The **OFFICIAL** 2013 Hell In A Cell Thread - If Cena Wins owenbrown Riots.

[#1-norm-fan]

If Sandow is gonna cash in tonight, all this talk about it/shots of Sandow in the back is silly. I'm guessing something happens to prevent it.

[el bobbo]

This is a decent fucking match.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Live Long and Prosper rope break.

[#1-norm-fan]

Cena breaking up his own pin attempt. lol

[Poit]

So, Cena was pinning Del Rio, and he picked him up at 2.

What?

[Cool King]

Cole mic sounds busted.

[Fox]

Really?

[slik]

Come on Sandow

[#1-norm-fan]

Aaaaaaand the WHC is officially relevant again.

[Savio]

fuck off cena

[Poit]

That seemed a bit quick.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He's at 14 now? This fucking guy has to be stopped.

[DrCrawford]

at least the belt will have meaning now

I really hate rematch clauses

[owenbrown]

FFS Cena is gonna break Ric Flair's "official" 16-time record isn't he?

[owenbrown]

CASH IN DAMN IT

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Flair is really like 22 time but WWE says 16.

[Fox]

Hopefully Cena keeps it and this leads to a unification at WrestleMania XXX.

[owenbrown]

MOTHERFUCKER

[owenbrown]

Fuck you WWE

[Cool King]

Fuck yeah, Kaitlyn!

Again!

[Razzamajazz]

kaitlyn side boob

[Emperor Smeat]

So no cash in then.

[Theo Dious]

Well that was kind of underwhelming.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Now that Cena is gone....

THE CHAMP IS HERE!

[Shisen Kopf]

Here comes the race riot. Godspeed owenbrown

[Cool King]

I don't mean to sound like a perv, but is Kaitlyn not wearing a bra?

[Shadrick]

Fuck you WWE

*razor ramon stomps*

[Theo Dious]

Hopefully Cena keeps it and this leads to a unification at WrestleMania XXX.

For crapping out loud... people shut the fuck up about this.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I hope Brie makes a better sandwich than a wrestling match. It might be close I heard she's vegan.

[XL]

Was hoping that Sandow was gonna run Cena over with a car when he was stood at the top of the ramp. Would have been a "moment".

[Shadrick]

I don't mean to sound like a perv, but is Kaitlyn not wearing a bra?

This doesn't not sound pervy. I need screen caps.

[Cool King]

I hope Brie makes a better sandwich than a wrestling match. It might be close I heard she's vegan.

Well, judging by your posts aimed at this match, it looks like one of us is going to be disappointed when it's over.

[Cool King]

Was hoping that Sandow was gonna run Cena over with a car when he was stood at the top of the ramp. Would have been a "moment".

Sounds like a storyline you could make on WWE '12/'13.

[slik]

Commentary discussing Katherine McPhee and a low rated tv show on NBC...

[Theo Dious]

Ok now they're making Harry Potter references.

[Emperor Smeat]

I don't mean to sound like a perv, but is Kaitlyn not wearing a bra?

Nope.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXn2FGdCMAEbLXT.jpg

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

AJ doing a Daniel Bryan move to Brie, I love it!

[#1-norm-fan]

For crapping out loud... people shut the fuck up about this.

Oh, does it upset you greatly when someone mentions the possibility of a title unification? Please let us all know what other trivial wrestling subjects make your blood boil so we can bring them up non-stop.

[owenbrown]

This doesn't not sound pervy. I need screen caps.

Nope.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXn2FGdCMAEbLXT.jpg

WWE Presents: The Sideboob Hour ?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Fitting a Bella has a Crab as a move.

[XL]

Damn! Tamina hit that apron full on.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

No Riot! Phew.

[Theo Dious]

Oh, does it upset you greatly when someone mentions the possibility of a title unification? Please let us all know what other trivial wrestling subjects make your blood boil so we can bring them up non-stop.

How about you be quiet while the big people are talking.

[Razzamajazz]

video games make you successful in life

[Cool King]

Nope.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXn2FGdCMAEbLXT.jpg

:yes::y:

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I guess playing 2k14 is just as good as fighting for the tag team titles.

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. Well that just happened.

[Theo Dious]

WTF

[slik]

Damn! Tamina hit that apron full on.

Yeah I was worried she'd be busted open

[#1-norm-fan]

How about you be quiet while the big people are talking.

When the titles are unified, who do you think should be the man to unify them?

I choose Bray Wyatt.

[slik]

I want Backlund to manage PTP

[slik]

http://i.imgur.com/mI0FfgA.gif

[XL]

Nicky Fives and Joesgonnakillyou are 100% on tipsters so far.

[Cool King]

Nope.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXn2FGdCMAEbLXT.jpg

That's got me thinking though, who would take a picture of a woman's back because she was not wearing a bra?

[Cool King]

HBShizzle!

[owenbrown]

Having your top championship vacated for 6 weeks.... yeah that is really BEST FOR BUSINESS :roll:

[Theo Dious]

I'd really love to see Bryan win by an exceedingly slooooooooooooooooow count.

[Cool King]

Nicky Fives and Joesgonnakillyou are 100% on tipsters so far.

I call shenanigans. :shifty:

[Mongo Lloyd]

Orton is a fag

[XL]

I call shenanigans. :shifty:
Least it's not Flash Funk.

[#1-norm-fan]

Having your top championship vacated for 6 weeks.... yeah that is really BEST FOR BUSINESS :roll:

I don't know. It's kinda felt like the the best option without Cena available. lol

I like both these guys but I haven't really felt like either one is gonna do much more than bring down the prestige of the title.

[Razzamajazz]

why didnt the cell lower before they came out

[slik]

HHH

hmmmm

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

THE World Wrestling Entertainment? JBL needs a grammar lesson. Where's CM Punk?

[Poit]

why didnt the cell lower before they came out

I was wondering the same thing.

[slik]

I like that the cell has it's own lowering music

[Theo Dious]

So Big Show will knock HHH out to prevent him interfering in the finish?

[#1-norm-fan]

Half past the hour. Seems like a late start for the main event.

[Cool King]

Least it's not Flash Funk.

Good point.

[Cool King]

why didnt the cell lower before they came out

I was wondering the same thing.

I thought that it was so that Bryan could do his Yes! thing around the ring, but I was wrong.

[slik]

Bryan is fantastic in this so far

[Cool King]

The good 'ol classic powerbomb.

[DrCrawford]

WHY DO THEY NEED TO ZOOM IN FOR EVERY IMPACT. IT DOESNT MAKE IT SEEM POWERFUL IT MAKES IT CORNY

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I don't trust HBK as the ref in a match between &quot;The Goat&quot; and &quot;The Viper&quot; because...hunting. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23HellInACell&amp;src=hash">#HellInACell</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE">@WWE</a></p>&mdash; Corey Graves (@WWEGraves) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEGraves/statuses/394650744944852992">October 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[Razzamajazz]

ecw chant lol

[Emperor Smeat]

why are there soo many chairs underneath the ring to begin with

[slik]

Chair a pa looza

[Poit]

What the hell?

[owenbrown]

do I hear an ECW chant?

[#1-norm-fan]

lol. I don't think I've ever seen a chair shot blocked via an eye poke.

[Theo Dious]

Jesus... wtf

[Poit]

Ick.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Who will be the one to yell STUPID STUPID STUPID when Orton botches?

[Theo Dious]

Ok so Bryan's feet kinda touched a couple chairs...

[#1-norm-fan]

I have a feeling this ends with a simple Bryan victory after that and the drama with HBK starts tomorrow night.

[owenbrown]

Triple H gonna have a coronary?

[DrCrawford]

Shawn has iron man match with bret: is fine, gets bumped wearing a ref shirt: down for the count

[Poit]

I feel like a ref bump shouldn't be as exaggerated with someone like Shawn Michaels.

[#1-norm-fan]

Hmm. Maybe not...

[Razzamajazz]

shitty knee
shitty sweet chin music

[slik]

RAGE

RAGE

RAGE

[owenbrown]

well fuck

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

HBK you are a piece of shit.

[Poit]

Well then.

[DrCrawford]

add shitty end to that post

[Cool King]

Well, I can't say I was expecting that.

[Poit]

OK, seriously, the crowd is silent.

[owenbrown]

Afterlife is gonna go fucking insane on the podcast this week

[Shisen Kopf]

Well that sucked

[Theo Dious]

Ugh. Ass.

[Poit]

OK, seriously, the crowd is silent.

I'm pointing this out now, because you know it's going to be brought up during the podcast.

[owenbrown]

I hope for a 0.0 rating on Raw tomorrow

[#1-norm-fan]

Well there you go.

[Razzamajazz]

hbk vs bryan at wrestlemania

[XL]

Shawn has iron man match with bret: is fine, gets bumped wearing a ref shirt: down for the count

Had the exact same thought.

[Volare]

Ya knee'd my friend so I had to kick you in the face.

[KyleEmmott]

woah.

[#1-norm-fan]

Well that sucked

lol. Not a good sign when Shisen doesn't even feel like making a joke.

[Savio]

Bryan had to go over at this PPV, They keep "nWoing" this storyline.

[Cool King]

OK, seriously, the crowd is silent.

Yeah, after what happened, you'd expect the crowd to give at least some kind of reaction.

Michaels just hit Bryan with Sweet Chin Music, costing him the WWE Championship. That's a big deal, but no, Miami doesn't give a shit.

[Emperor Smeat]

Whole setup to that ending was a bit weird and yet hilarious because Hunter wouldn't stop yelling out "Shawn"

[James Steele]

We'll finally get HHH/Bryan or maybe a build to HBK/Bryan. Both of which would be amazing. The chase is always a million times more interesting than the reign.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Not surprised HBK turned heel. He's always been an asshole. A good christian my ass.

[James Steele]

Triple H knows HBK's dirty little secret...

...his hunting licenses are expired.

[Cool King]

Well, for me, Match of the Night easily goes to the first match of the night, Cody Rhodes & Goldust vs The Usos vs Rollins & Reigns.

[Shadrick]

I don't think it was a heel turn, though. He looked distraught, like he hated doing that.

[Savio]

The chase is always a million times more interesting than the reign.
Eventually people stop caring.

[slik]

Afterlife is gonna go fucking insane on the podcast this week

As well he should.

I took a 'wait and see' approach with Bryan's push. SummerSlam was 4 ppvs ago.

It's time to stop screwing it up.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

OK, seriously, the crowd is silent.

They got into the match at the end.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I'm pointing this out now, because you know it's going to be brought up during the podcast.

No shit. A group of TNA marks shitting on a WWE PPV? Shocking.

[owenbrown]

let the era of blandness continue

[#1-norm-fan]

All of the supporting characters have just been booked so much better than Orton and Bryan in this feud. It's weird.

[Shadrick]

I gotta agree with fan.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

By "other than Orton and Bryan" you really just mean Orton right? DB has been fine. I agree for the most part though but when the other pieces are veterans like Triple H, Big Show, Golddust, Stephanie McMahon how can you compete?

[Cool King]

Well, I liked the PPV. I enjoyed it and that's all that matters really.

It was good. Not great, but good. :y:

[slik]

All of the supporting characters have just been booked so much better than Orton and Bryan in this feud. It's weird.

Agreed.

Triple H, Big Show and Stephanie all look pretty strong.

[Nark Order]

LET'S JUST SEE WHERE THEY GO WITH THIS, GUYS!!!!!!!!1111ONE

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I love how they have kept Cena and Punk as far away from the Corporation story as possible. I hope this trend continues for a long time to come. They will simply clog the face side and then it would be impossible for Daniel Bryan to seem like the top guy with them in it.

[Poit]

They got into the match at the end.

I wasn't talking about the end of the match. I was talking about after the match, evident by my use of the present tense in a post made after the match.

No shit. A group of TNA marks shitting on a WWE PPV? Shocking.

Well, apparently I'm a TNA mark simply for liking TNA, despite liking WWE more.

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I loved this whole storyline early on but now it's just boring. Here's hoping they shift focus for Survivor Series.</font>

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I wasn't talking about the end of the match. I was talking about after the match, evident by my use of the present tense in a post made after the match.



Well, apparently I'm a TNA mark simply for liking TNA, despite liking WWE more.

I didn't mean you specifically but you have to admit you have two or three marks who drive the podcast to "yay tna is great!"

[James Steele]

I don't see what the problem is. They want us to despise Randy Orton and Triple H. They have consistently found ways to screw the fan favorite out of "his moment in the sun". Daniel Bryan is still over as fuck and probably going to get a huge Survivor Series match. He'll then be denied another title match by "The Authority" only to get the classic formula of over coming the odds at the Royal Rumble and going on to WrestleMania to finally get his crowning achievement.

"We want long term booking...until we don't get what we want fast enough."

[Crazy Nick]

That was a pretty good PPV overall. I really enjoyed it, from top to bottom it was very solid, way better than the last couple of PPVs. I hated seeing HBK superkick Bryan though, I was like seriously, WTF?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I was expecting the abeyance to continue until Survivor Series for a Deadly Games tournament. With all of people getting pushed around the Corporation angle it would have been a great match up. Like WWFan said the minor characters in this feud are being pushed great.

[Razzamajazz]

when was the last ppv where there wasn't complaining?

[Nark Order]

Jabba and Afterlife are really the only two TNA fanatics really but none of us hate TNA, nor should we. It's as solid wrestling program. People get really odd about TNA and tend to get swept up in some weird tard storm of "lol TNA" because it is fashionable to do so, but it really isn't a bad program.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

when was the last ppv where there wasn't complaining?

Nobody complained about Bound for Glory but then again nobody gave a shit about it either.

Complaining means people care.

[Cool King]

<font color=goldenrod>I loved this whole storyline early on but now it's just boring. Here's hoping they shift focus for Survivor Series.</font>

Yeah, it's running a bit thin now. :-\

I'm sure at Survivor Series we'll see Bryan/Big Show/Rhodes & Goldust vs Orton & The Shield in a traditional Survivor Series Match or something like that.

[James Steele]

The Tables, Ladders, & Podcast does have some fucked up logic. Having Hulk Hogan at the center of every major storyline for 2 years is fine because he doesn't actually wrestle, but still is made to look strong. Triple H being an on-air authority figure is horrible because we still can't stop our vaginas from bleeding about 2003.

[Shadrick]

I don't see what the problem is. They want us to despise Randy Orton and Triple H. They have consistently found ways to screw the fan favorite out of "his moment in the sun". Daniel Bryan is still over as fuck and probably going to get a huge Survivor Series match. He'll then be denied another title match by "The Authority" only to get the classic formula of over coming the odds at the Royal Rumble and going on to WrestleMania to finally get his crowning achievement.

"We want long term booking...until we don't get what we want fast enough."

I get what you're saying, but the way they've been booking it, in my opinion, in the long term almost makes me not care about it anymore.

Long-term booking is tricky, obviously, but I would have loved more scenarios where Bryan seemed to have some type of upperhand on the authority. It just doesn't feel that way.

[Poit]

I didn't mean you specifically but you have to admit you have two or three marks who drive the podcast to "yay tna is great!"

It is quite possible to like both WWE and TNA, and still point out their flaws. If you'd like to level some actual criticism, beyond just calling us a group of marks, then by all means, do so.

[Shisen Kopf]

Lol TNA. Who says that?!

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Damn it doesn't have annotations. I can't hear what he is saying, but annotations would be hilarious for it.

[Nark Order]

I don't see what the problem is. They want us to despise Randy Orton and Triple H. They have consistently found ways to screw the fan favorite out of "his moment in the sun". Daniel Bryan is still over as fuck and probably going to get a huge Survivor Series match. He'll then be denied another title match by "The Authority" only to get the classic formula of over coming the odds at the Royal Rumble and going on to WrestleMania to finally get his crowning achievement.

"We want long term booking...until we don't get what we want fast enough."

It's just so boring at this point and there is no payoff. People are going to start tuning out. A Shawn Michaels heel turn got almost no reaction. That might tell you something. We have to suffer through more Orton and Triple H on at every waking moment. Enough is enough. We've been given so much crap the past couple of months, if there's no payoff then we're just sitting around in boredom and self pity for no reason. By the time the payoff comes, everyone isn't going to care.

[James Steele]

I'm still interested because I have no clue where the HBK thing is going, and I want to see where it goes. It adds another emotional layer to the whole thing. Bryan/Orton isn't the "final destination" of this whole thing. I believe that Triple H putting over Daniel Bryan will be the marquee moment that cements Daniel Bryan. Orton is just the pawn right now. They could easily have Orton fuck up at Survivor Series and lose favor with "The Authority".

[#1-norm-fan]

This storyline has me wanting to see Big Show come out of it as champion as opposed to Bryan.

[#1-norm-fan]

Not really a bad thing. I just like Show more as a "main player" and he's been booked really fucking well.

[Nark Order]

The Tables, Ladders, & Podcast does have some fucked up logic. Having Hulk Hogan at the center of every major storyline for 2 years is fine because he doesn't actually wrestle, but still is made to look strong. Triple H being an on-air authority figure is horrible because we still can't stop our vaginas from bleeding about 2003.

I've rallied against Hogan being on television from the beginning. Ive always thought it was awful. But Triple H is seriously so awful right now. It's just too much.. Him. It's just too much. I mean he can be there, but i mean... Jesus. It's too much. He isn't a very likable guy to begin with and he's just there.al ways. Alwaysc cutting the same promos with the same voice. It's too much. It's just too much.

[Shisen Kopf]

Tatanka's heel turn got more reaction than HBK's. WWE needs to do something. The current product is pretty lame.

[James Steele]

It's just so boring at this point and there is no payoff. People are going to start tuning out. A Shawn Michaels heel turn got almost no reaction. That might tell you something. We have to suffer through more Orton and Triple H on at every waking moment. Enough is enough. We've been given so much crap the past couple of months, if there's no payoff then we're just sitting around in boredom and self pity for no reason. By the time the payoff comes, everyone isn't going to care.

HBK didn't necessarily turn heel. That is what is interesting. Was it all a big plan to screw Daniel Bryan or did HBK just react to DB kneeing HHH in the face? HBK didn't turn heel after helping HHH almost end The Streak in HIAC. HBK could superkick a baby with a ice skate on and still wouldn't be a true heel.

[Nark Order]

I'm still interested because I have no clue where the HBK thing is going, and I want to see where it goes. It adds another emotional layer to the whole thing. Bryan/Orton isn't the "final destination" of this whole thing. I believe that Triple H putting over Daniel Bryan will be the marquee moment that cements Daniel Bryan. Orton is just the pawn right now. They could easily have Orton fuck up at Survivor Series and lose favor with "The Authority".

I do not want to see Triple H versus Daniel Bryan in the slightest. Like not even a little bit.

[James Steele]

I've rallied against Hogan being on television from the beginning. Ive always thought it was awful. But Triple H is seriously so awful right now. It's just too much.. Him. It's just too much. I mean he can be there, but i mean... Jesus. It's too much. He isn't a very likable guy to begin with and he's just there.al ways. Alwaysc cutting the same promos with the same voice. It's too much. It's just too much.

Stop it. Seriously. Any other 2003-esque cliches you wanna throw out there? I mean, why in the hell would a heel authority figure be an overbearing annoying prick all the time on TV?

[Cool King]

This storyline has me wanting to see Big Show come out of it as champion as opposed to Bryan.

Not really a bad thing. I just like Show more as a "main player" and he's been booked really fucking well.

Yeah, seeing Big Show as WWE Champion would be pretty good. :y:

[James Steele]

I do not want to see Triple H versus Daniel Bryan in the slightest. Like not even a little bit.

Great. Too bad the WWE Universe will be red hot tomorrow for RAW while you and the TLP crew shed gallons of crocodile tears waiting for another awe-inspiring Dixie Carter heel promo.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I do not want to see Triple H versus Daniel Bryan in the slightest. Like not even a little bit.

Why in the hell not? Triple H is the ultimate squash the little guy/internet guy. It's a great dynamic and would be a hell of a match.

[Nark Order]

I didn't say he is an unlikable character. He's kind of just an unlikable guy. Listen. He can stay. But it's too much. It makes me not want to watch the show. It is just too much him.

[Shisen Kopf]

They should bring back Kevin Nash

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Great. Too bad the WWE Universe will be red hot tomorrow for RAW while you and the TLP crew shed gallons of crocodile tears waiting for another awe-inspiring Dixie Carter heel promo.

Dixie turns heel right after Stephanie does? Coincidence?

[Vastardikai]

I just want to point out a few things:

1. After spending the better part of 10 years having Cena and Orton as two of the top guys, the top 2 titles are held by... Cena and Orton.

2. Two things are likely at this point: Nirvana will get into the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame first Ballot and the bad PPV numbers, if they end up being bad, will be blamed on Bryan.

3. Bob Backlund wouldn't have been fazed by Hunter's Shenanigans.

[James Steele]

Crowd reactions are important, but you can't take them as if they match the opinions of the rest of the national/international wrestling audience. Sid Vicious got cheered against Shawn Michaels once, TNA fans think Jeff Jarrett is an icon, and some WWE crowds love R-Truth more than life itself.

[James Steele]

I just want to point out a few things:

1. After spending the better part of 10 years having Cena and Orton as two of the top guys, the top 2 titles are held by... Cena and Orton.

2. Two things are likely at this point: Nirvana will get into the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame first Ballot and the bad PPV numbers, if they end up being bad, will be blamed on Bryan.

3. Bob Backlund wouldn't have been fazed by Hunter's Shenanigans.

10 years ago, the belts were held by Goldberg and Brock Lesnar. Brock Lesnar is still a huge draw and Goldberg's name is chanted weekly. Main eventers and top guys are such because they have staying power. Cena has no equal in the WWE currently (and it isn't WWE's fault) and Orton, despite claims to the contrary, has always been over as fuck and is talented. The problems with Orton (and why he didn't hold the title for years after his first title win) was because of his own laziness and stupidity.

Like it or not, Cena is on that short list of guys who have almost no peers in the business. We got spoiled in the late 90s and early 2000s and just assume WWE can create a mainstream megastar at a whim. It is asinine to believe that. Daniel Bryan is talented and over as fuck. Daniel Bryan will never be a Hogan/Austin/Rock/Cena. They are building him up over a long time and he will be on the level of a Piper/Dusty/Nash/Michaels/HHH/Angle. I love Angle, but he was never on the same level as a Rock/Austin/Hogan despite being better than all of them combined at every aspect of pro wrestling.

As such, I love this storyline because WWE has created (Daniel Bryan, Rhodes) and reinvigorated (Big Show, Orton) superstars with this storyline. You all want this to end with Daniel Bryan being the biggest thing of all time. That isn't going to happen. You are missing the forest for the trees, not enjoying the scenery of the road trip for the radio station being listened too. This is the best in-depth storyline WWE has done in ages. You are not enjoying it because you are finding every little thing to nitpick about instead of just enjoying it for what it is. This isn't some revolution in pro wrestling, it is just another storyline but it is a great one that is helping bring new stars to the forefront and old ones a breath of fresh air.

[Shadrick]

HBK didn't necessarily turn heel. That is what is interesting. Was it all a big plan to screw Daniel Bryan or did HBK just react to DB kneeing HHH in the face? HBK didn't turn heel after helping HHH almost end The Streak in HIAC. HBK could superkick a baby with a ice skate on and still wouldn't be a true heel.

I don't think it was a heel turn either, and while it adds a small level of depth (being that HBK was literally JUST introduced into this storyline), it's not enough for me to personally keep optimism in terms of a shift of how Bryan has looked. I get the underdog thing, just doesn't seem all that interesting anymore. Truthfully, I didn't expect the payoff to come at HIAC, but still.

[Tazz Dan]

C'mon guys. HHH reversed the decision at one of the PPV's for a fast count, surely ref interference wil garner the same call. HAVE FAITH......

[Nark Order]

The thing with long term angles is that there has to be sufficient give and take. So far the Corporation has pretty much dominated in every area that matters. When Bryan wins, it isn't for the belt so it essentially doesn't really have an impact. One party can't just dominate everything. It makes it stale and boring. And when they have gotten comeuppance, it has been at the hands of Big Show and not Bryan. They are not making you care about the chase really at all. The goldust/Rhodes storyline has been done so well because they are actual good guys that you care about that axtually got their comeuppance for being dicked around for so long and it felt so good to see it happen because you were invested. Im not invested in Bryan/Orton right now. It's just really exhausting to watch and keep track of and I know I have to sit through more Triple H promos. It's just so taxing.

[Emperor Smeat]

<font color=goldenrod>I loved this whole storyline early on but now it's just boring. Here's hoping they shift focus for Survivor Series.</font>

Agree mainly because #1-wwf-fan is correct about the supporting players have been better booked than Orton and Bryan who should be the real stars of this feud.

Looking back, Orton should have just kept the belt since the cash in and Bryan chasing till tonight or tonight being the 2nd screwjob moment since Summerslam instead of the 4th time.

[James Steele]

Maybe Triple H should open every promo with "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!?!?!". That would fix everything.

[James Steele]

The thing with long term angles is that there has to be sufficient give and take. So far the Corporation has pretty much dominated in every area that matters. When Bryan wins, it isn't for the belt so it essentially doesn't really have an impact. One party can't just dominate everything. It makes it stale and boring. And when they have gotten comeuppance, it has been at the hands of Big Show and not Bryan. They are not making you care about the chase really at all. The goldust/Rhodes storyline has been done so well because they are actual good guys that you care about that axtually got their comeuppance for being dicked around for so long and it felt so good to see it happen because you were invested. Im not invested in Bryan/Orton right now. It's just really exhausting to watch and keep track of and I know I have to sit through more Triple H promos. It's just so taxing.

...and you accuse me of using hyperbole and presenting opinion as fact?

[Nark Order]

What was exaggerated, exactly?

[James Steele]

Daniel Bryan is the marquee name in the storyline, once he gets his final comeuppance - the storyline is over. The side players are there to give us the realization that it can be done. Of course, Triple H is going to put far more effort into keeping the WWE Title on who he wants it on rather than the tag titles.

[James Steele]

What was exaggerated, exactly?

"Daniel Bryan hasn't gotten any revenge." "It is exhausting to watch." "There has been insufficient give and take."

[scatterbrain28]

The Bryan vs. Orton build to Hell in the Cell was a lose/lose for the WWE. If Bryan won, Bryan "defied the odds" and it wouldn't be a shock. If Orton won, HHH gets more X-Pac heat no matter how he got the victory.

[James Steele]

You make it sound like WWE has you strapped to a gurney watching this stuff. If it was truly that painful of an experience, you wouldn't watch and discuss it regularly. You and the podcast guys thrive on this Chicken Little mentality toward wrestling. If things don't go exactly how you think it should, it is utter shit and a horrible and painful television experience than is almost as painful as genital mutilation via electric eel-piranha hybrid creature.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

The Bryan vs. Orton build to Hell in the Cell was a lose/lose for the WWE. If Bryan won, Bryan "defied the odds" and it wouldn't be a shock. If Orton won, HHH gets more X-Pac heat no matter how he got the victory.

HHH getting xpac heat is good. He was one of the most beloved faces of the last years when he was a face.

[Nark Order]

No. It isn't. Austin and Rock traded the title several times. Many feuds have the title traded several times. It keeps interest. This is just too much for too long. I'm not even interested anymore and I love Daniel Bryan. They've just done a poor job with it. Just really disappointed is all. Though it was going to be a great angle.

[Poit]

"Daniel Bryan hasn't gotten any revenge." "It is exhausting to watch." "There has been insufficient give and take."

The first and third quotes have not appeared in the last three pages.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

No. It isn't. Austin and Rock traded the title several times. Many feuds have the title traded several times. It keeps interest. This is just too much for too long. I'm not even interested anymore and I love Daniel Bryan. They've just done a poor job with it. Just really disappointed is all. Though it was going to be a great angle.

You were bitching about it from the first day. I was too, but I'm still interested.

[James Steele]

I'm just saying, if y'all hate the WWE product as much as you all claim to. Then you should not cover it in the podcast. "The WWE product is horrible and we no longer watch it as a result. We will now cover the hottest brand in all of sports entertainment - TNA Wrestling with its top heel Dixie Carter."

[Nark Order]

"Daniel Bryan hasn't gotten any revenge." "It is exhausting to watch." "There has been insufficient give and take."

If it isn't for the title, it doesn't matter. It just doesn't. And it is very exhausting to watch. I mean, there wasn't a world champion for over a month.

[Poit]

You make it sound like WWE has you strapped to a gurney watching this stuff. If it was truly that painful of an experience, you wouldn't watch and discuss it regularly. You and the podcast guys thrive on this Chicken Little mentality toward wrestling. If things don't go exactly how you think it should, it is utter shit and a horrible and painful television experience than is almost as painful as genital mutilation via electric eel-piranha hybrid creature.

There's only one person on the podcast who exaggerates to that extend, and it isn't Narc.

[James Steele]

The first and third quotes have not appeared in the last three pages.

The thing with long term angles is that there has to be sufficient give and take. So far the Corporation has pretty much dominated in every area that matters. When Bryan wins, it isn't for the belt so it essentially doesn't really have an impact. One party can't just dominate everything. It makes it stale and boring. And when they have gotten comeuppance, it has been at the hands of Big Show and not Bryan. They are not making you care about the chase really at all. The goldust/Rhodes storyline has been done so well because they are actual good guys that you care about that axtually got their comeuppance for being dicked around for so long and it felt so good to see it happen because you were invested. Im not invested in Bryan/Orton right now. It's just really exhausting to watch and keep track of and I know I have to sit through more Triple H promos. It's just so taxing.

[Poit]

I'm just saying, if y'all hate the WWE product as much as you all claim to. Then you should not cover it in the podcast. "The WWE product is horrible and we no longer watch it as a result. We will now cover the hottest brand in all of sports entertainment - TNA Wrestling with its top heel Dixie Carter."

We don't all claim to hate it.

Seriously, you & STD need to learn how to use more precise words.

[James Steele]

If it isn't for the title, it doesn't matter. It just doesn't. And it is very exhausting to watch. I mean, there wasn't a world champion for over a month.

You would have bitched if they just put the strap back on Orton. You only would have been happy if they kept the belt on Bryan and blew their wad early in the storyline. Again, "I'll give it a chance until it doesn't go the way I think it should and then I'll act like watching RAW is equitable to getting raped by a traffic cone made of barbed wire."

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Question: I was listening to the podcast a few days ago and somebody went on a tirade on how "Dean Ambrose" isn't a meanacing name. I don't disagree but it seems like a stupid thing to bitch about unless you just are looking for stuff to bitch about. Who was that?

[James Steele]

We don't all claim to hate it.

Seriously, you & STD need to learn how to use more precise words.

You and Heisenberg are the only fair reviewers on the show. The rest are TNA apologists out for the blood of the McMahon family like they killed your children right in front of you.

[James Steele]

Question: I was listening to the podcast a few days ago and somebody went on a tirade on how "Dean Ambrose" isn't a meanacing name. I don't disagree but it seems like a stupid thing to bitch about unless you just are looking for stuff to bitch about. Who was that?

Probably Afterlife. He is like me in that he is very passionate in his arguments. Unlike me however, he has no discernible taste for quality professional wrestling.

[Nark Order]

I'm just saying, if y'all hate the WWE product as much as you all claim to. Then you should not cover it in the podcast. "The WWE product is horrible and we no longer watch it as a result. We will now cover the hottest brand in all of sports entertainment - TNA Wrestling with its top heel Dixie Carter."

Who claims to hate WWE? Afterlife has come the closest but even he doesn't hate WWE. He thinks TNA is better, but he likes WWE. I fucking love WWE but I'm going to say when they fuck up. And they majorly fucked up a potentially incredible angle and now nobody really cares. You saw the Michaels crowd reaction. It's just stale. That's all. It can be recovered, but they definitely did not do this angle justice.

Involving Triple H and Stephanie was just a pretty bad idea in the first place, IMO. They had such a good thing with Bryan and Orton and this didn't need to happen. Authority figure angles are really stale and if it were up to me, Id abolish them forever in every capacity. Austin/McMcmahon will never be recreated. Never. Not ever. Never. Professional wrestling existed before the authority role existed. They use it as a crutch for everything. Frustrating.

[Poit]

[quoting Narc]

Ah, I assumed that since you were using quotation marks, you were actually quoting him, not simply paraphasing. My apologies for assuming you were using proper English.

Regardless, the only part of Narc's actual words that exaggerate thigns is the part about the Authority pretty much dominating everything. The Authority has indeed been shown up in the tag division. The part about Big Show/Bryan is true, and the part about exhaustion is clearly opinion, but it's not being stated as fact, as you claimed.

[James Steele]

Who claims to hate WWE? Afterlife has come the closest but even he doesn't hate WWE. He thinks TNA is better, but he likes WWE. I fucking love WWE but I'm going to say when they fuck up. And they majorly fucked up a potentially incredible angle and now nobody really cares. You saw the Michaels crowd reaction. It's just stale. That's all. It can be recovered, but they definitely did not do this angle justice.

Involving Triple H and Stephanie was just a pretty bad idea in the first place, IMO. They had such a good thing with Bryan and Orton and this didn't need to happen. Authority figure angles are really stale and if it were up to me, Id abolish them forever in every capacity. Austin/McMcmahon will never be recreated. Never. Not ever. Never. Professional wrestling existed before the authority role existed. They use it as a crutch for everything. Frustrating.

Which is why Dixie and AJ ripping off Vince/Punk from a couple of years ago is innovate and riveting television?

[James Steele]

Seriously, Triple H should open every promo with "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!?!" and then all these screwjob finishes would be ok.

[Lock Jaw]

I love how confrontational everybody gets after a PPV.

[Lock Jaw]

And by "love", I mean I hate it. Like watching mom and dad fight. :'(

[Lock Jaw]

Gonna hide under my bed until it is over.

[Poit]

Which is why Dixie and AJ ripping off Vince/Punk from a couple of years ago is innovate and riveting television?

Please point out where we claimed it was innovative and riveting.

[Nark Order]

Ah, I assumed that since you were using quotation marks, you were actually quoting him, not simply paraphasing. My apologies for assuming you were using proper English.

Regardless, the only part of Narc's actual words that exaggerate thigns is the part about the Authority pretty much dominating everything. The Authority has indeed been shown up in the tag division. The part about Big Show/Bryan is true, and the part about exhaustion is clearly opinion, but it's not being stated as fact, as you claimed.

I meant in regards to Bryan only with the give and take stuff. If the title isn't traded, there isn't sufficient give and take to me. It's just them dominating the situation. Becomes stale.

[James Steele]

Even better, Kofi Kingston could have won the WWE Title for 2 weeks and then dropped it back to Orton only to continue with the screwjob finishes and then finally drop it to Bryan who then decides to go to Japan with the belt since he knows exactly who Triple H is...a BITCH! ***FACE POP***

*W-W-E! W-W-E! *STOMP STOMP STOMP* W-W-E! W-W-E!*

[Cool King]

Was just going to post that, Lock Jaw.

Great minds and all that jazz.

[Cool King]

"That" being the "I love how confrontational everybody gets after a PPV." thing.

[James Steele]

I meant in regards to Bryan only with the give and take stuff. If the title isn't traded, there isn't sufficient give and take to me. It's just them dominating the situation. Becomes stale.

Bryan has won the title twice. We got our moment, only for it to be taken away. What more "give and take" do you want other than Daniel Bryan to get a long reign which is just you whining like a mark because you don't get what you want as soon as you want it. That is the riveting thing, they can't keep coming up with ways to screw him out of it. Eventually, he will get his moment and all these months of personal hell for Daniel Bryan will culminate in a moment that will live on forever in the hearts and minds of the WWE Universe for generations to come. Daniel Bryan's first long term reign as WWE Champion will be as memorable as Mick Foley's moment in the sun. The Odyssey wouldn't have been a timeless epic tale if it ended after 2 chapters.

[Nark Order]

Even better, Kofi Kingston could have won the WWE Title for 2 weeks and then dropped it back to Orton only to continue with the screwjob finishes and then finally drop it to Bryan who then decides to go to Japan with the belt since he knows exactly who Triple H is...a BITCH! ***FACE POP***

*W-W-E! W-W-E! *STOMP STOMP STOMP* W-W-E! W-W-E!*

And Steele has officially gone full retard.

[Poit]

Even better, Kofi Kingston could have won the WWE Title for 2 weeks and then dropped it back to Orton only to continue with the screwjob finishes and then finally drop it to Bryan who then decides to go to Japan with the belt since he knows exactly who Triple H is...a BITCH! ***FACE POP***

*W-W-E! W-W-E! *STOMP STOMP STOMP* W-W-E! W-W-E!*

and you accuse me of using hyperbole

[James Steele]

I'm just trying to speak in y'alls Chicken Little language of hyperbole, eternal damnation, and torture via television program.

[Nark Order]

Bryan has won the title twice. We got our moment, only for it to be taken away. What more "give and take" do you want other than Daniel Bryan to get a long reign which is just you whining like a mark because you don't get what you want as soon as you want it. That is the riveting thing, they can't keep coming up with ways to screw him out of it? Eventually, he will get his moment and all these months of personal hell for Daniel Bryan will culminate in a moment that will live on forever in the hearts and minds of the WWE Universe for generations to come.

It isn't give and take if Bryan doesn't win the title and keep it long enough to lose it to Orton again. Is this the first time you've watched wrestling? Have you ever seen a Championship feud before? This is fairly standard stuff. Orton won. Then the corporation won by screwing him and now Orton and the corporation won. Why should I even are anymore?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

He didn't say he didn't use hyperbole. He is saying that Narc can't complain about somebody using it.

[James Steele]

#TheImpactZoneJustBrokeIntoAHugeSTDChant #YAMBAGYAHTZEE

[James Steele]

It isn't give and take if Bryan doesn't win the title and keep it long enough to lose it to Orton again. Is this the first time you've watched wrestling? Have you ever seen a Championship feud before? This is fairly standard stuff. Orton won. Then the corporation won by screwing him and now Orton and the corporation won. Why should I even are anymore?

You whine about them trying to rehash something, but on the same hand complain when they try something different. You should care because of the emotional story being told. Instead, you are getting caught up in Bryan not winning the title and dancing around in his underwear singing "We Are The Champions".

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

It isn't give and take if Bryan doesn't win the title and keep it long enough to lose it to Orton again. Is this the first time you've watched wrestling? Have you ever seen a Championship feud before? This is fairly standard stuff. Orton won. Then the corporation won by screwing him and now the Orton and the corporation won. Why should I even are anymore?

Orton won but he didn't win clean. There is wiggle room for Daniel Bryan to claim he wasn't defeated since he had him clean for the three count from the Knee and HBK's Superkick. Daniel like Captain Kirk with Trelane is beaten but not defeated.

[James Steele]

Missing the forest for the trees, Narc. It is like refusing to enjoy sex because the chick's cooch isn't shaved perfectly smooth. "I like it, but not as much as I could because my personal preferences aren't being met exactly." "You still came." "Shut the fuck up. Samoa Joe is cutting another intense promo."

[James Steele]

It'd be like me hating the podcast because of y'alls opinions on TNA. Instead, I choose to confront you about it while I secretly dream of having Heisenberg do commentary of my first drunken three way with 2 female Russian powerlifters.

[James Steele]

Fuck, I haven't had a ridiculous and long-winded argument on TPWW in forever. I feel like my soul just took the energy of 50 babies and is unleashing it all at once.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

And by "love", I mean I hate it. Like watching mom and dad fight. :'(

Discussion with disagreements isn't fighting.

[James Steele]

What Lock Jaw is saying is that I'm his daddy and Narc is like his submissive mother who licks my taint upon request.

[Krimzon7]

HBK could superkick a baby with a ice skate on

This is amazing posting.

[James Steele]

Narc, you probably enjoyed this article:

http://cdn.tss.uproxx.com/TSS/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/triple-h-lead-600x345.png

Fucking bullshit.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Please point out where we claimed it was innovative and riveting.

He can't because it never happened. They just argued that authority figure vs. rebel is now a part of the fabric of wrestling. That is true but it was WWE who created the fabric so anybody judging it as a WWE ripoff is still correct.

Also Dixie turning heel soon after Stephanie and Triple H is also very interesting which wasn't brought up by in the podcast discussion (odd.)

[KIRA]

Great. Too bad the WWE Universe will be red hot tomorrow for RAW while you and the TLP crew shed gallons of crocodile tears waiting for another awe-inspiring Dixie Carter heel promo.

Agreed. I'm by no means a fan of The Game and I could rail against him but here hes supposed to be a dick and youre supposed to hate him in short

HE'S DOING HIS JOB!

[James Steele]

Triple H is the...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MoYDxtoQpIo/UB9ZgTB2mLI/AAAAAAAAABY/uPDAXhgHfPQ/s1600/cm_punk_logo.png

[James Steele]

http://static.tumblr.com/gqlnath/GnDlxhq5z/tumblr_lqenqa2ana1qkiqdko1_500.gif

[James Steele]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CZio7XQmjd8/T75y3UF505I/AAAAAAAABOw/a-rv2e29riQ/s1600/john-goodman.gif
I. THOUGHT. I. SAID. NO. MORE. C. M. PUNK. ANIMATED. GIFS!!!!!!!!

[GD]

I missed the entire PPV as I was on a boat drinking wine and listening to music.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

So you missed the baseball game too? :mad:

[Savio]

I'd like this storyline a lot better as it is now if they built bryan up like a badass, he was a badass in the summer. Tonight he got kick in the face, pin then LEFT THE RING. he should have attacked orton when he came too. He needs to cut out his "YES! YES!" shit when something bad happens to him. I sincerely hope they DO NOT have him say yes yes in his entrance tomorrow night. That would be retarded.

Bryan needs to do more work on the night, Bryan should have been the one to say "I've overcome everything you thrown at me" not have HBK say it for him.

[Savio]

With that being said though in my opinion:

Bryan should have went over and HHH should have got a new lackey to go after Bryan (Henry?)

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

"I've overcome everything you thrown at me" not have HBK say it for him.

He does say that every few promos maybe not in the exact wording HBK did but the message was the same. It's better if it comes from a person of authority on the subject though. Anybody can say that about themselves. It's has more impact coming from his trainer (well, taker of his money) and a Hall of Famer.

[GD]

Among all active pro-wrestlers, John Cena has the maximum number of world title reigns. After winning the World Heavyweight Championship at Hell in a Cell, he surpassed "The Game" Triple H.

[Savio]

Possibly i missed it, he had no lines in the build up promo, I usually see him not being as serious as I think he should be. He had his belt stolen from him and was just like "Meh" about it.

I always think during this storyline "What would Austin do?" "Steal the belt back"

[Savio]

The opening Dixie/AJ/Bully segment from Thursday was a crock of shit BTW.

[GD]

So you missed the baseball game too? :mad:

I don't watch baseball but I am glad that Red Sox won :)

[Poit]

Also Dixie turning heel soon after Stephanie and Triple H is also very interesting which wasn't brought up by in the podcast discussion (odd.)

I keep meaning to bring up the parallels between WWE and TNA, but I don't take notes for Impact, so I always forget by the time we do the podcast. :-\

[#1-norm-fan]

I'm certainly no James Steele when it comes to fellating Triple H and have shit on his promo work in the past but he, along with Stephanie surprisingly, have been pretty fucking good promo-wise throughout this angle.

[DAMN iNATOR]

YAY, SO FUCKING STOKED CENA GETS TO RUIN SMACKDOWN! INSTEAD OF RAW NOW :nono:

[James Steele]

:lol:

The World Heavyweight Championship (aka Triple H's belt) will once again become the main focus of the WWE.

[#1-norm-fan]

DAMN iNATOR still thinks there's a roster split.

[GD]

:lol:

The World Heavyweight Championship (aka Triple H's belt) will once again become the main focus of the WWE.

I am so glad that they finally put the belt on someone as important as John Cena. It deserves to be the focus.

YAY, SO FUCKING STOKED CENA GETS TO RUIN SMACKDOWN! INSTEAD OF RAW NOW :nono:

Awwww....that is so cute.

[Tazz Dan]

Maybe he'll do everyone a solid and defend it on ECW on SciFi too.

[James Steele]

DAMN iNATOR still thinks there's a roster split.

There is still a roster split. I can't wait for Team WWE vs Team NXT at Survivor Series.

[James Steele]

It'll be even better this time next year when it is Team WWE vs Team NXT vs Team TNA at Survivor Series.

[GD]

As of now, AJ Styles is slated to defend his belt outside of TNA. I will be really shocked if he made an appearance on WWE television.

[GD]

Maybe he'll do everyone a solid and defend it on ECW on SciFi too.

I hear you. Ezekiel Jackson has held on to the ECW Championship since 2010. Talk about "Best in the World".

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Stealing Punk's line from his promo saying maybe he'd defend in Japan or go back to ring of honor. That's what WWE should have done with the storyline good job TNA but it's still stealing.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

:lol:

The World Heavyweight Championship (aka Triple H's belt) will once again become the main focus of the WWE.

What I don't really get is why they think Cena is a ratings magnet to the point where they brought him back early to get a title. Where is this golden age of Cena ratings? He's driven most of the attitude era fans away. Ratings have gone down every year since he was made the focal point of Raw and the WWE He can still sell shirts without even being on TV. I'd like to know the Cancer Cena shirt sales numbers to prove that.

[Wake Up Call]

I agree with Steele, I love the storyline. Except the ending of battleground, I think it is the best storyline in the last 10 years.

Some people can't handle a long term story, it's really too bad that you can't ehhh it for what it is, i sure am, and will continue to do the same each week.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

This one is going to lead up to WrestleMania 30. So anybody thinking this is going to be ending any time soon best jump off now until Royal Rumble or whatever.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

People who complain about the long term booking issues are the same people who complain about WWE not making new stars while shitting on guys like Sheamus in 2009 when he was coming up the ranks. They don't want long term booking, new stars or whatever else they say they want. They just want something to complain about.

[James Steele]

#TeamJamesSteeleSTD

[James Steele]

...wait....

[James Steele]

#TeamJSTD

[James Steele]

#TeamCommonSense

[James Steele]

http://www.tpwwforums.com/image.php?u=1208&dateline=1297424746&type=profile

[slik]

Hey James Steele

Triple H is a no good bloodhound in a candle factory. WUT U THINK BOUT THEM TITTIES NOW!


JayKay

[slik]

Also, I need your approval for the stream group so in 4 weeks I can just post a damn stream so people will stop asking in the thread.