MLB 2011-2012 Offseason Thread [Archive] - Page 6

Evil Vito

03-05-2012, 10:57 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Four LA Dodgers players, each of whom is the son of a former major leaguer, combined to hit for the cycle together during the sixth inning of today's game. Tony Gwynn Jr. (son of MLB hall-of-famer Tony Gwynn) singled and stole second, Justin Sellers (son of Jeff Sellers) doubled him in, Ivan DeJesus Jr. (son of Ivan DeJesus) tripled him in, and Scott Van Slyke (son of former all-star Andy Van Slyke) hit a two-run homer to finish off the stat sheet.</font>

screech

03-05-2012, 11:49 PM

That is awesome.

Supreme Olajuwon

03-06-2012, 12:45 AM

heard they still gave the cycle honor to Ryan Braun tho :(

Frank Drebin

03-06-2012, 12:54 AM

Ivan DeJesus Jr. (son of Ivan DeJesus)
lulz

Frank Drebin

03-06-2012, 01:02 AM

heard they still gave the cycle honor to Ryan Braun tho :(

So, we all know Braun gets a standing-o at Miller Park on opening day (if Penn State Football fans are totally cool with child rape, PEDs are small potatoes) and that he gets booed on the road for a while.

Two questions:
-How long do you think the fans on the road keep it up? (IE does it go through the season?)
-Does the booing effect him in any way, like it did Rafael Palmiero?

ClockShot

03-06-2012, 12:24 PM

Lenny Dykstra goes to prison for 3 years for GTA and filing false financial statements.

Do not pass go, do not collect $200, parking is not free.

RoXer

03-06-2012, 01:08 PM

UGHHH

Gotta go sit in the first row between 1B and RF today to see the REDS. Yuck.

At least I get to see Ichiro. Who the hell even knows who plays RF for the Reds. Guess I should look it up.

RoXer

03-06-2012, 01:10 PM

Hmmmm. Says here it's some guy named "Jay Bruce".

Who?!?!?!?! :?: :?: :?:

Supreme Olajuwon

03-06-2012, 01:38 PM

so fucking angry right now

RoXer

03-06-2012, 01:49 PM

And then TOMORROW I have to go all the way out to the middle of nowhere to see the Reds play the Padres. What an awful life I live.

RoXer

03-06-2012, 01:50 PM

(For real though, there's nothing out there in Goodyear)

RoXer

03-06-2012, 02:52 PM

Yup. This is the life.

No Votto or Bruce though. Maybe tomorrow. There's always tomorrow.

That's the great thing about living here, theres always another day to see soneone. Know what I'm saying? Theoretically, I could spend this entire month following the Reds.

But my god, who would want to put themselves through all that torture?

RoXer

03-06-2012, 02:55 PM

Is Chris Heisey any good, Supreme? He'll be in RF I think.

Supreme Olajuwon

03-06-2012, 03:01 PM

He's not bad. Supposed to be the starting LF this year over Ludwick.

Strikes out too much but other than that he's decent.

Evil Vito

03-06-2012, 03:05 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Even if it is only spring, it was great to see Johan on the mound in a game again. Looked comfortable. Dickey already has his knuckler in mid-season form too. Baseball.</font> :love:

Innovator

03-06-2012, 03:31 PM

THIS IS NOT A DRILL! THIS IS A ...wait what?

Droford

03-06-2012, 04:49 PM

DaveWadding

03-06-2012, 05:09 PM

:'(

Innovator

03-06-2012, 05:16 PM

The only team I would root to win the Series besides the Yankees would be the Cubs, just to see what the hell happens to Chicago.

Supreme Olajuwon

03-06-2012, 05:27 PM

I'm sure it wouldn't be any different than how other classless fans celebrate.

Frank Drebin

03-06-2012, 05:48 PM

I'm sure it wouldn't be any different than how other classless fans celebrate.

pfft. Please. Someones pissed because Dusty ran every pitchers arm into the ground. Cubs fans have never been described as classless.

Supreme Olajuwon

03-06-2012, 05:51 PM

I have no idea whether you're being sarcastic or not.

Frank Drebin

03-06-2012, 05:56 PM

Well, why do you think Cubs fans are classless?

Supreme Olajuwon

03-06-2012, 05:56 PM

Because I've met them.

Frank Drebin

03-06-2012, 06:22 PM

Very glib. You didnt answer my question though. Ive been to Great American before so I guess I could simply say that all Reds fans think they are smarter than they actually are.

Ill tell you this though. There are stark differences between some of the people who go to Wrigley Field, and actual Cubs fans. If some dumbass in a Sosa or Prior jersey who couldnt tell you who started yesterdays game talked shit to you at some point, it happens everywhere. Sorry you got made fun of.

In Dusty we trusty.

Supreme Olajuwon

03-06-2012, 06:31 PM

lol made fun of. no.

and yes, I realize not every Cubs fan is a total douche. but a lot are. more than most teams.

I'm sorry if my observations and opinions hurt your feelings.

Frank Drebin

03-06-2012, 06:43 PM

meh. Cubs fans get crapped on alot, and dont have winning baseball to rest thier laurels on. Some of the doucheness seen at Wrigley comes out of frustration. Now that the team is going to suck balls for at least 2 years, the quality of fans attending games will be better.

RoXer

03-06-2012, 09:29 PM

Your boys looked like little leaguers out there, Supreme. And then I realized they were for the most part and there were only like 2 starters playing. One guy lost it in the sun (was pretty funny because he yelled at the top of his lungs "I CAN'T SEE IT" and the entire stadium heard him), one guy tripped over himself going for a routine fly ball, the second basemen didn't cover first on a bunt, and then Ichiro was on 1st and someone else was on 2nd and a ball hit to right the coach stopped him at 3rd but Ichiro didn't see it and caused a logjam at 3rd where one of the Reds infielders threw it into the stands. Pretty sloppy play to be honest.

Ichiro was a stud though. Guy next to me was upset that he was leading off for the past 12 years or whatever and that this move couldn't have come soon enough. I mean yeah, he'll flourish in the 3 spot. He'll be good anywhere to be honest. But to say that the guy who has led the league in hits practically every year shouldn't have been leading off this entire time and it was the wrong move? I stopped listening to him after that.

Anyway, it's off to Goodyear Ballpark tomorrow and I've never been but the bar is low because there's nothing out there. I'm hoping it impresses me.

RoXer

03-06-2012, 09:31 PM

Second Basemen
Second Baseman
Secondbasemen
Secondbaseman
2nd Basemen
2nd Baseman
2B Men
2B Man

Supreme Olajuwon

03-06-2012, 11:38 PM

Yeah sorry you got such a shitty lineup. My fault.

Yo what did you think of Latos tho

RoXer

03-06-2012, 11:54 PM

Didn't even realize he was pitching until he got taken out tbh

RoXer

03-06-2012, 11:57 PM

Here's King Felix tho

RoXer

03-06-2012, 11:58 PM

Damn tpdub way to scale down my image to barely anything

DaveWadding

03-07-2012, 12:11 AM

Motherfucker, you should have told me you were going to be at Peoria today.

RoXer

03-07-2012, 12:20 AM

my b

RoXer

03-07-2012, 12:23 AM

Wadding will be live out of Peoria tomorrow for a full status report on Yu Darvish whereas I will be in Goodyear doing a fluff piece on the food and general atmosphere at the ballpark. Smelly Meatballman can have his segment with highlights from the day while inno does rumors.

That should fill a half hour

DaveWadding

03-07-2012, 12:52 AM

not going to make it out tomorrow. damn.

Evil Vito

03-07-2012, 02:13 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Definitely wanna get to ST one of these years. Mets have been trying to get another team into the Port St. Lucie complex, much like how the Marlins and Cardinals share a facility in Jupiter and how other teams split complexes in Arizona. Having another team allows for easier game/workout flexibility plus it's cost effective.

As it is, 3 of the 4 closest teams are division rivals. Marlins (and Cardinals) are like 45 minutes away, Nationals and Braves are about 90 minutes away. After that the next closest team is the Astros like 2 hours away. The Dodgers heading to Arizona and the Orioles leaving for the west coast of Florida fucked things up big time. 4 of the 5 NL East teams play each other pretty much all spring. They'll make a few road trips to the west coast for games, but it causes travel issues. Mets drove like 4 hours to play the Twins last year only for the game to get rained out. :o

Mets are contractually obligated to stay in Port St. Lucie through like 2024 or something...but it gets voided if there are 4 or less teams on the east coast of Florida. Can't be too far off from everybody relocating to the west coast.</font>

RoXer

03-07-2012, 04:05 PM

Supreme, this place is lke 15% full.

RoXer

03-07-2012, 04:43 PM

This is honestly one of the quietest ganes I've ever been to. Could probably take a nap. I just might.

RoXer

03-08-2012, 12:35 PM

Goodyear Ballpark is nice. It's hard to describe, it's large but it feels compact at the same time. Like most of the area went to seating which is fine but you think it would make the concourse areas feels small but they don't. The whole place feels smaller than it actually is but not in a bad way. There were a lot of seats in the shade which is nice and some of them were even cushioned too. The crowd was mostly old, retired, senior Ohionians but they were knowledgeable about their team mostly. The rest were probably 20-30 somethings wearing Reds crap and pale skin so it's safe to assume they were from out of town. I was sitting next to these two cute girls who were Reds fans but had no interest in me or my friend. Actually our whole section was pretty empty except for those girls and two girls behind us. Nothing special about the food or the beer selection. And I forgot to go into the team shop. Actually, I don't think I saw it.

But yeah, it's nice. Dunno where I'd rank it but probably top 5. You should come out next year or something, Supreme. Seems like a lot of Ohionians do

RoXer

03-08-2012, 12:39 PM

Bottom of the 1st inning and then a picture of Scotty Rolen's butt just for Supreme

RoXer

03-08-2012, 12:49 PM

"ATT: 1,643"... seems high.

And just to prove how there is nothing out there, here's a google maps of the nearby area:

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Emperor Smeat

03-08-2012, 05:48 PM

People are upset at Papelbon semi-dig against Red Sox fans when he said Philly fans are smarter than Boston fans due to them being in the NL.

It wasn't even a real dig considering he admitted Red Sox fans show a lot of passion towards the team due to it being a "way of life" while he did what every new player does on a team and tries to get the new fanbase to embrace him.

He did make one big mistake in hinting Phillies fans won't trash him if he struggles like he did at times with the Sox.

Hardkore Kidd J

03-08-2012, 06:37 PM

Does not look good for D-Rob at this moment he needs more testing after he sprained his foot falling down a flight of stairs moving things in his home.

weather vane

03-08-2012, 07:09 PM

To me, Papelbon telling Philly fans we’re more hysterical than them is like your ex telling her current boyfriend how wild you were in the sack and that your johnson was too big. What can we say? Some can handle how hard we give it and some can’t.

Viva La Stool!

Droford

03-10-2012, 08:54 PM

I had this crazy idea that someone who wanted to pile up steals could steal 2nd and then steal 1st again from 2nd and then steal 2nd again..but apparently there are rules against that, not to mention it being pretty stupid. My thought was that the catcher wouldnt throw back to first if the runner is going back a base.

Droford

03-12-2012, 06:12 PM

Emperor Smeat

03-12-2012, 06:35 PM

:lol: how smooth that went and Bobby V waving goodbye to Ozzie.

He gets angry, yells a bit, then walks right back to the dugout and into the tunnel.

RoXer

03-12-2012, 10:42 PM

Wadding, have you been to Camelback Ranch yet? Place is fucking nice.

Gunna make a big long post soon and rate them all. Should I put it here or in the 100,000 replies thread?

RoXer

03-12-2012, 10:43 PM

I need Camelback, Goodyear, Diablo, and Talking Stick.

No you have not.

DaveWadding

03-12-2012, 11:11 PM

right. but put the thread here.

Evil Vito

03-14-2012, 05:33 PM

<font color=goldenrod>lol @ the announcers during this Mets/Tigers game on ESPN. I've never heard two broadcasters sound more disinterested in a game. They started bitching when the pace of the game slowed down, and were pretty much openly rooting for the Tigers to win it in the bottom of the 9th rather than going to extras.</font>

Frank Drebin

03-15-2012, 12:19 AM

So I guess we aren't getting expanded replay this year which blows, imo.

On the one hand we have extra wild card/expanded playoffs that really only makes sense logistically when implemented in conjunction with a re-designed regular season schedule to allow for the extra time needed (read: 2013). Instead this new plan gets thrown together in haste with gaping holes of logic everywhere and shoved down the throats of its teams, players, and fans for the simple reason of more money.

And on the other hand, we have expanded replay who’s time has clearly come and when implemented correctly, can only add to the integrity of the game, not to mention that the basic building blocks are already in place with existing replay capabilities. Instead this new plan gets put off for yet another year because the parties involved “…weren’t able to come up with an acceptable set of agreements”.

There you go, folks. This is Bud Selig’s legacy –“Money beats integrity”.

Evil Vito

03-16-2012, 11:59 AM

<font color=goldenrod>With Tim "Hulk Hogan" Byrdak to start the season on the DL, the Mets will need a lefty specialist in the pen to start the year. Daniel Herrera is not viewed as a candidate, because the Mets don't think he's good enough to be a lefty specialist and they think his screwball is more effective against righties.

BA against lefties: .215
BA against righties: .364

Such brilliant baseball minds at the helm.</font>

Evil Vito

03-16-2012, 12:00 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Tbh I really just want him to make the team so that 5'6" Herrera and 6'11" Jon Rauch can keep channeling Muggsy Bogues and Manute Bol. :shifty:

Pretty sure Garrett Olson is going to get the spot instead.</font>

Gertner

03-16-2012, 12:05 PM

Jays young pitching is looking pretty sweet. I really hope Dustin McGowan does well this year. Poor guy has been through a lot.

ClockShot

03-16-2012, 12:17 PM

Phillies release Dontrelle Willis after he signed a 1-year, $1 mil. deal in december.

Splaya

03-16-2012, 02:03 PM

Andy Pettitte returns to the Yankees, signing a minor league deal to get himself back into shape....

Your thoughts Yankee fans?

Innovator

03-16-2012, 02:07 PM

Good God that's Pettite's music!

ClockShot

03-16-2012, 03:43 PM

OH MY GOD! *screams like a girl*

I could cry right now. Hope he makes the team. It's only a minor league gig right now. :'(

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Hardkore Kidd J

03-16-2012, 09:33 PM

He will make the team probably. This is the way I see it most likely

Rotation:

CC

Pineda

Andy

Kuroda

Nova/Hughes

One if not both of the guys I mentioned in the fifth spot may be traded for someone maybe a Right Fielder. This is Swisher's last year. So investing in a Right Fielder instead of paying Swish top dollar for him in the FA Market might be a good idea.

Frank Drebin

03-16-2012, 11:56 PM

Hardkore Kidd J

03-17-2012, 04:40 AM

Nah. Dude hasn’t pitched since 2010 and hes joining camp late. Late April arrival at the earliest.
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Dont know what you want a right fielder for. You should be worried about winning another championship, not Swisher walking after this year. Nova and Hughes still have options, so they can get sent down if needed so its not like a deal is necessary. If you really wanted to I guess you could, but with Freddy Garcia already hurting and Pineda looking fat with a drop in velocity its probably a bad idea.

I don't think I am going to worry about Pineda dropping Velocity until the actual season. I think I remember an article saying he would work his way up to pitching at his Velocity. Remember, it is still Spring Training, so I am not really willing to put him as a Overweight bust all ready. Now, I realize that this trade is a bad idea right now. I was just talking about maybe at the Trade deadline. By that point, Pettitte will most likely be in our rotation. And by that point we will probably know what Pineda, Kuroda, Nova, and Hughes can offer us.

But, I do agree that Pineda with a drop of Velocity is pretty bad, let's just wait until the season begins and see if that Velocity may have changed.

Droford

03-17-2012, 10:25 PM

http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/3/17/17/enhanced-buzz-wide-7507-1332019803-14.jpg

Rockies coach Jerry Weinstein, 68, puts on a skit with rookie players before a game in Scottsdale on March 12.

Triple Naitch

03-19-2012, 02:29 PM

Damn, Miguel Cabrera just took a liner to his fucking eye.

Phillies have shut down Chase Utley after his knees reached a plateau of recovery. He might be done for good.

Supreme Olajuwon

03-19-2012, 03:36 PM

Emperor Smeat

03-19-2012, 04:10 PM

Mets and their owner required to pay out $162 million as part of the settlement in the Madoff lawsuit case. Wilpon along with the other main co-owner will only pay out $29 million with the team and others covering the rest.

They were able to reduce the original lawsuit by about $200 million from its $386 million estimate.

Mets still waiting for the results of their own lawsuit against Madoff with the goal being $178 million with the majority to be used to pay out the lawsuit that was against them and gain a little extra in cash.

RoXer

03-19-2012, 11:05 PM

RoXer Rates the Cactus League Ballparks!

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3800682&postcount=69023

Evil Vito

03-20-2012, 05:21 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Joakim Soria is getting Tommy John Surgery.</font>

Droford

03-20-2012, 10:04 PM

Phillies release Dontrelle Willis after he signed a 1-year, $1 mil. deal in december.

An now hes an Oriole minor leaguer!

i think he just needs to look himself in the mirror and face the truth..the train has pulled into its last station..

ClockShot

03-21-2012, 12:14 PM

Nats announce Steve Strasburg is gonna start on opening day.

I know he missed 99% of last season, but is he really ready to go?

Triple Naitch

03-21-2012, 04:50 PM

He pitched all of September. He should be 100p by now.

Droford

03-21-2012, 06:49 PM

Boomer

03-22-2012, 11:32 AM

Chipper retiring at the end of the year. Happy to have had a chance to see him play since his minor league days in Macon. Hope he stays healthy this year; the Braves need him badly.

Evil Vito

03-22-2012, 12:20 PM

Chipper retiring at the end of the year.

<font color=goldenrod>Thank. fucking. god.

Signed,
Every Mets fan</font>

Buzzkill

03-22-2012, 01:52 PM

Just popped in to say that I am fucking blown away that chipper jones is still playing. Literally been playing since I was like 9 years old. Had no idea until I saw that headline (I don't watch baseball, by the way)

weather vane

03-22-2012, 03:42 PM

fucking love Chipper

Droford

03-22-2012, 04:00 PM

Mark Reynolds with his 1st (well, 2nd if you count the error hes made in ST) E-5 of the Season:

Mark Reynolds may have thought he was in a joking environment during an interview with 105.7 the Fan Tuesday, but things could get pretty serious about the Orioles third baseman.
Hosts Jeremy Conn and Scott Garceau were kidding him about mail from obsessed fans when he responded: "When I first get to spring, there may be 10 or 15 there, but then as it goes on, it really piles up. You've got so much going on during the day, the last thing you want to do is open a bunch of fan mail. I try to get those as much as I can."

lol, I bet half of the "fan mail" is actually hate mail. There can't be that many people that are fans of a .220 hitter that strikes out 200 times and made 31 errors..

ClockShot

03-23-2012, 12:18 PM

Joba had some sort of off-field freak accident that caused an open dislocation of his right ankle. He was jumping on a trampoline with this son.

He's out for a while.

Wonderful. :roll:

Innovator

03-23-2012, 12:36 PM

Bobby Jenks arrested for a DUI. No beer in the clubhouse seems to be working.

Hanso Amore

03-23-2012, 12:54 PM

Mark Reynolds with his 1st (well, 2nd if you count the error hes made in ST) E-5 of the Season:

lol, I bet half of the "fan mail" is actually hate mail. There can't be that many people that are fans of a .220 hitter that strikes out 200 times and made 31 errors..

I dont get this story. What is the point? How does he "think he was in a joking atmosphere?

You suck at getting your thoughts and ideas across.

Innovator

03-23-2012, 01:02 PM

It might be time to cut the loss with Joba and move on.

Dragon

03-23-2012, 06:28 PM

Damn, apparently Joba lost a life-threatening amount of blood with the injury. Can't imagine he'll be seen any time soon. I think next year (2013) is his last year where he's arbitration eligible so it wouldn't surprise me if he's done with the Yankees.

McLegend

03-23-2012, 06:59 PM

Lol Joba

Triple Naitch

03-23-2012, 08:33 PM

Shouldn't Joba be the one getting a DUI and Bobby Jenks the one getting injured doing something terrible?

ClockShot

03-23-2012, 09:25 PM

I knew that comparison was coming sooner or later.

Evil Vito

03-24-2012, 03:19 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Ryan Madson becomes the second closer in a week to go down. Tommy John Surgery. Out for the year.

Poor guy had one of the worst off-seasons ever. Went from being on the brink of a long-term deal to TJS, taking a big deal off the table for next year already.</font>

Gertner

03-25-2012, 11:43 AM

lol poor guy making 8.5 millon to do nothing

Supreme Olajuwon

03-26-2012, 12:07 AM

http://i.imgur.com/vBBNK.jpg

Triple Naitch

03-26-2012, 01:00 AM

Damn, was gonna post that.

Evil Vito

03-26-2012, 08:12 AM

lol poor guy making 8.5 millon to do nothing

<font color=goldenrod>It might seem like a sweet deal now, but this is coming off of his first year as a closer. Might have been his one and only chance to properly cash in on it. Some closers tend to come out of nowhere - so who knows, maybe everybody will have their closing situation locked up by the time Madson is actually ready to pitch again. Plus you'll have set-up guys like K-Rod, Mike Adams, etc. hitting the market so competition will always be stiff.</font>

Evil Vito

03-26-2012, 08:13 AM

http://i.imgur.com/vBBNK.jpg

<font color=goldenrod>Amazing. The Mets broadcasters had no idea who he was - love that not even the Cards guys did either.</font>

Innovator

03-26-2012, 12:59 PM

Skippord

03-26-2012, 06:45 PM

that really looks like it should be in an arcade, and I love it

Supreme Olajuwon

03-26-2012, 06:47 PM

I love the little rainbow glare that pops up when the thing is finished. It's like one big gay ta da!

RoXer

03-26-2012, 07:07 PM

Video seems bleak all by itself

ClockShot

03-26-2012, 09:39 PM

Magglio Ordonez might be hanging up the spikes in a matter of days.

Emperor Smeat

03-26-2012, 10:12 PM

:| already another rift between Valentine and the players.

Valentine suggested Daniel Bard needs another pitch to be great with instead of just relying on the fastball while Bard keeps refusing any help from Valentine.

The issue revolves around if Bard is to be a starter, he needs more than just a fastball to be good and having a second quality pitch could help him struggle less if he stays as a reliever. Bard seems to be doing the same Papelbon did and refusing to improve his pitch choices and rely on just the fastball.

Triple Naitch

03-27-2012, 06:59 PM

Damn, kinda wanna read R.A. Dickey's book when it comes out.

Supreme Olajuwon

03-27-2012, 11:15 PM

Now Mat Latos hurt himself. Mother fucker.

Supreme Olajuwon

03-27-2012, 11:16 PM

Probably Dusty's fault.

Emperor Smeat

03-27-2012, 11:53 PM

So much for Jose Iglesias finally getting his spot as starting SS for the Red Sox since he got demoted to Pawtucket to start the season and instead Alvies gets the spot.

Nick Punto ended up getting the backup spot.

Frank Drebin

03-28-2012, 12:14 AM

It might seem like a sweet deal now, but this is coming off of his first year as a closer. Might have been his one and only chance to properly cash in on it. Some closers tend to come out of nowhere - so who knows, maybe everybody will have their closing situation locked up by the time Madson is actually ready to pitch again. Plus you'll have set-up guys like K-Rod, Mike Adams, etc. hitting the market so competition will always be stiff.

Hes just going to have to go on an incentive laden deal for one or two years. Billy Wagner got hurt in 2008 with the Mets, pitched 1/3 of the 2009 season for Boston, and signed with the Braves for closer money in 2010 and was a stud for them. Its a long road, but it can be done much easier since hes a reliever.

Probably Dusty's fault.
Nah....karma for bad mouthing Cubs fans a few pages back :naughty:

Skippord

03-28-2012, 02:05 AM

lol Magic Johnson's group buying the Dodgers for 2 billion dollars

Frank McCourt is the greatest businessman who ever lived.

DaveWadding

03-28-2012, 02:21 AM

MLB.TV for Xbox is out finally. Going to be the sex during the season.

Emperor Smeat

03-28-2012, 03:03 AM

lol Magic Johnson's group buying the Dodgers for 2 billion dollars

Frank McCourt is the greatest businessman who ever lived.

Yeah amazing how he still kept partial control of the Dodgers property (parking lot) which means he gets paid every year on top of the $2 billion he gets initially.

Shatters the record for selling a team and still kept some control in the end.

Droford

03-28-2012, 08:21 AM

Dustin Ackley hits the first HR of the season, 1-1 in the 5th

just in case you were gonna watch the A's Mariners game on tape delay later on

ClockShot

03-28-2012, 01:44 PM

Yankees sign Jack Cust to a minor league gig after the Astros cut him loose yesterday.

A bit of a safety net since Raul Ibanez ain't doing what he was brought in to do during spring training.

Gertner

03-28-2012, 05:27 PM

Omar Vizquel makes the Jays.

SlickyTrickyDamon

03-29-2012, 08:34 AM

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17gx8r08cvbz3jpg/xlarge.jpg

ROFL

serious business

I could see Os scouts going undercover as scouts for the Astros or something..with big cowboy hats and fake texan accents..

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/46775303@N02/6880351108/" title="xlarge by rdamon1982, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7106/6880351108_252b578ac2.jpg" width="500" height="281" alt="xlarge"></a>

They predict the future!

Droford

03-29-2012, 05:35 PM

shoulda photoshopped "players" over scouts.

Mike Mussina is going into the Os Hall of Fame. Should be an interesting reaction for the traitor, I personally would rather see him rot in hell first, but I understand most people dont share the same feelings. At least he never won a WS with the Yankees.

Dragon

03-29-2012, 05:41 PM

So I take it you aren't a big Mussina fan?

Dragon

03-29-2012, 05:57 PM

I do wish Mussina would have stuck around another year and got a ring though.

Gertner

03-29-2012, 09:24 PM

Love my Jays blowing their load in the pre-season. 20-4 record.

Droford

03-29-2012, 11:22 PM

You dont think they can win 135 games this season? lol

03-30-2012, 07:14 AM

Jeff Samardzija is in the rotation
Ian Stewart and his sub .200 average is at Third base
Brian Lahair at First base
David Dejesus is batting lead-off
And Alfonso is still watering the left field with dropped fly balls

I'm gunna go ahead and make the 2012-2013 offseason thread.

See you next season gang!

Skippord

03-30-2012, 07:20 AM

yeah you Cubs fans can enjoy Ian Stewart

was my favorite player for awhile, but he is infuriating

Triple Naitch

03-30-2012, 08:49 AM

Yo Skip, I picked up Jordan Pacheco for my fantasy squad. Is he gonna hold down 3B for the first couple of months?

Damian Rey

03-30-2012, 01:49 PM

Just read that the new Fox Sports San Diego channel is unlikely to be picked up by my cable provider, Ti Time Warner Cable. God damnit. Now I have to hassle through uninstalling TWC and installing Direct TV.

Skippord

03-30-2012, 02:07 PM

Yo Skip, I picked up Jordan Pacheco for my fantasy squad. Is he gonna hold down 3B for the first couple of months?
he'll probably split time with Chris Nelson for the first few months while catching and filling in at 1st base every so often. I would imagine he'll get a lot of at bats.

Emperor Smeat

03-30-2012, 08:15 PM

Red Sox could be reopening the Theo compensation issue with the Cubs due to Chris Carpenter needing elbow surgery and being out for the early part of this season.

Its not really the team itself but Lucchino who might want a new swap done even though the Cubs won't agree and both teams doctors cleared Carpenter's physical.

Evil Vito

03-31-2012, 12:20 PM

<font color=goldenrod>If both team's cleared the physical, it's a dead issue. Tough shit Sox.</font>

Evil Vito

03-31-2012, 12:24 PM

<font color=goldenrod>49 year old Jamie Moyer has made the Rockies rotation. Simply amazing. Gonna root so hard for him to do well enough that he can get into a game at 50 next year.</font>

Droford

03-31-2012, 12:41 PM

LOL..wanna put Moyer into some perspective..

Moyer started pitching for the Orioles in 1993, the 2nd year that Oriole Park at Camden Yards was open.

Camden Yards is now 20 years old.

All of this makes me feel ridiculously old.

Evil Vito

03-31-2012, 12:47 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Moyer beat out Tyler Chatwood for a rotation spot. Moyer had completed his 4th big league season by the time Chatwood was born.</font>

Droford

03-31-2012, 12:56 PM

I dont think Tyler Chatwood can be feeling too good about himself right now, being beat out by a guy thats 49 years old.

Droford

03-31-2012, 12:59 PM

49 things to know about Jamie Moyer (http://espn.go.com/mlb/spring2012/story/_/id/7727972/forty-nine-things-know-jamie-moyer)
5 Moyer missed last season while rehabbing from Tommy John surgery, the only summer he hasn't played baseball at some level (including Little League) in 40 years. "The coolest thing was I was able to be at home and cook on the grill and be a part of our family home life a little more,'' he said. "I greatly enjoyed that and at some point I look forward to doing that on a full-time basis. But not now.''
6 Tommy John was still a major league pitcher, and not just a surgical procedure, when Moyer started in the big leagues.
42If pitching doesn't work anymore, perhaps Moyer can come back as a hitter. He has 34 walks in 485 career plate appearances, a better walk rate than Robinson Cano (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/6204/robinson-cano) or Adrian Beltre (http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/3878/adrian-beltre) had last year.
43 Or maybe not. Moyer has never hit a home run. He has allowed a record 511, however.

lol

Droford

03-31-2012, 01:10 PM

Pineda is likely going to the DL for the Yankees with a sore shoulder. That trade could end up being terrible for the Yankees.

DAMN iNATOR

03-31-2012, 02:45 PM

So, 20 years ago Magic goes out and gets HIV, and now he buys part ownership in the L.A. Dodgers? Yeah, neither of those were terrible decisions...:roll:

Evil Vito

03-31-2012, 03:51 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Speaking of old guys making it back to the Major Leagues, 41 year old Miguel Batista was informed that he had made the Mets bullpen. I'm actually okay with that - he was good in his brief stint with the team last year. If he sucks, they'll have Pedro Beato and other guys to turn to.

Mike Baxter won the spot for the lefty outfielder off the bench, beating out Adam Loewen. I definitely saw Loewen getting the spot heading into camp, but Baxter definitely earned it. Plus he's a hometown kid and grew up a Mets fan so I can't help but want to root for him.

Sounds like the Mets roster is just about set. The only guys still fighting for a spot are Vinny Rottino and Daniel Herrera, but their status is entirely dependent on whether or not Andres Torres and Tim Byrdak respectively have to start on the DL.</font>

Emperor Smeat

03-31-2012, 04:35 PM

<font color=goldenrod>If both team's cleared the physical, it's a dead issue. Tough shit Sox.</font>

Yeah its just another case of Lucchino trying to cause a potential problem which he's done a lot of that ever since arriving as part of the ownership group. In terms of management, a lot more people hate him than they ever did with Theo, Francona, or the actual owner Henry.

ClockShot

03-31-2012, 05:45 PM

Pineda is likely going to the DL for the Yankees with a sore shoulder. That trade could end up being terrible for the Yankees.

He'll only be out 10-15 days. I wouldn't worry.

Yankees 2012 starting rotation:

CC Sabathia
Hiroki Kuroda
Phil Hughes
Ivan Nova
Freddy Garcia

Opening day can't come soon enough.

Evil Vito

03-31-2012, 06:03 PM

He'll only be out 10-15 days. I wouldn't worry.

<font color=goldenrod>Tell that to the fans on the Yankees message board. Just some insane overreactions over there. The trade has already been deemed a failure by most and that "even if Pineda were healthy, he deserves to go to AAA". They're also calling for Cashman's head. They're coming across as spoiled brats.</font>

ClockShot

03-31-2012, 06:07 PM

Triple Naitch

03-31-2012, 06:16 PM

Isn't Pineda throwing like -5 mph than he usually does?

Droford

03-31-2012, 06:29 PM

He'll only be out 10-15 days. I wouldn't worry.

Yankees 2012 starting rotation:

CC Sabathia
Hiroki Kuroda
Phil Hughes
Ivan Nova
Freddy Garcia

Opening day can't come soon enough.

Kuroda's gonna get shelled in the AL East...

I cant say too much about pitching though. The Os rotation is a mess..
Jake Arrieta
Wei-Yin Chen
Tommy Hunter
Jason Hammel
Brian Matusz/Tsuyoshi Wada

There isn't a solid #2 in that group, barely a bunch of 3-5's.

Dragon

03-31-2012, 06:33 PM

I don't see why Kuroda would get shelled in the AL East. Its not like he's a junk baller. He's got a good fastball. Obviously he won't be putting up a low 3 ERA but I think he'll be solid.

Droford

03-31-2012, 06:33 PM

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/406/316/josediaz_display_image.jpg?1285169802

Jose "Jumbo" Diaz, hes with the Pirates now (who the Os played a ST game today) he was with the Os. He's a pitcher..and he weighed 320 lbs..

Dragon

03-31-2012, 06:35 PM

I ain't concerned. When we aquired Pineda and Andy came back, everyone was saying "OH MY GOD, WE GOT EXCESS PITCHERS! WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH STEADY FREDDY? LET'S TRADE ONE AND GET A BAT!"

Well, good thing we didn't because I would have been in panic mode right now.

My major concern is if Ibanez wakes the fuck up and starts mashing the damn ball.

I don't even think Ibanez is capable of mashing the ball right now, even at his top form. He just doesn't have the bat speed anymore.

Still don't see what Cashman saw in Ibanez that he thought he'd be the best option at DH.

Droford

03-31-2012, 06:36 PM

I don't see why Kuroda would get shelled in the AL East. Its not like he's a junk baller. He's got a good fastball. Obviously he won't be putting up a low 3 ERA but I think he'll be solid.

He's lucky with the ground balls playing out in the NL west vs weak offensive teams. That 49% ground ball rate will come down.

road doggy dogg

04-01-2012, 03:58 PM

If MLB 12 is anything to go by, Cabrera is gonna get like 180 RBIs this year. That sounds like a totally reasonable estimate. Go Tigers!

But really... pretty pumped for opening day.
crossrine

Splaya

04-01-2012, 04:23 PM

You and me both Irving

ClockShot

04-01-2012, 06:25 PM

Yankees played in the Marlins new stadium today. Top view, place looks like it's filled with water. Deep blue colored seat cushions, green barriers around the field. And that ugly home run statue thingy out in centerfield. Looks like it's straight out of little mermaid.

Don't like it.

Evil Vito

04-02-2012, 11:04 AM

Meta are close to locking up Jon Niese to a 5 year deal with options for 2017 and 2018.

Supreme Olajuwon

04-02-2012, 12:36 PM

That's so Meta

Evil Vito

04-02-2012, 12:56 PM

Welp, that's what I get for quickly typing on a smartphone. :o

Supreme Olajuwon

04-02-2012, 02:04 PM

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

Reds, Joey Votto Nearing Extension (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/04/reds-to-extend-joey-votto.html)

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [April 2, 2012 at 11:40am CST]
Prince Fielder (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/fieldpr01.shtml?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker&utm_campaign=Linker) and Albert Pujols (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/pujolal01.shtml?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker&utm_campaign=Linker) won't be the only first basemen to cash in with historic contracts this offseason. Joey Votto (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/vottojo01.shtml?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker&utm_campaign=Linker) and the Reds are nearing an extension that will keep the first baseman in Cincinnati for a long time, MLBTR's Tim Dierkes and Ben Nicholson-Smith have learned. Dan Lozano of Icon Sports Group represents Votto.
Terms of the deal are not known, but it wouldn't be surprising if the total contract value surpasses $200MM. Votto will earn a total of $26.5MM through 2013 on the extension he signed last winter. I suggested (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/01/extension-candidate-joey-votto.html) in January that an additional $161MM could be enough to keep Votto in place long-term. Though not directly related, the Dodgers' sale price of $2.15 billion can't have hurt Votto's leverage.
Votto, the 2010 NL MVP, has evolved into one of the game's elite players since debuting in 2007. He followed up his MVP season with a .309/.416/.531 line, 29 homers and 40 doubles. The 28-year-old has been a seven win player each of the past two seasons, according to FanGraphs' version of wins above replacement.
Just four deals in MLB history have surpassed the $200MM mark. Prince Fielder (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/fieldpr01.shtml?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker&utm_campaign=Linker), Alex Rodriguez (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/rodrial01.shtml?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker&utm_campaign=Linker) (twice) and fellow Lozano client Albert Pujols (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/pujolal01.shtml?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker&utm_campaign=Linker) make up the select group (http://transactions.mlbtraderumors.com/widget/transactions-tracker&link=true&widget=true&amount=200&amount_type=4&value_verbiage=1&lang=41).