What is this I hear about CM Punk? *Official Thread*

[HBPunk]

But your mother is only $25 and it isn't the same satisfaction as pissing of Kalyx.

Holy shit thats unique!

I don't think you can even get Cheetos over here. Or they're not readily available at the very least.

Also, we don't really have basements.

And I'm by no means out of shape.

So, that "net geek" image dn't really work on me. Know your audience.


And I'm the one who can't let things be?

Honestly, I'm just enjoying seeing if you will keep responding.

Well i cant let my boy down so ummm im happy you are in shape dude. im about 6'0 175 probly cud be a bit more built but im happy out, no fat anyway which is all good :y: Now you go!

[Hanso Amore]

What is sad is this.

This was a cool moment.

Hes still leaving. Most WWE fans arent foaming after this. You all are. Cena is going to retain and this is all jsut a nice Push to sell some tickets. I cannot wait until cena wins, and you all come back to earth.

Vince MacMahon doesnt care about this shit. HE cares about making money. And while we think it would, and it probably could, Vince isnt going to break out of his bullshit plan.

[Rammsteinmad]

On the other hand, most people don't get much attention/TV time when they've made it known they're leaving the company.

I'm staying mutual about the whole thing... I hope he stays, but maybe the possibility of some company crossovers with ROH isn't so unbelievable. They did do it with ECW in the 90's...

[HBPunk]

We will see you back here when Punk has the WWE Title around his waist Tranny boy

[Rammsteinmad]

Also, as much as WWE caters to 'casual fans'... with the internet playing a huge role in WWE these days, I'm sure WWE realise a guy like CM Punk appeals too much to internet fans like us. I DUNNO.

[HBPunk]

The Rock on Twat-ter

“CM Punk: it’s simple business – The Rock is the main event at Wrestlemania cause it draws more money in one night, then u will in lifetime.”

The Rock is a terrific writer anyway

[CSL]

They are Wotsits. Not Cheetos. Even if they are the same thing essentially.

they're exactly the same thing, only in a different packaging

[HBPunk]

What is sad is this.

This was a cool moment.

Hes still leaving. Most WWE fans arent foaming after this. You all are. Cena is going to retain and this is all jsut a nice Push to sell some tickets. I cannot wait until cena wins, and you all come back to earth.

Vince MacMahon doesnt care about this shit. HE cares about making money. And while we think it would, and it probably could, Vince isnt going to break out of his bullshit plan.

How do you know what most WWE fans are doing without seeing what most of them think on a wrestling website?? Do you personally know millions of WWE fans? Along with us foaming, you also got current WWE stars, past WWE stars, current agents, JR, current TNA stars etc

[What Would Kevin Do?]

What is sad is this.

This was a cool moment.

Hes still leaving. Most WWE fans arent foaming after this. You all are. Cena is going to retain and this is all jsut a nice Push to sell some tickets. I cannot wait until cena wins, and you all come back to earth.

Vince MacMahon doesnt care about this shit. HE cares about making money. And while we think it would, and it probably could, Vince isnt going to break out of his bullshit plan.

Lagana really hit the nail on the head on his podcast though. This could be huge. Why blow this opportunity on one ppv, on one buy rate, when you can stretch it out into something special, that could make a lot more money.

[XL]

What is sad is this.

This was a cool moment.

Hes still leaving. Most WWE fans arent foaming after this. You all are. Cena is going to retain and this is all jsut a nice Push to sell some tickets. I cannot wait until cena wins, and you all come back to earth.

Vince MacMahon doesnt care about this shit. HE cares about making money. And while we think it would, and it probably could, Vince isnt going to break out of his bullshit plan.
Did you see the promo?

The fans in the arena were eating it up.

[XL]

Well i cant let my boy down so ummm im happy you are in shape dude. im about 6'0 175 probly cud be a bit more built but im happy out, no fat anyway which is all good :y: Now you go!
:wtf: Are you asking to compare stats?

[HBPunk]

:wtf: Are you asking to compare stats?

No i dont give a flying fuck but i was waiting for your comeback, thats all. im sure you are very sexy

[XL]

38-24-40

[XL]

T'n'A

[HBPunk]

No idea what those figures mean, never bothered to check. Dont need to know now either but good job:)

[XL]

I believe they are chest-waist-ass.

I may be well off base with that. And also, they may be totally outlandish stats.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I'm really interested in that video that Innovator posted, but I really don't want to hear any spoilers at all.

[djoutcry]

WWE.com

“As of Tuesday, June 28, WWE and CM Punk have reached an agreement that Punk will fulfill his non-televised live event obligations for the remainder of his contract, through July 17. Furthermore, both sides have mutually agreed not to disparage one another.”

[CSL]

nice save

[HBPunk]

WWE.com is retarded

[CSL]

what a general, sweeping statement

[XL]

WWE.com is a mechanism to sell the WWE brand.

[HBPunk]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, i thought WWE.com was used to push their ice cream sales

[CSL]

I'm sure it was when they sold ice creams

[CSL]

http://www.awesomehq.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/wwfsuperstarsicecreambars.jpg

[CSL]

Take it from the "Mouth". Once you lick 'em, you're gonna love 'em!

[HBPunk]

Bring them back, imagine how delicious a Sheamus Ice cream would be

[Anybody Thrilla]

Something about that ad campaign is making me feel very uncomfortable.

[HBPunk]

I think its Jimmy's mouth being so wide open?

[CSL]

his shirt's open under his tie, he's clearly attempting to lure a child in for a spot of molestation

[DAMN iNATOR]

“CM Punk: it’s simple business – The Rock is the main event at Wrestlemania cause it draws more money in one night, then u will in lifetime.”

SICCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK BURN

[HBPunk]

Already posted that DAMN

[HBPunk]

The Rock is a prick

[Anybody Thrilla]

SICCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK BURN

Not really. What The Rock said (cough) kind of plays into what Punk was saying. The Rock made money because the WWE hype machine got thrown behind him. If Punk was ever pushed in a similar manner and given a chance to shine all over people, he could be just as big of a draw.

Am I saying that The Rock isn't talented? Not at all. He can light a mic on fire. Honestly though, Punk is just as good, if not better.

[Londoner]

This thread has just got me thinking how great a Punk v Rock match could be. Could still happen....?

[HBPunk]

If Rock would get out of his Fast and Furious bullshit, stop dressing like a tooth fairy and return to the place that created all that he is today, then who knows.

The Rock vs CM Punk for promos alone would be worth it. They could probably take up the entire 2 hours of Raw just talking and it would be epic

[Londoner]

And lets not forget the back n forth twitter comments between them.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

This thread has just got me thinking how great a Punk v Rock match could be. Could still happen....?

It could, IF they did a mini mania tournament, which would be fucking awful.

Cena vs Rock
Austin vs Punk

Rock and Punk win, which ends with Rock and Punk closing mania.

I would buy that show in a heartbeat.

[Londoner]

Doesn't have to be at Mania, could be at Summerslam maybe.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Doing it before Mania takes away from Cena vs Rock in my opinion.

[Londoner]

True, that's the annoying thing.

[CSL]

Honestly though, Punk is just as good, if not better.

Dunno about that. Takes something really special to engage a crowd the way Rock does. Punk can do serious promos with the best of them and has never looked uncomfortable but at the same time he's never been the babyface relied on to sell PPV's, having crowds singing along with about 15 different catchphrases littered throughout a single promo whilst still getting the points across and literally creating a buzz/anticipation every time he picks up a microphone.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Yet.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Punk will never be a babyface like the Rock was.

Punk is a jerk. He's an asshole. Pandering doesn't fit him. It doesn't work. If he's ever going to be a face and work, it'll have to be Austin style... He's not going to get over by playing up to the crowd and playing sing-a-long, he'll get over by calling people on their bullshit, taking the piss out of them, and calling it like he sees it.

[Anybody Thrilla]

That's why the feud would be amazing.

[Testicle]

More fuel for the fire. Good stuff.

[HBPunk]

Hey, check out the Randy Orton interview i posted, it runs about 40 mins, done the day of the first set of SD tapings before the tour over here. Its very good, very funny. Orton comes off well, very likeable

[Innovator]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/333132212.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1309377845&Signature=1tJWZx7krtYo3xL9HymxAsjQRv8%3D

[pj69]

Ah, I'm confused. Was that a shoot or what?

[ron the dial]

or what more than likely

[Innovator]

Yes, complete 100% shoot. It just took them 6 minutes to figure out how to cut his mic.

[HBPunk]

HAHA Nice. Junior member, know your role

[Innovator]

Hey, they did their job if people ask if it was real.

[XL]

Ah, I'm confused. Was that a shoot or what?
The fact that in a tirade that took aim at the biggest stars the company has, past and present, the company ethos, the boss, his daughter and son-in-law, amongst other things, the only word censored was "douchbag" kinda gives it away.

[James Steele]

Is that what they censored? I was wondering what the hell he said.

[Taker it Easy]

The Rock is starting to sound like the old WCW guys, all about who draws the money. Also, he is sounding like the old guys like Dusty Rhodes who sit at the round table.

[Juan]

Taker it easy with posting your sig in every post

[Rock Bottom]

Check out the front page of TPWW, there is shit about Punk's status and mention of Heyman and Lesnar.

And a follow up to it

http://www.wzronline.com/wrestling-news/more-on-lesnar-heyman-cabana-punk-wwe.html

[Rammsteinmad]

Off topic, but in regards to the Lesnar/Heyman deal, my guess would be some kind of Legends deal, or something that allows WWE to use their likenesses. Action figures? DVD? WWE 12 even?!

[pj69]

Yes, complete 100% shoot. It just took them 6 minutes to figure out how to cut his mic.

Forgive me, I don't really watch WWE or wrestling at all anymore. I know it wasn't a total shoot, rather a "shoot-style" promo, I just wasn't sure if he legitimately "took it too far" and got carried away and went off script and that's why they cut his mic. It was just strange hearing him specifically mention other promotions and take some pretty serious shots at people which is why I asked.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Hahaha, I love CM Punk if it's true about him trying to get Colt a spot on the main roster.

[Kane Knight]

deal with it haters.


You';re comfortable with people knowing you like a negro?

[FearedSanctity]

- Colt Cabana recently spoke with the Miami Herald about CM Punk leaving WWE, here are some comments from Cabana…
"From being laughed at by the trainers in Ohio Valley Wrestling to Paul [Heyman] finally bringing him up and everybody treating him like dirt, telling him he has an attitude problem and calling him the ‘King of the Indies,'. Just looking down on him, he just felt shunned his whole time there. It was a complete struggle."

"The power of him not really caring because he was ready to leave — I always said the power of not giving a s--- is so important. He is really at the point where he just wants to get out of there. It's too frustrating for him. If he said anything that made anybody mad, what are they going to do to him? Not re-sign him? He doesn't want to be there.

"So I think that idea is so powerful. He is so strong in his beliefs with the straight edge lifestyle. By being how strong headed that he is, he was able to have the power to go out on television and say what probably every other wrestler has wanted to say. He made unbelievable television. He made unbelievable history in wrestling.

"He almost has the ability to change professional wrestling as we know it. It has been so stagnant and vanilla. It kind of shook up the wrestling world because of his real life frustrations."

[Londoner]

Doing it before Mania takes away from Cena vs Rock in my opinion.

Was abit fucked while typing last night so got abit confused when responding to your post,lol. I was actually talking about sometime after next years WM.

[James Steele]

As awesome as the promo was, I am starting to think people are throwing the words "historic" and "revolutionary" out there way too much.

[Innovator]

Calm down Jimmy, don't get your panties in a bunch because he called Trips a doofus.

[The Jayman]

lol

[James Steele]

Calm down Jimmy, don't get your panties in a bunch because he called Trips a doofus.


It was an awesome promo, but it wasn't "historic" or "revolutionary". It could lead to something "historic" or "revolutionary" but we said the same thing about the Nexus angle last year.

[Chavo Classic]

It was an awesome promo, but it wasn't "historic" or "revolutionary". It could lead to something "historic" or "revolutionary" but we said the same thing about the Nexus angle last year.

I don't think we'll know the impact until after the PPV. If they play it right and do something with Punk taking the belt, then it might well be the next big thing. It's certainly not going to change the industry like Austin 316, the NWO, or Hulkamania; but it will be the angle of the year - perhaps even of the decade.

In reality, looking at the possible various outcomes, the smart money is on Cena winning and Punk saying goodbye, even if just for a short while. That would put a lid on this whole thing, and means you will be absolutely 100% right.

[Rammsteinmad]

I really want Punk to win and take the belt to ROH (obviously scripted, but to add to the storyline).

WWE worked with ECW in the 90's, so this isn't unbelievable.

[DAMN iNATOR]

HAHA Nice. Junior member, know your role

Who, this guy? (http://www.tpww.net/forums/member.php?u=12628) Nah, he's been around forever dude, just hasn't posted in a looooooooooooooong time. :shifty:

[Chavo Classic]

My ideal booking goes like this:

1) Punk wins at the PPV. Immediately runs from the ring through the crowd to the outside to a waiting car, where he's driven off into the Chicago night. Why not have a cameo for Colt Cabana as the driver too?

2) Show ends with Cena looking shocked in the ring.

3) Following night on Raw, Vince announces that Cena and Punk are both gone from the WWE, and are not coming back. Any mention of either man is forbidden on television, the website or any other WWE medium.

He announces the start of a new era, and a tournament to crown a new champion with a new belt. The final will take place at the next PPV, Summerslam.

4) Punk "goes back" to ROH to a hero's welcome and forms an alliance with the Kings of Wrestling. He defends the WWE championship at shows. However, the WWE does not acknowledge this at all, and although there are obviously videos on youtube and mentions on forums, there is no official comment from the WWE.

5) At the finals, lets say between Del Rio and Big Show, Punk jumps the barrier and attacks both men with the old belt. A couple of guys from the back hit the ring. Punk clears a few of them but starts to get outnumbered before Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli also jump the barrier and fight them off.

As they the start to overpower the WWE guys, Cena's music hits and he rushes to the ring. But instead of decking Punk, Hero or Castagnoli; he teams with them a beats on the remaining WWE guys. Show ends with four men triumphant in the ring.

6) Next night on Raw, the show starts with the group in the ring. Punk says he called the WWE and said he'd come back and defend the belt one more time against someone of their choice, but on his terms and with his ROH guys as enforcers. He explains Hero and Castagnoli have his back, and they're here for one night only.

His reasoning for coming back is because he's CM Punk, and he can do whatever he wants, when he wants. Tonight Raw is CM Punk's playground and there's nothing the WWE can do.

Cena explains that he's with Punk because that speech he gave on the 27 June woke him up. He got into wrestling to be the best, not the most popular. When Punk beat him for the belt, he realised he wasn't the best. He tells the WWE Universe that the champ is here, and that the champ isn't him: it's CM Punk.

He confesses that he telephoned Punk and they reconciled, and hatched this plot. Cena says he doesn't hate his fans or his popularity, but it clouded his judgement and swelled his ego. It made his shallow and superficial, and distracted him from his goal of being the best wrestler the planet ever saw. He says he's going back to his roots, he's aligned himself with some of the best wrestlers in the world such as CM Punk, Hero and Castagnoli - and together, they will collectively be known as "The New Kings of Wrestling".

7) A match is booked for the championship, but under Punk's rules, and it's a triple threat with CM Punk and Cena versus any top babyface.

Cena helps Punk retain, while Hero and Castagnoli act as enforcers at ringside. A few run-ins from WWE guys, but the show ends with a simultaneous GTS and Attitude Adjustment in the ring from Punk and Cena.

8) The following week on Raw, "The New Kings" re-appear and admit that as the best in the world, they should be on the biggest stage in the world, and that stage is the WWE. They disclose that they have all signed with the WWE, but that their doing things their way.

Punk says he was rehired because the WWE admitted defeat and that there is only one true WWE championship - the one in his possession. The tournament to crown a new championship was, and he quotes, "in desperation". To restore some prestige to Raw, the WWE had to swallow their pride and rehire Punk.

Cena, Hero and Castagnoli were hired as part of the conditions of Punk's contract.

9) Thus starts a program with "The New Kings of Wrestling" dominating like the NWO. Hero and Castagnoli pick up the tag titles and Cena starts wearing wrestling-trunks instead of his jeans to symbolise his transition from a Superstar to a "wrestler".

Have the whole thing run for a while. Hero and Castagnoli could be on short term contracts and also appear on ROH at their will. Punk is the top heel on the show, and while Cena stops doing a lot of his "Hustle, Loyalty and Respect" schtick, he remains a tweener. Eventually, Cena comes back to the WWE's side, beats Punk for the title and thus dismantles the stable.

[Chavo Classic]

Wow, I didn't mean to write so much. I just "Noided".

Please take a read though, I think it's a pretty good idea.

[CSL]

I haven't read through it but did notice it ends with "Eventually, Cena comes back to the WWE's side, beats Punk for the title and thus dismantles the stable." You could book the most logical, long drawn and well thought out storyline since the birth of the nWo and if it finishes like that, the mongs would still shit all over it, talk about it being a huge waste of time and so on.

[Chavo Classic]

I haven't read through it but did notice it ends with "Eventually, Cena comes back to the WWE's side, beats Punk for the title and thus dismantles the stable." You could book the most logical, long drawn and well thought out storyline since the birth of the nWo and if it finishes like that, the mongs would still shit all over it, talk about it being a huge waste of time and so on.

Maybe because I don't really see this as a revolutionary moment. I think it could be an awesome angle for a couple of months and elevate Punk to a new level, at the most.

I'm being realistic in that there's no way the WWE would commit to turning Cena heel permanently because of the money he draws right now. A brief flirtation with a heel stable like this would probably be the most they'd do.

Punk would benefit greatly from being the leader of a proper stable for once; one that even includes Cena. Sure, it sounds a lot more like Nexus than it does NWO, but for those few months they'd be the hottest and most despised group of people in the industry.

[HBPunk]

I like Chavo's idea aside from the last bit only because the WWE should push a new face while Cena is in this stable. Maybe a face Miz?

[Chavo Classic]

So we're agreeing the ending sucks? :(

Meh, I didn't really focus on the ending too much as the heel turn for Cena and return for Punk are the bits that excite me the most. You can probably tell when I spent only one sentence summarising my finale.

They'd definately need to push new faces to feud with the group. Triple H would be an ideal rival, as he'd be fighting for the honour of the WWE against these (excuse the pun) punks who have gatecrashed the WWE and are disrespecting the legacy and achievements of everyone in the Hall of Fame.

Face Miz could work also - I love that idea. He could be booked as desperate to join the group, as he sees them as the elite. However, "The New Kings" toy with him, making him jump through hoops before they reject him for a third time. He snaps and takes them out. Obviously, they'd have to fight back and obliterate him to remain to appear strong, but that moment Miz snaps would be gold.

[HBPunk]

Especially if Miz once again wins MITB but cant cash it in this time cos there's no championship on Raw (forget about jumping to SD) It really could work. Im just thinking now tho that its very similar to Nexus from last summer and might be too fresh in peoples minds to do it again with Cena. Even tho he never turned heel with nexus

[CSL]

The ending is fine but every time Cena comes out on top in any program or show, a certain "type of fan" will shit all over it no matter what strictly because Cena came out on top.

[Chavo Classic]

It is very recent and similar. I hope if they were going to do something like this, they'd push the group with intent and leave any comparisons behind in the dust.

I really love the image in my head of the four men stood on the turnbuckles in each corner of the ring looking smug and soaking in the venom of the crowd. Hero and Claudio as tag champs; Punk as top bad guy and champ; and Cena as a rejuvenated heel. It excites me.

[HBPunk]

CSL, i think its THE WAY he comes out on top though. When he won the title off Miz that was fine. When he beat R-Truth in Washington that was bollocks. A fucking little Jimmy throws water on him and then he's done for?! That would be fine during the match but then Cena tosses him in the ring, AA right away and theres the 3? Not buying it

[HBPunk]

It is very recent and similar. I hope if they were going to do something like this, they'd push the group with intent and leave any comparisons behind in the dust.

I really love the image in my head of the four men stood on the turnbuckles in each corner of the ring looking smug and soaking in the venom of the crowd. Hero and Claudio as tag champs; Punk as top bad guy and champ; and Cena as a rejuvenated heel. It excites me.

Dude my helmet is peeping out the top of my jeans at the thought of it but remember the classic line "This is the WWE after all so they will fuck it up"

[James Steele]

The kid throwing water finish was still better than the Duct Tape finish.

[Anybody Thrilla]

I was watching Capitol Punishment at a local Buffalo Wild Wings, and for some reason, the place when BALLISTIC when Lil' Jimmy soaked R-Truth. I didn't know exactly how to feel about that.

[CM Punk DONT GO]

I will be so sad if PUNK goes. Worst wrestling news i have ever heard. Lame. Vince needs to not suspend him and give him any money and a lifetime supply of Pepsi.

[Rammsteinmad]

Worse than Guerrero's death or Benoit's murder/suicide?

[HBPunk]

I just wish Benoit had done that murder angle ten years earlier. He pushed me so close to switching off wrestling forever with that championship run in 2004. When Randy beat him at SummerSlam i almost cried with joy. I wish Benoit's wife and kid were still alive and instead the selfish cunt had just hung himself and let us all move on. He was my most hated wrestler and possibly person of all time, nobody will ever touch him on that and i almost felt justified when i heard the murder/suicide news.

Ill never forget being stared at by Benoit and thinking he was a fucking nutjob. I was at a house show in Ireland, Benoit was on last defending the belt against Kane. Their match followed HBK vs HHH which had just completely tore the house down. It was epic and every fan was on their feet the entire time, crowd was probably 65%-35% in HBK's favour.
Then Benoit comes out. We could hear him talk to Kane from the front row at one point during the match, the arena was silent. Match felt like it lasted 100 mins but finally after Benoit won he was holding the belt high above his head as the majority of the crowd clapped him. He was showing the belt to all corners of the crowd and when he turned towards us, we all flipped him the bird. There was 5 of us doing it and he definately saw us to the point that he lowered the belt down significantly and just stared a hole through me and my mates. We joked afterwards saying how cool it was that we pissed Benoit off but we all agreed as we stood there flipping him off that we were kinda frozen scared when we realised he saw us. Is that because he looked like an actual nutjob that could just go off and kill a fan? We didnt give him much shit during his match except a few boos so he had no reason to react so badly towards us.

On a seperate note Edge vs Ric Flair was on that card too and Flair wrestled for 2 full mins with his tights down and pasty ass hanging out. The greatest moment though was when he climbed the turnbuckle right in front of us and we got a mighty shot of his massive white ass. Truly a beautiful sight

[Rammsteinmad]

If Benoit wanted to, he could have killed you and all your scrawny, prepubescent friends at the same time.

[CM Punk DONT GO]

Chris Benoit killing his family was sad but im only sadness for his child and his wife. Not him. He is a bastard. BUt to me PUNK leaving is worst.

[Rammsteinmad]

The irony of bringing Benoit up in this thread is that the match he no-showed was meant to be against Punk. That match would have been awesome.

[HBPunk]

If Benoit wanted to, he could have killed you and all your scrawny, prepubescent friends at the same time.

We were 20 at the time you ignorant wankstain. And one of the guys i was with is a former kickboxing world champion who i have tried to encourage to start wrestling. Not saying 'id kick benoits ass' but anthony probly could do well on his own against him. But you brought up such a fucking childish stupid point so, 5 on 1 yeah WE woulda killed HIM.

[HBPunk]

Chris Benoit killing his family was sad but im only sadness for his child and his wife. Not him. He is a bastard. BUt to me PUNK leaving is worst.

Then to you i say, you are very dumb

[Rammsteinmad]

We were 20 at the time you ignorant wankstain. And one of the guys i was with is a former kickboxing world champion who i have tried to encourage to start wrestling. Not saying 'id kick benoits ass' but anthony probly could do well on his own against him. But you brought up such a fucking childish stupid point so, 5 on 1 yeah WE woulda killed HIM.

Alright sweetheart, calm down. It's such a beautiful day today. No need for that attitude. Get it? :kiss:

[XL]

We didnt give him much shit during his match except a few boos so he had no reason to react so badly towards us.
Think you answered this yourself earlier in the post.
He was showing the belt to all corners of the crowd and when he turned towards us, we all flipped him the bird.

[Rammsteinmad]

Just watched the promo again. Absolute thing of beauty. But there's one thing missing that I wish Punk had mentioned:

While he was ranting about being the best and not being used properly etc, he should have mentioned Survivor Series 2006, and used insider terms, like how he 'outpopped' the biggest 'babyfaces' in the company... and look where that got him... on ECW! (or something along those lines...)

[Ermaximus]

"I was put on a brand that nobody gave a fuck about. A brand that used to mean something, but ever since Vince got his grubby fingers on it, it became a watered down former shell of itself. Basically, it became worse than the XFL. No wonder Paul Heyman gave Vince the old fuck you. I mean, sure I won the ECW Title in time, but so did guys like Mark Henry, Chavo Guerrero, and Matt Hardy. So if that isn't a slap in the face, I don't know what is."

[The Naitch]

isn't this just a set up for CM Punk to face Vince's DOOFUS son-in-law at SummerSlam?

[Shadrick]

Honestly, this is either a really GREAT work or its real because I'm second-guessing myself now.

I seriously think he's leaving. Seriously. I'm seriously thinking he's leaving and not coming back. I think he's going to win the belt at the PPV, only to have the MITB winner (it makes the MOST sense for it to be Kofi, his real life friend and former tag team champion partner who is one of the only guys he likes in the locker room) to come save it. He puts him over on the way out.

I don't see Del Rio winning it because he already got the Rumble this year and no one else in MITB makes sense for this storyline, assuming that MITB will even play into it.

Whatever happens, I'm watching to see.

[The Naitch]

why would they let him win it if they know he's leaving, I don't get it

[Shadrick]

To appease him, in a sense that, he's already signed an extension and its just a really GREAT work.

[CM Punk DONT GO]

Then to you i say, you are very dumb

Why you say that?

[Anybody Thrilla]

why would they let him win it if they know he's leaving, I don't get it

Maybe it's their plan to just have one main title again?

[HBPunk]

Why you say that?

Because you said that CM Punk POSSIBLY leaving the WWE is a bigger tragedy than Chris Benoit murdering two innocent people in cold blood. I mean its fucking moronic at best. Id almost pass that comment on to the cops and tell them to keep an eye on you.

[CM Punk DONT GO]

I never said that it was worst. But to me PUNK leaving the WWE is terribble to me. Sorry if I upset anyone. Of course if someone kills a kid and a wife then he is a bad person and it is bad. Maybe it came out wrong: I dunno.

[HBPunk]

I never said that it was worst. But to me PUNK leaving the WWE is terribble to me. Sorry if I upset anyone. Of course if someone kills a kid and a wife then he is a bad person and it is bad. Maybe it came out wrong: I dunno.

you aren't very old are you?

[CM Punk DONT GO]

why you say that? also, why cant i post in my thread i made yesterday? what happen?

[HBPunk]

see you type like a fruitcake, whats goin on?! what age are you? i dont care if ur 10 but i just wanna know what the deal is

[CM Punk DONT GO]

Fruitcake? i dunno about that. SOrry if I write too bad for you. I just signed up here to talk about WWE. Geez.

[Juan]

Settle down HBPunk. You don't type like a scholar yourself.

[HBPunk]

come on this guy is an obvious sock. why the fuck are you at me again tho juan? my typing skills are certainly not the greatest but id guess im a lot brighter than you as you dont sound like a scholar

[Juan]

I wasn't aware you could hear me...

[Juan]

Also, this guy doesn't show up as sock in the "sock detector" (like Sexton Hardcastle did ;) )
so there's really nothing I can do. He can still be a sock, but he might be hiding his real IP.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like the way you wrote that angle, Classic. Personally, I think an angle like that would be quite intense. The only thing is that it makes Cena look "second-fiddle," and I don't think the WWE would be willing to do that. He and Punk would probably reveal themselves to be "buddies" and "partners," with Punk just being the guy to hold the WWE Championship. Everything else I love about it, though. Especially the tournament that goes nowhere because The New Kings intervene. The final two guys could become two of the top faces leading the charge against Punk.

I would love to see Colt Cabana brought into the angle, though. Apparently Punk has been pushing for the WWE to sign him, and even X-Pac has recently said it was stupid of the WWE to let him go. Colt Cabana as the driver would be a nice touch, but I'd like to see Cabana officially part of the group.

CM Punk: WWE Champion
John Cena: Enforcer
Colt Cabana: United States Champion
Chris Hero & Claudio Castagnoli: WWE Tag Team Champions

[HBPunk]

this coming from the guy who told me to stop typing in capital letters because i was "shouting"...get some sleep john

[HBPunk]

Also, this guy doesn't show up as sock in the "sock detector" (like Sexton Hardcastle did ;) )
so there's really nothing I can do. He can still be a sock, but he might be hiding his real IP.

Sexton whocastle?! Never heard of him ;)

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm pretty sure this is all a work, by the way. I can't see the WWE giving this much attention to a guy that is on his way out of the company. Seems counter-productive, you know? By work, I mean "cheah, duh," but I think Punk has already signed a new contract with the WWE, or that even more of that promo was scripted than we imagine.

[HBPunk]

I'm pretty sure this is all a work, by the way. I can't see the WWE giving this much attention to a guy that is on his way out of the company. Seems counter-productive, you know?

:y: :yes: Completely agree. It makes zero sense from every logical angle that this could be anything but a work

[CM Punk DONT GO]

I dont know if this is a work. It look pretty real to me. I hope it is though bc Ive been a Punk fan forever. And I would hate to see him go to the crappy TNA. Also, what is that HBKpunks deal?

[HBPunk]

The fact that he mentioned Laurinitis (sp) was just for smarks and nobody else. I think they are working the IWC more than anyone. If you think about it they have been trying to outfox the IWC a lot more in the last 12-18 months, this is just the best thing they have ever done. They know we will discuss it to death and we will have no answer by the end of it until it all plays out. I think the WWE deserves huge credit for this

[HBPunk]

I dont know if this is a work. It look pretty real to me. I hope it is though bc Ive been a Punk fan forever. And I would hate to see him go to the crappy TNA. Also, what is that HBKpunks deal?

All i did was ask your age because you type like a child. Thats my deal

[Mr. Nerfect]

Building up CM Punk as the biggest thing in wrestling, and then letting him go to ROH would be stupid. Also, there has been talk about Punk's contract coming up for the longest time. The WWE could have easily jobbed out Punk. But as it gets closer they put him in a fucking title match?

[HBPunk]

Building up CM Punk as the biggest thing in wrestling, and then letting him go to ROH would be stupid. Also, there has been talk about Punk's contract coming up for the longest time. The WWE could have easily jobbed out Punk. But as it gets closer they put him in a fucking title match?

I know Jeff Hardy was champion but didnt he leave after a huge build and a title match loss, ironically to CM Punk?

[Raven Reaper]

Punk will never be a babyface like the Rock was.

Punk is a jerk. He's an asshole. Pandering doesn't fit him. It doesn't work. If he's ever going to be a face and work, it'll have to be Austin style... He's not going to get over by playing up to the crowd and playing sing-a-long, he'll get over by calling people on their bullshit, taking the piss out of them, and calling it like he sees it.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljvnas4Gid1qb3ujn.jpg

http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/cm%20punk%20bow_53582.jpg

[CSL]

way to completely and utterly miss the point :y:

[Raven Reaper]

And on a side note, I'm a Paul Heyman/Lesnar guy too! :P

[The Naitch]

RAW REBOUND on Smackdown:

They played the RAW Rebound and they edit out the DOOFUS line, but they still play off the "WWE will be better off if Vince was DEAD" line. Also they say Vince will address RAW on July 4. Michael Cole says he is indefinitely suspended

[Shisen Kopf]

This whole thing is a giant work. I can't believe that there are retards that think otherwise. And as for HBpunk, Taker it Easy and that CM punk moron. Are you fucking idiots braindead? Jesus. I would expect idiocy from Seth82 and captain burrito but they seem like Mensa members compared to your collective 3 brain cells.

[Shisen Kopf]

RAW REBOUND on Smackdown:

They played the RAW Rebound and they edit out the DOOFUS line, but they still play off the "WWE will be better off if Vince was DEAD" line. Also they say Vince will address RAW on July 4. Michael Cole says he is indefinitely suspended


This is serious business this pro rassllin'

[The Naitch]

WE WANT RASSLE

WE WANT RASSLE

WE WANT RASSLE

[The Naitch]

I think this is definitely a huge work (Punk just took some extra liberties in his promo JUST FOR KICKS)

This will all build up to CM Punk vs. Triple Doofus at SummerSlam, like I thought this was the original plan anyways, according to James FUCKING Steele's thread

Out of all the guys on the roster, Punk is the best one to convince Doofus and Vince to think outside the box and make things edgier.

Cena has no balls to do that, he just goes along with whatever Vince wants him to do. He won't even take charge of his own character.

Punk is smarter than everyone on the roster, and this is proof. (A punk is someone who goes up against authority, right?)

Pure genius, actually. JUST MY OPINION THOUGH

[The Naitch]

also, I don't know why Punk would be legitimately bitter at WWE though. He came in and became a 3 time WH Champ or whatever (in such a short period), so why should he still be angry at that? Plus he got a good run as a heel with SES

I can see him getting frustrated with stuff recently, but overall, the guy doesn't have anything to be bitter about. His WWE career has been successful in my eyes. A storybook career. MITB winner twice.

[The Naitch]

huge work. I'm not falling for this shit

[XL]

Will you go as far as to state that if Punk does leave and it's not a work, that you'll leave TPWW forever? :p

[The Naitch]

sounds familiar....

FILL ME IN

[HBPunk]

This whole thing is a giant work. I can't believe that there are retards that think otherwise. And as for HBpunk, Taker it Easy and that CM punk moron. Are you fucking idiots braindead? Jesus. I would expect idiocy from Seth82 and captain burrito but they seem like Mensa members compared to your collective 3 brain cells.

Whats your fucking problem dickface? I know its a giant work aswel iv been saying it all along. Go fuck yourself :foc:

[James Diesel]

Will you go as far as to state that if Punk does leave and it's not a work, that you'll leave TPWW forever? :p

If Punk leaves and it's not a work, I'll leave TPWW forever. No one here likes me anyway, but more importantly, all my faith in WWE relies on this angle right now. I already know about next week, but MITB is the proving ground. And if Punk leaves, I have no reason to follow wrestling. So I'll probably just find some other aspiration. Maybe accounting, or aviation. Maybe even magic.

Damn, now I really need him to stay lol

[Shisen Kopf]

Whats your fucking problem dickface? I know its a giant work aswel iv been saying it all along. Go fuck yourself :foc:

Yo chief, Thanks for the white rep. Oh you've been saying it's a work the whole time. Good job. A winner is you!

[HBPunk]

Yo chief, Thanks for the white rep. Oh you've been saying it's a work the whole time. Good job. A winner is you!

I dont give a rats balls about rep, just wanted to let you know your a twat :wave: You sad little boy

[XL]

*you're

[MoFo]

Actually cheese doritos are about the only cheese based snack worth talking about. All the rest apparently leave giant orange stained fingers which cant be right.


Quavers.

[XL]

And Mini Cheddars!

[HBPunk]

Yo chief, Thanks for the white rep. Oh you've been saying it's a work the whole time. Good job. A winner is you!

Nice racist comment you left me there behind your lil red dot. Lovely stuff. Im not 'proud' to be irish cos i had nothing to do with being born there so i dont give a shit but you are an ignorant piece of shit

[HBPunk]

*you're

*suck it

[What Would Kevin Do?]

also, I don't know why Punk would be legitimately bitter at WWE though. He came in and became a 3 time WH Champ or whatever (in such a short period), so why should he still be angry at that? Plus he got a good run as a heel with SES

I can see him getting frustrated with stuff recently, but overall, the guy doesn't have anything to be bitter about. His WWE career has been successful in my eyes. A storybook career. MITB winner twice.

From what I've heard, he was treated like shit and miserable when he first started. Also, from what I've heard him say, he seems like a guy who really doesn't like the fame. He seems to be a very "leave me the fuck alone if you see me in public" type guy. That, mixed with his perceived misuse, mainly the company not getting behind him, I can see where he might not be happy... Unhappiness tends to lead to bitterness against the entity you perceive to be causing it.

Not saying it's all justified, if it' true, but I could see him being legitimately bitter.

[CSL]

the fact he's a bit of a cunt probably doesn't help

[CM Punk DONT GO]

I think he's mad becuz they didnt put him on a collectors cup. He seemed mad about that I and would too if i was the best wrestler in the WWE.

[parkmania]

At least he has a T-shirt.

[Xero]

So does Zack Ryder.

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[screech]

Talked about this on my last show. Took up about half my time.

Almost a half hour talking about a six minute promo. Seems so ridiculous.

[XL]

I think he's mad becuz they didnt put him on a collectors cup. He seemed mad about that I and would too if i was the best wrestler in the WWE.
Yep. That'd be the major gripe I reckon.

[Raven Reaper]

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Lots of CM PUNK chants and booing Cena.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This angle seems like it were pegged by Paul Heyman. Just saying.

[HBPunk]

Cool Just Joe

[The Naitch]

John Cena = the Justin Bieber of WWE

[Joe Kerr]

this reminds me of the whole Edge /Matt hardy / Lita scam... Everyone was convinced it was legitimate until Matt Hardy jumped a wall then we all said fuck you wwe.

[Londoner]

John Cena = the Justin Bieber of WWE

:lol:

[CSL]

this reminds me of the whole Edge /Matt hardy / Lita scam... Everyone was convinced it was legitimate until Matt Hardy jumped a wall then we all said fuck you wwe.

lol why, because you got worked?

[CSL]

actually I don't really get your point from any view here, it was an angle born in real life, I'm not sure what you'd have had to say 'fuck you' about

[James Steele]

People really think this is a shoot?

[JimmyMess]

Hahahahaghahahhahahaah

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[James Steele]

:lol: CM Punk's PORNOSTACHE

[Asmo]

That 'stache is so fucking awesome. Looks like a dastardly villain from the old Westerns.

[CSL]

lol dunno, can't help but think more John Waters than John Wayne's enemy when I saw that vid

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Predictably, TMZ have picked up that vid and are publicizing it.</font>

[Schlomey]

loved the video. LOVE the stache. Just sayin'

[Chavo Classic]

Lol, brilliant

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/viz316/cmpunKSAYS.jpg

[Testicle]

Love the stache. It's a mobster stache to match the hair cut. Its too big/full to be a porno stache. It could also sub as a western stache.

[VSG]

"Nice faux-hawk, you homo!" :lol: :'(

[The Naitch]

CM G.O.A.T.

[Nicky Fives]

ROFL..... Punk.....

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>And after not touching his Twitter account since last week, he came back to apologize for the anti-gay slurs:

CMPunk CM Punk
...I'm embarrassed. I own up to being a total douche in this situation and I offer a sincere apology to anybody I hurt with careless words.
4 minutes ago »
CMPunk CM Punk
I'm glad TMZ posted that video because everybody needs to be held accountable for their bullshit, me included. What I said was bullshit.</font>

[CSL]

pffft, Brian Pillman or David Schultz would have tweeted telling any homos not liking it to chow down on his johnson #realheel

[Nervous Ferret]

Nah he's a bitch. Will probably watch RAW, especially if the Yankees get no hit. Not bc I am so in love with CM PUnk, just want to see some T&A :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

[Xero]

From Punk's Twitter:

I'm glad TMZ posted that video because everybody needs to be held accountable for their bullshit, me included. What I said was bullshit. I'm embarrassed. I own up to being a total douche in this situation and I offer a sincere apology to anybody I hurt with careless words.

From PWInsider:

A WWE rep issued the following statement to TMZ.com:

""WWE does not condone this type of language or bias and we reinforce that with our talent who are independent contractors."

[Shadrick]

After seeing Zack come out with Otunga and McGillicuty, I've already deduced that they are leading into something for Otunga and McGillicuty to get involved in post-Nexus when Punk leaves. Punk wins the belt, Vince comes down, says "John Cena, you'reeeee f-" and then the MITB winners music hits, he beats Punk, boom.

[Tom Guycott]

All Punk needs are aviators, a Hawaiian shirt , and a <s>Detroit Tigers cap</s>.

Magnum CM.

[Aguakate]

...WWE can't possibly let CM Punk leave...RIGHT?

I mean, he's all of a sudden become their #1 guy! He's the top heel! He's bringing lots of attention to the WWE! Creating a buzz! I fully believe he's on his way to "peaking" as a perfomer...

...if he leaves, I just won't understand it...

[Tom Guycott]

I really want Punk to win and take the belt to ROH (obviously scripted, but to add to the storyline).

WWE worked with ECW in the 90's, so this isn't unbelievable.

... and as a bookend to his departure for signing his WWE contract on the RoH belt.

Of course, you can have the requisite confrontation with the RoH World Champion, but that's not the important part of the following fantasy about the GOLDEN promo that would result:

He brings the WWE championship there, gets a heroes welcome, then immediately shits on the crowd talking about his doubters who said he couldn't do it, says he's the best and that this is proof, and that he came back to RoH not to defend the title, but just to rub in in all of their faces.

He could then go on to say he has a bargaining chip for a new contract with WWE. Vince doesn't want him throwing it in a garbage can like Madusa or denouncing it like Shane Douglas, and what he does with the belt depends on what Vince is willing to do for him. [/wishful thinking]

And he can do all this with the 'stache, dressed as Magnum CM. No, I'm not letting that go.

[Shadrick]

What I love the most about this angle is, there are SO many different possibilities. I'm still banking on him leaving for good, only to put the MITB winner over in the end. Obviously I'm a Kofi mark, but him being a real life friend he's been wanting to put over forever, and former tag champ with him kinda wraps his WWE career up in a nice package for the time being.

Then he could come back in a few and feud, both main eventers by that point. Yeaaaaah.

[HBPunk]

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Lots of CM PUNK chants and booing Cena.

Cool video but listen to the flag waving sheep recording it "this is america, this is america USA! USA!" So patriotic towards a country they were born in by chance and had absolutely no control over. Only in America do ya get that shit.

For example, Christian could walk down the ramp on Smackdown wearing a Canadian t-shirt, take his cock out and piss into the first few rows while slapping a mountie on the ass and singing the canadian national anthem. The American crowd would boo and chant "USA!USA!" Then he could step in the ring, remove his Canadian shirt, pick up an American flag and start waving it and i guarantee 95% of the crowd with piss still dripping down their faces would start cheering him and again chant "USA!USA!" That's why its so easy for a foreigner to be a heel in the WWE, just speak in a different language or with an accent and the American crowd will boo because they dont understand and therefore they hate on it. They actually think America is the only country on the planet and are so narrowminded they dont even want to entertain any other possibility.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I wonder what illustrious TPWW poster TNA&USA#1 has to say about that.

[Innovator]

I feel like they have gold in their laps this Punk being the anti-establishment face and Cena being the corporate heel who "wants to play ball" with Vince. Can put HHH & Cena in Punk's way, somehow leading to Vince bringing in Austin having his two anti-faces face each other.

But that won't happen.

[TNA&USA#1]

I like that you can group a nation of over 350 million people into a single category of overly patriotic hicks and then say that we're narrow minded. That makes sense.

I know you're jealous because our nation is the greatest of all time, but try to be a little classier.

[HBPunk]

I know you're jealous because our nation is the greatest of all time, but try to be a little classier.

You say it in jest but you really do mean it. if its the greatest of all time why is a sexual predator/"actor"/austrian bodybuilder your californian governor? your 8 year long president was widely ridiculed and clearly a stupid stupid person. You guys went nuts over a black man being president for the first time ever when he should be just recognised as a man, not a "black" man

[Mr. Nerfect]

CM Punk is amazing. "Why don't you go walkabout." It's obvious the guy is just being a good heel and got carried away with his language. He's handled the aftermath as best as he can. He should probably open his next promo "Aren't you GLAAD to see me?" :shifty:

[James Steele]

You say it in jest but you really do mean it. if its the greatest of all time why is a sexual predator/"actor"/austrian bodybuilder your californian governor? your 8 year long president was widely ridiculed and clearly a stupid stupid person. You guys went nuts over a black man being president for the first time ever when he should be just recognised as a man, not a "black" man

Come take our shit then. Oh that is right...the world is OUR bitch.

[HBPunk]

Come take our shit then. Oh that is right...the world is OUR bitch.

:kiss:

I actually :heart: your country cos its so fucking ridiculous. I was just making a point to see would you debate it or get angry and reject it with no actual reasoning (ahem!)

Anyway i love the NFL (Colts) , i loved living in San Diego and KFC is fucking awesome but the place is full of utterly clueless peeps. When i mentioned an episode of Friends to one american chick she sat there gobsmacked and then asked 'How do you understand Friends? I thought it was just shown in american'

[HBPunk]

PS - The troops did well didnt they? And how nice of them to "let" the afghan people try to run their own country for a bit. I sure hope they can cope without your ummm. . help

[HBPunk]

Come take our shit then. Oh that is right...the world is OUR bitch.

And it certainly is.







Dominique strauss-kahn :shifty:

[Shisen Kopf]

USA #1 country is the history of the universe! Everyone else is just jealous of the greatness. USA rasslin is the best. Woooooo!

[James Steele]

Be careful what you wish for because the US will show you why we are a BOMBER JET FLYIN', TANK RIDIN', TERRORIST KILLIN' SON OF A GUN! WOOOOOOOOOOO!


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[Londoner]

CM Punk is amazing. "Why don't you go walkabout." It's obvious the guy is just being a good heel and got carried away with his language. He's handled the aftermath as best as he can. He should probably open his next promo "Aren't you GLAAD to see me?" :shifty:


:y:

[parkmania]

Lol, brilliant

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/viz316/cmpunKSAYS.jpg

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[CM Punk DONT GO]

I really think that CM PUNK is really going to leave. This is terrible news. He is my favorite wrester of alls time. Everyone write him a letter and write vince a letter and tell them get a new contract. This is worse than no NFL because of the locked out.

[YoungFlyFlashy]

Cool.

[VSG]

Alberto Del Merg(e)o

[Xero]

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnvg4pmnxQ1qlbedio1_400.jpg
"Thanks for your support."

[Juan]

There's like 3 other threads on CM Punk. Come on guy

[Lui Kang]

I think it goes without saying that the WWE are at a crossroads with CM Punk. Very rarely does the wrestling world get an opportunity to see someone REALLY get pushed to the next level.

Brock Lesnar in 2002, Randy Orton in 2004, and Randy Orton again in 2009 [the year he fought HHH in the main-event at Wrestlemania) are a few examples that come to mind......mainly because they are examples of the WWE shitting the bed. I hope for both CM Punk's and the WWE's sake, this angle is played right....but I'm not very confident thanks to the WWE's track record.

I think it would be interesting if Vince McMahon helped CM Punk defeat Cena at the PPV.

[James Steele]

How in the fuck did they "shit the bed" with Brock Lesnar in 02 or Orton in 04? They gave Orton everything and then some in 04 and he couldn't handle it/wasn't ready for it. Nobody got the push Brock Lesnar got in 02. NOBODY! He destroyed Hogan, Hardyz, The Rock, Big Show, Kurt Angle, Undertaker, and looked like a fucking GOD while being a multiple time World Champion and headlined WM and won in the main event for the title in a year.

[Lui Kang]

How in the fuck did they "shit the bed" with Brock Lesnar in 02 or Orton in 04? They gave Orton everything and then some in 04 and he couldn't handle it/wasn't ready for it. Nobody got the push Brock Lesnar got in 02. NOBODY! He destroyed Hogan, Hardyz, The Rock, Big Show, Kurt Angle, Undertaker, and looked like a fucking GOD while being a multiple time World Champion and headlined WM and won in the main event for the title in a year.

They shit the bed with Brock Lesnar in 02' because they turned him face way too prematurely. After Lesnar got a good 'pop' when beating The Rock at Summerslam that year, the WWE blew their load and turned him into a bland face.

The same thing happend to Orton in 04'. After beating Benoit at Summerslam, the WWE got excited by the cheers Orton was getting, and turned him face.

In both instances, both men should have continued to be pushed as heels....regardless of the pops they were getting. This is what the WWE had done with Steve Austin and The Rock before they achieved mega-stardom.

Lesnar should have remained undefeated and heelish until the Wrestlemania main-event....where he should have lost to a face Kurt Angle. After the match, Lesnar could have them destroyed Heyman after Heyman slapped Lesnar or something.....and would have become a HUUUGE face by that point since the fans would literally be creaming their pants at the idea of cheering Lesnar. It also would have motivated Lesnar to strive for something in the future....instead of giving him everything on a silver platter way too soon.

Ditto for Orton. It should've been Orton leading Evolution as a heel after Summerslam.....and HHH making the face turn. It should have been a heel Orton jobbing to Batista in the main-event of 2005.

Orton in 2009 was also poorly booked. He should've been able to punt Stephanie in the head (would have further added to his pyscho character at the time), and he should have gone over HHH. Orton was fucking huge at that point, and the WWE killed his momentum.

[James Steele]

They shit the bed with Brock Lesnar in 02' because they turned him face way too prematurely. After Lesnar got a good 'pop' when beating The Rock at Summerslam that year, the WWE blew their load and turned him into a bland face.

The same thing happend to Orton in 04'. After beating Benoit at Summerslam, the WWE got excited by the cheers Orton was getting, and turned him face.

In both instances, both men should have continued to be pushed as heels....regardless of the pops they were getting. This is what the WWE had done with Steve Austin and The Rock before they achieved mega-stardom.

Lesnar should have remained undefeated and heelish until the Wrestlemania main-event....where he should have lost to a face Kurt Angle. After the match, Lesnar could have them destroyed Heyman after Heyman slapped Lesnar or something.....and would have become a HUUUGE face by that point since the fans would literally be creaming their pants at the idea of cheering Lesnar.

Ditto for Orton. It should've been Orton leading Evolution as a heel after Summerslam.....and HHH making the face turn. It should have been a heel Orton jobbing to Batista in the main-event of 2005.

Orton in 2009 was also poorly booked. He should've been able to punt Stephanie in the head (would have further added to his pyscho character at the time), and he should have gone over HHH. Orton was fucking huge at that point, and the WWE killed his momentum.


Randy Orton wasn't ready for the main event, and he got exposed when he didn't couldn't use Flair/HHH as a crutch.

Too bad Angle had neck surgury after WMXIX and probably wouldn't have been a good option to be champion since he barely was able to compete at WMXIX.

IT MADE NO SENSE for Orton to go over HHH at WM25. Orton did every damn evil thing possible, and Triple H just to get bitched out would have made no sense and a shitty end to WM25. Remember how everybody (some to this very day) complain about HHH (a heel) winning at WM2000.

[screech]

I feel like Orton's character changed too much in 04, which didn't help the fact that he wasn't ready for the main event.

But this has already been discussed so I don't need to go further.

Plus he's become a big star now so what does it matter?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Randy Orton wasn't ready for the main event, and he got exposed when he didn't couldn't use Flair/HHH as a crutch.

Too bad Angle had neck surgury after WMXIX and probably wouldn't have been a good option to be champion since he barely was able to compete at WMXIX.

IT MADE NO SENSE for Orton to go over HHH at WM25. Orton did every damn evil thing possible, and Triple H just to get bitched out would have made no sense and a shitty end to WM25. Remember how everybody (some to this very day) complain about HHH (a heel) winning at WM2000.

The end of WrestleMania 25 was shit.

[James Steele]

The end of WrestleMania 25 was shit.

I feel it had more to do with the fact that they followed HBK/Taker & Cena/Edge/Big Show as well as the fact that this blood feud had a "If you get DQ'd you lose the title" stipulation.

[Shadrick]

That and it just wasn't a really entertaining match, Steele.

[Volare]

Another Royal Rumble win gone to waste.

[The Naitch]

So Punk is going to Japan eh? :(

[HBPunk]

They shit the bed with Brock Lesnar in 02' because they turned him face way too prematurely. After Lesnar got a good 'pop' when beating The Rock at Summerslam that year, the WWE blew their load and turned him into a bland face.

The same thing happend to Orton in 04'. After beating Benoit at Summerslam, the WWE got excited by the cheers Orton was getting, and turned him face.

In both instances, both men should have continued to be pushed as heels....regardless of the pops they were getting. This is what the WWE had done with Steve Austin and The Rock before they achieved mega-stardom.

Lesnar should have remained undefeated and heelish until the Wrestlemania main-event....where he should have lost to a face Kurt Angle. After the match, Lesnar could have them destroyed Heyman after Heyman slapped Lesnar or something.....and would have become a HUUUGE face by that point since the fans would literally be creaming their pants at the idea of cheering Lesnar. It also would have motivated Lesnar to strive for something in the future....instead of giving him everything on a silver platter way too soon.

Ditto for Orton. It should've been Orton leading Evolution as a heel after Summerslam.....and HHH making the face turn. It should have been a heel Orton jobbing to Batista in the main-event of 2005.

Orton in 2009 was also poorly booked. He should've been able to punt Stephanie in the head (would have further added to his pyscho character at the time), and he should have gone over HHH. Orton was fucking huge at that point, and the WWE killed his momentum.

Hindsight etc

[HBPunk]

I feel it had more to do with the fact that they followed HBK/Taker & Cena/Edge/Big Show as well as the fact that this blood feud had a "If you get DQ'd you lose the title" stipulation.

I feel it had more to do with Triple H sucking when wrestling as a face. Remember when he fought Jericho at WM 18? His return pop in MSG was insane because he's highly respected but nobody cared about HHH by WM time in his face run because he's so bland in the ring. He's awesome on the mic but as a heel he needed a hammer to get a pop. As a face all his pops are for his inside jokes and smart mouth but then as soon as any of his matches start the crowd slowly sits down and thinks "oh yeah, this guy is wrestling". All of HHH's greatest matches are because of his opponent(s) - The first chamber, Benoit/HBK at WrestleMania, Austin/Sledgehammer in 3 stages of hell. His greatest match ever is SummerSlam 2002 and thats because it was against Shawn Michaels.

[James Steele]

You are full of shit.

[HBPunk]

Id expect that reaction from somebody who sleeps in HHH's garden. And you clearly have no argument to make against it

[James Steele]

Triple H is so horrible as a face and one dimensional as a heel that he has been a consistent draw for over a decade. :roll: You are full of shit.

[HBPunk]

Triple H rode stef to put him on top forever. If he was such a draw then why did millions of people tune out when the real stars (Rock and Austin) bailed. You are full of game

[Hanso Amore]

Im so glad Punk is done in the WWE. I love him but the sheer fact that he will job out and leave when all of these fan boys are so convinced he is going to be a top guy now. I cannot wait to see the Nerd Rage of the Fan Boys.

[James Steele]

Triple H rode stef to put him on top forever. If he was such a draw then why did millions of people tune out when the real stars (Rock and Austin) bailed. You are full of game

Triple H was on top of the WWF long before dating Stephanie and he was a star in WWF during that boom period with Austin and Rock. If anything, you could argue Triple H helped keep the WWE from completely tanking.

[Juan]

Im so glad Punk is done in the WWE. I love him but the sheer fact that he will job out and leave when all of these fan boys are so convinced he is going to be a top guy now. I cannot wait to see the Nerd Rage of the Fan Boys.

I think you mentioned that before

[The Naitch]

The <s>WWE</s> universe always sorts itself out...

So we lose Punk, but we gain a new Zack Ryder stable

:shifty:

[Poit]

Does that mean the IWC will start talking about how people should join Zack Ryder's stable?

[Next Big Thing]

Im so glad Punk is done in the WWE. I love him but the sheer fact that he will job out and leave when all of these fan boys are so convinced he is going to be a top guy now. I cannot wait to see the Nerd Rage of the Fan Boys.

I agree with this, but I still think it would be cool as hell if Vince "saw the light," cost Cena the match and reformed the Corporation around Punk.

[HBPunk]

wishful thinking but fuckin hell that'd be awesome. and hanso saying that is fucking retarded. if you were a real fan, and not some gimp who wanks over trannies, you would be as pissed off as the next guy. he probly also thinks steve austin sucked and the attitude era was shit

[ron the dial]

if you were a real fan. tremendous.

punk is my favorite wrestler and the guy who got me back into it in 2006, but i'm not pissed at the prospect of him leaving. clearly he thinks it's the best choice if he goes through with it. nothing for me to be upset about.

[HBPunk]

Shawn michaels was the reason i kept watching wrestling thru a dire 1996, when he retired a part of me died. Thats a real fan

[ron the dial]

or a psychopath

[HBPunk]

Its called being a die hard fan you dipshit. you watch sport? I love football (soccer) and if Tottenham Hotspur were finished forever, id never care about the sport in the same way again. I wouldn't care who won what or whatever anymore, it just wouldn't be the same. Like in TV, when a character leaves a beloved show, it isn't the same anymore. You do get this, your just being a cunt

[ron the dial]

i guess i'm just better at looking at the bigger picture than you are.

[Innovator]

When he died a part of me died. But now you're the one. You're the one that's gonna keep his spirit alive. You're the one that's gonna make sure that he didn't die for nothing. Now you're gonna have to go through hell. Worse than any nightmare you ever dreamed. But in the end, I know you'll be the one standing.

[HBPunk]

Nope, you are just the 'typical stubborn internet guy'. When something is pointed out to you that makes sense but goes against what you think you react in an even more ridiculous way. It's happened a lot. What im saying simply is how things are but you will argue to the death against it. Fine so, believe what you wanna, i dont give a fuck about you in any way

[HBPunk]

See what i mean when i say 'typical'? there are many of you gimps

[ron the dial]

http://kentuckyfriedwrestling.com/theword2/wp-content/uploads/CMPunkPepsi.jpg

[ron the dial]

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSUi-DmflCx1dm4GlBZz4iCPc2R17itrKM1F89g7DBNdq0tE-Wh&t=1

[ron the dial]

http://nickbenson.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/cm_punk.jpg

[ron the dial]

http://images.teamtalk.com/08/08/800x600/WWE-RAW-CM-Punk-JBL_1129150.jpg

[James Steele]

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/5912/kellypissing.jpg

THIS THREAD IS NOW A PARTY!!!!!!!

<iframe width="640" height="510" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/JlCeqrX8BzU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[ron the dial]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSzuegupdARz1FWS3SsrfjiRy1MhnkOhS6qBoJ6uI2xElWWgd6hcg&t=1

[HBPunk]

of course james has that pic, i bet he thinks its his girlfriend

[ron the dial]

http://www.theftwpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/cm-punk-raw-062011.jpg

[James Steele]

http://www.wrestlingvalley.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/triple-h-ric-flair-and-his-wife.jpg

[ron the dial]

http://www.chicagomag.com/images/2008/August%202008/arena_cmpunk.jpg

[James Steele]

http://members.tripod.com/%7Echerishedstar/WWF/hbk.jpg

[ron the dial]

http://img003.picture2life.net/8664303/cm_punk_vs_kane_092_009_original_medium.jpg

[Innovator]

<iframe width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/bWdbcs7qP04" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Beth Phoenix Fan]

<iframe width="560" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Rm2H59dO3Zo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[HBPunk]

And i didnt use hyperbole at all yet.

[ron the dial]

http://achairinmymind.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/e6be59punk288slammy1512p1.jpg

[ron the dial]

Thanks for that post weapon X. Shows my theory on the 20,000+ club was spot on. How does Juan's ass taste?
i'm sorry that you're ability to get along with people on the internet is worse than mine. it's really not hard. if you can keep those real life friends you talk about, this should be cake.

[ron the dial]

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/19500000/Cm-Punk-Elimination-Chamber-cm-punk-19531640-210-110.gif

[ron the dial]

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/19100000/Cm-Punk-cm-punk-19146745-298-175.gif

[CSL]

Juan Juan Juan
sounds like one
maybe likes Tron
and strawberry bon

bons

[HBPunk]

how juan?