NHL Thread

[Bad News Gertner]

Bryz gets bought out by Philly. Lol Flyers just can't catch a break in net.

Leafs apparently going to buy out Komisarek.


Soooooooooo jacked about the NHL draft. Avs are retarded if they don't take Seth Jones.

[screech]

Ton of money to pay a guy to stay away, but had to be done. I don't think he would have lasted much longer. Fans soured on him and apparently a lot of players did also.

[Skippord]

Nathan MacKINNONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

or somebody else, probably. Maybe Barkov

[Arashi Kage]

It'll be interesting to see how the Rangers and Canuckleheads do next season with this coaching swap.

I really like AV, and I know that I'm not alone in saying that Gillis should have been sent out of Vancouver instead.

[Bad News Gertner]

Nathan MacKINNONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

or somebody else, probably. Maybe Barkov

Lol gonna be funny when Jan Hejda playing on the first team powerplay because the Avs have zero puck moving D.

[Skippord]

Lol gonna be funny when Jan Hejda playing on the first team powerplay because the Avs have zero puck moving D.
They'll probably have Tyson Barrie do it, he seemed better last year. Or they'll just go with Ryan O'Reilly running the point since they seem to like to hang him out to dry at any opportunity.

Although my understanding is that Seth Jones isn't very good defensively so I'm cool with them not drafting him.

[Skippord]

and I'm a pretty firm believer in drafting the best player available

[Bad News Gertner]

I remember saying this about the Oilers years ago when they were shit "stop drafting forwards when your defence is horseshit" Look where they are at. 4 years later and their defense is a friggen mess.

The Avs D scored 3 goals all season. That's awful. Seth Jones addressing more of a need than MacKinnon does.

[Skippord]

ideally they'd trade Paul Stasny for some sort of defensemen, but Paul Stasny kind of sucks so I don't know what they're planning on.

Ray Borque is totally gonna come back

[Bad News Gertner]

I heard Stastny for Dion Phaneuf has been knocked around a bit.

[Skippord]

I heard Stastny for Dion Phaneuf has been knocked around a bit.
I would love for them to do that, but it makes sense for them to so I doubt they will.

The Avs are a real enigma

[Bad News Gertner]

I don't know why teams neglect defense. It baffles me.

I knew Boston was going to destroy Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh threw all their chips on Morrow, Iginla and Jokinen, and added nothing to their defense, besides slow ass Doug Murray


Edmonton currently has Hall, Eberle, Hemsky, Gagner, MSP, Horcoff, RNH, and they won't win shit.


Their current top 4 defense are Anton Belov who they signed out of the KHL and has yet to play a single game, Nick Schultz who is a nice bottom pairing guy, Justin Schultz who I love and Jeff Petry. Smid is meh and I guess Mark Fistric is the 6th by default


That is atrocious, and that's what you get for constantly spending high picks on forwards and neglecting the real need. They have a ton of $ tied of with their forwards, have a cheap d core and still don't have a #1 goaltender.

[Bad News Gertner]

I would love for them to do that, but it makes sense for them to so I doubt they will.

The Avs are a real enigma

I wouldn't be excited about it. Dion's fine. He's just not that #1 guy that Toronto has labelled him as. Plays far too much.

[Skippord]

Justin Schultz is pretty great

I'm of the opinion that the Avs are right to draft Nathan MacKinnon if they do because it takes so long for defensemen to develop into impact players and apparently all number one drafted defensemen turn out to be awful, but if they're bluffing and take Jones I'm fine with it.

[Bad News Gertner]

Justin Schultz is pretty great

I'm of the opinion that the Avs are right to draft Nathan MacKinnon if they do because it takes so long for defensemen to develop into impact players and apparently all number one drafted defensemen turn out to be awful, but if they're bluffing and take Jones I'm fine with it.

Avs aren't winning anytime soon. They can afford to wait. Seth Jones is possibly the best d prospect since Chris Pronger.



Btw, loooooooove Barkov.

[Skippord]

I wouldn't be excited about it. Dion's fine. He's just not that #1 guy that Toronto has labelled him as. Plays far too much.
I'm not the biggest Paul Stastny fan so I'd be more into it for the purposes of getting a serviceable defensemen out of a guy who seems to be in a huge rut here.

[Skippord]

and I could also meet Elisha Cuthbert

[Skippord]

Avs aren't winning anytime soon. They can afford to wait.
That's probably true, you have to factor in Patrick Roy being a lunatic who will probably kill himself if they don't win though and give him the best chance I guess.

[Bad News Gertner]

Here's the problem with some of the defense I've noticed who get drafted high and flame out.

Like you said, it takes a bit longer for a defenceman to develop. Lots of different nuances to the game.


Luke Schenn, Zack Bogosian, Victor Hedman, all got rushed to the NHL straight out of the draft, when they should have spent more time in Junior. If a young defenseman's confidence gets ruined by getting burned by a forward it shows more. Nobody is patient anymore.

[Skippord]

Yeah that's probably the biggest problem

And the fact that it's easier to quantify how successful forwards are since they score the majority of the points and aren't as responsible for any defensive mistakes.

[Bad News Gertner]

If Furcale somehow drops in the first round if I'm the Avs id be exploring into gettinga late first round pick.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol did I ever say how much I fucking love the NHL draft. I buy up all the hockey draft mags every years and read tons of mock drafts and scouting report each year. Toronto picks at 21. Thinking maybe they draft Gauthier who is a center out of the QMHL. They are pretty deep at defence in terms of spects in Rielly, Finn, Percy and Blacker. Deep draft this year so they should be able to get a good player.

[Skippord]

I love all drafts to a ridiculous degree

NBA Network has been running old NBA drafts and I've been watching all of them because I am a weirdo

[Blitz]

I'm just hoping the Leafs don't blow up the team. Make some moves, but don't blow it up.

Cautiously optimistic about the Bernier deal.

[Skippord]

Kadri for Stastny

WHO SAYS NO!?

[Skippord]

that's for my dream "Nothing but Centers" Avs lineup

[Skippord]

watching TSN's draft ranking special now

so very Canadian

[Skippord]

I'd be cool with the Avs drafting Rasmus Ristolainen because it's the coolest name I've ever heard

[Skippord]

TANGERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol yeah they are definitely taking MacKinnon

[Skippord]

I look forward to watching him

although I'm pretty sure they'll be picking fairly high again next year

[Skippord]

NATEMACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK

#NOTHINGBUTCENTERS

[Blitz]

Cory Schneider to New Jersey for the 9th pick. Damn. Pretty cheap.

[Bad News Gertner]

Not a fan of Horvat. Weird trade for Vancouver. Surprised they didn't get more.

[Bad News Gertner]

Friggen love the NHL draft!

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fucking Cal Clutterbuck.</font>

[Bad News Gertner]

Love Cal Clutterbuck

[Bad News Gertner]

Can't believe Seth jones fell to 4. Nashville's defense is disgusting: Weber, Josi, Klein, Jones, Ellis, Bartley.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Garth's gotta get a goalie. Somehow, someway.</font>

[Bad News Gertner]

Zach Furcale is gonna get picked by the Isles.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Oh fuck you Garth. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO</font>

[Bad News Gertner]

Good pick by Isles

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Pulock is ok. But I wanted Fucale. Especially since the Islanders literally used every pick on defensemen last year.</font>

[Bad News Gertner]

They are drafting smart. Reinhart, Hamonic, Pullock, De Haan, MacDonald are a friggen solid core. Defence wins you games.

[Bad News Gertner]

Leafs grab my guy Gauthier and trade for David Bolland! Hell fucking yes.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I still really wanted the Islanders to take Fucale. That's no knock on Pulock, who I think can be very good - I just feel the Isles already have a lot of depth at defense and they very much need to get a goalie of the future. Also a bit disappointed with giving up on Niederreiter so early. I know his agent had asked for a trade, but he was still young so I would have like for them to have tried and smoothed things over. The Islanders had a good offense last year, but they don't have much organizational offensive depth if people get hurt.</font>

[Bad News Gertner]

You can never have too much depth on defence. Teams covet it. Plus it can easily be dealt for an established goaltender.

It only cost the Leafs a 2nd and Matt Frattin/Ben Scrivens for Jonathan Bernier.

[Emperor Smeat]

Islanders bought out Rick DiPietro's contract today. ESPN compared that horrible contract to another from MLB.

Guaranteed about $1.5 million per year but won't count against the cap for the Islanders.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOIuM1fCIAIw_xn.jpg

[Bad News Gertner]

That is friggen ridiculous. Lol he'll be 47 by the time that's done.

[Ermaximus]

Dear Panthers, Get Better Please!

[Bad News Gertner]

Barkov and Huberdeau are going to be incredible together.

[Ermaximus]

Huberdeau is pretty badass.

[XCaliber]

Not sure I like the idea of Daniel Alfredsson heading to the Boston Bruins.

[Bad News Gertner]

Jarrett Stoll of the Kings suffered a seizure at his home. Pretty scary.

[Emperor Smeat]

Bs-Stars pulled off a big 7-player trade today.

Bs get:
Loui Eriksson
Reilly Smith (prospect)
Matt Fraser (prospect)
Joe Morrow (prospect)

Stars get:
Tyler Seguin
Rich Peverley
Ryan Button

Bs had hinted going into the offseason they wouldn't have been able to keep Peverly for next season because the cap is too tight. Seguin getting traded was more due to him being owed too much money and some off-ice concerns more than him having a bit of a down year in terms of expectations.

Stars are going to benefit a lot with Seguin as long as they can quickly settle the issues with his off-ice stuff.

[Bad News Gertner]

That is friggen nuts.

[RoXer]

Matt Fraser (prospect)

The Frase

[Emperor Smeat]

Daniel Alfredsson signed a 1-year deal with the Red Wings.

Nathan Horton signed a 7-year, $37.1 million deal with the Blue Jackets.

[Blitz]

I feel like the moves the Leafs are making are either gonna be extremely good or extremely bad.

[weather vane]

Chiarelli better fucking do something here.

[Bad News Gertner]

Steve Dangle whose Leafs podcast had a great line

The good news is, the Leafs have a lot of money to spend
The bad news is, the Leafs have a lot of money to spend.

Loooooove Clarkson. Big part of me wants Matt Cooke. Can you imagine the douchebag line of
Cooke-Bolland-Clarkson

[Blitz]

I feel like there's enough toughness now without Cooke. Another proven goal scorer would be nice, but I feel like they're likely done for the most part.

[Blitz]

Saw the cover of the Toronto Sun today was like "Thanks, Boston!" for trading Tyler Seguin. Like what fucking sense does that make? He's still a great player we don't have.

[Bad News Gertner]

The Toronto Sun honestly writes like a bitter Leafs fan.

[Bad News Gertner]

Cooke is a fantastic penalty killer

[Skippord]

Free Agency Day? More like stare at a wall and be disappointed by the Avalanche day

although I don't know who they would've signed this year anyway

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol that defense is rough. They gotta do something.

[Skippord]

I would probably throw some offer sheets out there

Winnipeg has 4 million RFA's so offer Zach Bogosian something or something. Or Alex Pietrangelo from St. Louis.

[Skippord]

why do they have this group of old dickheads talking about Daniel Alfredsson on this TV show?

[Bad News Gertner]

You need your picks. That'd cost you multiple first rounders. The Avs are a couple years away.

[Bad News Gertner]

why do they have this group of old dickheads talking about Daniel Alfredsson on this TV show?

Lol which show? I can't believe Alfie went to a division rival.

[Skippord]

That's true, although I do love me some Pietrangelo

I actually thought they didn't have a first round pick this year anyway, but apparently they do. So that's good to know.

[Skippord]

Lol which show? I can't believe Alfie went to a division rival.
The Free Agent Frenzy show on TSN. They have a bunch of Canadian Sportswriters talking about Alfredsson and shitting on Tyler Bozak

(NHL Network here, but I assume that's TSN in Canada)

[Blitz]

Fucking stupid tennis delaying Free Agent Frenzy on TSN. Reduced to watching The Score over here.

[Bad News Gertner]

The Tim and Sid show is pretty solid. If I'm up early I watch them.

[Skippord]

Pierre McGuire is a slit away from having a straight up penis head

[Bad News Gertner]

The Free Agent Frenzy show on TSN. They have a bunch of Canadian Sportswriters talking about Alfredsson and shitting on Tyler Bozak

(NHL Network here, but I assume that's TSN in Canada)

Yeah, we take the free agent day and trade deadline VERY seriously up here in Canada lol

[Skippord]

I feel like they should hire at least one interesting person for this next year

[Bad News Gertner]

Who's on the panel? Bob McKenzie usually does it and he's always good as is Dreger.

[Skippord]

the best part of this is the reporters in the background huddled up and tweeting

[Bad News Gertner]

Pierre McGuire is one step below Don Cherry in terms of ridiculous. LOVES his Western Canadian guys.

[Bad News Gertner]

the best part of this is the reporters in the background huddled up and tweeting

It's almost at the level of National Signing Day for college football in the U.S.A

[Skippord]

Who's on the panel? Bob McKenzie usually does it and he's always good as is Dreger.
There's 3 different panels

one is Ray Ferraro, James Duthie, Pierre McGuire, and some dude I don't know

one is Darren Dreger, Bob McKenzie, Craig Button, and a host who I don't know. And Darren Dreger left so now it's Jeff O'Neil I think

and those reporters who I do not know

[Skippord]

they should just have Doc Emrick shouting out every free agency signing

he is the best

[Bad News Gertner]

I like Ray Ferrero, James Duthie is meh, Craig Button really knows his shit, McGuire is an idiot. You have to hear Pierre during the World Juniors. He makes games unwatchable. Jeff O'Neill is a delusional idiot.

[Skippord]

all the other networks should do something like this

[Skippord]

I also like Ray Ferraro. hate Craig Button though

[Skippord]

they could also have Kathryn Tappen do something, because I want to fuck her

[Bad News Gertner]

Next to Jim Hughson and Rick Jeanneret, Doc Emirck is my favourite. Was a huge Bob Cole fan, but he needs to go.

[Bad News Gertner]

Sportsnet does this too but not as well.

[Ermaximus]

Hey Skippord, remember when the Avs beat the Panthers for the Stanley Cup? :(

[Skippord]

Apparently the Senators have acquired Bobby Ryan

[Bad News Gertner]

CBC has Andy Petrillo. She used to be on LeafsTV. She's a little spinner. Pretty cute.

[Skippord]

Hey Skippord, remember when the Avs beat the Panthers for the Stanley Cup? :(
Incredibly vaguely

although I watch it any time the replay it

[Skippord]

Doc Emrick's my favorite for all the weird shit he says

Also for bringing the word skittered back

[Blitz]

I adore Pierre McGuire and anyone who doesn't is stupid.

[Bad News Gertner]

Tampa signs Fillipula. Solid signing although I always expected more.

[Skippord]

that lady is quite attractive

[Skippord]

I miss Ray Ferraro on ESPN, on a related note I miss hockey being mentioned on ESPN

[Bad News Gertner]

Avs were a fucking beast back then. God were they ever good. They had everything.
Sakic
Claude
Forsberg
Roy
Sandis and Sylvain were incredible together

Their role players were awesome is Keane, Ricci

Sens just robbed the Ducks. Silverberg, Noesen and a 1st.

[Ermaximus]

Panthers continue to really do nothing. I'm guessing they're going the Miami Marlins route.

[Bad News Gertner]

I adore Pierre McGuire and anyone who doesn't is stupid.

He's great in small doses. He does get VERY carried away sometimes.

[Skippord]

Pierre McGuire cannot pronounce the name Daniel, which is weird

he's said Danielle at least 15 times when talking about Daniel Alfredsson

[Bad News Gertner]

Panthers continue to really do nothing. I'm guessing they're going the Miami Marlins route.

They need to concentrate on developing their young guns and stop handing out big contracts to guys like JovoCop. Markstrom is a stud in net.

[Skippord]

the Avs should hire Claude Lemieux and Peter Forsberg to some front office jobs

even if they don't want them

[Skippord]

or just hire Claude Lemieux to beat up Greg Sherman

[Skippord]

WHY WOULD YOU GIVE GREG ZANON A THREE YEAR CONTRACT?

[Skippord]

something called CTV is interviewing children about Daniel Alfredsson

[Skippord]

oh wait I know CTV, it's what they televise(d?) Degrassi on

[Skippord]

60 percent sure one of these writer guys is dead

[Bad News Gertner]

Hahah yeah.

[Skippord]

ughhhhhhhhh sportswriters are the worst

[Skippord]

bitching about Nathan Horton wanting to play in Columbus because he doesn't like big cities

"Fuck this guy for wanting to play in a smaller place"

[Bad News Gertner]

I can't wait to see that nutcase Patrick Roy behind the bench. I think his act could wear out quick in Colorado.

[Bad News Gertner]

Columbus is going to be very good this year.

[Skippord]

I'm excited to see what crazy shit he'll do

probably throw a VCR at at least one of the defensemen

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol poor Semyon Varlemov. Roy is going to crush him.

[Bad News Gertner]

How the fuck does Clarke McArthur get a no-movement clause

[Blitz]

He's great in small doses. He does get VERY carried away sometimes.
And it's adorable when he does :heart:

Everyone shitting all over the Clarkson deal. No one seems to realize that long contracts are kind of the norm nowadays.

[Skippord]

With Semyon's lack of self confidence and Patrick Roy being a maniac I'm looking forward to a lot of J.S. Giguere this year

[Skippord]

some dude just ran off the set of the Free Agent Frenzy show and is now hanging out with the reporters

[Blitz]

Avs were a fucking beast back then. God were they ever good. They had everything.
Sakic
Claude
Forsberg
Roy
Sandis and Sylvain were incredible together

Their role players were awesome is Keane, Ricci

Sens just robbed the Ducks. Silverberg, Noesen and a 1st.
The first year of the Avs is one of my favourite hockey rosters ever.

[Skippord]

apparently he broke the Jerome Iginla trade

really need to start listening to names

[Bad News Gertner]

And it's adorable when he does :heart:

Everyone shitting all over the Clarkson deal. No one seems to realize that long contracts are kind of the norm nowadays.

Exactly how many true power forwards are there around who can score a bit, fight, hit and not an abortion in their own end? Lucic, Clowe, Stewart, Clarkson, Simmonds. That's. Really about it. The Leafs top 9 were small. Clarkson and Bolland are amazing pick ups.

I wrote about this in another forum: I wanted Bozak back. He's top 10 in face offs, players well with Kessel and is awesome on the pk.

[Skippord]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hear that the Habs are close to trading for some toughness...</p>&mdash; Pierre LeBrun (@Real_ESPNLeBrun) <a href="https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/statuses/353239728239280128">July 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Bordeleau for Subban, obvs

[Bad News Gertner]

Clarkson will be a frequent "Pierre McGuire MONSTER OF THE GAME!"

[Bad News Gertner]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hear that the Habs are close to trading for some toughness...</p>&mdash; Pierre LeBrun (@Real_ESPNLeBrun) <a href="https://twitter.com/Real_ESPNLeBrun/statuses/353239728239280128">July 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Bordeleau for Subban, obvs

Flames re-signed McGrattan. Fuck are those two gonna have some fucking awesome scraps.

[Skippord]

I do not know why the reporter's desk is so small, but I find it weird

[Ermaximus]

They need to concentrate on developing their young guns and stop handing out big contracts to guys like JovoCop. Markstrom is a stud in net.

The whole Luongo thing still baffles the shit out of me to this day. How could any organization be that flipping stupid?

[Bad News Gertner]

Brandon Prust was clearly not enough last year. I felt bad for him against Boston and Toronto. He's as tough as nails, but he was all alone out there.

[Skippord]

so excited to watch Bordy fight more this year, that guy is my favorite

and also Steve Downie will be around to make people mad and then fight him more

[Bad News Gertner]

The whole Luongo thing still baffles the shit out of me to this day. How could any organization be that flipping stupid?

Lol ask Skippord about the Avs currently front office. He'll provide insight haha

[Ermaximus]

It's cuz they swept us in 96. It's the curse of the Panthers.

[Skippord]

Lol ask Skippord about the Avs currently front office. He'll provide insight haha
FORMER FRONT OFFICE MERCIFULLY

[Bad News Gertner]

so excited to watch Bordy fight more this year, that guy is my favorite

and also Steve Downie will be around to make people mad and then fight him more

Cody McLeod as well, although I wouldn't be surprised if that's who the Habs acquire. Downie and Bordy make McLeod obsolete.......although the Leafs will probably still dress Orr and McLaren with Clarkson so what do I know.

[Skippord]

thus far I'm on board with Joe Sakic and Patrick Roy running things

I'd prefer if Greg Sherman got fired and roughed up a little bit though

[Bad News Gertner]

Hahaha how do you trade a first round pick for friggen Semyon Varlemov and Chris Stewart, Kevin Shattenkirk for Erik Johnson. Just boggles the mind.

[Skippord]

Cody McLeod as well, although I wouldn't be surprised if that's who the Habs acquire. Downie and Bordy make McLeod obsolete.......although the Leafs will probably still dress Orr and McLaren with Clarkson so what do I know.
Cody McLeod is their secret goal scoring weapon

:'(

[Skippord]

Hahaha how do you trade a first round pick for friggen Semyon Varlemov and Chris Stewart, Kevin Shattenkirk for Erik Johnson. Just boggles the mind.
Greg Sherman is a stupid stupid stupid person

I even got the Erik Johnson trade at the time since Chris Stewart was apparently a problem and at the time they had a bunch of different Shattenkirk types

unfortunately he developed into being way more awesome than those guys

[Bad News Gertner]

How does Edmonton give Andrew Ference a four year contract. This team just plain doesn't get it.

Ooooo WWE Vintage Collection: Cruiserweight addition is on. Time for Gertner to check out.

[Skippord]

that Varlamov trade is mind blowing though

[Bad News Gertner]

Greg Sherman is a stupid stupid stupid person

I even got the Erik Johnson trade at the time since Chris Stewart was apparently a problem and at the time they had a bunch of different Shattenkirk types

unfortunately he developed into being way more awesome than those guys

Hated that trade from the start. You don't deal power forwards.

[Bad News Gertner]

Kidman, Rey and Ultimo Dragon vs Tajiri/AkioVSekoda to start. Bye for now.

[Skippord]

Kidman and Ultimo Dragon are the best, I respect this choice

[Bad News Gertner]

Stupid cat Belak just knocked over my carton of chocolate milk.

[Skippord]

I can't wait until 8 months from now when the Avs foolishly trade Ryan O'Reilly instead of Paul Stastny and I have to kill myself

[Bad News Gertner]

Supercalo, Lizmark jr, Chavo and Juventud vs La Parka, El Dandy, Psicosis and Silver King from Souled Out. Fuck I love Vintage Collection.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol the Isles never learn. Travis Hamonic signed to a 7 year 27 million contract. Could be a steal or another mess.

[Skippord]

hate Supercalo so much

[Bad News Gertner]

The Preds signing of Viktor Stalberg is going to be the under-rated move of the summer.

[Bad News Gertner]

Was a huge Psychosis fan back in the day

[Bad News Gertner]

wow Habs acquire George Parros for a 7th rounder

[Skippord]

Psychosis is the best

*Mexicools run excepted

[Bad News Gertner]

Only stache that can compete with mine

[Skippord]

George Parros' mustache and Greg Zanon's beard should fight

[Bad News Gertner]

Ultimo Dragon vs Dean Malenko at Starcade up next.

[Bad News Gertner]

George Parros' mustache and Greg Zanon's beard should fight

Throw in Mike Ricci's hair and make it a threeway dance.

[Skippord]

who was more wasted in WWE: Ultimo Dragon or Psychosis?

[Skippord]

Throw in Mike Ricci's hair and make it a threeway dance.
Mike Ricci's hair would kill both of them with a single shot

[Skippord]

I have a huge banner thing with the key players of the '96 Avs

Mike Ricci's hair is the best part

[Bad News Gertner]

Vote GERTNER AND SKIPPORD AS KOTF

[LoDownM]

Happy that Scuderi is back with the Pens.

[LoDownM]

Oh well, was hoping Iginla stayed in Pittsburgh.

[Corndad]

Just ran out of Cap Space. Cooke a casualty as well to the Wild.

[Bad News Gertner]

Corndad and lodown be sure to vote Gertie in the KOTF. I'll represent the hockey forum well


Also pissed the Leafs didn't get Scuderi

[Ermaximus]

Gertner, I haven't been home yet, but which Panther is now a Red Wing?

[Bad News Gertner]

Stephen Weiss

[Skippord]

really hoping Bordy fights Matt Cooke at some point this season now

[El Fangel]

Im excited.

[LoDownM]

A little surprised the Avs didn't resign Hejduk. Can't imagine him playing anywhere else.

[Bad News Gertner]

Especially since they are pretty weak on the wing.

[Skippord]

I think they know he'll retire and are going to let him announce it

would be weird if they just didn't resign him

[Bad News Gertner]

Leafs rumoured to be in on Ryan Whitney..........please don't.

[Emperor Smeat]

Defensemen Chris Chelios and Scott Niedermayer, along with forward Brendan Shanahan will be inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame.

They'll be joined in the class of 2013 by Geraldine Heaney, the third woman to be enshrined in the hall, and coach Fred Shero, who led the Philadelphia Flyers to the Stanley Cup in 1974 and '75. He was selected posthumously in the builder category.

[Bad News Gertner]

Good to finally see Fred the Fog get put into the HHOF

[Bad News Gertner]

Think were gonna see some big trade coming up. Lots of teams have multiple rfa's to sign with zero cap space: St.Louis, Toronto.

my leafs have 10 mill to sign kadri, fraser, gunnerson, and franson and colborne. Somebody has gotta be moved.

[weather vane]

Colborne already signed.

[weather vane]

Fraser/Gunnerson filed for arbitration.

[Bad News Gertner]

Leafs offered a 2 way deal. Might walk away from the deal.

Not the biggest Gunnerson fan. Haven't kept up on the signings the past few days. I doubt Colborne makes this team.

[Blitz]

Throw 10 mil at Kadri, fuck the others.

[Ermaximus]

A Panther in the HoF. YES!

[Bad News Gertner]

Throw 10 mil at Kadri, fuck the others.

Franson was pretty solid.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Ilya Kovalchuk retires from NHL after 11 seasons. The 30-year-old had 417 goals in 11 seasons &amp; has 12 yrs/$77 million remaining on contract</p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/statuses/355417278512238592">July 11, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[weather vane]

KHL bound.

[Adder]

You should read Roenick's Twitter tirade over this. LOL

[Bad News Gertner]

One loser putting down another

[parkmania]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Ilya Kovalchuk retires from NHL after 11 seasons. The 30-year-old had 417 goals in 11 seasons &amp; has 12 yrs/$77 million remaining on contract</p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/statuses/355417278512238592">July 11, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[YOUR Hero]

Kovy's going to get paid.

I actually love it.

The NHL is far to much of a gong show with the way they run themselves. I hope this serves as a wake up call.

How many players have opted out now

3, 4?

ha!

[Bad News Gertner]

Kovy gets to move back home, play his style of hockey and get paid more money. I don't see how I can fault him for that.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to ESPN, none of the money left is guaranteed so the Devils can void it all except the cap hit once he retires. SBNation says the cap hit is around $250,000 per year until 2024/2025.

He actually did a huge favor to the Devils since had he retired a year or so later, the cap penalty would have been almost tripled its current value. Guess the previous lockout ended up souring whatever desire he had left to play in the NHL and decided playing in the KHL was a lot better than the money he dropped.

[Bad News Gertner]

Devils lost their first round pick for next season due to cap circumventioon when they signed him. His contract made it impossible to sign Parise and Clarkson. They are much worse without him and they won't even have a pick to show for it.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah it was pretty stupid of them to try and one up the NHL with that deal and paid for it with the fine and loss of a draft pick but they did have the choice of which year to forfeit.

Just so happens the GM was a bit of a moron for not picking 2012 when the 1st round pick was at #29. Might have been able to use 2013 had they not done a draft day trade for the pick leaving next year as the only option.

[road doggy dogg]

According to ESPN, none of the money left is guaranteed so the Devils can void it all except the cap hit once he retires. SBNation says the cap hit is around $250,000 per year until 2024/2025.

He actually did a huge favor to the Devils since had he retired a year or so later, the cap penalty would have been almost tripled its current value. Guess the previous lockout ended up souring whatever desire he had left to play in the NHL and decided playing in the KHL was a lot better than the money he dropped.

Devils lost their first round pick for next season due to cap circumventioon when they signed him. His contract made it impossible to sign Parise and Clarkson. They are much worse without him and they won't even have a pick to show for it.


Yeah the timing was actually pretty terrible for the Devils. He totally hamstrung them this offseason.

[Bad News Gertner]

1972 documentary about the 1972 WHA Quebec Nordiques

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[Bad News Gertner]

Carcillo to the Kings.

I'm guessing Kyle Clifford is asking for a ton of money. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Rangers make a deal for Clifford. They have zero toughness, aside from Haley who isn't a good player.

[Bad News Gertner]

Gunnerson signs for 3 years 9.15 cap hit. I can live with this.

Devils sign Jagr. Lol they are really trying to not suck and lose a lottery pick.

[Bad News Gertner]

Been meaning to share these stories for a while. Does anybody remember Link Gaetz? He was an enforcer drafted in the 2nd round of the 1988 draft by the Minnesota North Stars to protect their first round pick: Mike Modano. Anyways, old Link has had an interesting hockey career and I thought I'd share some classic stories about Link, seen below, lol sporting two black eyes in his draft picture.

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On the day of the 1988 NHL Entry Draft, in which Gaetz was drafted in the 2nd round with the 40th pick overall by the Dallas Stars, legend has it that he entered the Montreal Forum in Montreal, Quebec sporting two black eyes and carrying a case of beer under each arm. On the most important day of his career, Gaetz felt two cases of beer to be the best pre-draft preparation; what a role model.



Link used to get the team's mail, and when the club's rookies would get mail, he would open their letters, read them and if there was any money in them, would pocket his findings. He burned his final bridge in Nashville when on his way to a team party he wasn't invited to, the car in front of him was driving slowly to prevent Link from entering; instinctively, Gaetz floored it, smashing the car in front of him and pushing it into the party.

Link then exited his vehicle, beat the driver unconscious and calmly walked into the party, leaving the scene of the accident he had just caused. When the unlucky driver came to, he called local police and Link was sent to jail.

From jail, Link phoned then coach Nick Fotiu to bail him out; angered by the incident, Fotiu told Gaetz to spend the night in jail. So the next morning when Link was released, he went to the team's practice facility, walked up and sucker-punched his coach in the face. Surprisingly, the team and league suspended Link for the remainder of the season.


In the 1994-95 season Later that year San Antonio was playing Dallas (Link two-handed Frank LaScala broke his arm, thats when Jeff Beaudin jumped in and fought Link.) That was the last game Link played in that league because they suspended him for the season. After that Link went and played a few games for Fresno and fought Gunnar 2x.(he kept following me from league to league LOL) 1996-1997 Link played in Madison (Unitied) Dave Schultz was the coach and Link played with Gunnar Kroseburg (the guy he beat up in Fresno). That year Link fought Mel Inglestead, Jason Disher of Thunder Bay, also Richie Walcott etc. Link sometimes used to show up to the rink drunk, Schultz was getting pissed off at Link, Finally one game from the bench he started stick swinging with a player on the other team, and guess what he got suspended the rest of the season. Thats when Madison traded for Richie Walcott because Link was done for the year. Then in 1997-1998 Link started off the season with the Anchorage Aces(WCHL) Anchorage had to put up a 40,000 dollar bond so Link could play in the league, and if he did anything stupid the team would loss the bond, and guess what 11 games into the season he gets in a fight, after the fight he won't stop, keeps trying to get at the guy so the ref jumps in to help, Link gets so pissed off that he bit the linesmen in the leg, they suspended him the rest of the season, and the Aces lost all that money!


January 19, 1999: Link was arrested in Huntsville, Texas on January 10th and charged with public intoxication and resisting arrest. His bond, which was raised from $10,000 to $100,000 after he taunted the arraigning judge and reportedly told him to "fu-- off," was later reduced to $5,000, but the last we heard, he was still in jail.


March 13, 2005: Link suits up but doesn't play in his final game. He is later suspended for the rest of the season. Not because of a fight, but because he wanted a hamburger (http://www.theiceblock.com/index.php?/hockey/entry/link-gaetz-suspended-for-the-rest-of-the-season/). Apparently, this was the norm for Link and did the same thing (http://www.vicster.net/blog/archive/2005_03_01_archive.html) while with the San Francisco Spiders.


Video of Link Gaetz getting into a stick fight
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he flipped his car over in the parking lot of the coliseum (? Northstars arena) crawls out, goes in to participate in the team practice, doesn't say a fucking word about his car being upside down, like it never happened. When the cops came, he was trying to hide in the dressing room.

Also in Minnesota, another experience with having Link as a roomate. His roommate was in his bedroom fucking a girl. Link is drunk and begins pounding on the door and saying "I'll huff, and I'll puff...". Finally the door is kicked in and there stands link gaetz, bare ass naked holding a bottle of vodka (and probably his PP). What happened after that I don't know.

Four years ago, in Miramichi, New Brunswick, police found the battered form of a huge miner whom Gaetz had pummeled and tossed into a snowbank. A local who knew both assailant and assailed has this to say: "They were drinking and got into a car together, and the guy thought he could tell Link a thing or two. Well, I'll tell you what. If you're gonna shoot your mouth off with Link, you're gonna get it shut. That lad got his face dismembered. He looked like he was wearing a Halloween mask.


"Link got hold of a motorcycle and a pistol," Twist says. "The bike ran out of gas and he started walking. He passed a church, shot out the stained glass windows. He was disappointed because he was aiming for the bell." Result: arrest for carrying a firearm without a permit, conviction for disorderly conduct and three days in jail. Then there was the time when Twist's Peoria Rivermen hosted Gaetz's Kalamazoo Wings. Twist was heading home when he noticed a smashed TV in front of the Hotel Continental Regency and a hole in a fourth-floor window. Depending on whom you believe, Gaetz was either upset that he'd been thrown out of practice (the police version) or annoyed that his window wouldn't open

[Arashi Kage]

Incredible!!! This could be a good foundation for making another Goon film.

[weather vane]

Except Doug Glatt was a sweetheart. The Missing Link was a complete dickhead.

[Bad News Gertner]

Yeah, Doug The Thug Smith was a good guy and has given some great interviews

[Bad News Gertner]

Incredible!!! This could be a good foundation for making another Goon film.

These are just a few. There's countless others. There's been many talks about a Link Gaetz documentary.

[Bad News Gertner]

There's a ton of great bio's on players to read. John Kordic's story is interesting as is Harold Ballard's. I'll post some Ballard stories sometime as they are ridiculous.

My favourite book is called "The Rebel League": the story os the old World Hockey Association.

If you enjoy reading you HAVE to check it out. It has incredible stories as the Minnesota Fighting Saints were the inspiration for the movie Slap Shot. Olgie Ogolthorpe was an actual real person: Bill Goldthorpe. He used to play with numchucks in the dressing room before games.

[weather vane]

Goldie Goldthorpe is a Thunder Bay boy.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Goldie Goldthorpe is a Thunder Bay boy.

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[Bad News Gertner]

Very interesting to see how many solid NHL players are still without a job and will probably go to camps on tryouts

Who would have thought Brendan Morrow would not be on a team? Mason Raymond, Ian White etc....


The Ron Hainsey story is very interesting. Many think he's been blacklisted from the league due to his part in the NHLPA lockout.

[Arashi Kage]

The Ron Hainsey story is very interesting. Many think he's been blacklisted from the league due to his part in the NHLPA lockout.

No way, it's actually happened? There was talk about this eventually happening to Hainsey while the lockout was in progress. Interesting. I feel bad for him, but if memory serves me right, he made some very foolish and stupid comments - however, I couldn't quote you anything from memory. :p

[Bad News Gertner]

There's conflicting reports that he's asking for a ridiculous amount of money. 3.5 million, which if that's the case then Hainsey might have taken one too many hits to the head. He couldn't even get that in the KHL.

[Corndad]

Amazing Video. Malkin delivering Season Tickets..


Best Part. Guy FaceTime's his girlfriend in Turkey and Geno tells everyone 'I love turkey' and starts telling her 'Come to Pittsburgh, what you do in Turkey?' :rofl:

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[Bad News Gertner]

Lol Malkin's video of him fighting with an 10 year in Russia was amazing. Must have made that kids day.



Looks like Kadri is going to sign a 2 year deal between 2.7-3.5 million a year, plus Mason Raymond signed a PTO. He'd fit nice on the third line.

[Bad News Gertner]

Flyers sign Dan Cleary to a 3 year deal with a no trade clause........

I full believe at this point Paul Holmgren is just signing random players and throwing them against a wall and hoping it sticks.


Also Hal Gill is signed to a PTO with Philly. With the orange jersey he'll actually look like a pylon.

[YOUR Hero]

The lowered salary cap is making for some interesting non signings

[Bad News Gertner]

It really is. Brad Boyes had a solid season last year and just now got an invite to Florida's camp.

[weather vane]

Behind the B was mint. Anybody watch?

[Bad News Gertner]

Noooo, got a link? What station was it on?

[Bad News Gertner]

Leafs sign Kadri: 2 years 2.9 million a season.

Thank God that's over.

[Bad News Gertner]

This Alex Pietrangelo contract situation is going to be messy. The Blues have zero capspace and he wants a big raise.

Really feeling Phil Kessel might leave after the year


Really wish more people would post in the hockey thread

[Skippord]

wish the Avs would throw an offer at Pietrangelo

or any defensemen

[Bad News Gertner]

You know, I'm shocked at the amount of hype that team is getting. I've seen publications that have them in the playoffs. Their defence resembles the early 2000's Pens when Dick Tarnstrom led that team in points. Their defence is ATROCIOUS, and I'm about as sold on Varlemov as I am on Dubnyk, which I'm not. Tyson Barrie and Duncan Siemens are literally going to have to have All Rookie Team calibre seasons. Thei centers are top notch, but their wingers are bad. At least Bordeleau will get regular playing time and crush heads.

Lol I might have to come out of retirement and start writing articles again.

[Skippord]

I doubt Duncan Siemens will even start with the Avs which is odd. I think Dubnyk is pretty good(always shuts down the Avs, so I am biased) but I'm not sold at all on Varlamov. Did you see they're moving Ryan O'Reilly to wing? I found that odd, would've moved Stastny up with Duchene and Parenteau and had O'Reilly with Landeskog and Tanguay.

[Skippord]

SPORTS!

[Bad News Gertner]

I doubt Duncan Siemens will even start with the Avs which is odd. I think Dubnyk is pretty good(always shuts down the Avs, so I am biased) but I'm not sold at all on Varlamov. Did you see they're moving Ryan O'Reilly to wing? I found that odd, would've moved Stastny up with Duchene and Parenteau and had O'Reilly with Landeskog and Tanguay.

Yeah, which is odd, because O'Reilly is a 52% winning percentage on faceoffs, and you know being young that MacKinnon won't win many and it's nice to have a good faceoff man on your third line. Dubnyk I maintain is not a number #1 goaltender.Siemens won't start because the Avs have 100 mediocre defencemen under 1 way contracts.

Michael Sgarbossa is a young forward who is a major pain in the ass in your system who I love.

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol just noticed Jan Hejda is getting 3.2 million dollars. Christ. People don't talk about Erik Johnson being a huge bust, but good lord.

More than likely this is your top 6


Erik Johnson-Jan Hejda
Ryan Wilson-Tyson Barrie
Matt Hunwick-Cory Sarich
Andre Benoit


I have zero idea what the Avs are up to, but they'd better not pull an Edmonton and keep drafting forwards. It never works, never has worked, nor ever will. Edmonton still won't make the playoffs this year. They finally drafted Daniel Nurse and IMO he's nothing more than a #4 defenceman.


Skippord, any report on Joey Hishon? The Avs spent a high pick on him, but he's really fallen off the radar.

[YOUR Hero]

There isn't that much to talk about yet. Except the Pietrangelos situation I suppose. I hear he wants to be the leagues highest paid DMan. Is that right?

[Bad News Gertner]

I heard that as well. I think it will drag on for a while. The Blues don't have the capspace.

Yeah, been really reaching for anything to talk about on here.

[Shisen Kopf]

lol @Dan Cleary

[Skippord]

Lol just noticed Jan Hejda is getting 3.2 million dollars. Christ. People don't talk about Erik Johnson being a huge bust, but good lord.

More than likely this is your top 6


Erik Johnson-Jan Hejda
Ryan Wilson-Tyson Barrie
Matt Hunwick-Cory Sarich
Andre Benoit


I have zero idea what the Avs are up to, but they'd better not pull an Edmonton and keep drafting forwards. It never works, never has worked, nor ever will. Edmonton still won't make the playoffs this year. They finally drafted Daniel Nurse and IMO he's nothing more than a #4 defenceman.


Skippord, any report on Joey Hishon? The Avs spent a high pick on him, but he's really fallen off the radar.
He's had some major issues with concussions the last couple seasons. Finally got healthy from one last year and then immediately took a cheap shot to the head. Now he seems to be healthy from that and apparently has a groin issue. From what I've read he's quite good when he's able to play, but he hasn't been able to play very much.

[Skippord]

Yeah, which is odd, because O'Reilly is a 52% winning percentage on faceoffs, and you know being young that MacKinnon won't win many and it's nice to have a good faceoff man on your third line. Dubnyk I maintain is not a number #1 goaltender.Siemens won't start because the Avs have 100 mediocre defencemen under 1 way contracts.

Michael Sgarbossa is a young forward who is a major pain in the ass in your system who I love.
OK good I was worried I was the only one who thought it was a weird choice because I am in love with Ryan O'Reilly.

I'm a huge fan of Sgarbossa, he was up for a little while last year and then he pissed Joe Sacco off or something and got benched for like 3 weeks before being sent down.

[Bad News Gertner]

He's a future Steve Downie

[El Fangel]

Go Cowboys!

[Bad News Gertner]

Fangel, did you buy your Patrick Kane jersey yet?

[Arashi Kage]

Disappointed that Hodgson signed with the Sabres. I was hoping that he'd walk away from them when his contract was over and join the Leafs. :p

Is there some sort of unwritten "loyalty" code in the NHL? If I was a premier player in the NHL, I'd be trying to go where I wanted, not sticking with the team who drafted me, or staying with a team that I was traded to. I guess you could say that I'd pull a Lindros, except that I'd serve out the duration of my entry level contract with the team who drafted me first.

[Bad News Gertner]

Young players who pull that get major heat with the vets. It's just a crappy thing to do and it almost never works out for the player. Plus, being an RFA, it'd cost the team an arm and a leg to get you. Depth is so much more important today and putting all your eggs in one basket is a terrible way to run a team.

[Bad News Gertner]

Looooooooooooove me some pre-season hockey!

[Bad News Gertner]

Lol love this quote regarding the Leafs somehow making the playoffs, despite being put shot and out chanced nightly: " The Leafs' success last year was akin to dropping into the fetal position in a fight, and then when the bully walks away, kicking him in the balls with his back turned

[Bad News Gertner]

Well it took a week and it happened. The NHL put in this stupid ass rule where you can't remove your helmet before a fight which is retarded, so Krys Barch and Brad Gallant found a loophole. Lol told my friend his was going to happen sooner than later.

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[LoDownM]

lol @ the video. But that is a retarded rule.

[weather vane]

good fucking tilt though

[Bad News Gertner]

They fought three times that night. The first fight is even better.

[YOUR Hero]

Hope Raymond makes the Leafs and scores 30+ goals. Stupid Canucks

[Bad News Gertner]

Raymond apparently has an offer on the table for $925,000 if he makes the team. If Raymond can put up 10-15 goals and 30-35 points, kill penalties, I would GLADLY take that.

[YOUR Hero]

Canucks are stupid. Mason is not the only example.

[Bad News Gertner]

Still miles ahead of the moves my Leafs have made. I don't know how they are going to get Franson signed. Nobody wants JM Liles.

[Bad News Gertner]

Epic linebrawl in the Sabres vs Leafs game tonight. Goalies fought, even Kessel fought and one. Clarkson is gonna get 10 games for leaving the bench.

[Hanso Amore]

I though scott was a moron attacking kessel and the whole thing was pathetic.

Then we kessel came back after Scott after it all ended and speared him I changed my mind. Bullshit stick work from kessel.

Clarkson bye bye for 10. Scott should get 1. Kessel should get 3 for the slashing and spearing. Scott being an instigating goon aside, no one should ever be allowed to use a stick like a weapon.

[OssMan]

The Capitals will host the 2015 winter classic... they don't know where or against whom though

wtf

[Emperor Smeat]

Might be against the Penguins since that was one of the original plans before the recent lockout and some deals moved around a few of the Winter Classic matchups.

If its not the Penguins, there are rumors of it being down to the Bruins and Flyers as likely opponents.

[Corndad]

I can't see it being the Pens again with them already playing Caps in Winter Classic a few years ago and also being in 2 Classics already.

I'm not sure who but I would be shocked if it is. My personal Dream is a few years down the road after a few more teams have got a chance to play in one, have a Pens vs Flyers in Beaver Stadium. I was there for the Heinz Field game and the atmosphere was insane. I couldn't even imagine that atmosphere for a Pens/Flyers game in such a big Stadium.

[Bad News Gertner]

This was ridiculous

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[Bad News Gertner]

You know, I actually like Jack Edwards 95% of the time. He doesn't brush off opposing teams goals like they are nothing and you can tell really loves hockey......and then there's the other 5% when he acts like Derek Sanderson Version 2.0.(That is a reference to former Bruins player turned announcer Derek Sanderson who when he was doing color was over the top biased during fights to the point where you'd turn the sound off. Lyndon Byers and Jay Miller went undefeated in his eyes.)

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[Bad News Gertner]

Leafs sign Mason Raymond to 1 year 1 million. Love the signing...not sure how the fuck they are going to get Franson signed, but Raymond fills a need.

Oilers claim Steve Macintyre off waivers. Macintyre, Patrick Bordeleau and Brian McGrattan are going to have some wars. Holy shit can those three ever throw them.