Night of Champions Dropped

[Xero]

From PWInsider:

The WWE Night of Champions PPV will be undergoing a name change and has already been officially dropped from WWE's calendar. Whether that name change will include a change of the "every title defended" theme remains to be seen.

The PPV formerly known as the 2011 Night of Champions PPV is scheduled for 9/18 at the HSBC Arena in Buffalo, NY.

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First Fatal Four Way, now Night of Champions.

Don't really have a problem with them dropping the gimmick PPVs, especially Fatal Four Way. In fact I'd say it's a step in the right direction, especially if they're labeling them more generic PPVs (without a gimmick). But NoC was a good gimmick IMO. Probably the only new one, along with Elimination Chamber, that I would have kept.

[Jordan]

They don't have 8 titles anymore though, so it's kinda pointless. I liked the name, and the idea of it... but it always seemed a little out of place. Night of Champions should be a big PPV on the level of Summerslam, but it's not, just never had that feel to it. I saw WWE had a poll to try and get a new name, I think WWE Vengeance is a good name, especially after Summerslam.

[Cool King]

Yeah, I liked the gimmick too.

I'm a bit surprised that it's been dropped though. For some reason, I thought NoC was one their more successful gimmick PPV's. :-\

[XL]

Yeah, didn't mind NoC as a gimmick because it still allowed for variety. But as FragX pointed out, they don't have enough belts to pad the card out.

On the plus side, it means they don't have to switch titles around just to get the guys they want on the card.

[JimmyMess]

Wasn't vengeance the name of an old pay per view? That would work.

And speaking of Champions.... whatever happened to the proposed World Championship/WWE Title merger?

[Droford]

Night of the Living Jobbers

[Xero]

Wasn't vengeance the name of an old pay per view? That would work.

And speaking of Champions.... whatever happened to the proposed World Championship/WWE Title merger?

Vengeance was NoC's original name (when it was still in July, anyway).

And that's still possible down the line. Time will tell. I wouldn't be surprised if they're going for one title merge a year. So this year will be the IC/US and next year will be the WHC/WWE.

And I can agree that it wasn't as big as other PPVs when it should have been one of the biggest, and that they needed to move titles around to get people on. But it was still a good concept, and if the titles actually meant something would have drawn huge.

If they were going to keep it, I'd say include the King of the Ring on the card, to pad it out a bit. That way all the titles are on the line and the KOTR is crowned (either showing the finals or semi finals and finals).

[JimmyMess]

Ahh I see. Spanks Xero.

As for the King of the Ring, as much as I would love for that to return to glory as a ppv caliber event, it seems like they've essentially killed it as something important since turning it into a MNRAW thing.

[Gertner]

It'll never happen and it's an old bit but WAR GAMES!!!!!

[JimmyMess]

It'll never happen and it's an old bit but WAR GAMES!!!!!


:y: agreed.

[BizarroKing]

I remember they recently proposed 4 different possible names:

-WWE Vengeance
-WWE Champions
-WWE Revolution
-WWE Uprising

[whiteyford]

It'll never happen and it's an old bit but WAR GAMES!!!!!

HHH is supposed to be a fan, its Vince thats against using someone elses gimmick match, so we might get it eventually. Would be an ideal mainevent for Bragging Rights or Survivor Series too.

[M-A-G]

Well they had to drop it. Otherwise we'd have people thinking the titles were important and stuff.

[XL]

They should have pulled War Games out last year.

They did 7-on-7 at SummerSlam, there was a 7-on-7 at Bragging Rights and a 5-on-5 at Survivor Series. One of those should have been replaced by War Games.

[XL]

Wasn't vengeance the name of an old pay per view? That would work.

And speaking of Champions.... whatever happened to the proposed World Championship/WWE Title merger?
My lasting memory of Vengeance as a PPV is when they did 2 PPVs with the name in the space of 8 months (Dec 01 and July 02). Thought that was an odd choice.

As for the merger...isn't that one of those rumours created by the IWC? Like the WCW theme for this past Hall of Fame?

[JimmyMess]

I'm not sure, I just remembered reading about it around the start of the year/December. Probably was something drummed up by the IWC

[Rammsteinmad]

I think there were 'insider reports' a while back that suggested that a title merger was being considered.

[M-A-G]

Are you sure they were insider reports? Are you sure they weren't...NOTHING?

[Sycophant]

Probably came from Ryan Clark an his "source from within the company." What an ass hat.

[Gertner]

That's what happens when 411mania or PWI doesn't give him news to steal.

[Lock Jaw]

Probably dropped Night of Champions because they realized that they didn't care about actually booking any title that wasn't the WWE/World Championship.

[Snowden]

Its a shame, as this'll be one less time that a US/IC champ will get some PPV exposure.

It was a good gimmick, but in the end, with only 6 titles on the books, the gimmick would either force them to put non championship feuds on the card, clusterfuck the main events (which there are plenty of other gimmick PPVs for) or leaving ME talent off the PPV. None of those are really that great of an idea.

[BizarroKing]

6 matches probably could have been enough for a PPV if they made them long enough, but WWE probably thinks it wouldn't work

[Not Booked]

6 matches probably could have been enough for a PPV if they made them long enough, but WWE probably thinks it wouldn't work

They could have easily done 6 title matches and filled things out with a number one contender match or two. The winner(s) could even wrestle again later in the night.

This video makes wargames look better than i remember it:
http://youtu.be/EOXvevF3w5g (sorry embedding is disabled)

[Team Sheep]

I'm glad. Never enjoyed this PPV. Most matches just felt forced to get the title on the card. I'd rather watch more natural feuds make it to PPV, title or not. Bring back Vengeance I say.

[DLVH84]

Resurrect the Vengeance!!!

[Xero]

Resurrect The Wrestling Classic!!!

[DLVH84]

That's not a bad idea, Xero. Resurrecting The Wrestling Classic. Nice choice.

[M-A-G]

6 matches probably could have been enough for a PPV if they made them long enough, but WWE probably thinks it wouldn't work

Backlash 2007

[Shisen Kopf]

They should go back to In Your House and then give each ppv a name like this one tonight could be In Your House: Sit on my face

[parkmania]

I always felt Night of Champions was a HORRIBLY executed PPV. If they had called it "Night of Champions Retaining" it would have been more reflective of the product the WWE was selling:

2007 (the first year they used the NoC name): Champions were 7-1. Candice Michelle beat Melina in the only title change that night (Johnny Nitro beat CM Punk for the vacant ECW title.)

2008: Champions were 5.5-2.5. Kane lost the ECW belt to Mark Henry in a triple threat that included Big Show, Kofi beat Jericho for the IC belt, and Cody Rhodes jettisoned Hardcore Holly in favor of Ted DiBiase for the World Tag titles.

2009: Champions were 5-3. Christian beat Tommy Dreamer for the ECW belt, Mickie James beat Maryse for the Women's belt, and Jeff Harvey beat CM Punk for the WHC.

2010: Champions were 3-4. Daniel Bryan beat The Miz for the US title, Melina lost to McTaker in a unification match, Cody Rhodes and Drew McIntyre won a Tag Team Turmoil match while not facing the previous champs (Hart Dynasty), and Orton won a Six-Pack challenge for the WWE Championship. Also, in the only aired non-title match in NoC history, Big Show beat CM Punk.

So overall, the reigning title-holder was 20.5-10.5 (19.5-6.5 if you just want to talk about one on one non-unification matches).



Was the NoC just at the wrong point in the schedule for decent feuds to have been built that title changes would have an impact, or was it just set up to hype the people who HAD the belts?

[CSL]

So as opposed to 'Night of Champions Retaining', you'd have preferred 'Night of Champions until the Champion loses and isn't Champion anymore'? I don't see why you'd think guys retaining belts is a bad thing, the show was promoted as having titles on the line in all matches or something similar.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

God I can't believe they're retaining the titles! So predictable!

Why isn't there any long title reigns anymore? Always hotshotting them!

[parkmania]

I just want there to be SOME unpredicatability to the card, and 4 out of 4 times I found that lacking at NoC.

[M-A-G]

I always find the term 'unpredictability' being used in regards to wrestling was a tad hilarious. Everything is essentially predictiable since there's only a finite number of possibilities that a.) make sense in terms of the stories or b.) will lead to more money being made. You may not always predict everything wrong but that doesn't equate to the product needing to throw more curveballs at you. Hell, when the WWE has tried stuff that no one saw coming, I've never seen so many sh*tstorms being tossed about from the online community about how it didn't make sense or some other crap.

[Xero]

From PWInsider:

WWE Bragging Rights is no more. The 10/23 PPV set for San Antonio, Texas is now titled WWE Uprising.

[Volare]

No more Bragging Rights trophy! Dammit!

[Mr. Nerfect]

I liked Bragging Rights, but they can easily do the concept at Survivor Series. I think that time of year suffers from clutter, which would probably have at least some effect on how the PPVs do during that period. But Night of Champions was a good idea that was poorly executed. I say poorly executed just because at the time of the PPV the WWE hadn't thought ahead and really booked guys into championship matches. Also, with unified titles, it becomes a bit harder. Now, they could just get the champions to work longer matches, as most WWE PPVs these days are only seven matches long anyway, but I can understand why they just decided to bin the name -- they can keep the concept, without it being "official," so they can throw in a feud that will draw more, etc.

I still don't see the WWE doesn't have King of the Ring as a PPV these days. It'd be something different, and with the right amount of promotion and the right push for the guy who wins (ie. Perhaps them going on a losing streak right after winning isn't the best idea), the concept could be one of those "can't miss" events every year AND could feed other PPVs (if the King gets a title shot at the next PPV or something).

[Team Sheep]

Thank god Bragging Rights has gone too. It was so stupid. The days of any brand loyalty ended about 6 years ago.

[Asmo]

So will there be a gimmick to Uprising? Is it about underused talent finally getting a PPV of their own? Think Superstars, but on PPV? Or will it lead to a new stable, ala the Nexus when it first debuted?

Too many questions!?!?

[Schlomey]

Orton vs Cena at Bragging Rights 1 in the Iron Man Match was one of the best matches WWE has produced in years. And it involved Cena (who I don't care for much) and Orton (who typically bores me on PPV).

I'll kind of miss this PPV I dug the concept...Just hated the placement right around Survivor Series time and also the fact that brands don't matter anymore...until Bragging Rights.


Say La Veee

[Sixx]

I always felt Night of Champions was a HORRIBLY executed PPV. If they had called it "Night of Champions Retaining" it would have been more reflective of the product the WWE was selling:

2007 (the first year they used the NoC name): Champions were 7-1. Candice Michelle beat Melina in the only title change that night (Johnny Nitro beat CM Punk for the vacant ECW title.)

2008: Champions were 5.5-2.5. Kane lost the ECW belt to Mark Henry in a triple threat that included Big Show, Kofi beat Jericho for the IC belt, and Cody Rhodes jettisoned Hardcore Holly in favor of Ted DiBiase for the World Tag titles.

2009: Champions were 5-3. Christian beat Tommy Dreamer for the ECW belt, Mickie James beat Maryse for the Women's belt, and Jeff Harvey beat CM Punk for the WHC.

2010: Champions were 3-4. Daniel Bryan beat The Miz for the US title, Melina lost to McTaker in a unification match, Cody Rhodes and Drew McIntyre won a Tag Team Turmoil match while not facing the previous champs (Hart Dynasty), and Orton won a Six-Pack challenge for the WWE Championship. Also, in the only aired non-title match in NoC history, Big Show beat CM Punk.

So overall, the reigning title-holder was 20.5-10.5 (19.5-6.5 if you just want to talk about one on one non-unification matches).



Was the NoC just at the wrong point in the schedule for decent feuds to have been built that title changes would have an impact, or was it just set up to hype the people who HAD the belts?

20.5-10.5!

Night of Champions Where Champions Retain About Twice as Often as They Don't

[Schlomey]

I don't think a champ retaining is a bad thing? And 1/2 of the time the title did change hands.sooooooo? whats the beef? That's a pretty high number ?


Full of questions.

[XCaliber]

Uprising sounds pretty ghey if you ask me at least Bragging Rights had a purpose whereas this sounds more like a PPV that showcases newbies which I can't see happening that's nXt is for.

[Schlomey]

I am a fan of less gimmick PPV's. That idea was quick and sailed it seems.

[parkmania]

OK, so maybe the numbers aren't as skewed as I thought they were - I just remember ALWAYS feeling disappointed after NOC and felt that there were always multiple opportunities to actually DO something with SOMEBODY each year, but the writers just said "Nah, we're good."

[VSG]

Clearly this music will play the Raw before the PPV, and Goldberg, Paul Heyman, Austin, (insert your favourite ex-wrestler here) will come in.

<iframe width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/vQVoQXahwao" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Dirk Ziggler]

WWE presents Night of Cena

[Schlomey]

OK, so maybe the numbers aren't as skewed as I thought they were - I just remember ALWAYS feeling disappointed after NOC and felt that there were always multiple opportunities to actually DO something with SOMEBODY each year, but the writers just said "Nah, we're good."

or an actually good Cena match is ruined by Kevin Federline. :nono::nono::nono:

[Xero]

Looks like Uprising is scrapped and they're going with Vengeance.

From PWInsider:

According to the official AT & T Center website, the WWE pay-per-view on October 23rd, 2011 has been renamed again, with the new name being "Vengeance". The event was originally called "Bragging Rights" and "Uprising". WWE has used the name "Vengeance" for pay-per-views in the past.

[BizarroKing]

I wonder if they'll still use Uprising? Maybe use it for September and replace Night Of Champions.

[Xero]

Would have made sense just to do Vengeance as the NOC replacement, since NOC replaced Vengeance.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I was getting into the name "Uprising." You know, in 2009 when they did the "Breakout Battle Royal" which Sheamus won to earn a title shot - I actually thought that could be a pretty sweet PPV concept. Have an event where all the challengers for championships have never held them before.

[Lock Jaw]

New Blood Rising

[Xero]

From PWInsider:

To follow up on a Q and A question we had from earlier today, Josh Jabcuga just sent the following, which WWE just sent out to its email subscribers in the Buffalo, NY area.

WWE Presents Night of Champions
Sunday, September 18th, 2011 at 7:45pm

The one event a year when every WWE championship is on the line is coming to Buffalo for the first time in four years. WWE PPV comes to HSBC Arena on September 18 at 7:45pm. See all your favorite superstars, including:

* JOHN CENA
* RANDY ORTON
* THE MIZ
* CHRISTIAN
* REY MYSTERIO
* THE BIG SHOW
* KANE
* ALBERTO DEL RIO
* KOFI KINGSTON
* SHEAMUS
* JOHN MORRISON
* R-TRUTH

…and more!

Tickets go on sale Saturday, June 25, at 10am. Tickets are priced at $252.50, $92.50, $72.50, $47.50 and $27.50, which include $2.50 facility fee. There will be a random handbill policy in effect. Handbills are available now. Tickets can be purchased at the HSBC Arena Box Office and at www.tickets.com. All dates, acts and ticket prices are subject to change without notice. For more information, or to charge by phone, call toll free at (888) 223-6000. Tickets are subject to applicable service charges (no service charge applies at HSBC Arena Box Office).

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lol back to NOC.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Night of Champions...undropped.

[Volare]

Anything can happen in the WWE!

[Asmo]

I like the Night Of Champions concept. All the titles up for grabs, in what should be strong matches of exceptional calibre. The PPV has the potential to be one of WWE's strongest, and yet, as parkmania said, it ends off like a McDonald's burger - it's alright, but it never hits the spot.