Are unmarked spoilers ever OK?

[Poit]

About a year & a half ago, I made a post containing the result of a match that has happened only an hour or so previously. People told me that I needed to put it in spoiler tags, since it had been less than a day or two. So, I did.

Last night, there were multiple posts in the 100k+1 thread talking about the result of Destination X's main event. Even after people complained about spoilers, it continued. What the fuck? Do we just not care about spoiling stuff anymore here?

[CSL]

it's mostly common sense really. If there is a thread pertaining to a show that has happened recently or somebody involved in something you don't want spoiled, people simply shouldn't go in there. For them to do so and then bitch about spoilers is retarded. The 100,000 replies/TNA stuff is just the "lol TNA" mindset no matter how shitty it might be if you didn't want it spoiled, I doubt that's ever going to change :-\ Then again, there's also an argument to be made that if you don't want anything spoiling then you probably shouldn't go in the wrestling forum in general. Blatantly posting a thread entitled "JOHN CENA IS WWE CHAMPION" just after Mania would obviously be a knob move. But yeah, I'd say common sense and a bit of decency really. Pre-taped stuff is a different matter entirely.

[Theo Dious]

HULK HOGAN IS THE THIRD MAN

[DAMN iNATOR]

HULK HOGAN IS THE THIRD MAN

DAMMIT, MAN! SPOILER TAG THAT SHIT! :shifty:

[whiteyford]

Nah bit cuntish but then a mod shoulda done something really, even if it's lol TNA.

[ron the dial]

there are spoiler tags for a reason, people.

[ron the dial]

and not to hide titties and dongs. that's why we have NSFW tags.

[Cool King]

I'm all for spoiler tags, even if it's used for lol TNA.

I don't agree with the whole "if you didn't want spoilers then you shouldn't have came into the Wrestling Forum" thing, seeing as we do have spoiler tags. If spoiler tags didn't exist, then the "if you didn't want spoilers" thing would be valid.

But seeing as they do exist, then nobody should really have to think twice about entering threads in the Wrestling Forum, unless the title of the thread mentions something you don't want spoiled, for example "SmackDown Results" or "About what happened on Raw last night".

There's been a few times I've been in Poit's shoes and came across spoilers in the "100,001" Replies thread, so I know how annoyed he must be about Destination X's main event being spoiled for him.

[Lock Jaw]

Unmarked spoilers are ok in threads where you would expect to find them (EG threads dedicated to the show). If you are using the 100,001 Replies thread as a place to discuss things, like TNA, you should definitely use spoiler tags. Even better, you should make your own Destination X thread.

[Savio]

If I was mod everything would be in spoiler tags

[Tazz Dan]

I don't think things have been too bad in terms of spoilers in general recently, but the Destination X thing was a dick move by those involved in the thread. As for he continued discussion afterwards, I guess I can't see the point in them putting spoiler tags around things after they ruined it already? Not saying any of it was right, but by the time other people commented on the thread, the 'damage' was already done.

But yes, use fucking spoiler tags, shouldn't matter if its WWE, TNA, ROH, OCW or any other organisation. Bit of courtesy guys.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Spoiler tags should be used within non-show spoiler threads (i.e., a thread titled “SmackDown! Spoilers xx/xx/xxxx” should be fine as far as the initial post goes.)

[#1-norm-fan]

I can see spoilers being an issue for shows that haven't aired yet. Once they've aired though, you've gotta know you're taking a risk when you come to the forum.

[Tazz Dan]

Not everyone can see the show right away. It's a courtesy thing really, unless its in a thread that is in the show in question.

[Emperor Smeat]

I can see spoilers being an issue for shows that haven't aired yet. Once they've aired though, you've gotta know you're taking a risk when you come to the forum.

Depends where the spoilers are since Poit's issue is when those spoilers start showing up in unexpected threads or don't get tagged along with the discussion posts afterwards.

Was a bit odd since normally TNA ppvs or special shows have their own threads and in this case Destination X didn't.

Personally I've been guilty of spoiling some stuff from Smackdown in the past even after it showed but stopped once Cool King reminded me that some people in the UK don't watch the show until the day after because the original airing is like at 2am there.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Not everyone can see the show right away. It's a courtesy thing really, unless its in a thread that is in the show in question.

My point exactly. :)

[#1-norm-fan]

Personally I've been guilty of spoiling some stuff from Smackdown in the past even after it showed but stopped once Cool King reminded me that some people in the UK don't watch the show until the day after because the original airing is like at 2am there.

I don't think it should be up to people to know the show times of every event for every part of the world. When something airs, it's in your mind and becomes natural to discuss on a wrestling forum. If you're aware that a good portion of people who plan on seeing a show haven't seen a show yet, then yeah, it's a nice courtesy, but it shouldn't really be expected. You should always assume that a show that has aired to the majority of people will be discussed on a wrestling message board and if you plan on watching it and really don't want it spoiled, you should probably just hold off on coming here til you do.

[Nark Order]

Agent Coulson dies.

[James Steele]

Shocker, #1-wwf-fan being a selfish and arrogant cunt.

[#1-norm-fan]

Don't mind me guys. Just came here to bitch.

[#1-norm-fan]

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[Lock Jaw]

Agent Coulson dies.

Coulson Lives. Hashtag.

[Ruien]

I don't think it should be up to people to know the show times of every event for every part of the world. When something airs, it's in your mind and becomes natural to discuss on a wrestling forum. If you're aware that a good portion of people who plan on seeing a show haven't seen a show yet, then yeah, it's a nice courtesy, but it shouldn't really be expected. You should always assume that a show that has aired to the majority of people will be discussed on a wrestling message board and if you plan on watching it and really don't want it spoiled, you should probably just hold off on coming here til you do.

This to a extent. Creating a thread, "Orton won the WWE title!" 3 minutes after it occurred is lame.

[James Steele]

Don't mind me guys. Just came here to make unfunny jokes and post a meme nobody cares about anymore.

[James Steele]

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[James Steele]

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[Savio]

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[Kane Knight]

and not to hide titties and dongs. that's why we have NSFW tags.

Did Triple A change the rules back?

[#1-norm-fan]

James Steele knows how to start a fight on the internet, gang!

As long as he doesn't have to actually speak like a normal, social human being on a podcast or something. But when he can type it out, this man is lights out. Watch it, guys!

[James Steele]

James Steele knows how to start a fight on the internet, gang!

You know how to be a passive aggressive bitch.

[#1-norm-fan]

A lesser man might have given up 5+ hours after trying to start an internet fight. But not James Steele. He won't stop until he gets someone riled up or until he's forced to speak like a socially competent human being. Probably should be king of the forum with this kind of persistence.

(gifs coming followed by my scathing, passive aggressive response)

[Savio]

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[James Steele]

#1-wwf-fan, I am literally bleeding internally from laughing so hard at your wit and humor.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

When I don't watch Raw until later on in the night I don't go on here or facebook until I've watched it. That match being "spoiled" for me made me actually want to watch it which I did.

I guess since it's TNA nobody really gives a shit about proper spoiler conduct. Didn't even know there was a free PPV until the main event was spoiled here.

[James Steele]

Where is this whole "James Steele can't speak like a socially competent human being." thing coming from?

[#1-norm-fan]

:lol:

[James Steele]

...so you make an insult at me that you think is intelligent sounding and can't actually give evidence toward the insult towards me. That is like calling Ron Jeremy a huge faggot who cries whenever he sees vaginas.

[James Steele]

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[James Steele]

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6120927232/hBADA10D5/

I CAN POST SHITTY MEMES TOO!!!!

[#1-norm-fan]

James Steele defining the whole "Pussy little kid who gets sand kicked in his face by a bully and then runs home to make himself feel better by trying to start a fight on the internet" character.

[James Steele]

You are a dumbass.

[#1-norm-fan]

Yep. Still trying 25 posts later.

[James Steele]

You just keep making passive aggressive insults. At least I have the balls to actually confront the shithead I strongly dislike due to his willful ignorance.

[#1-norm-fan]

"I have the balls to randomly try to start internet fights."

[James Steele]

No, I made an observation about you being an arrogant cunt and you took offense to it. You have since decided to act like you are morally superior while I am still just calling a spade a spade (or a cunt a cunt). You have since proven that you are indeed a smug prick.

I've never claimed to be nice or polite, especially to those who I find absolutely worthless.

[James Steele]

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[James Steele]

That gif never gets old. Ever. Seriously. It is the comedic equivalent to meth.

[#1-norm-fan]

I see the point you're trying to get at. But I find the act of posting unmarked spoilers to be much more of a grey area than you are making it out to be. Rousing debate though.

[James Steele]

It is a dick move to post spoilers within 48 hours of a show in a thread not about the show. They created spoiler tags for a reason. Of course, you enjoy being a joyless dick who shits over anything and everything people like (except those children who need John Cena to win otherwise they may kill themselves). Also, you are still being a passive aggressive asshat.

[James Steele]

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[#1-norm-fan]

You bring up and interesting point. The 1998 Halloween Havoc PPV was cut off an hour early in many areas. Mainly the west coast. What do you believe the proper spoiler etiquette would have been in that situation immediately following the show? Feel free to answer here or make a podcast response where you're doing your best impression of Milton from Office Space and showing 2% of the passion you would show when faced with someone who disagrees with you on a message board.

[James Steele]

Use spoiler tags unless you are posting in the WCW Halloween Havoc 1998 Live Discussion Thread, and why wouldn't you keep almost all of your posts regarding a show in the thread about the show?

[James Steele]

DDP should have beaten Goldberg that night or gone on to win WW3 and beat him at Starrcade. Of course, you probably think all the children would have cried themselves to sleep and never watched wrestling again if Goldberg lost.

[James Steele]

I hope you can understand what I'm trying to say. I've been known to not to be able to communicate like a competent human being.

[James Steele]

Also, I just want to remind you that I believe you are an absolute piece of shit.

[James Steele]

eel free to answer here or make a podcast response where you're doing your best impression of Milton from Office Space and showing 2% of the passion you would show when faced with someone who disagrees with you on a message board.

Really? Did you listen to the right podcast? You might be confusing me with owenbrown. Of course, you are blatantly trolling at this point, so the only reply I can think of is the absolute funniest thing in the history of the internet:

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[#1-norm-fan]

Yeah, I would also like to go back to October of '98 to see how the spoiler situation was handled here on TPWW after that. That would indeed be intriguing.

[James Steele]

See how easy it is to use spoiler tags? It is almost as easy as keeling over in pain from laughing so hard at your pithy wit.

[#1-norm-fan]

Speaking of which, don't those TNA PPVs that were filmed months ago air all week long? If so, would it be proper etiquette to wait until the final showing of the PPV? I mean, since they're not live, no one is gonna really try that hard to catch the first showing. Maybe there should just be a week long "grace period".

[James Steele]

On a serious note, think about how lucky we are to have such easy to use spoiler tags today. When I started posting here, you had to know advanced HTML or use black text.

[James Steele]

Speaking of trying too hard, don't those TNA PPVs that were filmed months ago air all week long? If so, would it be proper etiquette to wait until the final showing of the PPV?

They actually air all month. I think it'd be proper to give them their own thread to discuss, but the results were leaked ages ago so it isn't quite the same as normal PPVs and TV. God bless TNA. They try so hard to act like a lemonade stand when all they really do is piss uphill.

Edit: FYI, it's a really steep hill and TNA has a fucked up looking penis.

It looks like the logo on the Rams helmet.
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/860/182/650980_display_image.jpg?1302750186

[James Steele]

http://canwelivehere.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/hulk-hogan.jpg?w=500

This is an example of why you should use spoiler tags. This thread isn't necessarily about Wrestler A or his matches, but many people might not want to see that.

[#1-norm-fan]

There is no God. But let's stay on topic.

If someone is a big enough TNA fan to buy one of those PPVs and actually avoid reading the spoilers for all those months leading up to it, Orton bless them.

[James Steele]

Does anybody think there is actually a big enough TNA fan to do that?

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2012/10/4/14/enhanced-buzz-1619-1349376735-3.jpg

[Juan]

James Steele - Ruining Threads Since 2004

[Lock Jaw]

Burying threads like Triple H buries wrasslers

[James Steele]

...and just like Triple H, I am still one of the most over posters in the business.

[Kane Knight]

Burying threads like Triple H buries wrasslers

Is that why the forum nearly died?