Did WWE deliberately set out to tarnish Sting?

[Jazzy Foot]

making him lose the way he did making him look weak and subservient with the who I will take whatever is thrown at me bullshit. What is Vince's problem? Why is he such a bastard? Should he drop dead right now?

[Sepholio]

YEA REALLY FUCK VINCE HE'S A DICK,,,,,,,

[Damian Rey]

He looked real weak no selling a face smash, kicking out of a pedigree, fighting off dx, kicking out of sweet chin music, and only succumbing to being smashed in the face with a sledgehammer. God they just buried him.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Stick to titties JazzyFoot.

[Jazzy Foot]

they made him lose to that fag triple h hence he is branded a loser. Vince should drown in a vat of his own urine.

[Fignuts]

Everyone loses to triple h. it means nothing

[Jazzy Foot]

it does to me I traveled all the way to Santa Clara just to see him win and was so upset I couldn't muster the energy to masturbate in front of or grab Paige's boobies. I feel ripped off and want a refund, compensation and my pound of flesh. Yes jazzy foot is going Shakespeare on you all.

[daimoniac]

i was always looking at this being the "closure" on the monday night war - yes its been years since wcw folded and that shitty invasion angle, but it sort of seemed like this was due to be the definitive end.

im hoping that the angle isn't actually over though.

side note - fuck vince for that whole "we took a man from obscurity and gave him his wrestlemania moment" line. if by obscurity you mean people watching more events featuring him than wwe programming on the network you own then yes, you did, and you really should lay off the mushrooms before you turn into jim herd

[Vastardikai]

I'm amused by how "obscure" Sting is, especially considering how John Cena is heavily influenced by his surfer era.

[Sixx]

Those were the worst Scorpion Deathlocks I have ever seen.

[Wrestlemania]

Actually NO. Sting already knew he was going to lose at Wrestlemania. I think the match ended the way it should. I'm hoping Undertakers last match is next year and it's against STING!! 2 guy's in a retirement home match

[Choviko Man]

who is a sting

[Choviko Man]

i dream a drain halailai

[Shisen Kopf]

Sting? More like Stink amirite?!

[Bad News Gertner]

He's a 56 year old man. What exactly did you want tits man?

[Jazzy Foot]

He's a 56 year old man. What exactly did you want tits man?

I wanted him to win and then for there to be a tits match and public masturbation.

What's the point in having large stadiums in this stupid country if you're not allowed to fucking jerk off inside of them?

No wonder Rusev is going on about how bullshit America is.



What a bullshit WM. Sting lost, Rusev lost, no tits match.

[Bad News Gertner]

I completely agree

[Anybody Thrilla]

Jazzy Foot does bring up some pretty interesting points.

[OverTaker]

To be fair, Sting came in and started interfering with the Authority first. Sting will not go out this way.

[Jazzy Foot]

I wanted to interfere with Paige

[Fox]

There are so many things wrong with Triple H pinning Sting at Mania, I don't even know where to begin. Start with the fact that it just makes Sting look like a total bitch. All of this work to bring him in and they job him out during his first match - I don't care if he took a sledgehammer shot or if it wasn't a fair match or if God himself held Sting's shoulders to the mat. That match should have ended one way - Sting with his hand raised, Triple H crawling to the back and letting Sting have his moment.

Triple H won because he had another segment to do after his match. And he gets more heat going out to the ring with Steph after beating Sting than he would have gotten after getting beaten by Sting. He needed that heat because his segment was with Rock and Ronda, which was probably being treated as the most important segment of the entire show.

Do we realize that Triple H is the one who gets to beat everyone? It's been this way since 2003.

Nobody in WCW could beat Goldberg without a fucking stun gun. Even when he came to the WWE and his streak was less important, Goldberg beats Rock, Jericho, Christian, Kane... who got to beat him? Triple H. More than once.

CM Punk becomes the hottest property in the industry since the Attitude Era - almost overnight. He beats John Cena (twice) for the WWE Championship - one of them relatively clean. Who does he lose to? Triple H. For no reason.

Brock Lesnar comes back to WWE and brutally mangles John Cena on RAW and at Extreme Rules. He turned Cena inside out a year later in their infamous Summerslam match. He beats CM Punk - arguably the biggest face in the company - at SummerSlam the year before that. He runs through guys like Big Show and Mark Henry like they're soft butter. He ends the Undertaker's WrestleMania streak. But who has a WrestleMania victory over the baddest man to ever grace a WWE ring in the Beast Incarnate? Triple H.

I need not mention Triple H's "programs" with a young Randy Orton, Rob Van Dam, Booker T, Kane, Chris Jericho... the list goes on.

And now, Triple H gets to beat Sting in his first match in a WWE ring, at WrestleMania no less.

When is enough enough?

[Sixx]

Btw is Triple H turning face now? I mean that handshake and whatnot.

[drave]

I don't care if he took a sledgehammer shot or if it wasn't a fair match or if God himself held Sting's shoulders to the mat.

Vince proved that God is the worst tag team partner ever.

[Hanso Amore]

To be fair HHH jobbed to Bryan and the shield for months last year and hadn't won a match in forever

[Big Vic]

The thing that buried sting was his promo the next night saying:

"Golly gee, I sure am happy I got to wrestle at Mania. I hope they ask me back for another match"




There are so many things wrong with John Cena pinning Brock at Extreme Rules 2013, I don't even know where to begin. Start with the fact that it just makes Brock look like a total bitch. All of this work to bring him in and they job him out during his first match - I don't care if he took a Chain shot or if it wasn't a fair match or if God himself held Brock's shoulders to the mat. That match should have ended one way - Brock with his hand raised, John Cena crawling to the back and letting Brock have his moment.

Do we realize that John Cena is the one who gets to beat everyone? It's been this way since 2003.

[Keith]

There's GOT to be more to all of this than just Sting coming out, getting his match at Mania and LOSING to Triple H.


If that's ALL Sting ever does as an in-ring performer in the WWE, then it doesn't make a whole lot of sense...unless the company really DID want to just bury him.

[Zeeboe]

making him lose the way he did making him look weak and subservient with the who I will take whatever is thrown at me bullshit. What is Vince's problem? Why is he such a bastard? Should he drop dead right now?

That's Vince's being Vince.

[McLegend]

There's nothing with Sting losing to HHH... That's fine.

There is something wrong with going out of your way to bury everything and everyone involving WCW though.

[Jazzy Foot]

They should get Lex Luger to rape Vince and Triple H in the ring. It would be pay back for Vince insulting Luger too on Raw.

[XL]

At first it was a WTF? choice. We couldn't have Sting vs. Taker because neither man could afford to lose the match, so we got Sting/HHH...but Sting lost anyway.

Then I got to thinking; it was pretty smart booking.

Next year they're looking at getting 100,000 people at Mania, they're looking to stack the card. They've set up something with Rock/HHH, one of the hottest feuds (albeit from over a decade ago) that never went to Mania one-on-one. Personally, I've no interest in that match, but if that's what they're going with they needed to put some shine on HHH.

I wasn't a fan of the tacked-on WWE vs. WCW stuff, especially if you have Sting contradict it in his promo. But the DX/nWo stuff popped the crowd.

Now, Sting came in for his one chance at a Mania moment, and he had it stolen from him. This gives him reason to come back next year; another shot at a Mania win, a chance to prove himself, and who better to prove himself against than the guy with the best Mania record of all time? The Undertaker.

You put both guys in to the Hall of Fame the night before, do the presentation of the other inductees then segue straight into entrances for Sting and Taker; First Time, Last Time. Hall of Famer vs. Hall of Famer. Give the fans the match they wanted on the show that you need to sell tickets for.

HHH vs. Rock. (Or HHH/Steph vs. Rock/Ronda)
Taker vs. Sting
Austin vs. Cena

[Evil Vito]

<font color=goldenrod>I don't think WWE tried to tarnish Sting deliberately...but I'll just borrow from what I posted in another thread:</font>

<font color=goldenrod>While I don't doubt Sting had been clued in to some of the plans before he signed, what happened in the build vs. what we actually got in the match seemed very contradictory.

Look at the build. Sting made it very clear during his pre-Mania Raw promo that he wasn't fighting for WCW (going as far as to say "that would be ridiculous at this point"). He was fighting to save WWE from suffering the same fate as WCW. He didn't want a tyrant authority figure dragging the company into the ground.

Then the match comes and all of the talk about it not being about WCW winds up meaning precisely dick as it's basically all the announcers talked about. Then you have DX, the nWo, and the announcers gushing on about the 90s. The WWE.com write up for the match just painted the entire point of the match as a final WWE/WCW showdown.

And then after all is said and done, Sting shook hands with the very tyrant he swore to stop, and Triple H then proceeded to gloat about it later that night to build towards what appears to be a match with The Rock at some point.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the nostalgia of the match. But based on how it went down, maybe it would have been better for Sting to say he was fighting for WCW in the buildup. Instead what looked like it'd be a long-term story that might have ended in a power struggle type deal with a SummerSlam rematch just seemed to get scrapped in favor of yet another Vince McMahon "remember, I killed WCW" ego stroke.</font>

[Jazzy Foot]

Does anyone approve of my suggestion of Luger raping Vince?

[Wrestlemania]

To me that match was just a huge Advertisement for Terminator Genesis.
I wonder how much money Arnold paid to have that done?.

[Jazzy Foot]

Vince is gay

[Theo Dious]

Does anyone approve of my suggestion of Luger raping Vince?

Right like Vince is going to say no to some Lex Buttsex.

[Vastardikai]

Can Lex even get around these days?

[Outsider]

I was praying for a Shane O'Mac run in wearing a WCW t-shirt :(

[Damian Rey]

I was praying like hell for a diamond cutter.

[Jazzy Foot]

I was praying like hell for a diamond cutter.

Well DDP was there at WM so could have happened.


My preference would have been first DX come out, then NWO just Hall and Nash, then HBK attacks Sting and him and Triple H about to double team Sting and then voodoo child hits and Hogan comes out and takes them both out.


Another alternative would have been to have Ric Flair come out seemingly to help Triple H only for him to low blow the game.


I actually think having Flair involved would have been highly appropriate given his closeness to Triple H and his long time rivalry with Sting making the low blow against Triple H even more significant.

[Vastardikai]

I would have had Flair come out, apparently to help Sting, only to turn on him again.

[Destor]

Lot of retards in here