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Old 08-28-2013, 03:25 AM   #1
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Are they starting to bury Daniel Bryan? *SPOILERS*
Looking at the latest results for Smackdown, I'm getting a little concerned about the booking of Daniel Bryan these last two weeks. I understand it's early days and the idea is to get heat on Triple H and Randy Orton, and for the crowd to root even harder for Bryan to win. But he has spent every show since Summerslam getting beaten down, isn't this going to ruin how over he is as eventually the fans will tire of him not getting any ofdensive on Orton and HHH. I may be on my own here but is anyone a little concerned with how theyre booking Bryan, unless he wins at NOC, he hasnt come out of this looking strong at all. I worry his pop will eventually start to die down.



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Old 08-28-2013, 03:43 AM   #2
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If they wanted to bury Daniel Bryan he wouldn't be on TV or at least he'd be having matches on Superstars or NXT.
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Old 08-28-2013, 03:46 AM   #3
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It really is no wonder that WWE tries to cram entire storylines into one month when this is the reaction they get after only 2 weeks.
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:55 AM   #4
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:56 AM   #5
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This thread is classic "doesn't know how wrestling works" material
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:13 AM   #6
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Like I said in the spoilers, I'm a little worried that what they're doing with big show takes a little too much focus off Bryan, but we'll see.

Otherwise no, he's not being buried, calm down.
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Old 08-28-2013, 05:34 AM   #7
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Daniel Bryan is in the introduction of Raw, the focal point of the show, is booked in three matches and the entire roster stands at the top of the ramp to watch his matches. I can't even remember his name.
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:38 AM   #8
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:21 AM   #9
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I get how wrestling works, I just don't think it's the strongest booking you could give him. He's the corner stone of the show no doubt, but if he keeps getting beaten down all the time without actually finishing a show on top, eventually people will lose faith in him.
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:33 AM   #10
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Cena overcomes the odds every night and people bitch.

Daniel Bryan doesn't overcome the odds when it's not reasonable and people complain.


Bryan is the underdog. People are behind him, and more people are getting behind him. People want to see him take down Orton, he's basically where he needs to be.
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:27 AM   #11
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Apparently you have never heard of rickie Morton if you think you can't become a top face by getting beat down.
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:31 AM   #12
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If Ryback pinned him I would have agreed but Ryback lost because of DQ.

Bryan is NOT getting the Rey Mysterio treatment
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:28 AM   #13
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If Bryan was beating down four very strongly booked guys at once every week would that be better?
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:30 AM   #14
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It really is no wonder that WWE tries to cram entire storylines into one month when this is the reaction they get after only 2 weeks.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:03 AM   #15
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I kind of miss the old late 90s "Autin/Kane/Taker/Rock/Sting" shows up and clears t he whole ring segements.

Like Austin comes out and throws down 15-20 Stunners in about 2 minutes while guys wait their spot in line to eat one.

But that would be pure stupid right now.
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Old 08-28-2013, 10:04 AM   #16
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Faces have to beat everyone every time, and Heels can never win they can only get beat up and be chickenshit heels.

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Old 08-28-2013, 11:43 AM   #20
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I get how wrestling works, I just don't think it's the strongest booking you could give him. He's the corner stone of the show no doubt, but if he keeps getting beaten down all the time without actually finishing a show on top, eventually people will lose faith in him.
There's a difference between Daniel Bryan catching beatdowns when the odds are overwhelmingly against him and "being booked weak".

Examples of weak booking are when Punk was champion, but REPEATEDLY LOSING CLEAN nearly every week in non-title main events. Takes bite out of claiming to be the "best in the world" when he was repeatedly counting lights. When Christian started that "one more match" thing (bearng in mind he was a heel... that already didn't help), it made him look weak because the kept blowing his chances and loopholing his way into another title match only to lose again and again. If he were champion and retaining by shady circumstance, it would have gotten te heat they were looking for. Instead, it made him look like a whiny pussy who didn't deserve a chance in spite of winning the damned thing twice.

Bryan fearlessly putting up a good fight in the face of an impending quadruple team butt whipping with nobody able to help because of HHH's threats just makes Bryan look like the most baddest of asses. He's not flat-out jobbing to people way down the card, either. The Shield has been booked to be a force to be reconed with since day one. All 4 men kicking Bryan's ass are currently holding gold. Individually againstthem, he's holding his own and against The Shield, he has defended himself ALONE in a stronger showing than Mark Henry or even The Undertaker have in the same sitch.

Daniel Bryan will outpop DX eight times over when he finally wins, as it'll be a big screw you to not just Orton, but the entire system in place to keep him down. He'll be fine.
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Lol @ everybody being a dick to the new guy for just starting a decently intelligent thread...
Thanks, I appreciate that, I've actually been a member here since 2004 though. Though I rarely post. People get too offended and try too hard to be intelligent and all knowing. In the end guys, we're a bunch of people posting on a wrestling forum, just saying. Who are you impressing?

But yeah, mainly I feel WWE is booking Bryan badly because I feel he needs to get back at the corporation. Perhaps that will come in time, but at the moment it's frustrating seeing him get beat down every raw/Smackdown. If he wins at NOC, fair play. If he doesn't...not a good month for him.

I apologise again for expressing my opinion. Continue to cry.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:11 PM   #22
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Bare in mind, some TPWW posters are actually here to discuss wrestling and I respect that, the ones who get upset and feel the need to be superior...go ahead...
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I feel WWE is booking Bryan badly because I feel he needs to get back at the corporation.
The thing is, the angle is 3 WEEKS OLD. How long did Vince McMahon fuck with Steve Austin before Austin finally gave him that first Stunner?
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the angle has JUST started.
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I don't nec think that they're gonna follow through with a great angle, they tend to lose focus. But if you have him get beat down for a while, while continuously being a thorn in "the corporation's" side, the fans will be frothing at the mouth for him to elbow and knee motherfuckers in the mouth, and if they do things right and he delivers that first devestating beat down, or wins the championship, then it'll be worth it.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:38 PM   #28
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WWE angles always seem to lose focus.
Which I said. But that doesn't mean hotshotting the angle will make it any better.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:41 PM   #30
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So, at the risk of my comment being labeled a "joke," is Bryan being "buried" in the same way CM Punk was in the "doghouse?" This is what I infer from the comments, that he lost once and people are suddenly freaking out because of it.

Which is pretty much both the origin of CM Punk being "in the doghouse" and all the "doghouse" jokes.

I feel I used too many quotes. Maybe I'm turning into Triple A.
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The thing is, the angle is 3 WEEKS OLD. How long did Vince McMahon fuck with Steve Austin before Austin finally gave him that first Stunner?
Vince didn't really have Austin beat down in the beginning of their angle, its quite different. In fact I think Austin attacked him first.
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Vince didn't really have Austin beat down in the beginning of their angle, its quite different. In fact I think Austin attacked him first.
My point is that they didn't hotshot the angle, not who attacked who first.
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I don't think they should either, and I don't think he is getting buried aswell, I do understand peoples concerns however.
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I heard a rumor that Daniel Bryan is in the doghouse.
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No since the storyline only recently started and right now is focused on getting the crowd to really hate Orton and Triple H. The crowd still pops for both Orton and Triple H which is what the WWE doesn't want right now.

Bryan's payback is going to occur a lot slower than Cena who sort of ruined the "overcoming the odds" thing by doing it soo much and very quickly into feuds.
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The whole Austin thing only had Raw to work with. I am fine with Smackdown not progressing the storyline, in a significant manner. The whole storyline could be left off Smackdown and I would be fine with it.

There should be the main Raw and Smackdown storyline. You know, the whole two separate belt thing.
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It's been 2 weeks, way too early to make any judgement. I understand the concern. We all know that the nWo got boring after beating down people at the end of every show for over a year, but again, it's only been 2 weeks. If they keep doing this 2 months down the line, then we may have a problem.
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I've mentioned this on the podcast before, but in the long-term, this feud is absolute gold (if they don't screw it up and job Bryan out at the last second to make way for Cena once he's healthy again). Pairing Orton with a corporate heel Triple H (and not a cheer-for-him-anyway "cool heel" Trips, but a full-on power-abusing asshole Trips) and having him steal the title away from Bryan makes for a perfect heel for both the smark and mark crowds: the marks hate him because he's a bad guy who stole the title, the smarks hate him because collectively with the McMahon clan, they represent everything wrong with the business. And Bryan is the perfect counter to that-- the "YES!" stuff and his tag team run with Kane got him over with the marks, and he's already been over with the smarks thanks to years of classic matches both in WWE and in the indies. So you've got a feud that just about everyone can get behind.

And a big part of that is that early on, Bryan has to get denied. He has to face long odds and get visibly put down by the McMahon Dynasty, so that when he does finally work his way back to Orton and make him tap out, it will be that much sweeter (again, assuming they don't just go "Oh look, Cena's back, time for another Cena/Orton feud!") because right now we're basically seeing played out on screen something that we all kind of assume happens backstage anyway--a crony of Trips or Vince getting a push he doesn't deserve and more talented wrestlers getting buried to make him look good-- and then Bryan ultimately winning will be a cathartic "breaking the cycle" moment.

That said......my absolute favorite wrestler in the world has ended the show getting KO'ed by my absolute least favorite wrestler in the world for four shows straight, so......yeah, it's kind of a bitter pill to swallow at the moment.
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Remember when Punk's first loss in the WWE went to Hardcore Holly, and people thought that was it for him.
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