Ermaximus presents a Shisen Production: 10-01-12 Raw Thread, RYBACK Will Rule You or Punk is the Main Course!

[Skippord]

honestly at some point maybe JR should stop coming to Oklahoma

[ClockShot]

So is this what the rumor mill eluded to when legends are gonna show up each monday. To convince Punk to take the match?

[Corndad]

Heymans gonna be on commentary. Sweet.

[Skippord]

is Punk threatening to murder JR?

[Skippord]

why would Punk be afraid of Ryback

guy can't even lift Tensai

[Rock Bottom]

this music is fuckin terrible

[ClockShot]

Ryback's back for seconds.

[Corndad]

Hot Shit.

[Rock Bottom]

ryback ehel? lol

[CSL]

Ryback has a rape face

[Keith]

LOL what are they chanting?

[#1-norm-fan]

Two simple staredowns and this Ryback-Punk shit is fucking incredible.

[Corndad]

Love Heyman "You get paid to fight, no fights for free." "Show him the belt" lol

[Emperor Smeat]

So Ryback really is Plan B in case Cena can't be ready in a few weeks.

The Punk-JR stuff was pretty good.

[Wehttam]

LOL what are they chanting?feed me more

[#1-norm-fan]

So Ryback really is Plan B in case Cena can't be ready in a few weeks.

I hate to say it because I love Punk's reign but if they do end up going Ryback vs. Punk at HIAC, Ryback should win. He's so fucking money right now. He can't lose.

[#1-norm-fan]

Unless of course they use it to set up Lesnar vs Ryback at Mania. Even then, it's gotta be done perfectly.

[McLegend]

Are we sure RYBACK can pick CM Punk up?

[Rock Bottom]

Ryback hesitated so long it made me entertain the possibility of him being heel, which is incredibly markish. Not bad.

[Rock Bottom]

If anyone understands more than 10 words in Kofi Kingston's theme song I'll rep you

fuck this guy for real

[Skippord]

Ryback hesitated so long it made me entertain the possibility of him being heel, which is incredibly markish. Not bad.
me too, thought he was gonna lariat JR's head off for a second

[CSL]

Kofi's pectorals are still "mad weird"

[Emperor Smeat]

I hate to say it because I love Punk's reign but if they do end up going Ryback vs. Punk at HIAC, Ryback should win. He's so fucking money right now. He can't lose.

I'd go the other way but make it that Punk barely retains and genuinely fears Ryback to the point he tries everything to not have a rematch occur unlike his more mocking of Cena right now.

It boosts Ryback's image and gives him at least someone who won't be just a squash since he needs some legit competition for feuds.

[#1-norm-fan]

Are we sure RYBACK can pick CM Punk up?

My grandma could pick CM Punk up.

[Tom Guycott]

Ryback hesitated so long it made me entertain the possibility of him being heel, which is incredibly markish. Not bad.

me too, thought he was gonna lariat JR's head off for a second

As did I. Especially with the matching attire.

[Fignuts]

Anyone gots a stream?

[Cool King]

lol JR.

[#1-norm-fan]

I'd go the other way but make it that Punk barely retains and genuinely fears Ryback to the point he tries everything to not have a rematch occur unlike his more mocking of Cena right now.

It boosts Ryback's image and gives him at least someone who won't be just a squash since he needs some legit competition for feuds.

Losing to Punk even barely could destroy Ryback's "aura". They've got the potential for a future megastar and it's based around the scary as fuck aura of Ryback. If he loses to Punk, even in an intense, close fight, he loses that.

[CSL]

Anyone gots a stream?

rep sheet

[Skippord]

I am a fan of AJ's refereeing outfit

[Tom Guycott]

She should skip circles around Kane again. Perfect bookends.

http://i.minus.com/igSKC5aoE0QnW.gif

still makes me happy

[Tom Guycott]

I am a fan of AJ's refereeing outfit

I'm not a fan of stripes, but in this case, I am making an exception. :y:

[Eklipse]

Dat ass...

[Rock Bottom]

If AJ were a hermaphrodite and revealed she had a dick a lot of those guys would be really confused and upset especially Kane

[Cool King]

15 years?

Damn I'm old. :(

[Corndad]

I am a fan of AJ's refereeing outfit

:y:

[#1-norm-fan]

If AJ were a hermaphrodite and revealed she had a dick a lot of those guys would be really confused and upset especially Kane

I wouldn't be confused. I'd be all over that hermaphrodite cock!

[Damndirty]

If AJ were a hermaphrodite and revealed she had a dick a lot of those guys would be really confused and upset especially Kane

I don't think most of them would care.

[Krimzon7]

Jesus, I'm making a cameo appearance to let you know how much I'd love for AJ to wrap her lovely thighs around my face for a little pussy eating pleasure.

[Rock Bottom]

Damn, this match is pretty good

[Damndirty]

I wouldn't be confused. I'd be all over that hermaphrodite cock!

Seeing her slide around like that, I may not care either!:naughty:

[Damndirty]

I am pretty sure Vicky's gotta cock of her own.

[Corndad]

Awesome!

[CSL]

spot the indy guy going into a submission straight from a decent sized bump http://www.tpww.net/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

[Rock Bottom]

lol db and kane deserve credit

[Damndirty]

Raw's over, time for Family Guy!

[Tom Guycott]

If AJ were a hermaphrodite and revealed she had a dick a lot of those guys would be really confused and upset especially Kane

If AJ dropped a Bridget on us, I would absolutely be confused. And upset. And still aroused since she's so damned cute.

If she's a trap, she's a legendary one.

Strangely, I think Kane's character would dig that for some reason.

[Damndirty]

Ready for my drink to mark my next departure from TPWW for the next few months! Tah tah for now!

[Savio]

I liked how AJ was looking away while counting the three.

[GD]

I am loving Daniel Bryan and Kane as the tag team champions.

[GD]

I was also very attracted to AJ Lee's thigh region during the main event.

[Lock Jaw]

Not even Ryback could get Tensai over.




.... Get it?

[GD]

Not even Ryback could get Tensai over.




.... Get it?

Awwwwwwwwwww shit bro!

[Lock Jaw]

Best part of RAW was when they said that JBL would be back next week. :y:

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm not okay with Brodus Clay turning into a jobber.

Fucking retarded.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, that was kind of odd. I don't mind him losing to people... but not in a squash match against a much smaller individual.

[#1-norm-fan]

Also, really sick of the WWE Champion losing in non title situations so much. Especially a guy who has held the title almost a year. He's lost a ton of matches. It doesn't make him look strong because he's the champ. It makes him look like he's the champ because it just so happens the title isn't on the line during his plethora of losses.

[#1-norm-fan]

I do wonder if that might have been setting up Ziggler being inserted into the picture so instead of just Ryback-Punk as a backup plan to Cena, it can be Punk vs Ryback vs Ziggler. That would mean Punk could retain and Ryback could not be beaten.

Would be a horribly predictable outcome and suddenly not a very intriguing match but it seems possible now.

[MIZantine Empire]

Lol did anyone else hear the little kid during the breast cancer thing saying "I love titties"? Lol

[#1-norm-fan]

No. I will be looking for it now though. Thank you.

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. "I like titties!"

[MIZantine Empire]

lol. "I like titties!"

Lol ya I almost missed it.. Then I kept saying it and couldn't remember where I heard it. God bless rewind

[Gass]

Anyone catch JR say to Cole "Why don't you give the reveal..." and then abruptly shut up during the backstage segment just before the main event?

[KaosDarksol]

So I have a feeling AJ is going to let punk choose his opponent between John cena and ryback and he will pick cena

[Cool King]

Anyone catch JR say to Cole "Why don't you give the reveal..." and then abruptly shut up during the backstage segment just before the main event?

Yeah, I heard it.

I think he was talking about AJ being revealed as the referee. Instead, Cole done it when he said his "Oh My!" or whatever it was that he said when AJ's music played.

[Hanso Amore]

If AJ were a hermaphrodite and revealed she had a dick a lot of those guys would be really confused and upset especially Kane

Back off my gimmick

[Hanso Amore]

Also, really sick of the WWE Champion losing in non title situations so much. Especially a guy who has held the title almost a year. He's lost a ton of matches. It doesn't make him look strong because he's the champ. It makes him look like he's the champ because it just so happens the title isn't on the line during his plethora of losses.

Yes because losing random tag matches when your partner bails on you makes Heels look weak.

Have you ever seen an effective Heel that won every match?

Punk isnt a monster Heel like Lesnar. He doenst need to win every match.

You should really watch Flair in the 80s if you think a Heel Champion needs to win every match to be booked solid.

[Gertner]

Ryback got a louder reaction then CM Punk ever has. That was crazy.

[Hanso Amore]

Remember when Flair used to pretty much job out to anyone on WCW television when he was champion?

That made him WEAK.

Shit, I remember watching WCW WorldWide and watch him defend his title week after week against the likes of HARD WORKING BOBBY WALKER and CRAIG PITTMAN and JIM POWERS and whomever else was in that shitty Teddy Long Stable at that time.

He made them all look like Sting.

[Hanso Amore]

And at the end of the day, he found a way to keep his title and the heat kept coming.

[Mr. Pierre]

Since Austin won't be competing at Mania, it leaves Punk as the "odd man out" so to speak. After RAW though, I realized that if they're careful with how they book him, Ryback should win the Rumble and take the belt off of Punk at Mania. For an established guy like Cena or Rock to end this reign would be a missed opportunity to put over a new star. The slow build would be tremendous. I mean, it's only October, and those people were going nuts. I say you stretch this out until April and make it mean something. With that, I think Mania's top matches can look something like this:

WWE Championship: CM Punk (c) vs. Ryback
-Ryback wins Rumble, text book story, make a new star.

Streak: The Undertaker vs. John Cena
-It wouldn't be rocket science to set this match up, and it would deliver on every level.

The Rock vs. Brock Lesnar w/Paul Heyman
-Lesnar/Punk have a loose alliance on the RTWM due to their business relationship with Paul Heyman. Lesnar costs Rock the Championship at the Rumble against Punk, and you have yourself a huge grudge match between two huge stars. Would be a great staple to the show.

Also: Rey vs. Sin Cara

[James Steele]

For some odd reason, I really want to see Triple H vs Dolph or Triple H vs Wade Barrett at WrestleMania. It would be a tremendous match to cement one of them as a "main event guy" and the build/storyline would be easy to do. Dolph is an arrogant shithead who pisses off HHH or Wade Barrett makes fun of Triple H for being weak and a shell of a man (and then decides to elbow him in the face to let him know that Wade Barrett is now "The Cerebral Assassin")

[James Steele]

I really hope they wait on Dolph cashing in. Imagine Dolph beating HHH in a brutal match at Mania and then cashing in to win the World Title later that night.

[ron the dial]

Ryback got a louder reaction then CM Punk ever has. That was crazy.
except when punk outpopped dx! just ask kane knight!

[DAMN iNATOR]

I really hope they wait on Dolph cashing in. Imagine Dolph beating HHH in a brutal match at Mania and then cashing in to win the World Title later that night.

I don't believe anyone has cashed in at any of the "Big 4" PPV's yet. Having the first such cash-in at Mania would be the obvious route to go though, definitely.

The problem is, right now they've got Sheamus with the WHC, who, let's face it, has become pretty bland over the past 6 months with it. And I really just can't even get into the idea of Big Show facing him for the title. I want it to change hands eventually, I just don't think Show winning a main-event title a 5th (?) time would do anything for him or for SD! or the WHC.

Also, can't wait to see McIntyre whenever he finally has his 1st singles match on RAW or SD. Been way too long since I've heard
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:love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love: that shit.

[Shadrick]

out of tiiiiiiime, so say goodbyyyyyeeeeee, what is youuuuuuuurs, now iiiis miiiiiiine

[#1-norm-fan]

Yes because losing random tag matches when your partner bails on you makes Heels look weak.

Have you ever seen an effective Heel that won every match?

Punk isnt a monster Heel like Lesnar. He doenst need to win every match.

You should really watch Flair in the 80s if you think a Heel Champion needs to win every match to be booked solid.

When he loses so often, yes it does make him look week. It was worse when he was a face. Granted it hasn't happened as much since he turned heel but when your CHAMPION constantly loses, it does stand to reason that you should think "... why the fuck is he still champion?"

Flair did not get pinned that often at all in the 80's. I don't even know where that thought came from. lol. They also didn't have "HUGE" tag matches pitting the main eventers on a weekly basis because the lazy bookers didn't wanna think of a creative way to build heat. But that's neither here nor there.

[#1-norm-fan]

Remember when Flair used to pretty much job out to anyone on WCW television when he was champion?

That made him WEAK.

Shit, I remember watching WCW WorldWide and watch him defend his title week after week against the likes of HARD WORKING BOBBY WALKER and CRAIG PITTMAN and JIM POWERS and whomever else was in that shitty Teddy Long Stable at that time.

He made them all look like Sting.

lol. What the fuck are you talking about?

How many times did Bobby Walker, Craig Pittman and Jim Powers pin Ric Flair?

[DAMN iNATOR]

out of tiiiiiiime, so say goodbyyyyyeeeeee, what is youuuuuuuurs, now iiiis miiiiiiine

YES! YES! YES!

[James Steele]

lol. What the fuck are you talking about?

How many times did Bobby Walker, Craig Pittman and Jim Powers pin Ric Flair?


Yeah. It was the territorial days, so the thinking was quite a bit different. Flair made the territory's top guy look good because that guy had to stay in the territory to draw while Flair/NWA Champion moved onto the next territory in a few weeks. Even then, they usually just either went to a time limit draw or won via DQ or something.

[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah. It was the territorial days, so the thinking was quite a bit different. Flair made the territory's top guy look good because that guy had to stay in the territory to draw while Flair/NWA Champion moved onto the next territory in a few weeks. Even then, they usually just either went to a time limit draw or won via DQ or something.

On WCW television though...

[#1-norm-fan]

Who cares what happened in the territories? It was a completely different thought process and no one outside of there knew the wiser. Ric Flair was not jobbing on WCW television to these guys.

[Triple Naitch]

I don't believe anyone has cashed in at any of the "Big 4" PPV's yet. Having the first such cash-in at Mania would be the obvious route to go though

Del Rio cashed in last year at SummerSlam. The DAMN iNATOR computer has been really struggling lately.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Even my advanced hardware makes miscalculations sometimes. :shifty:

[Flash Funk]

Quick thoughts:

Agree with Punk choosing to face Cena over Ryback. But then Heyman could tell Ryback that his client will still fight him at HIAC. Ryback in the ring, Heyman says you wanted to fight my client, here he is...out comes BROCK LESNAR. The two brawl all over the arena before eventually being separated. Could set up Ryback/Cena vs. Punk/Lesnar at Survivor Series.

[James Steele]

Who cares what happened in the territories? It was a completely different thought process and no one outside of there knew the wiser. Ric Flair was not jobbing on WCW television to these guys.

That's what I was saying. The thought process behind the heel champion being booked like that worked back then but makes no sense now.

[#1-norm-fan]

Oh alright. I thought you were saying Flair lost regularly and used that to back it up.

I remember Flair losing to Brad Armstrong via DQ on an episode of Worldwide I believe. He also regularly beat Armstrong though. It does stand to reason that there would be a crazy upset here and there but if you're a champion you should be an expert at escaping those situations.

No one wants to see an MMA or boxing main event between two guys who lose on a regular basis. You have the ability to script your outcomes. You should be able to easily make characters that people want desperately to see get beat and characters that people want to see beat the assholes.

[James Steele]

Yeah. It was the territorial days, so the thinking was quite a bit different. Flair made the territory's top guy look good because that guy had to stay in the territory to draw while Flair/NWA Champion moved onto the next territory in a few weeks. Even then, they usually just either went to a time limit draw or won via DQ or something.

[#1-norm-fan]

Lost regularly/was regularly made to look on par with guys perceived as below him.

[Lock Jaw]

If AJ were a hermaphrodite and revealed she had a dick a lot of those guys would be really confused and upset especially Kane

I wouldn't be confused. I'd be all over that hermaphrodite cock!

http://i.imgur.com/xzsdf.png

[#1-norm-fan]

:yes:

[owenbrown]

I think this should be Gertner's new avatar.... because he is taking trolling to new levels

http://forums.murdernetworks.com/customavatars/avatar11453_1.gif

[Tommy Gunn]

I like how they gave Sandow his first singles loss by having a long match mostly in control of the World Champion, it made him look amazing. Such a strong showing for someone who hasn't been on the main roster for long.

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm glad he finally lost a match! I don't buy him as an "undefeated" guy.

[Fignuts]

So apparently Tensai wasn't sandbagging, and Ryback legit, just couldn't get him up.

[Gertner]

I think this should be Gertner's new avatar.... because he is taking trolling to new levels

http://forums.murdernetworks.com/customavatars/avatar11453_1.gif

I think RYBACK should end your fucking life.

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://i.imgur.com/xzsdf.png

Either there’s something else, besides the fact that she’s crazy, that A.J. Lee hasn’t been telling the fans, or that procedure was REALLY recent and she’ll soon be featured on Jerry Springer, OR she really needs to remember to keep her vibrator/strap-on in her office. :shifty: