Clockshot presents: The Super Post-MITB Hillbilly Deluxe RAW Thread 07/15/2013

[GD]

The crowd chanting for El Generico.

[Frank Drebin]

Does anyone else feel like 98% of the current generations Diva's wrestling, brawling and selling is just terrible?

Hasn't been good since that Alicia Fox verse Melina match.

[Frank Drebin]

Welcome to Monday Night Raw at TPWW, Crazy Edgar. Damn glad to see ya.

[slik]

'Perhaps' costs Punk the match...

[Cool King]

Hasn't been good since that Alicia Fox verse Melina match.

Well it is a classic.

[The Condor]

Welcome to Monday Night Raw at TPWW, Crazy Edgar. Damn glad to see ya.

Just got in, watched a little. Ok but nothing of note for me. 'Sup, Drebs?

[BigCrippyZ]

Well it is a classic.

:lol:

[Savio]

Some people say it was the best match ever.

[slik]

Heyman might have been hoping the second ladder would offer more support.

[#1-norm-fan]

Some people say it was the best match ever.

It was so good Alicia Fox has snapped and gone crazy trying to duplicate it and turned heel 367 times as a result.

[Corndad]

It's Subdued Clobberin Time!

[Frank Drebin]

Just got in, watched a little. Ok but nothing of note for me. 'Sup, Drebs?

All good my man. Enjoying a nice summer night watchin RASSLIN!

[slik]

Borc Lesber time!

[GD]

CM Punk looks a lot more handsome with his new hairstyle / facial hair when compared to his slicked back hairstyle during his long reign as WWE Champion.

[ClockShot]

Words can hurt, Paul.

[slik]

Heyman and Punk dueling promos. Oh this will be good.

[Cool King]

If Punk doesn't exist in Heyman's world, then who is Heyman talking to?

[The Condor]

All good my man. Enjoying a nice summer night watchin RASSLIN!

Switching between this and the HR Derby but I'm really not into either tonight.

[GD]

Paul Heyman and CM Punk need to sit together and watch "I Love You, Man".

[Corndad]

Be a Star Heyman.

[Frank Drebin]

I hope for this guys sake, Brock is in the house. Here is was chillin watching last nights ppv.

[slik]

Wow. Heyman's promo.

[Corndad]

I could listen to this promo all night.

[Frank Drebin]

This is awesome.

[Malfeitor]

Heyman's fucking gold.

[ClockShot]

That's deep, Paul.

Rebuttal, Punk?

[Savio]

Uh-oh I enjoyed it.

[The Condor]

*Not bad

[Corndad]

God this is good shit.

[owenbrown]

nice bleeping of son of a bitch there WWE

[ClockShot]

BRRRRRRRRRROCK LES-NAR!

[GD]

Here comes the pain! :yes:

[Corndad]

This feud is gonna drizzle awesomeness isn't it.

[Frank Drebin]

http://i.imgur.com/eivUx.gif

[slik]

Good God that was a good segment.

[Malfeitor]

God damn that was intense.

[Savio]

tables dont break like they used to

[Emperor Smeat]

Tables really don't seem to like Punk these past few months

[GD]

This was an amazing segment. Heyman and Punk are gold. Not to mention the physical presence of Brock Lesnar.

[ClockShot]

Nice little segment right there.

Now how do we follow that up?

[rob11]

Those two interacting was on another level from everyone else on the roster.

[DaveBrawl]

Curse you Bryce Harper. Wanted to see Cuddyer in the finals. :(

[ron the dial]

i could watch 3 hours of that

[DaveBrawl]

Did watch Raw instead of Harper this time though, so I managed to see the gold that was that segment. So judging by the way things have lined up we're due for one more great segment tonight when Harper comes back up to bat.

[Crimson]

And yet Vince probably still thinks the Cena segment from earlier was better

[BigCrippyZ]

And yet Vince probably still thinks the Cena segment from earlier was better

Probably. I even wouldn't mind watching all the recaps if each segment was even remotely as good as that.

[owenbrown]

segue from Lesnar-Punk-Heyman to the shitty Divas show on E! ?! :wtf:

[Mr. Nerfect]

I still kind of really want CM Punk to win the Intercontinental Title from Curtis Axel heading into their SummerSlam match. It doesn't need it, but it's just fit Punk's issues with Heyman and fighting his clients.

[ClockShot]

Yeah. Pick Khali, Cena.

[BigCrippyZ]

i could watch 3 hours of that

Unfortunately the writing, booking and talent isn't there to execute 3 hours of that even once a month.

[owenbrown]

and now Khali?! :wtf:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Brock could win the title and then hand it to Curtis Axel for some mad heat on Axel.

[ron the dial]

lol loved that khali bit for some reason

[#1-norm-fan]

Well. There was Cena's choice!

[Cool King]

Khali. :lol:

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cena will pick Daniel Bryan and I hope that picking Bryan leads to Cena losing the title and becoming frustrated that his choice backfired.

[ClockShot]

I hope they don't give Maddox the 3-headed monster treatment like they gave Vicki. Give the guy a chance.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Brad Maddox is really fucking growing on me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope he has his own "RAW General Manager" Championship belt produced just because that would be mildly entertaining.

[#1-norm-fan]

Vince won't like it... It is gonna be Daniel Bryan.

[slik]

I feel bad for Brad Maddox.

Stephanie and HHH burying him.

[Corndad]

Wonder how arguments at that household go?

[Cool King]

RVD!

[ron the dial]

feels good to see rvd on raw again

[Mr. Nerfect]

Are they referencing Daniel Bryan being a pick Vince McMahon wouldn't like? Bryan to be backed by Triple H and Cena to be backed by Vince?

[GD]

Cena made no sense.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I have a feeling that this match might be used to set-up RVD vs. Ryback for SummerSlam.

[Cool King]

Looking forward to this match. :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope they bring up Cena bringing back Daniel Bryan to the WWE for SummerSlam 2010 and then giving him the title shot at SummerSlam 2013. Bryan losing cleanly to Cena would actually be a cool way to segue way him into a darker role -- not that the company wants to do actually do that.

[BigCrippyZ]

This match should be solid.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope they give it a clean finish. Put RVD over clean and then have Ryback attack Jericho after the match and RVD make the save.

Also, for those wondering, Ryback defeated The Brooklyn Brawler on Superstars.

[Bad News Gertner]

Ron the Dial thinks John Cena should end Undertaker's streak at Wrestlemania.

Gertner doesn't

Want to show him who's boss?

Vote Gertner for King of the Forum

[Mr. Nerfect]

Chris Jericho's entrance bothers me for the same reason that Kane's does -- the musical timing of it isn't right. Jericho should be standing there in the dark and in his pose and then his pyro should go off and music kick in. Kane's lead-in to his entrance should play before his pyro goes off and he makes his entrance.

[#1-norm-fan]

Ron the Dial thinks John Cena should end Undertaker's streak at Wrestlemania.

Gertner doesn't

Hmm... Well, I WAS gonna vote for Gertner.

This new information is swaying me though.

[Savio]

RVDs a bit slower than I remember...

[Mr. Nerfect]

I still think that The Undertaker vs. Daniel Bryan could happen at WrestleMania XXX, just because The Undertaker would no doubt have his pick of the litter and Bryan is one of the few guys on the active roster that could have a legitimate classic with The Undertaker.

[BigCrippyZ]

RVDs a bit slower than I remember...

Age. Also seems like the camera angles aren't helping.

[Cool King]

RVDs a bit slower than I remember...

Age.

[Mr. Nerfect]

RVD is still amazing. Never been a huge fan of the guy, but even his work in TNA earned unfair criticism. His psychology in the Bound For Glory Series last year was perfect (changing his style to go for more submissions).

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think RVD and Sheamus would have a really fantastic hardcore-style match.

[slik]

I feel like Barclays Center is their new 'go to' place in NY since it's probably cheaper than MSG

[Emperor Smeat]

How can Cena choosing someone be unprecedented if he's done it a few times before I think.

[Hanso Amore]

RVD is still amazing. Never been a huge fan of the guy, but even his work in TNA earned unfair criticism. His psychology in the Bound For Glory Series last year was perfect (changing his style to go for more submissions).

We need to get you laid

[BigCrippyZ]

I feel like Barclay Center is their new 'go to' place in NY since it's probably cheaper than MSG

I can't imagine it would ever actually happen, but aren't there talks about tearing down and moving MSG to another location to put up a high rise or something? Seems like I remember hearing something about that not too long ago.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Van Dam going right back to the body scissors.

[Hanso Amore]

I hate you still got it chants. Crowds whip it out way too soon. As soon as anyone comes back they are waiting to uncork it

See backland vs slater

[Mr. Nerfect]

We need to get you laid

Are you still the tranny specialist?

[dronepool]

RVD!!!

[owenbrown]

a point I'd like to make...no one gives a fuck about the WWE app

[Hanso Amore]

I can't imagine it would ever actually happen, but aren't there talks about tearing down and moving MSG to another location to put up a high rise or something? Seems like I remember hearing something about that not too long ago.

That pops up every 7 years since the 60s

[Hanso Amore]

Are you still the tranny specialist?

Yeah, you interested in taking up the mantle?

[BigCrippyZ]

That pops up every 7 years since the 60s

Ahh, I see. I didn't actually ever see it coming to fruition. Good to know though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, you interested in taking up the mantle?

Are you afraid of a little competition?

Did you start with women who look like men and ease into it?

[Mr. Nerfect]

RVD is going to make the Codebreaker look fucking sick if he takes it in this match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I want Christian to bring back The Peep Show and actually get a chance to cut some promos to make people care about him.

[slik]

I'm diggin' the architecture.

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[#1-norm-fan]

Some PPV quality 'rasslin' matches tonight.

[slik]

I can't imagine it would ever actually happen, but aren't there talks about tearing down and moving MSG to another location to put up a high rise or something? Seems like I remember hearing something about that not too long ago.

Seems like a pipe dream. Strange.



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[Cool King]

I've always loved the way RVD sells the DDT.

[ClockShot]

Mmmmmmm. Almost time for RVD to go flying.

[Cool King]

Looks like RVD's staples are coming out.

[ClockShot]

BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!

[Poit]

FIVE STAR!

[#1-norm-fan]

I love when they actually have two guys who can go 20+ easily on PPV have a long match on Raw instead of inexplicably going 4 minutes just because they're on free TV.

[Cool King]

Great match, as expected. :y:

[dronepool]

MATCH OF THE YEAR CANDIDATE

[#1-norm-fan]

"King, does anyone get any higher!?"

[Malfeitor]

That was a glorious 5 Star Frog Splash.

[dronepool]

The Barclays is huge guys, I saw the Smashing Pumpkins and will see NIN there.

[#1-norm-fan]

Cena should choose Ryder. He owes the man, FFS.

[ClockShot]

Oh it's......THE DECISION!

Cena's taking his talents to TNA?!

[slik]

I actually just pictured Poit's avatar screaming 'FIVE STAR' when I was scrolling down this thread.

[Cool King]

That was a glorious 5 Star Frog Splash.

Good camera angle for it too.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Great match that instantly makes RVD a big deal.

[Hanso Amore]

Miz tv is god awful

[owenbrown]

Oh it's......THE DECISION!

Cena's taking his talents to TNA?!

CZW

[ClockShot]

Hmph.

None of these guys are holding torches or roses.

[Hanso Amore]

I don't see Bryan

Lol Ryder looks so pissed. He has gotten kind of unprofessional

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. Jericho and Ryback just chillin' there.

[Poit]

Brooklyn Brawler sighting!

[Savio]

lol

[Innovator]

THE BRAWLER IS MAIN EVENTING RAW

[Mr. Nerfect]

LOL, Chris Jericho and Ryback hanging out together on stage.

[Cool King]

Ryder looks depressed.

[#1-norm-fan]

Alright, Cena. Let's do this "Guess Who" style like Vince's son was revealed.

[Hanso Amore]

Fitting jersey since deron Williams is the Brooklyn brawler of point guards

[slik]

Jinder Mahal's big moment coming up

[ClockShot]

I don't see Dan "The Man" out there. Or is he behind someone tall?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cena choosing Del Rio and going after the World Heavyweight Title would be pretty bizarre.

[#1-norm-fan]

Oh, GODDAMMIT!

They fucking hate you, Cena! Don't let them choose!

[Immortal Moose]

Daniel Bryan

[#1-norm-fan]

I don't see Dan "The Man" out there. Or is he behind someone tall?

He's probably standing behind someone tall. Like... 5'10.

[Mr. Nerfect]

This is going to make Daniel Bryan a huge star. He should start calling himself the People's Champion.

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. Heath Slater.

[VSG]

HAPPY BDAY, Slater!

[Poit]

Don't hinder Jinder :lol:

[Innovator]

Hey theres Alex Riley. There he is.

[Poit]

Alex Riley still exists!

[owenbrown]

Cena v Brooklyn Brawler BOOK IT!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Mild pop for Heath Slater!

[slik]

Why is Alberto out there?

[Hanso Amore]

Ryder is wishing so hard just to get a name drop

[#1-norm-fan]

Dumb crowd. You just had your chance at a unification match and ruined it, fuckers.

[DaveBrawl]

Give Sin Cara a shot you monsters.

[ClockShot]

Time's running out, LeBron.

[SammyG]

This is stupid. Just say Daniel Bryan and get it over with.

[#1-norm-fan]

FUCK YOU, CROWD!!!

[owenbrown]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ this is going on too long ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[DaveBrawl]

You're forgetting Sin Cara.

[SammyG]

Ok, D- Bryan we know.

[#1-norm-fan]

LOL if he doesn't end up picking Bryan now.

[ron the dial]

i'm loving this build

[DaveBrawl]

Booooooooooo!

Sin Cara was robbed.

[ron the dial]

amazing

[DrCrawford]

He is so crazy over it is insane

[DaveBrawl]

Juan Cena would have picked Sin Cara.

[owenbrown]

wow way to be so fucking anti-climatic about it John

[Poit]

My goodness that pop.

[Hanso Amore]

Jesus fucking tap dancing Christ he is over

[ClockShot]

Come on, Cena.

Embrace your hatred. Strike Daniel Bryan down from behind and take your place at the heel side of the force.

[Cool King]

Well, Raw was pretty good.

Some really good matches and the main event was fantastic.

[Corndad]

Greatest Moment Ever. Hell Yes.

[GD]

Nice build up, Cena. I am anxiously looking forward to the WWE title match at SummerSlam.

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[DrCrawford]

I just keep thinking back to all of the nay sayers after he was on NXT. I think him getting fired was the best thing that could have happened to him. He has made such a name for himself

[#1-norm-fan]

WWE is gonna feel compelled to put the title on Bryan now. Ugh.

[slik]

SummerSlam looks strong early

Big E v Dolph
Sandow v Rhodes
Henry/Shield?
Kane/Wyatt?
Bryan/Cena
Lesnar/Punk

[Mr. Nerfect]

That whole segment was virtually just highlighting the fact that Daniel Bryan is possibly the most over guy in the entire WWE. That the company felt they could put guys like Randy Orton and RVD out there, name drop them and still have the "WWE Universe" select Daniel Bryan shows that they actually realise what they've got.

Between Cena vs. Bryan and Punk vs. Lesnar, I've decided that I am already going to order SummerSlam.

[dronepool]

Wow, what a pop.

[Malfeitor]

I can't wait to attend SummerSlam!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Got no clue who is going to face Alberto Del Rio at SummerSlam. Sheamus? Ziggler? I'd rather they do Big E. vs. Zigs. Maybe they will give a random shot to RVD, since they seem to want to push him and he's on a roll? Will Christian get one more match?

[Savio]

Should have picked El Dandy

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>Fucking amazing.</font>

[#1-norm-fan]

SummerSlam looks strong early

Big E v Dolph
Sandow v Rhodes
Henry/Shield?
Kane/Wyatt?
Bryan/Cena
Lesnar/Punk

Don't forget a WHC match. This has potential to be the best SummerSlam card ever.

[Mr. Nerfect]

For some reason I think Wyatt vs. Kane should be a Steel Cage Match. The idea can be that Bray will be in there with a monster without his minions to fight for him. But Wyatt can just laugh and tell Kane that he's the one that's trapped in there with a monster.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Given that spots for the card are filling up, I do think that it will probably be Del Rio vs. RVD to capitalise on RVD's return momentum. Sheamus and Orton could be partners for Henry against The Shield. They could maybe squeeze one more match onto the PPV card. I'd rather see Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara facing The Real Americans, but I could see Ryback vs. Mysterio or something like that. Is there any word on whether or not Mysterio is cleared?

[Frank Drebin]

Great show again. When you are looking forward to multiple segments going into Raw just for a build to the next ppv (The Wyatts, Bryan, Ziggler, RVD, 2 MITB cases), things are real good. Too bad its mostly downhill when Football comes back.

[slik]

I feel like a great Halloween costume idea involving two people would be to go as John Cena and Daniel Bryan from their 2003 Velocity match.

"Hey, Who are the fags in the yellow pants and the underwear"

[Mr. Nerfect]

Is it too soon after Money in the Bank for the WWE to make Cody Rhodes vs. Damien Sandow at SummerSlam a Ladder Match for the contract? I do think that their personal issues would be enough to carry the feud, but hanging the briefcase above the ring would get your casual fan far more pumped for it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm also wondering if they should give Del Rio two opponents for SummerSlam. Maybe he interrupts a #1 Contender's Match between two babyfaces and, being a foolish heel, has a Triple Threat Match made on him. It wouldn't be as great as one-on-one matches against either man, but Del Rio vs. RVD vs. Christian would tell a nice story and allow for the WWE to hype that Del Rio doesn't need to be pinned or submit to lose the title, which could get your average fan excited for the prospect of the match.

[slik]

Del Rio should drop the title to RVD

[Mr. Nerfect]

To pop the crowd, I think that would be a good move at the PPV. RVD wouldn't need to hold the title long. They could have Ziggler win it as early as Night of Champions. An RVD vs. Ziggler match could be pretty exciting.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'd laugh if they went with Del Rio vs. Triple H or something like that.

[rob11]

See, this is what I mean by sending the fans home happy. I bet under NYC there are entire subway cars with people chanting "YES! YES! YES!" It feels extra crappy knowing that and remembering sitting on a quiet subway car last night with people just looking pissed not saying anything.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hell, imagine if they just wanted to put forward the biggest blockbuster match they could for SummerSlam, and had RVD win the World Title on SmackDown or something, and have Triple H challenge RVD for the big gold belt at SummerSlam. Random match that doesn't seem to fit plans, but it would certainly add another reason to buy the PPV to the growing list.

Not sure what they would then do with Del Rio. Since they seem to want to make the Kickstart seem special, he and Christian could have an awesome match on that to warm up the crowd for the show.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'd say Brad Maddox's run as RAW General Manager is off to a good start for the young man.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Daniel Bryan should also make a challenge for Alberto Del Rio and the World Heavyweight Championship. Cena vs. Bryan and Del Rio vs. Bryan in the same night, with Bryan winning both championships but then getting cashed in on by both Orton and Sandow. Bryan's World Title win could open the PPV, and his WWE Title win could close it.

I'm joking, but that could be kind of awesome in a weird sort of way.

[dronepool]

Or he could be WWE champ for 18 seconds before Orton does a heel turn and boom.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Don't know if the fans would fully embrace heel Orton. He's still so fucking popular. Could totally see that style of cash-in at SummerSlam, though.

[Lock Jaw]

Pretty good RAW tonight. Didn't care too much for RVD/Jericho, 100% RVD's fault because I hate him with an irrational passion. Everything else was good, though.

EXCEPT. I really wish they would have built Daniel Bryan up in some way during the night. I mean, they kept going on about how CM Punk was screwed out of the briefcase... but they all seemed to just forget that it came only after D-Bry destoryed everybody and was screwed out of the case by Curtis Axel.

[blak23]

That would be an awesome way to do things

[Krimzon7]

Best segment since the pipebomb: heyman/punk. this was great

[Lock Jaw]

Also, when the Wyatt Family came to attack R-Truth I immediately thought that Wyatt was going to go on a "white power" rant. Bunch of redneck southern hillbillies lynching a black man on RAW.

[Skippord]

They're really going with "The Real Americans" as a team name. Nice.
I prefer "Team The Real Americans" personally

[Skippord]

whenever John Cena retires from wrestling he should be a Flava Flav esque hype man for other wrestlers

[Skippord]

really wish they would've said yes to Heath Slater

[Skippord]

WWE could really save me some time by consolidating CM Punk, Daniel Bryan and Dolph Ziggler into a a triple threat feud with the Shield and The Wyatt Family

[el bobbo]

For some reason I think Wyatt vs. Kane should be a Steel Cage Match. The idea can be that Bray will be in there with a monster without his minions to fight for him. But Wyatt can just laugh and tell Kane that he's the one that's trapped in there with a monster.

This sounds like an awesome match if they build it up.

This whole Summerslam sounds better than Wrestlemania right now.

[#1-norm-fan]

really wish they would've said yes to Heath Slater

They should have said yes to ADR, dammit.

THE POWER TO UNIFY THE BELTS WAS IN OUR HANDS!!!

[el bobbo]

I just finished watching RAW and I have to say... Brad fucking Maddox. Fucking love him as GM right now. He has this weird Eric Bischoff kind of personality.

[el bobbo]

This was a great episode of RAW. It showed what 3 hours can actually do for the show.

[Fignuts]

I just finished watching RAW and I have to say... Brad fucking Maddox. Fucking love him as GM right now. He has this weird Eric Bischoff kind of personality.

The haircut prolly helps too.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He was with his people in Brooklyn: hipsters.

[Tommy Gunn]

I'm open minded to the Wyatt gimmick, I'm just not really feeling it, yet.

[Innovator]

I really want Mark Henry to recruit a pseudo Nation/old partners team to face the Shield at Summerslam. Mark Henry/D'Lo (if Aces & Eights didn't kill him/exist)/MVP vs. the Shield, where D'Lo rips off his chest protector to reveal riot gear...then promptly annihilated by Mizark.

[Tommy Gunn]

Yes to MVP back in the company, no to being a goon.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Kama Mustafa

[Anybody Thrilla]

How is it that I read this entire thread, and the only thing I can think to say is 'Kama Mustafa'?

[DaveBrawl]

Because it's a pretty awesome name.

[DaveBrawl]

Gonna name my child Kama Mustafa.

[ron the dial]

KamaMustafaBrawl

[Anybody Thrilla]

He really was a Supreme Fighting Machine.

[Anybody Thrilla]

Except not really.

[Innovator]

I remember being angry at a WWE magazine article where they said he could beat Rocky Balboa

[Cool King]

Didn't care too much for RVD/Jericho, 100% RVD's fault because I hate him with an irrational passion.

I don't think I've ever came across someone who hates RVD before.

You are the first.

[Lock Jaw]

I dislike him like you dislike AJ.

[#1-norm-fan]

But you didn't REALLY dislike RVD/Jericho did you? You're just saying that as a way to discuss your hatred for RVD, right?

[Lock Jaw]

It wasn't as good as Del Rio/Ziggler, or even Orton/Fandango.

[#1-norm-fan]

Well, Orton vs Fandango was MOTY. The two masters of the art applying their craft.