Supreme & Tazz Dan Present The Official RAW THREAD 9|24|12 "Savior dances with Brodus and the Funkateers"

[#1-norm-fan]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SERIOUSLY GIDDY RIGHT NOW

[GD]

No! No! No! No!

[KyleEmmott]

HOLY SHIT.

[Corndad]

Well that explains the clean win over the IC Champion tonight.

[Cool King]

What the fuck, Ryback?

[PullMyFinger]

FEED HIM MORE! FEED HIM MORE! FEED HIM MORE!

[Tom Guycott]

No. Just no. Please don't hotshot Skippy to the world title picture. Please?

[Fignuts]

Well, that's Gertner's pants , ruined.

[#1-norm-fan]

Holy shit... you don't think...

Could this be the beginning of a build to Lesnar-Ryback at WrestleMania?

[KyleEmmott]

I honestly was not expecting that at all. Maybe this is Ryback getting thrown into the main event scene.

[Cool King]

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[Emperor Smeat]

Pretty interesting twist with Ryback there. Thought for a moment it might have been Lesnar with Heyman on his side.

[PullMyFinger]

WWE will probably hotshot the Ryback vs. CM Punk match for ratings when he wins the WWE Title, a la Goldberg vs. Hogan!

[#1-norm-fan]

Pretty interesting twist with Ryback there. Thought for a moment it might have been Lesnar with Heyman on his side.

Yeah. I was thinking Lesnar.

[KyleEmmott]

I thought it was Lesnar & Heyman.

[dronepool]

Wow. This could good or lame... Ryback better not win.

[Crazy Nick]

Pretty decent show tonight.

[#1-norm-fan]

I mentioned how awesome it would have been if Ryback came out at the end of SummerSlam and spent months trying to convince Lesnar to come back and face him at WrestleMania. Obviously didn't get my hopes up because there was no chance of that happening.

All of a sudden it seems possible and now I DESPERATELY want Ryback vs Lesnar at Mania.

[Cool King]

Maybe Ryback is a backup incase Cena isn't healed by Hell in a Cell, so they're getting him into the main event scene now?

It just seems weird to have him enter the IC Title scene and a possible fued with The Miz last week and then this week he beats him clean and is now randomly staring down CM Punk.

[KyleEmmott]

I think it'll be Ryback vs Punk at HIAC, I always thought Cena wouldn't be healthy in time.

[Tom Guycott]

I seriously hope not. He hasn't had ONE meaningful feud since recovering from injury and appearing as Ryback. People around here have bitched and moaned about Bryan getting into the main event scene so quickly, but because Skippy is a musclebound freak, it's A-Ok to do the same with him. Even worse, because all he's done is been fed jobbers... Jinder Mahal and Jack Swagger included. Now he gets "a" win over Miz and gets to stare down Punk?

C'mon, son. Too rapid of progression. People will grow bored of the one dimensional Goldbergian monster if he has nowhere else to climb.

Hope this is kind of a one-off, and that something else progresses from it.

[Tom Guycott]

... and honestly, I thought it was Foley, up and pissed and armed. And that it was going to be Punk/Foley at Hell In A Cell, giving Punk that legendary Foley rub and taking place of the Punk/Lawler angle.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, legit thought it would be Foley in a Cactus Jack shirt, with a barbed wire bat.

[dronepool]

... and honestly, I thought it was Foley, up and pissed and armed. And that it was going to be Punk/Foley at Hell In A Cell, giving Punk that legendary Foley rub and taking place of the Punk/Lawler angle.

This.

I thought the same.

[Fignuts]

Or Dude Love.

Dude Love would have been even better than Ryback.

[Tom Guycott]

I'm not really KNOCKING Ryback. I just think it's too soon. Way too soon. Like, our collective reactions to Katlyn being in line for the "Everyone Wins This Once" Butterfly Belt division.

[GD]

Ryback was responsible for one of the most amazing moments in NXT history.

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[Tom Guycott]

Punk looking at the fat ginger kid in disgust.

In truth, is there any other way?

[slik]

Ugh.

This was the best RAW in weeks until the end.

Just ugh.

They have HIAC, SuSe, TLC, RR and EC before WM. They have to think long-term. You don't put the Goldberg rip-off in a feud with Punk unless he wins. If he doesn't it kills his push. If he does win it means he has to defeat Rock at the RR and go on to WM and face either Cena or Undertaker.

Ugh. I need Ibuprofen. So, so stupid.

What horrible booking.

[slik]

Is it that hard to figure out how to book towards Punk/Rock, Cena/Taker and HHH/Lesnar?

Jesus.

[James Steele]

Ugh.

This was the best RAW in weeks until the end.

Just ugh.

They have HIAC, SuSe, TLC, RR and EC before WM. They have to think long-term. You don't put the Goldberg rip-off in a feud with Punk unless he wins. If he doesn't it kills his push. If he does win it means he has to defeat Rock at the RR and go on to WM and face either Cena or Undertaker.

Ugh. I need Ibuprofen. So, so stupid.

What horrible booking.

FFS, it just started. They can easily have Ryback lose without killing his push. If anything, they need to have Ryback lose so they can get past the undefeated gimmick and actually start developing him into something more. You mean to tell me if Ryback looks like a fucking beast in Hell in a Cell in his first real marquee match against the WWE Champion and loses either by being heelishly outsmarted or some crazy finish that it would ruin him?

Is it that hard to figure out how to book towards Punk/Rock, Cena/Taker and HHH/Lesnar?

Jesus.

Maybe...just maybe...WWE is going to do something unpredictable and different?

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Maybe that's not what they're planning.

DID U THINK OF THAT

[Supreme Olajuwon]

JAMES STEELE PROBABLY THOUGHT OF THAT

[Supreme Olajuwon]

and can type much, MUCH faster than me

[slik]

They aren't subtle with their booking.

I hope, personally, he loses and goes the way of Tensai's push.

Big wrestlers who have "OMG POWER MOVES AND CAN'T BE BEAT" are boring because they focus on that rather than developing a personality for the individuals. I didn't care for Goldberg for the same reason.

[slik]

Maybe...just maybe...WWE is going to do something unpredictable and different?

Buyrates for the biggest show of the year? No. That will be planned out and while I prefer Rock/Punk, Cena/Taker and Lesnar/HHH I'm guessing we'll get saddled with Cena/Rock II and Taker/Lesnar.

[Poit]

So is AJ getting fired for the slap or are they ignoring that Vickie situation?

Heyman isn't a current WWE employee. He's just an associate of Punk.

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm not really KNOCKING Ryback. I just think it's too soon. Way too soon. Like, our collective reactions to Katlyn being in line for the "Everyone Wins This Once" Butterfly Belt division.

It's never too soon for a diva to get a title shot. lol. The division is a joke.

Ryback is dominant. He doesn't have to win the world title yet. There's nothing wrong with him suddenly being in the picture. It's a breath of fresh air. A new face that actually has some credibility and isn't just in it to get jobbed out to the "real" main eventers.

[Fignuts]

Tellin you guys though, they missed a golden opportunity to bring back Dude Love in that last segment.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Dunno guys. Prolly should watch more than a 10 second staredown before we break out our jump to conclusion mats.

[Skippord]

CM Punk seems to want a lot of blowjobs

[Skippord]

CM Punk believes in Sabermetrics

[Savio]

Punk vs Sheamus was the dark main event Sheamus won by DQ after punk hit him with the title. Got brogue kicked from behind and had to be (kayfabe) dragged out of the arena.

[Skippord]

Team Friendship is way better

[Skippord]

combining Damien Sandow and Cody Rhodes may be the best thing to ever happen to me

love those dudes

[James Steele]

I'd imagine "Rhodes Scholar(s)" is trademarked.

[#1-norm-fan]

Ugh.

This was the best RAW in weeks until the end.

Just ugh.

They have HIAC, SuSe, TLC, RR and EC before WM. They have to think long-term. You don't put the Goldberg rip-off in a feud with Punk unless he wins. If he doesn't it kills his push. If he does win it means he has to defeat Rock at the RR and go on to WM and face either Cena or Undertaker.

Ugh. I need Ibuprofen. So, so stupid.

What horrible booking.

lol Jesus

They didn't force their own hand into a Punk vs Ryback match. It simply planted the seed for Ryback in the main event. It could just as easily be a way of getting to Ryback vs Lesnar via Punk's Heyman link which would be a MUCH better option than Lesnar-HHH 2 at WrestleMania.

I'm usually the first one to talk about how shitty the booking it but this was an incredible way to end Raw. It introduces a new face into what was becoming, despite the PPV matches, a pretty bland 2 man main event scene. Not just a random new face but a face that is the most promising new face to be introduced to the main event scene in a long time. There's a ton of questions to answer and a ton of intrigue and to just jump to "UGH, HERE COMES PUNK VS RYBACK NOW. SO STUPID." is ridiculous.

[#1-norm-fan]

FFS, it just started. They can easily have Ryback lose without killing his push. If anything, they need to have Ryback lose so they can get past the undefeated gimmick and actually start developing him into something more. You mean to tell me if Ryback looks like a fucking beast in Hell in a Cell in his first real marquee match against the WWE Champion and loses either by being heelishly outsmarted or some crazy finish that it would ruin him?

Ryback definitely should not be losing though. Maybe Lesnar interfering and destroying him... leading to a few false finishes as he just won't stay down.

Even then though, the best option is to keep him looking unbeatable. He's fragile right now. They need to book him to where any loss he suffers is absolutely earth shattering and there's a really good reason for it.

Moot point though because I highly doubt that's where they're headed with this.

[#1-norm-fan]

combining Damien Sandow and Cody Rhodes may be the best thing to ever happen to me

love those dudes

Rhodes needs a character. The "disfigured" Cody Rhodes thing actually added some depth to him. Now he's kinda back to being CAWdy Rhodes and teaming him up with a guy who actually does have a great character isn't exactly gonna help.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Team Friendship is way better

Team Hell-No was the best of the three. Team Friendship would have been funny for a little while, but "Hell No!" is a great combination phrases team name like Air Boom was.

[Cool King]

Yeah and Air Boom was a horrible name too.

[Cool King]

I've just remembered that Air Boom was chosen by the fans too.

[Cool King]

The fans shouldn't really be allowed to choose tag team names.

[#1-norm-fan]

The fans shouldn't really be allowed to choose tag team names.

The WWE shouldn't be allowed to choose the 3 options.

"What do you want the following match to be, WWE universe? Will it be a one fall match... a no DQ match... or a STEEL CAGE MATCH? YOU have the choice!!!!!"

[#1-norm-fan]

And yeah, Air Boom is a shitty name too. I don't remember the other options but I'm guessing it was something like...

A. KingBourne
B. Flying Wrestlers
C. Air Boom

[Cool King]

The other choices were:

Flight Club
Dreadlock & Load
Boom Raiders
The Wing Men
The Boom Squad
The Kingston Duo
Fly Guys
The Bourne Supremacy
Altitude Era
The Legion of Boom

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2011-08-22/kofi-bourne-need-name

All were pretty bad names, but out of that list, I like Altitude Era.

[#1-norm-fan]

lol "The Kingston Duo" and "The Bourne Supremacy"

Completely shit on the other guy in the team.

[#1-norm-fan]

Bleh. I guess I would have gone with The Boom Squad.

[owenbrown]

OH NO SOMEONE IS QUESTIONING THE POTENTIAL PUSH OF THE GREAT AND ALMIGHTY RYBACK GERTNER AND SHISEN KOPF ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BOTH HAVE CORONARIES RIGHT NOW

[Damndirty]

Always a fan of Double Trouble Don't Give A Crap On A Stick (Gunn & Show)

[Savio]

The 2 people that jumped the barricade looked like deuche bags (head bands, face paint), one barely got over and was stopped right away.

[Schlomey]

Fell asleep during the opening segment of raw last night so I'm watching an hour before my work day begins. Kofi vs dolph could be match of the week.....rare for me to like a kofi match.

[Wehttam]

Maybe Ryback is a backup incase Cena isn't healed by Hell in a Cell, so they're getting him into the main event scene now?

bingo

[Gertner]

Ugh.

This was the best RAW in weeks until the end.

Just ugh.

They have HIAC, SuSe, TLC, RR and EC before WM. They have to think long-term. You don't put the Goldberg rip-off in a feud with Punk unless he wins. If he doesn't it kills his push. If he does win it means he has to defeat Rock at the RR and go on to WM and face either Cena or Undertaker.

Ugh. I need Ibuprofen. So, so stupid.

What horrible booking.

He's not a Goldberg rip off you fag. I hope someone drags you behind their truck.

[Gertner]

combining Damien Sandow and Cody Rhodes may be the best thing to ever happen to me

love those dudes

Their team name is fucking fantastic.

[Savio]

Why is everyone saying Ryback will face Punk at HIAC?

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

They're assuming it because he came out at the end of RAW and stared Punk down, I'd be all for it tbh.

[Savio]

WTF I didn't see that?...gif please?

[Tommy Gunn]

Ryback hasn't had a (televised) match go longer than 2 minutes yet, don't blow your load too fast, WWE bookers!

[Savio]

If it was a backstage segment, it wasn't shown to the people in the arena.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I noticed there was no pop when they panned to him. Of course I knew there was no way the crowd could see Ryback and not pop like CRAZY, so the only explanation was that he was not on the screen.

[Big Vic]

Confirms it: http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/news/256251

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I remember being at a Raw in the mid 90s when they just had the big RAW letters and a tiny little screen in front of it and while the Undertaker was wrestling, Diesel was backstage destroying his casket. But we couldn't see that screen so we had no idea. Then when I was watching Superstars or Livewire or whatever it was they recapped Raw and I was like HOLY SHIT HOW DID I MISS THIS THIS IS HUGE

[Supreme Olajuwon]

Apparently WWE doesn't even think the end segment was that big of a deal because there's barely a mention of it on the website. No headline, no photo. There's a just a little blurb at the end of the Raw results.

[Keith]

At various points last night, I actually thought Mick Foley would challenge CM Punk for Hell in a Cell, or viceversa.

[Rammsteinmad]

I liked the Ryback/Punk staredown. It takes me back to the days when I was a mark and literally anyone could "challenge" the champion. Screw anyone being all like "urgh, Ryback's not ready" blah blah blah.

Ryback is a fucking machine! He's a huge fucking beast, and he's gone from squashing jobbers to basically standing up to the WWE CHAMPION CM PUNK in a staredown that oozed of "FUCKING BRING THIS SHIT ON NOW!"

I liked it. :y:

[Rammsteinmad]

Also pretty certain if that last backstage segment was shown on the screen to the live audience, there'd have been a huge pop for Ryback.

P.S. What was with Foley literally dying? Did I miss something? I thought Punk just took his leg out.

[Ultra Mantis]

Looked like Punk kicked him in the shin and it rendered him unconscious somehow.

[Ultra Mantis]

I assume this is why indie wrestlers usually wear kickpads.

[Savio]

Also pretty certain if that last backstage segment was shown on the screen to the live audience, there'd have been a huge pop for Ryback.

P.S. What was with Foley literally dying? Did I miss something? I thought Punk just took his leg out.
Yeah it wasn't everyone thought it was over, half the people left before the dark main event.

Although I think having the fans not see it added a bit of something to that segment that I liked.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I liked the Ryback/Punk staredown. It takes me back to the days when I was a mark and literally anyone could "challenge" the champion. Screw anyone being all like "urgh, Ryback's not ready" blah blah blah.

Ryback is a fucking machine! He's a huge fucking beast, and he's gone from squashing jobbers to basically standing up to the WWE CHAMPION CM PUNK in a staredown that oozed of "FUCKING BRING THIS SHIT ON NOW!"

I liked it. :y:

yeah remember when they got like 3 weeks out Spike Dudley vs. Stone Cold

that was gold

[#1-norm-fan]

God, that thing with Brodus getting all pumped up and running at Show only to get knocked out was so fucking terrible. If we wanna talk about facepalm worthy booking...

[Rock Bottom]

I don't think they want Ryback to miss a good Mark Henry feud on the way up. He did just beat The Miz though. Which is no surprise, but it means he's worked his way up from no-names.

[Rock Bottom]

God, that thing with Brodus getting all pumped up and running at Show only to get knocked out was so fucking terrible. If we wanna talk about facepalm worthy booking...

lol

The whole thing was really awful.

[Innovator]

I didn't mind Brodus's Ryan Bader tribute.

[#1-norm-fan]

I minded him looking like an idiot. They were doing so good with the fun loving but badass babyface thing with him for a while. They'd rather make Big Show look like a monster again for a month or two than give a little effort into the long-term character build of someone else. Terrible.

[Lock Jaw]

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[Lock Jaw]

Followed by

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[Gertner]

Are you sure that picture wasn't Clox trying to get $10,000