Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D Season 6

[Kalyx triaD]

"It's a magical place."

[Kalyx triaD]

I imagine the couple from Item 47 will show up eventually.

[loopydate]

Trailer debuts during the Once finale this weekend, right?

[Kalyx triaD]

I heard that too, not too sure though.

[Rammsteinmad]

I'm excited for this, as I am all Marvel films and programs. I hope this series has a big enough budget that we get to see the helicarrier in it, and maybe even the odd cameo or two.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[Corporate CockSnogger]

The very first clip there, of the guy jumping out of a window with a girl in his arms. Paused it and it looks like a black guy, so possibly J August Richards. Does that give any sort of clue who he might be? Guess it doesn't really show whatever his "power" is in much detail other than he can jump out a high building and land on his feet with no problem.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not Luke Cage, I think... I'm digging through my inner Marvel database...

[The Destroyer]

I dunno, I can't think of anyone else who'd fit the bill, super powers wise.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Maybe he's not playing a character who is traditionally white?
Or maybe it's not even J August Richards in that little clip and someone else.

[The Destroyer]

Re-casting races never goes down well with comics fans. See the recent rumours that a black actor was in the running for Johnny Storm in the Fantastic Four reboot for proof.

[Kalyx triaD]

Link that one.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

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[Lock Jaw]

Could be Luke Cage.... uhhhh... Black Panther..... or... another black hero!

[Raven Reaper]

Considering I don't really watch tv shows these days aside from TSCC and Walking Dead, I might consider this on my watch list.

[Lock Jaw]

What is TSCC?

[Lock Jaw]

Wait, Terminator? That isn't exactly "these days".

[Blitz]

Link that one.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/62237

Michael B. Jordan of Chronicle. Would be good casting.

[Kalyx triaD]

Hmm...

[Asmo]

Looks interesting, especially since its packaged like a movie trailer rather than a TV series trailer. Any one know what's the planned duration for each episode?

[VSG]

Considering I don't really watch tv shows these days aside from TSCC and Walking Dead, I might consider this on my watch list.

Are they airing TSCC now in the Philippines? If so, you are in for a nasty shock :'(:'(

[Raven Reaper]

Nope. It was 4 yrs ago..

[Kalyx triaD]

Looks interesting, especially since its packaged like a movie trailer rather than a TV series trailer. Any one know what's the planned duration for each episode?

I'm thinking hour (44mins), that's Whedon's pedigree.

[Inadequacy]

In regards to the superhuman featured in the video I read an article somewhere pointing out that a panel featuring Rage had been added to the marvel intro.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, a New Warrior I believe. Seems like a Bargain bin Hulk, then again he could be remixed for the show and just be a super strong dude.

[Kalyx triaD]

The extended trailer, features more of Skye the hacker:

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[Kalyx triaD]

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[Corporate CockSnogger]

So, a couple of sites are running with the story that J August Richards hinted that he won't be playing a traditionally black character. Here's the interview. I guess he sorta hints at it, but sorta just keeps quiet too. Dunno, not really much to say anyway but whatever.

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[Rammsteinmad]

Would be awesome if some kinda low-level team was developed in this series (maybe a New Warriors type). Then after phase two is over, the main threat of phase three, assuming a third Avengers movie will be the end of it all, could have the Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy and the New Warriors all teaming up to face one massive threat. That'd be pretty neat if they could pull it off.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Pilot episode is getting shown in full at comic con apparently. Beware/be on the look out of spoilers everywhere in the next couple of hours.

[Kalyx triaD]

Maria Hill will return.

[parkmania]

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[Kalyx triaD]

And now I need to see Agent May vs Black Widow.

[Kalyx triaD]

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[The Destroyer]

Part of me is really scared that this is going to be terrible.

[Kalyx triaD]

Healthy fear is fine.

[Kalyx triaD]

This is totally happening right now. Im in ER right now so enjoy it for me!

[Lock Jaw]

My thoughts on the season premier: Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads.

[Miotch]

Ugh. That was bad.

[dronepool]

I thought I'd dislike it but I dug it.

[The Destroyer]

Ugh. That was bad.
Not helping my fear. I'll find out for myself on Friday I guess.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I liked it, it wasn't groundbreaking but it was fun and sets the series up well. It's probably going to be getting compared to the films a lot which isn't really fair, but give it time and I'm fully confident we'll get typical Whedon character advancement as time goes on. You can already see several of his character templates. I'm glad they just come out and reference everything from Avengers straight up rather than the winking and nodding that was going on a bit in Iron man 3. I get why they did that in Iron Man, I just prefer it this way.

[Reavant]

what was the explanation for coulston being alive?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

what was the explanation for coulston being alive?

He claims he was only dead for 8 seconds, and that Fury faked his death to spur on the Avengers, while Coulson spent a while chilling in Tahiti in hiding.

Then we get a "He really believes that Tahiti story, huh?" from some other characters so there's something more to it that's being covered up. So that'll be one of the shows ongoing arcs.

[Shadow]

COULSON LIVES!

Until we're told he's actually the Vision and Coulson's brainwaves and memories were uploaded into it.

[JimmyMess]

I enjoyed it. It has been too long since I watched a show actually on its premiere. I'm going to give this one a shot!

[Miotch]

So putting some more perspective into it, I'll give you something other than "Ugh. That was poor."

I think the show has potential. The dialogue was at an almost terrible level and outside of the Asian woman I thought most of the actors were really rough. Even Coulson doesn't seem to mesh with the style and feel of the show. He just feels really out of place.

I did like the tie in to Iron Man 3 with the antagonist, though, and I can see it getting better as time goes on.

[Lock Jaw]

I wish they would have just gone out and made Gunn be Luke Cage. Seemed kind of like a "half-measure". When they teased the thing with Sky with him going public and stuff, thought for sure it was leading to Heroes for Hire and was like "Damn, they are really going all out with this thing EXCEPT for actually calling him Luke Cage"

[Schlomey]

I thought he was Luke Cage for a hot minute.

[Lock Jaw]

I think there was a shot of Sky deleting him from various databases and stuff, so theoretically he can still be set up with a "new identity".

[Lock Jaw]

I really hope that they get a rival organization to feud with. Hydra/AIM/Leviathan/H.A.M.M.E.R. or anything.

[The Destroyer]

Hmm. It was alright I guess.

[Adder]

pretty stale imo

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I'm willing to let it develop before passing my final judgement upon it.

[Ruien]

It was enjoyable. Next episode will be the make or break. 100 times better than Sleeping Hallow ><.

[YOUR Hero]

Missed the start of the episode. Was it pre or post Avengers?

[Fignuts]

Post

[YOUR Hero]

Hmmm.

So the centipede thing, was that alien technology from the battle that a doctor formulated or??

[Optimus Bone 69]

Hopefully gets better

[Shadow]

Hmmm.

So the centipede thing, was that alien technology from the battle that a doctor formulated or??

Not sure yet. As of now, it contained every single thing that makes up a superhero to date including Extrimus that was introed in Iron Man 3.

[Asmo]

Anywhere I can watch it online?

[Schlomey]

Hulu

[Kalyx triaD]

I loved this.

[Tom Guycott]

My only complaint about very first episode is the overuse of the word "weird".

[JimmyMess]

I'm looking forward to this tonight... however there is also the start of the NHL season... and I am in the stone age with no pvr

[Tom Guycott]

On a side note, I like how Coulson has become like the new Harley Quinn; as in, he was such a minor character in the onset as a tie leading into Avengers, and now he's snowballed into beloved cannon.

[JimmyMess]

On a side note, I like how Coulson has become like the new Harley Quinn; as in, he was such a minor character in the onset as a tie leading into Avengers, and now he's snowballed into beloved cannon.

I was like "he's fucking the joker?!" lol... not really... but I laughed

[Lock Jaw]

Much better episode this week. I can see myself coming to really like this show.

Marked out at the end.

[Raven Reaper]

Just starting with the pilot episode. Officially hooked as much as when TSCC Season 1 came out in 2008.

[dronepool]

Episode 2 was probably better than episode 1, cool. Nick showing up was nice

[Corporate CockSnogger]

It's definitely gonna get better once the characters become more fleshed out, we see some of their backstories and there's a longer story arc, but I'm already enjoying it immensely. Hope they continue to have the occasional cameo here and there. Guessing they'll bring someone in for the season finale, but hopefully for the odd episode throughout as well.

My one tiny gripe is that Coulson is a million times better as a comic relief character than as an authorititative figure.

[screech]

Missed a part at the end because my dog stepped on the remote:

What did the message Sky got during the launch say?

Really enjoying the show so far, even with the super cheesy dialogue.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

The message said

"Rising Tide in a holding pattern
Planning to go dark
What is your status?"

To which she replied
"I'm in."

[Shadow]

What is the Rising Tide? What are their goals, what are their plans? These are questions that I've asked myself from day one. Are they trying to bring SHIELD out into the light? Pretty sure they are. Are they trying to expose to the people that there's a secret organization that basically runs the whole world? Pretty sure nobody really cares and if they did, they'd be glad someone's there to defend them from threats of that magnitude.

Be interesting to see how this develops.

[Miotch]

Really liked the second episode.

[JimmyMess]

just watched it.


SAMUEL L. FUCKIN' FURY

[YOUR Hero]

Hope it gets better, it is showing some promise

[Tom Guycott]

"IT HAD A BAR! A really nice one..." :'(

[Kalyx triaD]

Loved Fury popping up.

[XL]

I'm enjoying it so far.

[Shadow]

GRAVITON LIVES!

[Lock Jaw]

Cool, just looked him up, didn't know he was from the comics.

Looking forward to the hopefully inevitable ep where he gets loose and comes after Coulson, blaming him for what he has become.

[Blonde Moment]

Looking forward to seeing this happen.
Think Coulson might be a clone rather then a LMD. Really do not want him to eventually end up being the Vision

[Shisen Kopf]

I gave it a chance...more like Agents of S.U.C.K.. Very boring. Bring back Parker Lewis.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Decent enough episode. Felt it lacked something the first two had though.

[Raven Reaper]

For a minute there, I was expecting Skye's first heel turn on them.

[Inadequacy]

When Fitz was all "We just need a tiny monkey" the Simmons was all like "Oh Fiiitz" it made it spun like "tiny monkey" is something he suggests often.

Hilarious.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah the monkey thing was 'WTF lol'. He was dead serious about it, too. Even mentioned it would be a brave monkey.

...And now I need to see SHIELD Monkey. I mean somewhere in that universe is a talking Raccoon ffs.

[Lock Jaw]

Hit Monkey

[loopydate]

Looking forward to seeing this happen.
Think Coulson might be a clone rather then a LMD. Really do not want him to eventually end up being the Vision

The whole "muscle memory" thing with the guns makes me think that's the way they're headed.

[Tom Guycott]

When Fitz was all "We just need a tiny monkey" the Simmons was all like "Oh Fiiitz" it made it spun like "tiny monkey" is something he suggests often.

Hilarious.

Yeah the monkey thing was 'WTF lol'. He was dead serious about it, too. Even mentioned it would be a brave monkey.

...And now I need to see SHIELD Monkey. I mean somewhere in that universe is a talking Raccoon ffs.

Is it odd the first thing I thought about was Monkey (as in, Dial M For Monkey) from Dexter's Lab? Even could drop a joke about getting him from some super intelligent little kid with a lab hidden in his house.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I wish to do devilish things to Sky(e), but other than that, I'm still waiting for the show to grab me.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I'm liking it enough, but there's definitely something not doing it for me. Trying to put my finger on it.

None of the characters are good at all yet, but I know that'll come good with the Whedon's and Tanchareon, so I've been giving that a free pass really. Guy playing Ward is an extremely wooden actor, seems terrible. Not a fan of Fitz and Simmons yet, finding them kind of annoying which is weird cause "adorable, quirky nerd" is pretty much Whedon's forté, think I'd prefer it if there was just one of them really. Also when anyone else refers to them both as Fitzsimmons just seems awkward.

Kinda wish there was a bit more physical diversity in the main cast other than "attractive brunette"

Dunno, no real thought process going on here, just trying to work out what's not fully doing it for me.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I'd be completely behind them killing off Ward and replacing him with J August Richards character as a "reformed asset" or whatever and leave out the obvious, forced foreshadowing of a romantic plot. He and Skye already had better chemistry anyway, and he's a much better actor.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Quite frankly they should kill off the two scientists and replace them with Alexis Denisof and Amy Acker (:love:), and as you said, replace Ward with Richards. Maybe David Boreanaz could make an appearance....

[Tom Guycott]

Not a fan of Fitz and Simmons yet, finding them kind of annoying which is weird cause "adorable, quirky nerd" is pretty much Whedon's forté, think I'd prefer it if there was just one of them really. Also when anyone else refers to them both as Fitzsimmons just seems awkward.


Likely intentional. I would assume they're referred to collectively because there will likely be an eventual scenario where they're split up, and can't function without the other. They both make one excellent scientist in tandem. Apart, they suck.

My problem with them is the clashing dialogue in "actual" arguing instead of "overlapping" when they bicker (so you can actually hear what they're saying instead of it just being two man crowd noise). Also, Fitz needs to dial down the accent a bit. It's cool when he's the only one talking, but in rapid fire conversation, it becomes a sound hurdle.

And about the J. August thing... it's only been a couple episodes. Give it time, I'm pretty sure they'll put him to use. Especially considering they put all that effort into the whole "unemployed" angle.

[Kalyx triaD]

Actually Fitzsimmons are both talking in their native accent.

[Fignuts]

In my opinion, they should be using the marvel license to its fullest extent. How many shows are out there about a secret government agency investigating weird out of the ordinary stuff?

The marvel license is what sets this apart from all the others. I wanna see characters that we know won't make it in the movies.

Taskmaster is a great example. He would be perfect as the lead villain, as part of his shtick is that he trains people to become super villains. From that you could have a bunch of lower level villains like whirlwind and the claw show up, revised to fit into the marvel movie verse.

[Ruien]

In my opinion, they should be using the marvel license to its fullest extent. How many shows are out there about a secret government agency investigating weird out of the ordinary stuff?

The marvel license is what sets this apart from all the others. I wanna see characters that we know won't make it in the movies.

Taskmaster is a great example. He would be perfect as the lead villain, as part of his shtick is that he trains people to become super villains. From that you could have a bunch of lower level villains like whirlwind and the claw show up, revised to fit into the marvel movie verse.

This is what I figured the show would be like. Still have my hopes, especially after the last episode.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

And about the J. August thing... it's only been a couple episodes. Give it time, I'm pretty sure they'll put him to use. Especially considering they put all that effort into the whole "unemployed" angle.

Yeah I know. Pretty sure he'll come back at some point. What I'm saying though, is that it should be in the place of Ward who is awful.

[Skippord]

Ward is pretty rough

want to touch Skye's boobs

[owenbrown]

I gave it a chance...more like Agents of S.U.C.K.. Very boring. Bring back Parker Lewis.

He can't lose

[Lock Jaw]

Loved this week's ep. Hopefully setting up the "big bad" rivals for S.H.I.E.L.D.

[Kalyx triaD]

What's up with S.W.O.R.D, though...

[Lock Jaw]

Was S.W.O.R.D. mentioned?

[Kalyx triaD]

No, not yet,

[Lock Jaw]

So.....? Why bring them up? Is something supposed to be "up" with them?

[Kalyx triaD]

lol S.W.O.R.D. was Joss Whedon's creation during his Astonishing X-Men run, they're essentially a space SHIELD counter-part. It's very likely he'd introduce them on the show in some form.

[Blonde Moment]

I would guess that at this point in time in this earths history there has not been a need for it yet.

[Kalyx triaD]

New York was attacked by aliens, led by an alien/god guy who we met a while after his brother's hammer fell from the sky. Through a wormhole.

I'd be surprised if S.W.O.R.D. wasn't being put in place.

[Shadow]

Hello...Slingshot.

Where else would you throw dangerous, but still viable, weaponry?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Another okay episode. Again, nothing mind blowing but fun enough. Really liked the start with the guys in the red masks, and the twist at the end with the fat computer guy having the tech in his eye too.

I know it's only 4 episodes in, but they need to start giving us more on this threat. Right now we're just getting tiny, vague fragments of information that a threat's out there. Don't even know if all these hints are about the same threat as they're all that vague.

Right now we have a technologically advanced organisation who are pretty much dealing with everything in front of them with ease, as they should. Need a reason for them to be underdogs and to actually care about any tough situations they're put in, which would mean they need to come up against someone/thing stronger which essentially means either superpowers or a group more technologically advanced need to make themselves known, at least to viewers if not to SHIELD within the show. Tiny hints here and there probably won't keep viewers.

Anyway, the characters were a little less annoying in this episode, still don't particularly care about any of them much aside from Coulson and maybe May. The rest could pretty much be swapped out for cardboard cutouts.

[Raven Reaper]

And I almost had a hard time watching the rogue agent's eye surgery stuff.. Ouuch.

Skye's complete lack of gun training was just pure LOL.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah you'd think her training would come back to save her like the disarm last episode, instead she got owned.

Also the rogue agent (kinda) chick could end up with an eye patch like you know who.

[Boondock Saint]

This show could be so much better than it is. The writing tonight was just laughable.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Yessss Julian from One Tree Hill. Hot teen drama represent.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Much better episode. Starting to actually get a story now and a bit of character development.

Ward's still terrible.

[Shadow]

Ward is always gonna be terrible. But at least we know what Skye is doing on the team now.

Now what does Shield have to do with her I wonder.

[dronepool]

Cool episode, that fatality was pretty a nice surprise.

[parkmania]

Anyone else think that
Rising Tide has something to do with HYDRA?


Also, love the nod that their plane is SHIELD 616.

[Lock Jaw]

Dunno. All this show is doing for me at the moment is "ruining" the "special" feel that the superheroes/villains had in the "world".

Also, it makes me feel very "weird" seeing the "wider Marvel Universe" and not have Mutants being a part of it. Felt "odd" that they had to try to awkwardly find some sort of explanations for Scorch other than "he's a mutant".

[Kalyx triaD]

Nothing they can do about it, but we know Gifted is just their term for Mutants so whatever - the narrative payout is the same.

Kinda in love with the flower dress chick. Too cute.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I just hope it doesn't go the way of Heroes and become a clusterfuck of undeveloped and uninteresting characters who just have cool looking superpowers and abilities.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

And you know, generally being shite.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'd hope that for any show really.

[Shadow]

Possibly. I'm not ruling it out but I'm also thinking Centipede has something to do with them. Or perhaps an Empire or a Horoscope-themed organization. The list of people who Shield has pissed off is endless.

Also, I have a feeling that Slingshot thing doesn't send shit to the sun. It sends things to SWORD.

[parkmania]

I'm thinking both Centipede and RS are parts of the whole. And since I was unaware of SWORD I took it at face value.

[Miotch]

Those suits they captured SCORCH in looked like A.I.M. suits to me, which would fall in line with their work with Extremis.

[Lock Jaw]

I wonder if Centipede and the group who is behind the eye cameras are the same people.

I hope not. Centipede seems kind of "meh", while the eye camera people were cool.

[Kalyx triaD]

Good catch there.

[Tom Guycott]

I just hope it doesn't go the way of Heroes and become a clusterfuck of undeveloped and uninteresting characters who just have cool looking superpowers and abilities.

To be fair to Heroes, it seemed like it was going to do great things before the writer's strike totally derailed that show. You'd think after taking a hiatus, they'd go back and research a show that's already in progress and not just kinda stumble about like it's brand new.

[parkmania]

The problem was that as soon as the strike was over, the deadlines to get SOMETHING on the air were ridiculously tight. The networks were so afraid of losing market share to whichever show got "back on the air" first that they expected the writers to churn stuff out NOW!

[Tom Guycott]

Same thing happened to Life. If it had time to breathe, it could have went in such grandiose (yet interconnected) directions. Instead, it's like they blew it up and tried to start the show over.

On topic:

I had a thought a few days ago. I think Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. would be an awesome way to incorporate The Flight Program. It would not only satisfy a wet dream of mine (Alpha Flight was actually my gateway drug into comics), but it would add some notable mutants without any "X" restriction entanglements, yet have enough people who don't have to break the bank with actual powers that need to be visually exploitave.

I mean, neither Hudson has any powers without the suit. Puck isn't technically a mutant either. Neither are Shaman or Talisman. If they include her on the hero side, Diamond Lil wouldn't break the bank in CG'ing effects. They're human enough to be relatable on the level the show is going for with "regular people in a newly recognized superhero world".

They could make a big deal about tracking down Sasquach, and SHIELD gets beat to the punch. You know, allow some insight into one of those "other" organizations alluded to that aren't an offshoot of Anonymous or the clandestine big bad they're building. It would make sense cannonically, as Guardian was supposed to be Canada's answer to Captain America. Hell, they could even weave in the story about Guardian getting killed and launch a joint op investigation while Heather puts the suit on to "Vindicate" her husband.

Also, Aurora and Northstar become huge sex symbols if they're cast right.

[Kalyx triaD]

Alpha Flight are in Marvel's 'Mutant' side of things so yeah Fox most likely has them on lock as well.

[Tom Guycott]

Possibly, but none of them were introduced... even back from Generation X, let alone any of the X-MEN/Wolverine franchise films even as easter eggs. They don't neccessarily have to delve into dealings with Logan or mutant registration unless they get referenced somehow in Days of Future Past.

Also, most of "powers" of the team can be explained away merely for the sake of the show by some triggering event (as in, not dormant until manifested through puberty, so to speak), enchanted item, or just plain science. Hell, Marrina is an alien, and aliens were already established with The Avengers. Her rise and fall is a story arc right there (following the same path as the example I gave above with trying to "contain" Walt, just with her instead), and she isn't such a "major" character where changing what ultimately happens to her will incur the wrath of fanboys the world over. Most people in todays climate of being introduced to people just from the movies will likely not even know who she is.

I mean, if you go overboard with including people like Snowbird AND Box AND Sasquatch AND the twins you may start raising issue, but *most* of the people I mentioned can fit in without any mutant dna explanation at all. Besides, it isn't neccessary to include the whole team. Guardian and/or Vindicator and maybe up to 4 more is good, and you can still eliminate any mutants from the lineup- just put over Department H as another organization of people in suits who took notice from "The Battle of New York".

[Kalyx triaD]

It's not first come first serve, it's a package deal.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Just read that the Nov 19th episode will be a Thor: Dark World crossover. No guest appearances from any of the big guns apparently, but more that it'll be the team cleaning up some of the mess from the film.

Minor Thor 2 spoilers...
Kinda hope it's them hunting the Frost beast that's left running round London (and that it eats Ward). Would be a bit different seeing them fighting a genuine monster.

[Kalyx triaD]

Love the idea of episodes dealing with movie events either concurrently or presenting fallout. Should make the Winter Soldier 'tie-in' interesting since that deals more directly with SHIELD, and it may be a season finale thing. Things are getting hype.

[Inadequacy]

Your forgot the most important part: the episode will be directed by Star Trek TNG's Jonathen Frakes

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Your forgot the most important part: the episode will be directed by Star Trek TNG's Jonathen Frakes

TEH BEARD!

[Blonde Moment]

Your forgot the most important part: the episode will be directed by Star Trek TNG's Jonathen Frakes

Looking forward to it

[YOUR Hero]

Has this show been cancelled yet?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The ratings are lowering, but I don't think its in any risk right now. Disney owns Marvel and they know tv exposure is good for their movies. Problem with the show is people getting adjusted to the fact that its about real people in a world with superheroes. It's the people who are usually behind the scenes. If the audience can accept that they will be fine. It would be a mistake to unload alot of superheroes on the show. The show is about the team not the Avengers.

[Tom Guycott]

The ratings are lowering, but I don't think its in any risk right now. Disney owns Marvel and they know tv exposure is good for their movies. Problem with the show is people getting adjusted to the fact that its about real people in a world with superheroes. It's the people who are usually behind the scenes. If the audience can accept that they will be fine. It would be a mistake to unload alot of superheroes on the show. The show is about the team not the Avengers.

You know, I would also mark out if they worked in Damage Control into this show.

[YOUR Hero]

It's not jut that it's about people behind the scenes and not super heroes or people with powers. Its that the acting is quite awful.

[Kalyx triaD]

Is it now?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

It is a bit. I'm all for giving this show time and I'm going to continue watching since I'm a huge Whedon fan and I'm fully invested in the marvel cinematic universe, but lets not look at this show with tinted glasses, its got a long way to go before its a good show and one of the main problems is the core cast. There's very little chemistry between any of the characters right now and one member of the cast in particular is ridiculously wooden.

Not exactly expecting The Wire or Breaking Bad levels of acting bit right now its leaving a fair bit to be desired.

[parkmania]

It is a bit. I'm all for giving this show time and I'm going to continue watching since I'm a huge Whedon fan and I'm fully invested in the marvel cinematic universe, but lets not look at this show with tinted glasses, its got a long way to go before its a good show and one of the main problems is the core cast. There's very little chemistry between any of the characters right now and one member of the cast in particular is ridiculously wooden.

Not exactly expecting The Wire or Breaking Bad levels of acting bit right now its leaving a fair bit to be desired.

This. Do people remember how bad the acting was for the first season of ST:TNG? Go back and watch some of the first eps and then compare that to 3rd or 4th season and tell me there's not a world of difference.

And the blame can't he hung solely on the actors. The writers, directors, and producers all have to get comfortable in their positions.

[Shadow]

Does anyone remember the way Buffy started out? Very awkward. Same with this show. Give it time to grow and I think it might surprise people.

[Rammsteinmad]

So far I'm not really enjoying it. I'll watch every episode anyway, since it's Marvel, and I feel it's all part of "the big story" of the Marvel Movieverse, but overall I've found a lot of the episodes to be pretty boring, and the acting is pretty rubbish.

Would prefer it if it was about legit, S.H.I.E.L.D. agents working behind the scenes in coherence with the movies. Having amateur field agents/kids/hackers etc doesn't really seem that interesting.

[Tom Guycott]

Does anyone remember the way Buffy started out? Very awkward. Same with this show. Give it time to grow and I think it might surprise people.

People were kinda spoiled with Firefly. Pretty quick chemistry there. And we can all agree Ward is nothing remotely close to Mal. In acting or being a good character.

Also, people aren't really developed yet. You have to note they're creating compelling nobodies from the ground up in a world where the wholly established cannon has at the very least two decades or more of backstory. No easy feat. Compare this to, say, Arrow, where half the cast is someone the hardcore audience has at least an inkling of who they are expeced to be and what they're like. The closest we come with this group is Coulson, who has at most 10 minutes of total screen time pre-Avengers.

Skye, even before her revelation there, has the most personality thus far. In acting, she works it- as a character, she's gotten the most exposition for who she is, how she thinks, what her motivations may or may not be. Nobody else has come close to being really fleshed out thus far except maybe Agent May and her reluctant badassery. Ward shifts too much between "specialist" to complete baffoon, Coulson's just in charge, and Fitz/Simmons are like siblings/lovers of; which one is a germophobe.

Yes, Whedon's name carries with it not only built in apologists (of which I'm partly to blame) but built in lofty expectations as well (this *better* be as good as Firefly/Serenity, Buffy, Angel, Dr. Horible, and Avengers, and not so much Dollhouse.) But again, this show just started, and is really just mortar between the bricks of the movie franchises associated with it; glorified webisodes in a sense, with made-up people in the vein of Rise of The Imperfects.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Dollhouse was great once it got over the hurdle of having the main character not have any memories of each episode, which granted was about 5 or 6 episodes in. Which again is another reason I'm going to stick with the show. But right now, no excuses, it's not as good as it could be considering all the potential it has.

I'm enjoying it enough. I don't hate it or anything that's going to stop me watching it, but it's just not all that gripping right now really.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Was the Diner that Skye and Gunn met the same one he took Fred to in Angel?

[Shadow]

More then likely.

Ironbite-this is the Whedonverse after all.

[Kalyx triaD]

Curious cover for the show. Could be nothing, but hell if it didn't cross people's minds.

https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/487417_597464430318409_1551563578_n.jpg

[parkmania]

Y'know, I just realized something:

The show feels a lot different if instead of comparing it with the Marvel Cinematic Universe you think of it as a variation on The X-Files where we KNOW that aliens exist.

[Kalyx triaD]

Or an X-Files that focuses on Skinner and his staff.

[Destor]

Let me preface this: i am a hardcore Whedonite and junkie so i will watch this show every week till it goes away. HOWEVER i do not enjoy this nearly as much as i wish i did. Outside of sky i dont care about any of them none of them mesh with one another AT ALL coulson is painfully over pushed ad the writing is flat out bad. *sigh*

like shadow said though buffy wasnt buffy right out of the gate and mutant enemy always reacts to the fanbase. mid season break/season 2 will see this show start adapting to what it can be, or at least i hope. either way im here for the long haul.

[Asmo]

FZZT was refreshing. More so than the previous episodes. Could be because there was more Fitz and Simmons, and minimal Sky.

[Shadow]

Can I ask for Ward to get an actual character? We're starting to see that but god damn it I want more then the occasional flash.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

That was a much better episode for me. Like Asmo said, it might've been the shift in character focus. It just seemed a more well rounded episode that had a little bit more to it than a typical "case of the week" episode. Made me actually care about Fitz and Simmons, rather than them just being a bit of an annoying side act. Easing off on Skye was a bit of fresh air for the show too.

The writing definitely is still a bit off though, there seems to be zero wit in any of the comedy beats in comparison to pretty much all Whedon and all Marvel projects.

Fully with Destor though, its got too much potential and too many good people behind it to not improve greatly.

[Destor]

one thing about the premise though is they can easily add and remove people with out the integrity of the show being jeopardized. it isnt reliant on anyone honestly even coulson (though they want it to be for some reason.) so this show has potential to completely reinvent itself countless times if it needs to.

[YOUR Hero]

Much better episode last night.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

one thing about the premise though is they can easily add and remove people with out the integrity of the show being jeopardized. it isnt reliant on anyone honestly even coulson (though they want it to be for some reason.) so this show has potential to completely reinvent itself countless times if it needs to.

Such as completely replacing Ward with J August Richards' character, or well... anyone, I agree!

[Destor]

I WAS CRUSHED WHEN HE WASNT PART OF THE CAST AND JUST A ONE OFF.

[Destor]

#givegunajob

[Kalyx triaD]

HE FUCKING TOUCHED LOLA

Also, I am so down for Melinda May vs Black Widow. It seems Agent May's reputation surpasses even Romanoff and Barton, and it may be a curb stomp - but I wanna see that fight, even as a one-off spar for fun.

[Blonde Moment]

HE FUCKING TOUCHED LOLA

Also, I am so down for Melinda May vs Black Widow. It seems Agent May's reputation surpasses even Romanoff and Barton, and it may be a curb stomp - but I wanna see that fight, even as a one-off spar for fun.

I am very curious about her backstory

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I WAS CRUSHED WHEN HE WASNT PART OF THE CAST AND JUST A ONE OFF.

He could come back. He got the Night Night gun not killed.

[parkmania]

Now THAT was a good episode! Please give us more like that. Hopefully we'll be able to stop losing viewers and get a second season!

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Yessss, J August Richards is back. Now all they have to do is kill off Ward and use J August Richards as the muscle of the group and I'll be satisfied with where the show's heading.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BalzRJNCAAAhzQK.jpg:large

[Corporate CockSnogger]

God damn black people just don't age. He looks no different than he did during Angel.

[McLegend]

He looks older.

[parkmania]

THAT was FUCKIN' AWESOME!!!








But now we have to wait 4 weeks for the follow-up.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Good episode. Probably the first time they've got the whole cast involved heavily while also giving the guest actors and villains ample time too. I much prefer having a recurring villain rather than monster of the week episodes. I even quite liked Ward this week. I was fully expecting him to be a lovesick puppy around May so it was good to see him shun her. I think Skye may have surpassed him as the least interesting character now, so good for him. The Coulson dying thing is reeeeeally dragging on though. The sooner they reveal that and get past it the better in my opinion. I'm far beyond caring how he survived now.

Got a feeling they're gonna drag out the inherently obvious plot of May being Skye's mother (or at least being the agent that dropped her off) on for too long too.

[screech]

I was hoping they'd have revealed Coulson's survival by now so they could focus on one "big reveal" at a time. Especially since that secret goes back to the movie.

[parkmania]

So are we all pretty settled that Centipede is a version of HYDRA?

[Miotch]

Still think it's A.I.M.

The suits in the fire episode looked like A.I.M. suits, and Extremis ties in with A.I.M. and Iron Man 3.

[Asmo]

So, what's the verdict on 'The Magical Place'? Avoiding any spoilers at the moment.

The episode was paced very well. Probably the second best of the series, post 'FZZT'. It didn't answer all the questions, but being the mid-season premiere, managed to raise a lot of others to keep interest and buzz going.

Also, the operation scene was painful, scary and the edgiest scene to be shot for a Marvel property.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Yeah, really good episode. I like that Fitz had a bit if an edge to him. Would like to see that develop gradually. Ward might even be growing on me a bit.

[Shadow]

Skye actually had a character this time around. And Mae, she fucking played Hand so hard it was like she was fucking her.

[ClockShot]

Alright, now circle the differences.




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[parkmania]

Anyone else think that

If we ever see Mike Peterson again, he won't appreciate having been left behind in the desert?

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, was wondering why SHIELD wouldn't try to recover his body.

[Inadequacy]

They mentioned someone's burnt remains which they assumed to be Peterson.

[parkmania]

If that's true (I don't remember hearing it, but I trust you), then that's a MAJOR oversight by SHIELD, since if it was his body there'd be traces of the Centipede hardware.


But the more I think about it, the more I'd be interested in seeing how long he could be "made" to be a mole for them on Coulson's team.

[Rammsteinmad]

Damn that was a good episode. Took the series a while to get going, but things are starting to get interesting.

[Shadow]

I think the next time we see Mike he'll be known as Deathlock.

Which will rule.

[parkmania]

You mean this guy?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F7ZVyerjV9E/UYcI8GaFKFI/AAAAAAAAOm0/lRYIKBmBXhE/s1600/2012Leeds-deathlok.jpg


Yeah, I can see the resemblance. But I'm not sure since he was a member of X-Force if they're allowed to use him.

[JimmyMess]

that looks like red skull kano

[Shadow]

You'd be wrong and Deathlok was a member of X-Force? I go wiki.

*wikis*

Huh....well as long as they don't call him Deathlok should be ok.

[Kalyx triaD]

I'm late but yeah, nice episode.

- Coulson's resurrection was kinda horrifying, and extremely sad. I just felt... bad. We need Fury's reasoning on this.

- Reyna is gorgeous, and her powers of persuasion are extreme. I honestly don't know if she actually cared about Coulson or not. The flower inquiry was rife with ship tease.

- Between May's swerve support and Skye's freudian cosplay I'm sensing something brewing between the two.

- Also, this is the first time I saw Skye as 'SHIELD Agent Skye'. Good job, girl.

- Not recovering Peterson's body was incredibly reckless to the point of SHIELD, as an entity, breaking character.

- Please give Reyna a Heel Face Turn, I love her.

[The Destroyer]

You'd be wrong and Deathlok was a member of X-Force? I go wiki.

*wikis*

Huh....well as long as they don't call him Deathlok should be ok.

He was a minimal part of X-Force and it wasn't even really the "true" version of the character, so I doubt he'd fall foul of coming under the X-Men in the film side of things.

That and he was only part of X-Force years after all the contracts would have been drawn up.

[Shadow]

Eh...hard to say what Fox will let go of. If he's part of anything X-Related it could be hard to actually call him Deathlok. So I don't know what they'd do.

But Mike will be back so I'm kinda happy.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Another very good episode this week. If anything it resolved more unanswered questions and in a better way than last weeks. Glad to see the show really beginning to find its feet now. The whole thing of Skye's parents didn't really appeal to me, but now knowing that she was an 084 is a much more interesting concept, and I'm genuinely intrigued to see where it'll lead.

They do however have a lot of balls in the air right now and you have to wonder if/when/how they're going to get round to resolving a lot of them. There's obviously The Clarvoyent and Centipede as the main threat but then you've also got Ian Quinn, Rayna, Mike Peterson, the kid from this week seemingly gaining ice powers and also Ian Hart's character whose name escapes me right now who are all connected to Centipede somehow. I'm sure they'll get round to sorting all that out, but hopefully they don't just throw out timid resolutions just to get the plots tied up.

[XL]

When does this come back in the UK?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I read it'll be back in March because Channel 4 want to show it all weekly without any breaks at any point.

Which makes me wonder why there's going to be about 6 weeks worth of sporadic breaks of the show in America.

[Lock Jaw]

WTF just checked, and the next episode isn't until the beginning of February. Whats the deal with the breaks, yo?

[VSG]

Typical US TV show schedules for the past 1-2 years have been horrid.

[DaveBrawl]

Yeah Elementary came back on January 2nd, ran 2 or 3 episodes and is off till early February too. Sad cause I need my Lucy Liu fix.

[Lock Jaw]

Damn, just read that Sif is gonna be on an upcoming episode.

[parkmania]

While ABC President Pat Lee, who was speaking to the Television Critics Association, stopped short of announcing that Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. will be back for a second season, he did mention that actress Jamie Alexander, who plays the Asgardian warrior Sif in the Thor movies, will make an appearance in the 15th episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., which is likely to air in February, and that Alexander’s role will not be a mere cameo, but will be “integral” to the episode.

The move to bring in another direct link to the Marvel movie universe appears to be an answer by the show’s creators to criticism from Marvel Comics fans, who want more elements of the Marvel Universe included in the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series.

Lee told the TCA that he felt “very good” about the prospects for the second half the show’s inaugural season, and Entertainment Weekly also reports that Lee promised the TCA that the identity of the mysterious “Clairvoyant” character will be revealed by the end of Season 1.


Really kind of wish that we DIDN'T yet get that. There's something to be said for "Leave them wanting more."

[XL]

I read it'll be back in March because Channel 4 want to show it all weekly without any breaks at any point.

Which makes me wonder why there's going to be about 6 weeks worth of sporadic breaks of the show in America.

Thought it might be something like that. No idea how you keep up with a show in the US with all the stop-start programming.

[parkmania]

The stop-start stuff is a fairly recent phenomenon, as least as extreme as it currently is. A part of it is explained fairly well in the following video starting at the 2:30 mark.

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[Lock Jaw]

Confirmed that J. August Richards will be Deathlok

[Kalyx triaD]

I am very hype for Sif's appearance. They should also have JARVIS and General Ross appear.

[Blonde Moment]

Its a shame the character isn't interesting enough to have its own series. Still awesome to see orgin story that took people by surprise

[JimmyMess]

I am very hype for Sif's appearance. They should also have JARVIS and General Ross appear.

A William Hurt cameo as Ross I would love to see.

[Shadow]

Confirmed that J. August Richards will be Deathlok

Not only that but...

But we'll have Sif and Lorelei showing up as well.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Stan Lee will be in the next episode. :D

[Lock Jaw]

Was expecting Skye's mutant abilities to kick in

[Shadow]

Me too.

[Krimzon7]

I am going t ogive this a second chance. I will try and find the eps on Hulu or just download them all and binge on them.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Yeah I was thinking Skye was gonna do some special power shit too. Probably good they held off on something like that, although I often hate it when characters get fatally wounded only to survive.

This is all really coming good now though. Every character has found their niche a little more and the plots are intertwining. The comedic beats are far better and Whedon-like than earlier in the series. The bit with Coulson and Ward trying to work the hologram table was like something straight out of Angel, and was great.

[parkmania]

I HAVE TO WAIT TIL MARCH 6TH FOR MOAR?!?!?!?


dammit.






I will say that I'm never a fan of the "let's show the same 5 minutes of activity from each character's POV", but I hated this one considerably less than most of this type of episode.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Do you get episodes on Thursdays instead? New episode March 4. Really strange how they are staggering the episodes. This is what.. the third significant break without new episodes?

[Shadow]

Last break was a midseason weirdness, then we had the President's speech and now we've got the Olympics. Yeah it is frustrating but there it is.

[parkmania]

Didn't research what day of the week it was, but I thought I heard March 6th. Gonna have to review the DVR to see just how full of it I am.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Last break was a midseason weirdness, then we had the President's speech and now we've got the Olympics. Yeah it is frustrating but there it is.

The Olympics are on NBC though. Confused.

[parkmania]

If you think enough of your demographic is going to tune in to the Olympics no matter what, why waste new episodes during that time?

[Frank Drebin]

Same reason for networks not to air new shows going up against the Super Bowl.

[Kalyx triaD]

Okay...

SHIELD's been dealing with some strange shit.

[Lock Jaw]

Was that "GH" torso thing supposed to be recognizable as something from the comic books?

[Shadow]

Speculation is ranging from an Ice Giant to an Atlantian to the Kree.

[Lock Jaw]

Kind of looked like "The Pale Orc" from The Hobbit movies. Maybe it is him.

[Kalyx triaD]

Kree is a good guess, that could lead to Ms Marvel. Skrulls aren't on their list of characters to use and Atlantean is more likely gonna be hosted by Fox than anything.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Couldn't really get into this episode for whatever reason. Thought a lot of the acting was really hammy and terrible, mostly from Clark Gregg funnily enough. Dont think he's too great at playing serious. I did have that worry prior to the show starting but I think this episode is the first time I actually noticed it heavily and it took me out of the story a bit.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Also the scene with this Triplett guy and Simmons was the single most cringeworthy thing I've seen on tv in a good long while.

[parkmania]

I'm wondering if that might have been Thanos. It would make sense if they're starting to build to an Infinity Gauntlet-based movie in Phase 3. There was speculation that the item Starlord is going after at the beginning of the Guardians of the Galaxy trailer is an Infinity Gem.

EDIT:

This
Asshole (Awesome, Abnormal, something else)
Humanoid
Is
Thanos
I.

[Lock Jaw]

Thanos was last seen alive and well and not a torso in a tube.

[Kalyx triaD]

Not to mention it's a fucking stupid idea.

[VSG]

ROFL if Shield has Thanos cut up and contained, the whole Avengers franchise is doomed.

[parkmania]

Ok, so I didn't realize we had seen Thanos somewhere in MCU already. Sorry I'm behind on my movie-watching.

I thought that there was a chance the guy could have been rendered unconscious somehow after a battle and kept catatonic to be used to harvest GH325 from until the mountain blew up.

[Lock Jaw]

Ok, so I didn't realize we had seen Thanos somewhere in MCU already. Sorry I'm behind on my movie-watching.

In that case.....


*Spoiler Alert*

[parkmania]

No worries. I still haven't STARTED watching Phase 1 yet. I'll probably forget about the spoiler by the time I get a chance to.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Oh and another 2 weeks without a new episode...

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

These constant breaks are annoying, same with Arrows current break, at least these are "hopefully" the last breaks until the season finales.

[parkmania]

At least the break for next week sees us get a special about the MCU.

[Shadow]

Yeah these breaks aren't really doing the show any favors.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Also Clark Gregg's unfortunate inability to act well in serious scenes isn't really helping much.

[JimmyMess]

Very glad I watched this episode tonight.

[Shadow]

HOLY SHIT!

[Kalyx triaD]

DEPARTMENT H
AGENT HAND
SHOOTING PRISONERS
DEATHLOCK FACE
OMG

[Lock Jaw]

This was probably the first ep of the series that had me "on the edge of my seat".

[Asmo]

How much of this ties in to CA:TWS?
And yeah, how many here buy in to The Clairvoyant being who they think / the series is making us think it is?

As a side quip, damn, i enjoy Agent Garrett.

[Kalyx triaD]

We now know why Stillwell will be on the ship in the movie, Simmons mentioned a commotion at the Hub, Coulson will not be meeting Fury.

[DaveBrawl]

Was really glad to see them use Deathlok's comic face for once, even if it was just briefly, that had been bothering me for a while.

Also Department H.

[JimmyMess]

http://www.thetriathloncoach.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/I-love-it-when-a-plan-comes-together.jpeg

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Forgot it was back but watched it on DVR. Great episode.



i knew that bitch Hand was evil.
Hell yeah Souter from Star Trek Voyager/Grima Wormtounge from LOTR.

[JimmyMess]

- I can definitely see Bill Paxton's character appearing in one of the feature films.
- I've seen Cap 2, and I am definitely looking forward to next weeks show.