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scatterbrain28
10-18-2013, 08:22 AM
The thing I wonder is why there aren't more TNA refugees coming over to WWE. I mean if they're cutting costs to go to one location, just go where the money is. And if the booking is crap, they could go on WWE and tell them how much they suck, like WCW shortly before its demise.

I've checked the TNA Heavyweight title history yesterday, and all I saw was WWE guy, WWE guy, WWE guy. They have established guys like Samoa Joe and Christopher Daniels, but they don't seem to care because they came from sweatbox, but we'll wine and dine these WWE guys because we don't want them going back. If anything, this is sounding a little too familiar. Is there anything you guys want to add here?

Corporate CockSnogger
10-18-2013, 08:24 AM
Nope, nothing to add here, I think you covered everything. Good job.

Shisen Kopf
10-18-2013, 08:27 AM
Lol TNA.

XL
10-18-2013, 08:46 AM
Is this their new PPV name? Hopefully a Knockout's special.

Heisenberg
10-18-2013, 08:54 AM
Wrestling is going down

Book reading is going down

Wrestler wives are going down

Lotta things going down right naw

Kris P Lettus
10-18-2013, 09:01 AM
Everyone of their ppvs is called bound for glory

Kris P Lettus
10-18-2013, 09:02 AM
Dude wrestling last night looked like a buff, tattooed hacksaw jim duggan

Heisenberg
10-18-2013, 09:09 AM
Gunner I presume

Innovator
10-18-2013, 09:24 AM
Big Sexy said it best: WWE didn't just spend a shitload of money for their Performance Center to sign and develop TNA guys at higher pay.

Cool King
10-18-2013, 09:33 AM
I've checked the TNA Heavyweight title history yesterday, and all I saw was WWE guy, WWE guy, WWE guy. They have established guys like Samoa Joe and Christopher Daniels, but they don't seem to care because they came from sweatbox, but we'll wine and dine these WWE guys because we don't want them going back.

I've just checked the title history myself and it's really not as bad as you're making it out to be.

Just under half of the guys are former WWE Talent. You also have Sting who is a former WCW guy and the rest are TNA guys.

If you want, you can even take Bully Ray out of the "WWE Pile" and place him with the TNA guys, as before heading to TNA, you couldn't really imagine him being a world champion and even though I don't watch TNA, I have heard that Bully Ray in TNA has been nothing but top notch. Before heading to TNA, all the WWE guys that would later become TNA Champion were established main eventers but Bully Ray wasn't as such. From what I hear and read, he is now.

You also have to remember that one of the best title runs (again, from what I've heard) was Bobby Roode's, a TNA guy. He was champion for almost a year and then he lost it to Austin Aries, another TNA guy.

So I personally wouldn't say that they don't care about them.

scatterbrain28
10-18-2013, 10:18 AM
Well, the NWA title, which was under TNA's care from 2002-2007, you had Jarrett and Shamrock, which I will let go because you want a few name guys to launch your company, but Raven, Rhyno and Christian held the belt after 2005.

I would like to see a Christopher Daniels TNA title reign though.

The Midnight Gertner
10-18-2013, 10:44 AM
Worst wrestling forum on the internet

Corporate CockSnogger
10-18-2013, 10:54 AM
Ok, owenbrown. Keep complaining :roll:

Anybody Thrilla
10-18-2013, 11:04 AM
I may be wrong, but 2007 was six years ago.

The Midnight Gertner
10-18-2013, 11:38 AM
Worst wrestling forum on the internet

I may be wrong, but 2007 was six years ago.

Wehttam
10-18-2013, 12:26 PM
tna's going down

just like your iq if you read a post by scatterbrain28

Volare
10-18-2013, 01:14 PM
Thanks for getting this song in my head.

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Cool King
10-18-2013, 02:15 PM
Thanks for getting this song in my head.

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Razzamajazz
10-18-2013, 03:22 PM
thanks for getting THIS song in my head

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mike adamle
10-18-2013, 04:56 PM
I've just checked the title history myself and it's really not as bad as you're making it out to be.

Just under half of the guys are former WWE Talent. You also have Sting who is a former WCW guy and the rest are TNA guys.

If you want, you can even take Bully Ray out of the "WWE Pile" and place him with the TNA guys, as before heading to TNA, you couldn't really imagine him being a world champion and even though I don't watch TNA, I have heard that Bully Ray in TNA has been nothing but top notch. Before heading to TNA, all the WWE guys that would later become TNA Champion were established main eventers but Bully Ray wasn't as such. From what I hear and read, he is now.

You also have to remember that one of the best title runs (again, from what I've heard) was Bobby Roode's, a TNA guy. He was champion for almost a year and then he lost it to Austin Aries, another TNA guy.

So I personally wouldn't say that they don't care about them.

I know Kurt Angle made his name in the WWE (and the Olympics) but I don't see why he can't be considered a TNA guy at this point. He's been with them since late 2006, and has devoted a lot of his time to this company and put on numerous classics with them. Sting is another one that could easily be considered a TNA guy at this point since WCW hasn't even been around for the last dozen years. Plus, those two are wrestling legends, what's wrong with them holding your top prize? The only "WWE guy" that I'd have a legit gripe about for holding that belt is Mick Foley, and that's only because of how old he was at that point. But again, he's a wrestling legend, it's not that bad. If Hulk Hogan can win the WWE Undisputed title in 2002, why can't these guys carry the TNA strap on?

DAMN iNATOR
10-18-2013, 11:15 PM
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ONE OF US IS GOIN' DOWN!

Tom Guycott
10-19-2013, 12:20 AM
If you want, you can even take Bully Ray out of the "WWE Pile" and place him with the TNA guys, as before heading to TNA, you couldn't really imagine him being a world champion and even though I don't watch TNA, I have heard that Bully Ray in TNA has been nothing but top notch. Before heading to TNA, all the WWE guys that would later become TNA Champion were established main eventers but Bully Ray wasn't as such. From what I hear and read, he is now.



Well, the NWA title, which was under TNA's care from 2002-2007, you had Jarrett and Shamrock, which I will let go because you want a few name guys to launch your company, but Raven, Rhyno and Christian held the belt after 2005.


... none of which were "main event WWE guys", much to Cool King's nearly unreadable point. Hell, Christian was pretty much in the positon Bully Ray is now: he had a lot of detractors that didn't buy him as a main event player in WWE.

The argument could be made for guys like Angle, Jeff Hardy run, but someone like Raven, for example, had more cred on him from his ECW days than anything he ever did in WWE or WCW combined. Nearly the same could be said for Rhino... he was a monster, but a "small" monster.

Also, Jarrett shouldn't count as a WWE guy either. It was kinda his company. Also, he was main event in WCW. Most he did in WWE was lip sync to Road Dogg singing, mysogonistically berate Deborah, and trade the Blue Blazer mask with Owen a few times.

#1-wwf-fan
10-19-2013, 01:34 AM
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Innovator
10-19-2013, 09:20 AM
thanks for getting THIS song in my head

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The Midnight Gertner
10-19-2013, 10:31 AM
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Razzamajazz
10-19-2013, 05:22 PM
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Razzamajazz
10-19-2013, 05:24 PM
that video is a bitch to find now, it got taken down everywhere

Curd
10-20-2013, 04:10 AM
Austin Aries is yet another TNA wrestler who does music on the side, but he doesn't play this up in the fed like Jeff Hardy and Mickie James do. Maybe Aries wants to keep his music and wrestling separate to minimize the professional stigma (against his background) if he wants to do music entirely when TNA's gone or has released him.

Anybody Thrilla
10-20-2013, 09:52 AM
What kind of music does Aries do?

#1-wwf-fan
10-20-2013, 08:19 PM
If his music is anything like his TNA run then I'd guess whatever kind of music CM Punk does.

Curd
10-21-2013, 02:43 AM
Aries sang in an alt-rock cover band called Zeno's Revenge, but he also tended bar.
http://blogs.poughkeepsiejournal.com/underthering/2013/10/14/under-the-ring-interview-with-austin-aries-discussing-everything-including-bound-for-glory/

I've not seen or heard any connection to his current musical projects.

Curd
10-21-2013, 03:27 AM
While on the subject of TNA, don't do business with Jay Hassman because he's known to hide negative operations information. Bad consultant!
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/Reviews/2007/11/27/4690673.html

Raven Reaper
10-21-2013, 03:30 AM
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Schlomey
10-21-2013, 08:48 AM
I feel really sad for the wrestlers, tbh.


this was in regards to the picture above.

Razzamajazz
10-21-2013, 09:03 AM
promotions have done that forever so it looks like there's alot more in the crowd than there is.

Razzamajazz
10-21-2013, 09:04 AM
there was a smackdown i went to a couple years ago that had very few people on the same side as the main camera too.

parkmania
10-21-2013, 09:09 AM
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thanks for getting THIS song in my head


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Schlomey
10-21-2013, 09:15 AM
there was a smackdown i went to a couple years ago that had very few people on the same side as the main camera too.

Bound for Glory is the TNA equivalent to Wrestlemania.....A bit different than a Smackdown taping, IMHO.

Razzamajazz
10-21-2013, 09:22 AM
yeah, but it's tna, so their wrestlemania should be about the same as a generic wwe tv show

Schlomey
10-21-2013, 09:26 AM
yeah, but it's tna, so their wrestlemania should be about the same as a generic wwe tv show

This just supports my claim that it is sad for the wrestlers.

Rollermacka
10-21-2013, 05:13 PM
I'm curious though, what does it matter where TNA world champs worked at before TNA? It not like people looked at WWE in 2000 and said, Undertaker, HHH, Mick Foley, Steve Austin are the top guys and they all worked for WCW so that means WWE is going down...

Hanso Amore
10-21-2013, 06:55 PM
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God I hate the IWC

Who cares about the Empty seats.

4000 people are not shown in that picture.

4000 is what t hey normally draw, actually is more than they normally draw. Like ive said, thats more than most ECW PPVs.

Hanso Amore
10-21-2013, 06:56 PM
They just happened to book into a large arena they couldnt fill, and more than likely never planned to.

scatterbrain28
10-21-2013, 07:07 PM
I'm curious though, what does it matter where TNA world champs worked at before TNA? It not like people looked at WWE in 2000 and said, Undertaker, HHH, Mick Foley, Steve Austin are the top guys and they all worked for WCW so that means WWE is going down...

I'm going to answer you the best I can here. The point i was making was that I wanted more guys from the indies or guys established before the rush of WWE guys came in. A title reign from Daniels and one more for Samoa Joe would be nice. Even one for Jay Letal, a solid enough worker. Putting the belt on WWE midcarders that are good enough workers sounds good in practice, but yet they're not making any money.


In 2000 in WWE, you had the red hot McMahon-Helmsley storyline. On the WCW side of things, talent (Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero, Saturn) jumped ship to WWF and Russo put the belt on a non-wrestler (Dave Arquette). If that's not a red flag I don't know what is.


After giving the wikipedia TNA Championship page a second look, it's nearly half and half. There's just some guys I wish would have the belt more. It may make more revenue. Is there any other way TNA would make more cash?

MIZantine Empire
10-22-2013, 12:55 AM
I won tickets to the tna house show that came to my neck of the woods about a month ago, and that was my first time seeing tna in person. I will say they had a lot of good going on. Jeremy borash was giving fans who cheered loudly backstage passes. (I got one, don't know how lol) and security was going around escorting families and kids to the empty seats around the ring. That being said u could tell they are hurting financially.. Those backstage passes were $50 if u wanted to buy them, or u got one free for buying a $375 belt. Was psyched to meet bully Ray, James storm, gunner, booby roode and a-double, but wouldn't have been worth $50.. My point is, seemed like they were catering to the fans, whereas wwe is more like get the show over with and get the hell out of town

Curd
10-22-2013, 04:15 AM
I'm curious though, what does it matter where TNA world champs worked at before TNA? It not like people looked at WWE in 2000 and said, Undertaker, HHH, Mick Foley, Steve Austin are the top guys and they all worked for WCW so that means WWE is going down...

I'm sure most casual fans don't care, but the IWC doesn't want the same aging champs from one fed to also dominate in other feds.

Many IWC members want TNA, ROH, etc. to gradually build their homegrown talent to topple the former WWE champs who wrestle there, instead of having homegrown be second-tier until those post-WWE wrestlers either return to WWE or retire. There must a torch passing, unlike Hogan's anticlimactic departure from TNA.

On the bright side, Sting put over Magnus while Kurt Angle put over Bobby Roode. AJ Styles finally got his title win over Bully Ray! :y:

I just hope Styles' cartilage tear doesn't cause TNA to force an overturn of his win ala Bryan vs. Orton.
http://www.tpww.net/2013/10/4-top-tna-talents-injured-at-bound-for-glory/

The Midnight Gertner
10-22-2013, 04:26 AM
God I hate the IWC

Who cares about the Empty seats.

4000 people are not shown in that picture.

4000 is what t hey normally draw, actually is more than they normally draw. Like ive said, thats more than most ECW PPVs.

That's incorrect. ECW ppv's from 97 on routinely drew more than 4000.

Rollermacka
10-22-2013, 03:41 PM
I'm going to answer you the best I can here. The point i was making was that I wanted more guys from the indies or guys established before the rush of WWE guys came in. A title reign from Daniels and one more for Samoa Joe would be nice. Even one for Jay Letal, a solid enough worker. Putting the belt on WWE midcarders that are good enough workers sounds good in practice, but yet they're not making any money.


In 2000 in WWE, you had the red hot McMahon-Helmsley storyline. On the WCW side of things, talent (Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero, Saturn) jumped ship to WWF and Russo put the belt on a non-wrestler (Dave Arquette). If that's not a red flag I don't know what is.


After giving the wikipedia TNA Championship page a second look, it's nearly half and half. There's just some guys I wish would have the belt more. It may make more revenue. Is there any other way TNA would make more cash?

Looking at some of the "WWE guys" who have won the title, I wouldn't necessarily categorize guys like Bully Ray or Jeff Hardy as WWE guys. Bully Ray looks better today than he ever did in WWE or ECW. Even when Jeff went back to the WWE in 2006, he never had that same pizzazz he has in TNA (same could be said with Christian). I think TNA has plenty of main eventers, guys who can be moved up to main event status very easily and plenty of guys with the potential to be main eventers who had nothing to do with WWE.

Heisenberg
10-23-2013, 01:50 PM
I won tickets to the tna house show that came to my neck of the woods about a month ago, and that was my first time seeing tna in person. I will say they had a lot of good going on. Jeremy borash was giving fans who cheered loudly backstage passes. (I got one, don't know how lol) and security was going around escorting families and kids to the empty seats around the ring. That being said u could tell they are hurting financially.. Those backstage passes were $50 if u wanted to buy them, or u got one free for buying a $375 belt. Was psyched to meet bully Ray, James storm, gunner, booby roode and a-double, but wouldn't have been worth $50.. My point is, seemed like they were catering to the fans, whereas wwe is more like get the show over with and get the hell out of town

HEY MAN, I ONLY WANNA POST WIT UUUUUUUUUOOOOO

XL
10-23-2013, 08:50 PM
Re: crowd figures

It's not really fair to compare TNA and ECW. The latter existed in a boom period for wrestling, when PPVs weren't easily available to stream for free online live or a few hours thereafter. TNA exists in a time where WWE are the market leaders by an enormous margin.

However, it's only fair to point out that ECW existed on what I assume was a much tighter budget. They created their own stars (Taz, Raven, Sandman, Dreamer, Rhyno, etc) and guys like Austin, Foley, Mysterio, Guerrero went there before becoming stars. Meanwhile, TNA has built its name using some home-grown talent but with the benefit of bolstering their product with names made famous in WCW and WWE. With that in mind, it's probably fair to say that TNA should be in a stronger position than ECW ever was.

Re: TNA Champions

People make it sound like TNA throw the belt on any old WWE guy that comes in and that's just not true. Any company would put their top belt on Angle - gold medal winner who is regarded as one of the best in-ring talents ever - or an incredibly popular guy like Hardy. You'd be stupid not to use these guys to lift the profile of the belt/company. Even a guy like Christian was a good fit for the belt. People were clamouring for WWE to do something with him, to give him a shot at the top, TNA were just givng (some of) the fans what they wanted.

On the flip side, TNA has put the belt on Sabin, Bully Ray, Aries, Roode and Storm in the last few years. Add Styles to that list and I don't think they're doing too badly.

The Midnight Gertner
10-24-2013, 04:09 AM
ECW's salaries did get out of control. Mike Awesome was making $250,000 a year. They had no national TV till the end when the company was on it's last legs. You can compare the two because it's not ECW's fault that TNA hasn't created stars. The WWF had an even larger margain than ECW if you think about it.

People compare ROH to ECW, but ECW was more personality based. Both are niche markets but ECW appealed to a broader audience.

Noid
10-25-2013, 09:50 PM
I would have used Jeff Hardy differently (I would have brought him in as an X-Division star), but I agree with pretty much every person TNA has decided to put their World Title on before. Chris Sabin might be the only one that kind of felt out of place, but it's something that he can now brag about as an amazing heel. Doesn't quite feel as bizarre as Dolph Ziggler or Jack Swagger winning World Titles when they did. Or Daniel Bryan for that matter.

Rumors are suggesting that Kurt Angle, Austin Aries, Chris Sabin, Jeff Hardy, Samoa Joe, Magnus, Bobby Roode and James Storm are going to be entered into a tournament to decide the new TNA World Heavyweight Champion now that AJ Styles has left with the title. If you put them into those brackets (although nothing says that the company would do that):

* Kurt Angle could defeat Austin Aries in a Match of the Year candidate that we all would be lucky to see. Aries is phenomenal and all, but the story seems to be on Kurt Angle trying to prove he still has more of a legacy to leave.

* Jeff Hardy could defeat the X-Division Champion, Chris Sabin, which would give Hardy a big win and keep their biggest merchandise winner relevant and could add to Sabin's heat as he reminds us that he's still a champion and gets to go and bang Velvet Sky.

* Magnus could defeat Samoa Joe. As much as I love Joe and wish he was pushed as the badass he could be, Magnus seems to be their rising star at the moment and someone that they should be angling towards a World Title shot. Magnus could get the leverage pin on Joe while Joe has a Coquina Clutch locked in on Magnus, allowing Joe to look solid in the victory. A handshake between the two can close the match.

* Bobby Roode would beat James Storm because Bobby Roode is consistently one of the best heels in professional wrestling and deserves to make tracks towards the title. Bad Influence can bring out a beaten-down Gunner to the stage which can distract Storm long enough for Roode to hit a Northern Lariat and The Payoff for the victory.

* Kurt Angle can defeat Jeff Hardy with the Ankle Lock to win their semi-finals match, since Angle has the greater story to tell. The two can embrace after the match as Angle has one more match left to win to become a 12-time World Heavyweight Champion.

* Magnus defeats Bobby Roode after Samoa Joe and Sting make sure that Bad Influence won't be a factor in a backstage brawl earlier in the night.

* It doesn't matter who you have win the finals, since both men have had a tremendous story heading to the top. I think the most interesting outcome would be for Kurt Angle to succeed by rolling up Magnus for the win, and then a pissed off Magnus to attack Angle after the match, setting up a feud between the two.

Rollermacka
10-25-2013, 10:46 PM
Re: TNA Champions

People make it sound like TNA throw the belt on any old WWE guy that comes in and that's just not true. Any company would put their top belt on Angle - gold medal winner who is regarded as one of the best in-ring talents ever - or an incredibly popular guy like Hardy. You'd be stupid not to use these guys to lift the profile of the belt/company. Even a guy like Christian was a good fit for the belt. People were clamouring for WWE to do something with him, to give him a shot at the top, TNA were just givng (some of) the fans what they wanted.

On the flip side, TNA has put the belt on Sabin, Bully Ray, Aries, Roode and Storm in the last few years. Add Styles to that list and I don't think they're doing too badly.

So I guess my last question is, why would you not put a belt on someone like Anderson or RVD when they jumped ship to TNA? RVD was a former world champion, has proven to be able to sell tickets and move merchandise. Anderson was picked by many to be "the next major star" in the WWE, although that didn't pan out, why wouldn't you try to make him that in your company? It's not like the Nasty Boys and Sean Morley won championships as soon as they jumped ship.

Noid
10-25-2013, 10:49 PM
Sean Morley not winning a championship as soon as he jumped ship has been a terrible event that TNA is still trying to recover from.

The Midnight Gertner
10-25-2013, 11:13 PM
look at Noid get all snarky.

#1-wwf-fan
10-26-2013, 12:39 AM
They really should have made it a point to make Mr. Anderson the face of the company. They've always needed someone to really become "THE guy" and he would have been the perfect candidate.

Noid
10-26-2013, 03:58 AM
They kind of fumbled with Anderson. He came in when too many other people were getting pushes, and then they put the World Title on him, then took it off him, then put it on him, then took it off him. He was a top merchandise mover for them for a while.

Noid
10-26-2013, 04:02 AM
It's a shame things didn't work out with Desmond Wolfe. That guy was amazing while they had him. In the ring he was this vicious indie guy that all the smarks love, but he had personality and you essentially knew what he was about the moment he showed up. And he had that Chelsea girl with her, which worked far better than it should have. I hope he didn't give her Hepatitis B.

Noid
10-26-2013, 04:06 AM
Didn't Wolfe win some sort of fan poll asking who they wanted to see challenge for the World Title? They should have gone further with him then.

taker707
10-27-2013, 10:28 PM
Dave Meltzer is reporting that the Carter family wants to throw the towel in on TNA and sell the company to the highest bidder. Interested/Rumoured parties range from Eric Bischoff, Jeff Jarrett, Viacom and even the WWE.

Dave Meltzer revealed the news on his radio show today that they've been wanting to get out of the wrestling business for several months now, after they've thrown everything at the company without any results.

Vastardikai
10-27-2013, 10:59 PM
So, who's going to be Brie Bella's stalker: Samoa Joe, Austin Aries, or Bobby Roode?

SlickyTrickyDamon
10-28-2013, 03:57 AM
Aries Vs. Daniel Bryan....

Somebody pinch me.

bigmac
10-28-2013, 07:02 AM
I've watched bits of TNA on and off over the last 5 years or so but not for about a year now. One of the problems with them is that they really have committed to making some "The Guy". Look at Bobby Roode, they make him the longest reigning World Champion in TNA history, then once he loses it they sort of lose interest in him and he is off being a tag team again. Same with Aries. Went off the boil with Styles after he lost it. They really got to build someone up to the point where they are TNA's Cena.

scatterbrain28
10-28-2013, 07:28 AM
Aries Vs. Daniel Bryan....

Somebody pinch me.

How about this chief, I went on Yahoo video and they had several matches in ROH including a 2/3 falls match that was an hour long.

Vastardikai
10-28-2013, 02:52 PM
Just know that, whoever fills that role, will end up jobbing to Brie Bella.

whiteyford
10-28-2013, 03:46 PM
How about this chief, I went on Yahoo video and they had several matches in ROH including a 2/3 falls match that was an hour long.

I think you'll find that was Bryan Danielson. Chief.


Yes I know it's the same person, so are Kane, Isaac Yankem and that Diesel looking fellow who wasn't Diesel.

whiteyford
10-28-2013, 03:47 PM
Oh and vote for whitey, I might be a cunt but the dinosaur is adorable.

MIZantine Empire
10-29-2013, 09:39 AM
HEY MAN, I ONLY WANNA POST WIT UUUUUUUUUOOOOO

Read this as hootie and the blowfish lol

Curd
10-29-2013, 07:53 PM
Just know that, whoever fills that role, will end up jobbing to Brie Bella.

I guess Samoa Joe so that we can see a "wobbly" Bella (thanks Rog) versus a jiggly Joe. Maybe with WWE returning blood to the TV, we can bring back the violence against women so that Samoa would be able to get in some offense. :)

MIZantine Empire
10-30-2013, 08:42 AM
I'd kill for a Samoa joe vs Antonio cesaro match

Noid
11-01-2013, 11:22 AM
So, who's going to be Brie Bella's stalker: Samoa Joe, Austin Aries, or Bobby Roode?

It's got to be someone who is such a babyface in TNA and would logically be a good candidate to normally rally behind. AJ Styles seems like the best choice for stalker, and a Bryan vs. Styles match would be really good.

Noid
11-01-2013, 11:23 AM
If the WWE buys TNA, I hope they kayfabe it and have someone snatch it out from Triple H, Stephanie and Vince and turn it into a safe-haven for stars who don't want to be mistreated by The Authority. Within the realm of TNA, Hulk Hogan would actually make sense. Even if they just did it as a one-off appearance for Hogan and had him relinquish control to a new General Manager.

Noid
11-01-2013, 11:25 AM
Not only would a WWE vs. TNA storyline be entertaining and at least lead to fresh match-ups, but an NXT vs. OVW storyline would be amazing. Who would be able to resist watching Bo-VW?

Curd
11-01-2013, 07:24 PM
It's got to be someone who is such a babyface in TNA and would logically be a good candidate to normally rally behind. AJ Styles seems like the best choice for stalker, and a Bryan vs. Styles match would be really good.

Ugh, I'd book it so that it's a big misunderstanding and that AJ wasn't trying to "stalk" Brie but was attempting to catch her in an act of infidelity to help Bryan. Styles is too well known as a Christian family man, like Sting, for that angle to go over well unless he's booked as a very heelish hypocrite who no longer gives a damn. :|

parkmania
11-03-2013, 12:58 AM
Not only would a WWE vs. TNA storyline be entertaining and at least lead to fresh match-ups, but an NXT vs. OVW storyline would be amazing. Who would be able to resist watching Bo-VW?

Except that TNA doesn't own OVW, and according to Ryan Clark, no longer even has a working partnership with them.

whiteyford
11-03-2013, 05:32 AM
TNA isn't WCW, it's not even ECW, the average WWE fan has no idea who any of the TNA roster are outside of former WWE talents, really don't get how folk can get all excited about an Invasion 2.0 when it's more like Jim Cornette leading the NWA faction.

erickman
11-03-2013, 09:28 AM
if it is sold i hope it is double j that gets it, he was the one that ran it best, wwe is not buying it, if anything vince will loan jeff the money to keep tna afloat. when wwe took over wcw that was the worst day in wrestling history and vince does not want to repeat it.

mike adamle
11-03-2013, 09:43 AM
Would be cool if TNA was bought by WWE but kept it's own entity

Broken Wheel
11-03-2013, 11:44 AM
Maybe Hunter and Steph will buy it.

Volare
11-03-2013, 01:34 PM
If the Billy Corrigan rumors are true, this might not be a bad thing. He is a major fan from what I've read about him, and wouldn't want to hurt the business.....at least I don't think he would.

SlickyTrickyDamon
11-03-2013, 01:35 PM
It's got to be someone who is such a babyface in TNA and would logically be a good candidate to normally rally behind. AJ Styles seems like the best choice for stalker, and a Bryan vs. Styles match would be really good.

Joseph Park.

taker707
11-03-2013, 03:29 PM
If the Billy Corrigan rumors are true, this might not be a bad thing. He is a major fan from what I've read about him, and wouldn't want to hurt the business.....at least I don't think he would.

How is a Musician who knows nothing of how to run a company is good? Agree it is better than the Carter's. Still think Viacom is best choice. Would be eerily similar to WCW. Crocket's owned it but were bleeding money in the end. Sells to major media conglomerate.

dronepool
11-03-2013, 03:51 PM
If he buys it, maybe get Russo and Eric Bischoff to help him run things and improve production.. ect

WWE shows feel like a KISS show. TNA feels like a band playing in a club.

MIZantine Empire
11-07-2013, 11:33 AM
How is a Musician who knows nothing of how to run a company is good? Agree it is better than the Carter's. Still think Viacom is best choice. Would be eerily similar to WCW. Crocket's owned it but were bleeding money in the end. Sells to major media conglomerate.

He has run his own wrestling company for the last two years. Idk how successful they are, but at least he does have more experience goin in than the Carters

Curd
11-07-2013, 03:36 PM
How is a Musician who knows nothing of how to run a company is good? Agree it is better than the Carter's. Still think Viacom is best choice. Would be eerily similar to WCW. Crocket's owned it but were bleeding money in the end. Sells to major media conglomerate.

Well, one of the PPV gimmicks will be a bunch of wrestlers arriving into / escaping from the arena in that blimp / spaceship from the music video for "Tonight, Tonight" :) !!! ;)

Wehttam
11-07-2013, 03:38 PM
How is a Musician who knows nothing of how to run a company is good? Agree it is better than the Carter's. Still think Viacom is best choice. Would be eerily similar to WCW. Crocket's owned it but were bleeding money in the end. Sells to major media conglomerate.

you'd be changing your tune if he started booking teen girl wrestling matches

parkmania
11-08-2013, 06:26 PM
Well, one of the PPV gimmicks will be a bunch of wrestlers arriving into / escaping from the arena in that blimp / spaceship from the music video for "Tonight, Tonight" :) !!! ;)

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Noid
11-11-2013, 08:48 PM
Would love to see a TNA/ROH crossover angle. Might actually create interest in both.