World of Warcraft: Legion

[road doggy dogg]

Under 30k? Sweet. I will probably re-join Azeroth shortly

[Heisenberg]

well, tag me in for a bit, the token went to my bag, how the piss are ppl supposed to come back and cash in? Do they let ppl come on trial time or something?

[road doggy dogg]

I would hope there would be something on the Launcher you could use to set it up.. idk

[Heisenberg]

I'll do some digging

[Heisenberg]

seems you can, it'll ask somewhere in the log-in progress. the price has been up and down all yesterday

[road doggy dogg]

It'll settle eventually. I need to re-download the game as well anyway still. Deleted most of the stuff on my desktop in anticipation of cloning my hard drive to my SSD. Didn't pan out properly. Might still just format and start ANEW on the SSD and re-download it then. DECISIONS.

[Heisenberg]

I get a pretty sweet hour or so at night (10-11pm central time) to play and it feels good to not being addicted to it, I like logging in and doing some crap and leaving. If I could earn my way with tokens I'd be good, but I know things like this don't last forever

[Ruien]

Is anyone getting interested in the Heroes of the Storm game? Apparently everyone and their mothers has been invited to the beta now. Going to hop on that this weekend. For some reason my computer won't run LoL anymore (Happened randomly. Gives me some weird error when I get into a actual LoL game) so I am hoping this can be a replacement.

[Heisenberg]

MOBA isn't my bag

I'll probably twitch a match or two and move on with my life

[road doggy dogg]

Dota 2 is the best MOBA

Heroes is okay for a stripped-down MOBA experience. Played a bunch of the Alpha, doesn't seem "deep enough" to hold my attention

[Ruien]

What the heck does MOBA mean? I thought Dota 2 was okay but I raged quit when I lost to some scrub in my second match.

[Requiem]

Multiplayer Online Battle Arena

Dota 2 takes a lot of time to understand. You can play a hundred games and still be a noob. In fact, you -will- still be a noob at a hundred games. I have almost 400 games and I still feel like a noob even though I have a pretty good grasp on things. There are just certain advanced tactics that you won't wrap your head around for a while.

That's what I love about the game. There are so many heroes, so many items, and so many combinations of those, that every game is different. Every hero has multiple ways they can play, and multiple strategies used to counter them. When you finally figure something out on your own, or make a game-swinging play, it's awesome. Love games that don't hold your hand, and force you to figure it out yourself, or in the case of Dota, watch other people play so you can understand what you're doing wrong.

[Heisenberg]

Well fuck yeah I'd be down to try one again after reading the previous post. Fucking pumped about living it up

[drave]

If you can stand the toxicity of the community, it can be fun.

[drave]

Also, Neverwinter seems like a really good MMO on console.

[Ruien]

Multiplayer Online Battle Arena

Dota 2 takes a lot of time to understand. You can play a hundred games and still be a noob. In fact, you -will- still be a noob at a hundred games. I have almost 400 games and I still feel like a noob even though I have a pretty good grasp on things. There are just certain advanced tactics that you won't wrap your head around for a while.

That's what I love about the game. There are so many heroes, so many items, and so many combinations of those, that every game is different. Every hero has multiple ways they can play, and multiple strategies used to counter them. When you finally figure something out on your own, or make a game-swinging play, it's awesome. Love games that don't hold your hand, and force you to figure it out yourself, or in the case of Dota, watch other people play so you can understand what you're doing wrong.

Went through that with LoL. No where near that many games before I was decent but it was a sharp learning curve. I still raged after I lost to a scrub and that told me I should not be playing the game.

[road doggy dogg]

Single best piece of advise for playing any MOBA is to ignore every and any person you are playing with/against, unless you queue up together. Improves your enjoyment and performance by 2000% minimum.

The only interaction I have with most players is telling the fucking Peruvians how much I love tacos.

[road doggy dogg]

Random Warcraft movie-related post

Watched "Hostage" the other day w/ Ben Foster as super creepy dude in it... looked like a grown-up (and not fat) kid from Sixth Sense

isn't he supposed to be in the Warcraft movie... wonder what role he will play

[road doggy dogg]

Also, he was in Alpha Dog which STARRED (uncredited role) Dan fucking Scott

cool shit


apparently, according to IMDB, he is playing the part of Medivh in the Warcraft movie. fucking love Medivh, nice

[Requiem]

Went through that with LoL. No where near that many games before I was decent but it was a sharp learning curve. I still raged after I lost to a scrub and that told me I should not be playing the game.

I think that makes you the scrub. Just saying. You sound like a filthy casual.

[road doggy dogg]

Losing isn't a big deal at all. I mean, I typically play unranked so there's that. But even still, the matchmaking algorithm generally pits you against players of comparable level and w/e. I get more frustrated at myself for being out of position and getting Pudge hooked etc than actually angry at the Pudge player. SELF-BETTERMENT

plus it's sooooooo soothing to make fun of the Peruvians. This cannot be stressed enough.

[Requiem]

Losing isn't a big deal at all. I mean, I typically play unranked so there's that. But even still, the matchmaking algorithm generally pits you against players of comparable level and w/e. I get more frustrated at myself for being out of position and getting Pudge hooked etc than actually angry at the Pudge player. SELF-BETTERMENT

plus it's sooooooo soothing to make fun of the Peruvians. This cannot be stressed enough.

Ya, I am really critical of my own mistakes. Only thing that pisses me off about the community sometimes is how little everyone appreciates a job well done. Sometimes you'll meet some people who understand the game enough to know when you did something that was exceptional, but it's like every noob in the game thinks you have to be a pro at the game at all times, and nobody is impressed when you do your heroes job correctly or pull off game-changing plays.

Have experienced this a lot lately as Omniknight. Do your job, and nobody notices it. Don't cast a spell one time on a guy that needed it when he was diving farther than he should have anyways, and suddenly you're the worst thing in the world and you're the reason the team is losing instead of the carry that's fed 5-12 the whole game.

[Ruien]

I think that makes you the scrub. Just saying. You sound like a filthy casual.

This post was really mean to Requiem so I am editing it.

[Requiem]

Yeah, what is your problem? I read it before you edited it. You need to pull your head out of your ass and stop making everything into a personal attack for no fucking reason. Check yourself before you Req yourself kid.

[Ruien]

Sooo, I take something back and you still want to comment on it huh. Guess you have failed to evolve. Thanks for the confirmation.

[Ruien]

But hey, that 2 year degree is kicking your ass so I understand. You have a lot on your plate there.

[Requiem]

And you just couldn't help but say what was really on your mind anyways.

[Requiem]

Sooo, I take something back and you still want to comment on it huh. Guess you have failed to evolve. Thanks for the confirmation.

The person you were directing it at saw it before you could take it back. Maybe you should think about what you're posting before you do. The sentiment you were trying to get across, made it across to me more than clearly enough before you decided to redact it.

[Ruien]

I really don't care if you did see it. I was attempting to be nice. Honestly, you took a shot at me first. So ya.

[drave]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!


c'mon TPWWUNIVERSE, let's gather round in a loud circle and encourage violence.

[Requiem]

I really don't care if you did see it. I was attempting to be nice. Honestly, you took a shot at me first. So ya.

What don't you get dude? You said it, and the person you directed it at SAW IT. You can't redact a comment out of 'niceness' after you've already said it.

Grow a pair of balls you uppity bitch. "Ohh look at me, I'm such a nice guy for taking back the shitty thing I said about you that you weren't supposed to hear and you're such a bad guy for calling me out on it"

Fuck off. I'm about to deal with this shit in a feud thread if you don't clear up why you're being such a cunt. Even in my response I asked what your deal was, and gave another tongue-in-cheek comment. And instead of trying to bury the hatchet, you just spurred it on further. You're the one escalating it by not stopping and realizing how much of a tool you were and are being.

But yeah, you're such a niiiiiice guy for "taking it back" so nobody except the guy who it was directed at could see what a cunt you're being.

[road doggy dogg]

Settle this in the Dalaran Sewers. No consumables.

[Requiem]

I think that makes you the scrub. Just saying. You sound like a filthy casual.

How is this a shot at you? What the fuck don't you understand about forum banter? You're being a real owenbrown here. You took this, and went immediately to personal attacks about my intelligence and life situations. As if you were making some sort of joke, but not realizing that you're touching on real life shit, while I'm making a joke about your prowess at video games.

[Ruien]

Lol. Amazing.

[Ruien]

You might be a better person to poke at than Kris P.

[Requiem]

Settle this in the Dalaran Sewers. No consumables.

I'll settle it in a 1v1 mid lane duel.

[Ruien]

So anyways, getting way back on topic, will anyone be playing Heroes of the Storm this weekend? Rolling with a party of 3 it seems during the day on Saturday but nothing really planned for the night or Sunday.

[road doggy dogg]

I'll settle it in a 1v1 mid lane duel.

Mid Huskar wrecks fools, fire spears so powerful early game

[Requiem]

AXE WILL MESS YOU UP

[road doggy dogg]

So anyways, getting way back on topic, will anyone be playing Heroes of the Storm this weekend? Rolling with a party of 3 it seems during the day on Saturday but nothing really planned for the night or Sunday.

I haven't even played since Beta started tbh... like I said, Alpha was fun but it felt like a stripped-down experience. There are definitely positives to having 15-20 minute games, I just prefer the more nuanced take that Dota 2 does with the genre

That all said... have to see if I still have HotS installed. I cleaned out a ton of my hard drive in anticipation of installing a new SSD so I might have to re-download it

[Requiem]

Is HotS free to play, or should I not give a shit about it.

LoL is "freemium" which I hate. Tried playing it, couldn't get into it because it seemed too simplistic, and I hated that they cycle through 'free champions' because I'd rather just have access to all of them so that everyone is on equal ground. Hate the idea that I could end up playing against people with OP heroes that not everyone has access to.

So anyways, what is HotS' business model?

[road doggy dogg]

I haven't read too much about the game and am just going off of my Alpha experience, but it does have a hero rotation but is also free to play. Every time you win a game or do objectives or w/e you get currency to unlock heroes. Doesn't seem a terribly high cost to unlock most heroes either. I think throughout playing the Alpha very very very sparingly I accumulated enough currency to unlock 3 different heroes.

Can use the currency on skins etc too. And, unlike Dota, the HotS skins look fucking amazing. Some of them are incredible.

Not sure how much of that will change, if the hero rotation was just intended for testing/balancing purposes in development, etc, or if that will be in the final game or what

[Ruien]

Ya, I have no idea Requiem. I only watched a gameplay during lunch yesterday and thought it looked okay to play. I will answer your questions after Saturday though.

[Requiem]

I haven't read too much about the game and am just going off of my Alpha experience, but it does have a hero rotation but is also free to play. Every time you win a game or do objectives or w/e you get currency to unlock heroes. Doesn't seem a terribly high cost to unlock most heroes either. I think throughout playing the Alpha very very very sparingly I accumulated enough currency to unlock 3 different heroes.

Can use the currency on skins etc too. And, unlike Dota, the HotS skins look fucking amazing. Some of them are incredible.

Not sure how much of that will change, if the hero rotation was just intended for testing/balancing purposes in development, etc, or if that will be in the final game or what

Meh, doesn't really sound like my kind of thing. Think Dota2 is enough for me. And I like Dota2's item sets. I think they look snazzy. Not every hero has them, or even has cool ones, but a LOT of the heroes have some really badass sets.

[road doggy dogg]

The design of the sets is cool enough, but the low poly counts kinda suck overall. Not a deal-breaker by any stretch for me, just pointing out that as usual Blizzard has put a tremendous amount of polish on their product

[Blonde Moment]

So just jumped into WOD and am planning to level a pally to 60 before I up him to 90 the question of the moment for me is what combination of profs will give me the most gold, for farming tokens, and still be viable for a prot pally?

[Heisenberg]

On my pally I do Blacksmithing and Mining. That is the slowest way to profit (off professions)

Your garrison is going to be your gold, my alts have garrisons, they all pour money into your pocket

[Heisenberg]

Also, grinding Cataclysm dungeons is worth it's weight in gold. I'm also campaigning for Champions that come back to group up and slay some of the Pandaria raids for gold

[Ruien]

Heroes of the Storm seems really good. Just like LoL in the ways you obtain characters/get to choose them. There is no items to buy which I kind of like because you pick talents as you level per match.

[road doggy dogg]

Speaking of Blizzard's other products, Hearthstone is available on iPhone now holla

[Ruien]

I was a HUGE fan of Hearthstone until they did a expansion with a ton of new cards I did not wish to learn anymore. Almost beat all of Naxx too without spending any real money.

[Ruien]

I have had the urge to play Warcraft 2 but don't believe its possible due to the new computers and such. :( Wonder if my mom has one of the old ass computers anywhere but I doubt it.

[road doggy dogg]

Warcraft 3 should be, and honestly nostalgia aside it is objectively better than 2 in every way. Been wanting to play 3 for months again, should reinstall this weekend

[Ruien]

I actually started playing Warcraft 3 about a month ago. Made it to the Orc campaign so far.

I just want to do Warcraft 2 for the story because I was a little kid and did not give a crap about it. I also need to save the red base when I am the alliance because I loved mixing the red and blue soldiers. Hell, the main reason I love the color red is because I had to save those slackers from the Orcs.

[Ruien]

The problem I do have with Warcraft 3 is the normal difficulty is far to easy. But there are some maps that the hard difficulty is just INSANE. I only encountered 3 maps so far that have been like that though.

[drave]

Y'all herd bout timewalkin in WoW.... comin' from a patch near you.

http://kotaku.com/old-dungeons-are-back-in-world-of-warcrafts-timewalkin-1697926552

Better than moonwalking and you don't have to diddle kids after getting them date-rape drunk on Jesus juice.

[Ruien]

Going go laugh is Oculus goes in and confuses the hell out of everyone. Wonder how "hard" they will make them.

[road doggy dogg]

Haha I was reading on MMO-Champ about it and people were flipping out because Nexus was on the list of old instances and everyone thought it was Occulus

[drave]

:(

Fucking noob WoW latecomers with their welfare purplez AMIRITE!?

[Ruien]

Loved Nexus. Was a well done instance. Gave a lot of different elements instead of fighting the same type of mobs for the entire thing. You had the big ass dragonkin, evil mages, and some walking trees that seemed really random to me.

[drave]

Don't forget about the upbeat, almost dance, music.

[Heisenberg]

Oculus was the best, yet my whole guild has abandoned me, so I don't know if this will bring me back when my time runs out, I have 2 months token'ed up, might save them for a rainy day

[drave]

Thought you were taking the GM of your guild or they were at least behind your push to the top?

[Ruien]

Could see Heisenberg cutting a sick ass promo in Skype/Vent/Teamspeak turning heel on his guild.

[drave]

He should, and record the piss out of it to play back on tits later.

[Blonde Moment]

Just ran across a guild called nwo wolf pack

[drave]

Wanted to drop in and say FUCK YOU WOW for killing SC Ghost.


Resume dailies.

[road doggy dogg]

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/19800551

they finally caved

[Heisenberg]

can't bring myself to play these days. Flying won't bring me back

[road doggy dogg]

I've been wanting to revisit for months but I'm the same... I just can't bring myself to it. The game puts me in a weird mental state where I find myself compelled to just be online even if I'm not doing anything productive. I always have this fantastic idea in my head of how my time in Azeroth will be spent but it never comes to fruition.

[drave]

Just walk away....
http://i.imgur.com/WRCnnUy.gif

[Ruien]

Trailer is out foe the next expansion. Seems like it was just a year ago since the last one.

[road doggy dogg]

DEMON HUNTERS

[Blonde Moment]

World of Warcraft: The Trail of Tears, fall 2017

[Heisenberg]

Part of me wants them to awaken the new Lich King, but it seemed pretty final that Bolvar was going to sit there undisturbed, but it is a new era of people harassing Blizzard so idk

[road doggy dogg]

World of Warcraft: The Trail of Tears, fall 2017

i don't even understand what this means

[RP]

Can my 80 Priest and 80 rogue compete? CAN WE LIVE?

[Blonde Moment]

i don't even understand what this means
The crying from people complaining about the the artifacts, elf only DH and flying through achievements

[road doggy dogg]

haters gon hate

[Blonde Moment]

It sucks
I myself am looking forward to it but the wife hated how gated and how big of a pain in the ass Draenor was is considering not bothering with Legion. Makes me a sad Panda

[road doggy dogg]

The might as well just call this expansion World of Warcraft: Fan Service

surprised the Lich King isn't making a cameo as well

[Ruien]

I played the hell out of Draenor until my crappy guild stayed really crappy. Really loved the pug system for raids but still wanted to have a bond between the people I played with the most. I was 6/7 heroic in the first raid before my guild went 6/7 on normal mode :(.

[Ruien]

No idea why people disliked the Garrisons either. Had super fun sending my people on missions and building them up.

[road doggy dogg]

I have conceded that in order for me to enjoy the game at this point it will only be with a couple people. Dont' ever see me doing the whole full raiding guild thing again.

Overall I enjoyed the expansion a lot too.

Garrisons I didn't mind so much, but I don't like the precedent that it's isolating people more and more. For better or worse, I enjoy going into an area and seeing tons of other players rather than NPCs. World feels so empty sometimes.

For that reason I'm really looking forward to the Class Halls (or w/e they're called) in Legion. Will be cool if some of the better players of your class are there and you can bounce questions and shit off them instead of just tabbing out and reading Icyveins etc

[Ruien]

I sold my account for $200.00 so I need to wait for the annual sale for the old games to happen before I get WoW again.

[road doggy dogg]

wow with all the catch-up shit and everything in the game I'm surprised they still go for that high :D

[Ruien]

Ya. I basically made my main super awesome and then sold him a couple months after the expac hit. Couldn't sell it all prior to the expac when I tried.

[Heisenberg]

Anyone playing the Alpha for Legion by any chance? Heard a lot of good things about it. This may be a ploy to bring the BC crowd back and I'm going to hear it out for at least a few months.

[road doggy dogg]

I'll sporadically check MMO-Champ for news and stuff but I don't wanna get too overhyped for it until closer to launch. WoD was fun at launch but garrisons and crap killed it for me

[drave]

Anyone playing the Alpha for Legion by any chance? Heard a lot of good things about it. This may be a ploy to bring the BC crowd back and I'm going to hear it out for at least a few months.


Bring the BC crowd back how??

WoW ended for me at WOTLK. Northrend was my final destination as everything that followed seemed super underwhelming.

[Heisenberg]

A chance to be the same race as Illidan, fuckin sign me up playa

[drave]

Oh..... pfft.

[road doggy dogg]

WotLK was really the end of any of the content I think they set out to do. Everything else has pretty much been a rehash of pre-existing crap.

I get it though. I mean. The game had 12 million active subscriptions. You don't just take that number and say, "Well guys, we did what we set out to do. Let's wrap 'er up!"

No, you gotta keep churning out content for people. I don't fault them for Cata and beyond being relatively meh, I think they just got too big for their britches at that point and had an OHSHIT moment and had to scramble to make compelling content.

Granted, the game itself hasn't drastically gotten worse or anything (MoP under-rated expansion) but lore-wise anything post-WotLK was just MEH so it makes it harder to invest in

[road doggy dogg]

*NOTE: Dexter TV show spoiler below



Basically if I was to compare WoW to a TV show it would be Dexter. Incredible idea to kick things off and a new world that we were all really invested in, that got better and better and then after you kill Arthas that was the "Trinity killing Rita" moment and it's been kinda meh ever since

[drave]

YOU DIDN't USE SPOILER TAGS YOU HEATHEN!

[road doggy dogg]

hey wanna see a picture of a dead kid

[Heisenberg]

Shit on the game all y'all want, I still remember all the goodness Warcraft has brought me. They can't be expected to put out perfection, but they have my respect to at least give their expansions a chance.

[road doggy dogg]

Oh yeah, I'm obviously buying the expansion, I'm just not disputing that Wrath was their peak

[drave]

I remember once I was having trouble getting into Kara after I was attuned and called on a GM.

It was 2AM or something like that, so the GM decided to have fun. He turned me into a giant chicken and then "punted" me across the damn continent. My character looked like he was flying across all the zones really fast. Ended up on some island where GM's used to take people who were banned, about to be banned, etc. while they worked on the issue on their end.

Have TONS of great mammaries with WoW, including a lovely group of people I played/raided with for a while. I'm sure if I had the time like I used to, I would still play.

[road doggy dogg]

The one fantasy football league I am in that I actually care about is with a bunch of my old WoW guildmates. Great group of guys. Feel like they could be like a group of "old college buddies"... good comradery

[Heisenberg]

That's your group, it'll never be replicated. Nothing will most likely ever top the amount of cohesion that early-WoW required and manifested. I'm just stubborn that maybe one of these expansions will bring that back for me someday. I assumed that everyone would settle down and be more into WoW, it turned out different. Don't blame anyone from a graphical stance, but damn I'll never forget BC/Wrath days. Glad I didn't take them for granted

[drave]

I remember kicking a Pala healer out of the guild because they could NOT get the concept of moving away from the god damn fireballs at the 2nd boss of Zul Aman. We would wipe over and over. Gave him a week to read/brush up but he still kept fucking doing it.

A few people quit, saying it was BS that he was kicked, but when you are in a progression guild and you aren't progressing, you get rid of the problem. Brought on a new Pala healer and cleared the whole damn raid the next time we ran.


What was your all time favorite raid that you actually participated in? Going for both location AND boss (they do NOT have to be related).

I LOVED the whole feel of Karazhan from start to finish. The atmosphere, music, etc. I was also very fond of ZA when it opened. Could be incredibly challenging at times.


Can't remember the dragon in Kara, but that is easily one of my more favorite fights. The one with the 3 different portals that certain players would have to absorb inbetween DPS'ing. The Lich King fight was fun too.

Favorite raid of all time for me was Mount Hyjal I think. Just seemed so fast/chaotic with all the waves of enemies and then BOOM, boss outta nowhere!!!!

Which one was the one where you had to protect the Tree of Life? That one was good too - been too long and I can't remember all the details of all the raids I did.

[road doggy dogg]

Karazhan and Ulduar were the two best designed raids IMO

My favourite was probably MC simply because it was all such a new concept to me (even if the raid itself was very vanilla) and the concept of tackling these giant monsters with 39 other people was just sofa king cool and yeah.

[drave]

Never got to do 40 man raids with an actual group. Revisited them much later of course, and I could only imagine how epic it felt.

I remember watching chat go by and/or watching friends do the raids. Seemed like it took longer to get everyone together than the actual raid. That seemed hellish.

[road doggy dogg]

Oh yeah. They were utter shitshows. That was part of the charm of it though, I guess.

[Heisenberg]

UUUULLLLLDDDUUAARRRRR

[drave]

Always loved the dudes in Northrend who would yell "I'LL EAT YOUR HEARRRRRTTT!" and then charged you.

Actually all of Northrend pretty much rules. If Northrend were real, I'd go live there.

[Heisenberg]

Cataclysm had some good parts, I know that expansion is what made a lot of people leave, but farming that rainbow ore was pretty soothing to me(Pyrite).

[road doggy dogg]

Isn't Iceland kinda like IRL Northrend?

[drave]

Kinda. Should definitely move to Iceland. Better quality of life too.

[road doggy dogg]

Yeah I wanna go. Cheap-ass flights right now.

[drave]

I could easily live here:

https://drscdn.500px.org/photo/39894576/m%3D2048/8d363fbbad97a6189e1c3038de827f59

[drave]

And the other half is HOT LAVA!

[Heisenberg]

It won't have Dalaran in the sky, but it's close and acceptable.

[road doggy dogg]

I guess it's more like Frostfire Ridge then

[drave]

The female population more than makes up for it.

[Heisenberg]

Sholazar Basin was the best for ore farming.

[drave]

Howling Fjord is my favorite zone ever.

[road doggy dogg]

Grizzly Hills was my favourite zone in Northrend. I thought it was really well done.

[road doggy dogg]

That and Storm Peaks. Even though much of the terrain was "wasted" I thought it just had this incredible epic sense of mystery and awe

[Heisenberg]

Grizzly Hills had that one quest along the shoreline(east) that led into that tomb. Enjoyed the Rastafarian ghosts and all

[Heisenberg]

Howling Fjord is my favorite zone ever.



More peaceful that Gankful Korean Tundra

[drave]

LOL!


First time I went to Northrend I started in Borean Tundra b/c Rogue + leatherworking. That was the ONLY time I started in that zone.

Even the 1st 5 man dungeon in Northrend rules. Don't remember it right now, but it was sooooooooooooooo fun.

Seriously considering downloading a "private" version Sixx told me about just to do Northrend shit.

[Heisenberg]

NEXUS or Utgarde Keep, both rule yes

[drave]

UT - that's the one. I always remember the fire around the forges was where the music seemed to "kick up a notch".

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[Ruien]

SSC was my favorite raid boss wise. Kara and ZG (25 man raid in Vanilla. Was the first big raid. I think it was called ZG) were my 2 favorite all around raids ever.

[Ruien]

When does the expac hit? I will get it, get hooked, beat the pissed out of the first raid, and then sell my account. Unless I find a super cool guild to keep me interested.

[Heisenberg]

Looking like this summer, but it might be a beta, if so then no later than fall

[Ruien]

Nice. Hopefully the class hall thing they add is cool. Enjoyed the garrison thing more than most. Really liked leveling my people up for them to get me gear.

[Heisenberg]

They are currently in Alpha and I listened to a lot of the beginning story with the Demon Hunter starting area. It is a must for me to play out the expansion story.

[Ruien]

Who is playing this? Horde or Alliances? I am going to be picking this up in a few days again.

[Heisenberg]

A welcome change to the zones you travel to. You can choose which zone to start off in, BUT you have to stay there until completion

[Ruien]

What is your gamer tag?

[RP]

Suppose i wanted to start playing this again. Do i have to start at level 1? How lost would i be? If i buy Legion, does that give me all the expansions too or do i have to buy everything all over again?

[Ruien]

If you buy Legion you don't need to buy all the expansions. It comes with everything. You can instant level 1 character to level 100.

You won't be lost. They took out a lot of the buttons. My toolbars are half filled and I use maybe 9 buttons for fighting. It has been simplified.

Honestly, save your money. I plan on raiding to gear up and just sell my to on again for a profit. It's just Burning Crusade part 2.