Official RAW Thread for 8/29/11 - Happy Birthday, Kizarny! (Also Inno)

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I think it's to get people to watch the live SD tomorrow

Yeah I was thinking that. Maybe Nash's quads busted when he lazybombed Punk before :$

[Skippord]

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Triple H versus @CMPunk (http://twitter.com/CMPunk) at Night of Champions. We apologize to the seven of you who wanted to see Punk face Nash. #RAWTonight (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23RAWTonight)

[Corndad]

Nash might still get added to this match. Maybe they are making it a Triple Threat to hide Nash's lack of moveablity

[Blakeamus]

Could totally see Triple H winning with the help of Nash and the return of XPac...

[jkman61494]

Well hey, the WWE is destroying marketable angles in record time now.

In 2010 it was taking Nexus and a main eventer in Barret, taking a great 6 month build and blowing it off in mere weeks. The Nexus stuff never recovered and now Barrett is stuck between midcard and jobber.

Now you have CM Punk, where the WWE strikes gold and has the biggest "Stone Cold" type of anti hero since the whole Austin 3:16 stuff almost 15 years ago. He has one of the better feuds in a LONG time, and the WWE turns him face.

They knock him down a peg but it's ok, we got a nice long building feud to have HHH/Corporation take on the new anti-hero. It's all perfectly put in place to have this be a long standing feud that not only can be a great main event feud without involving Cena, but could begin to elevate other heels to join with the Corporate WWE stable.

Instead, they're going to blow all of this off and instead, put HHH/Punk in a match ONE MONTH after it begins?!?!

One has to hope this WILL NOT happen, or I think I'm just going to give up on WWE for good. Really don't see the point investing myself into a good product if the WWE is going to destroy great feuds to spite itself.

[Cool King]

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Triple H versus @CMPunk (http://twitter.com/CMPunk) at Night of Champions. We apologize to the seven of you who wanted to see Punk face Nash. #RAWTonight (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23RAWTonight)

lol

[jkman61494]

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Triple H versus @CMPunk (http://twitter.com/CMPunk) at Night of Champions. We apologize to the seven of you who wanted to see Punk face Nash. #RAWTonight (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23RAWTonight)

Look I think Nash/Punk is pretty stupid as you could have easily elevated another heel.

But blowing off HHH/Punk already is just pure stupidity. At the least, this could have been held off until Survivor Series and SHOULD have been a co-main event to WrestleMania.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Well hey, the WWE is destroying marketable angles in record time now.

In 2010 it was taking Nexus and a main eventer in Barret, taking a great 6 month build and blowing it off in mere weeks. The Nexus stuff never recovered and now Barrett is stuck between midcard and jobber.

Now you have CM Punk, where the WWE strikes gold and has the biggest "Stone Cold" type of anti hero since the whole Austin 3:16 stuff almost 15 years ago. He has one of the better feuds in a LONG time, and the WWE turns him face.

They knock him down a peg but it's ok, we got a nice long building feud to have HHH/Corporation take on the new anti-hero. It's all perfectly put in place to have this be a long standing feud that not only can be a great main event feud without involving Cena, but could begin to elevate other heels to join with the Corporate WWE stable.

Instead, they're going to blow all of this off and instead, put HHH/Punk in a match ONE MONTH after it begins?!?!

One has to hope this WILL NOT happen, or I think I'm just going to give up on WWE for good. Really don't see the point investing myself into a good product if the WWE is going to destroy great feuds to spite itself.

cool

[Juan]

story

[Gonzo]

Wait, what happened?

The main event was boring me so I stopped my DVR and deleted it. How did we arrive to HHH/Punk already?

[Skippord]

bro

[Skippord]

dammit Gonzo

[Hanso Amore]

Fag

[Blakeamus]

You serious, bro?

[Hanso Amore]

Damnit I tried to put fag in for bro and was going to be be all funny with OOPS I MEAn BRO

It played out good in my head. Fuck everyone of you.

[Shisen Kopf]

3 times the letter H will not fight Punk. Stephanie will get involved soon and not allow it. It's gonna be Oz vs CM Punk at the next In Your House ppv

[Juan]

Look I think Nash/Punk is pretty stupid as you could have easily elevated another heel.

But blowing off HHH/Punk already is just pure stupidity. At the least, this could have been held off until Survivor Series and SHOULD have been a co-main event to WrestleMania.

I dunno, I'd rather see Punk in a title match at Mania. Just me tho

[Hanso Amore]

IN YOUR HOUSE: Cult of Personality

[Shisen Kopf]

Wait, what happened?

Someone set us up the bomb

[Hanso Amore]

I dont get this. Will like to see it play out next week. Nash Vs HHH now in a WHO GETS TO FIGHT PUNK angle....which Nash wins...fight punk, and HH swervesto take out Punk.

Then we Start Corporate HHH vs Punk

[Emperor Smeat]

Wait, what happened?

The main event was boring me so I stopped my DVR and deleted it. How did we arrive to HHH/Punk already?

I'd assume Triple H finally had it with all the jokes CM Punk did about his wife either with the insults to her or making it seem like she has all the power and his balls are in her purse like Punk once said.

The announcement itself was pretty random because Cena's music never stopped so it was hard to hear what Triple H was saying on tv.

[Blakeamus]

3 times the letter H will not fight Punk. Stephanie will get involved soon and not allow it. It's gonna be Oz vs CM Punk at the next In Your House ppv

Yeah, like a TNA type booking...

[Blakeamus]

I dont get this. Will like to see it play out next week. Nash Vs HHH now in a WHO GETS TO FIGHT PUNK angle....which Nash wins...fight punk, and HH swervesto take out Punk.

Then we Start Corporate HHH vs Punk

Poke of DOOOOOOOOOM!

[Shisen Kopf]

IN YOUR HOUSE: Cult of Personality

Super Shredder vs CM the punk

[Crimson]

Yea i'm hoping HHH/Punk doesn't happen this soon..but there needs to be a reason why Nash was scratched off. Plz don't blow this angle it's THE ONLY REASON IM WATCHING RIGHT NOW

[JimmyMess]

so will it be a triple threat as to not expose nash as much?

[Crimson]

Triple threat doesn't make sense I don't think.

[Crimson]

Or maybe it does.

[Xero]

I have a feeling Nash vs Punk will still happen. It was just so fucking random to do it at the end of the night like that. Obviously wasn't even shown in the arena.

If it doesn't happen, I'm thinking Nash may have failed the talent tests or something. And if it doesn't, they're blowing their load WAAYYYYYYY to early on Punk vs Hunter. That needs to stew until AT LEAST Survivor Series, preferably longer. Hunter is still being shoehorned into his spot, and Punk is still finding his place at the top.

Thinking about it, maybe Vince made/is making the call. Or Johnny Ace is making it for Vince. And something weird will happen in the match.

[Cool King]

Well hey, the WWE is destroying marketable angles in record time now.

In 2010 it was taking Nexus and a main eventer in Barret, taking a great 6 month build and blowing it off in mere weeks. The Nexus stuff never recovered and now Barrett is stuck between midcard and jobber.

Barrett is currently in an angle where he's saying he demands better competition. He'll get better competition soon, by either attacking some big face on SmackDown or just being handed better competition and both will most likely lead to something.

Now you have CM Punk, where the WWE strikes gold and has the biggest "Stone Cold" type of anti hero since the whole Austin 3:16 stuff almost 15 years ago. He has one of the better feuds in a LONG time, and the WWE turns him face.

They knock him down a peg but it's ok, we got a nice long building feud to have HHH/Corporation take on the new anti-hero. It's all perfectly put in place to have this be a long standing feud that not only can be a great main event feud without involving Cena, but could begin to elevate other heels to join with the Corporate WWE stable.

Instead, they're going to blow all of this off and instead, put HHH/Punk in a match ONE MONTH after it begins?!?!

One has to hope this WILL NOT happen, or I think I'm just going to give up on WWE for good. Really don't see the point investing myself into a good product if the WWE is going to destroy great feuds to spite itself.

Just see it as todays "Austin vs Vince" I guess. Punk being the outspoken "rebel" or whatever you want to call it, and Triple H as "The Boss".

You never know what will happen at the PPV or even tomorrow. For all you know, on SmackDown, Stephanie could say no to the match happening as Triple H is COO. So Triple H quits but he can't as he has to wait until his COO contract runs out, which will be before Survivor Series or whatever. Or at NoC, Laurinaitis could interrupt the match so it'll have to take place again at some point. So many possibilities.

Basically, give it all time. Storylines need time to develop in order to be interesting to the viewers.

[jkman61494]

I dunno, I'd rather see Punk in a title match at Mania. Just me tho

Look I would too but the reality is one way or another, Cena is going to have the belt against the Rock.

The best cases for Punk are he vs. HHH or maybe COO HHH forcing him to fight the Undertaker.

[Lock Jaw]

Crowd seemed pretty dead for Punk/Miz. Boo-urns for whatever city they were in.

Lawler is really hurting Otunga and McGillicutty with his commentary. Burying them way worse than Michael Cole has ever buried anybody. I mean, I don't even like Otunga or Mikey McG, but yeah... feel kinda bad for them.



Also, Sheamus and Cena. Commentators kept mentioning their "storied past" and if they could trust one another... but there wasn't even like, a look of hesitation, dislike, or distrust. -1 point for the Sheamus face turn.

[Crimson]

Yeah crowd sucked tonight. Specially that dumb bitch holding the CM SUCKS sign..how dare she/he

[Juan]

Lawler is really hurting Otunga and McGillicutty with his commentary. Burying them way worse than Michael Cole has ever buried anybody. I mean, I don't even like Otunga or Mikey McG, but yeah... feel kinda bad for them.


I actually liked it. First interesting thing Otunga and Hennig have been involved in since the Nexus

[Lock Jaw]

There's still gotta be some fans out there who are confused about CM Punk and still think he is a heel.

[jkman61494]

Barrett is currently in an angle where he's saying he demands better competition. He'll get better competition soon, by either attacking some big face on SmackDown or just being handed better competition and both will most likely lead to something.



Just see it as todays "Austin vs Vince" I guess. Punk being the outspoken "rebel" or whatever you want to call it, and Triple H as "The Boss".

You never know what will happen at the PPV or even tomorrow. For all you know, on SmackDown, Stephanie could say no to the match happening as Triple H is COO. So Triple H quits but he can't as he has to wait until his COO contract runs out, which will be before Survivor Series or whatever. Or at NoC, Laurinaitis could interrupt the match so it'll have to take place again at some point. So many possibilities.

Basically, give it all time. Storylines need time to develop in order to be interesting to the viewers.

I know where you're coming from , but one has to be skeptical given how the WWE has done these kind of feuds.

I missed a good bit of Raw though. Is there any explanation why Nash was using the old NWO theme and not Diesel?


As for the -1 on Sheamus, I tend to agree. There really is no reason why he needs to be an uber face right now. He could easily be an anti-establishment type of face in his own right, it's being proven that it works in today's WWE.

Before Orton became an uber face now, he got popular by being bad. The whole "Orton goes pscyho" schtick got him way over. Now you have Punk of course.

They could go this direction with Sheamus too instead of shaking hands with the Cena's of the world. Having him hit an irish curse on Cena as we faded to black would have given him a huge pop not to mention show that while he's a face, he doesn't run with the cheap face pop type.

[Cool King]

Yeah crowd sucked tonight. Specially that dumb bitch holding the CM SUCKS sign..how dare she/he

The sign said "CM SKUNK".

And Raw was in Tulsa, Oklahoma tonight.

[Lock Jaw]

I actually liked it. First interesting thing Otunga and Hennig have been involved in since the Nexus

I like that it seems to be going somewhere. Just, the comments did not need to be as harsh to get the same result.

[Juan]

Why is everyone obsessed with the "anti-establishment" face?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Because they want another John Cena obviously.

[Lock Jaw]

Because people like Batman more than Superman

[Captain of Fun]

Look I would too but the reality is one way or another, Cena is going to have the belt against the Rock.

The best cases for Punk are he vs. HHH or maybe COO HHH forcing him to fight the Undertaker.

Why is that the reality?

Also, if they are really going to do HHH vs Punk this soon, then that might mean there have been some developments regarding the Punk vs Austin rumors for wrestlemania.

[Mr. C]

CM Punk vs. Triple-H will be Triple-H beating down Punk as revenge for his comments about Stephanie. Punk won’t stay down, Triple-H keeps beating him down. I imagine Kevin Nash and X-Pac will show up to beat on Punk.

I really wanted to see Punk vs. Nash.

I missed a good bit of Raw though. Is there any explanation why Nash was using the old NWO theme and not Diesel?

WWE.com is hinting at Nash reforming the nWo.

[Blakeamus]

I see them reforming the "Kliq" than the NWO.

[Mr. C]

They were known backstage as the Kliq, so it wouldn't make sense for them to reunite as anything other than that. Some members were never in DX, and Triple-H was never in the nWo.

However, I personally would love to see the nWo come back. Shawn Michaels obviously wouldn't have to wrestle, but Big Show, Kevin Nash, Triple-H, and X-Pac could. Do what would've been in 2002 if Nash never got hurt.

[Aguakate]

...is it me, or is WWE all over the place?

I thought they were purposely playing with our minds so we won't know what's going to happen, but...I'm getting the feeling they really DON'T know what the outcome of some storylines will be...

...this RAW was a bit of a clusterfuck.

[Tom Guycott]

LttP:

- Really? nWo porn music? We want Deisel Blues! Besides, that song infers an appearance by Hall, or at least some X-Pac-ery.

- Is it just me, or does Nash seem kinda Botox-y? Getting a facelift is fine, but dying your hair is cause for grumble?

- Expected Punk to say something about "sympathy quad tears". Thanks a lot, TPWW!

- So, we can swear now in the 'E, but we can't say "douchebag". Good to know!

- Will Lil' Naitch be reprising his role from WCW as "yes man" to Laurenitus?

- Punk got the jobber entrance? I'm shocked there aren't 3 threads about this happening- in between two more threads about one Hardy or another. Also waiting on the gif for Punk mocking Miz, or Punk saying "WHO WANTS TO FIGHT?!" that sounded suspiciously like "WHO WANTS TO FUCK?!" I am dissapoint. (I remember'd the tags this time)

-"OH SNAP! WE FORGOT THE LIGHTING TREATMENT FOR SIN CARA! LETS JUST TURN IT ON WITH THE MATCH IN PROGRESS! NOT DISTRACTING AT ALL!"

- Air Boom. I would have gone with something like Flying Frenzy or something, but whatevs. It's short, sweet, to the point, and incorporates both men. Insignia and t-shirts coming soon. Hope they look cool.

I actually liked it. First interesting thing Otunga and Hennig have been involved in since the Nexus

- I actually made an accurate prediction? DANGER!!! BEWARE, THE APOCALYPSE IS NIGH!!! Actually, don't crawl into your bomb shelters yet, because I also said they'd get themselves a manager/makeover upon confronting Lawler. More specifically, they get added to Vicki's stable.

- The nose to nooooose announcement about the "match change" at NoC seemed kind of just slapdashed in there. "YAAAAAY, CENA WINS!! You and me, Punk. YAAAAAY, BACK TO CENA WINS!" Something so "important" seemed kind of afterthought-y.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

- Really? nWo porn music? We want Deisel Blues!

No we don't. Stop that.

Also, I'm liking the new presentation where backstage segments are happening while celebrations are happening and that little highlight package for Dolph before his match with Orton.

[Tom Guycott]

...is it me, or is WWE all over the place?

I thought they were purposely playing with our minds so we won't know what's going to happen, but...I'm getting the feeling they really DON'T know what the outcome of some storylines will be...

...this RAW was a bit of a clusterfuck.

Agreed. I don't like the idea of "continual supershows". Defeats the purpose of the brand split and only gets the "top draws" on TV. Ziggler/Orton was good and all, but I can do without seeing Orton on RAW AND Smackdown weekly. Give somone else that spot.

[Captain of Fun]

Deisel theme would make more sense than NWO, to be fair.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's theme music, why does it have to "make sense"?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

For a start he's Kevin Nash and not Diesel so Diesel Blues would surely make less sense, if there is a checksheet for some kind of music coming out of speakers making sense.

[Juan]

Deisel theme would make more sense than NWO, to be fair.

It'd make sense if he was still being called Diesel, like at the RR, but he's Kevin Nash now and Kevin Nash is synonymous with the NWO

[Aguakate]

...WWE is so all over the place, they haven't even properly presented Kevin Nash to the present-day WWE audience...

...it's like: He looks like Diesel...but he goes by "Kevin Nash"...but they refer to him as "Big Daddy Cool"...but he comes out with the NWO as his theme...but they presented him as Diesel on WWE.COM's "Who is Kevin Nash?"...

...the whole thing got off on the wrong foot...

[Juan]

Plus, they were worried that people wouldn't remember who Kevin Nah is, and I'm sure more people recognize the NWO music then his old theme

[Captain of Fun]

He wasn't Deisel when he used it in 2003 or whatever.

And no it doesn't make less sense. It's not like Deisel was some outlandish gimmick character. Whether he is deisel or nash, he walks, talks, and wrestles the same. Only difference is that his top says deisel on it.

Makes more sense than using music for a faction that's been dead for over 5 years.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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CLEARLY this would have made the most sense despite it being awful.

I give this Raw an F- for a theme that didn't "make sense" somehow. CURSE YOU NONSENSICAL MUSIC! CURSE YOU TO THE DEPTHS OF HELL!

[Tom Guycott]

No we don't. Stop that.

Also, I'm liking the new presentation where backstage segments are happening while celebrations are happening and that little highlight package for Dolph before his match with Orton.

The idea is okay of things happening in the world at the same time, but something that was supposed to be all epic got completely undersold because all the focus was on what was going on in the ring. It came off like "oh, :yawn: by the way, I'm taking Nash's place at the PPV". This whole angle was leading up to that moment and it seemed to me it deserved a bit more focus.

It'd be like if during Jericho's debut he had no countdown, no pyro, and during his speech he just gets cut of by The Rock so he can continue cutting a promo on the Big Show. What is widely considered one of the biggest debuts ever would have been completely wiped away. I know this is an extreme example, but its what I used to make my point. HHH/Punk announcement should have been HUGE- not an afterthought.

[Aguakate]

He wasn't Deisel when he used it in 2003 or whatever.

And no it doesn't make less sense. It's not like Deisel was some outlandish gimmick character. Whether he is deisel or nash, he walks, talks, and wrestles the same. Only difference is that his top says deisel on it.

Makes more sense than using music for a faction that's been dead for over 5 years.

In 2003 he used a theme SIMILAR to "Diesel Blues"...but it WASN'T "Diesel Blues"...

...it's on YouTube...look it up.

Now that I think of it, in 2003 WWE also didn't know how to present him to the audience...they could've EASILY had him just come out as Kevin Nash, as he was in WCW, but NO...they insist on bringing up the "Diesel" character, even if it's the "look", the music, etc...

[Juan]

Seems like the crowd knew exactly who Nash was.

Typically, this is only an issue with the IWC

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The idea is okay of things happening in the world at the same time, but something that was supposed to be all epic got completely undersold because all the focus was on what was going on in the ring. It came off like "oh, :yawn: by the way, I'm taking Nash's place at the PPV". This whole angle was leading up to that moment and it seemed to me it deserved a bit more focus.

It'd be like if during Jericho's debut he had no countdown, no pyro, and during his speech he just gets cut of by The Rock so he can continue cutting a promo on the Big Show. What is widely considered one of the biggest debuts ever would have been completely wiped away. I know this is an extreme example, but its what I used to make my point. HHH/Punk announcement should have been HUGE- not an afterthought.

Maybe the point is purely to create intrigue for tomorrow/next week and that HHH/Punk isn't actually going to happen? Then there would be an outcry of people who didn't like that the match was announced as such a big deal and now isn't happening at all.

[Tom Guycott]

He wasn't Deisel when he used it in 2003 or whatever.

And no it doesn't make less sense. It's not like Deisel was some outlandish gimmick character. Whether he is deisel or nash, he walks, talks, and wrestles the same. Only difference is that his top says deisel on it.

Makes more sense than using music for a faction that's been dead for over 5 years.

Not only that, but he JUST used it at the Royal Rumble.

I don't care if it's called "Jacknife" on that vid now, or whatevs. It's still Deisel Blues. And it still would have seemed less out of place than nWo music.

[Captain of Fun]

In 2003 he used a theme SIMILAR to "Diesel Blues"...but it WASN'T "Diesel Blues"...

...it's on YouTube...look it up.



Why would you want the original Deisel Blues?

This is the theme I was thinking he would use.

[Aguakate]

It's just that it seems WWE is doing things "on the fly"...there doesn't seem to be much planning going on right now...

...It makes me nervous as to how they'll book the Cena/Rock angle...as it stands, if they keep changing things up at the last minute and improvising, we'll see them move the match up to the December PPV or something...

[Aguakate]

Why would you want the original Deisel Blues?

This is the theme I was thinking he would use.

...'cause he just used it this past Royal Rumble, maybe?

[Juan]

I don't how the NWO music was out of place. Kevin Nash is arguably most known for being in the NWO. Someone help me out here.

[Captain of Fun]

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CLEARLY this would have made the most sense despite it being awful.

I give this Raw an F- for a theme that didn't "make sense" somehow. CURSE YOU NONSENSICAL MUSIC! CURSE YOU TO THE DEPTHS OF HELL!

I never said anything about the show being bad because of this, you silly billy.

NWO theme isn't that great either, mister.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I feel compelled to tell you that the 2003 theme is called "JACKNIFE".

Hopefully this will make everything make more sense in this crazy mixed up world of theme tunes.

[Tom Guycott]

The name of The Rock's theme has changed like 10 times: its the same song, just keeps being rearranged for updates. Same for Nash.

[Juan]

It's just that it seems WWE is doing things "on the fly"...there doesn't seem to be much planning going on right now...

...It makes me nervous as to how they'll book the Cena/Rock angle...as it stands, if they keep changing things up at the last minute and improvising, we'll see them move the match up to the December PPV or something...

TBF, we don't KNOW things are being booked on the fly. It just seems that way and personally, it makes for much more interesting shows.

[Aguakate]

I don't how the NWO music was out of place. Kevin Nash is arguably most known for being in the NWO. Someone help me out here.

...I don't think it was OUT OF PLACE as much as just RANDOM.

It's as if Triple H came out with the DX music next Monday, even though DX isn't up and running anymore...

...it'd be like "Ok?"

[Tom Guycott]

Not like I said I wanted the fucking truck engine noise. Calm down, people.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

...I don't think it was OUT OF PLACE as much as just RANDOM.

It's as if Triple H came out with the DX music next Monday, even though DX isn't up and running anymore...

...it'd be like "Ok?"

I'd be like "WOOOOO" and then pull my glowsticks out.

[Juan]

I guarantee you more people recognized the NWO music then they would have "Diesel Blues"

[Tom Guycott]

...I don't think it was OUT OF PLACE as much as just RANDOM.

It's as if Triple H came out with the DX music next Monday, even though DX isn't up and running anymore...

...it'd be like "Ok?"

Call it what you like, but that was my sentiment. I agree with this.

[Juan]

Call it what you like, but that was my sentiment.

Yeah, but WWE audience KNOWS HHH ins't in DX anymore, so it's not the same.

Right now, the storyline is that no one knows why Nash in even doing in WWE, so it makes just a LITTLE more sense, wouldn't you say?

[Captain of Fun]

I don't how the NWO music was out of place. Kevin Nash is arguably most known for being in the NWO. Someone help me out here.

Because the NWO is long dead? Because the last time he was in WWE, he didn't use it?

NWO was such a huge thing, that was about so much more than just Kevin Nash, that it feels weird to me, to see someone simply using their theme when it has no relevance.

Just feels like a theme that should be used for the actual NWO, and the actual NWO, only. Not a former member, years after it's gone defunct.

[Juan]

So you expect more people to remember his dreadful 2003 run more than his world famous NWO run?

[Aguakate]

Yeah, but WWE audience KNOWS HHH ins't in DX anymore, so it's not the same.

Right now, the storyline is that no one knows why Nash in even doing in WWE, so it makes just a LITTLE more sense, wouldn't you say?

...they're not bringing back the NWO, dude.

[Captain of Fun]

I guarantee you more people recognized the NWO music then they would have "Diesel Blues"

Why does that matter?

[Juan]

...they're not bringing back the NWO, dude.

I know that :?:

My point is that WWE was worried that the current audience wouldn't remember Nash, so why not use his most famous theme that MORE people will remember?

I just think you guys are nit picking this to the max

[Juan]

Why does that matter?

Because it's been reported more than once that the WWE was worried the current audience wouldn't remember who Nash is?

[Tom Guycott]

How does the "nobody knows his motivation" angle have anything to do with him walking down the ramp to nWo music? Hunter is Kliq, yes, but wasn't in the nWo, so that doesn't even cast sideways doubt. It's a stretch, at best. And like I said, it brings expectations of others associated with said music, and so far, it's just Nash. And possibly Super Dave- but even HE had nothing to do with the nWo.

[Aguakate]

I know that :?:

My point is that WWE was worried that the current audience wouldn't remember Nash, so why not use his most famous theme that MORE people will remember?

I just think you guys are nit picking this to the max

...Dude got the loudest POP at the Royal Rumble out of every other wrestler that night...I think people remember him...

[Juan]

We want to reintroduce Nash to the current audience, should we use his old Blues theme that only the IWC remembers, or should we use the theme he is more known for?

Decisions, decisions

[Captain of Fun]

Yeah, but WWE audience KNOWS HHH ins't in DX anymore, so it's not the same.

Right now, the storyline is that no one knows why Nash in even doing in WWE, so it makes just a LITTLE more sense, wouldn't you say?

What? No.

Does the WWE audience not know Kevin Nash is no longer in the NWO?

What does entrance music have to do with his motives for returning?

[Aguakate]

We want to reintroduce Nash to the current audience, should we use his old Blues theme that only the IWC remembers, or should we use the theme he is more known for?

Decisions, decisions

If that was the purpose, they're about 3 weeks too late.

[Juan]

What? No.

Does the WWE audience not know Kevin Nash is no longer in the NWO?

What does entrance music have to do with his motives for returning?

My point is that the NWO music makes more sense than 20 year old music that no one remembers

[Juan]

If that was the purpose, they're about 3 weeks too late.

I agree

[Tom Guycott]

Because it's been reported more than once that the WWE was worried the current audience wouldn't remember who Nash is?

They could have fixed that by not having him appear ONCE at the Rumble then never seen or heard from again until a couple of weeks ago.

Booker was a "surprise" entrant too, and he's been on commentary pretty much since then.

And people seemed to know who both men were at said Royal Rumble.

[Juan]

Can't believe this is a such a big deal for you guys. He could come out to David Flair's theme for all I care

[Juan]

They could have fixed that by not having him appear ONCE at the Rumble then never seen or heard from again until a couple of weeks ago.

I agree. They should have done it sooner. Doesn't mean it makes less sense now.

Also, maybe I'[m alone here, but I don't think the MSG crowd truly reflects the "average" WWE audience.

WWE can't hang their hat on what a notoriously smarky crowd reacted to.

[Captain of Fun]

We want to reintroduce Nash to the current audience, should we use his old Blues theme that only the IWC remembers, or should we use the theme he is more known for?

Decisions, decisions

If the theme he was most known for was HIS theme and not the theme of an entire faction.

The NWO theme was as big a part of the NWO as anything else involved, and using it for anything other than the NWO, feels out of place to me.

And if people don't know who Kevin fucking Nash is, then they aren't going to know who the NWO are, because he was with them from beginning to end.

[Aguakate]

Can't believe this is a such a big deal for you guys. He could come out to David Flair's theme for all I care

...Kevin Nash brings out emotions that were asleep until recently :shifty:

[Captain of Fun]

Can't believe this is a such a big deal for you guys. He could come out to David Flair's theme for all I care

Just because we are discussing it, doesn't mean it's a big deal to me. You can have a good discussion about anything, no matter it's unimportance.

[Aguakate]

From the front page:

– WWE’s website has published an article looking at Kevin Nash’s return and how it’s similar to the NWO, teasing the return of the infamous group. As seen on RAW tonight, Nash is using the NWO theme music.


...Oh, please no...

[Juan]

And if people don't know who Kevin fucking Nash is, then they aren't going to know who the NWO are, because he was with them from beginning to end.

I disagree. I'm willing to bet money that more people know who the NWO was, than just Kevin Nash individuality.

Anyway, that's beyond the point. Seems like this theme issue is more of a personal hang-up than a "WWE fucked" issue. My advice is for you to get over it. In a few weeks no one will remember or care what theme Kevin Nash came out to on August 29, 2011

[Tom Guycott]

Can't believe this is a such a big deal for you guys. He could come out to David Flair's theme for all I care

Which one, the WWE one that became an internet meme, or the giggly one he had in WCW with Daffney and Crowbar?

[Juan]

From the front page:

– WWE’s website has published an article looking at Kevin Nash’s return and how it’s similar to the NWO, teasing the return of the infamous group. As seen on RAW tonight, Nash is using the NWO theme music.


...Oh, please no...

I rest my case

[Juan]

Which one, the WWE one that became an internet meme, or the giggly one he had in WCW with Daffney and Crowbar?

The meme one is def. better

[Aguakate]

http://www.wwe.com/inside/wwefeaturepage/modern-nwo-members


WTF?

[Tom Guycott]

From the front page:

– WWE’s website has published an article looking at Kevin Nash’s return and how it’s similar to the NWO, teasing the return of the infamous group. As seen on RAW tonight, Nash is using the NWO theme music.


...Oh, please no...

Actually, that makes it make more sense. You may or may not like the idea, but there it is.

[Captain of Fun]

I disagree. I'm willing to bet money that more people know who the NWO was, than just Kevin Nash individuality.

Anyway, that's beyond the point. Seems like this theme issue is more of a personal hang-up than a "WWE fucked" issue. My advice is for you to get over it. In a few weeks no one will remember or care what theme Kevin Nash came out to on August 29, 2011


It doesn't actually bother me, so I don't need to get over it.

And if they were intending to tease an NWO return, they should have done more than just play the entrance music. Given the response, I'm not the only one who was thrown off by it, and didn't see an NWO return, in the move.

[Aguakate]

http://www.wwe.com/inside/wwefeaturepage/return-of-the-nwo

Fifteen years ago, Kevin Nash rocked sports-entertainment by assembling the infamous New World Order. More than a decade later, WWE may be on the brink of a new incarnation of the black and white. The influential group’s beginnings were rooted in confusion and conspiracy involving Kevin Nash, similar to the current state of WWE.

In 1996, The Outsiders, Kevin Nash and Scott Hall — known in WWE as Diesel and Razor Ramon, respectively — began appearing on WCW Monday Nitro. Their infamous words, “you want a war?” immediately struck a nerve and paranoia about a coming WWE invasion ran rampant inside the WCW locker room. At Bash at the Beach, Hulk Hogan shocked the world when he joined The Outsiders to form the New World Order, one of the most impactful groups in history.

The paranoia of a new regime coming into WCW in 1996 draws bold parallels to the current state of WWE under Triple H. While the Chief Operating Officer claims to have the best interests of the organization at heart, both his reputation as The Cerebral Assassin and the return of Kevin Nash have no doubt led CM Punk and the WWE Universe to draw conclusions similar to those brought up in WCW’s locker room in 1996. While the question over who summoned Nash to take down The Second City Savior at SummerSlam remains unanswered, the possibility of a reborn New World Order is among suspicions. Adding fuel to the paranoia is that fact that Nash came out to the nWo's unmistakable music on Raw.

All of the confusion and conspiracy stems from the mystery of who sent Nash the text message at SummerSlam. The atmosphere of deception and the inconsistent being told by Nash, Triple H and John Laurinaitis have led to widespread speculation among the WWE Universe and WWE Superstars. When the nWo first formed, that same sense of deceit from WCW competitors such as Hulk Hogan and reaching as high as WCW President Eric Bischoff is what allowed The New World Order to begin its rise to power.

All signs point to Nash’s collusion with WWE’s new COO. It’s no secret that they are close friends; both individuals have made that abundantly clear, acknowledging their friendship that stems back to the tight knit locker room group known as “The Kliq” with Shawn Michaels, Sean Waltman (X-Pac) and Scott Hall. Interestingly enough, when The Outsiders left WWE in 1996, separating The Kliq, Hall and Nash would eventually form The New World Order in WCW, while Shawn Michaels and Triple H, remaining in WWE, formed D-Generation X. Waltman was a member of both groups during their heydays in each respective brand. During the nWo’s WWE resurgence in 2002, when Nash took command of the group, Michaels joined and the two heavily recruited Triple H. An injury to Big Sexy led to that incarnation of the New World Order disbanding, but perhaps The Game and Nash are now bringing The Kliq full circle.

This could merely be the beginning of something greater. When the original nWo formed in WCW, it started with three competitors but soon expanded its ranks and grew exponentially in numbers. If the nWo was to reform today, there are a number of WWE Superstars who would fit in perfectly with the group’s method of operation.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I'm beginning to think that the Captain of Fun is ironically named.

[Captain of Fun]

If you're not having fun discussing Kevin Nash's theme music, well then I just don't know what to tell you.

[Tom Guycott]

The meme one is def. better

Like I said before, it's not like I said I wanted to hear the iding rig engine. I don't see why I'm getting shit on because I was personally dissappointed to hear nWo music instead of Diesel Blues*

And this whole "nobody but the IWC knows Nash's theme" sounds silly. Half the posters on this site didn't seem to know CM Punk was coming to the ring when he started RE-using "Cult of Personality" instead of that throwaway Orton theme he had since he started.



*Apparently, I'm going to have to start the asterisk gimmick with this like I do whenever I say Henning*. I don't care if you prefer it to be called "Jacknife" or not, it's the same damned song. I will refer to it as such, even if it means I go to IWC hell for taking Lord Nash's song name in vein. Diesel Blues*

[Juan]

to be fair, I would mark out to the NWO music even if Yoshi Tatsu came out to it

[Captain of Fun]

See? You're biased toward production music-turned entrance themes.

Why I'll bet Booker T's theme is a close second in your book.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

See, Nash should just be Tyson Kidd's bodyguard. Then we have Nash on the show and Kidd in the ring.

Somehow leading to Kidd V Punk :drool:

[Juan]

See? You're biased toward production music-turned entrance themes.

Why I'll bet Booker T's theme is a close second in your book.

It is, actually

[Aguakate]

See? You're biased toward production music-turned entrance themes.

Why I'll bet Booker T's theme is a close second in your book.

..."biased toward production music-turned entrance themes"?

Ok, you lost me...it's 4AM and that's too complicated.

[Tom Guycott]

And I meant to say (thus the quoting) that hearing David Flair's theme would have been more satisfying than what it is. Would have had the added bonus of being chuckle worthy.

[Aguakate]

See, Nash should just be Tyson Kidd's bodyguard. Then we have Nash on the show and Kidd in the ring.

Somehow leading to Kidd V Punk :drool:

He already was. He went by the name Jackson Andrews.

[Tom Guycott]

It is, actually

With or without the Harlem Heat "startup"?

[Tom Guycott]

He already was. He went by the name Jackson Andrews.

"Oh, you mean Jayne Cobb? You're talking about Jayne Cobb?!"

[Captain of Fun]

..."biased toward production music-turned entrance themes"?

Ok, you lost me...it's 4AM and that's too complicated.

The themes for the NWO, Harlem Heat, Hardys, and countless others weren't created by WWE or WCW. They were music that was accessible to anyone. Heard a lot of them as background music for radio and tv commercials.

[Juan]

With or without the Harlem Heat "startup"?

Def. the Harlem Heat version.

Yes yes

No no

[Captain of Fun]

It would be even better if it had a "Hulk Hogan, we comin' for you nigga!" startup.

[Tom Guycott]

The NWO, Harlem Heat, Hardys themes, and countless others weren't created by WWE or WCW. They were music that was accessible to anyone. Heard a lot of them as background music for radio and tv commercials.

...such as Baldcore Holly's old "superheavyweight gimmick" theme and the Hardy Boyz theme being currently used as Spike TV bumps and the Uso's original theme being in a body wash commercial.

[Juan]

I remember the WB used to use Lex Luger's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMBO3FI3S8I) theme for commercials for Buffy the Vampire Slayer

[Fox]

I think we can all agree that Nash should have come out to the Wolfpack music.


Also, why is no one discussing the fact that Triple H VS CM Punk is being rushed to PPV?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Also, why is no one discussing the fact that Triple H VS CM Punk is being rushed to PPV?

I get to possibly watch CM Punk Vs. HHH earlier than expected. I feel like running down the street high-fiving people.

[Cool King]

I can't believe that there is an entire page of the Raw thread that's just a debate about Nash's music. In typical IWC fashion, people bitch about Nash having no music (even though it made sense for him not to have music at that time) and when he gets music, they bitch about what music it is he has. :roll:

But I'd like to talk about the Orton/Ziggler match instead.

It was a great match and Ziggler was fantastic in it. To me, it was a PPV-esq match. So many turns in the match, mostly from Ziggler that made him look like a legitimate threat to Orton. There were times where I thought that maybe Ziggler would win and pull off an upset.

The ending I think may have been botched as it did look like Orton was getting ready to hit an RKO when Ziggler was in the air but he went against it, but that doesn't matter. The ending still looked good.

To me anyway, that was match of the night. :y:

I'm also interested to see how this "Super Show" business plays out and if this is indeed the end of the "Brand Extension".

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I agree, Ziggler vs Orton was a great match. They actually made me believe a few times that Ziggler could have picked up the win. Great job by both guys.

[Jura]

http://www.michellemccool.net/nick/gallery/albums/wwewebsite/digitals/02182011/SD_600_Photo_077.jpg

[Cool King]

Hopefully we can see him with a World Title again some day, but for a longer period of time.

[Tom Guycott]

I think we can all agree that Nash should have come out to the Wolfpack music.


Also, why is no one discussing the fact that Triple H VS CM Punk is being rushed to PPV?

... because some people were too busy bitching about the part where I stated my taste in music instead of the part where I mentioned the announcment of HHH/Punk seemed shoehorned into the program.

[Tom Guycott]

http://www.michellemccool.net/nick/gallery/albums/wwewebsite/digitals/02182011/SD_600_Photo_077.jpg

Hopefully we can see him with a World Title again some day, but for a longer period of time.

But not for awhile yet. Not a knock on HeelZiggles in a "he doesn't deserve it" way, but a testament to the fact that he is totally elevating the US Title right now. That match with Orton gave it that much more credibility and can seriously give the rub to whoever finally wins it from him and a shot in the arm to the midcard title picture.

Someday, but not too soon to derail this.

[Innovator]

Over face? Check.

September PPV? Check.

Odds of face being credibly shot down if he loses? Check.

Odds of face eating a Pedigree? Check.

IT'S ORTON'Ding TIME

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Orton wasn't over on his first face turn, not even close.

[Blakeamus]

I'm actually happy the CM Punk v.s. Triple H match is happening. I don't understand why people are complaining about the timing and how it was too soon. WWE has a PPV to sell. We all knew it was coming eventually.

[Blakeamus]

But not for awhile yet. Not a knock on HeelZiggles in a "he doesn't deserve it" way, but a testament to the fact that he is totally elevating the US Title right now. That match with Orton gave it that much more credibility and can seriously give the rub to whoever finally wins it from him and a shot in the arm to the midcard title picture.

Someday, but not too soon to derail this.

He impresses me each time he is giving the ball to work with guys like Orton or Cena. I just feel like now the Vickie crap is interfering with the credibility. I don't want to see Swagger and Dolph fighting for her...I want them fighting for the US title...take her out the picture and Dolph will elevate the US title to higher heights because the attention will be focus on HIM!

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I don't know what direction they're going so I will refrain from forming an opinion on the match until more comes out. I trust that WWE has more planned for this story than just "we need a big match to sell the PPV so we'll just throw this match out there."

But I do know that if they had done Hogan/Sting a month after the Bash at the Beach, all the stuff that happened after that would not have been nearly as cool as it was. But I have faith that there is something else going on with this story than what we've seen so far.

I guess we'll just have to tune in next week to find out!

[Blakeamus]

I don't know what direction they're going so I will refrain from forming an opinion on the match until more comes out. I trust that WWE has more planned for this story than just "we need a big match to sell the PPV so we'll just throw this match out there."

But I do know that if they had done Hogan/Sting a month after the Bash at the Beach, all the stuff that happened after that would not have been nearly as cool as it was. But I have faith that there is something else going on with this story than what we've seen so far.

I guess we'll just have to tune in next week to find out!

And that is what I think about too. I see something else going on with this.

[Lock Jaw]

I know where this whole Otunga/Mikey McG being called boring and bland thing is headed:

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[jkman61494]

I'm actually happy the CM Punk v.s. Triple H match is happening. I don't understand why people are complaining about the timing and how it was too soon. WWE has a PPV to sell. We all knew it was coming eventually.

Because it's a hot feud that could have taken MONTHS to marinate and have us enjoy. We had HHH saying he wouldn't lay a hand on Punk yet a month later now he's going to fight him?

You could have teased this for a long time. HHH could be a tweener as a guy that looks like he's trying to put forth a good product, but perhaps he's just another Vince McMahon.

This is the kind of feud that could have been a WrestleMania match.

There's still no reason WHY you need HHH and Punk at a PPV that's going to have every belt on the line. In fact WHY is this match happening at THIS PPV when there is no belt?! Nash vs. Punk could have been an unsanctioned grduge match or what not, but what's this going to be?

To me, what's most upsetting is the WWE is blowing an opportunity to give the rub to someone else. Maybe they make the Nash physical part of the storyline, and Punk comes out to berate him, but all of a sudden a mid card heel comes out to take Punk out to replace Nash.

Who could that be?
How about Ziggler, Swagger, Barrett or even Christian? Same cryptic text comes to them and now they're the one having the match.

It leads to an eventual corporate type stable, while prolonging the HHH/Punk match.

[Captain of Fun]

I can't believe that there is an entire page of the Raw thread that's just a debate about Nash's music. In typical IWC fashion, people bitch about Nash having no music (even though it made sense for him not to have music at that time) and when he gets music, they bitch about what music it is he has. :roll:


In typical IWC fashion, a poster acts high and mighty, as if he is above a particular discussion.

There can be a disagreement and discussion about something, without it being "bitching". It doesn't actually bother me that Nash came out to the NWO theme, and I'd guess it didn't bother anyone else who said the same. We were just commenting about how it felt odd.

I didn't know we were only allowed to talk about things that are of the utmost importance around here.

[Captain of Fun]

Because it's a hot feud that could have taken MONTHS to marinate and have us enjoy. We had HHH saying he wouldn't lay a hand on Punk yet a month later now he's going to fight him?

You could have teased this for a long time. HHH could be a tweener as a guy that looks like he's trying to put forth a good product, but perhaps he's just another Vince McMahon.

This is the kind of feud that could have been a WrestleMania match.

There's still no reason WHY you need HHH and Punk at a PPV that's going to have every belt on the line. In fact WHY is this match happening at THIS PPV when there is no belt?! Nash vs. Punk could have been an unsanctioned grduge match or what not, but what's this going to be?

To me, what's most upsetting is the WWE is blowing an opportunity to give the rub to someone else. Maybe they make the Nash physical part of the storyline, and Punk comes out to berate him, but all of a sudden a mid card heel comes out to take Punk out to replace Nash.

Who could that be?
How about Ziggler, Swagger, Barrett or even Christian? Same cryptic text comes to them and now they're the one having the match.

It leads to an eventual corporate type stable, while prolonging the HHH/Punk match.

Why don't we all just simmer down, and wait to see where they go with this, before we squat down and take a dump on WWE's face. Like others have said, this could be part of an angle.

[jkman61494]

Why don't we all just simmer down, and wait to see where they go with this, before we squat down and take a dump on WWE's face. Like others have said, this could be part of an angle.

The latest word is that due to Nash having an issue with his physical they are going down this route.

[Cool King]

In typical IWC fashion, a poster acts high and mighty, as if he is above a particular discussion.

There can be a disagreement and discussion about something, without it being "bitching". It doesn't actually bother me that Nash came out to the NWO theme, and I'd guess it didn't bother anyone else who said the same. We were just commenting about how it felt odd.

I didn't know we were only allowed to talk about things that are of the utmost importance around here.

I wasn't acting "high and mighty", I was purely saying how I can't believe a page of the Raw thread is just complaining about music.

But you had loads of things to talk about from Raw.

Orton/Ziggler
Lawler's comments about Otunga & McGillicutty
Triple H vs Punk
Is that Sin Cara 1 or 2 that's in the ring?
Where is the Swagger/Ziggler angle going?
The team of Miz & Truth
Even the name of Kofi & Bourne's team, to name a few.

Instead, you chose to talk about one of the most meaningless things that happened on Raw, the choice of someone's music.

After about two weeks of complaining that Nash has no music, he get's music and people aren't happy at it. I'm not saying you can't talk about it, it's just why talk about something so pointless? Nobody is going to care in the future about the music Nash used last night. But if you want to talk about Nash's music, then fine.

Personally, I think the choice of Nash's music is understandable. Diesel's theme wouldn't suit him as he isn't Diesel, he's Kevin Nash. His 2003 theme sounds too much like Diesel's theme but when he was in the nWo, Kevin Nash was himself and that's who Kevin Nash is at the moment. Kevin Nash is playing Kevin Nash on WWE television, so it makes sense to give him the theme from when he was himself.

Also....

Makes more sense than using music for a faction that's been dead for over 5 years.

So you're saying it would make more sense if he used music from a gimmick that's been dead for 15 years then?

[XL]

The music doesn't really matter.

Especially as it seems WWE have banked on a guy that can't even wrestle and have let that guy get the upperhand physically over their hottest property (Punk) for the last 3 weeks.

I this were TNA people here would be all over it. (see: the Main Event Mafia debacle)

[Captain of Fun]

I wasn't acting "high and mighty", I was purely saying how I can't believe a page of the Raw thread is just complaining about music.

But you had loads of things to talk about from Raw.

Orton/Ziggler
Lawler's comments about Otunga & McGillicutty
Triple H vs Punk
Is that Sin Cara 1 or 2 that's in the ring?
Where is the Swagger/Ziggler angle going?
The team of Miz & Truth
Even the name of Kofi & Bourne's team, to name a few.

Instead, you chose to talk about one of the most meaningless things that happened on Raw, the choice of someone's music.

After about two weeks of complaining that Nash has no music, he get's music and people aren't happy at it. I'm not saying you can't talk about it, it's just why talk about something so pointless? Nobody is going to care in the future about the music Nash used last night. But if you want to talk about Nash's music, then fine.

Personally, I think the choice of Nash's music is understandable. Diesel's theme wouldn't suit him as he isn't Diesel, he's Kevin Nash. His 2003 theme sounds too much like Diesel's theme but when he was in the nWo, Kevin Nash was himself and that's who Kevin Nash is at the moment. Kevin Nash is playing Kevin Nash on WWE television, so it makes sense to give him the theme from when he was himself.

Also....



So you're saying it would make more sense if he used music from a gimmick that's been dead for 15 years then?


AHA!

Now YOU are discussing it. I guess Ziggler/Orton wasn't so important after all.

VICTORY

[Cool King]

Clearly it wasn't.

May I sleep easy tonight knowing that we've reached some kind of understanding on the major importance that is Nash's music.

Afterall, that's why we all watch wrestling, for the cool music. :y:

[Captain of Fun]

I actually watch it to find out which color trunks CM Punk is going to wear.

[Shadrick]

...Dude got the loudest POP at the Royal Rumble out of every other wrestler that night...I think people remember him...

Bookers was bigger. I was there.

Also, the word "Diesel" is misspelled WAY too many times in this thread. That disappoints me.

[Corndad]

Well guess this explains it. From the Front Page:


The Reason WWE Changed CM Punk vs. Kevin Nash
By Ryan Clark on Tuesday, August 30th, 2011 at 12:43 PM EST

Partial Source: The Wrestling Observer

WWE officials made the decision some time in the past week or so that Kevin Nash won’t be wrestling for them. It’s likely Nash will stick around for the time being and participate in the occasional angle but unless something changes, he won’t be having a match. This is why CM Punk vs. Kevin Nash at Night of Champions was changed to Punk vs. Triple H. WWE knew going into RAW last night that Nash wouldn’t be wrestling.

We reported last week that Nash recently went to Pittsburgh to do physicals for the company and something happened there that made them decide that they don’t want Nash in the ring taking bumps and doing something as physical as a whole match. There is still some chance that Nash could end up wrestling but something happened after the physicals that has put a roadblack in front of Nash’s return match.

The decision to put Triple H in the match with Punk wasn’t made until yesterday afternoon. The original plans had Punk going over Nash at Night of Champions.



Still hope its changed and the Punk/HHH is held off in some way.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I still hope it goes ahead ASAP and they have a great first match. The first of many.

[Blakeamus]

Could you imagine an Iron Man Match with these two?

[Captain of Fun]

I could imagine a lot of things, but not Triple H in an Iron Man match. At least not a 60 minute one.

[Blakeamus]

And why not?

[Aguakate]

I could imagine a lot of things, but not Triple H in an Iron Man match. At least not a 60 minute one.

Triple H went like, what, 30, 35 minutes vs Undertaker? He can still do a fullblown Iron Man Match, even more so with Punk.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I could imagine a lot of things, but not Triple H in an Iron Man match. At least not a 60 minute one.

This should help you imagine it a bit easier.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_D-e3YW5nIpQ/SIdrKoBDkgI/AAAAAAAAAHw/yNkXvb67MxA/s320/Iron+Man+Match.jpg

[Captain of Fun]

He's older now, and has a lot more injuries. Like I said, 30 minutes I could see. But I can't see a 60 minute match without a lot of restholds, and slow stuff.:D

[Corporate CockSnogger]

You're really not very fun are you, Captain of Fun?

[Captain of Fun]

I have added a smiley to my last post, so that you may find it more fun.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I dunno. You should probably request a name change to 'Midshipman of Meh'

[JimmyMess]

whats this SHITE I'm hearing about Nash & physicals = no wrestling for WWE?

BULLTITS.

[St. Jimmy]

I like that it seems to be going somewhere. Just, the comments did not need to be as harsh to get the same result.

Unlike the fucking WEEKLY "Daniel Bryan is a geek/dweeb/nerd and is boring" comments from Cole which are going nowhere and doing nothing.

[St. Jimmy]

Oh wait, they're telling the fans to chant "Boring" during Danielsons matches - WHICH THEY ARE DOING.

[Captain of Fun]

I dunno. You should probably request a name change to 'Midshipman of Meh'

Creative just isn't using me to my full potential.

[Anybody Thrilla]

The nWo music is sweet. Some might even say....too sweet.

[St. Jimmy]

It doesn't really make any sense for Punk and Trips to chain-wrestle and have an epic Wrestling Match. It's a personal confrontation, they should throw bombs, do table spots, hit finishers, and pull out the weapons.

[Innovator]

The nWo music is sweet. Some might even say....too saaweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

[wwe2222]

As single wrestlers, I was not a fan of Kofi or Bourne. However, as a tag team, I find them very entertaining. I hope they let them carry the tag division for a while and find a good team to feud with.

Also enjoy that they seem to be coordinating outfit colors and have a team name (As bad as air boom is). Gives me hope for the tag division.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Nobody seems bothered by the fact that Hulk Hogan is currently using an nWo ripoff theme in TNA.

[Juan]

Makes no sense, I tells ya!

[ThePhantom]

Oh wait, they're telling the fans to chant "Boring" during Danielsons matches - WHICH THEY ARE DOING.


Did you ever think they are doing that, because he is boring? What a mistake giving him the money in the bank briefcase