WM 27: A Waste of a Roster

[Fox]

So the line-up for Mania 27 is finalized and there is no Money in the Bank. Does anyone else feel like they've completey shafted a whole bunch of great superstars?

The following Superstars are not included in the card:

- Kofi Kingston
- Christian
- Evan Bourne
- R-Truth
- Ted DiBiase
- Tyson Kidd
- Drew McIntyre

How hard would it have been to fit in a quick, 10-minute Money in the Bank match for these guys? Or better yet, some kind of Intercontinental Championship match featuring Kofi defending against one or two of them?

[Theo Dious]

Kofi lost the IC title, Sir.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>There have been whispers of a Kofi vs. McIntyre match being added, but I doubt it.

But either way - there are a ton of people left off the card every year. Christian and Swagger figure to be integral parts of their matches - and they might be thrown into the pre-show battle royal anyway because there usually always winds up being the same amount of participants as it is number of WM, so this year 27.</font>

[Xero]

Well, Christian will be involved in a main event, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's a major factor in the outcome. So I don't have a problem with him not making the card, because he's at least on the show in a relatively prominent (that's how I) role.

Ted DiBiase at this point is a lost cause. He doesn't belong on Mania, and it's because of the way they've booked him.

Same with Kidd, really. And any other Superstars-exclusive talent.

The rest are really confusing, because they definitely deserve a spot. I really don't have a problem with MITB not being on the card since it takes away from the MITB PPV (which I don't think needed to happen but that's moot), but like you said, an IC title battle royal or Championship Scramble wouldn't have hurt anything. Or even a big IC/US unification six pack challenge.

Those guys will probably be thrown into the pre-Mania battle royal. At least they'll get a pay day.

[VSG]

that's how I role

[Rammsteinmad]

I am pretty surprised that Kofi Kingston isn't on the card.

[GD]

I want Kofi Kingston :'(

[Londoner]

Knew when Kofi won the IC title recently they weren't going to do anything with him. So annoying.

[Londoner]

Also Drew should definitely be on there. :mad:

[MoFo]

- Evan Bourne
- R-Truth
- Ted DiBiase
- Tyson Kidd


- havent done anything to justify a place on the card.

[Ermaximus]

Lot of these guys won't even be around after Sunday, so what's it matter?

[Nicky Fives]

There's a reason why they hold a pre-show Battle Royal every year.....

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Taking a glance at the active roster, adding in anybody who isn't on the card and isn't injured or hasn't been shipped to FCW:

-Chavo Guerrero
-Chris Masters
-Curt Hawkins
-David Hart Smith
-Drew McIntyre
-Evan Bourne
-Jey Uso
-Jimmy Uso
-JTG
-Kofi Kingston
-Mark Henry
-Primo
-R-Truth
-Ted DiBiase
-The Great Khali
-Trent Barreta
-Tyler Reks
-Tyson Kidd
-William Regal
-Yoshi Tatsu
-Zack Ryder

That's 21, then you add in guys who will be on the show as managers and could be thrown into a pre-show match:

-Alex Riley
-Brodus Clay
-Christian
-Jack Swagger

Than bumps it up to 25. Figure Hornswoggle gets added in for comedy relief to make it 26. That leaves one more spot for either more comedy relief (Ricardo Rodriguez) or Johnny Curtis who won NXT and technically has a contract.

Bam. 27-man battle royal before WrestleMania 27. Everybody gets a payday.</font>

[Mr. Nerfect]

There's two ways of looking at this:

Yes, a lot of these guys could use a spot on the card. R-Truth is over, if nothing else, and pretty much everyone else mentioned has a really bright future. But then there's also keeping the "purity" of the WrestleMania card in-check. While some of these guys should really be on there, and would be with just a little more work going into the writing, maybe they will kick it into gear to work extra hard next year?

Part of me is still sorta hoping for it to come time for the opening match at WrestleMania, only for Justin Roberts to introduce it as a "Money in the Bank Ladder Match," just as a special surprise. Christian, Drew McIntyre, Kofi Kingston, Evan Bourne, R-Truth and Ted DiBiase are all guys who could legimately compete in such a match. If you wanted two more guys, just throw in Tyson Kidd and Zack Ryder.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'm not Gertnering this thread because I do enjoy Daniel Bryan, but I'd rather the DB/Sheamus match was replacerd with a clusterfuck gimmick match with spots.

[Splaya]

Is it just me or since the Green Bay debacle, Truth has not been used like at all

[BigDaddyCool]

a bunch of bland albeit athletic low card guys not being used on a jam packed well booked card is a waste of a roster?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Scott Stanford has a better chance of making the WrestleMania PPV broadcast than those jabronies. Woo woo woo, you know it!

[Droford]

So the line-up for Mania 27 is finalized and there is no Money in the Bank. Does anyone else feel like they've completey shafted a whole bunch of great superstars?

The following Superstars are not included in the card:

- Kofi Kingston
- Christian
- Evan Bourne
- R-Truth
- Ted DiBiase
- Tyson Kidd
- Drew McIntyre

How hard would it have been to fit in a quick, 10-minute Money in the Bank match for these guys? Or better yet, some kind of Intercontinental Championship match featuring Kofi defending against one or two of them?

Out of those 7 guys it would be blatantly obvious that Christian would win if it meant a MITB Title shot. Christian's going to be involved at WM in the ME, so that should at least mean something.

I think we all pretty much knew when WWE did the MITB PPV that the MITB match at WM was out...kinda sucks but whatever.

[Savio]

Perhaps Kofi will interfere in the 8 man tag.

[Gertner]

I'm not Gertnering this thread because I do enjoy Daniel Bryan, but I'd rather the DB/Sheamus match was replacerd with a clusterfuck gimmick match with spots.

I hope Sheamus squashes Bryan in like 2 minutes so the entire IWC has a stroke.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

I hope Sheamus squashes Bryan in like 2 minutes so the entire IWC has a stroke.

Doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised if Sheamus wins, but Bryan works way too well against bigger guys not to give it some time. The match where he lost the title was great, his matches with Morishima were great, etc.

I'm betting it'll open the show though.

[Volare]

Is it just me or since the Green Bay debacle, Truth has not been used like at all

:yes:

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, I got the distinct feeling they gave Barrett the IC title just so they wouldn't leave the IC champ off the card.

Rather than giving Kofi a match.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Kofi having a match really doesn't make sense. I can't believe they couldn't just throw him in somewhere.

[Volare]

I wonder if they're saving Kofi for something...:shifty:

[Fox]

I guess I'm mostly just pissed that Christian doesn't have a spot on the card. I know, I know, he's probably going to "play a role" in the World Title match, but still. He should be wrestling.

[One Eight Sven]

I don't like how everyone wants to just put a bunch of mid card talent in money in the bank like it's some throwaway gimmick match. Whoever wins the match has to go into the main event picture for a while and is almost guaranteed to be champion. None of the guys left off the card deserve or are ready for that push.

[FourFifty]

So the line-up for Mania 27 is finalized and there is no Money in the Bank. Does anyone else feel like they've completey shafted a whole bunch of great superstars?

The following Superstars are not included in the card:

- Kofi Kingston
- Christian
- Evan Bourne
- R-Truth
- Ted DiBiase
- Tyson Kidd
- Drew McIntyre

How hard would it have been to fit in a quick, 10-minute Money in the Bank match for these guys? Or better yet, some kind of Intercontinental Championship match featuring Kofi defending against one or two of them?

Two points: Many people couldn't care less about R-Truth.

Secondly, the idea of a quickly thrown together money in the bank match does not make sense. Everyone who has cashed in the briefcase has won their title. Just taking "the scraps" that were not booked for WrestleMania and putting them in a match with that kind of gravity behind it doesn't strike me as a good idea.

[Eklipse]

I hope Sheamus squashes Bryan in like 2 minutes so the entire IWC has a stroke.

I have no idea why people like him, to be honest. He's so...average...

[Lock Jaw]

I guess I'm mostly just pissed that Christian doesn't have a spot on the card. I know, I know, he's probably going to "play a role" in the World Title match, but still. He should be wrestling.

As TPWW's #2 Peep, I must say that I prefer Christian where he is (in Edge's corner) rather than having him getting stuffed into a random match in the last minute (like an eight-man tag against The Corre).

[Ermaximus]

As TPWW's #2 Peep, I must say that I prefer Christian where he is (in Edge's corner) rather than having him getting stuffed into a random match in the last minute (like an eight-man tag against The Corre).

As TPWW's #3 peep, I can agree with this. He's getting much better exposure where he is.

[The MAC]

lots of future TNA talent mentioned here.

[Emperor Smeat]

As long as there is still the Battle Royale at Wrestelmania, most of the non-used people will still have a shot at being on the show.

Christian and Swagger are still involved in other matches so they will be on the show and Nexus could still do a sneak attack to Orton during Mania to help Punk before his match.

Sheamus and Daniel Bryan almost didn't make it to Wrestlemania if it wasn't for the late feud those two got put into last few weeks.

[Jordan]

- Kofi Kingston
- Christian
- Evan Bourne
- R-Truth
- Ted DiBiase
- Tyson Kidd
- Drew McIntyre

Like any of these relative nobodies is going to pull anyone to buy the card that isn't already planning on it. SO MANY of you need to understand WWE doesn't give a fuck about what you want, they want the people who pay, do we pay? Generally no, generally IWC doesn't pay for shit, so why would the give a fuck what you want?

I'm so sick of people's ignorant bitching on here, WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT EVAN BOURNE OR TED DIABIASE? How much money did they draw to deserve a spot on Wrestlemania? Were they responsible for keeping and improving ratings? NO The guys on the fucking card were.

[#1-norm-fan]

I'd be more inclinedto buy it with a Money in the Bank match. In fact, that would be the final selling point to me.

As it stands, I'm not quite feeling the card. It feels like there's just a gaping hole that MITB would have filled.

[Jordan]

I do wish there was Money in the Bank, but I also think that having the Corre on is important, and you know the more matches they add the shittier they will all become.

[#1-norm-fan]

I do wish there was Money in the Bank, but I also think that having the Corre on is important, and you know the more matches they add the shittier they will all become.

Not necessarily. And there aren't looking to be many 5 star classics on the card anyway.

[Aguakate]

So it's not a 3way for the WHC?

I'm lost.

[Jordan]

No that was a Ryan Clark

[Aguakate]

So how is Christian involved in the Main Event?

I don't watch Smackdown, needless to say...

[Nicky Fives]

So how is Christian involved in the Main Event?

I don't watch Smackdown, needless to say...

Edge's "manager" to ensure Brodus & Ricardo don't get involved..... expect a heel turn.....

[Aguakate]

Edge's "manager" to ensure Brodus & Ricardo don't get involved..... expect a heel turn.....

...right.

And an Alberto Del Rio win.

Yeah!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm thinking Christian will inadvertently cost Edge the match, rather than turning heel. Tension will develop and Christian's wins over Del Rio will insert him into a Triple Threat against Del Rio and rematch-clausing Edge at Extreme Rules.

Christian should also win the pre-show Battle Royal that is rumoured.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Perhaps Kofi will interfere in the 8 man tag.

This is a pretty safe bet, in my opinion. It keeps The Corre looking formidable, and gives the babyfaces a win.

[Aguakate]

I'm thinking Christian will inadvertently cost Edge the match, rather than turning heel. Tension will develop and Christian's wins over Del Rio will insert him into a Triple Threat against Del Rio and rematch-clausing Edge at Extreme Rules.

Christian should also win the pre-show Battle Royal that is rumoured.

I think they've got to do something like this, because, I mean, Del Rio has to have SOMEBODY to defend the Title against on the next PPV as a "WretleMania follow up match", and if Christian DIRECTLY costs Edge the WHC, they would definitely have to face each other, leaving Del Rio to defend the title against, who? Undertaker?

[StevieA79]

This is a pretty safe bet, in my opinion. It keeps The Corre looking formidable, and gives the babyfaces a win.

Judging by Kanes body language the past few weeks I think we will see him turn heel and reveal he's been part of the Corre all along.

Think about it why else would Kane be conflicted in what to do? Remember when he had a choice to make between attacking the Big Show or Corre? Big Show has been trying to tame Kane so he has been understanding because Kane although he's hit show with a chair he hasn't been malicious and crossed the line YET. Show just puts this down to Kane being Kane and needing some time to adapt but I think it's because he's playing the cowardly heel deep down. I think the trumpet taunt thing and laughing and joking with Santino, Kozlov and Show is all an act again he could have went either way it's almost as if they are keeping the fans guessing each and everytime Kane has a choice to make.

Time will tell but I think Kanes playing possom!

Nexus helped Kane to bury Taker remember.. Maybe this is one of this "masterplans"? Could he become what Punk is to the new nexus?



Also I agree that anyone who has helped the company get to where it is today as far as I am concerned is on the Wrestlemania card except Michaels for obvious reasons. None of the other talent really belong on such a packed card as they haven't done anything to prove otherwise. It will also make them hungrier the next time around and you should see several of these superstars stepping their game up because they missed out. I think it will be a great Wrestlemania, I still believe this is Wrestlemania we will see the Rock rejoin the roster at least part time they will plant seeds for this and I can't wait to see what happens with Miz, Rock and Cena.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Kane should have retired as champion once he beat taker in the Buried Alive match.

[MoFo]

According to WWE's Facebook, the Corre attacked Kozlov at Axxcess, so it's safe to assume he won't be in the match.

Looks like Kofi's going to Mania after all.

Well, him or Diesel.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I'd feel bad for Vlad if he got written off at the last minute.

Need to keep checking up on that since I picked Vlad to take the pin in that match</font> :o

[Emperor Smeat]

It makes sense for Kofi to be the replacement since he is currently feuding with Barrett over the IC title. Barrett winning the IC title with no rematch at Mania didn't make too much sense initially but at least now Kofi can continue his feud with Barrett and the Corre continue against Big Show's group.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Crowd will probably get a free 27-Man Battle Royal as an off-tv, DVD/Blu-Ray exclusive match sort of thing. Happens almost every year. Just think, in 3 years at WM XXX, the crowd could end up getting basically a free Royal Rumble match if they were really bold and decided to do a 30-Man Battle Royal (probably not, but whatevs...just thinkin' out loud).

[WWEJason]

So the line-up for Mania 27 is finalized and there is no Money in the Bank. Does anyone else feel like they've completey shafted a whole bunch of great superstars?

The following Superstars are not included in the card:

- Kofi Kingston
- Christian
- Evan Bourne
- R-Truth
- Ted DiBiase
- Tyson Kidd
- Drew McIntyre

How hard would it have been to fit in a quick, 10-minute Money in the Bank match for these guys? Or better yet, some kind of Intercontinental Championship match featuring Kofi defending against one or two of them?

Kofi is replacing Koslov I think

[Eklipse]

Kofi is replacing Koslov I think

Awesome first post. You've just verified what was on the front page and has been talked about in like...5 other threads.


Anyway

Does anyone have any guesses as to who will win the battle royal? I'm going to say...Evan Bourne.

[StevieA79]

Well at least Kane got a pay day *sigh* they really are letting his character go to shit these days. I am a massive Kane fan and fully expected him to turn heel and join the Corre as a way to pay back Wade Barret for helping him dispose of the Undertaker. They seemed to be keeping the fans guessing throughout this angle with Kanes reluctance to let himself go and open up and in the end they did nothing with it. It could still happen but for it not to happen at Mania is such a waste, it could have led to a Kane vs Big Show feud at Extreme Rules and the Corre could have had a devious mind behind the group much like the new Nexus.

Kofi impressed me though that kids intense you could see he was pumped up about being at Wrestlemania yet he nailed every move. He will be main eventing in the next 5 years mark my words.

Kozlov didn't really miss much but I agree it's such a shame they took him off the card but maybe they wanted to add something else to the match and put the Corre over with the fans?

[Londoner]

Well at least Kane got a pay day *sigh* they really are letting his character go to shit these days. I am a massive Kane fan and fully expected him to turn heel and join the Corre as a way to pay back Wade Barret for helping him dispose of the Undertaker. They seemed to be keeping the fans guessing throughout this angle with Kanes reluctance to let himself go and open up and in the end they did nothing with it. It could still happen but for it not to happen at Mania is such a waste, it could have led to a Kane vs Big Show feud at Extreme Rules and the Corre could have had a devious mind behind the group much like the new Nexus.



We don't need to see Kane V Big Show again tbf.

[XL]

Amen to that.

We also don't need to see Corre + a "mastermind". They're already Nexus Lite as it is.

[Fox]

I think last night's show adds a little bit of credibility to my thread, though not in the way I had originally intended it. WWE has a great roster full of amazing talent and a bunch of them were shafted last night for the sake of other bullshit (backstage segments, Snooki, non-wrestler Michael Cole, etc).

Sheamus and Daniel Bryan, two of the best up and comers and hardest working guys on RAW, absolutely deserved their spot on the card. And they got it taken away from them for what? Pretty much everyone in the 8-man tag, but especially Kofi Kingston and Wade Barrett, got fucked over too by not being allowed a proper match.

Mania was poorly booked and simply wasted a lot of its talented roster for the sake of other bullshit that didn't need to happen, could've been shorter or whatever else.