HIT, MISS, or MAYBE [Archive]

Marc the Smark

05-07-2004, 12:05 AM

Give your opinion on each wrestling superstar who came from OVW. Say hit, miss, or maybe, or maybe leave any additional comments you might want to add.

Here's what I think:

Doug Basham = MISS
Danny Basham = MISS
Brock Lesnar = MISS
John Cena = HIT
Mark Henry = MISS
Mark Jindrak = HIT
Garrison Cade = MAYBE
Victoria = HIT
Jazz = HIT
Gail Kim = MAYBE
Randy Orton = HIT
Rodney Mack = MISS
Rico = HIT
Miss Jackie = MAYBE
Renee Dupree = HIT
Slyvain Grenier = HIT
Rob Conway = HIT
Batista - HIT
John Heindenreich = MISS
Matt Morgan = MISS
Orlando Jordan = MAYBE
Nidia = MISS
Charlie Haas = HIT
Shelton Benjamin = HIT

Loose Cannon

05-07-2004, 12:06 AM

you are like Ed Leslie, the man of 1000 gimmicks, but you are the man of 1000 topics.

Marc the Smark

05-07-2004, 12:06 AM

:rofl: Just tryin' to keep it fresh. Plus I'm not a barber.

OssMan

05-07-2004, 12:07 AM

Why are you r'ing ofl at an insult directed at you?

Marc the Smark

05-07-2004, 12:09 AM

Why are you r'ing ofl at an insult directed at you?

Because even though it's an insult it's actually quite true. So it's funny.

OssMan

05-07-2004, 12:09 AM

Doug Basham = MISS
Danny Basham = MISS
Brock Lesnar = hit
John Cena = hit
Mark Henry = MISS
Mark Jindrak = HIT
Garrison Cade = MAYBE
Victoria = HIT
Jazz = miss
Gail Kim = MAYBE
Randy Orton = HIT
Rodney Mack = MISS
Rico = miss
Miss Jackie = hit, there's only a few divas
Renee Dupree = maybe
Slyvain Grenier = maybe
Rob Conway = miss
Batista - maybe
John Heindenreich = who?
Matt Morgan = MISS
Orlando Jordan = miss :'(
Nidia = miss
Charlie Haas = maybe
Shelton Benjamin = will be

OssMan

05-07-2004, 12:13 AM

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MVP

05-07-2004, 12:13 AM

Doug Basham = MISS
Danny Basham = MISS
Brock Lesnar = HIT
John Cena = HIT
Mark Henry = MISS
Mark Jindrak = MAYBE
Garrison Cade = MAYBE
Victoria = HIT
Jazz = HIT
Gail Kim = MAYBE
Randy Orton = HIT
Rodney Mack = MISS
Rico = HIT
Miss Jackie = MAYBE
Renee Dupree = HIT
Slyvain Grenier = MAYBE
Rob Conway = HIT
Batista - HIT
John Heindenreich = MAYBE
Matt Morgan = MAYBE
Orlando Jordan = MAYBE
Nidia = HIT
Charlie Haas = HIT
Shelton Benjamin = HIT

Marc the Smark

05-07-2004, 12:16 AM

OssMan

05-07-2004, 12:28 AM

yes.

M-A-G

05-07-2004, 12:35 AM

Doug Basham = MISS
Danny Basham = MISS
Brock Lesnar = MISS
John Cena = HIT
Mark Henry = MISS
Mark Jindrak = MISS
Garrison Cade = MISS
Victoria = HIT
Jazz = HIT
Gail Kim = MISS
Randy Orton = MISS
Rodney Mack = MISS
Rico = MAYBE
Miss Jackie = MAYBE
Renee Dupree = MAYBE
Slyvain Grenier = MAYBE
Rob Conway = MAYBE
Batista - HIT
John Heindenreich = MISS
Matt Morgan = MISS
Orlando Jordan = MAYBE
Nidia = HIT
Charlie Haas = HIT
Shelton Benjamin = HIT

Loose Cannon

05-07-2004, 12:36 AM

Randy Orton = MISS

:wtf:

Champion of Europa

05-07-2004, 12:50 AM

Doug Basham = HIT (The man has not yet been able to show his potential).
Danny Basham = HIT (see: Basham, Doug)
Brock Lesnar = HIT (He did well during his time).
John Cena = HIT (Great stuff).
Mark Henry = MISS (They tried to get him over, just didn't work. He sucks, also).
Mark Jindrak = MAYBE (I'll have to see more of him)
Garrison Cade = MAYBE (See: Jindrak, Mark
Victoria = HIT (Great female wrestler).
Jazz = MISS (Bores me).
Gail Kim = HIT (I like her).
Randy Orton = HIT (Charismatic guy who will only get better).
Rodney Mack = MISS (Terrible).
Rico = HIT (Funny guy, charismatic, great wrestler).
Miss Jackie = MISS (Rico doesn't need a manager).
Renee Dupree = HIT (See: Orton, Randy).
Slyvain Grenier = MISS (If Rob Conway wasn't with him, he would sink).
Rob Conway = HIT (Great wrestler).
Batista - HIT (Great powerhouse)
John Heindenreich = MISS (He lasted like a month. WHO THE HELL WAS LITTLE JOHNNY?!).
Matt Morgan = MISS (Didn't accomplish anything).
Orlando Jordan = MISS (See: Morgan, Matt)
Nidia = MISS (Not a good manager or wrestler).
Charlie Haas = HIT (Good wrestler, has some charisma)
Shelton Benjamin = HIT (See: Conway, Rob)
Nick Dinsmore = HIT (Funny gimmick).

Corkscrewed

05-07-2004, 12:57 AM

Geez, so many topics. Space them out, will ya Scott? I still don't know how you're one of the 75 best posters here. Unless part of "best" means "post-every-five-seconds."

Gone Mad

05-07-2004, 12:57 AM

The HITS:

Jonh Cena,Brock, Victoria, RKO, Shelton, Dinsmore, Conway, Haas

MAYBES:

Dupree (see some potential and still young), Batista (has the power and intensity), Rico (seems to pull off the wrestling and acting real well)

M-A-G

05-07-2004, 01:01 AM

:wtf:
I'd explain but I can't be asked right now.

Bad Company

05-07-2004, 01:21 AM

Red Hot Scott: Miss.

PureHatred

05-07-2004, 01:39 AM

Red Hot Scott, your list is ridiculous. Jackie and Gail Kim are "maybe's" and Rico is a "hit." Yet, somehow, you gave Lesnar a "miss." WTF??!! I know the guy split, but that doesn't erase what he accomplished while he was in the WWE. :roll:

Marc the Smark

05-07-2004, 01:44 AM

Nowhere Man

05-07-2004, 01:45 AM

Randy Orton = MISS

You are by new best friend :love:

Corkscrewed

05-07-2004, 03:34 AM

^ Funny, cuz I always kinda grouped you two together. Mentally anyway.

big_bluto

05-07-2004, 06:45 AM

Doug Basham = HIT (as a tag team member)
Danny Basham = MISS (just kidding, same as the other basham)
Brock Lesnar = HIT (Huge success!)
John Cena = HIT (Talented and a stack of potential)
Mark Henry = MISS (Useless lumbering ugly, fu</>ckbag of mince)
Mark Jindrak = MAYBE (Still to see what Jindrak can do I think)
Garrison Cade = HIT (If all they are trying to achieve is to get someone who looks like Ric Flair)
Victoria = HIT (Yep. Good bit of talent)
Jazz = HIT (Yep. Good & Ugly bit of talent)
Gail Kim = MAYBE (Holding back judgement on this one)
Randy Orton = HIT (Talented and a stack of potential. NEEDS A FINISHER!)
Rodney Mack = MISS (Mark Henry with muscle definition, and a clumsy fu</>cker to boot!)
Rico = HIT (Brilliant success - never seen this guy put a foot wrong)
Miss Jackie = MAYBE ( depends what they eventually do with her)
Renee Dupree = MAYBE (Looks promising, but will wait and see)
Slyvain Grenier = MAYBE (Not convinced on this one)
Rob Conway = MAYBE (Kind of inbetween Renee and Sylvain)
Batista - MAYBE (Kind of filling the muscle-bound-monster slot that Mark Henry and Rodney Mack couldn't fill - needs work though!)
John Heindenreich = MISS (WTF happened to that guy?)
Matt Morgan = HIT (I reckon this guy was great, but WWE wasted him)
Orlando Jordan = MAYBE (depends if he gets a decent push to see what he can do)
Nidia = HIT (Nidia has great acting skills and mic work, and we'll find out about the ring stuff more in the future. Anything seen so far has been better than Batista though!)
Charlie Haas = HIT (Looks like a great talent for the future)
Shelton Benjamin = HIT (He looks like a good asset, but I can't see his push being sustained. Anothe Jericho without the mic skills)

King Jericho

05-07-2004, 08:52 AM

Doug Basham = Maybe
Danny Basham = Maybe
Brock Lesnar = Hit (Until he left :roll: )
John Cena = Hit
Mark Henry = Miss
Mark Jindrak = Maybe (The old Lex Narcissist gimmick is working)
Garrison Cade = Maybe (if booked right)
Victoria = Hit
Jazz = Hit
Gail Kim = Maybe
Randy Orton = Hit
Rodney Mack = Miss
Rico = Hit
Miss Jackie = Maybe
Renee Dupree = Hit
Slyvain Grenier = Hit
Rob Conway = Maybe
Batista - Hit
John Heindenreich = Miss
Matt Morgan = Maybe
Orlando Jordan = Maybe
Nidia = Maybe
Charlie Haas = Hit
Shelton Benjamin = Hit

The Show Off

05-07-2004, 03:41 PM

Doug Basham: MISS (The Basham Brothers are a boring Tag team)
Danndy Basham: MISS (The Basham Brothers are a boring Tag Team)
Brock Leasner: HIT (3 Time WWE Champion, enough said)
John Cena: HIT (So very over)
Mark Henry: MAYBE (Was doing good before injury)
Mark Jindrak: MISS (Boring)
Garrison Cade: MISS (yawn)
Victoria: HIT (Best female wrestler in the WWE)
Jazz: MAYBE (I never liked her, but she's okay I guess)
Gail Kim: MAYBE (Too early to tell)
Randy Orton: HIT (Top 10 best wrestlers today)
Rodney Mack: MISS (White boy challenges suck)
Rico: MAYBE (Soon he'll be a hit)
Miss Jackie: MISS (Pointless)
Renee Dupree: HIT (decent heel)
Sylvian Grineir: MISS (You mean the Montreal referee?)
Rob Conway: MISS (French sympathizer, blech)
Batista: MAYBE (too much hype, but not bad)
John Heindenreich: MISS (Lets do it for Jonny)
Matt Morgan: MISS (All he did was kill that woman Shannon Moore)
Orlando Jordan: MISS (That backstage guy?)
Nidia: HIT (Good character, will be a good wrestler)
Charlie Haas: HIT (World's Greatest Tag Team
Shelton Benjimain: HIT (A miss wouldn't be Triple H)

Shaggy

05-07-2004, 04:00 PM

Doug Basham = Miss
Danny Basham = Miss
Brock Lesnar = Miss
John Cena = Hit
Mark Henry = Miss
Mark Jindrak = Hit
Garrison Cade = Maybe
Victoria = Hit
Jazz = Miss
Gail Kim = Hit
Randy Orton = Big Hit
Rodney Mack = Miss
Rico = Hit
Miss Jackie = Maybe
Renee Dupree = Hit
Slyvain Grenier = Maybe
Rob Conway = Maybe
Batista - Maybe
John Heindenreich = Miss
Matt Morgan = Miss
Orlando Jordan = Miss
Nidia = Maybe
Charlie Haas = Hit
Shelton Benjamin = Hit

Batsu

05-07-2004, 05:44 PM

Here's what I think:

Doug Basham = MISS (lack of viable competition)
Danny Basham = MISS (lack of viable competition)
Brock Lesnar = (from HIT to) MISS
John Cena = HIT
Mark Henry = MISS (big time)
Mark Jindrak = MAYBE (let us hope he isn't Sean O'Haire II)
Garrison Cade = MAYBE (as of right now...)
Victoria = HIT
Jazz = MAYBE (not utilized too much)
Gail Kim = MAYBE (ditto)
Randy Orton = HIT (slowly but surely)
Rodney Mack = MISS (they kept dragging him out of range)
Rico = MAYBE (as of right now, he is near Goldust HIT status)
Miss Jackie = MAYBE (as long as she stays out of the ring)
Renee Dupree = MAYBE (too early to say)
Slyvain Grenier = MAYBE (seems less potent w/o Dupree)
Rob Conway = MAYBE (too early to say, makes a good "Quebecer")
Batista = HIT (somewhat)
John Heindenreich = MISS (who?)

Matt Morgan = MISS (big time)
Orlando Jordan = MAYBE
Nidia = MAYBE (not utilized enough)
Charlie Haas = HIT (definitely, w/or w/out the Team Angle gimmick)
Shelton Benjamin = HIT (definitely, thanks to HHH and others)

Marc the Smark

05-07-2004, 11:22 PM

:y:

Heyman

05-07-2004, 11:29 PM

I'm doing this in terms of "main-event potential".

Doug Basham = MISS
Danny Basham = MISS
Brock Lesnar = HIT
John Cena = HIT
Mark Henry = MISS
Mark Jindrak = MISS
Garrison Cade = MISS
Victoria = HIt
Jazz = HIT
Gail Kim = HIT
Randy Orton = HIT
Rodney Mack = MISS
Rico = MISS
Miss Jackie = HIT
Renee Dupree = MAYBE
Slyvain Grenier = MAYBE
Rob Conway = MAYBE
Batista - HIT (he has "the look")
John Heindenreich = MAYBE
Matt Morgan = MAYBE
Orlando Jordan = MISS
Nidia = MISS
Charlie Haas = MAYBE
Shelton Benjamin = MAYBE

MVP

05-08-2004, 12:27 AM

Would those of you who said Brock Lesnar was a "miss" please elaborate?

Mr. Nerfect

05-08-2004, 02:37 AM

When you say H, Mi or Ma, are you referring to wrestlers themselves or the way they've been used? Assuming this is based on wrestler's talent, usage, the way they've been marketted and their current potential and future potenital (Hit=Superb, Maybe=Unsure as of now and Miss =Not exaclty a strong point). I'll put a number next to each Hit, etc. that number is either 1 (near the bottom), 2 (about average) or 3 (near the top):

Doug Basham
T: Hit 2
U: Hit 2
M: Hit 2
CP: Maybe 3
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 2 or 39/45 or A
I consider the Basham Brothers team very successful, but I would like to see both split up and move onto main events.

Danny Basham
T: Hit 2
U: Maybe 3
M: Maybe 1
CP: Miss 3
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Maybe 3 or 30/45 or B
Danny Basham is now stuck in the brother role. I think he should go to RAW as the Damaja now, leaving Machine to do his own thing on SmackDown!. I think a good GTV type angle where you find out Doug and Danny aren't really brothers would be cool.

Brock Lesnar
T: Hit 3
U: Hit 3
M: Hit 3
CP: Maybe 1
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 2 or 40/45 or A
Until he left, Lesnar was a shining gem. I think he would have run flat after a couple of years, though. He needed a real interesting gimmick to keep him interesting. Lesnar's the hole package. The reason Iranked his current potenial a "Maybe" is because he could still benefeit the WWE. If he returned right now, he would be over huge.

John Cena
T: Hit 2
U: Hit 3
M: Hit 3
CP: Hit 2
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 3 or 43/45 or A
Is there anything to complain about? Cena's perhaps the biggest star of the future on SmackDown!. He loses 1 point for current potential as he is being kept back by the US Championship. I think he should stop "Pumping up his shoes." though. That is really lame. :-\

Mark Henry
T: Miss 3
U: Hit 2
M: Hit 1
CP: Maybe 2
FP: Hit 2
Overall: Hit 1 or 33/45 or B
Henry could be agoldmine if used right. His gimmick att the moment could work, or it may not. I'm not sure what he'll do without Teddy now. Maybe Kenny Bolin or Jeromey Crony?

Mark Jindrak
T: Hit 2
U: Maybe 3
M: Maybe 2
CP: Maybe 3
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 1 or 34/45 or B
Mark Jindrak can go either up or down now. He's been on Velocity for the last few weeks, but at least he's won both those matches. If they give TRL time to promote him, and give him a good winning streak, the sky's the limit for this (probably) more technically gifted version of the Narcissist.

Garrison Cade
T: Hit 1
U: Maybe 3
M: Hit 2
CP: Hit 1
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 2 or 37/45 or A-
Cade has been marketted as the guy who will do anything to win, and has his own set of heavy moves. I think he's got potential, if they just give him some decisive wins on RAW.

Victoria
T: Hit 3
U: Hit 1
M: Maybe 1
CP: Maybe 1
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 2 or 37/45 or A-
I personally thought Victoria would get higher, but she's lost her edge in recent weeks, IMO. She's just like Ovory was about a year ago, the only thing keeping Vicky from fading away is the WWE Women's Championship right now, IMO. It's strange how someone who should have gotten a Hit 3, got a Hit 1 because of a change of gimmick. Gimmicks do matter in this busy day.

Jazz
T: Hit 2
U: Maybe 3
M: Maybe 3
CP: Hit 2
FP: Hit 2
Overall: Hit 2 or 36/45 or B+
It's surprising how close Jazz and Vicky come. 'Toria was knocked back because of her gimmick, while Jazz because of how she's been constantly jobbed out of the title. She gets close for about a week, then she fades away. Like Victoria, she could be a major player in the WWE, if used right.

Gail Kim
T: Hit 3
U: Miss 3
M: Miss 3
CP: Hit 1
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 1 or 31/45 or B
Unlike many, Gail Kim isn't let down in her technical area, but how she is being used and marketted. If you ask someone to name three divas, Trish, Lita and Stacy would probably be right up there. Gail Kim hasn't been exposed as much as she could, despite being perhaps the hottest diva in the WWE :drool:. If Kim got pushed to the title (as it looks like she is now), we could have a WWE gem.

Randy Orton
T: Hit 2
U: Hit 3
M: Hit 3
CP: Hit 3
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 3 or 44/45 or A+
The WWE have done a good job at keeping Orton away from th lead spotlight, as well as keeping him main event material. Orton has prooven time and time again he can wrestle and entertain, as well as carry a title. IMO, Orton would be one of the better IC Champions in a long time. He carries the title, as well as carries some events. He beats Cena by one point as one of the biggest up and coming superstars in the WWE today.

Rodney Mack
T: Maybe 2
U: Maybe 1
M: Maybe 1
CP: Maybe 2
FP: Hit 2
Overall: Maybe 3 or 26/45 or C+
Rodney Mack has the talent to be one of the greatest tag team wrestlers in the WWE, especially with Shelton Benjamin. If he redebuted as redd Dogg, then we're talking.

Rico
T: Hit 3
U: Hit 3
M: Hit 3
CP: Hit 2
FP: Hit 2
Overall: Hit 3 or 43/45 or A
Rico is a legend as far as entertainment goes, IMO. He can be a face, a heel or a tweener. He's got great wrestling skills, and has been used right, but his age and the Tag Titles are stopping him from being a megastar (although it wouldn't surprise me if he did reach that level).

Miss Jackie
T: Maybe 3
U: Hit 3
M: Hit 3
CP: Hit 2
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 3 or 41/45 or A
I betcha this shocked you. Jackie isn't the best wrestler, but when it comes to being valet, diva and entertainer, she's right up there with Rico.

Rene Dupree
T: Hit 2
U: Hit 2
M: Hit 3
CP: Hit 2
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 3 or 42/45 or A
Not much really to say on top of this.

Sylvain Grenier
T: Hit 1
U: Hit 2
M: Hit 3
CP: Maybe 1
FP: Hit 2
Overall: Hit 2 or 36/45 or B+
This guy has so much potential, but right now he's like an inferior Rene Dupree.:'(

Rob Conway
T: HIT 3!
U: Hit 1
M: Hit 3
CP: Hit 1
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 3 or 41/45 or A
Way underrated. Full stop.

Batista
T: Hit 1
U: Maybe 3
M: Hit 3
CP: Hit 1
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 2 or 38/45 or A-
Most misuesed member of Evolution. 'Nuff said.

Jon Heidenreich
T: Maybe 1
U: Maybe 1
M: Hit 1
CP: Miss 3
FP: Hit 1
Overall: Maybe 2 or 25/45 or C
They could've pushed him right, but instead he's back down at the camp. Oh well, at least there's Big Bad John. :-\

Matt Morgan
T: Maybe 3
U: Maybe 1
M: Maybe 2
CP: Hit 2
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 1 or 32/45 or B
Matt Morgan has potential, he just needs to be pushed right, and as his own force.

Orlando Jordan
T: Hit 1
U: Miss 3
M: Miss 3
CP: Hit 1
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Maybe 3 or 29/45 or B-
For maximum success rate, he could be repacked some way.

Nidia
T: Hit 1
U: Hit 1
M: Hit 1
CP: Hit 1
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 2 or 37/45 or A-
As a valet and manager, to the sky. As a wrestler, Mt Everest.

Charlie Haas
T: Hit 3
U: Hit 2
M: Hit 3
CP: Hit 3
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 3 or 44/45 or A+
'Nuff said.

Shelton Benjamin
T: Hit 3
U: Hit 3
M: Hit 3
CP: Hit 3
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 3 or 45/45 or A+
Probably the best up and comer on RAW, probably competeing back and forth with Randy Orton.:y:

Sorry I got a bit lazy towards the end, but they're my honest opinions. :y:

Marc the Smark

05-08-2004, 10:52 AM

:y: Alienoid

ColdwaVer

05-08-2004, 04:15 PM

Doug Basham = MISS
Danny Basham = MISS
Brock Lesnar = HIT
John Cena = HIT
Mark Henry = MISS
Mark Jindrak = Hasn't really made it to the target yet
Garrison Cade = See Jindrak
Victoria = HIT
Jazz = Well... let's see her not get injured for about six months then let's talk
Gail Kim = See the above couple about not reaching the target
Randy Orton = HIT
Rodney Mack = Again, hasn't had a chance to get off the ground without getting hurt
Rico = HIT
Miss Jackie = So far a miss, but I'm willing to give her some space
Dupree = HIT (since moving to SD)
Grenier/Conway = Missing, but may still hit
Batista - HIT
John Heindenreich = MISS
Matt Morgan = MISS
Orlando Jordan = MAYBE
Nidia = MISS
Charlie Haas = HIT
Shelton Benjamin = HIT

Heyman

05-08-2004, 05:03 PM

Awesome post Alienoid06.

That deserves REP

Fox

05-08-2004, 10:14 PM

There's a problem with the list. Jazz, Mark Henry, and Victoria did not come from OVW. Jazz is from ECW, Mark Henry was with the WWF before OVW even existed, and Victoria was a "ho" before turning wrestler.

If you mean they temporarily trained there, then that's fine, but it really doesn't say anything about the "OVW alumni" when they didn't start there.

Boondock Saint

05-08-2004, 11:20 PM

Brock Lesnar = Miss :wtf:

HeartBreakMan2k

05-09-2004, 03:15 AM

Doug Basham = MISS
Danny Basham = MISS
Brock Lesnar = HIT
John Cena = HIT
Mark Henry = MISS
Mark Jindrak = MAYBE
Garrison Cade = MAYBE
Victoria = HIT
Jazz = HIT
Gail Kim = MAYBE
Randy Orton = HIT
Rodney Mack = MISS
Rico = HIT
Miss Jackie = MAYBE
Renee Dupree = HIT
Slyvain Grenier = HIT
Rob Conway = HIT
Batista - HIT
John Heindenreich = MISS
Matt Morgan = MISS
Orlando Jordan = MISS
Nidia = MAYBE
Charlie Haas = HIT
Shelton Benjamin = HIT

Mr. Nerfect

05-09-2004, 05:20 AM

Watson

05-09-2004, 04:24 PM

Nidia = HIT

Nidia = HIT

Nidia = HIT (Nidia has great acting skills and mic work, and we'll find out about the ring stuff more in the future. Anything seen so far has been better than Batista though!)

Nidia: HIT (Good character, will be a good wrestler)

Nidia
T: Hit 1
U: Hit 1
M: Hit 1
CP: Hit 1
FP: Hit 3
Overall: Hit 2 or 37/45 or A-
As a valet and manager, to the sky. As a wrestler, Mt Everest.

Reps all around for you guys.

The Ravishing One

05-09-2004, 04:59 PM

Doug Basham = MISS
Danny Basham = MISS
Brock Lesnar = hit
John Cena = hit
Mark Henry = MISS
Mark Jindrak = HIT
Garrison Cade = MAYBE
Victoria = HIT :y: :naughty:
Jazz = miss
Gail Kim = MAYBE
Randy Orton = HIT
Rodney Mack = MISS
Rico = HIT
Miss Jackie = maybe
Renee Dupree = HIT
Slyvain Grenier = maybe
Rob Conway = miss
Batista - maybe
John Heindenreich = miss
Matt Morgan = MISS
Orlando Jordan = miss
Nidia = miss
Charlie Haas = HIT
Shelton Benjamin = HIT

Mr. Nerfect

05-09-2004, 05:32 PM

Victoria = HIT :y: :naughty:

I hear that. :naughty:

Batsu

05-10-2004, 11:26 PM

about why Brock Lesnar was a "MISS":

Actually, I listed him as a from "HIT" to "MISS".

The main rationale for giving him a "MISS" was his exit from WWE. If it were due to injuries or what have you... it would have been more respectable. I'm not going to argue him going to get his money, but he wasn't even around in WWE for 2 years yet.

as for him being a "HIT" beforehand, he was, but it was rather forced. They forced Brock as a "badass" in the vein of Steve Austin. They forced Brock into the top slot as a rookie (which, in some way, was captivating, but overall, somewhat disappointing)...too much was just forced. It was like HHH without the backstage grease. Like Goldberg with actual wrestling prowess. Eventually he finally hit as a main eventer...but they really should have taken their time with him.

He was definitely skilled and put on a great show, but I'll dare say Chris Benoit was better on the mic than Brock was in the beginning. That voice of his was almost of Mike Tyson levels.

It was almost like they set him up to burn out.

Eunos

05-11-2004, 12:39 PM

Doug and Danny Basham = Maybe (Their one of the very few proper Tag Team At the Momment.. I think they are definatly better then what there making out to be so far)

Brock Lesner = Hit (Despite all the Stuff thats happened recently I would be more then Happy to see Brock in a WWE ring again one day)

John Cena = Hit (I just like the guy)

Mark Henry = Miss (Terrible wrestler)

Mark Jindrak = Maybe (Promos need abit of Developing.. But with Theodore Long at his side.. Im sure Jindrak has hope)

Garrison Cade = Maybe (Need to see him more to be honest)

Victoria = Hit (Definatly one of the finest the Womens division has to offer right now)

Jazz = Hit ( If this were a good looking contest she would be a Miss but its not so Jazz is definatly a good addition to the Womens division)

Gail Kim = Maybe (I must say i do enjoy her Submission move.. I just need to see more of her..But i definatly am enjoying what i see so far)

Randy Orton = Hit (Developing very nicely and getting confident in the ring.. Randy has also proven that he is cabable of being a future main event.. I can't wait for him to Feud with Cena)

Rodney Mack = Maybe (To be fair i havent seen enough of Rodney Mack)

Rico = Hit ( I must say Rico is actually becoming one of my favourites as of late...Great Character)

Miss Jackie = Miss (Nah)

Rene Dupree = Hit (I really like this guy.. His definatly proven himself.. I hope Rene is here to stay.... I can definatly see him Main eventing in a few years time...)

Sylvain Grenair = Maybe (To be fair he really hasnt had the same oppertunities as Rene.. This guy needs to develop more but hopefully will be able to be just like Rene one day)

Rob Conway = Hit ( This guys a good addition to the Roster.... To be honest i actually enjoy Las resistance.. Even if the Anti American Gimmick has been done many a time)

Batista = Hit (Another guy i really like.... He'll probably be a Key Player in the Future)

Jon Heidenreich = Miss (Only saw this guy once... God awful.)

Matt Morgan = Maybe (Matt isn't terrible but he is lacking somewhat.. I think going back to Ovw for awhile was a good idea.. Hopefully Matt will Develop and become one of the best Big guys in the WWE ever)

Orlando Jordan = Maybe (This guy just hasnt offered anything yet... he looks like he might carry some potential but since being in WWE he just hasnt done anything at all to get himself noticed)

Nidia = Hit (One of Tough Enoughs better offerings)

Charlie Haas = Hit ( Ok so Charlie isnt moving to the top as fast as Shelton but i must admit im actually enjoying this thing with him an Rico right now.. But eventually i do want to see haas break away. I would definatly like to see Charlie main eventing in Time..One of the many Potentials today)

Shelton Benjamen = Hit ( It's a long cut but i think Shelton has the Potential to be the first Black WWE Champion unless you count The Rock which i don't. With Victories over Triple H and Ric Flair it seems Shelton is Definatly flying to the top. I would like to see him become IC champ first. And hell in the Distant future a Haas/ BenJamin Rivallry.. IMO It would be ashame for only 1 of these 2 to make it whilst the other gets left behind)

05-11-2004, 01:16 PM

91 - dishing out more "maybes" than Captain Indecisive.

Doug Basham = Maybe: Decent enough wrestler I guess but the Bashams have garnered zero interest so far - they'll need either repackaging or a decent feud/angle to get going, but at least we've got an actual tag team in the ranks.

Danny Basham = Maybe: See above.

Brock Lesnar = Hit/Miss: I'm sure you can work out why, and if he ever returns you can stick a big "maybe" on him too.

John Cena = Hit: Damn popular and posseses a decent gimmick. Only risk is that his current material sometimes feels so watered down and "meh, sod the decent jokes, I'll just suck up to the home town and call my opponent a bender". If he can get some better raps going and polish his ring skills a bit, he'll be more than fine.

Mark Henry = Miss: I bet Vince wishes he could set his time machine back to 1996 and stop himself hiring the big lug.

Mark Jindrak = Maybe: Not bad in the ring. Since splitting with Cade, and I'm not entirely sure why since neither man seems to have masses of direction going for them since, he's not done much to grab my attention but at least he's not being actively buried.

Garrison Cade = Maybe: Same as above really, perhaps a touch higher since his face seems to remind me of Bobby Eaton.

Victoria = Hit: Can't find any reason to pout about her here.

Jazz = Hit: See above. Again.

Gail Kim = Maybe: Leaning towards 'Miss' right now, but I'll give her a chance to impress.

Randy Orton = Hit: I always liked him but I predicted before Backlash that his match with Foley could be one that makes him. He's learning fast too, which always helps and he has bags of charisma, plus they seem to have plenty of faith in him to get behind him and give him a big push, which always helps.

Rodney Mack = Miss: Pah, f</>uck that.

Rico = Maybe a hit: If they can stick with him long enough to get over, then they've got a potential hit on their hands. Great wrestler and I digged the old Adrian Street character back in the day, so why not Rico too?

Miss Jackie = Miss: At least in terms of ringwork, but at least she's not wrestling that much right now, so I'll let her off.

Renee Dupree = Hit: I like Dupree, he plays his character well and he's pretty good in the ring. I'm content with him and I'm enjoying his schtick on Smackdown and my enjoyment is always what matters.

Slyvain Grenier = Maybe: Everyone seems to be so down on the guy. OK, so he's not as good as Dupree or Conway, but he's far from totally dire in my eyes. That said, he's got a lot of learning to do.

Rob Conway = Maybe, but more of a maybe than Grenier, in a good way. For Conway, that is.: La Resistances push seemed to stop with Conway, which probably doesn't help, but again he's very good in the ring and has potential, they just need to find a niche for him. Still, I am hearing those who say he's got all this potential, they just need to find a way to use it.

Batista - Hit: Dave "may or may not be gay" Batista as me and my entourage christened him after Randy Ortons Wrestlemania monologue. I actually quite like him, which surprises me actually. OK, he's no Bret (oh god, is he no Bret) but he's reasonable enough for a big guy and I'd rather they pushed him than half the other hosses they've got and I agree with Heyman (there, it's happened) in that he has a superstar look to him.

John Heindenreich = Maybe: HEEEEEEEERE'S JOHNNY! Actually I've never seen him, so it'd be unfair of me to judge, but give him a Jack Nicholson gimmick anyway just to appease me. But not really.

Matt Morgan = Miss: Way to sell that chopblock at the Rumble Matt. Suddenly I can appreciate why he was tagging with Nathan Jones - get them both out of the way in the same match.

Orlando Jordan = Maybe: He's like my futile attempts at wrapping presents at christmas - needs repackaging. Or something, a push maybe, I dunno. He's alright I guess.

Nidia = Maybe: I don't dislike Nidia and thought she was quite good looking until I watched No Way Out and it appeared as if she'd changed her face (while I'm at it, anyone else think Victoria looks like Davina McCall these days...). They need to find something for her to do.

Charlie Haas = Hit: Looked great at part of TWGTT. Not sure how this Rico deal will pan out but he's a great wrestler so he should be fine.

Shelton Benjamin = Hit: Another great wrestler and they look to be interested in pushing the guy. That seems to have slowed down in the last couple of weeks, but I'm willing to give them plenty of time to get it right.

My Final Heaven

05-11-2004, 03:09 PM

Doug Basham = Miss (never liked him)
Danny Basham = See above
Brock Lesnar = Hit, even tho he puts me to sleep
John Cena = HIT, HIT, & TRIPLE HIT!
Mark Henry = Miss (do I need a reason?)
Mark Jindrak = Hit
Garrison Cade = Maybe, because HE KILLED 2PAC! :lol:
Victoria = Hit, solid ringwork even tho I don't care for the Botox Face look :p
Jazz = Maybe, just as long as they don't try & push her as a Diva
Gail Kim = Hit (always been a big fan of hers)
Randy Orton = Hit - Has potential to be the next Rock
Rodney Mack = Maybe (I think he has something in him he hasn't been able to show yet)
Rico = Maybe - better managing than wrestling
Miss Jackie = MISS - ABOMIDABLE
Renee Dupree = BIG HIT
Slyvain Grenier = ^ up there
Rob Conway = Maybe, I dunno, he kinda reminds me of Disco Inferno
Batista - halfway between hit & maybe
John Heindenreich = what were they thinking?
Matt Morgan = Is too much a part of the background, can't do anything really noticable, so MISS
Orlando Jordan = same as Rodney Mack
Nidia = Miss - WWE would do better by poaching Lollipop from TNA, & THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING!
Charlie Haas = HIT
Shelton Benjamin = UNBELIEVABLE HIT - The pupil really outshined the teacher on this one.

John la Rock

05-11-2004, 04:08 PM

Brock Lesnar is a HIT but I understand they way people feel about him now since he left the company

Nark Order

05-11-2004, 05:42 PM

Victoria= HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT HIT *splooge*