Are they starting to bury Daniel Bryan? *SPOILERS*

[snakeboss]

Looking at the latest results for Smackdown, I'm getting a little concerned about the booking of Daniel Bryan these last two weeks. I understand it's early days and the idea is to get heat on Triple H and Randy Orton, and for the crowd to root even harder for Bryan to win. But he has spent every show since Summerslam getting beaten down, isn't this going to ruin how over he is as eventually the fans will tire of him not getting any ofdensive on Orton and HHH. I may be on my own here but is anyone a little concerned with how theyre booking Bryan, unless he wins at NOC, he hasnt come out of this looking strong at all. I worry his pop will eventually start to die down.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

If they wanted to bury Daniel Bryan he wouldn't be on TV or at least he'd be having matches on Superstars or NXT.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

It really is no wonder that WWE tries to cram entire storylines into one month when this is the reaction they get after only 2 weeks.

[Juan]

oh god. Really???

[Juan]

This thread is classic "doesn't know how wrestling works" material

[Fignuts]

Like I said in the spoilers, I'm a little worried that what they're doing with big show takes a little too much focus off Bryan, but we'll see.

Otherwise no, he's not being buried, calm down.

[The Rogerer]

Daniel Bryan is in the introduction of Raw, the focal point of the show, is booked in three matches and the entire roster stands at the top of the ramp to watch his matches. I can't even remember his name.

[MoFo]

Hopefully.

[snakeboss]

I get how wrestling works, I just don't think it's the strongest booking you could give him. He's the corner stone of the show no doubt, but if he keeps getting beaten down all the time without actually finishing a show on top, eventually people will lose faith in him.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Cena overcomes the odds every night and people bitch.

Daniel Bryan doesn't overcome the odds when it's not reasonable and people complain.


Bryan is the underdog. People are behind him, and more people are getting behind him. People want to see him take down Orton, he's basically where he needs to be.

[Hanso Amore]

Apparently you have never heard of rickie Morton if you think you can't become a top face by getting beat down.

[Savio]

If Ryback pinned him I would have agreed but Ryback lost because of DQ.

Bryan is NOT getting the Rey Mysterio treatment

[Ultra Mantis]

If Bryan was beating down four very strongly booked guys at once every week would that be better?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

It really is no wonder that WWE tries to cram entire storylines into one month when this is the reaction they get after only 2 weeks.

this.

thread starter needs to shut it

[Hanso Amore]

I kind of miss the old late 90s "Autin/Kane/Taker/Rock/Sting" shows up and clears t he whole ring segements.

Like Austin comes out and throws down 15-20 Stunners in about 2 minutes while guys wait their spot in line to eat one.

But that would be pure stupid right now.

[Hanso Amore]

Faces have to beat everyone every time, and Heels can never win they can only get beat up and be chickenshit heels.

The Universe has spoken.

[JimmyMess]

Its just an example of "oh shit Cena is hurt... we better ... think of something quick "

[weather vane]

Lol @ everybody being a dick to the new guy for just starting a decently intelligent thread...

[Savio]

Thats the formula of TPWW

New topic
bad joke
reply full of hate
reply full of hate
reply full of hate
reply full of hate
reply full of hate
reply full of hate
joke
reply full of hate
reply full of hate
Someone discusses the topic

[Tom Guycott]

I get how wrestling works, I just don't think it's the strongest booking you could give him. He's the corner stone of the show no doubt, but if he keeps getting beaten down all the time without actually finishing a show on top, eventually people will lose faith in him.

There's a difference between Daniel Bryan catching beatdowns when the odds are overwhelmingly against him and "being booked weak".

Examples of weak booking are when Punk was champion, but REPEATEDLY LOSING CLEAN nearly every week in non-title main events. Takes bite out of claiming to be the "best in the world" when he was repeatedly counting lights. When Christian started that "one more match" thing (bearng in mind he was a heel... that already didn't help), it made him look weak because the kept blowing his chances and loopholing his way into another title match only to lose again and again. If he were champion and retaining by shady circumstance, it would have gotten te heat they were looking for. Instead, it made him look like a whiny pussy who didn't deserve a chance in spite of winning the damned thing twice.

Bryan fearlessly putting up a good fight in the face of an impending quadruple team butt whipping with nobody able to help because of HHH's threats just makes Bryan look like the most baddest of asses. He's not flat-out jobbing to people way down the card, either. The Shield has been booked to be a force to be reconed with since day one. All 4 men kicking Bryan's ass are currently holding gold. Individually againstthem, he's holding his own and against The Shield, he has defended himself ALONE in a stronger showing than Mark Henry or even The Undertaker have in the same sitch.

Daniel Bryan will outpop DX eight times over when he finally wins, as it'll be a big screw you to not just Orton, but the entire system in place to keep him down. He'll be fine.

[snakeboss]

Lol @ everybody being a dick to the new guy for just starting a decently intelligent thread...

Thanks, I appreciate that, I've actually been a member here since 2004 though. Though I rarely post. People get too offended and try too hard to be intelligent and all knowing. In the end guys, we're a bunch of people posting on a wrestling forum, just saying. Who are you impressing?

But yeah, mainly I feel WWE is booking Bryan badly because I feel he needs to get back at the corporation. Perhaps that will come in time, but at the moment it's frustrating seeing him get beat down every raw/Smackdown. If he wins at NOC, fair play. If he doesn't...not a good month for him.

I apologise again for expressing my opinion. Continue to cry.

[snakeboss]

Bare in mind, some TPWW posters are actually here to discuss wrestling and I respect that, the ones who get upset and feel the need to be superior...go ahead...

[Juan]

I feel WWE is booking Bryan badly because I feel he needs to get back at the corporation.

The thing is, the angle is 3 WEEKS OLD. How long did Vince McMahon fuck with Steve Austin before Austin finally gave him that first Stunner?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

the angle has JUST started.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Bare in mind, some TPWW posters are actually here to discuss wrestling and I respect that, the ones who get upset and feel the need to be superior...go ahead...

lol be quiet.

[snakeboss]

Lol nah you're alright.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I don't nec think that they're gonna follow through with a great angle, they tend to lose focus. But if you have him get beat down for a while, while continuously being a thorn in "the corporation's" side, the fans will be frothing at the mouth for him to elbow and knee motherfuckers in the mouth, and if they do things right and he delivers that first devestating beat down, or wins the championship, then it'll be worth it.

[dalegendkilla]

WWE angles always seem to lose focus.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

WWE angles always seem to lose focus.

Which I said. But that doesn't mean hotshotting the angle will make it any better.

[Kane Knight]

So, at the risk of my comment being labeled a "joke," is Bryan being "buried" in the same way CM Punk was in the "doghouse?" This is what I infer from the comments, that he lost once and people are suddenly freaking out because of it.

Which is pretty much both the origin of CM Punk being "in the doghouse" and all the "doghouse" jokes.

I feel I used too many quotes. Maybe I'm turning into Triple A.

[Savio]

The thing is, the angle is 3 WEEKS OLD. How long did Vince McMahon fuck with Steve Austin before Austin finally gave him that first Stunner?
Vince didn't really have Austin beat down in the beginning of their angle, its quite different. In fact I think Austin attacked him first.

[Juan]

Vince didn't really have Austin beat down in the beginning of their angle, its quite different. In fact I think Austin attacked him first.

My point is that they didn't hotshot the angle, not who attacked who first.

[Savio]

I don't think they should either, and I don't think he is getting buried aswell, I do understand peoples concerns however.

[Lock Jaw]

I heard a rumor that Daniel Bryan is in the doghouse.

[Lock Jaw]

(CM Punk is still there too)

[Emperor Smeat]

No since the storyline only recently started and right now is focused on getting the crowd to really hate Orton and Triple H. The crowd still pops for both Orton and Triple H which is what the WWE doesn't want right now.

Bryan's payback is going to occur a lot slower than Cena who sort of ruined the "overcoming the odds" thing by doing it soo much and very quickly into feuds.

[Ruien]

The whole Austin thing only had Raw to work with. I am fine with Smackdown not progressing the storyline, in a significant manner. The whole storyline could be left off Smackdown and I would be fine with it.

There should be the main Raw and Smackdown storyline. You know, the whole two separate belt thing.

[voncouch]

It's been 2 weeks, way too early to make any judgement. I understand the concern. We all know that the nWo got boring after beating down people at the end of every show for over a year, but again, it's only been 2 weeks. If they keep doing this 2 months down the line, then we may have a problem.

[Nowhere Man]

I've mentioned this on the podcast before, but in the long-term, this feud is absolute gold (if they don't screw it up and job Bryan out at the last second to make way for Cena once he's healthy again). Pairing Orton with a corporate heel Triple H (and not a cheer-for-him-anyway "cool heel" Trips, but a full-on power-abusing asshole Trips) and having him steal the title away from Bryan makes for a perfect heel for both the smark and mark crowds: the marks hate him because he's a bad guy who stole the title, the smarks hate him because collectively with the McMahon clan, they represent everything wrong with the business. And Bryan is the perfect counter to that-- the "YES!" stuff and his tag team run with Kane got him over with the marks, and he's already been over with the smarks thanks to years of classic matches both in WWE and in the indies. So you've got a feud that just about everyone can get behind.

And a big part of that is that early on, Bryan has to get denied. He has to face long odds and get visibly put down by the McMahon Dynasty, so that when he does finally work his way back to Orton and make him tap out, it will be that much sweeter (again, assuming they don't just go "Oh look, Cena's back, time for another Cena/Orton feud!") because right now we're basically seeing played out on screen something that we all kind of assume happens backstage anyway--a crony of Trips or Vince getting a push he doesn't deserve and more talented wrestlers getting buried to make him look good-- and then Bryan ultimately winning will be a cathartic "breaking the cycle" moment.

That said......my absolute favorite wrestler in the world has ended the show getting KO'ed by my absolute least favorite wrestler in the world for four shows straight, so......yeah, it's kind of a bitter pill to swallow at the moment.

[Rammsteinmad]

Remember when Punk's first loss in the WWE went to Hardcore Holly, and people thought that was it for him.

[Juan]

OR when Punk lost to Kane at the PPV after winning MITB and everyone flipped out

[Juan]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/67X94I-r6bg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Shadrick]

*batista pyro goes off behind me*

[Nark Order]

Honestly, I dont think Bryan will ever be as big as tjat night at Summerslam now. These past two RAWs have completely sucked all of his momentum away. Now the Big Show thing. Guys, they made a mistake. It isn't too late to correct, but this has been really awful booking since SS. Like irresponsible. The fans were so ravenous and retribution seeking after SS and now it is getting progressively harder to care as the heels are getting the upper hand every week. The iron is luke warm right now when it was white hot only two weeks ago.

[James Steele]

Really?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

It wouldn't really be a very fun angle if Bryan instantly got the better of a heel stable consisting of 5 very strongly booked guys. He obviously will get the upper hand eventually, but don't they really need to build up the threat to make it even mean anything?

Also Triple H and Orton were two pretty huge faces so they kinda need to make them seem like huge dickheads to stop people cheering for them. Seems like it's all been solid so far. Hasn't it only been like two weeks?

[ron the dial]

GIVE HIM ALL OF THE TITLES NOW

i'm not even sure who i'm making fun of. everybody. fuck off this with thread.

[ortonisawful]

I've mentioned this on the podcast before, but in the long-term, this feud is absolute gold (if they don't screw it up and job Bryan out at the last second to make way for Cena once he's healthy again). Pairing Orton with a corporate heel Triple H (and not a cheer-for-him-anyway "cool heel" Trips, but a full-on power-abusing asshole Trips) and having him steal the title away from Bryan makes for a perfect heel for both the smark and mark crowds: the marks hate him because he's a bad guy who stole the title, the smarks hate him because collectively with the McMahon clan, they represent everything wrong with the business. And Bryan is the perfect counter to that-- the "YES!" stuff and his tag team run with Kane got him over with the marks, and he's already been over with the smarks thanks to years of classic matches both in WWE and in the indies. So you've got a feud that just about everyone can get behind.

And a big part of that is that early on, Bryan has to get denied. He has to face long odds and get visibly put down by the McMahon Dynasty, so that when he does finally work his way back to Orton and make him tap out, it will be that much sweeter (again, assuming they don't just go "Oh look, Cena's back, time for another Cena/Orton feud!") because right now we're basically seeing played out on screen something that we all kind of assume happens backstage anyway--a crony of Trips or Vince getting a push he doesn't deserve and more talented wrestlers getting buried to make him look good-- and then Bryan ultimately winning will be a cathartic "breaking the cycle" moment.

That said......my absolute favorite wrestler in the world has ended the show getting KO'ed by my absolute least favorite wrestler in the world for four shows straight, so......yeah, it's kind of a bitter pill to swallow at the moment.

Orqueer really is stunningly awful at absolutely everything he does. How Worst Wrestling Ever has given him so many world title runs is mind-rottingly befuddling. He still struggles to get any kind of heat whatsoever outside of the idiot female fans who pop for his appearance.

[Nark Order]

You build to achieve reactions that Bryan was already getting months ago. That's what a build is for. Slowly building now is just taking away from momentum that Bryan already had. You don't need to build with a guy that's already at the pinnacle of his popularity.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The thing is, the angle is 3 WEEKS OLD. How long did Vince McMahon fuck with Steve Austin before Austin finally gave him that first Stunner?

Vince got stunned because he said he cared about Austin's neck and didn't want him to compete until he was ready. Austin started it.

[Juan]

Vince got stunned because he said he cared about Austin's neck and didn't want him to compete until he was ready. Austin started it.

My point is that they didn't hotshot the angle, not who attacked who first.

[Juan]

Randy Orqueer

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

You build to achieve reactions that Bryan was already getting months ago. That's what a build is for. Slowly building now is just taking away from momentum that Bryan already had. You don't need to build with a guy that's already at the pinnacle of his popularity.

By saying somebody is that the pinnacle of their popularity, you're the one who is short changing Daniel Bryan. How do you know he couldn't become any more popular?

[Kane Knight]

GIVE HIM ALL OF THE TITLES NOW

i'm not even sure who i'm making fun of. everybody. fuck off this with thread.

Everybody had it coming.

[Dark One]

GIVE HIM ALL OF THE TITLES NOW

i'm not even sure who i'm making fun of. everybody. fuck off this with thread.

I'd just like to take this opportunity to say that I officially embrace Ron the Dial as king and retroactively change all of my votes to him--even in the brackets he wasn't involved in.

[snakeboss]

From PWINSIDER:


WWE is doing what they think will make Bryan a stronger name down the line. They see this as just the first chapter in a longer-running storyline involving Daniel Bryan, Randy Orton, HHH and Bryan's pursuit of the WWE title. To me, it is dangerously similar to the storyline with CM Punk post-Summerslam 2011 with HHH and Kevin Nash involved. That scenario ended with Punk losing a lot of his momentum, forcing him to work really hard to get back to where he was. I really hope that in the end, Daniel Bryan doesn't have to go through the same journey. The crowd loves him and he works a tremendously entertaining style in the ring. If all of this leads to him eating a Pedigree and being pinned, it was a waste of time. If it leads to Bryan eventually winning the WWE title and having a nice run with it, I am all for the storyline. I just wish they had given his fans 24 hours to really savor the first title win. Instead, they switched the belt and killed that moment of joy and any potential PPV replay buys.

---------------------------------------

So I'm not completely crazy then? That's exactly what I have been saying. In short, if Daniel Bryan ends this Raw on his back, be concerned. If he doesn't, all is forgiven!

[whiteyford]

Didn't everyone complain when Punk came back to early and said he shoulda had a few months 'away' with the title? Pretty sure there's a lot of folk here who grumble about the lack of long term booking anymore, and maybe I'm old fashioned but long term is longer than 3 weeks to me so not really seeing an issue with a guy getting beaten down by the US champ, the TAG champs, all 3 of which form a very dominant unit which was booked as unstoppable for months and the WWE champion and yet he's still booked strong and is allowed offense.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Lol would there really be people who would be savouring for 24 hours over a wrestler they liked being the champion? Can't imagine it would really affect people's days all that much

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Just picturing some big fat St Jimmy guy, sweating away in an office at work in a miserable mood because a guy he liked isnt the WWE champion, hoping the next day will be better when he gets his revenge on Raw.

[whiteyford]

I mean if he was getting jobbed out to the combined force of Ryder, Bo Dallas and Hornswoggle every week then maybe I'd be concerned but he's getting beaten down by three guys who the company has made a point of showcasing as an effective cohesive unit who have went over every big name they've faced, including Cena/Rock/Undertaker etc.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Also how are they not "striking while the iron's hot?" It's not as though he's in a US title feud or just losing to any old midcarder. He's the protagonist in the main feud in the company, and a storyline that could well become one of their biggest in years if they go all out with a corporation-esque stable in the long term.

Threads like this are the reason so many people look down on IWC idiots.

[The Rogerer]

The thought process is the sort of childish superhero league table that makes people like Cena always win

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

From PWINSIDER:


WWE is doing what they think will make Bryan a stronger name down the line. They see this as just the first chapter in a longer-running storyline involving Daniel Bryan, Randy Orton, HHH and Bryan's pursuit of the WWE title. To me, it is dangerously similar to the storyline with CM Punk post-Summerslam 2011 with HHH and Kevin Nash involved. That scenario ended with Punk losing a lot of his momentum, forcing him to work really hard to get back to where he was. I really hope that in the end, Daniel Bryan doesn't have to go through the same journey. The crowd loves him and he works a tremendously entertaining style in the ring. If all of this leads to him eating a Pedigree and being pinned, it was a waste of time. If it leads to Bryan eventually winning the WWE title and having a nice run with it, I am all for the storyline. I just wish they had given his fans 24 hours to really savor the first title win. Instead, they switched the belt and killed that moment of joy and any potential PPV replay buys.

---------------------------------------

So I'm not completely crazy then? That's exactly what I have been saying. In short, if Daniel Bryan ends this Raw on his back, be concerned. If he doesn't, all is forgiven!

He is basing his complaints off what ifs. I do agree if he loses to the pedigree it is kind of retarded, but he HASN'T lost to the pedigree. And this whole angle has been planned for a while.

This is honestly why the IWC is considered retarded.

[snakeboss]

Or it's people who know that if this continues, Bryan's momentum could die down, it's happened before.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Look. If Daniel Bryan can recover from jobbing out to Sheamus in 18 seconds in the curtain jerker at wrestlemania, he'll be fine no matter what happens.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

And I don't know... this isn't the fucking power rangers, we aren't 6-years-old. Bad guys need to get the heat, or else Bryan fucking them up won't mean anything.

I honestly wish people would just sit back and enjoy that one of the most talented guys in the business is getting a break, even if he isn't being booked as super man.

[Innovator]

The HUGE difference between the Summer of Punk and the Summer of Bryan is that HHH is a heel now. When he was a face he was still pandering, trying to be cool, glomming the babyface reactions from Punk. Now that he's a heel, he's doing what he does best: BEING A HEEL.

Flair and the Horsemen had the upper hand constantly in Mid South. Faces don't need to stand tall every week.

[Ultra Mantis]

On Smackdown he ran off the Shield and Orton by himself to save The Miz. Then he had Ryback beat clean until Orton caused the DQ, and Orton never even managed to get a shot in before Bryan had him in the Yes Lock, forcing the Shield to save him. Hardly making him look weak.

[whiteyford]

You folk and your common sense make me sick!

[The Rogerer]

If there's a potential problem with Daniel Bryan, it's the pedestal effect. They find something popular, and in then trying to package it as popular, destroy it...

Cody Rhodes is popular in spite of his associating with Sandow. Splitting them apart and facing them off is a climax too early and they're left with nowhere to go.

Ziggler has building momentum, in part because of his cool stable. Once they notice he's popular? Remove him from his stable. AJ and Big E get to keep that momentum, Ziggler is left with nothing and nowhere to go.

Fandangoing. Hey, this is pretty cool, so let's get Grandad Lawler into the ring to TELL you to do that thing you were spontaneously doing.

[snakeboss]

I think it all depends on whether DB wins this feud. If he does, it's a great story of revenge. If he doesn't and Orton moves on to CM Punk, DB is damaged.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Why not just chill out and watch the show you like then? And see what happens. Rather than overanalysing it all before anything even happens.

[snakeboss]

I do watch it and enjoy it. But this is a discussion board...what else are we meant to discuss other than the storylines we're interested in?

[Wehttam]

this angle is good because they are making some of the iwc look like complete marks

it's amazing

[CharismaInjection]

I do watch it and enjoy it. But this is a discussion board...what else are we meant to discuss other than the storylines we're interested in?

Fair point.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Because the discussion is coming off as whining that your favourite wrestler isn't winning every match.

[whiteyford]

He isn't being buried at all though, he's allowed to look competitive against 3/4 guys before getting beaten down, all of whom hold titles and are presented as being dominant. But probably the biggest gripe everyone has with this thread is that it's only been 2/3 weeks since Summerslam.

[snakeboss]

I wouldn't necessarily call it whining when he's been beaten down and humiliated five shows in a row. But I can understand it's a bit early to be concerned, I just know that WWE have a history of not following angles through how they should.

[whiteyford]

But he looks strong, he's getting beaten down by a group of guys who took out the Undertaker/Rock/Cena/Big Show/Mark Henry etc. and the WWE champion, he's holding his own far longer than any of them did, I don't think you fully understand what being buried is.

[Kane Knight]

this angle is good because they are making some of the iwc look like complete marks

it's amazing

The IWC doesn't need help on that front.

[snakeboss]

My understanding of being buried is being made to lose and look weak for a long time as to no longer look like a credible competitor. I know that's not the case with Bryan, but it's the term I used to mean "lose momentum".

[Wehttam]

The IWC doesn't need help on that front.
i still find it hilarious though.

[dronepool]

What if Bryan wins the RR and finally gets justice at WM30 as Cena returns to raise his and hand turn heel?


But yeah, Bryan #1 at RR and winning would be epic.

[ron the dial]

WHERE'S MY FUCKING PAYOFF

[ron the dial]

i think bryan looked really strong on smackdown, and so did orton/the shield. win win.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Everyone has looked fucking amazing in this. I totally don't get how Bryan has been "buried" at all. Didn't he technically beat the fucking Shield by himself on RAW? And then Ryback on SmackDown? The WWE is milking this chase for what it's worth.

Bryan will look like he has the title won at Night of Champions and then get screwed in a fashion that prevents him from walking out WWE Champion. Battleground can then feature Bryan vs. Triple H and Orton vs. Big Show for the WWE Title or something.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

If he faces HHH he NEEDS to beat him. Mr. Small Package NEEDS to prevail. If HHH beats Bryan, even unclean, Vince is actually retarded.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've got a feeling that Daniel Bryan will face Triple H at the Hell in a Cell PPV this year. I could see Bryan making Triple H tap out in his own match.

[Mr Burns]

I think Triple H will put him over if they have a match.

[Heyman]

Looking at the latest results for Smackdown, I'm getting a little concerned about the booking of Daniel Bryan these last two weeks. I understand it's early days and the idea is to get heat on Triple H and Randy Orton, and for the crowd to root even harder for Bryan to win. But he has spent every show since Summerslam getting beaten down, isn't this going to ruin how over he is as eventually the fans will tire of him not getting any ofdensive on Orton and HHH. I may be on my own here but is anyone a little concerned with how theyre booking Bryan, unless he wins at NOC, he hasnt come out of this looking strong at all. I worry his pop will eventually start to die down.

Again, just a fucking ridiculous comment to make.

I truly hope to god that the WWE does NOT listen to the Internet Wrestling Community at ALL, and instead, focuses on the crowd reactions of their live target audience and Nielsen ratings as they were doing during the Attitude Era.

So legitimately annoyed right now. :foc:

[seapig4]

I think it all depends on whether DB wins this feud. If he does, it's a great story of revenge. If he doesn't and Orton moves on to CM Punk, DB is damaged.

Of course Bryan will eventually win the feud. I don't understand why you want him to win at NOC.

[Kane Knight]

i still find it hilarious though.

The IWC has always been a sort of perpetual, slow-mo train wreck.

And it is glorious.

[Mr Burns]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/ahZ6rjhiQ7g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[ron the dial]

no, he was cremated.

[ron the dial]

after telling that joke, i feel as dirty as the undertaker when cm punk dumped those very same ashes on him. i'm ashamed of myself.

[Bad News Gertner]

I never should have left TPWW.

Look at the nonsense going on. I would have squashed this thread like a bug.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

You didn't even leave. You just lurked. You're no better than PorkSoda and owenbrown.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Now Droford on the other hand is a real man of honour.

[snakeboss]

It's all a matter of opinion, if you disagree with mine, that's fair enough! Considering there's been a number of articles talking about what I've been talking about, I'm clearly not the only one whose mind it has crossed! Having said that, I can see your point too however, it's called a debate!

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Wahhhhhhh. Wahhhhhhhhhh.

[snakeboss]

Haha such a fag!

[Bad News Gertner]

You're lucky you have an avatar of a wrestling God

[Wehttam]

Considering there's been a number of articles talking about what I've been talking about, I'm clearly not the only one whose mind it has crossed!
yea and those are the type of people who can't believe or don't understand they are being completely worked. like you.

[snakeboss]

Well if I'm being worked, then good job on the WWE!

[Nark Order]

Why is everyone being so aggressive?

[Lock Jaw]

RUTHLESS AGGRESSION

[Wehttam]

Why is everyone being so aggressive?

you shut up, you

[ron the dial]

Why is everyone being so aggressive?
this is one forum where i definitely encourage open hostility. something has to keep it interesting.

[Hanso Amore]

I wish we could make it a policy that you have to fight and defeat a mod to post a thread.

[Wehttam]

it would be exactly how it is now

if owenbrown were mod

[ron the dial]

make me a mod. i will fight everyone.

[snakeboss]

Good episode of Raw there folks...

[Savio]

I feel asleep during the main event but I think they should have let Bryan pin Show.

[seapig4]

I'm still fine with all the Bryan stuff.

[snakeboss]

First is denial. (They're not ruining Bryan's push!)
Second is anger. (This is getting OLD FAST now!)
Third is fear. (He has to win the WWE title or this will be for nothing!)
Fourth is bargainy. (I will boycott WWE if Bryan loses)
Fifth is finally acceptance. (And thus ends Bryan's run as "top dog")

[Savio]

If TNA was running this Bryan would either win the title before or the show right after the PPV

[whiteyford]

First is denial. (They're not ruining Bryan's push!)
Second is anger. (This is getting OLD FAST now!)
Third is fear. (He has to win the WWE title or this will be for nothing!)
Fourth is bargainy. (I will boycott WWE if Bryan loses)
Fifth is finally acceptance. (And thus ends Bryan's run as "top dog")

Indulge me for a moment if you wheel, look out there, to the future, no not robot maids that's the Jetson's but I dunno, lets say 6 months or so from now, what do you see? Why there's a whole bunch of PPVs, and what's that, Wrestlemania?????? Gee whizz skipper wouldn't that be a wonderful memorable and defining moment if he were to finally get his revenge on the 'grandest stage of them all' after finally overcoming the odds? I mean it's like they planned it from the start, to have him chase the title and build him up as a legit main eventer when he finally wins rather than hot shotting the title on him after a couple of months. I know that's unprecedented, nobody has ever had a program that ran more than 4 weeks in the history of our sport, but gosh darn it I want to dream big.

[Bad News Gertner]

Ryback would have done WAY better

[#1-norm-fan]

Ryback may have been the biggest "dropped ball" in WWE history. They had to actually put effort into fucking up with him.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

And now he has less time in the ring so I have less time skipping Ryback matches, which is always fun.

I should really buy whoever was in charge of Ryback's creative direction once he got into title matches dinner. I hope it's Steph.

[snakeboss]

Indulge me for a moment if you wheel, look out there, to the future, no not robot maids that's the Jetson's but I dunno, lets say 6 months or so from now, what do you see? Why there's a whole bunch of PPVs, and what's that, Wrestlemania?????? Gee whizz skipper wouldn't that be a wonderful memorable and defining moment if he were to finally get his revenge on the 'grandest stage of them all' after finally overcoming the odds? I mean it's like they planned it from the start, to have him chase the title and build him up as a legit main eventer when he finally wins rather than hot shotting the title on him after a couple of months. I know that's unprecedented, nobody has ever had a program that ran more than 4 weeks in the history of our sport, but gosh darn it I want to dream big.

Now we both know that wont happen. Cena wil return at Royal Rumble and win, he will then proceed to challenge Orton for the title in the main event. Now I love D Bryan, he's my favourite wrestler and I've been following his career for years and years, but this feud is NOT setting up a WM main event, and D Bryan will not headline (unfortunately, in my opinion :/)

[whiteyford]

Not like Cena would want a crack at the Undertaker or anything, or Brock, matches that might not be available next year.

[snakeboss]

Either way, that would be the main event.

[whiteyford]

As they like to point out themselves there is more than one main event match at 'mania.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

I've been following John Cena's career for years and years and I believe he should headline Wrestlemania.

[ron the dial]

Ryback would have done WAY better

lol you joker

[snakeboss]

As they like to point out themselves there is more than one main event match at 'mania.

The main event will always be the last match on a lot of people's opinions.

[#1-norm-fan]

The whole "multiple main event" thing is just to make the card sound like a bigger deal. Really, if you look at a match and say "There's no WAY it's going on last", then "main event" is just a meaningless term.

Hell, Daniel Bryan and Sheamus opened WrestleMania 28 with an 18 second match that was promoted going in as one of the main events. That's how much meaning the term has in WWE's world.

[#1-norm-fan]

If they do build this all up to Bryan vs Orton for the title at WrestleMania though, I can kinda see the possibility of it actually headlining. If they stretch it out that long and let it keep building somehow (which I have my doubts they can/will) then it would have some massive anticipation.

[BigCrippyZ]

If they do build this all up to Bryan vs Orton for the title at WrestleMania though, I can kinda see the possibility of it actually headlining. If they stretch it out that long and let it keep building somehow (which I have my doubts they can/will) then it would have some massive anticipation.

I too have my doubts about this, but if they do manage to keep it building, I still feel like they'll have to have someone else (Cody maybe?) feud with Orton for the title around the Rumble. Then between January and WM have Bryan feud with HHH/Shield/Corp2.0 over the right to face Orton at WM.

[mike adamle]

If they do build this all up to Bryan vs Orton for the title at WrestleMania though, I can kinda see the possibility of it actually headlining. If they stretch it out that long and let it keep building somehow (which I have my doubts they can/will) then it would have some massive anticipation.

I don't see this feud going passed the Royal Rumble, I think Cena will probably be the one to dethrone Orton whenever he comes back from his injury, and Bryan will probably win the Rumble, and we get Bryan-Cena II at WrestleMania where Bryan finally gets his moment.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Am I the only one who doesn't really see Orton as a heel to headline WrestleMania? I don't know what it is about him -- maybe it's because he's been away from the title so long. He'll no doubt do something important, but I just can't see Orton vs. Cena, Orton vs. Punk or Orton vs. Bryan closing WrestleMania.

[snakeboss]

Tomorrow is looming!

[DAMN iNATOR]

It's all a matter of opinion, if you disagree with mine, that's fair enough! Considering there's been a number of articles talking about what I've been talking about, I'm clearly not the only one whose mind it has crossed! Having said that, I can see your point too however, it's called a debate!

Let's just see where things go, one show at a time before jumping to any definitive conclusions here. Sound good to you?

[snakeboss]

Sounds good to me! Fingers crossed tomorrow doesn't end with Bryan down on the mat!

[Vastardikai]

I predict, to change things up, Raw ends with Bryan down on the mat at the hands of Stephanie.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ryback may have been the biggest "dropped ball" in WWE history. They had to actually put effort into fucking up with him.

Fans wanted nothing to do with him except chanting feed me more. Goldberg chants killed him.

[Vastardikai]

Fans wanted nothing to do with him except chanting feed me more. Goldberg chants killed him.

Considering how most folks get NO chants...or reaction... AT ALL.

[#1-norm-fan]

Fans wanted nothing to do with him except chanting feed me more. Goldberg chants killed him.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/wOy6b6X9lws" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Listen to that crowd wanting nothing to do with Ryback.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

One crowd.

[#1-norm-fan]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/32TSoJrBIjI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Listen to those two crowds wanting nothing to do with Ryback.

[#1-norm-fan]

Considering how most folks get NO chants...or reaction... AT ALL.

Also, this. "People ONLY chanted his catchphrase", even if you do ignore the fact that he was one of the VERY few guys actually getting a reaction at all, is a ridiculous attempt to find ways to deny how over the guy was.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Daniel Bryan is the very definition of getting over via catchphrase

[Shadrick]

Fan do you think that has more to do with Ryback being over, or people just wanting to see Punk get killed?

[ron the dial]

i think ryback was massively over. but i also don't believe that he has the tools to handle a sustained push at the top. at least not now.

[screech]

Bring back Skip Sheffield

[#1-norm-fan]

Fan do you think that has more to do with Ryback being over, people just wanting to see Punk get killed?

Well considering Punk was being praised for getting cheered during the Undertaker feud because he was "such a good heel", I'd say you need to pick one reaction or the other to signify "it's all Punk, fuck the other guy". Plus, I don't think anyone could have just come in and won matches and then face off with Punk anf had the crowd going crazy. It had to be someone who came off as the "next big thing" in wrestling. Which I think Ryback was. Until they jobbed him out to the Shield and Mark Henry, turned him a heel and then jobbed him to Cena.

[Vastardikai]

I just thought of this: how different would WWE be right now if Ryback hadn't messed up lifting Tensai on that Raw.

[#1-norm-fan]

Wait...

Thread about The Usos (http://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?p=4287805#post4287805)

They're over. WWE is finally realizing that.

Crowd pops for them. They never don't say "SO" when they say Us.

This very thread...

Fans wanted nothing to do with him except chanting feed me more.

... Wait, what?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ryback sucks. Deal with it.

[#1-norm-fan]

Good response to what I posted. I guess we're done here now.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

lol SlickyTrickyDemon continuing to be one of the dumbest poster on the tpww.

[Mr. Nerfect]

i think ryback was massively over. but i also don't believe that he has the tools to handle a sustained push at the top. at least not now.

This. Ryback was over, but he wasn't "white-hot." It was a combination of him being pushed as a monster, his catchphrase being an easy thing to latch onto and Punk being so hated. I never for a moment thought that Ryback was the right choice to put over Punk, ever, but I do think that there has been some mishandling of his character at times. They never should have put him into the scene with Punk, but given that they did, they probably needed to go another route with him.

When you think about it, the build to WrestleMania probably should have seen Big Show and Ryback cross-paths with Big Show as World Heavyweight Champion. Show and Ryback get into a stare-down and Ryback attacks Show and hits him with Shell-Shocked after he successfully defends the World Title against Sheamus or something. Dolph Ziggler chooses that moment to cash in his briefcase and he becomes the new World Champion. Do this at the Royal Rumble and have Ryback later compete in the Rumble Match, go on a tear, only for Big Show to come out and eliminate him without being a participant himself.

This sets up Dolph Ziggler vs. Chris Jericho for the World Heavyweight Title and Big Show vs. Ryback for Mania. Fandango would have done something else amazing.

[Savio]

Tomorrow is looming!
It always is.

[scatterbrain28]

What else are they gonna do with the guy. When he was a face, he squashed his jobber for 5 minutes, and that was it. At least as a heel, he can be someone you want to see defeated instead of "oh, he got another win."

[Fignuts]

Yeah I didn't really enjoy Ryback til he went heel.

[whiteyford]

So Bryan came out on top this week, have they pushed him too hard now?

[whiteyford]

I am of course being a twat.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Too Hard

[Swiss Ultimate]

Best tag team name ever?

[whiteyford]

Russo era tag team that never was.

[Swiss Ultimate]

We need a time travel angle.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Did any of the WWE games have a time-travel angle where you went back and interfered in major matches like Hart VS. Yoko, Hogan's Heel-turn etc?

[Sepholio]

I can't recall but that actually sounds like a solid premise for a game.

[CBright7831]

Are they going to refer to Bryan's high knee move as "the move that beat John Cena" for now on?

[snakeboss]

Bryan came out on top because he's going to lose on Sunday. So it was a good booking decision as if Bryan got beat down again and lost at NOC, it would genuinely destroy him.

[whiteyford]

So that part of booking you understand but not the idea of a guy getting booked strong but being on the losing end of a 3 man beatdown?

[#1-norm-fan]

Are they going to refer to Bryan's high knee move as "the move that beat John Cena" for now on?

The Cena Stopper.

[whiteyford]

You just know it's going to be called something daft like the Goats Beard knee.

[#1-norm-fan]

By the way, I know "push him to the main event" is too much to ask since he's a comedy character and all but WWE should make it a point to put focus on Santino in some way every week. The guy is unbelievably good at what he does. He's just a natural entertainer.

[whiteyford]

You always get the 'rumours' about him getting a more serious push, they actually mentioned his judo/MMA stuff last night so maybe they will, even if just to give us the Honky meter back.

[Hanso Amore]

We need a time travel angle.

New Breed

[Ruien]

Whitey, stop being so hard on Snakeboss :( He seems like a good enough guy.

[snakeboss]

So that part of booking you understand but not the idea of a guy getting booked strong but being on the losing end of a 3 man beatdown?

I understand that, but for 7 shows straight, it starts to lose a little steam wouldn't you say?

And thanks Ruien! I'm not a 'troll' or anything like that, I'm just a wrestling fan!

[#1-norm-fan]

You always get the 'rumours' about him getting a more serious push, they actually mentioned his judo/MMA stuff last night so maybe they will, even if just to give us the Honky meter back.

I've said before a gimmick where they use his MMA background and have someone like William Regal "teach him to fight" so he can win matches while he still acts silly outside the ring would be awesome. All these heels who take his silly, fun-loving nature as weakness taunt him and then just beats the fuck out of them. Santino has the mic work and the legit fighting ability to pull it off beautifully.

[whiteyford]

I understand that, but for 7 shows straight, it starts to lose a little steam wouldn't you say?

And thanks Ruien! I'm not a 'troll' or anything like that, I'm just a wrestling fan!

He singlehandedly beat the Shield last week, granted by DQ, but they've lost how many times? He's being booked strong and is getting taken out by 4 or 5 guys normally, he's as over if not more so than he was when this angle started so I don't get the buried/losing steam argument at all.

[whiteyford]

I've said before a gimmick where they use his MMA background and have someone like William Regal "teach him to fight" so he can win matches while he still acts silly outside the ring would be awesome. All these heels who take his silly, fun-loving nature as weakness taunt him and then just beats the fuck out of them. Santino has the mic work and the legit fighting ability to pull it off beautifully.

Yeah as long as they let him keep his character, don't see it getting above midcard but the guy does seem genuinely over and it would freshen up the US/IC title.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've said before a gimmick where they use his MMA background and have someone like William Regal "teach him to fight" so he can win matches while he still acts silly outside the ring would be awesome. All these heels who take his silly, fun-loving nature as weakness taunt him and then just beats the fuck out of them. Santino has the mic work and the legit fighting ability to pull it off beautifully.

I like this, but I was thinking on RAW that it would have been quite funny to have Marella return and just randomly be amazing. They never really kayfabe explained where he was, did they? They could have just implied he went to get secret training and has come back the same goofball, but with unlimited skill.

[whiteyford]

He was at the Cobra Kai dojo.

[dronepool]

Santino vs Cesaro vs Goldust in a 3-way dance for the IC belt...book it.

[Kane Knight]

<iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/wOy6b6X9lws" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

Listen to that crowd wanting nothing to do with Ryback.

<iframe src="//www.youtube.com/embed/32TSoJrBIjI" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

Listen to those two crowds wanting nothing to do with Ryback.

What? There's nobody cheering Ryback and even if there is it just totally proves how much of a heel Punk is.

[#1-norm-fan]

He has muscles and was never in ROH. He couldn't have possibly been over even if he was over.

[#1-norm-fan]

I like this, but I was thinking on RAW that it would have been quite funny to have Marella return and just randomly be amazing. They never really kayfabe explained where he was, did they? They could have just implied he went to get secret training and has come back the same goofball, but with unlimited skill.

Seriously. I feel like there's always been this stigma for "goofy" wrestlers that they can't actually get the job done in the ring. I don't think it would be that unrealistic for a guy to be able to kick ass while not having a serious bone in his body outside the ring. It's kind of an untapped character.

[whiteyford]

Think there's a couple of guys on NXT doing something similar, goofy as fuck but can go.

[Vastardikai]

Seriously. I feel like there's always been this stigma for "goofy" wrestlers that they can't actually get the job done in the ring. I don't think it would be that unrealistic for a guy to be able to kick ass while not having a serious bone in his body outside the ring. It's kind of an untapped character.

I'd say some of Minoru Suzuki's work in Japan kind of proves it.

[dronepool]

Nope.

[Tazz Dan]

Daniel Bryan is obviously in the doghouse

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Ryback has his only chance to ever get over now as a Paul Heyman guy. He still sucks though. He'll still get Goldberg chants. A Goldberg chant means you aren't over and nobody cares about you and think you're nothing but a ripoff.

The Usso's actually get chants that they intend to get.

The only chant worse than "Goldberg" is the generic "you suck" shitty heels get.

[Savio]

"Boring" is the worst chant but I don't know what that has to do with DB.

[Tom Guycott]

Nope.

Not enough Dean Ambrose there, DP.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

"Boring" is the worst chant but I don't know what that has to do with DB.

Boring is never directed at just one person though. It's not a personal chant it's a "you both suck"-type chant.

[#1-norm-fan]

Ryback has his only chance to ever get over now as a Paul Heyman guy. He still sucks though. He'll still get Goldberg chants. A Goldberg chant means you aren't over and nobody cares about you and think you're nothing but a ripoff.

The Usso's actually get chants that they intend to get.

The only chant worse than "Goldberg" is the generic "you suck" shitty heels get.

It's insane that you're still trying with this after what happened on the last page.

[#1-norm-fan]

Usos. lol

[Lock Jaw]

NOC Spoiler

Are they starting to bury Randy Orton?!

[Bad News Gertner]

Buried

[snakeboss]

I'm glad my favourite wrestler is now WWE Champion! I was clearly wrong and lacked faith in WWE's booking, but quite frankly, I couldn't give two shits because D-Bryan is champion!!

[ChrisHarvard01]

Ryback has his only chance to ever get over now as a Paul Heyman guy. He still sucks though. He'll still get Goldberg chants. A Goldberg chant means you aren't over and nobody cares about you and think you're nothing but a ripoff.

The Usso's actually get chants that they intend to get.

The only chant worse than "Goldberg" is the generic "you suck" shitty heels get.



It's insane that you're still trying with this after what happened on the last page.



SlickyTrickyDamon is getting buried.


It's appropriate.

[Bad News Gertner]

Ryback has his only chance to ever get over now as a Paul Heyman guy. He still sucks though. He'll still get Goldberg chants. A Goldberg chant means you aren't over and nobody cares about you and think you're nothing but a ripoff.

The Usso's actually get chants that they intend to get.

The only chant worse than "Goldberg" is the generic "you suck" shitty heels get.

So does that what "Husky Harris" chants mean? Or is it smark-led trying to sound cute, and people joining in because who doesn't like a good chant?

[Savio]

"Boring" is the worst chant but I don't know what that has to do with DB.

Boring is never directed at just one person though. It's not a personal chant it's a "you both suck"-type chant.
Cena got boring chants when just he was in the ring cutting a promo recently

[Wehttam]

I'm glad my favourite wrestler is now WWE Champion! I was clearly wrong and lacked faith in WWE's booking, but quite frankly, I couldn't give two shits because D-Bryan is champion!!and just like that, you prove that this storyline made you into a mark. dimwitted mark.

[snakeboss]

Could give two shits what you think? Mark, Smark, unlike you, I'm not really bothered if I'm considered an "intelligent" wrestling fan by an Internet wrestling board. I like what I like, and I dislike what I dislike, if that offends you, please type up a witty sarcastic response, it will truly hurt me I promise you.

[#BROKEN Hasney]

please type up a witty sarcastic response


Will do my man, let me get back to you.

[Wehttam]

Could give two shits what you think? Mark, Smark, unlike you, I'm not really bothered if I'm considered an "intelligent" wrestling fan by an Internet wrestling board. I like what I like, and I dislike what I dislike, if that offends you, please type up a witty sarcastic response, it will truly hurt me I promise you.
okay so you are down with looking dimwtitted. proud of you.

[Kane Knight]

It's insane that you're still trying with this after what happened on the last page.

Reality is flexible in wrestling. STD has been raised to ignore people surviving cars dropped from great distances and explosions, or guys seeing dead people.

Maybe he's just started ignoring the inconvenient responses, too.

[Kane Knight]

okay so you are down with looking dimwtitted. proud of you.

Looking?

[snakeboss]

okay so you are down with looking dimwtitted. proud of you.

Aw do I look dimwitted to you? That's embarrassing. Please accept my apology...

P.S. how does one "look" dimwitted on an Internet message board. That comment just makes you dimwitted. But fear not, proudda you too ;)

[Wehttam]

how does one "look" dimwitted on an Internet message board. That comment just makes you dimwitted.

:|

[Ruien]

Just ignore Wehttem. Dude has some serious social issues.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Three-time World Champion burial.

[screech]

Just ignore Wehttem. Dude has some serious social issues.

Hey hey hey, I like wet ham

Three-time World Champion burial.

Lol exactly. He's also been in the main segments of the main TV show. BURIED

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

So does that what "Husky Harris" chants mean? Or is it smark-led trying to sound cute, and people joining in because who doesn't like a good chant?

That was one crowd. They obviously weren't going to rasslin'.

[Bad News Gertner]

If this were rasslin and not wrestling it'd be treated with more of a serious business nature.

[snakeboss]

I must remind you that the name of this thread is "are they burying daniel bryan" ...not "they are burying daniel bryan". It was open to debate where the booking would go when this thread started and I'm pleased its turned out quite well now.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It was still a silly question to ask. Congrats on the length of the thread though.

[Kane Knight]

I must remind you that the name of this thread is "are they burying daniel bryan" ...not "they are burying daniel bryan". It was open to debate where the booking would go when this thread started and I'm pleased its turned out quite well now.

I await further entries in this same line of questioning, like "is it okay to have sex with children?"

I mean, you're not saying it is okay to fiddle kids, you're just opening the debate.

[Kane Knight]

"Is it okay to own black people?"

Wait, that one might bet a split reaction on here.

Then again, we've got a couple people who support the prior question, so maybe it's a wash.

[snakeboss]

Haha people take this shit so seriously. I'm out of here, it was funny at first, but it's just getting tiresome arguing with people over me asking if Bryan is being booked badly. I mean, stop crying, I said something that upset you, but trust me, you'll get over it (I hope). It's been 8 years since I left this board and now I remember why I left it in the first place. This is my last post on here. Laters.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

nobody was upset, we just thought what you said was stupid. We're entitled to that opinion.

[Tazz Dan]

Can someone make a thread on what questions are stupid to ask, and I'll sticky it? Everyone can contribute then, so we don't have n00bs and posters with only a handful of posts making dicks of themselves to people like STD, who never makes stupid comments on here.

K thanks.

[Fignuts]

Subtle.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Look he's totally free to make the argument, no body's saying he can't, but I should feel equally as free to say "look bro that is a ridiculous statement this angle has just started, calm down", I'm not going to candy coat my opinion if I think something is just plain silly.

[Tazz Dan]

I totally agree with that, but if somebody gets tarnished with being a 'shit poster' on here, interpretation of what they're saying can often get thrown to the side, it's always been the same. The argument you made also works both way, if he doesn't believe it's a ridiculous statement why should he sugar-coat anything?

To be fair, I haven't read the majority of this thread, or his posts really. But like he said, he asked "are they starting to" based on the actions at Raw, he didn't say "they are starting to". Fair question to ask in my opinion for somebody who obviously hasn't spent a lot of time here.

Anyway, stop taking my posts so seriously. I was just having fun with STD.

[Tazz Dan]

Because he's a horrible poster. Horrible, horrible poster.

[Tazz Dan]

;)

[Shadrick]

tazz. i knew you were trouble when you walked iiiiiiin.

[Tazz Dan]

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6112/6869984818_fd20defae0_z.jpg

[Tazz Dan]

trouble, trouble

[Kane Knight]

Haha people take this shit so seriously. I'm out of here, it was funny at first, but it's just getting tiresome arguing with people over me asking if Bryan is being booked badly. I mean, stop crying, I said something that upset you, but trust me, you'll get over it (I hope). It's been 8 years since I left this board and now I remember why I left it in the first place. This is my last post on here. Laters.

So you're not going to continue to ask inane questions that are pretty much just flamebait?

Awww.

[Ruien]

Sigh.... Another new, active, legit, poster scared away because it is mandatory to flame the new people. How awesome.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

I personally did not "flame" him, I just thought his point was completely ridiculous.

[Wehttam]

Haha people take this shit so seriously. I'm out of here, it was funny at first, but it's just getting tiresome arguing with people over me asking if Bryan is being booked badly. I mean, stop crying, I said something that upset you, but trust me, you'll get over it (I hope). It's been 8 years since I left this board and now I remember why I left it in the first place. This is my last post on here. Laters.
this is funny.

[Kane Knight]

Sigh.... Another new, active, legit, poster scared away because it is mandatory to flame the new people. How awesome.
:lol:

[CharismaInjection]

I don't know about anyone else, but I come here to discuss wrestling, not act like a dick to people because I disagree with their point. If the guy was a troll, then fair point, I'd be first to rip him a new asshole, but this guy seemed to be a legit guy starting a discussion. I best think twice before I next start a thread...

[Bad News Gertner]

You thought right son.

[JimmyMess]

it seems like a lot of new posters would end up looking like those chronological mugshots of people on meth....

[Kane Knight]

I don't know about anyone else, but I come here to discuss wrestling, not act like a dick to people because I disagree with their point. If the guy was a troll, then fair point, I'd be first to rip him a new asshole, but this guy seemed to be a legit guy starting a discussion. I best think twice before I next start a thread...

I think that would be best.

[CharismaInjection]

Hey! My thread history is alright ;)

[Savio]

I find it funny that DB has held the title 2 times but for a less amount of time then Kane.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That seems to be the thing they're going for. He proves time and time that he can win the title, but he always gets screwed by the machine. They're putting a new twist on the old formula.

[scatterbrain28]

okay so you are down with looking dimwtitted. proud of you.

Whettam, do the world a favor


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/l3o_EDYl7a4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

you really showed him

[Wehttam]

how shall i ever recover

[#1-norm-fan]

Damn, silent Jericho was a shitty, pointless storyline. Thanks for reminding of that, scatterbrain.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Jericho should have won the Royal Rumble that year. Nothing against Sheamus, but his win seemed really random and forced to me. They could have done Bryan vs. Sheamus another way if they really wanted to. But the RR should have gone to Jericho, so that the battle to decide the Best in the World wasn't being contested by a runner-up.

[snakeboss]

I just wanted to say I'm sorry guys. I was clearly wrong about this, Daniel Bryan defeated Randy Orton and the authority and is now WWE champion.

Oh wait...

Goodbye again.

[Savio]

Now they are starting to bury daniel bryan

[#1-norm-fan]

I don't think not winning the title or being the focus of the show = being buried.

[Shadrick]

yeah? well your breath smells like shit

[#1-norm-fan]

Who, me or snakeboss? Either way, you could be correct.

[whiteyford]

Snakeboss, you really need to learn the meaning of 'buried'.