, I mean really Christian as been just as much a part of the feud with Del Rio as Edge has. From the get go it never seemed like Edge w/Christian vs Del Rio (with a Christian Cameo) as much as Edge and Christian vs Del Rio, hell sometimes it felt like Christian w/ Edge vs Del Rio

[Dirk Ziggler]

This close to Wrestlemania I can't believe this. I would however believe this if it were mistaken for a match that is to take place at the following PPV.

[Londoner]

Makes sense, but was hoping to see just Del Rio v Edge first. Could do this at the ppv after.

[Rammsteinmad]

I doubt he'll win, but the fact he's in the World Title match at Wrestlemania would be great for Captain Charisma, and will hopefully lead to a (seriously deserved) main event run.

[Joesgonnakillyou]

I just don't believe the news story, I've heard so much about Vince thinking Christian is a mid carder for life and can't see how he'd change his mind, especially around wrestlemania. I'm calling shenaningans on the whole thing.

[The Jayman]

as TPWW's #1 Peep, I approve this message

[Theo Dious]

I just don't believe the news story, I've heard so much about Vince thinking Christian is a mid carder for life and can't see how he'd change his mind, especially around wrestlemania. I'm calling shenaningans on the whole thing.

Yeah a lot of people would have called shenanigans on this prediction too:

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Has the whole "Vince thinks Christian is midcard for life" deal been confirmed as ongoing since he came back to the company, or does it still date back to before he went to TNA? Things can change.

[Gertner]

How'd that work out? They are both dead!!!! Do you value Christian's life?!?!

[Ermaximus]

I don't see why Christian wouldn't win a world title this year. I mean hell, Kane did it last year, so why not Christian this year? SD doesn't have a ton of people on their show in the main event these days.

Edge-Won't be around too much longer. I give him 1 more year.
Del Rio-If he even remains on SD after the draft will be a shock to me.
Kane-More or less done. I give him until the end of the year before he hangs them up.
Taker-He's so limited anymore that another Taker title reign would be kind of pointless. He's more or less above the title. (Like Cena and HHH.) Taker will probably have maybe 5-6 matches on PPV this year at best.
Big Show-Is he even a main eventer anymore?
Rey Mysterio-Don't see him main eventing anytime soon.

Christian could easily fill that void on the blue brand, at least until we get some fresh blood up in the top ranks. Rhodes is clearly a shoe in to move up this year. Kofi, Swagger, and Barrett are all iffy. Sin Cara will obviously be main event when he debuts. Percy Watson may even make that jump to the top depending how over he gets upon his debut, but that remains to be seen.

[XL]

lol following TNA's example in any way is bad news.
Have you actually seen the match I was referring to?

An argument can easily be made that TNA's inring product its superior to WWE's. Maybe some of the match endings could be better/more clear cut, then again I did say "minus the finish".

But don't let any of that get in the way of your blind hate for TNA.

[Gertner]

lol the finish is a pretty big part of the match. How many great WCW matches were ruined in the late 80's, early 90's because of the Dusty Finish.

[XL]

Kinda missed the point there, huh?

I'm talking about the body of a Triple Threat Match. In WWE you get a series of one on one matches whilst the third man lies on the outside over-selling. TNA (and a lot of indies) actually involve all 3 men AT THE SAME TIME.

You probably wouldn't know that though as I'd guess you haven't watched the match in question. But once again, don't let that get in the way of making your point.

[Lock Jaw]

But does the TNA match include a lack of selling? Just as bad as over-selling.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Kinda missed the point there, huh?

I'm talking about the body of a Triple Threat Match. In WWE you get a series of one on one matches whilst the third man lies on the outside over-selling. TNA (and a lot of indies) actually involve all 3 men AT THE SAME TIME.

You probably wouldn't know that though as I'd guess you haven't watched the match in question. But once again, don't let that get in the way of making your point.

It makes sense though. If you can get a timeout on the floor while 2 guys beat the living shit out of each other, you'd take it.

[addy2hotty]

I couldn't be more excited about this news.

If it happens.

[MoFo]

Pretty obvious considering Del Rio 'put Christian out', and w/ all the history E&C have.

Edge v Del Rio seemed kind of lame to me for a Mania main event.

[Jordan]

Might as well add Kofi into this now

[Fignuts]

I'd rather watch a sub-par match with a great finish, than a great match with a shit finish.

[XL]

It makes sense though. If you can get a timeout on the floor while 2 guys beat the living shit out of each other, you'd take it.
True. But by that logic none of the guys would wanna get in the ring at all.
I'd rather watch a sub-par match with a great finish, than a great match with a shit finish.
But they COULD do a great match AND a great finish. That goes for both companies.

If TNA weren't so preoccupied with "keeping everyone strong" we'd see a few more clean finishes. And if WWE were less occupied with distancing themselves from the word "wrestling" and more occupied with the inring quality we'd get better matches.

[Tom Guycott]

Yeah a lot of people would have called shenanigans on this prediction too:

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Especially after the Eddie win. There's no way in hell TWO title changes would happen in the same ni- HOLYFUCKINGSHIT, Hunter jobbed CLEAN???

As giddy as I am about a Christian title run, I hope Del Rio wins. In fact, I hope he goes over Edge. Hell, doesn't hurt Edge. Christian can chase ADR with questionable wins (as in, his cage escape, which wasn't a pin, pinning Edge in this match... or voluntary count-outs, and Brodus/Ricardo caused DQ's... you know, things where Christian can claim "you never beat me" and Del Rio keeps the belt and rubs that fact in) til Summer Slam or something.

[Jeritron]

Eddie didn't win the title that night. He retained it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, Eddie retained the title against Kurt Angle.

I'm all for this, actually. It just fits the story. Christian has heat with Del Rio and history with Edge. It'd also be huge for Christian. Man, the smark in me is already hoping that the match is filled with "Let's go Christian!" chants.

As far as the match quality goes, you'd have three of the best workers in the same ring at the same time. Not only that, but Edge and Christian know each other really well. Plus, given the style Del Rio works, I can see the Triple Threat being absolutely insane. Moves like the stack superplex making a comeback, etc. I rather enjoyed the Triple Threat Del Rio, Edge & Rey Mysterio had on SmackDown! last year.

It would actually make sense for the crafty and eager to prove himself Del Rio to be happy Christian was added to the match, though. He gets to beat former seven-time Tag Team Champions in the main event of WrestleMania, and the Triple Threat allows for Brodus Clay to become legally involved.

I'd mark out for a surprise Snoop Dogg run-in, too. :shifty:

[Shadrick]

Might as well add Kofi into this now

I'd mark. Hard.

[Fox]

Honestly they should've built this into Del Rio vs Edge vs Christian vs Mystero in a Fatal 4-Way Elimination, and should've planned it out months ago.

Del Rio and Mysterio had a long term feud going, Edge and Christian have a long history together, Del Rio wants Edge's World Title, Christian wants to be respected as a main event player on Smackdown - BAM, fatal 4-way. It's not like the thing is going to main event at WM27 either way.

[Lara Emily]

Honestly they should've built this into Del Rio vs Edge vs Christian vs Mystero in a Fatal 4-Way Elimination, and should've planned it out months ago.

Del Rio and Mysterio had a long term feud going, Edge and Christian have a long history together, Del Rio wants Edge's World Title, Christian wants to be respected as a main event player on Smackdown - BAM, fatal 4-way. It's not like the thing is going to main event at WM27 either way.

Mysterio does not need to be in this match at all. Del Rio won that feud and moved on. Del Rio started feuding with Rey in August to have continued it until Mania would have been excessive.

Plus they're doing some good work with the Rey/Cody story

[Tom Guycott]

Eddie didn't win the title that night. He retained it.

Yeah, Eddie retained the title against Kurt Angle.


Yeah, I fucked that up. For some reason, I always thought Angle was the champ going into that match. Might be because I was infrequently watching at the time. Worse, I even SAW that PPV. I'm so ashamed. :nono:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Mysterio does not need to be in this match at all. Del Rio won that feud and moved on. Del Rio started feuding with Rey in August to have continued it until Mania would have been excessive.

Plus they're doing some good work with the Rey/Cody story

I agree that the Rey/Cody program has been awesome, but you very easily could have done this after WrestleMania. I do think that Edge vs. Alberto Del Rio vs. Christian vs. Rey Mysterio would have worked out rather nicely, though. Del Rio would be in the ring with his biggest rivals and the World Heavyweight Champion. Edge & Christian of course have history, as do Edge & Rey Mysterio.

Cody could have been put in a Money in the Bank Ladder Match, and really shone there. Hell, perhaps he could have won?

[Theo Dious]

How'd that work out? They are both dead!!!! Do you value Christian's life?!?!

:shifty: