View Full Version : Could a Hogan match draw big for WWE at this point?
Is Hogan just too old/out of it to draw for WWE anymore? Ten years ago, we had Hogan vs Rock, which was arguably one of the biggest matches in WrestleMania history.
Could Cena vs. Hogan draw? Maybe Hogan vs Austin? Are we too far removed from Hogan's height in popularity that his fans just wouldn't return at this point?
This isn't a question of whether they SHOULD do a match like this, but only whether there's still potential for a drawing match like Rock vs Hogan assuming Hogan could go enough to put on the match he'd need to.
Jordan
03-25-2012, 09:32 AM
I'd say there is potential, especially if they were able to do Austin vs Hogan. That would bring some old fans out of the woodworks (where old fans go).
Steveviscious89
03-25-2012, 09:32 AM
Well....if you take away the age and the fact that he can't really do much anymore in the ring....I think Hogan the character is a draw no matter what period of time you're in. The problem I think about it is that most young fans today were born after or during his runs in the 90's. So....yeah it would draw, but maybe not as much as it would have ten years ago.
Yes. He can come out in a wheelchair and still draw in the WWE.
erickman
03-25-2012, 09:36 AM
maby as a tag team, like team hogan vs team piper, that would be good for wrestllmania 30. have young wrestlers in 90% of the match then hogan and piper would entertain the crowd for a little.
Yeah man for sure, I mean look how hyped everyone got over Sting vs Taker last yr and they arent in the same league as Hogan/Austin/Cena.
Jordan
03-25-2012, 09:41 AM
After seeing Sting in TNA the past year, I no longer want him in WWE, ever.
whiteyford
03-25-2012, 09:57 AM
Depends how they marketed it IMO, I dont think he was really a draw in his last run as Mr America or whatever but as a one off 'Mania match,depending on his opponent, it could draw, as long as they dont let him anywhere near a match until that point because hes way too old and broken it would kill off any interest.
Mike the Metal Ed
03-25-2012, 10:09 AM
Hogan is still probably the biggest name in the history of professional wrestling. The match would be horrible, but it'd draw.
FourFifty
03-25-2012, 10:15 AM
It's not his age, or his charisma... it's his ability. He simply does not have the work rate to be a big draw. His name will put a few asses in seats, sell a few shirts, etc, however WWE could do even more with Austin, Bret Hart, Brock Lesnar, or even Matt Striker.
Hogan can still start a small fire, but his light is fading away. All that's left is the char that was in his wake as a reminder of who he was.
Anybody Thrilla
03-25-2012, 10:27 AM
Matt Striker.
Explain this, please.
Gerard
03-25-2012, 10:28 AM
They said on that legends roundtable a while back that "if used sparingly Hogan could still draw very well" (or words to that effect).
That being said i think he's far too immobile these days for any real big spotlight matches. Don't even think he can do the legdrop anymore due to his ongoing back issues.
Kane Knight
03-25-2012, 10:32 AM
Hogan's last couple runs didn't really draw, so I'd say the odds are pretty low.
God, I miss the pragmatism of Rob Harvey.
erickman
03-25-2012, 11:18 AM
They said on that legends roundtable a while back that "if used sparingly Hogan could still draw very well" (or words to that effect).
That being said i think he's far too immobile these days for any real big spotlight matches. Don't even think he can do the legdrop anymore due to his ongoing back issues.
yeah anything he does would have to be a tag match
Rammsteinmad
03-25-2012, 11:26 AM
I don't think it would be any bigger of a draw for Wrestlemania than the PPV is for itself anyway. Hogan is just too far past it now. What made Rock/Hogan so great was seeing Hogan (and the nWo for that matter) in the WWE again. Nobody ever thought it'd happen, and after the WCW buyout and the Invasion, this is something that we SHOULD have seen in 2001. Since then however, Hogan has still been active, having short runs in WWE and hogging the spotlight in TNA. I just don't think 'people' ie. non-wrestling fans, really give a shit.
If Hogan came back for a match at Wrestlemania 30 against John Cena (just as an example), I don't think it'd make for any extra buys. The PPV will sell as it does based on the fact that it's Wrestefuckingmania, but I don't think 'old fans' would 'return' just to see Hogan/Cena.
The same could be said for Austin/Cena. Back in Austin's day, EVERYONE I knew watched wrestling. I seriously doubt any of my friends would order a PPV because Austin's a part of it. In fact, I seriously doubt any of them even give a shit about Austin nowadays anyway, and any memories they have of watching wrestling back in the day is nothing more than "yeah, I use to watch Wrestling. Warzone was a fun game".
Gertner
03-25-2012, 11:31 AM
Yes it would x1000.
Wolfpack423
03-25-2012, 12:22 PM
Yeah man for sure, I mean look how hyped everyone got over Sting vs Taker last yr and they arent in the same league as Hogan/Austin/Cena.
Sting vs. Taker would have been great. Sting is my all time favorite. I like all three of Hogan, Austin, and Cena as well. Not a big Taker fan but he has had some great matches over his career.
XCaliber
03-25-2012, 12:23 PM
Of course he would it would all depend in what capacity he would be used though I don't think he could pull of 1 one on 1 main event against a younger dude.
Gerard
03-25-2012, 12:31 PM
They wanted to do Hogan vs Big Show a while back at one of the Wrestlemania's (23 i think for obvious reasons) but the payoff wasn't enough for Hogan to be interested.
:roll:
Still wouldnt mind seeing that as a Wrestlemania match as a nod to the past.
dronepool
03-25-2012, 12:57 PM
With his name, I think he can. Hogan vs CM Punk. Vitamins and steroids vs straight edge.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-25-2012, 01:01 PM
WWE tv heals all wounds for Hogan. He comes back and real American blares and all will be forgotten and forgiven. Though he probably couldn't wrestle again in real booked WWE match.
Swiss Ultimate
03-25-2012, 01:57 PM
Yes. He can come out in a wheelchair and still draw in the WWE.
I think he would have to. Can't even drop a fucking leg.
yeah. Most casual WWE fans don't realize TNA (ft. Hulk Hogan) even exists. Hogan is still Hogan. You only have to see him turning face after the Sting match last year to see what kind of reaction (from a significantly smaller crowd) he can still elicit/that people still want to see him do his schtick.
Rollermacka
03-25-2012, 03:09 PM
I think he would have to. Can't even drop a fucking leg.
I think just based on that fact alone, he will never be in a match in the WWE again. Maybe a segment here or there, but no kinda of real storyline or match.
Side note,
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I actually liked this match, mostly for the nostalgia of seeing Hogan vs Sting "one more time" and Flair was a really nice touch in that match too. I really hope that Impact doesn't turn back into the Hogan/ Sting show... again. From what it's looking like though :-\
#1-norm-fan
03-25-2012, 03:10 PM
I bet Punk could pull a good match out of him...
any of the top guys could get something passable out of him, Hogan knows the shortcuts better than anybody ever
#1-norm-fan
03-25-2012, 03:14 PM
Hogan vs Khali. 25 years after the Andre match. Book it.
:shifty:
#1-norm-fan
03-25-2012, 03:15 PM
But in all seriousness, as I typed that I realized that I seriously wanna see Hulk Hogan vs The Great Khali.
screech
03-25-2012, 03:18 PM
I think it could because Hogan is pro wrestling even after all this time.
dingdongyo
03-25-2012, 03:36 PM
a hogan match would not draw me. that's all i'm sure of.
Gerard
03-25-2012, 04:31 PM
I think just based on that fact alone, he will never be in a match in the WWE again. Maybe a segment here or there, but no kinda of real storyline or match.
Side note,
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I actually liked this match, mostly for the nostalgia of seeing Hogan vs Sting "one more time" and Flair was a really nice touch in that match too. I really hope that Impact doesn't turn back into the Hogan/ Sting show... again. From what it's looking like though :-\
Between Hogan, Flair and Sting theres about 174 years of age...:eek:
We know Hogans still wrestling \ involved in it because of his whore ex-wife somehow being entitled to ridiculous sums of money after a life time of sitting on her arse mooching of her Husbands money. Flairs had at last count approximately 35 divorces to pay for and is up to his nose in debt, that and "living the gimmick" pissed away most of his money like a true idiot. Whats the story with Sting though? He penniless as well?
But in all seriousness, as I typed that I realized that I seriously wanna see Hulk Hogan vs The Great Khali.
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That's pretty much the extent of the match you'd get, honestly.
Emperor Smeat
03-25-2012, 04:57 PM
WWE could easily hype it into something huge but the match itself would probably be way too short to live up to the hype.
I don't think TNA has really benefited from having Hogan matches even though they've hyped them up pretty decently.
whiteyford
03-25-2012, 04:57 PM
Whats the story with Sting though? He penniless as well?
They pay him a reported $500k a year for limited dates a short drive from his home,that and i think he still enjoys it because i dont think hes short of a few bucks.
Vastardikai
03-25-2012, 05:02 PM
They pay him a reported $500k a year for limited dates a short drive from his home,that and i think he still enjoys it because i dont think hes short of a few bucks.
Real Estate Steve has no problem with money.
Between Hogan, Flair and Sting theres about 174 years of age...:eek:
We know Hogans still wrestling \ involved in it because of his whore ex-wife somehow being entitled to ridiculous sums of money after a life time of sitting on her arse mooching of her Husbands money. Flairs had at last count approximately 35 divorces to pay for and is up to his nose in debt, that and "living the gimmick" pissed away most of his money like a true idiot. Whats the story with Sting though? He penniless as well?
some guys actually...wait for it...wait for ittttt...enjoy performing in front of a live crowd/have a passion for what they do :eek: shocking I know given that it's obviously a guarantee that every single person over 40 is cynically still in the business because they need the money or have 35 divorces to pay for or are some kind of loser for not wanting to give it up
Gerard
03-25-2012, 05:18 PM
some guys actually...wait for it...wait for ittttt...enjoy performing in front of a live crowd/have a passion for what they do :eek: shocking I know given that it's obviously a guarantee that every single person over 40 is cynically still in the business because they need the money or have 35 divorces to pay for or are some kind of loser for not wanting to give it up
Its ok to "love to perform" but as time goes on theyre fighting a losing battle trying to perform as they once did. Unavoidable but thats life :(
who's losing the battle? fairly sure these guys know they aren't performing at the same level as in their prime
Gerard
03-25-2012, 05:22 PM
who's losing the battle? fairly sure these guys know they aren't performing at the same level as in their prime
Dunno about that, i recall an interview with undetaker where he said that he hoped someone would tell him if he was performing underpar in matches, and that was around wrestlemania 18 when he was discussing Hogan still wrestling at 47 (an age that undertaker said he didnt think he would still be in the ring at). Think it was on OTR.
yeah and Taker's last few big matches are arguably the best of his career
Gerard
03-25-2012, 05:24 PM
yeah and Taker's last few big matches are arguably the best of his career
Yeah with the right opponent. Not sure they would have been as good if it was against someone other than Michaels. Wasnt as big a fan of the triple h match.
of course with the right opponent, same thing has gone for his entire career. Not like he was pulling classics out of Yokozuna and Giant Gonzales "in his prime" was it
Gerard
03-25-2012, 05:30 PM
of course with the right opponent, same thing has gone for his entire career. Not like he was pulling classics out of Yokozuna and Giant Gonzales "in his prime" was it
Well for gonzales that was pretty much mission impossible :lol:
James Steele
03-25-2012, 07:18 PM
What didn't you like about the WrestleMania XXVII match?
Destor
03-25-2012, 08:03 PM
no, Hogan's ability to draw is long gone.
KayfabeMan
03-25-2012, 10:34 PM
Hogan would definitely draw - if the situation and the promotion for it were right.
So with Vince at the helm....nevermind it wouldn't work.
weather vane
03-25-2012, 10:44 PM
100p
Kane Knight
03-25-2012, 11:38 PM
Hogan vs Khali. 25 years after the Andre match. Book it.
:shifty:
Hogan would attempt a bodyslam, and every bone in his body shatters. However, as it's Hogan, Khali will be forced to drag that crippled carcass over him for the 1-2-3!
no, Hogan's ability to draw is long gone.
Thank you for being grounded.
KaosDarksol
03-26-2012, 06:55 AM
Let's hope that Vince never thinks hogan will draw again so we don't have to see him in the WWE ever again
Kane Knight
03-26-2012, 10:47 AM
Vince is probably the second most likely to think Hogan's a draw. Three guesses as to who the most likely is.
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stultiloquy
03-26-2012, 11:00 AM
If Hogan were to come back to WWE there's no doubt he would draw (initially), although once he got in the ring he would do nothing but disappoint.
I don't know if there's anyone he could be put in the ring with at this point and have a semi-solid match.
From what I've seen, he's so limited in the ring now that the only thing he can really do is bleed everywhere to try and have some semblance of action and spectacle, and that can be said for Flair as well.
It just seems to me that the only way a match with Hogan could be pulled off now is if you get someone to sell Hulk's offense in the hilariously over the top way HBK did.
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screech
03-26-2012, 12:31 PM
:lol: The big boot in that video was the best
RiX1024
03-26-2012, 03:37 PM
Defo, he'd still draw plus depends on his opponent.
Aaronp43
03-26-2012, 08:52 PM
NO NO NO
Pintint
03-26-2012, 10:19 PM
Yes, Hogan will still draw. The guys that remember Hogan will still want to watch (despite complaining and saying no) and the kids who never saw him will be curious to see who this "legend" is.
Rammsteinmad
03-27-2012, 08:32 AM
Hogan won't draw, and then the Miz will get the blame for it. :foc:
I would watch a Hogan match so I guess so
Rock Bottom
03-30-2012, 03:03 PM
Hogan vs. Cole would get some attention
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