The Big XBox Coming Out Party Feat. Don Mattrick (now XBone Discussion)

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://i.imgur.com/7V0mHao.gif

It's happening today, the big coming out party. The box comes out of the closet to get pounded. Streams will be on http://xbox.com and on your actual Xbox, you lucky bastard.


Ms were banging on about the reveal being in 2 parts: The hardware and features today, games at E3. That said, confirmed to be at the showing are FIFA, Call of Duty: Ghosts and McLaren are teasing that they will have something there.


Here's your sexy timetable of events over at Gametrailers:

May 21 9am PDT / 5pm BST: GameTrailers.com pre-show with Mr G. Keighley, Stephen Totilo, Jeff Gerstmann, Rob Smith
May 21 10am PDT / 6pm BST: Xbox - A New Generation Revealed keynote
May 21 11am PDT / 7pm BST: GameTrailers.com post-show with the Mr G. Keighley and Don Mattrick.
May 21 12pm PDT / 8pm BST: Twitch.tv post-show live show with Larry 'Major Nelson' Hyrb and co.




Worldwide times are up in this bitch: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=XBOX%3A+A+New+Generation+Revealed&iso=20130521T10&p1=1244

[The Rogerer]

No more Halo

[Drakul]

6pm? I thought it was revealed at 3pm. :?:

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Nope, it's at 6pm bull shit time.

[alvarado52]

WE BOUT IT ERRDAY ERRDAY ERRDAY


All i give a flying fuck about is is this "always online" shit.

[The Rogerer]

USHEEEEEEEEEER


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[Drakul]

I just want to see and hear about the console. What few games they've mentioned they'll talk about, I really don't care about.

[alvarado52]

CAN IT PLAY TETRIS!?

[alvarado52]

....ON ULTRA SETTINGS!?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I just want to see and hear about the console. What few games they've mentioned they'll talk about, I really don't care about.
Looks like I'll have to wait until E3 to get excited about either console. Knack looked interesting on PS4, but that was about it.

[ClockShot]

So this is like, 2:00 eastern time?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Worldwide times are up in this bitch: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=XBOX%3A+A+New+Generation+Revealed&iso=20130521T10&p1=1244

up in this bitch


up in this bitch

[Drakul]

https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/s720x720/972302_10151993644712224_318022558_n.jpg

:shifty:

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://www.destructoid.com//ul/254163-xtent.jpg

IT'S A FUCKING TENT GUYS HYYYPE

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The stream just kicked some music in and I may have shit myself. HYPE.

[Drakul]

That's not a tent, that's the actual console.

[Drakul]

The music sort of reminds me of the old Spider-man films. Just passing the time.

[alvarado52]

That's not a tent, that's the actual console.

:lol:


wait, Hasney youre actually AT the event?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

:lol:


wait, Hasney youre actually AT the event?

YEAH MAN.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Nah, I'm not really. Declined the invite. Said I had to wear pants or some other nazi shit so I stayed home.

[alvarado52]

Pants!? BUCK DAT!

[Drakul]

All this talk.

"Shut up and get to the point!" *Bender*

[alvarado52]

So lets see, im expecting to see:

-Console
-Controller
-Next Xbox Live iteration
-EA Sports games (Live, UFC, Madden)
-Call of Duty Ghosts
-MAYBE the next Halo?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Going to bum my TV by the sounds of it.

[Drakul]

I'll be pleasantly surprised if any games I want to play are announced.

[alvarado52]

They better flat out say wither this thing requires online or not.

[Blitz]

Feel like technological convergence is going to kill my love of gaming.

[alvarado52]

One!?

[Drakul]

It's a VHS recorder.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

XBAWKS ONE

[Blitz]

This conference is already shitting all over Sony by dint of actually showing the damn thing.

[Blitz]

Comes with a kinect, looks like.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

That's a sexy looking box.

[VSG]

Looks pretty good

[LoDownM]

Xbox One? Is that the name? I just got home and turned it on.

[Blitz]

Going to scream "XBOX GO HOME YOU'RE DRUNK" a lot.

Probably when I'm drunk.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Xbox One? Is that the name? I just got home and turned it on.

Yup

[LoDownM]

I don't care about this already... I dont need all these dumb features.

[VSG]

lol this voice prompt may get real annoying

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://abload.de/img/capturealuxt.jpg

[alvarado52]

Yeah, all this talking and arm flailing i could care less about.

[LoDownM]

Yup

GONNA GET CONFUSING WHEN REFERRING TO THE FIRST XBOX.

[VSG]

But does it run Chrome??

[#BROKEN Hasney]

WHY DOES THIS HAVE BETTER MULTITASKING THAN WINDOWS 8 METRO APPS.

[Blitz]

I'm not remotely convinced that this is gonna be anywhere near as smooth as they're portraying it, but this is still more useful to me than a share button.

[LoDownM]

Yawn... Thought this was gonna be all about the games?

Also, get your Windows 8 look outta my console :mad:

[Drakul]

Yawn... Thought this was gonna be all about the games?

Not until E3.

[Blitz]

Yawn... Thought this was gonna be all about the games?
You can't possibly be that naive.

[VSG]

WHY DOES THIS HAVE BETTER MULTITASKING THAN WINDOWS 8 METRO APPS.

lol pretty much what I was thinking. Fucking microsoft.

[Blitz]

But how do I flip through the channels aimlessly when I'm bored?

[VSG]

Also, can we postpone this TV interface shit to AFTER the gaming part?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yawn... Thought this was gonna be all about the games?

Also, get your Windows 8 look outta my console :mad:

You should have read my hard-hitting original post.




Ms were banging on about the reveal being in 2 parts: The hardware and features today, games at E3. That said, confirmed to be at the showing are FIFA, Call of Duty: Ghosts and McLaren are teasing that they will have something there.

[Blitz]

http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/1077703382_ngFHz-L.jpg

Closer to reality.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

The colonel of Windows 8. Finger lickin good.

[VSG]

lol so much BS

[#BROKEN Hasney]

ROCKET SCIENCE LEVEL SHIT YO

[#BROKEN Hasney]

New D-pad, that's nice at least.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Same membershit fee, of course.

[Blitz]

Audience clapping like monkeys for everything.

[LoDownM]

Well, YouTube is gonna get even more crowded now.

[Ermaximus]

No more MSP. Straight up cash purchases.

[The Rogerer]

Apparently its the MS crew that are clapping.

They are not coming out swinging.

[alvarado52]

Did they say anything about the GPU?

[Blitz]

Straight sleeping on NHL, fuck you EA.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

lol NBA Live. I'll believe that when I see it.

[LoDownM]

Straight sleeping on NHL, fuck you EA.

This.

[Ermaximus]

lol NBA Live. I'll believe that when I see it.

:lol: Shit will get cancelled a month before release because 2K makes a far superior product.

[LoDownM]

EA, I'm sure your new tech for your sports games are nice and all, but for the love of god can I get more than 4 years of stat tracking in your NHL games.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

CAN I JUST SEE SOME GODDAMN GAMEPLAY?

[Ermaximus]

At least they aren't charging you for an online pass anymore LoDownM. :roll:

[Blitz]

If I can actually do Pettis' cage jump kick in the next UFC, sold.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Yeahh... That wasn't in game. Go watch the last gen EA Sports reveals.

[LoDownM]

Sweet, another Forza game I'll lose interest in after the first week.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

I do love some Forza and Turn 10 don't usually bullshit their videos.

[Blitz]

Yeahh... That wasn't in game. Go watch the last gen EA Sports reveals.
Well I'm not stupid ffs.

[Blitz]

Quantum Break looks intriguing.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

That was weird, LIVE ACTION EAR GRABBING.

[LoDownM]

8 new franchises? Taking bets on how many of them "fail" because they sell 4 million instead of 10 million.

[VSG]

8 new franchises? Taking bets on how many of them "fail" because they sell 4 million instead of 10 million.

7 + NBA Live

[LoDownM]

Wait, what, CBS chick introducing 343? Halo TV Show?

[Blitz]

Halo TV series. Can't say I was expecting that.

[Ermaximus]

VSG, I'm going to slap you.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

And Steven Spielberg involved.

[LoDownM]

Well, the had me interested at Halo TV show, then ruined it with this.

[Drakul]

None of this is really worth talking about to the length they are.

[Ermaximus]

They'll market it to kids and make millions.

[Drakul]

Urgh, COD.

[Emperor Smeat]

Think he forgot the Modern Warfare series ended at 3

[LoDownM]

I'd care if I still cared about Call of Duty.

[Drakul]

Are they actually saying that LEANING is a new feature?

[LoDownM]

I think he did.

[Drakul]

FPS games have done that since the N64. Probably before that. I'm waiting for them to emphasise that we can see the guns actually be reloaded like it's the whole new, original, dimension.

[Blitz]

Ghosts looks nice.

[LoDownM]

Did he really just call MW3, "state of the art for its time"...

[Blitz]

Are they actually saying that LEANING is a new feature?

I think he did.

FPS games have done that since the N64. Probably before that. I'm waiting for them to emphasise that we can see the guns actually be reloaded like it's the whole new, original, dimension.
Holy fucking Christ, it's new feature in Call of Duty. Game company hyping up it's latest game, whoever would've thought.

[Drakul]

Is this the last thing they're showing? It's been an hour and that's usually the length of these things.

[Drakul]

Holy fucking Christ, it's new feature in Call of Duty. Game company hyping up it's latest game, whoever would've thought.

I guess I'm surprised that an FPS game released after 2000 took that long to introduce something like leaning.

[The Rogerer]

Did he really just call MW3, "state of the art for its time"...Running at 60fps on console, yes.

[Blitz]

Markedly better reveal than Sony's.

[LoDownM]

Blitz, calm down, don't need you going all Kano on us.

[Drakul]

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[#BROKEN Hasney]

Markedly better reveal than Sony's.

I disagree. All I want right now from either of them is Knack. Hoping that's all going to change by E3.

[Blitz]

How did it get to the point where people started assuming these console reveals were supposed to be like mini E3s? They showed the console, talked about the architecture, showed some new features, showed a few games, all in an hour. E3 isn't even a month away, I can't get too pissed off that they didn't show 35 games.

[Emperor Smeat]

Naming-wise, seems pretty dumb considering the original Xbox technically was "Xbox One."

PS4 conference was better in terms of showing more games but Xbox One was better in showing the actual console.

[The Rogerer]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/ Theeere we go

Microsoft confirms 'pre-owned fee' for Xbox One
Mandatory game installation required for all games; second install on separate Live account sits behind paywall
Posted on Tuesday 21-May-2013 7:12 PM BST

Microsoft has confirmed that all Xbox One games will require mandatory installation onto the system's hard drive and, to install the same disc onto another user's drive, a fee must be paid.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It's even brickier.

Hopefully the fee will be small. Gamestop could just lower the price of the used game to factor in the fee if its small, so they can still encourage people buying the used games.

[Emperor Smeat]

No backwards compatibility and unlike Sony, there are no vague promises of it arriving in the future.

If you were hoping to play your vast collection of Xbox 360 games on Microsoft's latest creation, we've got a spot of bad news. Microsoft Xbox Live VP Marc Whitten confirmed to The Verge that the new Xbox One console will have no backwards compatibility whatsoever.

"No, there's not," said Whitten, when we posed the question. "The system is based on a different core architecture, so back-compat doesn't really work from that perspective."

...

But while Sony is promising that PlayStation 4 users will indeed be able to play PlayStation 3 games at some point, by streaming them from the cloud, Microsoft is not promising any such thing for Xbox One. When we specifically asked Whitten whether the company had any streaming option or download option for existing Xbox 360 games for the Xbox One, he confirmed that there was no such thing in the works at Microsoft.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/4350662/new-xbox-has-no-backwards-compatibilty

[The Rogerer]

I wonder if the unlock fee de-authorises the previous account holder.

[LoDownM]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/ Theeere we go

If that's true, instant turn off for me.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I wonder if the unlock fee de-authorises the previous account holder.

Probably. Like a car title.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Xbox One? Is that the name? I just got home and turned it on.

Yup

Wow. All that great XBOX taste without all the calories?!:eek:

[Ermaximus]

It's even brickier.

Hopefully the fee will be small. Gamestop could just lower the price of the used game to factor in the fee if its small, so they can still encourage people buying the used games.

Don't count on it. I've worked for them for nine years and they will find other ways to nickel and dime you.

[LuigiD]

Little early to judge but the "fee" system is a deal breaker for me. Can't say I was too impressed with what was shown so far either.

[Curtis]

Little early to judge but the "fee" system is a deal breaker for me. Can't say I was too impressed with what was shown so far either.

No such thing as a deal breaker, Sony will put in the same thing and that's it, you're stuck.
Gamestop will go out of business tho but its okay because they suck more dicks than seth82.

[Drakul]

Xbox Omni would have been a cool name if they wanted to give the "everything in one" message.

It wouldbe shortened to XO, which might get confusing in texts. "Hey, Dave, wanna come over and to my place and play XO?"

[Curtis]

It shouldve really been called the Xbox 720.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Thanks for all the kind words everyone, I really hope to give Call Of Duty a new leash of life.</p>&mdash; Call of Duty Dog (@CollarDuty) <a href="https://twitter.com/CollarDuty/status/336916105652236288">May 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Between no backward-compatability and the fee, I'm not getting this anytime soon. Probably not until they stop making 360 games.</font>

[Emperor Smeat]

Similar to the PS4, its possible to play games the same time they are being installed.

http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-one-games-playable-as-they-are-installing-254194.phtml

[Ermaximus]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Thanks for all the kind words everyone, I really hope to give Call Of Duty a new leash of life.</p>&mdash; Call of Duty Dog (@CollarDuty) <a href="https://twitter.com/CollarDuty/status/336916105652236288">May 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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CoD Dog > entire CoD franchise. What smart marketing on their part eh?

[Emperor Smeat]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/407912/microsoft-confirms-pre-owned-fee-for-xbox-one/ Theeere we go

Microsoft stating the console does not charge fees to play used games and that The Wire's report is wrong.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/modronfixer">modronfixer</a> No fee, correct - and they just got that information wrong. As soon as we saw, we contacted them to correct it. ^EM</p>&mdash; Xbox Support 3 (@XboxSupport3) <a href="https://twitter.com/XboxSupport3/status/336937800702238722">May 21, 2013</a></blockquote>
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According to The Wire though, Microsoft hasn't completely denied there being an anti-used game system in the console (similar to Sony stating there is one but currently deactivated for the PS4).

Edit - According to Phil Harrison, The Wire's report is somewhat true but the fee system might not be as strict and allow multiple users to share the same game disc (either by accounts on a system or by a key limit).
http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/microsoft-unveils-the-xbox-one-updated-x2/1100-4645/

Edit #2 - According to Major Nelson, there is no fee for having others play your game or bringing it over to other people houses as long as your gamertag is logged onto the console your game is being played on.
http://majornelson.com/2013/05/21/xbox-one-and-used-games/

[FearedSanctity]

Meh. I guess all that they actually did show was cool and all, I just don't see myself using most of it. I don't wanna drop like $500 to combine my TV and cable remote or use Skype

[Kalyx triaD]

Request:

I am just getting online now and missed the show. I rather not go through this thread and other media circles - I just need the full show. I wanna watch it unfiltered by opinions already out there. I need to see it for my latest blog update. If you know a link of the full show that would be great. I'm also looking so if I find it first I'll let you guys know.

Reps for effort as well.

[FearedSanctity]

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/05/21/ign-live-presents-the-next-xbox-reveal

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It's "on demand" on the XBox 360 apparently too.

[Kalyx triaD]

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/05/21/ign-live-presents-the-next-xbox-reveal

Awesome thanks. YouTube was full of 'live reaction' vids with douches talking over the footage. I was getting pissed. Rep for you.

[ClockShot]

My brother and I watched the first 5 minutes and saw the box. Both of us said it was really a throwback to the first Xbox.

Ain't digging Kinect being thrown in and all voice command junk. And along with no backwards compatibility and a chance of a fee for used games, I'll probably hold back on this.

Oh, and has the always on internet rumor been confirmed?

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh, and has the always on internet rumor been confirmed?

Kinda. You have to go online once every 24 hours it seems.


http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-does-require-internet-connection-cant-play-o-509164109

[VSG]

MS Store is offering a $10 discount on any order > $10 if you subscribe to pre-order info on the XBOX One. I used it to snag Office 365 University.

[alvarado52]

I will hold off to see how this whole thing goes. The good ol' 360 still have life in it. As it stands right now though, i'm leaning towards PS4.

[Kalyx triaD]

Some interesting news. Gonna go in detail on my blog.

The game sharing went how I thought, more or less how XBLA games are tied to your account. Lending it to a buddy requires him to essentially buy the game to play it. Unless you're signed in to his box at the time, then it simply plays (should be smooth with the cloud thing).

Gamestop should be fairly pissed, though. You can however, trade and sell games digitally, in a process they didn't specify yet. That may be a game changer, but as I said on FB game sharing as we know it is dead on Xbox.

[FearedSanctity]

Gotta wonder if GameStop will bother carrying anything Xbox One related, depending on how this used game thing shakes out

[Kane Knight]

Kinda. You have to go online once every 24 hours it seems.


http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-does-require-internet-connection-cant-play-o-509164109

This strikes me as stupid, if he's accurate. I don't think this would be a dealbreaker for me, but I honestly don't like the shit I've been seeing. I think I'm gonna milk my 360 for all it's worth then sink some money into my PC instead of buying this, if all the stuff they're half-saying is what we all think they're saying.

Gotta wonder if GameStop will bother carrying anything Xbox One related, depending on how this used game thing shakes out

Microsoft's probably going to give them a blowjob like every other company out there.

[Raven Reaper]

I'll keep my money on this one.. I'll stick to my 360 flash drive USB.

[alvarado52]

My Xbox is always connecting anyway, but what really has me down on the XB1 is that the majority of the features they showed I could care less about, and the odd way they are handling the used/barrowed game situation is essetially DRM without saying its DRM.

I get that they want their system to be an entertainment hub, but some people just want a plain ol' gaming console. I dont need (or want) Kinect, I dont care about voice or hand prompts, and I sure as hell dont appreciate a console telling me what I can do with the games I buy.

So unless things drastically change between now and launch, i'll probably be keeping my 360 and buying a PS4.

[dronepool]

X-Box One is a dumb name for a new system. Almost as dumb as the Wii U name.

[Raven Reaper]

To make it short: Here's what it's all about. TV TV SPORTS CALL OF DUTY. TV TV. TV.

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[Disturbed316]

I probably wont even use half of the stuff the things got loaded in there.

[Kalyx triaD]

I love you guys, so I really don't want any of you buy this "Later this year". Get it the year after. Seriously. I don't wanna hear about you guys getting this next Fall. I will defriend you on XBL, FB, whatever you exist to me on. Don't do it. Please. Just wait it out.

[Raven Reaper]

Although XBOX One has mentioned MTV is on it. Hmmmmmmmmmmm... Unless the MTV on XBOX is just plain old shit pop videos of today and reality shows.

Still, I'll stick to the 360 and PC then.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Yeah because that's a good reason to not buy a video game system.

[Kalyx triaD]

A sad trend today is people reaching fairly far to find criticism with Xbox One, even though the issues don't require such effort. In a sense, this is a good sign for Microsoft. People are already ignoring the key issues for petty shit.

[Kane Knight]

So unless things drastically change between now and launch, i'll probably be keeping my 360 and buying a PS4.

Not sure why you'd bother with either, at this point.

[Tom Guycott]

Yeah because that's a good reason to not buy a video game system.

I like how one of their major selling points is that power on voice gimmick that they ADVERTISED (this wasn't conjecture or some misquoted blurb, they produced a commercial) but didn't deliver with on Kinect before its launch! [/sarcasm]

Oh, yay. I can supposedly watch NFL games 18 Sundays out the year AND do fantasy football?! But I don't play fantasy football. Spending conference time to ANNOUNCE A TV SHOW? I get it's a cash cow, but its a bit like if Sony took a bit of their PS4 reveal time to talk about their new line of home stereos.

And ultimatly being suspiciously tight lipped about the questions their audience REALLY wants to know the answers for at a conference full of people just talking in corporate buzzspeak. Then having to look that shit up that someone posted online? No, you just had a conference that should have made that legwork unneccessary!

[Tom Guycott]

A sad trend today is people reaching fairly far to find criticism with Xbox One, even though the issues don't require such effort. In a sense, this is a good sign for Microsoft. People are already ignoring the key issues for petty shit.

That's why they closed the show with a new CoD. In a nutshell, the conference seemed kinda like this:

"I'm sorry to tell you, the accident left your father badly paralyzed. You'll have to check in on him everyday. You're going to spend a lot monthly for his care and... uh... OOH, LOOKIT THE PUPPY! YOU LIKE THE PUPPY? YES YOU DO! YES YOU DO!"

[Kalyx triaD]

As I said about the PS4 conference, ending your show with a multiplatform title is ass.

[Drakul]

Some tweets about the stream.

Katy Goodman @KatGoodman7
Whenever he uses Kinect commands my connect listens and turns off the stream. #xboxreveal Go home Kinect, you're drunk.

Jamie Dalton @VGMasterD
@ScottLowe I watched the live stream on my XBOX 360 and my Kinect paused the video every time a presenter said "XBOX ..." which is ironic.

Jason Chen @diskopo
When the guy on the #XboxReveal stream said "Xbox Live" it activated my Kinect and killed the stream. Good thinking guys.

[The Rogerer]

As I said about the PS4 conference, ending your show with a multiplatform title is ass.And I bet far more people will be buying Ghosts on 360 than on XONE anyway.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Major Nelson bleated the following:

We know there is some confusion around used games on Xbox One and wanted to provide a bit of clarification on exactly what we’ve confirmed today. While there have been many potential scenarios discussed, today we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail.

Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios.

Another piece of clarification around playing games at a friend’s house – should you choose to play your game at your friend’s house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile.While Phil Harrison used the following word vomit:

"The bits that are on that disc, you can give it to your friend and they can install it on an Xbox One," he said. "They would then have to purchase the right to play that game through Xbox Live."

"They would be paying the same price we paid, or less?" we asked.

"Let’s assume it’s a new game, so the answer is yes, it will be the same price," Harrison said.

But that doesn't mean used games are dead. In fact, Harrison told us, you'll be able to sell your Xbox One games online.

"We will have a solution—we’re not talking about it today—for you to be able to trade your previously-played games online," Harrison said.That's some sexy missed messaging.

EDIT: Mr. Harrison is still clarifying his nonsense.


"We will have a system where you can take that digital content and trade a previously played game at a retail store," Harrison said. "We're not announcing the details of that today, but we will have announced in due course."

So it's not anti-used games, just a system to make sure MS/publishers get their cut and also destroy lending friends your games.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

At least Kinect sounds massively improved:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/05/hands-on-and-camera-on-with-xbox-ones-new-controller-and-kinect/

From there it was on to a demonstration of the new Xbox One Kinect sensor. From the moment we entered the demo room, it was clear how much the new sensor improved on the depth sensing resolution of the old Kinect, just from viewing a live, greyscale 3D model of a couch sitting about seven feet from the sensor (a representative said it was about three times the fidelity of the old Kinect). When a volunteer got up in front of the couch, I could easily make out details, from the ripple of his shirt as it fell on his chest to the individual fingers as he rotated his wrists.

The new Kinect doesn't have the motor that the old unit used to make sure it was pointed perfectly at the room in front of it. Instead, the unmoving slab simply has a much wider field of view that captures substantially more of the room when placed on a level surface. A six-foot tall volunteer was completely visible to the sensor while standing only three or so feet away, based on my rough eyeballing of distances.

The demo then switched to a 1080p live color feed of the room, which was unimpressive on its own to anyone with a decent webcam. What was more impressive was the Active Infrared feed, which showed a night-vision style greyscale view of the room at high resolution, even when the room was pitch black (or only lit by a flashlight). This should help for things like computer vision algorithms, which have previously needed extremely bright and consistent lighting conditions to detect certain details in the flat images provided by the Kinect's RGB camera (and yes, the depth-sensing works in the dark as well).

After a quick demo of how the new Kinect's four-microphone array can filter out distracting sounds from a TV speaker, I jumped in front of the camera to test how the new Kinect's improved skeletal tracking worked. The first thing I noticed was a complete absence of the kind of lag and jumpiness that so often characterized avatars on the original Kinect. The second thing I noticed was the way the on-screen skeleton could detect even small motions like a rotating wrist or a shrugging shoulder.

When the avatar in the demo changed from a skeleton to a thicker person made of blocks, it showed how the new Kinect could easily detect which direction I was looking as I tilted my head at the neck. It can also measure the amount of force being put on either side of the body, Wii Balance Board style, and project the force of a punch or a kick based on the speed of the fist behind it.

The creepiest part of the Kinect demo was when the system used a combination of the RGB and IR cameras to detect my pulse rate just by looking at my face. Not only that, but the system could tell when I was smiling and/or looking away from the screen and tell which of two controllers I was holding, even as I handed one off to the demonstrator (a process the PR rep said worked by "magic").

It's still hard to say whether the new Kinect is truly responsive and high-resolution enough to fulfill the promise of controller-free, motion-based games. Still, the improvements to the raw specs, combined with the fact that literally every Xbox One owner will have a Kinect right out of the box, have us tentatively excited about the potential that developers will be able to squeeze from it.

[Extreme Angle]

Looks like I'll have to wait until E3 to get excited about either console. Knack looked interesting on PS4, but that was about it.

[Drakul]

Japanese gamers are doing that thing people do where they ignore something for years and, the minute it doesn't cater to them anymore, they complain about it.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

They could actually be in the 1.6 million people in Japan who bought a 360, you know. Which as it stands, is somehow still more than the PS Vita lifetime sales in Japan.

[Kane Knight]

As I said about the PS4 conference, ending your show with a multiplatform title is ass.

Which they'll get away with because Sony did it too.

[The Rogerer]

There shouldn't be too much focus on exclusivity. The hardware plays what it plays.

[Drakul]

I was waiting for this.

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[Drakul]

Today's Xbox One presentation was light on games, but it sounds like Microsoft has surprises up its sleeves for E3. Speaking with Polygon, Microsoft's Studios corporate vice president Phil Spencer confirmed that one of Rare's established franchises will be making an appearance at E3 this year for Xbox One.

Spencer said, "Fans of Rare and Rare IP I think will be pleased with what we're going to show at E3," and followed up saying, "That historic IP that they've built I think can play a real important role on Xbox One."

Rare owns a number of IPs and franchises including Banjo-Kazooie, Conker, Perfect Dark, Viva Pinata, Kameo, and it recently renewed the trademark for Killer Instinct.

Source (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/05/21/microsoft-promises-39-historic-39-rare-franchise-reappearance-at-e3.aspx).

Any thoughts on what it could be? I'm hoping for Banjo, PD or KI but I'd not be upset if we got a new Conker.
I sort of think it'll be something really retro. Sabrewulf or something. Battletoads?

[Kalyx triaD]

Certainly not KI. They are just cool enough.

[Drakul]

A Banjo-Kazooie themed Mario Party clone.

[Kalyx triaD]

Eh.

[Drakul]

You know it's coming. Only with Kinect 2.0, of course.

I would like to see what they'd do with Battletoads, though. A new PD or BK should, hopefully, be closer to the originals. I'd like classy Joanna over the Zero Joanna. I'd like to have a platformer like BK1 and 2 rather than something like N&B.

[Kalyx triaD]

Except Rare is make up of different people who are mostly aimless now. So let that go.

[Drakul]

I know it's different people. It really cannot be that hard for them to grasp what people liked in those serieses or from those characters.

[Emperor Smeat]

Think a new Perfect Dark or Banjo would be more likely than a new KI or Conkers. At last with PD, they can use 4J Studios to help out (worked on XBLA port).

Don't think anyone who worked on the KI or Conkers series still works at Rare. Might have missed out on the window for KI considering Capcom recently stated the fighting market is way too saturated and declining again.

[Drakul]

It's saturated because they saturated it themselves. Pretty sure they did that last time too.

[Tommy Gunn]

Don't want Kinect, and apparently the X1 won't function without it, so f off microsoft.

Also, having to run it online once a day just so microsoft can fill your dashboard with fresh ads? Shameful.

[Kalyx triaD]

I know it's different people. It really cannot be that hard for them to grasp what people liked in those serieses or from those characters.

But we see just that all the time, do we? Inheriting developers miss the point 80% of the time. I can count on one hand the number of times a franchise switched developers and improved (DMC, Kamiya to Itsuno), and we're lucky for it to at least stay level (Halo, Bungie to 343). But usually it's downhill from there.

And on the FG saturation thing; I was just talking to Khuntry about how I'm sick of hearing that noise when your average game store shelf is mostly FPS games and nobody bats an eye. Take all the fighting game cases and the shooter cases and stack them. Then honestly tell me what's really saturated.

[Kalyx triaD]

Also, having to run it online once a day just so microsoft can fill your dashboard with fresh ads? Shameful.

You have XBL, same as me. Is it really so different now? I've been off lately but overall we (and many of us here) were online whenever we booted up. I understand I may lean toward this attitude since most my interest in gaming is playing online, so my gaming reality already hinges on whether they could keep their damn servers up and running.

[Drakul]

But we see just that all the time, do we? Inheriting developers miss the point 80% of the time. I can count on one hand the number of times a franchise switched developers and improved (DMC, Kamiya to Itsuno), and we're lucky for it to at least stay level (Halo, Bungie to 343). But usually it's downhill from there.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7wApni40ExCsCEezmRaLpEKnjUOQMEm4SSRzWmtQvGh8jwZSI

And on the FG saturation thing; I was just talking to Khuntry about how I'm sick of hearing that noise when your average game store shelf is mostly FPS games and nobody bats an eye. Take all the fighting game cases and the shooter cases and stack them. Then honestly tell me what's really saturated.

Yeah. I'm not fed up with fighters but, if they think the market is saturated, they only have themselves to blame.

[Fignuts]

Actually been having a lot of fun using the kinect with friends lately.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Turned my XBox Live off of auto-renew. I barely use it as it is and there's no reason to keep it running as right now, I will not be getting an XBone at launch. Don't think a lot is going to change my mind.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Oh hey Drakul, you keep asking about SD still, right? The XBone is HDMI only.

[Emperor Smeat]

Bunch of Xbox One news mostly in regards to games, avatars, and the controller itself.

In regards to games:
* Ryse confirmed to be an Xbox One exclusive according to Crytek
* Destiny confirmed to be having an Xbox One version
* Microsoft currently thinking of doing a "1 vs 100" type game for the console
* Unlike the PS4 and Wii U, indie developers can't self-publish games for the console nor have as much control over the games.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/crytek-confirms-ryse-is-an-xbox-one-exclusive/
http://www.destructoid.com/destiny-also-coming-to-the-xbox-one-254232.phtml
http://www.destructoid.com/microsoft-might-have-a-1-vs-100-style-game-for-xbox-one-254300.phtml
http://www.destructoid.com/xboned-indies-can-t-self-publish-on-xbox-one-254292.phtml


In regards to the console and other things:
* Gold accounts will be unified to work on all Microsoft-related systems so having a Gold account on the Xbox 360 means you have the same Gold account on Xbox One.
* Microsoft stated Xbox Avatars will carry over to the Xbox One and corrected a mistake from the Xbox Event which stated they weren't.
* Microsoft also confirmed the hard drive is not replaceable but HDD size can be increased by the use of external USB storage devices (similar to the Wii U).
* The controller itself has been reworked to have a smaller dead zone while being more responsive with the buttons.
The analog sticks have been reworked with a tighter dead zone for more precise control. The button's action time has been reduced and they got rid of the bulky battery housing, but probably the most notable feature is the new impulse triggers.

The triggers now have their own separate vibration motors and can not only vibrate individually, but also simulate new types of rumbles such as firing a gun or flying a helicopter. This also seems to affect the controller as a whole.
http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-live-gold-works-across-platforms-multi-user-access-254282.phtml
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/xbox-avatars-will-still-be-around-on-xbox-one/
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/microsoft-confirms-xbox-one-hard-drives-cannot-be-replaced/
http://www.screwattack.com/news/xbox-one-controller-doing-some-interesting-things-rumble

[Drakul]

Oh hey Drakul, you keep asking about SD still, right? The XBone is HDMI only.

I can accept that. It's being stated before release that it's HDMI only. My issue with the 360 was that it was released to be both SD and HD yet more and more gamesrequired an HD tv above a certain size.

I wont have an HD tv for a while yet* so no Xbox One for me.

*HD tvs are around £300 and I'm running an entire house (not just a flat/apartment) and I'm out of college/work right now. The new bedroom tax doesn't help. No way can I justify that price tag for what is a luxury item when my current TV still works perfectly well. That on top of the actual console is an impossiblity.

[Kane Knight]

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Thank God for Jim!

[Raven Reaper]

http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/MAD-Magazine-Xbox-One-Features.jpg

[Tommy Gunn]

You have XBL, same as me. Is it really so different now? I've been off lately but overall we (and many of us here) were online whenever we booted up. I understand I may lean toward this attitude since most my interest in gaming is playing online, so my gaming reality already hinges on whether they could keep their damn servers up and running.

I sold my Xbox 360 and got a Wii U instead, it was a great console but I just always preferred my PS3 and the Sony exclusives. The dashboard was bothering me though with all the advertising, I just hope the next Sony dashboard isn't the same.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

Time to shamelessly plug my own website, with a special XBox One edition of The Bonus Stage podcast.

<iframe width="480" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/WV5GzOsXitA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I'm the wisecracking guy who doesn't know anything about consoles, but the rest of the dudes know their stuff.

[Curtis]

Xbox one wont allow used games, how Jewish of Microsoft.

[Curtis]

http://i42.tinypic.com/9knxwj.jpg



http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/1<wbr>39706-microsofts-new-kinect-patent-<wbr>goes-big-brother-will-spy-on-you-fo<wbr>r-the-mpaa

Microsoft has filed for a Kinect-related patent, and it’s a doozy of an
application. The abstract describes a camera-based system that would monitor the number of viewers in a room and check to see if the number of occupants exceeded a certain threshold set by the content provider. If there are too many warm bodies present, the device owner would be prompted to purchase a license for a greater number of viewers.

Not buying this.

[Kalyx triaD]

I sold my Xbox 360 and got a Wii U instead, it was a great console but I just always preferred my PS3 and the Sony exclusives. The dashboard was bothering me though with all the advertising, I just hope the next Sony dashboard isn't the same.

No ads when I play SFxT.

[Raven Reaper]

You and me both Curtis. This guy says it all too.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9ekOtn7L1N0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Kalyx triaD]

Why rant angrily about it? Just say your piece calmly and walk.

[Kane Knight]

You and me both Curtis. This guy says it all too.

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9ekOtn7L1N0" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

Yes, a barely coherent rant from a hysterical fanboy is usually the way to sum shit up.

[dronepool]

http://i42.tinypic.com/2psq6fb.jpg

[Crazy Nick]

Honestly from what I have seen out of Microsoft so far, I am not really impressed by the Xbox one. Even though I didn't pick up a PS3 this gen, I may be swayed to get a PS4 for the next gen, if I get a next gen console at all. These days gaming seems to have lost its luster for me, I have a Wii and an Xbox 360 but I don't play either one all that much, time will tell if I cave in and buy a new console.

[Drakul]

http://i.imgur.com/QpG784w.jpg

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Used games from retailers will still work, but they have to sign up to MS's terms and conditions so they manage all the licenses AKA the publishers and MS still get a cut.

I'm pretty sure this will lock out private selling of your own games.


http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publishers-to-receive-cut-of-xbox-one-pre-owned-sales-at-retail/0116137

[Kalyx triaD]

Jesus who gave a shit enough to make that pic.

[The Rogerer]

Someone with eyes?

Also fuck Angry Joe. Fuck off

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Are we all assuming the game takes place on planet earth? Fucking bunch of racists. THERE COULD BE TWO SONS ON THE PLANET DOG.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://i.imgur.com/DtkdMMO.gif

THIS IS HOW JAWS ARE MOVED ON THE PLANET DOG

[Kane Knight]

Are we all assuming the game takes place on planet earth? Fucking bunch of racists. THERE COULD BE TWO SONS ON THE PLANET DOG.

The last son of Krypto?

[Emperor Smeat]

Used games from retailers will still work, but they have to sign up to MS's terms and conditions so they manage all the licenses AKA the publishers and MS still get a cut.

I'm pretty sure this will lock out private selling of your own games.


http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/publishers-to-receive-cut-of-xbox-one-pre-owned-sales-at-retail/0116137

Don't see how most retailers would bother to accept that plan if it really does leave them with just a 10% cut while MS and the publishers get to haul in 90% of every used game purchase.

The 10% cut on new games is a big reason why those same stores carry used games since it barely covers the costs needed to run a store in the long term.

[Kane Knight]

Don't see how most retailers would bother to accept that plan if it really does leave them with just a 10% cut while MS and the publishers get to haul in 90% of every used game purchase.

The 10% cut on new games is a big reason why those same stores carry used games since it barely covers the costs needed to run a store in the long term.

When I worked retail, the markup on games was often far less than 10%, to boot.

I agree with the basic premise. One of the main reasons we have this issue in the first place is that the markup on games is shitty, which makes it hard to work a business model around it.

[Sepholio]

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/139706-microsofts-new-kinect-patent-goes-big-brother-will-spy-on-you-for-the-mpaa

Microsoft has filed for a Kinect-related patent, and it’s a doozy of an
application. The abstract describes a camera-based system that would monitor the number of viewers in a room and check to see if the number of occupants exceeded a certain threshold set by the content provider. If there are too many warm bodies present, the device owner would be prompted to purchase a license for a greater number of viewers.





Not buying this.

Wait. What!? Whats next? "Oh theres too many people in the room, gonna need you to pay double for that dvd you guys are watching!"

MS keeps spouting shit like this and not only will I not get an XB1, I'll toss my PC and go get a mac. Can not stand MS anymore. Greedy peices of shit.

[Kris P Lettus]

If I can actually do Pettis' cage jump kick in the next UFC, sold.

*Showtime Kick

[Emperor Smeat]

Major Nelson recently showed off what Xbox One boxes will look like with Forza 5 used as the example.
http://d1vr6n66ssr06c.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/forza-5-xbox-one.jpg
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/forza-motorsport-5-xbox-one-box-art-revealed/


Xbox One will contain a "remote play" feature similar to what the PS4 will use and communication involving Skype will limited to just two people at a time as of now.
Sources close to Polygon report that the Xbox One will feature Skype-based remote play and two-way conversations through the Kinect.

According to Polygon’s report, the two-way conversations with the Xbox One will be pretty limited. The scenario they describe involves the Kinect not recognizing someone in a crowded room and asking them to identify themselves. Once done, the Xbox One would then welcome the newly identified person.

As for the remote play, Polygon’s sources say this feature—which is similar to the PlayStation 4′s Gakai-based remote play—will operate through Skype on Xbox One. When the option is selected, a prompt pops up on Skype asking if the player is OK with their friend taking control. Remote play can be ended with the push of a button.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/rumor-xbox-one-will-boast-remote-play-siri-style-speech-interactions/


Microsoft recently applied for a patent involving getting achievements for watching tv shows on Xbox One.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/microsoft-applies-for-a-television-based-achievements-patent/

[Curtis]

According to Polygon’s report, the two-way conversations with the Xbox One will be pretty limited. The scenario they describe involves the Kinect not recognizing someone in a crowded room and asking them to identify themselves. Once done, the Xbox One would then welcome the newly identified person.


Additional goy detected in room. Please deposit $50 more shekels to continue playing. Oy Vey, how fun this is!

[Sepholio]

Whats the going conversion rate of US Dollars to Shekels?

[Kalyx triaD]

Remote play is stupid.

[Raven Reaper]

http://0.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/65/95/4dd1f37a73fe7e27d241a99a7a926497.jpg

[Fignuts]

Am I the only person who absolutely just doesn't give a fuck anymore?

[Fignuts]

Seriously, fuck all of this. Gonna save my money and buy a new bike instead.

[Kalyx triaD]

I just wanna play fighting games. That's all. Some Halo and Battlefield as well. Whatever let's me do that a lot wins.

[RoXer]

Am I the only person who absolutely just doesn't give a fuck anymore?

Nah.

I have such a huge backlog of games (actual good ones too) that I want to play that I'm in no rush for a new console. For me I don't think it would have mattered what they announced because I doubt it would have changed my mind. I'm not looking at a new console for another 2-3 years.

[Tom Guycott]

http://i.imgur.com/QpG784w.jpg

Jesus who gave a shit enough to make that pic.

The people who give a shit enough about the details of armhair, which the devs think is roughly 92%* of the market. They expect constant visual appretiation from the same market that will find the first unbalanced weapon glitch and exploit the hell out of it. How pretty it is only matters the first few days, and I don't understand how the masses keep getting snowed by visuals for EVERYTHING.



*a number I just pulled out of my ass

[Fignuts]

Maybe it's on Tatooine.

[Immortal Moose]

Maybe it's on Tatooine.

You may be on to something.

[Immortal Moose]

Some of the ideas for Kinect for horror games that were shared on the most recent Idle Thumbs Podcast are awesomely hilarious, I recommend a listen.

[Immortal Moose]

Think of your Xbox recording your voice and playing it during the middle of your game making your Xbox turn off or recordings of you earlier in the day.

[Fignuts]

This is how Skynet started.

Gonna buy a shotgun and move to a cabin in the forest.

[dronepool]

Xbox Skynet.


Kinect will launch nuclear missiles because of a phone convo featuring those keywords or something.


It begins....

[Ultra Mantis]

I dont think there actually will be a charge for that. The dog, or any other illegal viewer, will simply be vapourised by the XBone's built-in anti-piracy death ray.

[Sepholio]

I have the feeling a lot of these features will be scrapped after the huge public backlash they've gotten so far.

[Kane Knight]

I dont think there actually will be a charge for that. The dog, or any other illegal viewer, will simply be vapourised by the XBone's built-in anti-piracy death ray.

This is the reason for the upgraded Kinect: they needed the improved targeting. They now have a 75% chance of killing the right targets.

I have the feeling a lot of these features will be scrapped after the huge public backlash they've gotten so far.

To be fair, I'd be surprised if it's all true in the first place. A lot of this is people misinterpreting Microsoft or their silence. Not exactly a good idea on their end, but I think people have spun some of this shit out big time.

[Kane Knight]

I have a suspicion the PS4 will have some of the same shit, at least the used-games fees thing. They are just letting Microsoft take most of the heat for it.
Microsoft is letting Microsoft take most of the heat for it, too.

[Tom Guycott]

Speaking of heat; hope they designed the internals better than the 360's, or rendering that freakin' CoD-DoG ALONE will give the Xbone whatever version of red ring the new system will be known to fail under. Won't even get to the complaints about the used/borrowed/rented games when your system melts into a literal steaming pile stuck to your entertainment center.

[Kane Knight]

Practically the whole console is airflow at this point.

Though, being Microsoft, I could still see them fucking this one up.

[Kane Knight]

Sorry, fucking this One up.

[Immortal Moose]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/masonry/000/000/601/C6QJPRHW4QF6KFDP7XJNW24TNDI4YNF2.jpg

[Kane Knight]

I should hope so. That was more telegraphed than a Team Gorm post.

[Raven Reaper]

http://i.imgur.com/s4rFvsn.png

[Kane Knight]

Half of that's crap, of course.

[The Rogerer]

Alright Daria.

It doesn't mention the spurious stuff about the power of the cloud.

[Kalyx triaD]

I said the same thing in this thread with a fraction of the text.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

Alright Daria.

It doesn't mention the spurious stuff about the power of the cloud.

I'm making a console and it utilise the power of my pubes to push the boundaries of power.


This is pretty good about that "cloud bullshit"


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-in-theory-can-xbox-one-cloud-transform-gaming

[Kane Knight]

Alright Daria.

It doesn't mention the spurious stuff about the power of the cloud.

You're standing on my neck.

I said the same thing in this thread with a fraction of the text.

Yeah, but you're not being quoted ad nauseum, either.

Unless this counts.

[Kane Knight]

I'm making a console and it utilise the power of my pubes to push the boundaries of power.


This is pretty good about that "cloud bullshit"


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-in-theory-can-xbox-one-cloud-transform-gaming

More than likely, Mirosoft is banking on people not fully understanding the cloud.

[The Rogerer]

I can see the high concept notion of a world going on on the server, but then that's an MMO. Peter Molyneux wants a world that goes on when you're not playing, but if he wasn't a blowhard he would realise that you do this by just counting how long it's been since the player last played and simulating the changes at startup. All the stuff about the cloud being useless for realtime stuff is as I thought.

The other thing is that cloud processing stuff is pretty expensive on a massive scale. Obviously if MS is managing the cloud itself then it's their own course, but that's still a lot of power and infrastructure they have to keep running that doesn't necessarily add a lot of value. Maybe they're just forseeing matchmaking servers being ran on these?

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Microsoft, doesn't matter how much complaining is being done online about their console since they know a significant chunk will still buy it at some point.

All the focus on the tv stuff during the Xbox One reveal was specifically targeted to those who only buy one console per generation and those who ended up using for current gen console more as a media device than gaming console (ex. Netflix).

"We believe that if all you want is gaming, you'll still pick us, at the end of the day," Spencer dismissively told OXM. "The super core guys, they will buy everything. They will buy all devices, but most people really only do buy one device, and if you're going to think about what that one device is, we believe an all-in-one system that does the best games and TV and entertainment will be something that's really unique."

http://www.destructoid.com/ms-says-gamers-will-buy-everything-including-xbox-one-254678.phtml

[Tommy Gunn]

Maybe in years to come they will release a slim budget Xbone which has no Kinect in it at all.

[Kane Knight]

According to Microsoft, doesn't matter how much complaining is being done online about their console since they know a significant chunk will still buy it at some point.

And they're probably right.

[Kane Knight]

<div style='width:650px;font-size: 12px;'><embed src="http://cdn2.escapistmagazine.com/media/global/movies/player/flowplayer.commercial-3.2.12.swf" flashvars="config=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/config/7376-8ed5f0fbb6a84ccd517487ff9c3dc87b.js%3Fplayer_version%3D2.5%26embed%3D1" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always" quality="high" bgcolor="#000000" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.adobe.com/go/getflashplayer" width="650" height="391" wmode="opaque"></embed><div><a href='http://www.escapistmagazine.com'>The Escapist</a> : <a href='http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jim-yahtzees-rhymedown-spectacular'>Jim & Yahtzee's Rhymedown Spectacular</a> : <a href='/videos/view/jim-yahtzees-rhymedown-spectacular/7376-Xbox-One-Flew-Over-the-Cuckoos-Nest'>Xbox One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest</a></div></div>

[#BROKEN Hasney]

http://s.cdon.com/media-dynamic/images/product/game/xboxone/image2/quantum_break-23741025-frntl.jpg

Nice box for the XBone games. The actual cover for the game is a pile of shit though.

[Tommy Gunn]

I'd rather they made a game of this:

http://www.blastr.com/sites/blastr/files/images/pics/QuantumLeap_DVD.jpg

[Ultra Mantis]

I would absolutely play as Dr Sam Beckett in a Telltale Games adventure.

[Cool King]

So Amazon UK are listing the placeholder price of the Xbox One at £599.99 and the games at £89.99.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/feature.html/ref=tsm_1_fb_s_uk_mnk1xw?ie=UTF8&docId=1000722053

[Drakul]

I can't imagine anyone weould pay that for a console or a game. So, I'm out.
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Came across this clip and thought someone could probably tweak it to apply to the Xbox One reveal.
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/WOqKySQZfeA?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Immortal Moose]

http://kotaku.com/chart-how-microsoft-confused-everyone-with-the-xbox-on-510382385

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18pap30s6g4l9jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg
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http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18papk0fqub85jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg

[Kalyx triaD]

Okay.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Microsoft, they are investing about $1 billion towards games to go along with previous announcements of their NFL deal costing around $400 million and their current AMD deal costing around $3 billion.

The $1 billion towards games would be the largest they've ever investing soley into the gaming side of their Xbox brand.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/microsoft-investing-1-billion-in-xbox-one-games/


Microsoft also clarifies some issues regarding privacy concerns involving the Kinect stating the device can be turned off and allows custom settings for privacy. The device was facing possible legal issues in certain European countries due to strict privacy and anti-surveillance laws.

“Yes, you can turn the system completely off,” a Microsoft rep told Kotaku. “This would use no power and turn everything off. We are designing the new Kinect with simple, easy methods to customize privacy settings, provide clear notifications and meaningful privacy choices for how data will be used, stored and shared.

“We know our customers want and expect strong privacy protections to be built into our products, devices and services, and for companies to be responsible stewards of their data. Microsoft has more than ten years of experience making privacy a top priority. Kinect for Xbox 360 was designed and built with strong privacy protections in place and the new Kinect will continue this commitment. We’ll share more details later.”

http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/microsoft-confirms-xbox-one-kinect-can-be-completely-turned-off/

[Kalyx triaD]

What does putting $1bill toward gaming mean? In practice? What does that mean? Because the only people we should give a fuck about on the subject are studios and their publishers. Microsoft has little to say on the subject.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

When you look at that infographic up there, there's only one guy causing all the confusion. How the fuck Phil Harrison has that job let alone have the fucking CV he does is beyond me.

[Kalyx triaD]

I finally found a point to say about the Xbox One that wasn't said a million times already. My newest blog update (http://kalyxtriad.wordpress.com/2013/05/30/xbox-one-the-first-aaa-console/) positions the new console as something similar to AAA games themselves.

Thanks for reading.

[alvarado52]

Can you just sum it up for me in like, 2 sentences?

[Curtis]

Can you just sum it up for me in like, 2 sentences?

No!

You have to read his boring ass blog to read his opinion.

The people who will read his blog:

1) His mom.
2) ???

[Curtis]

Wait, breaking news, I just spoke to his mom and she said, and I quote,

"I ain't reading that gay ass s**t"

:(

[Kalyx triaD]

Can you just sum it up for me in like, 2 sentences?

Jack of All Trades, Master of Shit