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Old 10-18-2013, 09:22 AM   #1
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TNA's going down
The thing I wonder is why there aren't more TNA refugees coming over to WWE. I mean if they're cutting costs to go to one location, just go where the money is. And if the booking is crap, they could go on WWE and tell them how much they suck, like WCW shortly before its demise.

I've checked the TNA Heavyweight title history yesterday, and all I saw was WWE guy, WWE guy, WWE guy. They have established guys like Samoa Joe and Christopher Daniels, but they don't seem to care because they came from sweatbox, but we'll wine and dine these WWE guys because we don't want them going back. If anything, this is sounding a little too familiar. Is there anything you guys want to add here?
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:24 AM   #2
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:27 AM   #3
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:46 AM   #4
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I've checked the TNA Heavyweight title history yesterday, and all I saw was WWE guy, WWE guy, WWE guy. They have established guys like Samoa Joe and Christopher Daniels, but they don't seem to care because they came from sweatbox, but we'll wine and dine these WWE guys because we don't want them going back.
I've just checked the title history myself and it's really not as bad as you're making it out to be.

Just under half of the guys are former WWE Talent. You also have Sting who is a former WCW guy and the rest are TNA guys.

If you want, you can even take Bully Ray out of the "WWE Pile" and place him with the TNA guys, as before heading to TNA, you couldn't really imagine him being a world champion and even though I don't watch TNA, I have heard that Bully Ray in TNA has been nothing but top notch. Before heading to TNA, all the WWE guys that would later become TNA Champion were established main eventers but Bully Ray wasn't as such. From what I hear and read, he is now.

You also have to remember that one of the best title runs (again, from what I've heard) was Bobby Roode's, a TNA guy. He was champion for almost a year and then he lost it to Austin Aries, another TNA guy.

So I personally wouldn't say that they don't care about them.
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:18 AM   #11
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Well, the NWA title, which was under TNA's care from 2002-2007, you had Jarrett and Shamrock, which I will let go because you want a few name guys to launch your company, but Raven, Rhyno and Christian held the belt after 2005.

I would like to see a Christopher Daniels TNA title reign though.
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I've just checked the title history myself and it's really not as bad as you're making it out to be.

Just under half of the guys are former WWE Talent. You also have Sting who is a former WCW guy and the rest are TNA guys.

If you want, you can even take Bully Ray out of the "WWE Pile" and place him with the TNA guys, as before heading to TNA, you couldn't really imagine him being a world champion and even though I don't watch TNA, I have heard that Bully Ray in TNA has been nothing but top notch. Before heading to TNA, all the WWE guys that would later become TNA Champion were established main eventers but Bully Ray wasn't as such. From what I hear and read, he is now.

You also have to remember that one of the best title runs (again, from what I've heard) was Bobby Roode's, a TNA guy. He was champion for almost a year and then he lost it to Austin Aries, another TNA guy.

So I personally wouldn't say that they don't care about them.
I know Kurt Angle made his name in the WWE (and the Olympics) but I don't see why he can't be considered a TNA guy at this point. He's been with them since late 2006, and has devoted a lot of his time to this company and put on numerous classics with them. Sting is another one that could easily be considered a TNA guy at this point since WCW hasn't even been around for the last dozen years. Plus, those two are wrestling legends, what's wrong with them holding your top prize? The only "WWE guy" that I'd have a legit gripe about for holding that belt is Mick Foley, and that's only because of how old he was at that point. But again, he's a wrestling legend, it's not that bad. If Hulk Hogan can win the WWE Undisputed title in 2002, why can't these guys carry the TNA strap on?
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If you want, you can even take Bully Ray out of the "WWE Pile" and place him with the TNA guys, as before heading to TNA, you couldn't really imagine him being a world champion and even though I don't watch TNA, I have heard that Bully Ray in TNA has been nothing but top notch. Before heading to TNA, all the WWE guys that would later become TNA Champion were established main eventers but Bully Ray wasn't as such. From what I hear and read, he is now.
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Well, the NWA title, which was under TNA's care from 2002-2007, you had Jarrett and Shamrock, which I will let go because you want a few name guys to launch your company, but Raven, Rhyno and Christian held the belt after 2005.
... none of which were "main event WWE guys", much to Cool King's nearly unreadable point. Hell, Christian was pretty much in the positon Bully Ray is now: he had a lot of detractors that didn't buy him as a main event player in WWE.

The argument could be made for guys like Angle, Jeff Hardy run, but someone like Raven, for example, had more cred on him from his ECW days than anything he ever did in WWE or WCW combined. Nearly the same could be said for Rhino... he was a monster, but a "small" monster.

Also, Jarrett shouldn't count as a WWE guy either. It was kinda his company. Also, he was main event in WCW. Most he did in WWE was lip sync to Road Dogg singing, mysogonistically berate Deborah, and trade the Blue Blazer mask with Owen a few times.
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that video is a bitch to find now, it got taken down everywhere
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Old 10-20-2013, 05:10 AM   #28
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Austin Aries is yet another TNA wrestler who does music on the side, but he doesn't play this up in the fed like Jeff Hardy and Mickie James do. Maybe Aries wants to keep his music and wrestling separate to minimize the professional stigma (against his background) if he wants to do music entirely when TNA's gone or has released him.
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What kind of music does Aries do?
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If his music is anything like his TNA run then I'd guess whatever kind of music CM Punk does.
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Old 10-21-2013, 03:43 AM   #31
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Aries sang in an alt-rock cover band called Zeno's Revenge, but he also tended bar.
http://blogs.poughkeepsiejournal.com...und-for-glory/

I've not seen or heard any connection to his current musical projects.
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I feel really sad for the wrestlers, tbh.


this was in regards to the picture above.
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promotions have done that forever so it looks like there's alot more in the crowd than there is.
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there was a smackdown i went to a couple years ago that had very few people on the same side as the main camera too.
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thanks for getting THIS song in my head
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there was a smackdown i went to a couple years ago that had very few people on the same side as the main camera too.
Bound for Glory is the TNA equivalent to Wrestlemania.....A bit different than a Smackdown taping, IMHO.
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yeah, but it's tna, so their wrestlemania should be about the same as a generic wwe tv show
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yeah, but it's tna, so their wrestlemania should be about the same as a generic wwe tv show
This just supports my claim that it is sad for the wrestlers.
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