Arrow on CW

[McLegend]

I saw that, and I don't understand the Caity Lotz involvement yet.

I like it. They should do a Justice League TV movie soon.

[Lock Jaw]

The article says she may not be playing the same character... which would be hard to do unless she would be wearing extensive makeup all the time or something.

[McLegend]

The article says she may not be playing the same character... which would be hard to do unless she would be wearing extensive makeup all the time or something.

Yep that's why I'm unsure. I'm all for her being on TV however.

[Lock Jaw]

Maybe Sara saved a Martian one day.... and now that Martian uses her identity.... when she isn't out fighting crime as Miss Martian.

[McLegend]

Hmm maybe. Or maybe they give her a suit that beings her back to life, but she is only alive when she is wearing the suit. So basically she dies like 3 times every episode, when she takes the suit off.


Also what was up with Ray Palmer's eyes right before he put on the suit. It almost looked like he was under some sort of mind control. Am I reading to into that?

[Lock Jaw]

You mean when he woke up in bed? Just seemed to me like he had that "eureka" moment... in more ways than one....

[McLegend]

I am referring to that.

I thought so, but it was weird since his eyes were all blood shot.

[Jura]

He just got done banging Ms Smoak's brains out.

[Lock Jaw]

Casting descriptions for the new spinoff:

“THE TRAVELER” | Described as a “Han Solo-esque rogue who gets by with his charm, this hero hails from the future, and has journeyed back in time on a secret mission. His razor-sharp wit hides the pain of a man who has lived through serious conflict. He also harbors many secrets, always leaving both his teammates and the audience unsure of his true allegiances.

“FEMALE WARRIOR” | This twentysomething Latina is pretty but unassuming, book smart and socially awkward by day. But by night, when she hears the cry of battle, her fury is ignited and she becomes a fierce warrior — so much so, that sometimes she can become a threat to others.

“MYSTERY HERO” | An African-American male in his twenties will fill the role of a regular, street smart guy who unexpectedly gains powers, and then, as part of the team, regularly quips about the insanity of the situations.

[McLegend]

That is interesting.

[Lock Jaw]

My guesses are Booster Gold, Fury, and I would say Static but I'm not sure if DC still has the rights to him or not. Read something about Milestone becoming its own company again... If they don't have Static anymore than maybe they just use BLACK Lightning.

[McLegend]

Caity Lotz isn't Latina last time I check. Which makes the Caity Lotz rumors all the more weird.

[McLegend]

Or was she rumored for another show?

[Lock Jaw]

I think this casting description is for additional cast members. Not Caity Lotz.

[McLegend]

I would imagine she would be the mean main character.

Now Is that the same show that could possibly involve Atom? Or is this a completely other show? Cause the rumor with her involved Atom.

[Lock Jaw]

This is the same show. In addition to the announced cast (Atom/Dr. Stein/Captain Cold/Caity Lotz) it was stated that it would also star three more characters that have never appeared on live action TV before.

Which actually disqualifies Booster Gold.... so maybe Rip Hunter.

[McLegend]

I got you. I just read more about it. I thought they were main characters of their own show, and I can't even keep tracki of these things anymore.

[Lock Jaw]

Good episode but I still greatly dislike the shoehorning of Malcolm Merlyn into the main cast....

"I didn't have anywhere else to take him".....

PUT HIM IN F'N JAIL ALREADY.

I don't care how much of a good fighter he is, he is still just human... you put him in a cage (much like how they had Nyssa held in a cage) and he can't break through solid metal bars.

Worried that he will still somehow escape? Hand him over to ARGUS for them to keep him perpetually drugged or something.

Even if he does escape, at least you TRIED to bring him to some kind of justice for all his crimes rather than letting him stay on your sister's couch.

[ClockShot]

Is Nanda Parbat the next town over from Starling City? I found it hard to believe that Nyssa went from Starling to Nanda Parbat and back to Starling all in a 10 minute time frame.

I know TV magic and all is in play, but I had to roll my eyes at the end.

[Simple Fan]

My guesses are Booster Gold, Fury, and I would say Static but I'm not sure if DC still has the rights to him or not. Read something about Milestone becoming its own company again... If they don't have Static anymore than maybe they just use BLACK Lightning.

Wasn't Booster Gold rumored to have his own show on syfy. They may have dropped the idea but a Booster Gold show on CW might be good.

[McLegend]

Good episode but I still greatly dislike the shoehorning of Malcolm Merlyn into the main cast....

"I didn't have anywhere else to take him".....

PUT HIM IN F'N JAIL ALREADY.

I don't care how much of a good fighter he is, he is still just human... you put him in a cage (much like how they had Nyssa held in a cage) and he can't break through solid metal bars.

Worried that he will still somehow escape? Hand him over to ARGUS for them to keep him perpetually drugged or something.

Even if he does escape, at least you TRIED to bring him to some kind of justice for all his crimes rather than letting him stay on your sister's couch.

Lol totally agree. At first I thought it was a good storyline in the fact that Oliver made a dumb decision like he does often. However it's getting ridiculous. Also Merlyn is better when he is a straight heel. None of this tweener stuff.

Good stuff though. Matt Nable was an excellent choice for Ra's btw. I like this take on him. What was up with Shado. Twin sister? Cousin?

[McLegend]

Anyone else find it funny after the Arrow/Atom fight that Oliver left behind an unconscience Roy Harper?

[McLegend]

Also I kind of loved this episode tonight.

It was good stuff.

[ClockShot]

I don't know about you guys, but either my TV was on the fritz, or Brandon Routh had a bad case of pink eye in the office scene with him and Steve Amell.

[McLegend]

He had it in his last scene with Felecity to.

[Simple Fan]

Missed the show because DirecTV keeps fucking up. Will have to go out to my brithers to watch it.

[Lock Jaw]

Mayor in Star City doesn't have very good job security

[Krimzon7]

What's up guys. It's been months or even a year since i said something here. HOpe you've all been well.

This season of Arrow has been amazing. I'm looking forward to Atom being off my show. Let him go to that spinoff with FIRESTORM and Canary.

[Jura]

Anyone else find it funny after the Arrow/Atom fight that Oliver left behind an unconscience Roy Harper?
Yeah, I was hoping after Misao was pointing an arrow at Felicity that they would cut to Roy waking up all groggy where Oliver left him.

[Destor]

The atoms cg budget was hilariously bad

[McLegend]

I thought it was good for CW special effects. I always think the Island CGI is horrible however.

[Lock Jaw]

Hawkgirl cast for the Arrow/Flash spinoff. Some braud I've never heard of. Already closed the tab, can't be bothered to find the name.

[McLegend]

Ciara Renee is her name.

I'm intrigued by this spinoff to say the least.

[Lock Jaw]

Arthur Darvill cast as Rip Hunter for the spin-off

[McLegend]

All the scenes between Oliver and Lance were really good.

Strong episode

[Lock Jaw]

Yup.... game changing episode. Arrow seems to have a lot of them.

[McLegend]

That it does.

Oliver takes a beating from people. I'm not even talking about a psyical beating, but he lets people say whatever they want to him, and he very rarely responds to it. I think that has change a little in upcoming episodes.

[Lock Jaw]

I thought I saw somewhere that Ray Palmer and Felicity were gonna be in next week's Flash episode.... wonder how that will work....

[Lock Jaw]

Oh, ok, never mind. There is no Flash episode next week.

[Lock Jaw]

Oh, ok, never mind. There is no Arrow episode next week either.

[Lock Jaw]

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[ClockShot]

Post NYPD Blue years has not been kind to Charlotte Ross. Looks like she put on 20 years after that show ended.

[McLegend]

I don't know how they are going to spin in with Roy being the Arrow.

Just for one won't people notice gigantic height difference between Oliver and Roy? Obviously Lance knows The Arrow is really Oliver so I'm not sure how it will play out.

Great stuff last night though regardless.

[Jura]

They must have a tailor to make a suit for Roy on such short notice.

[ClockShot]

Don't know how this is gonna work out since Lance figured out Roy was Arsenal no more than a few episodes ago.

Unless the writers are going the WWE route and want us to pretend that it didn't happen.

Either way, this hasn't been the best season. Flashbacks haven't done nothing, and we're all waiting on pins and needles to find out what happened with Maseo to send him down the path of The League.

[McLegend]

Lance is a real dick.

Good stuff this week. I do believe that Ray Palmer could not handle his own show, and hence why he needs 6 or whatever other Super heroes along side him.

Is it going to be a really long time until we see the green hood again? I'm kind of saddened by that.

[McLegend]

I really liked this one tonight. Big fan of the Olicicty moments there. Finally got to see Malcolm Merlyn kick ass, and I'm all for Darth Arrow next week.

Now sending Oliver back to Starling City so soon will probably end up being a bad move for Ra's, but whatever.

[McLegend]

We are getting somewhere with Hong Kong now.

[Lock Jaw]

Good ep. Felt like a season finale.

[Simple Fan]

Great episode, I really dig Oliver embracing Ra's . Next week should be good.

[Lock Jaw]

Can't believe there are still three episodes left in the season. Have no idea where it is going to go in these last episodes. Like I said, tonight felt like a "season finale" already...

[McLegend]

Now Hong Kong is starting to tie together.

Arrow is on a roll right now.

[ClockShot]

Great, another wedding!

Who's gonna step in when they get to "speak now or forever hold your peace."?

[loopydate]

Sara.

Yeah, she's dead, but it would make about as much sense as a lot of the things happening over the last couple weeks.

[McLegend]

It could still be Oliver.

I'm still unsure if he's 100% behind Ra's.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Season 3 has been so bad.

[Miotch]

Season 3 has been so bad.
This.

I also have grown to despise all the forced cross overs between Arrow and Flash.

[The Destroyer]

I dunno, I've quite liked Season 3. It definitely could have been better, but I'm not hating it.

Don't hate the crossovers much either since I'm really liking The Flash.

[Lock Jaw]

Season 3 has had some really good moments. It has also had some really ridiculous moments.

Probably the top being Oliver getting stabbed in the chest and tossed off a mountain and somehow surviving and just having a bandaged abdomen. Really should have used the lazarus waters to bring him back...

[McLegend]

I don't mind that. I still feel like Oliver has some sort of "super power" that we aren't aware of yet that helped him through that.

Season 3 is still good. It's clearly not as good as Season 2 or even the 2nd half of season 1. I blame it purely on the The Flash diverting attention of writers and creators away from Arrow.

With that said Laurel is terrible though, and it's a huge mistake to make her Black Canary. I don't care about the comics... It hasn't worked so far. Just have be a lawyer who is dresses is bright clothes like how she was at Diggle's wedding. She looked great. Also most Thea subplots have missed the mark.

[Heisenberg]

I don't mind that. I still feel like Oliver has some sort of "super power" that we aren't aware of yet that helped him through that.

Season 3 is still good. It's clearly not as good as Season 2 or even the 2nd half of season 1. I blame it purely on the The Flash diverting attention of writers and creators away from Arrow.

With that said Laurel is terrible though, and it's a huge mistake to make her Black Canary. I don't care about the comics... It hasn't worked so far. Just have be a lawyer who is dresses is bright clothes like how she was at Diggle's wedding. She looked great. Also most Thea subplots have missed the mark.

I'm about to start season 3, just breezed through 1&2. Very sad to hear that Laurel still sucks.

[Destor]

Diggle either needs a costume or they need to write him off. I dont care which

[McLegend]

I really hate previews for next week shows. First the Flash spoiled Arrow, and now Arrow spoils Arrow.

I knew they weren't going to die tonight, but at the same time I didn't need to see them all alive in the previews for next week.

Either way very enjoyable tonight.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, it is "good"..... but this time last year was "amazing".

[Black Widow]

Oliver is making the LOA look worse than the Putty Patrol in MMPR.

[Lock Jaw]

Pretty weird how Laurel's training was so good that she has no problem taking on League members...

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Well she did attend 3 whole boxing classes.

[McLegend]

I really liked it, and I don't know where they are going with season 4.

I thought Oliver got his hand cut off on the bridge.

[McLegend]

Season 3 not as good as Season 2, but it's still good. Fight with Ra's wasn't nearly as good as the fight with Slade from last year. Or even the fight with Merlyn from season 1... Still the fight was good. However after the fight with Ra's on the mountain most of the fights in 2nd half of the season weren't up to par with with previous seasons. That has to get fixed.

I'm glad that Malcolm Merlyn is a full heel again. Oliver's reasoning for keeping Merlyn around makes some sense I guess, but it leads to heel Merlyn. I don't understand how Oliver doesn't say anything about him killing his own son along with 500 other people, but again it leads to heel Merlyn... So whatever

Another criticism... Oliver suddenly kills too easily now. That's wasn't made a big enough

Stephen Amell was really good this season. I knew he was going to have a career after Arrow ends, and he reconfirmed this season. He's going to be around for a while.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, nowhere near the level of season 2, but still generally ok.

I am making a bold prediction and saying that HAL JORDAN and Green Lantern will be in season 4. The boat Oliver looked towards at the end of the Flashback storyline had Coast City on it, well known home of Hal Jordan. Last episode they introduced Ferris Air and said it was shut down when one of their test pilots disappeared.

Therefore: I think that in Season 4 we will see Flashbacks with Oliver in Coast City, meeting Hal Jordan, possibly going on a Road Trip. Present day storyline could have him reappearing as the Green Lantern.

[ClockShot]

Agree with the vibe that this season was not the best. Felt as though the finale should have been more.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that eventually the show's name will change to Green Arrow in some way or form. With "The Arrow" now gone, what will Oliver Queen do?

The crossovers..........that's gotta stop. It was great when the show stood on it's own. I know CW is going for the monopoly for being the superhero network, but I don't wanna start watching other shows in order to be up to speed on my favorite show.

[Lock Jaw]

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Gandalf the White Canary

[VSG]

lol

Also yeah I can't get over how Oliver supposedly got his hand chopped and then got shot at, but was absolutely fine a day later. The guy IS the Lazarus pit.

[McLegend]

It was his sword that got chopped, but it really looked like his hand at first.

Or at least to me it did.

[Lock Jaw]

Just looked like his sword to me.

[McLegend]

Yeah I think I'm one of the few that thought that.

So Sara Lance is coming back, and I don't think that's a spoiler now.

So will Sara Lance go after Thea? I think she has to. In fact maybe she comes back and is going after Thea, and that brings Oliver out of retirement.

I think the flashback's next year goes back the island pretty early. However befor that he might end up in Russia.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Honestly, I think the main reason the show has gone massively downhill has been since he left the island. There was a large appeal to how he evolved from a massive faggot to a warrior on a secluded island, just mostly from trying to survive. Going to Japan, and especially back to Starling City to go to a party has been extremely boring/ridiculous, and the flashbacks make up like 25-30% of the episodes.

And I know it's a CW show and all but the driving off into the sunset in a sports car ending was embarrassing to watch in 2015.

[Lock Jaw]

Need Slade Wilson back. If any villain were to get awkwardly shoehorned into the main cast, would rather have had Slade Wilson over Merlyn.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Slade was a better villain but every tv show needs more John Barrowman

[McLegend]

They never should have taken the mirakuru away from Slade Wilson. Without mirakuru he's not that big of a threat. He needs to get the mirakuru back, and then they can work him in.

Also why didn't Raz Ah Ghul and the League of Assassin's work out that well? I really liked how Raz was portrayed, but still there was something missing with him. Makes me think making him and the league of assassin's more comic booky might not work in live action... Batman Begins might have had that right. Also I never liked the name League of Assassin's. League of Shadows is much better.

[ClockShot]

Neal McDonough has been cast as Damien Darhk.

Star power like that, $5 will get you $10 he's probably the villain for season 4.

Not a bad pick up. Loved him during his run on Justified.

[Lock Jaw]

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[Black Widow]

Loving the new Arrow costume...

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[Lock Jaw]

John Constantine, as played by Matt Ryan, confirmed to be appearing on Arrow this upcoming season.

Pretty sweet.... I didn't care for the Constantine TV show, but thought that Matt Ryan did good job in the part.

I think I've said it before too, that I think the character of Constantine itself is better as a supporting/guest character instead of the main guy. I know he did have a 300 issue comic book series where he was the main guy, so I am probably wrong. Dunno. Haven't read most of it. And of what I have read, I have liked his supporting/guest spots in other comics better.

[McLegend]

I didn't watch any of Constantine so I can't say anything good or bad about it. However that's cool that's he's going to be on Arrow. I'm all for it.

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[Jura]

John Constantine, as played by Matt Ryan, confirmed to be appearing on Arrow this upcoming season.

Pretty sweet.... I didn't care for the Constantine TV show, but thought that Matt Ryan did good job in the part.

I think I've said it before too, that I think the character of Constantine itself is better as a supporting/guest character instead of the main guy. I know he did have a 300 issue comic book series where he was the main guy, so I am probably wrong. Dunno. Haven't read most of it. And of what I have read, I have liked his supporting/guest spots in other comics better.
I liked the show or at least the idea of it actually being a thing and was actually more critical of Matt Ryan as Constantine.

[mitchables]

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lol @ digglenaut

[Lock Jaw]

Diggle is now Magneto, cool.

[mitchables]

they're definitely casting/they definitely have casted someone else as mr terrific right? coz i'm kind of getting an 'inverse' vibe of the mr terrific face with the "T" shaped opening sort of

but yeah the magneto and juggernaut comparisons are right there for the taking

[Lock Jaw]

They cast Mr. Terrific, yeah..... Forget who... some guy I never heard of...

I don't think my theory last year of Hal Jordan/Green Lantern being in this season is going to turn out right.... probably would have heard some casting/rumours by now....

[mitchables]

yeah but they did just re-tease coast city in the promo material for s4 so they're being kind of dicks about it if they're just going to end up not bringing in hal in ~some~ capacity

[McLegend]

Is a heel turn coming for Diggle?

[Lock Jaw]

yeah but they did just re-tease coast city in the promo material for s4 so they're being kind of dicks about it if they're just going to end up not bringing in hal in ~some~ capacity

Yeah... I've also heard the "tagline" for the new season as "Aim Higher"..... Space is higher.....

Team Arrow vs. Starro the Conqueror this season.... make it happen....

[mitchables]

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damn, looks good. can feel the shift in tone even in the trailer. marked out bigtime for constantine's cameo. interesting to note the star city change, as well as the coast city thing - looks like ollie and flick have relocated there at the outset of the season. speedy looks awesome, damian dahrk seems like he could be good, introduction of magic and the supernatural/mysticism to arrow universe opens a lot of doors... dunno, definitely think they needed the 'clean break' to be able to 'begin again' as it were, more in line with what they've established really works in the flash

[Sixx]

What's with his voice at the end?

[mitchables]

the "you're about to find out"?

nothing that he hasn't used when talking to captain lance and everyone else who didn't know his identity over the past three seasons tbh; i had to rewatch the trailer to see what you were talking about because it didn't jump out at me as being out of place the first time, sry

[Tom Guycott]

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lol @ digglenaut

I just *had* to enter this thread. Now I can't stop Dig from continually shouting "Do you know who I aaaaaaam?"

[Sixx]

the "you're about to find out"?

nothing that he hasn't used when talking to captain lance and everyone else who didn't know his identity over the past three seasons tbh; i had to rewatch the trailer to see what you were talking about because it didn't jump out at me as being out of place the first time, sry

Oh, ok. I've only seen 8 episodes of the 1st season, he hasn't used that voice so far.

[McLegend]

Lol Coast City flashbacks

I'm going to miss the old suit.

I know very little about Damien Dark or however you spell his name, but I'm looking forward to Neal McDonough. He's going to work well in the show.

[Dark One]

Kind of torn on the episode.

It just felt very "HERE'S STUFF" and like they skipped a bunch of episodes. I get that they wrote themselves into a corner with the opening and everything, but it feels like the other three seasons have had a gradual buildup to the Big Bad and this season was like "Ten minutes in? FUCK IT. HERE'S THE BIG BAD GUY FOR THE SEASON!" and that was pretty much it.

Strong closing though and the reveal of the name tying back in to the end of last season helped, but it definitely felt way rockier than the other three seasons' starts.

[Lock Jaw]

There still might be a swerve and Damien Dark might not be the big bad.... who knows...

Anyways, so much for Coast City flashbacks.... I liked the Hal Jordan "cameo"..... I knew it wasn't going to happen because he wasn't cast or anything, but I was hoping that this season's flashbacks would be Ollie and Hal on a roadtrip, trying to "find themselves".....

[Lock Jaw]

Also.... damn..... really don't want anybody to die.... especially Felicity....

[mitchables]

dahrk definitely seems like he's in service to a higher power of some sort, esp with the entire new world o' magic at their disposal. also don't forget vandal savage is in the mix; he'll probably need some form of introduction before legends of tomorrow since it's clear both ollie and barry are aware of him by the time that show starts

good ep though, dig's helmet is much better in action

[McLegend]

Also.... damn..... really don't want anybody to die.... especially Felicity....

It seems to be too obvious to be Felicity.

I don't think it's her.

It is also possible that there could be more Coast City. We can't rule it out yet.

[mitchables]

probably captain lance tbh, amazed he's lasted as long as he has. plus ollie was prattling on about the darkness not being his fault but it is his responsibility blah blah blah, echoing lance's earlier call that the arrow wrought darkness upon starling city; my guess is lance fouls dahrk after he has a moral crisis about working with hive, and pays for it with his life. redemption and ollie are involved, tears ensue etc

[mitchables]

JUST A GUESS THOUGH, RLY DON'T WANT IT TO BE DIG OR FLICK

[Sixx]

Can't be Dig, he just got a brand new Magneto helmet.

[McLegend]

Dig was causally shooting people last night. Like just walking and calmly shooting people. I think there is a heel turn coming for him.

[Lock Jaw]

He's been shooting people since season 1....

[McLegend]

I know, but it was different last night.

[McLegend]

WTF happened to the hair and beard?

[Lock Jaw]

Those things can be cut

[McLegend]

Yeah but they have to be super long. They have to grow pretty fast over the next year and a half or so.

Was Oliver Queen mayor in the comics?

[Lock Jaw]

For a bit, yeah

[Sixx]

Which was ridiculous. Him being the only guy in the city with that ridiculous 'stache/beard now a mayor and noone connected the dots. Worse than Superman and his glasses.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah.... I mean, it is his "iconic look", but always found it a bit ridic that no one could put together that the dude with the blonde mustache/beard in a very distinct shape is Green Arrow....

Not that I have been reading it anyways, but that is one change in the New52 that I didn't mind.... that they got rid of the facial hair....

[mitchables]

more i think about my captain lance theory the more i worry it could also be felicity. let's face it - if they're ever gonna hook ollie up with dinah, they're gonna have to off felicity. plus barry came out for the funeral, even if he technically missed it. don't know that he'd do that for lance. could be wrong though i guess

anyway not that they strictly have to put ollie and dinah together but... y'know. i'd be surprised. no way does "olicity" end without tears. not NECESSARILY death but... probably. although the team would be screwed without her. buuut if mr terrific is a tech genius also...

[McLegend]

I don't want Oliver and Laurel.

I'm going with Digg, and Oliver feels responsible because he let Diggle go after H.I.V.E alone.

[McLegend]

Tonight I have decided that I don't like the Laurel character at all. I've given up trying to like her. She's kind of dumb.

However glad Sara Lance is back.

[Lock Jaw]

Like Nyssa more and more, though....

[Simple Fan]

Double Down was pretty cool. Are we going to get the Arrow Cave now?

[mitchables]

Tonight I have decided that I don't like the Laurel character at all. I've given up trying to like her. She's kind of dumb.

However glad Sara Lance is back.

i think they blew it by concocting the sara character in the first place. should've just had laurel be the only daughter of captain lance to heighten his resentment towards ollie when he thought she had died on the ship and had her go through what sara went through with the league and whatever and bam, believable black canary that doesn't need to be replaced a season later

like i know dinah in the comics is technically a "legacy" black canary too but she's held the mantle forever so really tv dinah didn't need to be made to feel a hand-me-down imitation of the "original" :-\

not that i don't LIKE sara. i'm just saying, as far as making dinah work as the black canary and not feel kinda forced, it would have been better.

[McLegend]

I can see that. If I was booking this show I never would have killed Sara Lance off last year. I think she is way too strong of a presence on the show. Laurel, could never be that.

[McLegend]

Look I'm just saying The Green Arrow should be able to take down a meta human by himself... I'm just saying.

[Blonde Moment]

Look I'm just saying The Green Arrow should be able to take down a meta human by himself... I'm just saying.
He can if he prepares but he is only human

[McLegend]

I am excited for next week.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah.... been looking forward to seeing Constantine on Arrow.... Love Constantine (as a supporting/guest character, not a lead)

[McLegend]

It's a cool thing they are doing. It's going to be good.

Are we going to see Oliver's pissed off look at Laurel next week? I hope so.

[Simple Fan]

Great episode, Constantine was good hopefully we'll see him again sometime.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah, good episode. I liked the musical cues to Constantine's tv show. Nice touch.

Constantine so much better as a guest character than a lead.... I think he shows up again.

Also, Flashbacks are already infinitely more interesting than the Hong Kong stuff.... Curious as to Baron Reiter's true intentions.....

[McLegend]

I hope we see more of Constantine.

Laurel, is still terrible. I think she is going to try and put the moves on Oliver sooner rather then later. One positive thing about Laurel is that outside the Black Canary suit she has been looking good. She was kind of smokin in the hospital.

[mitchables]

that was magnificent

loved constantine. hope he comes back for at least one more appearance. matt ryan and the constantine crew got robbed of a decent-length run for how decent it was compared to some shows that have lasted much longer.

am loving curtis/eventual mr terrific also. dude is amazing

also the tease discovery of tiny ray being alive was pretty great

all-round solid episode though, this season continues to be one of its strongest so far

[Lock Jaw]

For the first time in a long time.... I will be watching LIVE

[McLegend]

Damn Felicity is a hardass.

[Lock Jaw]

Looked hot as hell without the glasses there....

[The Destroyer]

I'm sure he gets typecast to shit because of it, but I love Neal McDonough playing villains.

[Lock Jaw]

Why is Thea all "you can live a normal life" when she is dealing with the exact same problem and is only temporarily "calm" due to killing some ninjas.

Sara should still be "feeling the urge" to kill Thea too... getting her soul back doesn't mean that the effects of the pit go away....

[McLegend]

Looked hot as hell without the glasses there....

Looks real young though.

[McLegend]

Why is Thea all "you can live a normal life" when she is dealing with the exact same problem and is only temporarily "calm" due to killing some ninjas.

Sara should still be "feeling the urge" to kill Thea too... getting her soul back doesn't mean that the effects of the pit go away....

Thea is hoping that if Sara can overcome the pit then that means she can to. So she is giving her moral support to help herself as well.

Sara by now knows that Merlyn is the one that killed her, and therefore has forgiven Thea.

[McLegend]

Also what was that shit at the end?

[Lock Jaw]

I already forget.

And Sara would know that Merlyn is "responsible", but doesn't change that Thea did the physical act.... though I dunno how it works....

[McLegend]

I already forget.

And Sara would know that Merlyn is "responsible", but doesn't change that Thea did the physical act.... though I dunno how it works....

Superheroes are usually forgiving with those things though... I guess would be the reasoning behind it???


So is Laurel going to continue to have always bad ideas? Will she ever get smarter?

I didn't really like tonight's episode. I usually like every episode to.

[McLegend]

I really liked this tonight.

Everything might have tied up too nicely at the end, but overall this was really good. I'm glad Oliver started looking like a leader again(Even though his first plan went horribly wrong) instead of just another guy in Team Arrow. That's my least favorite thing about this season so far... Oliver has been depowered big time. He beat Ra's Al Ghul last year he should be really fuckin tough... It annoys me.

[McLegend]

Weakest part of the episode was the flashbacks.

Wasn't really a deep origin story for Hawkgirl and Hawkman.

[Lock Jaw]

Enjoyed the reference to Hath-Set in the flashbacks....

"Weird" that they decided to call Ollie's son William instead of Connor....

[ClockShot]

Haven't watched any of this season yet. Better than last season so far?

[McLegend]

I don't know. I can't give a clear answer on that.

[McLegend]

No way she's in the grave btw. Don't believe it.

Tonight's episode was good. Got to see The Green Arrow going old school Arrow on people. So what was in the Warehouse?

[Lock Jaw]

Really hope the death thing is just "faking her death to keep her safe".... Oliver hides her away with Merlyn or something while she is in "critical condition", tells everyone she died.

She inevitably comes back and is "furious" or whatever at him for doing that while he is just all "I did it to protect you" in an angry whisper voice. They break up...... but better apart than her dead....

[Sixx]

I just watched one episode of the current season, the crossover with Flash.

What the fuck is with his superhero voice? It sounds ridiculous.

[McLegend]

I like it when Oliver goes off the rails... Poor Felicity :(

Theory time.... Diggle is in the grave. Oliver is not talking about killing Darhk, but killing Andy Diggle, because Andy killed Digg.

Or

Diggle is in the grave, but Merlyn killed him, and Oliver has finally come to his senses about killing Merlyn.

Yeah I don't know about of any these theories, but I still think it's the Mom of Oliver's baby.

[Simple Fan]

Thea could be a possibility I believe. Knew it wouldnt be Felicity though.

[McLegend]

I don't think it's Thea.

Also Laurel remains to be the worst person of all time. How dare she gets mad at Oliver when she has done million of other dumb things, and never explains herself.

Also just one time I want one of Oliver's crazy plans to work.

[Lock Jaw]

My top list of suspects:

Felicity's Mom
Ollie's Son
Ollie's Son's Mom
Roy Harper

[mitchables]

i've moved away from det. lance being my suspected grave-occupier, on account of felicity seemed way *too* upset about it to be him. like she would have been upset about it anyway but i dunno if quite to the level of tearily telling ollie to commit straight-up murder, unless she gets especially close with him while he's throwing it in her mum. plus the mum *has* been popping up a lot more recently, so wouldn't be totally surprised if it's her. still think it could be diggle but i honestly think that would be the dumbest fucking decision this show could make. ollie/diggle friendship is a goddamn pillar of the show, and i don't know that i would enjoy it anywhere near as much without it

they finally properly "oracled" felicity, too. my fiancee (who loves barbara gordon as oracle, don't get me wrong) has been quietly hoping that they'd at least give her that name as a call-sign, but if she's wheelchair-bound from here they've basically straight-up babs'ed her, so would be good for her to get a code name at last

interesting that darhk's wife seems to be totally complicit in his dealings too

dug anarky in his "complete" form. way better than he was before the break.

missed curtis though. was surprised he wasn't seen even in passing visiting felicity in hospital; feel like they've probably reached a stage where he'd do that for her

[McLegend]

Lol I forgot about Curtis.

[mitchables]

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yooooooo

[McLegend]

I didn't see that coming...

Also thought this was going to be the worst Flashback ever, but the end of the flashback tied it together nicely.

Missed the code name Oliver gave Felicity. When did Diggle start going by Spartan? This was the first I've heard that.

[Wishbone]

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yooooooo

Digging the costume, and I'm elated to see Vixen coming to the live action Flarrow-verse. Just wish they'd kept the short hair though. Looks better in my opinion. I mean I'm guessing the actress didn't wanna cut her hair, but it'd just look like 10x better in my opinion.

[Poit]

Missed the code name Oliver gave Felicity.

Overwatch. He said he was going to go with Oracle, but apparently it's taken.

[Simple Fan]

No way Diggle dies after that at least I hope not. Im sticking my Thea assumption and possibly a Roy return as Speedy. Brings Malcolm back into the mix as a villian as well.

[McLegend]

I really like the Flashbacks this year even though it seems like they have been put on the back burner so far. I still don't know where they are going with it, but I'm looking forward to it.

Good sword fight tonight as well.

[mitchables]

guess it could be thea in the grave, if they don't pull her out of the coma. it'd be an easy path to follow from here

buuuut i can't really see ollie killing malcolm (i kind of expect merlyn to be the big bad again next season, having attained full 'archenemy' kinda skill/status, in what i assume will be the show's last year) but i also don't know that nyssa is so dead inside that she wouldn't give them the lotus regardless of whether he succeeds

her line about it kinda bothered me though; if there's a condition, you're not giving it freely. you're giving it conditionally. she should have just said "i'll give it to you on one condition" but i'm being pedantic as hell

either way, i've been wrong before. ANYWAY

about time we got in-canon confirmation that calculator is felicity's dad. feel like that's been fanon for like three years at least, so it's nice to see the show bring that to the screen

so glad to see curtis back also, fucking love that guy. marked out when he used the t-sphere, even if it kind of literally blew up in his face. hoping they start making solid traction on his development into mr terrific soon.

was good to see roy back in the mask. he rocks that arsenal costume. also lovely to see tatsu again. was worried they were gonna 'deadshot' her with suicide squad around the corner but i'm glad that she appears to have been spared a killing-off, for now

weirdly light on diggle this week but i guess he got a solid amount of focus last week so i didn't really notice

laurel seems to be getting marginally less terrible but that also might only be because she didn't do much this week

no idea at this advent how they're gonna weave in vixen, seems heaps left-field/unnecessary at the moment, but i remain excited by the prospect nonetheless

[McLegend]

What do you think about The Island stuff?

[mitchables]

i'm with you in that i'm not really sure what they're ramping up to. in theory they still have another entire year of flashbacks to get through next season before they "catch up" to the start of the series (which is part of why i think it will be a five-season show; plus i'd rather that they keep each individual show to a finite start-finish plan and just replace the old shows with new ones to keep the universe alive - so like a vixen standalone could replace arrow when it finishes [and have team arrow cameos on occasion if they're up for it], rather than just dragging the original show through seven-plus seasons for no reason - that said, i love arrow so i'll probably be all sad if they do can it at season five), so it can't be anything too major in terms of ultimately getting ollie on the path back to starling city for good.

i have liked this season's flashbacks more than the hong kong saga, definitely. dunno what it is that is so interesting about "the island", but i think maybe people felt cheated that he hadn't actually spent the full five years there, kinda. feel like i wasn't alone in not loving hong kong, so i'm glad they dumped him back in the thick of it. no idea what baron reiter's endgame is though. can't wait to see coughlan get his shit ruined; dude is the fucking worst. or he'll come to his senses and turn on reiter at the last minute and still die anyway. either way, i'm fine with it. they're clearly ramping up the mysticism of the whole thing so we should be in store for a pretty good back half.

was nice to see shado back for a spell too, even as a hallucination.

[Lock Jaw]

Wondering why they wouldn't just call John Constantine back.... if whatever he did worked for Sarah, just have him do his magic with Thea too....

[Poit]

... "web nuke"?

[VSG]

Just go with it Poit. I do it all the time :'(

[Poit]

about time we got in-canon confirmation that calculator is felicity's dad. feel like that's been fanon for like three years at least, so it's nice to see the show bring that to the screen

Wait, I'm a bit confused. Has he been on the show before, and I forgot?

[mitchables]

Wait, I'm a bit confused. Has he been on the show before, and I forgot?

nah he hasn't been on it before, but people have been speculating about her dad for years and the calculator was one of the main recurring names brought up in the course thereof. sort of a "wouldn't it be cool if..." kinda thing that the showrunners were either aware of and ran with, or it just made the most sense and was gonna happen regardless

[Poit]

Oh, like, he's a guy from the comics?

[Lock Jaw]

Calculator was a dude from the comics

http://web-images.chacha.com/images/galleryimage-1917490639-jan-16-2012-600x400.jpg
Wore a calculator on his chest as part of his costume and fought Batman

Then he was "re-imagined" much later as the "anti-Oracle" (Oracle being the crippled Barbara Gordon). Hacker/Computer Wiz/Source of Info/Intel but for villains instead of heroes.

[McLegend]

That was good some fuckin good Arrow. I didn't see any of the twist's coming.

However my early prediction of Oliver having to kill Malcolm at the end of the year and not Dahrk is right on the mark... So far

[Lock Jaw]

Pretty game-changing episode right there.

Glad to see Malcolm go full heel again. Never liked the shoe-horning of him into the ally role, however "reluctantly".

[VSG]

Easily one of the best episodes this season, and one I didn't just watch for the sake of it.

[McLegend]

What is going on the Island? Lock Jaw fill me in.

Wonder what Dhark's role is going to be now?

[Lock Jaw]

I have no idea what is happening on the Island..... very interested to see what is in the cave....

Was Dahrk arrested, or what? Didn't he get beat unconscious? Would seem like he should have been arrested, or at the very least "unofficially jailed".

[Lock Jaw]

All I know is that in the comics, Baron Reiter was another name that Baron Blitzkrieg went by very briefly.... but the show character is nothing like him at all.

[Lock Jaw]

Dang..... just found out no new episodes of Arrow or The Flash until the end of March....

[VSG]

I hate this stupid break thing so much.

[McLegend]

I'm about half way through this episode, and I have noticed one thing...

I hate Curtis... He's not doing the gay black demographic any favors.

[McLegend]

That was the worst episode of Arrow ever.

I still like The Island stuff, and would like too see more of it.

[VSG]

Dunno, felt like that episode was still way better than this entire season in general. Or even last season.

[Simple Fan]

Have really only been interested in the flashbacks this season. Still enjoy the show but Flash and Legends have more of my interest.

[McLegend]

That was quality Arrow.

[Lock Jaw]

Yeah....

I know the showrunners are saying "this isn't a fake out", but I really feel like something fishy went on there....

Laurel being all "promise me something" and then they cut away and it is just Ollie and her in the room and she suddenly starts seizing..... fishy.....

Can't think of a good reason for them to fake her death and hide it from everyone else, though....

I know pretty much everyone here hated her character, but I didn't mind her, and I will miss her. I still wanted to eventually get a Laurel/Nyssa buddy cop episode where they fight crime and eat cheeseburgers.

[Simple Fan]

Kind of shocked it was Laural, thought it was going to be Thea. Good episode though next week should be good.

[McLegend]

Yeah....

I know the showrunners are saying "this isn't a fake out", but I really feel like something fishy went on there....

Laurel being all "promise me something" and then they cut away and it is just Ollie and her in the room and she suddenly starts seizing..... fishy.....

Can't think of a good reason for them to fake her death and hide it from everyone else, though....

I know pretty much everyone here hated her character, but I didn't mind her, and I will miss her. I still wanted to eventually get a Laurel/Nyssa buddy cop episode where they fight crime and eat cheeseburgers.
I totally agree with the fake out. Or she give him some vital advice that will be key to Oliver's victory, and it will be referenced at some point.

[Destor]

I love BC/Laurel and I'm really annoyed by this...

[Destor]

Have really only been interested in the flashbacks this season. Still enjoy the show but Flash and Legends have more of my interest.
Yeah. It's funny how we wouldnt have the other two without Arrow but it's become by far the worst of three. I dont hate it, but I find myself just sitting through it most of the time.

[Wishbone]

Good god I felt bad for Captain Lance there. Halfway expected him to have a heart attack and drop dead too. The whole thing did seem odd though, but I can't see them faking her death. I mean she'd have to know how hard it'd hit everyone, especially her dad. No way I could see Laurel doing that to everyone. Plus what do they really have to gain from it anyway? Whatever she told Oliver must have been important though. Maybe asked him to convince her sister to take up the name Black Canary again when she gets back from Legends of Tomorrow stuff? I just can't see them keeping the Black Canary name out of the Green Arrow continuity. I mean, yeah, Arrow has taken a lot of liberties from the comic continuity, but I don't see them flat out getting rid of such an important thing.

[Lock Jaw]

Lots of powerful emotional moments tonight.....

Also, I guess Barry gets his speed back.

[Lock Jaw]

Really want Nyssa to join the main cast....

[Destor]

So...arrow was shitty this week. Like...shitty enough to say this show sucks now.

Arrow tells diggle killing is bad, only to later vow to kill damion.

Felicity has become just thebworst thing ever.

They spoiled the flash

The death of Canary is fine...ish but spilling the beans about her at her funeral was stupid and pointless.

The whole episode was like watchjng BvS all over again. Trying to do half a dozen things and not doing any of them very well.

Really its been bas since the lead writers left for flash, but its gotten worse as time has gone on.

If it wasnt for crossovers id stop watching...still might.

[VSG]

It's definitely a bullshit season. It can't get any worse though, else it would be cancelled. Even the super annoying Felicity + Oliver shippers are not invested anymore.

[McLegend]

I thought it was a good ending, and also thought Stephen Amell was really good.

I liked how they showed why Oliver went back to the Island after Season 1. I actually really liked that. I've always thought about that timeframe.

I do want Nysaa in the main cast as well, but I think Katrina Law is in another show so I don't think that can happen.

I was always against the expansion of this Arrow world(even though Flash is pretty awesome, and Legends is a fun show) because it was going to affect the quality of Arrow which it clearly has. I just want Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg to focus more on Arrow for season 5. Then everything will be fine.

Also I kind of think they should go back to that semi-realistic season 1 and somewhat semi-realistic season 2 vibe. Always have thought this magic stuff hasn't really worked well in Arrow.

I'm going to be fair... This episode tonight wasn't that bad. It had some good moments, and Stephen Amell was in everyone of the .This episode was 10 times better then the God Damn bee episode. I think Arrow will be getting be better to end the Season.

[McLegend]

Sara did get a better memorial episode in Season 3. That episode was pantheon level Arrow. Might have to go rewatch that.

[Lock Jaw]

Diggle crossing the line tonight..... But he had to... Andy would never have stopped coming after him and his family....

Just like Slade Wilson will never have stopped coming after Oliver and his family, so he had to put him down................... Oh, wait...... never mind......

[McLegend]

Then Diggle lied about it.!.!.!.!.

I like the crossing of the morality line. Also that was the first time since like season 1 episode 10 I believe that there weren't any flashbacks. Unless you count all that stuff on he Faux Island?

I also have no idea how Oliver could repel Dahrk's attack. I was kind of lost on that whole thing.

Looks like Thea is now in the Truman show.

[McLegend]

I'm watching last week's Arrow tonight...

And I hate Curtis. He is a terrible combo of Sisco and Felicity.

[McLegend]

Last week's Arrow wasn't good.

Tonight was good.

Better finale then Flash. Arrow is much better when if focuses less on Felicity stories and more on Oliver like tonight. Have to do more of that next year. Also no more magic and very limited meta human interaction next year on Arrow is what I want.

Make Arrow great again.

[Lock Jaw]

Decent finale, I guess.... I like the "final shot" of the four costumes in cases.... Just "set the scene" that this team which was once "so strong" and "united" is basically just down to two....

Plus Oliver as Mayor will be sure to throw in some good wrinkles for next season...

I guess Flashbacks next season will involve Oliver's adventures in Russia....

[Simple Fan]

Cody Rhodes and Stephen Amell will join forces once again during Season 5 of Arrow, thanks to Rhodes being cast in a mystery role on the superhero show.

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[McLegend]

That's awesome

[VSG]

Very cool

[McLegend]

Quality Arrow on TNT right now.

[Lock Jaw]

Damn, they moved Arrow from CTV to CTV Two, which I don't seem to get in HD......

Luckily I have some sort of actual CW channel, but it doesn't air on there until 9PM.....

[McLegend]

I really liked it tonight. It had an old feel.

Lot of asses being kicked.

[Simple Fan]

Parachute arrow was pretty cool. Diggle looks like Big E.

[Lock Jaw]

Some good action..... not sure how I feel about Oliver killing again.... feel like Felicity would not be cool with that....... or Lance......

[McLegend]

I don't know. I liked it from the point that aggressive Oliver is always good. I'm big fan of that guy.

I know it was Damien Dahrk, but Felecity last year was "You have to kill that Son of bitch!" Maybe she is more opened to it now.

[Destor]

Good opener

[McLegend]

I liked this 2nd one to, and I hope they keep it going.

I'm intrigued by Prometheus even he is a ripoff of Zoom so far.

[Destor]

Arrow and friends is awful and i hope they all die

[Lock Jaw]

I kind of like it..... another aspect of Oliver "growing"..... that while he has had a team and worked with others before, he still needs to learn how to be a leader.......

New Dark Archer is Prometheus, huh? Weird that they would turn him into another "Dark Archer", which we have already seen, instead of keeping him more like his comic book namesake......

[Lock Jaw]

Also, "ha ha" at the promo for next week's episode, Cody Rhodes playing a "stardust dealer"

[McLegend]

I thought I heard Stardust mentioned.

The Dark Archer was awesome from season 1, but Promethus doesn't seem so bad right now. I want to see where this goes.

[Destor]

This seasons strategy: replace characters i didnt care much about with characters i care nothing about

[Lock Jaw]

Glad they had Curtis "put his hair away" for when he is being Mr. Terrific..... looked good with the jacket and the mask...... just wish he was actually..... good. Hopefully they make him more competent/confident/capable, and also give him his T-Spheres.........

[Simple Fan]

Hate this new team as well. Only one I like of the bunch is Mad Dog.

[McLegend]

I continue to not like Curtis, but I like everyone else.

Really liking Oliver this year. Also Ragman is pretty cool.

[McLegend]

Last night's episode was awesome.

I have to look in to it, but it might have been the best episode in 2 years. I'm not ready to say it yet though.

[Lock Jaw]

Was alright.

Still not "super into" the new team......

[Destor]

Im thinking about never watching again.

Or maybe just the corssoevers. when they do the multi show cross over im gonng see how lost i think i would be if i wasnt watching arrow.

[McLegend]

The Promethus and Tobias Church stuff was awesome. The last scene was well done. I'm a big fan of Bratva so far.

The new team doesn't really bother me or excite me. That might not be a good sign.

I'm just really into what they are doing with Oliver this year. So far things have been way more focused on him then they were last season, and it's definitely been better than last year.

[McLegend]

I love Season 5. I love Promethus and his or her's music.

Only way I can be disappointed in Promethus is if he or she ends up being Malcolm Merlin. Usually on Arrow the answer to the mystery is Malcolm Merlin. I don't need that right now.

[Blonde Moment]

I love Season 5. I love Promethus and his or her's music.

Only way I can be disappointed in Promethus is if he or she ends up being Malcolm Merlin. Usually on Arrow the answer to the mystery is Malcolm Merlin. I don't need that right now.

Robert Queen

[McLegend]

Arrow is great this year.

I love it.

[McLegend]

Promethus' voice and music are perfect. I'm so happy Arrow is great again.

[Lock Jaw]

I do not like the team at all

Just feels like the previous members of the team all were "built up" and had "backstory" leading to them joining the team and had their own characters and stories, and you cared about them

Where this season was just like "alright here are a bunch of dudes, they are on the team now"

[Lock Jaw]

Other than the team, I like the story, yeah.

[Destor]

Ep 100 was very good. That is the only good thing i can say about it

[Blonde Moment]

Ep 100 was very good. That is the only good thing i can say about it
Is that really a good thing?

[Destor]

Is that really a good thing?

Well ep 100 was as gpod as any arrow ep that ever was. I think thats a good thing. Show is fucking awful though. Ep 100 bought them the rest of the season for me but its thin ice.

[McLegend]

I do not like the team at all

Just feels like the previous members of the team all were "built up" and had "backstory" leading to them joining the team and had their own characters and stories, and you cared about them

Where this season was just like "alright here are a bunch of dudes, they are on the team now"

But let's be fair here. Sara and Roy(most of the time) were the only good additions to the team ever. All of the others just dragged the show down as well.

These new team members just give Promethus more people to beat up and kill. What's so wrong with that? I'm all for it.

Only negative is that Ivan drago wasn't in the last two episodes.

Curtis is still terrible though.

[RP]

I'm just glad they added a black guy and a gay guy all in one. Two birds with one stone.

[Destor]

Decent midseason premier.

I cant hear prometheus speak with out thinking i am weasel

Oliver and company still sucks

Black Canary being back was welcomed

[McLegend]

Funny enough I didn't like this episode that much. I do like the Russian stuff, and I am interested in seeing what Talia can do. Still need Ivan Drago.

Prometheus is still awesome, and could Talia still be Prometheus?

[Lock Jaw]

"Interesting" @ them introducing Dinah Drake...... maybe we will finally have a new member of the team that "doesn't suck"........

[RP]

Havent liked this new season at all.

[Lock Jaw]

Been liking Legends of Tomorrow the best this season, and prob enjoyed it the least last season.

[McLegend]

No Promethus and Ivan Drago, but otherwise I liked it tonight

I still think Promethus is Talia. I enjoy Talia.

[McLegend]

O and that flash drive was clearly a trap set by someone.

[RP]

Flash is getting better this season. The last episode was good.

[Destor]

Arrow to Dinah: you killed that man!

*meanwhile back at the ranch Casey Jones is unloaded clip after clip in waves of cronies*

[McLegend]

Or don't forget Oliver blowing up the helicopter killing the pilot a minute before that.

[McLegend]

Only compliant I have with last night's episode is that it shouldn't be that surprising that Oliver is the Green Arrow when he has been accused of it twice now.

[Destor]

It's a standard super hero arc.

[Destor]

I finally dumped arrow. Ill record crossovers but thats it.