Official WWE Raw Thread(vegas ain't easy

[Droford]

better or worse than odb an ey's wrdding

[Wake Up Call]

Who wants to bet Kane interupts that wedding?

[Keith]

It's gonna be more than HBK and HHH, Jerry Lawler just gave it away.

He said "They'll all reunite".

[RawRocks]

where was Brodus earlier lol

[Road Warrior]

Hope Lesnar answer's HHH's challenge by F5 ing all of DX

[Tom Guycott]

Tazz: "C'mon JR! *Somebody call my maaaama*!"

[Droford]

It's gonna be more than HBK and HHH, Jerry Lawler just gave it away.

He said "They'll all reunite".

might be interesting to see how they get rick rude to show up

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: the Divas title got more votes than the US title.

[KIRA]

They're all a bunch of jackoffs, and maybe they'll have their reunion just so everyone could see D-X split.

I hope not last time DX split I woke up screaming for a whole year



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[Rollermacka]

Is it just me or does anyone else think Brodus doesn't really need to be squashing people anymore?

[Cool King]

lol, people would rather see a Divas match, than a Santino match.

Apparently.

[Droford]

Hope Lesnar answer's HHH's challenge by F5 ing all of DX
lesnar vs dx 5 on 1 handicap match at summrrslam

[Keith]

might be interesting to see how they get rick rude to show up

He showed up on RAW and Nitro the same night, so don't ever count him out!

:shifty:

[Droford]

the wwe graphics people are on top of that wedding

[Crimson]

Why is Brodus still in these matches?? Is creative team that fucking lazy

[Innovator]

So Zack, Swagger, AND JTG all get entrances this week...AND ARE ON RAW?!?!

[Tom Guycott]

Who wants to bet Kane interupts that wedding?

... and marries AJ instead.

(won't let me post the .gif of her skipping around Kane in an infinite loop. Just imagine it.)

[KIRA]

I'm just happy to see JTG again

[Tom Guycott]

might be interesting to see how they get rick rude to show up

#tupacconcert

[Keith]

Who wants to bet Kane interupts that wedding?

It's the 1,000th RAW, so as a "shout out" to the HHH/Stephanie/Test wedding back in the day, Kane comes out as Bryan and AJ get married, and shows footage of himself riding alongside a passed out AJ, and getting married through a drive-thru window.

Make it happen, double-double-E.

[Wake Up Call]

Pander to the children, will keep you employed in the WWE.

God I miss when guys came down to the ring, cursed their opponent out, and they kick the shit out of each other.

[KIRA]

that little girl looks frighted

[Keith]

Did Donald Trump say Vince came out with a hat and looked a bit like a black guy?!

[Innovator]

Lashley shown on RAW?

[Cool King]

#tupacconcert

#hatsunemikuconcert

[Wake Up Call]

Lashley shown on RAW?


Is that significant?

Didn't they promote the hell out of "No Holds Barred" last night during MITB starring Hulk Hogan?

[KIRA]

Lashley shown on RAW?

Vince is forgiving all for that 1000th RAW

[Innovator]

No Holds Barred is remembered more fondly than Lashley, in my eyes.

[#1-norm-fan]

Why is Brodus still in these matches?? Is creative team that fucking lazy

How do people complain about guys beating people they're above still!? When has this NOT been a part of wrestling? Seriously. lol Back in the early 90's shows consisted ENTIRELY of matches like that. The MAIN EVENT of the first Raw was Taker vs. Damien Demento.

Building guys up by beating lower level guys and saving the bigger matches for PPV to give people a reason to pay for it is a really good strategy.

[Cool King]

Lashley shown on RAW?

Not in the UK though.

Sky Sports here just cut to a break when that Raw Moment was just starting.

[Dukelorange]

Remember folks, on Raw next week Vince says for everybody to sit on a milk crate...

[SammyG]

LOOK IN MY EYEEEEEEEEEEESSS WHAT DO YOU SEEEEEEEEEEE

[#1-norm-fan]

It worries me how spoiled some fans have gotten. They need to see nothing but huge highly competitive matches on Raw and then they complain about how the PPVs are too much like just an episode of Raw.

[Droford]

if d lo wasnt in tna they could reunite the nation of domination next week

[Wake Up Call]

You can't blame Cena for cashing in?

Who did he rip the shit out of for cashing in a couple years ago?

Short memories

[Innovator]

Will Big Show ever lose to Punk?

[Keith]

Crazy how even if Bret Hart wanted to reunite the Hart Foundation for the 1,000th RAW, he can't.

[SammyG]

It worries me how spoiled some fans have gotten. They need to see nothing but huge highly competitive matches on Raw and then they complain about how the PPVs are too much like just an episode of Raw.
it's the Internet Wrestling Community, what do you expect?

[Keith]

About 10 minutes 'til RAW ends, and still no Cena announcement.

I wonder if his announcement will be him cashing in the MITB tonight.

[Savio]

No way Cena will cash in tonight.

[Wake Up Call]

I owuld bet my house, car, wife, and boat Cena will NOT cash in tonight

[Keith]

LOL Big Show calling someone else "fat boy".

[Road Warrior]

How do people complain about guys beating people they're above still!? When has this NOT been a part of wrestling? Seriously. lol Back in the early 90's shows consisted ENTIRELY of matches like that. The MAIN EVENT of the first Raw was Taker vs. Damien Demento.

Building guys up by beating lower level guys and saving the bigger matches for PPV to give people a reason to pay for it is a really good strategy.

You do realize Brodus has been on tv for 6 months right ?

[SammyG]

That fan is talking hella shit

[Droford]

cena cashes in rught now makingbthis a triple tgreat and beats show for the belt lol

[Tom Guycott]

Hearing that guy in the crowd, all I can think of is "SUPER DRAGON!!!"

[Keith]

Or maybe Cena will challenge Punk to a match at Summerslam and cash it in that way?

[#1-norm-fan]

He may announce that he's cashing in at SummerSlam?

OR "Hey, Rock. You want the WWE Title? I've got a guaranteed contract for it if you can beat me again."

[SammyG]

This fan is annoying as hell.

[#1-norm-fan]

You do realize Brodus has been on tv for 6 months right ?

6 WHOLE MONTHS!?! *GASP*

How has he not run through the roster, won every title in order of importance and retired by now!?!?

[#1-norm-fan]

You do realize The Undertaker was not a rookie when he was facing guys like Damien Demento right?

[KIRA]

it's the Internet Wrestling Community, what do you expect?

We are cynical, Jaded ,unquenchable bastards and proud of it.

I blame the attitude era for putting on good shows all the damn time(well a large part of the time )

[Crimson]

How do people complain about guys beating people they're above still!? When has this NOT been a part of wrestling? Seriously. lol Back in the early 90's shows consisted ENTIRELY of matches like that. The MAIN EVENT of the first Raw was Taker vs. Damien Demento.

Building guys up by beating lower level guys and saving the bigger matches for PPV to give people a reason to pay for it is a really good strategy.

Yes I agree. But it has run it's course and it is boring.

[Tom Guycott]

Crazy how even if Bret Hart wanted to reunite the Hart Foundation for the 1,000th RAW, he can't.

If you limit it to the tag team and not the stable, yes he can.

[Gass]

I owuld bet my house, car, wife, and boat Cena will NOT cash in tonight

QFT

[Keith]

If you limit it to the tag team and not the stable, yes he can.

Tag Team or stable, it's Jim Neidhart lol.

[#1-norm-fan]

Yes I agree. But it has run it's course and it is boring.

It's only boring if the match is boring. Brodus' matches are fun little minute long squashes or a couple minutes and that's when a guy like JTG is getting some offense in. It serves a purpose and it literally take a minute or two out of the show. Does that anger you that much? lol

[Keith]

Cue John Cena and we'll see what happens.

[#1-norm-fan]

SO glad they didn't do the terrible "champ gets pinned" thing.

The booking tonight has been WAY better than it has lately.

[KIRA]

here it comes hes too good to stoop that low

[Road Warrior]

6 WHOLE MONTHS!?! *GASP*

How has he not run through the roster, won every title in order of importance and retired by now!?!?

My point was is they're not building him for anything. He's really only kept on tv for the children's entertainment aspect. So it's pointless for you to say something like " Building guys up by beating lower level guys and saving the bigger matches for PPV to give people a reason to pay for it is a really good strategy". When it's clear that's not what they're doing with him and the reason he's wrestling JTG...again.

[dronepool]

Cena waits, cashes, loses, turns,

[SammyG]

Cena's losing.

[Heisenberg]

Rock is gonna cost him the match and Cena/Rock 2 happens...

[RawRocks]

Rest In Peace - 2 hour Monday Night Raws

[SammyG]

or wins, and sets up Rock-Cena 2.

[Cool King]

Well, my prediction for Cena's MITB cash in was half right, I guess.

[Tom Guycott]

I feel stupid now. Didn't know Anvil was in trouble. Thought it was just in reference to the other 3 stablemates being not alive anymore.

[Wake Up Call]

If I was booking, I would have had Cena pick Punk up, step to the side, and tell big show "Knock Him OUT!!!!"

BANG KO Punch

Cena cashes in, wins the WWE Title. Biggest heel turn since Hogan.

[Crimson]

It's only boring if the match is boring. Brodus' matches are fun little minute long squashes or a couple minutes and that's when a guy like JTG is getting some offense in. It serves a purpose and it literally take a minute or two out of the show. Does that anger you that much? lol

More like makes me turn the channel. They need to move it along it's been like a year.

[Emperor Smeat]

Kind of anti-climatic to actually announce when it gets cashed but then again next week is a special event.

Probably the best way for a case holder to actually lose if they have no real advantage but at the same time it guarantees Cena doesn't turn heel since the case provides the easiest way for the switch to happen.

A lot better RAW than last week.

[#1-norm-fan]

My point was is they're not building him for anything. He's really only kept on tv for the children's entertainment aspect. So it's pointless for you to say something like " Building guys up by beating lower level guys and saving the bigger matches for PPV to give people a reason to pay for it is a really good strategy". When it's clear that's not what they're doing with him and the reason he's wrestling JTG...again.

They're keeping him on TV because he's a useful member of the roster and they feel they can make money with him. They wanna make him a star. Constantly winning matches in a dominant fashion is a good way to do that early on. Eventually he moves up to beating middle level guys with some lower level guys thrown in, see how that goes, main event ideally, etc. They're establishing his spot on the roster. The only problem people have is impatience because they need to see characters booked at super-speed.

[KIRA]

My point was is they're not building him for anything. He's really only kept on tv for the children's entertainment aspect. So it's pointless for you to say something like " Building guys up by beating lower level guys and saving the bigger matches for PPV to give people a reason to pay for it is a really good strategy". When it's clear that's not what they're doing with him and the reason he's wrestling JTG...again.


9yr olds want Brodus Clay happy 9yr olds = $$$ so you can see where the opinions of IWC starts to simply mean absolutely dick to Vince and Co.

so what can you do but stop complaing and ride it out

and besides that I like JTG

[Dukelorange]

Cena waits, cashes, loses, turns,

- 1 That's not going to happen

[Tom Guycott]

If I was booking, I would have had Cena pick Punk up, step to the side, and tell big show "Knock Him OUT!!!!"

BANG KO Punch

Cena cashes in, wins the WWE Title. Biggest heel turn since Hogan.

Not gonna happen. Not with Cena trying to become the "Wilt Chamberlain" of Make-A-Wish, not to mention the millions (and millions) of dollars in revenue that would be lost in hat/shirt/wristband sales just to appease the IWC for about 3 months with a heel turn.

[Sepholio]

I somehow knew that would be the finish, although I expected him to announce he was cashing in at SS, but damnit. That had to be the best opportunity ever to turn Cena heel. I was totally drooling over the possibility that maybe, just maybe, he would cash in tonight and turn in the process and finally become fresh again. Oh well.

[Droford]

way too much stuff being jammed into 3 hours next week..

[#1-norm-fan]

Kind of anti-climatic to actually announce when it gets cashed but then again next week is a special event.

Probably the best way for a case holder to actually lose if they have no real advantage but at the same time it guarantees Cena doesn't turn heel since the case provides the easiest way for the switch to happen.

A lot better RAW than last week.

It's like when RVD cashed in on Cena. Not "anti-climatic". Just using the case for a "big fight feel" match.

Cena vs Punk just being announced leads to the chance of a shitty finish just to stretch things out. Cena cashing in his one guaranteed title match makes it a PPV quality match.

[KIRA]

Not gonna happen. Not with Cena trying to become the "Wilt Chamberlain" of Make-A-Wish, not to mention the millions (and millions) of dollars in revenue that would be lost in hat/shirt/wristband sales just to appease the IWC for about 3 months with a heel turn.

Basically this.


IWC cant seem to grasp that it is not the focus of the WWE and wont be for quite some time

[#1-norm-fan]

Next week is the best set up Raw of all time. Holy fuck.

[KIRA]

It's like when RVD cashed in on Cena. Not "anti-climatic". Just using the case for a "big fight feel" match.

Cena vs Punk just being announced leads to the chance of a shitty finish just to stretch things out. Cena cashing in his one guaranteed title match makes it a PPV quality match.

I really hope Cena doesn't get the title before we get either Punk v Rock or Punk v Lesnar not all that optimistic that second one will ever happen

[#1-norm-fan]

I am hoping against hope for Punk vs Rock at WrestleMania but it won't happen.

More likely that Cena wins the title next week and uses it to bribe Rock for a rematch which could only really happen at WrestleMania. I can't really see Rock wrestling at SummerSlam.

[Flash Funk]

I would have no problem with Rock/Cena II, Taker vs. Lesnar, and Stone Cold vs. Punk at WrestleMania

[Tom Guycott]

Basically this.


IWC cant seem to grasp that it is not the focus of the WWE and wont be for quite some time

It's not so much that, it's the fact that the default answer "to cure SuperCena" is a heel turn.

He doesn't have to go heel to change up his character and be less boring, repetitive, and predictable. Hogan's turn was kind of "what else can we do with him?" He had been a heel, but that was before he was a household name, whereas Cena's BEEN heel before while in the spotlight... that's pretty much how he made a name for himself. His face turn came because he was the hot new thing that everyone got behind (much like Ziggler, people want him to turn face SOOO BAD).

Changing sides is way too much of a kneejerk reaction. Sometimes it makes sense, but other times, you don't have to turn someone face/heel to make them fresh. It's not him being a face that has run its course, it's the whole "overcoming the odds, even when it makes no sense to do so" thing.

Cena turning heel won't fix that. And THAT is what people need to grasp.

[#1-norm-fan]

I would have no problem with Rock/Cena II, Taker vs. Lesnar, and Stone Cold vs. Punk at WrestleMania

The problem I have with Rock vs Cena again is that the outcome would be predictable after Rock won last year.

[Gonzo]

I am hoping against hope for Punk vs Rock at WrestleMania but it won't happen.

More likely that Cena wins the title next week and uses it to bribe Rock for a rematch which could only really happen at WrestleMania. I can't really see Rock wrestling at SummerSlam.

I'd be more interested if Rocky cost Cena the match which led to the Rock/Cena II.

[DaVe]

Good Raw I thought. Raw 1000 has a lot to live up to.

[Razzamajazz]

i predict raw #1001 will be "meh"

[James Steele]

I predict the high level of almost unbearable bitching will continue on TPWW for at least another 500 episodes of RAW.

[#1-norm-fan]

I'd be more interested if Rocky cost Cena the match which led to the Rock/Cena II.

Twice in a lifetime.

Seriously though, I can't think of a way they could actually make that match and make it seem like Rock has a chance of winning again.

[#1-norm-fan]

Or maybe that's not necessary. Maybe the Cena fans getting their way after all the tears shed the year before is enough. I don't know.

[Fox]

It's not so much that, it's the fact that the default answer "to cure SuperCena" is a heel turn.

He doesn't have to go heel to change up his character and be less boring, repetitive, and predictable. Hogan's turn was kind of "what else can we do with him?" He had been a heel, but that was before he was a household name, whereas Cena's BEEN heel before while in the spotlight... that's pretty much how he made a name for himself. His face turn came because he was the hot new thing that everyone got behind (much like Ziggler, people want him to turn face SOOO BAD).

Changing sides is way too much of a kneejerk reaction. Sometimes it makes sense, but other times, you don't have to turn someone face/heel to make them fresh. It's not him being a face that has run its course, it's the whole "overcoming the odds, even when it makes no sense to do so" thing.

Cena turning heel won't fix that. And THAT is what people need to grasp.

I understand that this is your opinion, and opinions aren't supposed to be right or wrong, but yours is simply wrong.

Sorry.

[ClockShot]

For the record, totally called AJ getting married.

[Big Vic]

This has to be the first raw to not make it to 10 pages in awhile. weird for it being Raw 999

[Feed me!]

Is it me or do them tag team belts look tacky as fook?

[Tom Guycott]

I understand that this is your opinion, and opinions aren't supposed to be right or wrong, but yours is simply wrong.

Sorry.

So, you're saying a character overhaul is IN NO WAY possible without a heel/face turn?

Are you also saying there is no chance whatsoever that if he were to "embrace the hate" (forgoing the boatloads of cash and surefire PR machine), he still wouldn't be taking 3 finishers to the bare floor and hopping up at "9" to beat the count back in the ring like he simply took a slap in the face?

He will already still have his "you can't wrestle" detractors, along with those who are burnt out on him always doing the same shit (X-Pac heat) and the blind haters who hate simply because disliking Cena is the cool thing to do. A heel turn won't change all that, nor will it automatically make him more compelling in and of itself.

Inversely, he changed up a bit in his feud with Punk (less jokes and "happy-go-lucky", more focus and aggresson, and full Boston accent in his promos), and that was a step in the right direction without depriving the 7 year old "Little Jimmys and Jennys" of their hero.

[Gonzo]

Twice in a lifetime.

Seriously though, I can't think of a way they could actually make that match and make it seem like Rock has a chance of winning again.

Valid point. Better yet, seeing as how Rock said he would be champion again one day or whatever, they could have held out and had Cena cash in had Rock won the title. Someone probably already said this but whatever.

[Big Vic]

Hope Rock goes for the WHC instead of the WWE. I know he said WWE but he could just say he changed his mind.

[#1-norm-fan]

The WHC is seen as the second rate title now. No way Rock goes for that one.

[James Steele]

This RAW is going to kick ass. Huge returns, Huge builds to "dream matches", a wedding that will no doubt end in a huge clusterfuck of memories for wrestling fans for generations, and a WWE Championship match that will probably be awesome and you can't predict a winner easily. Oh and did I mention...
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