Wii U

[G]

Kaylx has more thoughts and ideas and he'd rather not clog the VG news thread.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I've got a great idea: Wait until it's officialy announced so you don't dissapoint yourself.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

For crazy speculation I mean, not thread based fact reporting.

[G]

Originally Posted by Drakul http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/buttonsgreen/viewpost.gif (http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3493671#post3493671)
Looks like it.

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<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by Kotaku
Nintendo's next console will debut at E3 in June, moving the maker of Mario and Zelda into the HD era. The news, first reported by Game Informer today, confirms rumors that have been swirling for months in the wake of slowing game releases from Nintendo.

Furthermore, we've heard that the machine will be more powerful than current-gen systems, meaning Nintendo, currently backing a Wii that is weaker in horsepower than the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, will be showing a new console that is more powerful than those current competitors.

We've asked Nintendo for comment and will let you know if they shock us and spill the beans. Update: Nintendo responded to our inquiry with a standard "Nintendo does not comment on rumor or speculation".

E3 kicks off on June 7, though Nintendo's E3 press conference may occur the day before, if tradition holds. </td></tr></tbody></table>
Source (http://uk.kotaku.com/5792165/new-nintendo-console-debuting-at-e3-launching-in-2012-more-powerful-than-xbox-360-and-ps3).
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<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/buttonsgreen/viewpost.gif (http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3494876#post3494876)
More rumors concerning the upcoming Wii 2 involves a leaked early spec sheet, the project being named "Project Cafe", and the controller being compared to an iPad with buttons.

Rumored feedback from developers and insider sources who heard or seen the controller have them ranging from being completely amazed to believing it could end up as one of the best things ever created for video games. Also rumored was as weird and advanced the controller sounds, Nintendo will keep the costs low to fit their current affordability model.

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<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> The controller itself is said to include a 6" single touch screen, d-pad, "L and R," two triggers, and "others." The functionality of the Wii's sensor bar has now been integrated into the controller, which would mean that you'd just use your controller as a sensor bar for Wiimote gameplay. It would a sport a front facing camera.

Also, because it's Nintendo we're talking about here, the cost of this controller is said to be "modest" and we shouldn't expect iPad levels of power or performance here. They call it an "iPad with buttons" for lack of a better term. 01net's source also elaborated on the hardware specs of the console itself. </td></tr></tbody></table>
Also rumored was the 3DS could actually be a substitute controller for the new system in a similar way of how Wii games allow different controllers to be used.

http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/pics/rumor-wii-2-hardware-specs-and-controller-details-outed-761737_expanded.jpg
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/8...details-outed/ (http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/85609/rumor-wii-2-hardware-specs-and-controller-details-outed/)
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<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/buttonsgreen/viewpost.gif (http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3496137#post3496137)
Another mock-up:

<table id="ncode_imageresizer_warning_1" class="ncode_imageresizer_warning" width="800"><tbody><tr><td class="td1" width="20">http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/statusicon/wol_error.gif</td><td class="td2">This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 1280x739.</td></tr></tbody></table>http://gearmedia.ign.com/gear/image/article/116/1162204/how-could-the-wii-2-controller-work-20110415053115064.jpg

S'okay.

Anyway it seems Nintendo would give many older concepts of the GCN/GBA connectivity another go, this time all the tech is right there. We know the obvious FPS radar and Madden secret playbooks are coming... But what else can be done? And what AAA franchise will Nintendo put to work on the thing?
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<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by RoXer http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/buttonsgreen/viewpost.gif (http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3500030#post3500030)
<table id="ncode_imageresizer_warning_2" class="ncode_imageresizer_warning" width="523"><tbody><tr><td class="td1" width="20">http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/statusicon/wol_error.gif</td><td class="td2">This image has been resized. Click this bar to view the full image. The original image is sized 784x1796.</td></tr></tbody></table>http://i.imgur.com/zuH7x.jpg
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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/buttonsgreen/viewpost.gif (http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3500103#post3500103)
A Kotaku write-up about Project Cafe's controller has a line that I likes a lot:

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<table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="alt2" style="border:1px inset"> Originally Posted by Kotaku
In fact, you could think of the new Nintendo console as turning your living room into a glorified mega-DS.... your TV is the upper-screen; your controller is the lower touchscreen. </td></tr></tbody></table>
Project Cafe Official Thread, anyone? I have more thoughts and ideas and I rather not clog this thread.

[G]

Complete copy and paste job from that rip off thread ( :shifty: )

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah so... We're all totally getting this, right?

[OssMan]

I can't wait to look at this thread in five year and feel the way I do today about the Nintendo Revolution

[Extreme Angle]

Yeah so... We're all totally getting this, right?

So it can gather dust like my Wii?... Maybe :shifty:

[Kalyx triaD]

To be honest, 3rd party support better be exclusive games - no ports. I'll just get the game for XB360 anyway. I want interesting games, and of course Nintendo classics.

Hard Corps and Moon Diver would be great on this thing, though; offline co-op where we can split off into our own adventures. And if ever a time for a Zombies Ate My Neighbors HD revival...

[Emperor Smeat]

Well if its true about Microsoft and Sony waiting till 2014, then Nintendo has at least 2 years of guaranteed 3rd party support but everyone is assuming all it means is all the PS3/Xbox 360 games are being ported over to the new Nintendo.

Nintendo did sign an exclusive agreement with Rockstar for at least 1-2 games (GTA V might be one) and with Kojima/Konami for another 1-2 games.

It also helps that Nintendo is starting to stock up on more studios as insurance if 3rd party studios decide to neglect them again.

[Kalyx triaD]

IGN has an article wonders if the new Zelda should be up-ported to Cafe. And I'm thinking, "Why? So you guys could bitch about how it's a port that doesn't take advantage of the new console?" Getting tired of IGN's shit.

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Oh, noes, one person's opinion means it's the whole site's opinion.

It's an opinion editorial, who gives a fuck.

[Extreme Angle]

can't wait till e3...

[Vietnamese Crippler]

Project Cafe: The Tech Behind Nintendo's Next Console

New pricing, hardware, design, and release information uncovered.

April 21, 2011


http://oyster.ignimgs.com/social/avatars/users/154116834-1302122507.jpgLevel 12 (http://people.ign.com/scott-ign)

by Scott Lowe (http://people.ign.com/Scott-IGN)

More details of Nintendo's forthcoming console, codenamed Project Cafe aka Wii 2, have been revealed to IGN, including the system's estimated pricing, release, console design, processing architecture, and name.

According to sources with knowledge of the project, Nintendo's next console could have a retail price of anywhere between $350 and $400 based on manufacturing costs, and will ship from Taiwanese manufacturer, Foxconn, this October, putting the earliest possible retail release anywhere between mid-October and early November.

However, Nintendo could also opt to build up a sizable supply of the system and allocate more time for software and games development by launching in early 2012. Similarly, Nintendo could attempt to lower the retail price of the system with lower profit margins to make the price more alluring.

Since the manufacturing is taking place in Taiwan, the earthquakes and tsunami that hit Japan last month will not impact the console hardware as previously expected.

Additionally, IGN has learned that the system will be based on a revamped version of AMD's R700 GPU architecture, not AMD's Fusion technology as previously believed, which will, as previously reported, out perform the PlayStation 3's NVIDIA 7800GTX-based processor. Like the Xbox 360, the system's CPU will be a custom-built triple-core IBM PowerPC chipset, but the clocking speeds will be faster. The system will support 1080p output with the potential for stereoscopic 3D as well, though it has not been determined whether that will be a staple feature.

In terms of the design of the console itself, the overall size will be comparable to that of the original Xbox 360 and the system is likely to resemble a modernized version of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES).

As reported last week (http://gear.ign.com/articles/116/1162204p1.html), it will indeed utilize controllers with integrated touchscreens and be capable of streaming games to each controller, though given the power of the system, could also feasibly provide a virtualized console for each individual unit.

Finally, Nintendo is considering naming the console Stream, though it is potentially one of several names currently being vetted by the company.

We contacted Nintendo representatives, but they declined to comment on "rumors or speculation."

For more on Project Cafe, stay tuned to IGN.com.

- http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1163362p1.html

[Kalyx triaD]

The whole site seems to have shit opinions, jus sayin.

[G]

Yeah so... We're all totally getting this, right?

mos def

Nintendo did sign an exclusive agreement with Rockstar for at least 1-2 games (GTA V might be one)

get out of here. that would be like putting cod on one console. do you know how many sales they would be losing

[Snowden]

I loves me new consoles, don't get me wrong. But the tech only goes so far without actual games.

The Kinect is still probably the coolest technology on the market, but there's absolutely jack for it right now. Until games start getting announced for a new console/add on, I try my bestest to temper expectations.

That being said...it does look pretty awesome.

[Emperor Smeat]

mos def



get out of here. that would be like putting cod on one console. do you know how many sales they would be losing

Yeah made the mistake of implying it would be exclusive. GTA V is just rumored of also being on a Nintendo console to go along with the usual PC, PS3, Xbox 360.

It could still have some sort of exclusive content but I doubt Rockstar is going to do episodes or add Mario/Luigi in the game as Easter eggs.

[Droford]

According to sources with knowledge of the project, Nintendo's next console could have a retail price of anywhere between $350 and $400 based on manufacturing costs, and will ship from Taiwanese manufacturer, Foxconn, this October, putting the earliest possible retail release anywhere between mid-October and early November.

However, Nintendo could also opt to build up a sizable supply of the system and allocate more time for software and games development by launching in early 2012. Similarly, Nintendo could attempt to lower the retail price of the system with lower profit margins to make the price more alluring. lol

Will Nintendo launch in November with a smaller number of units to artificially hype up demand and make it the must buy item for Christmas OR WAIT TIL AFTER CHRISTMAS and launch with a larger number of units and more software when no ones gonna give a rats ass about it..?

If you pick option B you are a fucking moron

I personally hope they come up with a better name than "Stream". Id fucking call it the UNES with the U standing for ULTRA since this sounds like the first time they're actually going to do right with the console hardware since the fucking SNES. Just forget the N64/Gamecube/Wii ever existed, sort of like a reboot of the Nintendo Franchise after 3 lousy sequels. I remember the Nintendo 64 was originally going to be called the Ultra 64..

[FearedSanctity]

Forget the 64 ever existed? Yeah, OK

[#BROKEN Hasney]

lol

Will Nintendo launch in November with a smaller number of units to artificially hype up demand and make it the must buy item for Christmas OR WAIT TIL AFTER CHRISTMAS and launch with a larger number of units and more software when no ones gonna give a rats ass about it..?

If you pick option B you are a fucking moron

I personally hope they come up with a better name than "Stream". Id fucking call it the UNES with the U standing for ULTRA since this sounds like the first time they're actually going to do right with the console hardware since the fucking SNES. Just forget the N64/Gamecube/Wii ever existed, sort of like a reboot of the Nintendo Franchise after 3 lousy sequels. I remember the Nintendo 64 was originally going to be called the Ultra 64..

My brain... Lack of sense... Brain freeze... Must find intelligent humans... Might even make do with G...

[Extreme Angle]

Hasney has the MAXIMUM amount of rep (100,000+)

[Droford]

Forget the 64 ever existed? Yeah, OK

Why not? Just about every great game that was on the N64 has been remade either on the Wii, DS, 3DS or even the XBox.

Legend of Zelda, GoldenEye, Mario64, StarFox, Perfect Dark, Pilotwings (so..um that wasn't a great game but still)...Im sure there are more that Im missing but the point is made..

[Drakul]

Sort of cool mock up:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/04/40034725.jpg

[Droford]

thats the worst mock up ever

If it looks like that I hope Nintendo goes out of business

[FearedSanctity]

Why not? Just about every great game that was on the N64 has been remade either on the Wii, DS, 3DS or even the XBox.

Legend of Zelda, GoldenEye, Mario64, StarFox, Perfect Dark, Pilotwings (so..um that wasn't a great game but still)...Im sure there are more that Im missing but the point is made..

And they'd have been remade had they not even existed in the first place?

You've made a point, but it's one of the more retarded ones I've ever read

[#BROKEN Hasney]

thats the worst mock up ever

I finally agree with Droford

If it looks like that I hope Nintendo goes out of business

Well agreeing with Droford was a wild ride, but I think it's over now.

[Droford]

If you dont look back with such rose colored nintendo fanboy glasses, you'd realize that the N64 was garbage. The games cost MORE at the time than the PS games and they looked like garbage back then compared to PS and some Saturn games. Also the N64 was the start of the whole "No third party support" problem thats plagued Nintendo for the last 15 years. Just about every good N64 game you can think of was either Nintendo or RARE which was effectively Nintendo first at the time, 14 of the top 25 N64 games according to IGN are all Nintendo/Rare including the entire top 7, with the other 11 being crap like Madden/ASB/Tony Hawk ports from the PS. This has pretty much been the case with the Gamecube/Wii too.

The pinacle point of how to explain this is to remember playing Killer Instinct in the Arcades and seeing the ULTRA 64 logo pop up and think this is what games will look like on the next Nintendo console, only to end up with a crappy version of Killer Instict Gold actually making it to the N64, not to mention the horrid SNES version of the first that made it out (which I actually fucking bought..and even more pissed I lost the Killer Kuts Soundtrack CD that came with it)

Edit: I totally forgot about Blast Corps, but since it was RARE we'll never get a sequel/remake..damnit

[FearedSanctity]

So because the games cost more and the graphics weren't PS level the system was garbage and should be forgotten about completely? Are you serious? And wtf does it matter who makes the games? Nintendo's games aren't always perfect, but 90% of the time they're better than the shit obscure little 3rd party companies put out anyway. And your "pinnacle point" is a shit port? You can't be serious. That's RARE's fault, not the 64s.

Learn to play games for the fucking fun factor instead of how it looks.

[FearedSanctity]

PS3 should be trashed completely because it's expensive and a lot of its games are watered down 360 ports. We should completely disregard the franchises born on it like LittleBigPlanet and Resistance and focus solely on a few bad things

[Kalyx triaD]

Droford where's this animosity coming from?

[G]

he was molested as a child

[Kalyx triaD]

By fucking Mario?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The most annoying thing about Drofords argument is that the N64; bar some crazy fog issues, had better 3D graphics than either the PS1 or the Saturn. Hell, I loved my Saturn, but especially the Saturn.

[OssMan]

The N64 had better 3D graphics, but PS1 looked more polished as a whole. They had FMV sequences and stuff. I just remember the Saturn having digitized graphics which I could never tell if they were good or not. Like it looked as if there were two real people fighting against each other in a fighting game but for some reason it didn't look right.

[G]

http://ui04.gamefaqs.com/99/gfs_13436_2_2.jpg

[G]

http://gamesdbase.com/Media/SYSTEM/Sega_Saturn/Snap/big/Street_Fighter-_The_Movie_-_1995_-_Acclaim_Entertainment.jpg

[LoDownM]

I got to play a Saturn once. Out of all my friends who played video game back then, only 1 person had one and he was hardly ever free to come hang out.

[G]

Yeah I also knew one kid who had one. Rarely went to his house, but did play some Daytona and Time Crisis.

[Kalyx triaD]

Saturn was alright. Guardian Heroes was the shit. And arcade perfect Capcom fighters, though some had to be imported, were very cool.

And like hell the PS1 was more polished than N64. That was the console of that era. PS1 didn't show it's chops until their 3rd generation games, that's also when Nintendo started doing weird shit that didn't pan out.

Sony got their shit together with the PS2, and Nintendo damn-there lost their minds with Gamecube. Microsoft threw their cards in at the time, and Sega had to bow out because Sony trumped them hard (it's been my personal belief that Sega never quite knew how to do the console thing).

[Kalyx triaD]

Project Cafe will be announced and playable(!) at E3.

Looks like Nintendo will own E3 for a second year.

[Drakul]

It had been said they'd show it at E3 but that's news to me that it'll be playable.

I'm wondering what launch games it'll have. LoZ: Skyward Sword most likely will be one of them just like TP was GC & Wii.
Other than that, I can't really say. I'd guessing a Starfox game will be among them. They revealed Kid Icarus with the 3DS so I think they'll reveal another underused franchise (Starfox) for this new console.

It would make use of the touch screen for your radar, ammo, health etc.

[Droford]

Droford where's this animosity coming from?

Well if Nintendo actually puts a console thats as good as whats being hyped up right now in speculation then I'll be happy. I was really worried they'd go with the "Its Wii but in HD!!" angle for the next console and it'd be 5 more years of the same crap we've had with the Wii (really good games from Nintendo and 90% shit from everyone else).

[OssMan]

Clearly nobody has played MADWORLD

[Droford]

Clearly nobody has played MADWORLD

I have it. Boring and repetitive, id bee pissed if I spent 50 bucks on it

[Emperor Smeat]

Based on some reports and Nintendo's own schedule for their current fiscal year, the next Nintendo console won't be making a surprise late 2011 launch and the console itself won't have 3D ability although the controller could still have some sort of 3D capability.

The earliest launch date for the next console could also arrive at the same time as the rumored GTA V release date (between April to June 2012) so its possible GTA V could be a launch title.

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/nintendos-next-console-wont-arrive-before-april-2012-wont-be-3d/3072/


Another rumor has E3 being about 60% 3DS stuff, 20-30% next console stuff, and the rest for Wii games.

[RoXer]

http://i.imgur.com/3SJUm.jpg

[OssMan]

Fuck that GBA connectivity thing with Gamecube. I made my friend get his Gameboy Advance out so I could do the fuckin map thing with Tingle in Wind Waker thinking it would be a big help but it did nothing at all.

[Droford]

the Virtual Boy wasnt portable

[FearedSanctity]

And it's point for connectivity is that it's own controls will be able to connect to it?

[Kalyx triaD]

Two screens. The controller screen is touch-enabled so interactive prospect is increased. Essentially an HD console DS. Very cool.

[Emperor Smeat]

A few more rumors this time dealing with the games (and some 3DS stuff):

1) Nintendo and Rare contacted each other on the possibility of working on a few games for the 3DS but nothing worthy came out of those meetings. Microsoft is willing to let Rare make a new Banjo and Viva Pinata game for the 3DS.

2) Metroid is going to be taken out of the Nintendo Trinity as part of a cooling process for the series as Nintendo feels the series is starting to lose its appeal and support with consumers. Star Fox is rumored to become part of the Trinity.

3) Earthbound if it were to ever return as a series would be on a handheld as Nintendo flat out denied any chance of a console game being ever made.

4) Ubisoft is preparing to flood the new Nintendo with a ton of ports similar to what they did with the Wii. The studio rumored to be doing this wasn't actually named but based on Ubisoft's 3DS schedule, it is most likely them.

5) Retro Studio denies any hope of them working on a Zelda game or Eternal Darkness 2 game but Nintendo has bigger plans for the Star Fox series with the next console.

6) Screenshots of some of the next gen games are supposedly very beautiful due to using more colors than they typical "realism" colors popular on the PS3 and Xbox 360.

http://gameolosophy.com/consoles/rumor-rareware-on-3ds-future-of-metroid/

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I am pretty bored of baseless rumors already. It's like every second-rate site is just making up crap for page hits right now.

[Droford]

Im not feeling Star Fox on the same level as Mario and Legend of Zelda.

But I dunno what the 3rd one could be otherwise.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm sorry you simply have no credibility in this subject. Must be a theme for you.

[Droford]

The first star fox, despite the SUPER FX MICROCHIP OMG LOOK AT THE 3D !!! was horrible...eh..maybe not bad but I dont look back on it that fondly.

I did like Star Fox 64, probably a top 5 Game on the N64.

Star Fox Adventures was garbage..pure and simple

Star Fox Assault was better than Adventures but it was still..average.

never played the DS game.

I assume this means that just like Star Fox 2 was started on the SNES but ultimately evolved into Star Fox 64, whatever Star Fox game they were working on for the Wii will now be moved onto the new system meaning no Star Fox game on the Wii.

Some "franchise" title.

[G]

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/117/1173491/CONSOLEInline_1307462236.jpg

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/06/xlarge_new_nintendo_controller_01.jpg

[RoXer]

Wii University State A&M

[G]

"There was no picture of the console during the show."


"You saw it briefly in the initial video, but it wasn't the focus of the scene, This pic was taken from IGN who claimed Nintendo gave them an initial hands on before the reveal."

[Kalyx triaD]

That Lego game is an MMO, which makes me wonder why Nintendo didn't go into detail of their network. You don't go from choppy Mario Kart to being able to handle an MMO without some sort of improvements.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

That Lego game is an MMO, which makes me wonder why Nintendo didn't go into detail of their network. You don't go from choppy Mario Kart to being able to handle an MMO without some sort of improvements.

Source?

Every place I've seen has it pegged as a GTA-alike.

[RoXer]

and here i am thinking it was just a concept photo

[#BROKEN Hasney]

and here i am thinking it was just a concept photo

Nah, Travellers Tales have talked about the game before. Just no-one gave a shit.

[G]

reggie just said that this is the new console, except that this show is for the controller.

1080p

[Drakul]

The new device will launch between April and December 2012, the company told reporters in Los Angeles without saying how much it would cost.

Source (http://www.kwch.com/news/chi-nintendo-wii-successor-wiiu-coming-in-2012-20110607,0,1430109.story?track=rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter).

[Kalyx triaD]

Source?

Every place I've seen has it pegged as a GTA-alike.

He said it on stage. New articles on it yet, sorry.

Also, Nintendo will detail their online strategy this week. Probably a Round Table thing.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

He said it on stage. New articles on it yet, sorry.

Also, Nintendo will detail their online strategy this week. Probably a Round Table thing.

No he didn't, he said Open World. Which makes it sound like GTA as well.

[Kalyx triaD]

You may be right.

[G]

Wii U is 1080p; has HDMI out, internal flash memory, SD and USB storage support (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/07/wii-u-is-1080p-has-hdmi-out-internal-flash-memory-sd-and-usb/)

by Ben Gilbert (http://www.joystiq.com/editor/ben-gilbert) http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/writer_rss.gif (http://www.joystiq.com/editor/ben-gilbert/rss.xml) (2 hours ago)
93 (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/07/wii-u-is-1080p-has-hdmi-out-internal-flash-memory-sd-and-usb/#comments)

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While Nintendo was blowing minds this morning with the announcement of its new console (http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/07/nintendo-wii-u/), the Wii U, the company's Japanese press site was quietly releasing all the juicy specs of the upcoming machine that we hunger for. As mentioned during the presser, the console will output games in high definition, now revealed as ranging from 480i to 1080p. Moreover, the Wii U will output HD by employing HDMI.

As far as internal storage goes, it's still unclear whether or not the Wii U will come packed with an HDD, but the specs sheet does amorphously detail "internal flash storage," as well as an SD slot and the ability to use USB storage. Notably, the list points out that the USB storage will allow for external HDDs. And while the disc slot gives us the impression that Wii U games will be disc-based, Nintendo has yet to reveal its medium of choice.

[Drakul]

Reggie says what kind of disc they'll use in a GT interview in the E3 thread. An optical disc or something. I can't remember.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

He just said it was a proprietary disc. Wouldn't be shocked if it was DVDs again though.

Outside bet would be licensing HD-DVD patents and using that to create their own 50gb disc. That could work and it would be cheaper than paying Sony.

[OssMan]

So it looks like my Wii will be used only for homebrew and for playing games that I have saved on there and this new Wii U will be used for everything else. Right on

[G]

holla dolla

[Emperor Smeat]

Kotaku just posted the info they got from one of the chief designers for the system and it will use a BD-like disc at 25GB with internal harddrive being 8GB Flash memory but allows USB drives for external harddrive capabilities. Disc drive speed is fast enough that it won't need to be full of copied game data like with the PS3 due to its slow disc read speeds.

http://kotaku.com/5809701/wii-u-discs-will-be-25gb-in-size

Most of the sources are saying the chip is going to be from IBM and either be a 3 Core (majority of sources) or 4 Core (few sources) with each core at 3 to 3.3 GHz.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I've slept on it and I feel slightly better about it. Not "stoked", but they'll have to create some new IP and/or price it under £200 for me to even consider it.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

So is Skyward Sword the only Wii game between now and WiiU?

[Drakul]

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[Dirk Ziggler]

What a disappointing hunk of shit this has become. Had a glimpse of hope that Nintendo would come up with something for 'core gamers. This looks like nothing more then an extension of the already existing Wii Console. I predict Epic failure and fewer console sales then the Gamecube.

[Xero]

What a disappointing hunk of shit this has become. Had a glimpse of hope that Nintendo would come up with something for 'core gamers. This looks like nothing more then an extension of the already existing Wii Console. I predict Epic failure and fewer console sales then the Gamecube.

Same was said about the Wii.

It was an epic success.

[Requiem]

What a terrible fucking name.

[Dirk Ziggler]

Goto http://e3.nintendo.com/iwataasks/

And click the link that looks like this
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/_ui/images/e32011/video-promo.jpg

For some reason when I try to copy and paste the direct link to the video. It posts a totally different video.

[Kalyx triaD]

Technically, this can satisfy core gamers in terms of power and control. All we need to hear is their online suite. And even then, I'd say Nintendo addressed a lot of issues anyway. They just downplayed the core gamer stuff to advertise their controller.

[Drakul]

What a disappointing hunk of shit this has become. Had a glimpse of hope that Nintendo would come up with something for 'core gamers. This looks like nothing more then an extension of the already existing Wii Console. I predict Epic failure and fewer console sales then the Gamecube.

It's, at least, on equal terms with the 360/PS3 in terms of power. It can read a disc faster than a PS3. I'm not sure what that means for us because I'm no tech guy, I just read it.
The games being shown are more for illustrative purposes so we see how things work.

The Zelda demonstration was in real time (You could change the camera and the lighting) and the "Bird in a Japanese garden" demo was real time too (you could change the weather among "other things" though I don't know what they were). That's pretty cool. Especially when you think that it was just a demo and that developers squeeze more out of a console, the longer the develope for it.

The console has a good 3rd party support too, now that they can actually put their games onto the Nintendo console without cutting back on content. Plus they sound as though they have actual online now.

This, along with what the pad can do sounds like more than an "extension" to me.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

"Real-time" demos mean crap with no gameplay to them/ Enemy routines and your animation all takes up system resources, games will look worse than that demo.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

INteresting that it's on equal terms with the 360 and PS3. Like I said in the E3 thread though, depending on its price, when compared with the price of the other next gen systems that will come out, who knows. I mean, it's showing Darksiders 2 and a new Ninja Gaiden, both games which will be on PS3 and 360. So are the hardcore fans going to want to shell out a bunch of money to buy a system that plays games their current systems can, or are they going to wait another year or two and use that money to buy the new Microsoft or Sony system that will inevitably be superior system wise?

[Kalyx triaD]

The next gen consoles will be stronger that's the way of things.

Point is when I look the Nintendo shelf in a store there will be things worth taking a look at, might even choose to get a multiplatform game on WiiU if it scores on a gimmick or two on top of matching the other versions.

This is basically the 128bit generation redux. Legit choices between the three consoles.

[BigDaddyCool]

looks neet

[What Would Kevin Do?]

This is basically the 128bit generation redux. Legit choices between the three consoles.

Exactly. Between the Wii U, the PS3, and the 360. The major difference is that the Wii U has the gimmick controller.

However, what happens when it's Wii U, new Sony system, new Microsoft system? The Wii U might have an edge over the ps3 and 360 with it's controller if everything else is comparable. However, if the new systems leave the Wii U in the dust, then it's just a repeat of Wii, PS3, 360. The games on the new Sony and Microsoft system may not have a comparable "multiplatform" version for the Wii U.

Of course, this is all moot, since the Nintendo fanbase will buy it anyway. Still, it just seems like Nintendo is lagging a generation behind. A lot of people may not care, and may care more about the gimmick than the games. I tend to buy systems based on the games I want to play though, and considering the majority of things that I'd want to play on the WiiU I could just as easily play on my PS3, means I'll never buy the WiiU.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to bash Nintendo, it's just an observation. Their goal seems to be "come out with a system that revolutionizes the current gen, while the other two come out with systems that start the next gen."

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'd say the main difference is Nintendo games.

If I get this, it will be in spite of the controller, not because of it.

[Drakul]

The full testimonial from developers. We get told more about Tekken Wii U and they mention some other plans they have.

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[Emperor Smeat]

So is Skyward Sword the only Wii game between now and WiiU?

If you mean only games from Nintendo then no since the Kirby game and a few others are still set to arrive either later this year to pre-Wii U launch. I think there is also the Zelda 25th anniversary collection still coming as well.

I know a few RPGs like Last Story and Pandora's Tower are still set for a release out of Japan and Dragon Quest X shouldn't arrive any later than early 2012. Those would also be going with the usual sports and other games the Wii normally gets each year.

Won't really know until the Tokyo Game Show what the final major Wii schedule of games will be although Nintendo did hint the system still will have some stuff for at least end of 2012.

[Requiem]

Still caught up on how fucking atrocious the name is. Wii U. Get the fuck out of here Nintendo. Hire some new people.

[RoXer]

ohhh wii u
http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/image/composition/17868845/view/1/producttypecolor/1/type/png/width/378/height/378/you-look-just-like-buddy-holly_design.png

[#BROKEN Hasney]

They're all doing it, fucking marketing chumps

PS Vita as well *shudder*

[#BROKEN Hasney]

"Rather than a machine having an account, each individual user has an account," he explained, saying that the system is "exactly" like XBox 360 gamertags.

Praise the lord.

[Drakul]

Good news.

[Drakul]

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/oo15iruRD9I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Note: The Wii U doesn't have feet, despite what the video says. It has to stay flat and can't be stood up.

Speaking to Kotaku earlier today, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime revealed that while the Wii U will still be compatible with Wii software, its predecessor's backward compatibility with the GameCube will not be making an appearance.

Source (http://uk.kotaku.com/5810081/farewell-gamecube-the-wii-u-doesnt-play-you).

Oh well.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/oo15iruRD9I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Note: The Wii U doesn't have feet, despite what the video says. It has to stay flat and can't be stood up.

Yeah, but the Wii thing came with a stand thing. It will probably do that again.

[Dave Youell]

I'm impressed,

What sort of range do you think that remote can work away from the unit?

[Drakul]

There has been some, well, alot of speculation regarding how many Wii U controllers (or Wiipads, depending on who you ask) players will be able to use with the recently announced Nintendo system that comes out some time in 2012. Many noticed that in all of the pictures and video that Nintendo trotted out to publicize its new system, there never seemed to be more than one touchscreen sporting controller being used at any one time.

Nintendo, of course, neglected to address this during its E3 press conference which it held last Tuesday. Well now, in an interview with Nintendo’s main man Shigeru Miyamoto, it has been revealed that the Wii U will, in fact, only support one Wii U controller per system.

“Our basic premise is that you can use one with a system,” said Miyamoto. “If we got to an idea of having multiple, it might be just more convenient for people to use their Nintendo 3DS and have a way to connect that. That being said, we are doing research about if someone brings their controller to their friend’s house and they want to play together on Wii U to whether or not something like that would be possible.”

So there’s the answer to that question. Since the announcement of the Nintendo Wii U, Joystiq has reported that Nintendo’s stock has dropped 10%, reaching levels the company has not seen since before the Wii was announced.

What’s your take on the Wii U? Does Nintendo have another hardware hit on its hands?

Source (http://www.gametrailers.com/news/wii-u-will-only-use-one-wii/3486).

[Kalyx triaD]

Wait... why the fuck can't it just connect four controllers? I'm kinda shocked, this is deal breaker shit. How was Tekken, Madden, and other games going to play? Did developers know about this?

[Kalyx triaD]

Okay thinking about it; the Wii classic controller works with this. So does the excellent Motion+ controller. We have an HD Nintendo console and possibly a new Nintendo Online hub.

I'm fine with this. Bring it on. It just seemed jarring s'all.

[Lara Emily]

Not surprising I have to imagine the processing power needed to display info on one screen and then stream it to two others with each likely having a different info would be huge

[OssMan]

I feel like it is Wii 2.5, and they should keep coming out with Wii games.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I feel like it is Wii 2.5, and they should keep coming out with Wii games.

I'm hoping they don't, at least not Nintendo's core games. I can't see them wanting to waggle that screen too much, which is a great, great thing.

[Droford]

No gamecube ports like on the Wii.

wont be able to use my wavebird for SSB..boo

[Poit]

Not being able to use multiple tablet controllers at once would kinda suck.

The main (non-gimmicky) uses of the tablet controller are to use as a menu or inventory when playing games (great for RPGs), or so you have a private screen where you can make secret decisions when playing a multiplayer game. I'd be rather disappointed if the latter wasn't possible.

[Drakul]

I read a while ago that they were trying to get it up to multiple pads. I can't remember if it was Nintendo or a 3rd party like EA.

The full, real time Bird tech demo. Unfortunately, just as it's about to get good, they get moved along.

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

I read a while ago that they were trying to get it up to multiple pads. I can't remember if it was Nintendo or a 3rd party like EA.

The full, real time Bird tech demo. Unfortunately, just as it's about to get good, they get moved along.

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6OHUwDShrD4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Like I said though, real-time demos mean nothing as they're not doing complex logic. The PS3 demos look much, much better than anything that has ever come out.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

WII U LITTLE...

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb276/skywalkerlu/simpsons-1.gif?t=1242006227

[The Rogerer]

Remember how uninspiring the PS3 tech demos were?

[Drakul]

Exclusive Wii U game from Ubisoft:

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Screw that thing about the online service. That's UbiSoft's own online service and Nintendo may not have their own, again.

[FearedSanctity]

Where'd you hear that from? Not having any type of online service would totally kill my interest in this, but that's just me

[Xero]

Couldn't they solve the multi-pad problem by adding a cartridge port to it? Or have a an SD card that holds downloaded info from the system, so there's less streaming from the system itself?

Obviously this wouldn't work for full-on gameplay, but for simple things, like menus and mini games, it should work fine, no?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Where'd you hear that from? Not having any type of online service would totally kill my interest in this, but that's just me

Invisible Walls on Gametrailers.

[V]

ugh, this is the first time i've lost faith in nintendo. i am sure they will surprise us again though.

What's with Nintendo, throwing away their code names for retarded names. Dolphin, Revolution, and Project Cafe (or even just Cafe) would have been amazing names for consoles.

[Drakul]

Nintendo has only said its new Wii U console will be out in 2012. Former rival Sega, however, has been a little more specific.

In an interview with GameSpot last week during E3, Sega executive vice president of marketing Alan Pritchard said "the Wii U is coming out next spring/summer".

Blunt! It's not, however, confirmation of a release date, as he's a third-party representative speaking at a busy, hectic trade show.

But as a general idea from a guy who knows more about it than you do, it's one to file away for the future!

Source (http://uk.kotaku.com/5811268/sega-says-wii-u-out-springsummer-2012).

[Emperor Smeat]

GiantBomb had an interview with Nintendo's PR rep after E3 about the Wii U and some more details were revealed.

1) Unlike with the Wii, DS, and 3DS, Nintendo is not forcing or making it mandatory that the launch and earlier Wii U games must have some sort of "gimmick" to show case the new features of the system.

2) Even though the exact distance wasn't given, the Wii U controller is expected to have a "living room" style range or at least a range similar to DS trying to connect with each other or the Wii.

3) While only one controller was shown at E3, Nintendo did say that was on purpose since the focus of E3 was all about the new experience of the controller for a player and not necessarily means only 1 controller possible.

4) Theoretically it is possible to use a Wiimote to work on a Wii U screen since the controller itself has its own sensor.

5) Battle Mii and the other Mii-related demos might not become actual games or even be packaged like a "Wii Sports" for the new Wii U

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/heres-everything-nintendo-would-tell-me-about-wii-u/3368/

[Drakul]

Based on everything we saw at E3, Nintendo's new Wii U console didn't look any more powerful than an Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3. Now, though, some developers are apparently saying that's not the case!

Speaking with IndustryGamers earlier today, Sterne Agee analyst Arvind Bhatia said "Some of the developers we spoke to indicated to us that the console will have 50% more processing power compared to the PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360. This is yet to be confirmed by Nintendo."

Now, this isn't an analyst guessing, or making a prediction like they normally do. This is an analyst directly passing on information they say they've heard from people working on the console.

Such a vague term could mean anything, of course, especially without more technical information in support of it, but for those hoping games could look a little better than what was shown at E3, it's cause for optimism.

Source (http://uk.kotaku.com/5811614/the-wii-u-might-be-a-little-more-powerful-than-we-thought).

[Emperor Smeat]

Some more Wii U news with good news about the confusion regarding if the system can use more than 1 Wii U controller.

1) Nintendo will not be offering a dual version of the upcoming Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword and stressing it will only be on the Wii. The game is still on schedule and will not be delayed because Nintendo wants this to be their major title for the Fall season.
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.com/story/86833/no-dual-platform-release-for-skyward-sword-says-reggie/

2) No More Heroes 3 confirmed to be in development and is expected to be an exclusive for the system with the controller playing a huge role in the game. Also revealed is the possibility of introducing another main character for the series to go along with Travis Touchdown.
http://screwattack.com/blogs/ScrewAttack-News/No-More-Heroes-3-Coming-to-The-Wii-U

3) Reggie Fils-Aime reveals the Wii U can support more than one Wii U controller at a time and agrees that the confusion about the situation was due to Miyamoto suggesting the system only uses 1 controller because of the demos and stuff shown on stage at E3.
http://screwattack.com/blogs/ScrewAttack-News/News-on-the-Wii-Us-controller-support-and-graphical-capabilities

[Kalyx triaD]

DAMAGE CONTROL

[Droford]

Im assuming the people at Sony and Microsoft are working feverishly on controllers with touchscreens now right?

[Kalyx triaD]

Perhaps. Depends on how that feature will be received on WiiU.

Funny thing is, many of the concepts of the WiiU can be emulated by PS3/PSV connectivity (and with no controversy on how many can be used at once). The PSV has all the standard buttons of a core controller (minus two shoulder buttons), and a nice screen. I imagine Sony will push to intercept some of what Nintendo is going for. A touchscreen is besides the point when PSV can essentially be a PS3 controller as well.

Microsoft is at a point where I can't imagine what stupidity they'll push next. Since Avatars, they've been doing this strange random shit trying to capture the spirit of Nintendo's blue ocean strategy - and they came of looking like douches.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

God I hope not. I'll be getting this in spite of the "functionality" because there's one thing this will have that Sony's machine won't: HD Nintendo games.

[Kane Knight]

Im assuming the people at Sony and Microsoft are working feverishly on controllers with touchscreens now right?

Of course not. They wouldn't dare rip off Nintendo...

....Not unless it becomes successful, at which point they'll start working on a knockoff.

[Drakul]

The Wii U plays games that run on a proprietary 25 GB format. As Kotaku previously reported, that's the same size as Blu-ray discs. But don't think that means the Wii U will run Blu-ray discs. Heck, it won't even run DVDs.

Speaking with investors and analysts, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata confirmed that the Wii U will not play DVDs nor will it play Blu-ray dics.

"Wii U does not have DVD or Blu-ray playback capabilities," said Iwata.

According to the Nintendo honcho, "The reason for that is that we feel that enough people already have devices that are capable of playing DVDs and Blu-ray, such that it didn't warrant the cost involved to build that functionality into the Wii U console because of the patents related to those technologies."

Nintendo's current console, the Wii, does not permit DVD movie playback.

Source (http://uk.kotaku.com/5812090/the-wii-u-will-not-play-dvds-and-blu+ray-discs).

[Kane Knight]

They always have an excuse. How's this: Why not just say "we don't want to include this function?"

After them trying to tel us nobody really wanted online or HD, this is a pretty small one, but come on. You didn't include it because you didn't want to pay the money period, not because of the prevalence of the units. Which I don't even buy for BD, but still.

[LuigiD]

Kinda funny not to add DVD/Blu ray playback considering Nintendo made a huge deal over the fact that they want people to have the console on at all times, blah blah blah,etc.

[LoDownM]

The Australian EB Games website has a page up for Nintendo's Wii U. There's even a pre-order page (http://www.ebgames.com.au/wiiu-153813-Wii-U-Wii-U) with an estimated RRP price of $598, which would be over $600 USD. There's no other release information other than a 2012 date.
Another page (http://www.ebgames.com.au/wiiu) at the retailer's site has several games listed. It's generic franchise names and logos, just as they were presented in Nintendo's E3 press conference. Want to reserve a few games along with your $600 Wii U? That will be $108 AUD a piece, please.
Too soon, EB Games. Too soon.


http://www.destructoid.com/eb-games-australia-lists-wii-u-for-preorder-for-598-aud-203988.phtml


I know it's not the real price, but I will be passing on it if it turns out true.

[Drakul]

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[RoXer]

I bet the rep is right and the only issue may be the actual controller.

[Kane Knight]

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[Drakul]

The guy complaining about Zelda being the same game every time. I'm willing to bet he most likely has multiple CoD and Halo games.

The only thing that's the same in each Zelda is the core story and mechanics. That's what makes it Zelda. The same way each Fable is the same core story and mechanics each time which makes it Fable. The same way any series with more than 2 entries is the same core story and mechanics each time. That's what makes a series what it is.

To change the core mechanics and story is to turn it into a whole other series.

[Kalyx triaD]

That is a complaint I never quite understood. People tend to not know what the fuck they're asking for, because when Nintendo gets jiggy enough to make some revamped Zelda - watch these same dudes be the first to start those stupid online petitions asking for Link to be mute or whatever counters a change.

[Drakul]

People complain just to complain.

Take Duke Nukem Forever as an example. People complained about it including stuff from modern FPS games. Then they complained about it being outdated.
So they don't like that it takes on new things yet they don't like that it plays like an outdated game.

They don't want the old style yet they don't want it modernised.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Not really, it can be both. The best combination for me would be a modern engine and a fuck load of weapons and non-regenerating health. Duke Nukem just took the worst parts of 2 generations of FPS. It's a legitimate complaint

[Kane Knight]

The guy complaining about Zelda being the same game every time. I'm willing to bet he most likely has multiple CoD and Halo games.

lulz that was most likely fanboy reassurance.

[Drakul]

Not really. It's one of those things people do. They'll bitch about something because it's a certain game but be ok with it in another game.

For example, when Capcom announced Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition, everyone was bitching about how it better be a free update and it would be typical greedy Capcom if they expected us to actually pay for such a small update (This "small update" being 4 new characters among other things.). Yet, when the next FIFA or Madden or SvR comes out with their miniscule changes, no one bats an eyelid and forks out full price from them year after year after year.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Are you actually talking about the same people though? Everytime I see a generalization where it's "They do this, and then they do this", it's usually two different people completely but the connection is made because they're "gamers" or "movie goers" or the IWC.

OK, the last one might fit.

[Kalyx triaD]

No it's the same people, world's not that big.

[Kane Knight]

Not really. It's one of those things people do. They'll bitch about something because it's a certain game but be ok with it in another game.

mnore often than not, that's only true of the collective. People then act as though the overall body is a single entity, or that each individual within that body holds the same views.

It's good for applying a dose of reassurance to butthurt, but it rarely plays out in the real world.

[Drakul]

I wouldn't say it was butthurt. I just don't see why the guy raged over Zelda being "the same game every time" when every other game with multiple enteries is "the same game every time". Zelda, Mario, Sonic, Street Fighter, you name it.

Anytime something is changed in a series, people get pissed about it or the game flops.

[Emperor Smeat]

Valve hints it could be making games for the Wii U after the company's co-founder in an interview stated the new system fits well with the current Valve development model.

Gabe Newell, president and co-founder of the studio that makes Team Fortress, Half-Life, Portal and Left 4 Dead games, tells Joystiq that Nintendo's Wii successor "seems to be a lot more powerful than the previous generation," adding that it fits very well with Valve's own "scalability model."

One of the big reasons Valve didn't support the Wii was due to the Wii's lack of power, the small size of the company, and being more familiar with PC-like environments meant they couldn't create or customized the Source engine for the Wii.

http://kotaku.com/5814620/valve-likes-what-it-sees-in-nintendos-wii-u

[Emperor Smeat]

Wii U will only support 1 tablet controller at launch but Nintendo is currently working on a patch to make multiple tablets possible but it won't be ready until way after launch.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/wii-u-titles-wont-support-two-gamepads-until-well-after-launch/

Nintendo is also working on a patch or ways to minimize calibration issues that could pop up from certain Wii U games at launch but only a few games (no ports) seem to be likely to be affected.
http://kotaku.com/5918070/nintendo-has-a-plan-to-deal-with-its-wii-u-calibration-problem

Iwata also recently confirmed the Wii U will allow developers pretty much a free reign on what they want to do with DLC while also promising to allow free-to-play games to be possible on the system similar to the PC and PS3 to help bring more games to the console.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/wii-u-aims-future-free-play-and-microtransactions-space

[Kalyx triaD]

I don't care, may not even use the tablet controller.

I want Zelda U, Mario Kart U, Smash Bros. U, and F-Zero U. I won't care for multiplatform games since 360 will always get my vote there. Give me the Nintendo franchises.

[Damn]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8c/Gorilla_Monsoon.jpg/220px-Gorilla_Monsoon.jpg

WII U STOP?

[Kalyx triaD]

Was just thinking, I hope they use the tablet as a motion detector in Aliens Colonial Marines, that'd be so cool.

That's been confirmed long ago.

[Emperor Smeat]

President of Nintendo, Iwata, stress that the company is still working on finding a reasonable price for the Wii U with them really taking the lessons they learned from the 3DS launch as a way to prevent the same from happening with the Wii U.

Most places are placing the potential price around $300 to $350 and Nintendo themselves are still waiting for an approval by the FCC to officially sell the console and get a release date announced.
http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-s-iwata-promises-a-reasonable-wii-u-price-230163.phtml

EGM had a hands-on preview with ZombiU and basically confirm most of the news from E3 about the game while also going into a bit of detail regarding what happens when your character dies. Also they confirmed the "complex" control scheme was done on purpose to help enhance the horror aspect of the game and not make it just a run-and-gun FPS type of game.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/previews/egm-preview-zombiu/

[Kalyx triaD]

$300 is fine with me.

[Kapoutman]

At 300$, I would buy on launch day.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

At $300, I'd turn tricks for it if I spent too much cash on other things.

[Damn]

I would buy it for 3 dollars and 28 cents.

[Emperor Smeat]

Nintendo won't be joining Microsoft and charging for the majority of features on the new Nintendo Network with at least the Miiverse and other social features confirmed to be free. There is some conflicting reports saying its possible the online multiplayer will be charged will others are stating it won't.

They also are currently hiring and consulting a lot of people with experience in network making and running to help finalize the new Network such as the recent hiring of former VP of Disney's interactive media branch as the new boss of the Nintendo Network.

http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-gets-serious-about-network-hires-disney-svp-230383.phtml
http://andriasang.com/con1pi/nintendo_shareholder_meeting/

[Kalyx triaD]

I figured it would be free.

[Kane Knight]

If Nintendo's price for the WiiU was reasonable, they would have announced it already.

[PapaGeorgio]

If Nintendo's price for the WiiU was reasonable, they would have announced it already.

Doubtful. Coming of E3 the Wii U has been in the news recently. In the future when there is no big news on the Wii U, an easy way to get it back into the news is releasing the price.

[Kane Knight]

Except low price is a rather important selling point, especially after the 3DS debacle.

[Damn]

Who is gonna waste money on a Wii U? Just to play new Mario? Mario hasnt even been good since Mario 64.
Nintendo is losing it!

[Kane Knight]

Who is gonna waste money on a Wii U? Just to play new Mario? Mario hasnt even been good since Mario 64.
Nintendo is losing it!

not sure if you're trolling or just a CodTard.

[Fignuts]

I have always assumed both.

[Damn]

Whats COD have to do with it?

Nintendo hasnt had a good console since N64.

Just cause Wii is a best seller dont make it a good console!

[Kane Knight]

Just cause Wii is a best seller dont make it a good console!

And just because you can mash your paws on a keyboard don't make you a human!

[PapaGeorgio]

I was big on the Galaxy Series as it offered something different for Mario. But all the NSMB's I don't think are that amazing. Too much collecting shit, and I never dug the new graphics of 3d in a 2d world. I know graphic's aren't that important but I'd prefer something more in line with Super Mario World personally.

[Kapoutman]

I'm a big fan of the NSMB series, mostly because of the multiplayer aspect of the Wii version. I think I'll buy a 3DS just for that.

But I'm also a big fan of Mario games in general.

[Big Vic]

And just because you can mash your paws on a keyboard don't make you a human!
He's kinda right though

[Damn]

And just because you can mash your paws on a keyboard don't make you a human!

And just because ur mom weigh over 400lbs dont mean ur normal

[Requiem]

Wii was terrible, but SM Galaxy were good Mario games.

[Kane Knight]

I'm a big fan of the NSMB series, mostly because of the multiplayer aspect of the Wii version. I think I'll buy a 3DS just for that.

But I'm also a big fan of Mario games in general.

I hear the Wii ones are friendship enders. ;)

He's kinda right though

Yes, but it's really a non-issue because it wasn't the point. He accused them of losing it. And just because he doesn't like the games doesn't meant they're losing it.

And just because ur mom weigh over 400lbs dont mean ur normal

No, but the fact that I can walk erect does mean I'm normal. Pity the same cannot be said for you.

[Kapoutman]

I hear the Wii ones are friendship enders. ;)


It gets heated every once in a while. Especially because those assholes can't hold down the run button and always trail behind. :mad:

[Kane Knight]

I haven't played it. Mostly because I don't have a Wii anymore. But I have trouble seeing any of my friends being willing to come over.

[Fignuts]

Multiplayer NSMB is a completely different game than single player, and is one of the big reasons why I will be getting a WiiU.

Yes it does get heated. Especially when you pick up and throw your "friend" into a pit, so you can be the one to get the propeller hat.

[Kapoutman]

My friend's girlfriend slows us down sometimes, so I pick her character up and start running. Then sometimes I mistime a jump and her character hits a ceiling, causing her to fall in a pit or hit an enemy. It's things like this that make the game fun (for me).

[Emperor Smeat]

Launch window date might have been revealed to be possibly be occurring around the week of November 23 release date according to D3Publisher who are releasing the Wii U version of Rise of the Guardians around the same time as the movie which is during that week.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/has-wii-us-launch-window-been-outed

Mass Effect 3's Wii U version will include Extended Cut with other DLC being unknown until after they are released on other consoles.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/mass-effect-3%E2%80%99s-wii-u-version-will-include-extended-cut

Two new ZombieU trailers shows off some more gameplay, locations, and communication done in the game.
http://www.screwattack.com/trailers/kill-zombified-royal-guard-buckingham-palace
http://www.giantbomb.com/and-this-second-zombiu-video-takes-you-to-zombie-school/17-6342/

A quick video gameplay walthough of Pikmin 3 was shown during the recent Comic Con expo. Some of the new features and Pikmin characters were discussed during the walkthrough.
http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=181485

[Damn]

I hear the Wii ones are friendship enders. ;)



Yes, but it's really a non-issue because it wasn't the point. He accused them of losing it. And just because he doesn't like the games doesn't meant they're losing it.



No, but the fact that I can walk erect does mean I'm normal. Pity the same cannot be said for you.

I walk erect all the time

[Emperor Smeat]

Rumors are pointing to a September date for the official price announcement either as part of a Nintendo Direct or during the Tokyo Game Show.

A few more places have also rumored the price to be in the $300 range with GameTrailers being a recent one. Majority of the rumors about the price have been in the $300 to $350 range.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/rumor-wii-us-price-and-release-date-might-be-revealed-september

[Purgatory]

I walk erect all the time

The joke was way over your head, sunshine. I would bother trying to clarify it for you, but watching you struggle is far more entertaining.

[Emperor Smeat]

A bunch of Wii U news in regards to the games.

EA confirms the Wii U will be getting Madden 13 and FIFA 13 while Mass Effect 3 will be a launch title for the system. They also revealed videos for both sports titles running on the Wii U during their Summer Showcase event.
http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=182520

Mass Effect 3 for thr Wii U will include an interactive story comic covering the events of Mass Effect 1 and 2 to help with the character creation for Mass Effect 3.
http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=182527

Gamestop might have accidentally leaked out the entire Wii U's launch window lineup with about 25 games expected to be available this holiday (excluding EA games who just made their announcement recently).
http://www.screwattack.com/news/gamestop-may-have-accidentally-leaked-wii-u-game-lineup

[Emperor Smeat]

Probably the biggest rumor involving the Wii U and slowly being picked up by a few other places is that Nintendo and EA are getting involved in a huge feud with each other.

The rumor revolves around the Nintendo Network during the time it was leaked Nintendo was asking Valve and EA for help with EA looking like it would win the bidding request.

Supposedly Nintendo broke the talks after EA wanted exclusive treatment for the network structure and having it tied into Origin which would leave all the power with EA. EA in return has started to kill support for the Wii U with themselves having a mini-feud with their studios who still want to support the Wii U (ex. Bioware, EA's Canada studio for FIFA).

It could also explain the sudden rejection of Crysis 3 for the Wii U since Crytek has the engine running on the system but EA helps fund and publishes the game. Madden itself has been gimped badly for the Wii U.

Valve meanwhile has pledged more support for the Wii U which probably means Nintendo picked them to help work on the Nintendo Network.

This is where the source of the rumor comes from : http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/xnt5r/whatever_happened_to_the_groundbreaking/

Several other sources which are mostly message boards have been trying to tie in several announcements and leaks (ex. Peter Moore's trip to Japan last year) with EA now suddenly dropping or gimping games for the Wii U. Kotaku so far seems to be the only big website that has hinted something is going on between EA and Nintendo in regards to Madden 13 being gimped.

[Kalyx triaD]

Nintendo will live. EA will waste production on gimped games.

[Emperor Smeat]

Rumored box art from Amazon on what Wii U cases will look like.

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width_scaled/hash/e0/78/e0780a7b780291a2ac00b727d6383252.jpg
http://www.screwattack.com/news/rumor-amazon-has-leaked-wii-u-official-box-art

Looks to be similar to the format the Gamecube used for the front with the curved area at top.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/9/2012/08/creedspine.jpg
http://img.gawkerassets.com/post/9/2012/08/wiiu4.jpg

[Emperor Smeat]

European launch is getting delayed by about a month due to production issues involving making the tablet pad.

US still expected to get the console around mid-November while Europe's launch now pushed to a mid-December.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/372482/20120810/wii-u-release-date-2012-usa-price.htm


Next month's Nintendo Direct feed will reveal the price and release date for the console. So far the only teaser done by Nintendo for the feed is that there will be multi-colored Wii U systems and there will be different bundles for the console.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/nintendo-will-have-another-nintendo-direct-next-month

[Emperor Smeat]

According to a leak from Gamestop, the Wii U probably will be released during Black Friday weekend and launch prices will vary from $39.99 to $59.99 (with a few currently having generic place holder values).

http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/_thumbs/Images/2012_8/photo(1).JPG

http://www.screwattack.com/news/rumor-wii-u-due-out-week-black-friday

[Savio]

Not a fan of EA, they are a monopoly

[Emperor Smeat]

A couple of Wii U related news.

The Wii U version of the free-to-play Ghost Recon Online has been delayed due to Ubisoft only has a small team working on both the PC and Wii U version at the same time. They will focus on finishing the PC version first so it can be released on time and then move over to finishing the Wii U version.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/ubisoft-delays-wii-u%E2%80%99s-free-play-ghost-recon-online

Bethesda will not pledge any support for the Wii U for at least the near future with their main concern being they never bothered to request any SDK kits and would need a lot of time to get used to the system if they were to make games for it. The other concern is they don't want to risk making a game for it right now since they don't want to split their studio making current and next gen games at the same time.
http://www.destructoid.com/bethesda-says-wii-u-doesn-t-fit-into-its-plans-yet-234558.phtml

[Drakul]

There is a Wii U presentation on Nintendo Direct on the 13th of this month at 3pm UK time.

I've read some think we may get info on Smash Bros as well as release dates and prices.

[Drakul]

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[G]

Basic: $300
Deluxe: $350

[Drakul]

Wii U is out in November and Bayonetta is a Wii U exclusive, published by Nintendo. Other than that, there wasn't any real news.

[Emperor Smeat]

Surprised NintendoLands won't be a packed in title for both editions.


The Basic set - containing a white Wii U, with 8 GB of flash memory
The Deluxe Set - containing a black Wii U, with 32 GB of flash memory and NintendoLand

All sets will contain a Gamepad, AC adapter for both the console and Gamepad, a sensor bar, and HDMI cable. No Wii peripherals will be included at this time.

November 18th release date in the US/Canada followed by Japan a few weeks later.

Call of Duty 2 confirmed for the Wii U. Monster Hunter 3 for the Wii U in Japan. New Super Mario Bros U confirmed as a launch title. Project P-101 now called The Wonderful 101.

Nintendo TVii is included with every console and makes it easier to watch tv on the device since the toughpad is used.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/wii-u-releasing-november-18th-300-350
http://www.screwattack.com/news/nintendo-tvii-trite-necessary-remain-competitive
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/09/13/the-full-wii-u-launch-window-release-list

Missed the livestream but did they mention how much a tablet controller will be in the US since its $170 in Japan?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Bayonetta 2 is Wii U exclusive. Fucking sold.

[Drakul]

UK prices:

GAME Basic Model: £259.99
GAME Premium Model: £309.99

Amazon Basic Model: £249.99
Amazon Premium Model: £284.99

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Errrr fuck. Do your Amazon premium pre-order now. I just did it after the Bayonetta 2 news. Came up as £199.99 and Amazon are really good at upholding their mistakes.

[Drakul]

Yeah I preordered it before I posted. When I went to preorder the premium it was £269.99 or something. By the time I logged in it had jumped up by £20.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The listing was as you said, 284.99. By the time I got to check out, it was £199.99. My conformation email is £199.99. My buddy in the bar is trying now and I think it's back to full price. If they fulfill me, it's the deal of the century.

[Drakul]

I think they do the same as GAME and pretty much everyone else. If you preorder at £200, you pay £200. If they increase the price, you still pay just £200. If they lower it, you're charged the new low price.

Really Wish I had gotten to the site sooner.

[Drakul]

It's back to £199.99 but I can't buy it. Guessing everyone snapped up all the preorders at the good price.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Buddy sees it on the listings at 199.99 but gets it 284.99 when he gets to checkout. My confirmation email is at £199.99. I got the opposite <3

[Kalyx triaD]

Well played Nintendo.

Well played.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Amazon just told me they're honouring my £199.99 premium pre-order after my email. Compared to Game, that's a £110 saving.

Launch line- up... Meh. Nintendo franchises AND exclusive Bayonetta 2 means I must have done something right.

[Emperor Smeat]

Gamestop in the US is offering $60 for any Wii traded-in and higher if its an Xbox 360 or PS3 for a Wii U pre-order.

No real limit to how much extra storage can be added by the way of the USB ports with Nintendo joking about if you feel like having 3 TB worth of storage space, you can. Any flash storage device will work and Nintendo won't be like Sony and only requesting propriety stuff.

Europe will be getting a special bundle which includes ZombiU.
The ZombiU Premium Pack will feature a black 32GB model of Wii U, a black Pro Controller, and a copy of Ubisoft survival horror ZombiU.

European superstore Tesco will sell the ZombiU bundle at £329, according to its official website, while GAME will sell the bundle at £349.99, according to its official Twitter. Prices are likely to vary as European retailers set their individual prices by law.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/gamestop-taking-wii-u-pre-orders-offering-60-for-your-old-wii/
http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/9/13/3327484/zombiu-premium-pack-bundle-available-at-wii-u-launch
http://www.destructoid.com/wii-u-allows-for-memory-expansion-via-usb-234947.phtml

[Drakul]

The price on Amazon seems to have finally settled at £300. The premium console comes with Nintendoland and we can probably transfer our downloaded games to it, so I'm in no mad rush to buy an actual Wii U game. I just want to know I have the console. Then I can buy NSMBU a couple of weeks later.

Amazon just told me they're honouring my £199.99 premium pre-order after my email. Compared to Game, that's a £110 saving.

http://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/snow3.png
Damn you, Hasney.

[Drakul]

The internet is awash with people crying over the Bayonetta 2 thing:
http://i.imgur.com/Ls4DX.png

Some even dishing out death threats:
http://i.imgur.com/95nC9.jpg

[#BROKEN Hasney]

What are Platinum thinking? Nintendo were the only ones who wanted to publish it in the end. That's what they're thinking. Sega's logo is on the game, but that's purely because they still have the deal in place. Sega didn't want to take the financial risk publishing it so Nintendo decided they'll take it and make it for WiiU. It was Nintendo or nothing from what I've seen.

That and the other Platinum Games one are the 2 I'm most hyped for.

[Drakul]

The exclusivity and the game being published by Nintendo has people saying it confirms Bayonetta for the next Smash Bros.

I doubt it, considering Smash Bros doesn't allow characters to shoot guns (which is why everyone has laser guns and Snake only shoots rockets, not bullets) and I think shooting guns is all Bayonetta does.

I never played the game.

[Kalyx triaD]

Silly gamers. There wouldn't be Bayo2 without Nintendo taking the reigns. Idiots. It was this or nothing.

[Drakul]

I'm thinking we might see GTA V on the Wii U. R* have been saying we'd get "more info" soon after the screenshots and they previously never gave a list of which platforms the game would release for and when.

Now the Wii U has a date, maybe we'll get a trailer soon that include a release date and the Wii U as one of the platforms?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I can see the Wii U having good 3rd party support for now. How good it will be after the next MS and Sony consoles come out will depend on how well it sells.

Even then, the 3rd parties could still get the Wii-itus again and just push out "Here's a half-arsed version of a game you could be playing on a more advanced console.... BUT WAIT, A WILD GIMMICKY USE OF THE CONTROLLER APPEARS"

[The Rogerer]

The exclusivity and the game being published by Nintendo has people saying it confirms Bayonetta for the next Smash Bros.

I doubt it, considering Smash Bros doesn't allow characters to shoot guns (which is why everyone has laser guns and Snake only shoots rockets, not bullets) and I think shooting guns is all Bayonetta does.

I never played the game.That's not true, although the game is always marketed as a shooter it's actually a brawler. I don't think she'll be in it, though, as she's in Anarchy Rules.

As a fan of Bayonetta, I was always under the impression that a sequel wasn't going to be made and I'm not upset about it much at all. Chasing sequels isn't healthy and it's no wonder all these chaps are so unsatisfied with life.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeah, if you ever played Devil May Cry, Bayonetta is a very similar vein. Give it a shot if you see it cheap Drakul, it is a fantastic game.

If Nintendo want to save any other franchises from Sega's mis-management, I could do with a new non-handheld Valkyria Chronicles in the west.

[OssMan]

I don't want to play any of the games so far

[The Rogerer]

I really liked Valkyria Chronicles in concept, but I started to get sick of it towards the end with the amount of times they would screwjob you in the middle of a mission. I got to Chapter 16 and stalled.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Finished the first and loved it, like the second one too but had to abort halfway through when my PSP nub decided to keep dragging to the left, wasting my movement points.

Shame Nintendo can't just buy Sega. Could see them doing right by a few of their franchises. The only game series I consistently like from Sega these days is Yakuza.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

On September 13, 2012 Bayonetta 2 was announced as an exclusive title under development for the Wii U during the Nintendo Direction presentation held on the same day.

As game developers, we are incredibly excited to be able to announce a new title to all of our fans; however, we are aware that the announcement may have come as a shock to many of you.

As with Bayonetta, Bayonetta 2 is under development and production here at PlatinumGames, and is a true sequel to the acclaimed first game in the series. Bayonetta is one of our most beloved titles, and it played a large part in establishing PlatinumGames as an emerging game studio in the minds of users worldwide. Bayonetta has fans the world over, and we would never dream of alienating them from participating in the future of PlatinumGames.

That being said, the console games market is in a state of upheaval, so establishing a new game franchise requires a considerable amount of will, determination, and love. Bayonetta is a brand that we want to see become stronger, reaching the hands of more and more gamers, so we have continued to consult with SEGA, the previous game’s publisher, on how we can make sure this takes place. Our answer was a new partnership with Nintendo.

Along with their new hardware, Nintendo, as a company, is dedicated to establishing a new future for the games industry, as you can tell by their record of passionate support for gaming. Alongside Nintendo, we hope to grow the Bayonetta brand beyond where it stands today, allowing even more gamers around the world to experience the action of our beloved witch. As developers, we are working hard to make this a reality.

We hope that you will look forward to what we have in store.

Sega didn't want it, Nintendo did. Fair play to everyone involved. Love that it's happening at all, I don't care what it's on.

[Emperor Smeat]

Nintendo hints it probably won't be until after March 2013 that the patch or support for multiple touchpads will be done for games.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/want-two-wii-u-gamepads-too-bad

[Drakul]

If anyone missed it during the live conference:
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/f0ojKNYk9aU?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Kalyx triaD]

Perhaps the best visuals in a Mario game, though Galaxy looked really good.

[Drakul]

I'm wondering what the Wii U equivilent to Galaxy will be.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm sure Mario will have a 'main series' adventure sometime, every Nintendo console housed one (sometimes two).

[Drakul]

We had Land, then World and then Galaxy. Super Mario Universe?

[Kalyx triaD]

Good call.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

According to Nintendo's site, here are the games listed as being available on launch day. Not the window, the actual day.


Rayman Legends
Black Ops 2
Assassin’s Creed III
ZombiU
Mass Effect 3: Special Edition
Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition
TEKKEN TAG TOURNAMENT 2
Scribblenauts Unlimited
Epic Mickey 2: The Power of Two
Rabbids Land
Just Dance 4
Marvel Avengers: Battle for Earth
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
MADDEN NFL 13
NBA 2K13
TRANSFORMERS PRIME
Your Shape Fitness Evolved 2013
Game Party Champions
ESPN Sports Connection
Darksiders II
Nintendo Land
New Super Mario Bros. U


That's pretty damn solid. I'm down for Scribblenauts. Then I've just got to pick between Rayman, Mario & ZombiU

[Drakul]

I'm only getting Nintendoland with my premium console and I'm going to get NSMBU the same day.
Rayman looks cool with the whole dynamic music thing but it can wait. ZombiU looks cool but I'd probably not want to actually play it. Sonic Racing will probably be a 360 game for me, as will any future fitness games.

I'm looking forward to seeing what they put on the eShop.

We still can't play Mario online, can we?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

No. I'm kind of glad that you can't. It's bad enough playing with people in the same room who you know personally. Can you imagine the level of rage from some individuals online at playing that game when they don't know you? Griefing abound.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'd probably watch "Let's Play New Super Mario Bros U Online with your host Fallen Angel" until he dies of a rage-related heart attack though.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Also assuming the camera never faced him.

[Drakul]

It would have been useful for playing with friends and family. I have a young nephew in England and he's really into the Mario Bros, always wanting to play multiplayer with me when he comes to visit. It would have been cool if I could have played online with him and my sister or something.

It would have been a laugh playing online with the right friends but it would have been insanely frustrating with strangers.

I also wonder if they'd ever have custom levels in an actual Mario game.

[Emperor Smeat]

We still can't play Mario online, can we?

No. I think the official reason still from Nintendo is due to them not wanting to deal with lag issues since Mario platforming is precession based and not wanting to bother reworking the traditional death setup to work online.

[OssMan]

I still haven't finished New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Every time I play it my fucking girlfriend blames me for everything going wrong even though it is her fault 95% of the time. Stupid

[mrslackalack]

I preordered the basic version at Best Buy online & preordered Mario Bros. U before they sold out.

[Emperor Smeat]

Unity Engine is being ported over with the sole purpose of making it easier for indie developers to create and port games to the Nintendo Network.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/unity-engine-coming-wii-u-all-you-indie-hopefuls

New screens and a few details were revealed for Monster Hunter 3 on the Wii U. At least 200 more quests and touchpad controls are some of the new stuff being added in comparison to what was done with Tri which is the basis for the Wii U version.
http://www.screwattack.com/news/get-lowdown-monster-hunter-3-ultimate-tgs-2012

[Emperor Smeat]

Nintendo outlines some of their long term plans with the Wii U itself not getting any price cuts for at least 3 years or 2015 if it follows the same path as the Wii. The tablet might between that time considering its being rumored to cost around $100 to $150 if it were to be sold separately right now (its not until mid 2013).
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/nintendo-wii-u-not-getting-a-price-cut-for-at-least-three-years/

Also just like every other Nintendo console, the Wii U will be region locked.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/forget-about-imports-nintendo-to-region-lock-the-wii-u/

[Drakul]

Reggie Fis-Aime said, yesterday, there were more games in the launch window (launch until March 2013) that hadn't been announced yet. Then this popped up today:

Norwegian retailer CDON has, as it should, a page up ready for people order Wii U games. It's also got something most other retailers don't: listings for games many Nintendo fans can only dream of.

Among the known and incoming games like Tank!Tank!Tank! and New Super Mario Bros. U, there are listings for games that are not only unannounced, but are surely the work of naught but daydreams and broken wishbones.

Like Fire Emblem Wii U. Doom 4, a game that is yet to be officially shown off in any capacity. A Wii U version of Endless Ocean. Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Wii U. Kingdom Hearts Wii U. Nintendogs Wii U. There's even a listing for a game that would be perfect for the system, a Wii U edition of surgery simulator Trauma Centre.

Sure, there's a remote chance that some of these are real, if only through the power of coincidence, but for most, come on.

Before you laugh, don't! This kind of thing is great. Shows somebody at head office is either conveniently incompetent or, as seems more likely, is quietly, and on the company dollar, dreaming out loud.

Though the lack of Wind Waker HD shows they're not dreaming hard enough.

Leak or wishful thinking?

[Kalyx triaD]

Nintendo itself wishes it had a lineup like that.

[Emperor Smeat]

Rayman Legends has been delayed and won't be available at launch. No reason was given but the new release date is early 2013 (Jan-March).
http://www.screwattack.com/news/rayman-legends-delayed-until-2013


The current but still being developed menu system for the Wii U tablet was shown off recently at the Nintendo World Store with someone taking video footage of it.
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/sk2NyS0UQ8c" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Emperor Smeat]

Latest Iwata Asks show reveals some of the inner components of the Wii U and the revelation that the toughest thing Nintendo had to solve was keeping the prototypes from overheating. They said it took a while to optimize the air ventilation design and power consumption but they've fixed the problem with recent model designs.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/nintendo-reveals-clear-white-wii-u-details-heat-and-design-challenges/


According to Nintendo, New Super Mario Bros. U will be the first game from them to be in 1080p resolution when its released as part of the Wii U's launch. Demos of the game were rumored to be in 720p but the actual game will be in 1080p.
http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-confirms-that-new-super-mario-bros-u-is-1080p-236490.phtml


Warner Bros released a video showing off all the gameplay and tablet upgrades the Wii U version will have compared to last year's PS3 and Xbox 360 versions.
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[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Anybody think of this when you heard about the name of this console?

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[OssMan]

Zombi U looks fucking dreadful. Why hasn't the zombie craze ended yet?

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Gamestop the Wii Pro Controller can last about 80 hours on a single charge.
http://gimmegimmegames.com/2012/10/wii-u-pro-controller-battery-last-80-hours-on-one-charge-doesnt-work-with-any-wii-games/

Capcom is aware of requests for Darkstalkers Resurrection on the Wii U and could consider it for the future after the other platforms are done. Only reason it wasn't listed originally was when they started development, they knew nothing about the Wii U's online structure.
http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=187932

Square Enix rumored to be porting a "major franchise" game to the Wii U and are using the development team working on Mass Effect 3 for the Wii U as help with the port. The project has been worked on since June of this year.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/major-square-enix-title-porting-to-wii-u-via-mass-effect-3-devs/

Gamestop believes Rayman Legends will arrive by March 5th of next year.
http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=187952

[Emperor Smeat]

Wii U version of Scribblenauts Unlimited revealed to have Mario and Zelda series characters as an exclusive feature.
http://www.destructoid.com//ul/236941-s1.jpg
http://www.destructoid.com/scribblenauts-unlimited-for-wii-u-has-nintendo-characters-236941.phtml


Nintendo announces Pikmin 3 has a release date of Spring 2013.
http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-pikmin-3-is-scheduled-for-a-spring-2013-release-236954.phtml

[LuigiD]

holy shit.

[Drakul]

They did a teaser image for Scribblenauts where they just had the sillouettes of the Mario/Zelda cast. It was obvious then who it was.

If they include other Mario characters, maybe we could summon a Starman and just be invincable. The Master Sword would make enemies easy.

Maybe they'll include Maxwell in SSB? :shifty:

[Emperor Smeat]

Some details regarding Voice chatting which will be supported better than it was for the Wii (just a handful of games) although its not a unified system.

* Voice chat support will be on a game-by-game basis. No overall system of voice chat support is currently built into the Wii U.
* As of now, the mic built into the Wii U GamePad cannot be used for voice chatting.
* Wired headsets will be coming, which will plug into the headphone jack of the GamePad. As of now, there are no plans for wireless headsets.
* Nintendo’s Pro Controller has no jack for headset support. So, if you’re using the Pro Controller but want to take part in voice chatting, you’ll need to plug your headset into the GamePad, and set it somewhere nearby while playing.

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/details-on-the-wii-us-support-for-voice-chatting/

[Kalyx triaD]

Strange.

[Drakul]

Read the voice chat thing a while ago. I think the "game by game basis" sounds like a good idea.
That way, when a kind gets verbally assaulted on a game, his mum can't complain because it was most likely a mature rated game and kids shouldn't be playing them anyway.

It is a bit weird that we need the pad, though, but it's obvious that someone will eventually make a wireless headset, so you have your pad in the charging cradle and the headset reciever plugged in. No battery drain.

I think the fact we can't use the built in pad mic is an obvious strrategy from Nintendo. They'll eventually allow it. Like the 3DS card limits. The game cards can hold something like 8 gigs but Nintendo only allows the use of 2.5 gigs right now, or something. You know in a couple years, they'll let devs use the whole 8 gigs and we'll get bigger and prettier games.

[SNLfunnyguy]

Can't wait for this.

Not sure whether to get Black Ops 2 on this or Xbox though. My head is saying Xbox.

[Emperor Smeat]

EA revealed it was very easy for them to port Origin to the service with the only big difference is the Network does not store Credit Card info for security reasons and contains Mii-related info.

Everything else is basically the same as an account on any other platform (ex. Steam, XBL, Origin, etc).

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/10/23/ea-privacy-policy-mentions-nintendo-network-id-origin-on-wii/

[Dukelorange]

I'll get the system... My thing is this: are they going to have the 3rd party games to support the system. They have the controller and graphics to support the Call of Duties and Maddens... Heck Madden games will fair better if they put the playbook and hot routes on the gamepad screen.

[Emperor Smeat]

Nintendo revealed the Wii U will be their first console (and second system in a row) they will be selling at a loss when its launched.

The tablet controller is the biggest culprit since its rumored Nintendo makes around $50-$180 on the Wii U alone but the tablet eats up the entire profit and more.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/wii-u-will-be-selling-loss-according-nintendo


Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge for the Wii was revealed to have a November 18 release date along with a list of the exclusive features for this version besides the previously known new battle system and online modes.
* Ayane is a playable character
* Both Ryu and Ayane are playable in co-op mode
* More playable characters coming as DLC
* Test of Valor battle areas -- hidden battles in each chapter
* Enemies can fight while severely wounded
* Wii U GamePad controls -- change weapons, reference combos, etc.

http://www.destructoid.com/ninja-gaiden-3-razor-s-edge-wii-u-dated-nov-18-237394.phtml


Ubisoft reveals Rayman Legends is playable without the Wii U tablet for those who favor the Pro Controller and that Murphy is an optional character to use after people complained about not using Rayman for the whole game.
http://nintendoeverything.com/103112/you-can-play-through-rayman-legends-without-murphygamepad/