View Full Version : Rollins STRIPPED of WWE WHC, Out 6-9 months
DAMN iNATOR
11-04-2015, 07:13 PM
http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/1104/603461/seth-rollins-possibly-injured-at-wwe-live-event-in-dublin/
Well, shit.
Lock Jaw
11-04-2015, 08:14 PM
EVERYBODY PANIC AND ASSUME THE WORST! QUICK!
SlickyTrickyDamon
11-04-2015, 08:18 PM
A Quick job out to Roman Reigns!?
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! The Worst!!!!!!!!!!!!
Damian Rey
11-04-2015, 08:21 PM
Hopefully not true. However, if it leads to a double turn at Survivor Series, and Reigns and the Authority take out Rollins and use his knee as the write off, a surprise return down the line could do him some good.
Hopefully he's not hurt and they do the double turn screw job anyway.
Simple Fan
11-04-2015, 09:22 PM
EVERYBODY PANIC AND ASSUME THE WORST! QUICK!
WWE World Heavyweight Championship Series.
DAMN iNATOR
11-04-2015, 10:09 PM
EVERYBODY PANIC AND ASSUME THE WORST! QUICK!
Just so you and everyone else knows, I didn't post this thread as an attempt to "clickbait". "Don't shoot the messenger".
NormanSmiley
11-04-2015, 11:02 PM
Cool story bro
parkmania
11-04-2015, 11:04 PM
Video of the incident
https://www.facebook.com/PWSpotlight/videos/1005107046194456/?fref=nf
Emperor Smeat
11-05-2015, 12:04 AM
Rollins was lucky he didn't snap his foot with how awkward he landed.
DAMN iNATOR
11-05-2015, 03:05 AM
Cool story bro
Thanks for your take.
Corporate CockSnogger
11-05-2015, 03:07 AM
Seems like the perfect time of year to bring back Nash to take out yet another vanilla midget and make wrestling entertaining again.
#BROKEN Hasney
11-05-2015, 05:43 AM
According to PWInsider.com, a WWE source noted backstage talk at the live event is that Rollins tweaked his knee, and while the severity of the injury is still unknown it appeared to be a normal, in-ring accident which will likely require no more than Rollins taping up his knee tonight.
Simple Fan
11-05-2015, 02:46 PM
WWE World Heavyweight Championship Series.
Its happening. WWE app just informed me about a tournament at SS.
Just received a notification from WWE's app that a tournament will determine a new champion at Survivor Series.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERollins">@WWERollins</a> suffers knee injury. New Champion to be crowned at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SurvivorSeries?src=hash">#SurvivorSeries</a>. <a href="https://t.co/Abvt1GtPsO">https://t.co/Abvt1GtPsO</a> <a href="https://t.co/eZ7OsIwmhT">pic.twitter.com/eZ7OsIwmhT</a></p>— WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/662354809928982532">November 5, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Lock Jaw
11-05-2015, 02:55 PM
Well damn.... WWE.com saying he will be out for six to nine months, so he won't even get to be around for Mania. Wasn't a huge fan of his run, but sucks big time that it won't get to "pay off" properly....
Lock Jaw
11-05-2015, 02:57 PM
If Bray Wyatt wasn't going to be fighting in some sort of team match vs. Undertaker/Kane/?? I would say that they should put the belt on him (via him beating Roman Reigns clean in the finals, to show that his new powers have made him stronger)
Roman Reigns prob gonna walk out Survivor Series as the champ now....
Sepholio
11-05-2015, 02:59 PM
Tournament for the title seems wrong. Reigns just earned his title shot, shouldn't he automatically have a title match at SS with the tournament being held beforehand to see who he faces?
Innovator
11-05-2015, 02:59 PM
DEADLY GAME 2: ELECTRIC BUGALOO
Lock Jaw
11-05-2015, 02:59 PM
Maybe Roman Reigns vs. Dean Ambrose in the finals of the Deadly Games tournament, and Roman Reigns wins with the help of Triple H and he becomes the Corporate Champ....
He's baaaaaaaaaaack!
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Sepholio
11-05-2015, 03:03 PM
And for anyone thinking this automatically makes Reigns a shoo-in.....well, there is a certain BEAST INCARNATE who might have something to say about that considering he has nothing lined up at the moment.
Evil Vito
11-05-2015, 03:03 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Well...I guess this will make it easier to turn Rollins face when he's ready to return. Just have the guy with the belt at that time be the new "Corporate Champ".</font>
Lock Jaw
11-05-2015, 03:08 PM
Time to panic and bring back CHRISTIAN to give him the belt! Only logical move!
Sepholio
11-05-2015, 03:10 PM
If he legit tore his ACL, MCL and medial meniscus I think 6-9 months is hoping against hope. Most professional athletes can take up to a year to recover from JUST the ACL, let alone all 3.
Please God no to a Roman Reigns vs Sheamus title feud...or a Roman Reigns vs Del Rio title feud....just no.
Once he gets back he can brag he was never defeated for the title. So there's that.
Sepholio
11-05-2015, 03:16 PM
Once he gets back he can brag he was never defeated for the title. So there's that.
And then Lesnar and Heyman appear on the ramp laughing at him.
Heyman: "Say it ain't so, Seth! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
Maluco
11-05-2015, 03:19 PM
Deadly Games replay would be awesome, with it looking like The Authority were backing someone the whole time only to give up when Ambrose and Reigns get to the finals. Show them dejected backstage etc...
Do the turn and let's Reigns play off always having been the chosen one and how "anyone but him" drove him crazy enough to sell out and go with what his destiny always was.
You have a feud with Ambrose, Cena and then Lesnar for Mania...
Evil Vito
11-05-2015, 03:19 PM
<font color=goldenrod>As corny as it may seem...Sheamus not even being in the tournament but cashing in at the end of Survivor Series to win the belt might actually be pretty interesting, especially since the fact that he's "buddy buddy" with HHH in real life is well known. It would blur the lines of reality a bit.
Even if it ends up boring and a flop they could take the belt off of Sheamus by the Rumble and set things up however they want for Mania.</fint>
Innovator
11-05-2015, 03:23 PM
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Heisenberg
11-05-2015, 03:27 PM
Sheamus would win the WWE title and going into the WM I'm attending, just my damn luck. WWE, you have no Honor!!! yatai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody Thrilla
11-05-2015, 03:29 PM
Absolutely terrible news. I was loving Rollins as champ, and I think his reign still had a lot more steam.
Tournaments are kinda fun, though.
Heisenberg
11-05-2015, 03:30 PM
Rollins getting stripped is good for his career in the long run though. It's a gimmick he can ride upon return. Face or Heel as well. Everyone knows he can go in the ring, it's all about timing. Hope he gets to rest up and enjoy life a little bit before hitting the road again
Anybody Thrilla
11-05-2015, 03:32 PM
I can just picture Sheamus on the Raw after Survivor Series standing there with the title, and he will without question say something like "WHO LOOKS STUPID NOW???"
Nicky Fives
11-05-2015, 03:33 PM
A little short notice to get the 64-man tournament I have been clamouring for for years..... Reigns seems like the odds on favourite, but this is an easy way to make a new star *coughs Ambrose *coughs Cesaro
RiX1024
11-05-2015, 03:33 PM
Gutted, best heel champ in a while. I wonder who'll win the tourney in Survivor Series? hope not Cena
Wishbone
11-05-2015, 03:36 PM
Shiiiiiit... Welp, there went the Shield 3-way at 'Mania. Guess we all better get ready for WWE World Heavyweight Champion Roman Reigns/Sheamus. Only good thing that can come from this is that maybe we'll see Bray get pushed as a legit threat again to fill the void of top heel going forward, or a Roman heel turn. Roman heel turn could be good.
Ruien
11-05-2015, 03:40 PM
That sucks. He is the best talent they have currently too. So lame.
Big Vic
11-05-2015, 03:50 PM
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Theo Dious
11-05-2015, 03:53 PM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody Thrilla
11-05-2015, 03:54 PM
How many people do you think will be in the tourney? 8? Who do you think they'll be?
Big Vic
11-05-2015, 03:57 PM
Sixty fucking four wrestlers will enter the tourny..... one will be the true survivor at survivor series.
Sepholio
11-05-2015, 03:58 PM
Cena, Reigns, Ambrose, Cesaro, Ziggler, Ryback, Lesnar and Big E
Cena/Reigns and Ambrose/Lesnar for the semis.
Lesnar/Reigns final.
Survivor Series just got 1000% more interesting.
They could do qualifying/preliminary rounds over the next few weeks, we'd have matches with meaning and they'd be able to feature a few more guys (maybe in a meaningful way) per week, and spin off the happenings in the tournament into new storylines.
Anybody Thrilla
11-05-2015, 03:59 PM
Cena hasn't been on TV since Hell in a Cell. What's he up to?
Or they could call Cena to cancel his holiday.
Big Vic
11-05-2015, 04:14 PM
Survivor Series just got 1000% more interesting.
They could do qualifying/preliminary rounds over the next few weeks, we'd have matches with meaning and they'd be able to feature a few more guys (maybe in a meaningful way) per week, and spin off the happenings in the tournament into new storylines.
It could make smackdown important again!
#BROKEN Hasney
11-05-2015, 04:28 PM
Wow, talk about a ratings panic move. Try to relive Deadly Games.
Except they'll probablly make it lame like KOTR and only have the semis and final at the PPV.
Big Vic
11-05-2015, 04:29 PM
And then the winner will job for 6 months.
#BROKEN Hasney
11-05-2015, 04:30 PM
And then the winner will job for 6 months.
Pretty much. At this point, I'll only watch again if they have a consistent run of interesting sounding shows. Kinda skipped through Summerslam and that's the only wrestling I've watched since the Raw after Mania.
Oh, and I watched New Day clips.
Simple Fan
11-05-2015, 04:34 PM
This could really be used to push Bray. I'd hate to say it but why not have Bray beat Reigns with the souls of Taker and Kane and continue that feud. Anyone buy Roman, also could see Kevin Owens stepping in as the Authorities favorite now and somehow winning the title.
Corporate CockSnogger
11-05-2015, 04:43 PM
Just saw this on Twitter. Survivor Series 98 got me into wrestling and there's never been a better ppv. I may watch it if they have at least 8 guys in the tournament during the ppv
Corporate CockSnogger
11-05-2015, 04:47 PM
It also seems to indicate that these vanilla midgets can't be relied on. They all seem too fragile.
Shadrick
11-05-2015, 04:50 PM
And this PPV is in Atlanta. I'll be in attendance.
Jazzy Foot
11-05-2015, 04:51 PM
What so if there's going to be a tournament bring back Lesnar, Cena, Taker and Sting from their injuries/hiatuses?
Indeed if the former two aren't injured, no way they can have any sort of tournament to crown at WHC and not include those two.
WWE Champion The Big Show
Jazzy Foot
11-05-2015, 04:53 PM
Put it on Undertaker. What better way to mark his 25th anniversary in WWE than by winning the belt. Stranger things have happened.
Jazzy Foot
11-05-2015, 04:53 PM
Will they also be stripping the Divas?
Time for a good old fashioned naked oil wrestling tournament.
#BROKEN Hasney
11-05-2015, 04:55 PM
Just saw this on Twitter. Survivor Series 98 got me into wrestling and there's never been a better ppv. I may watch it if they have at least 8 guys in the tournament during the ppv
I was thinking and Deadly Games is a tournament full of stories crossing over between everyone and expert writing.
This is likely to be I WANT DAT BELT and shitty characters AKA not Survivor Series 98. Will watch if Shane turns up in a ref shirt and flips the bird.
Emperor Smeat
11-05-2015, 04:56 PM
<font color=goldenrod>As corny as it may seem...Sheamus not even being in the tournament but cashing in at the end of Survivor Series to win the belt might actually be pretty interesting, especially since the fact that he's "buddy buddy" with HHH in real life is well known. It would blur the lines of reality a bit.
Even if it ends up boring and a flop they could take the belt off of Sheamus by the Rumble and set things up however they want for Mania.</fint>
Sheamus does make the most sense as Rollins' replacement for the Authority's hand-pick star. If done correctly could have MitB 2011 type vibes where Vince was willing to do anything to keep the belt on his side. Also the best way to get Rollins to turn face if he gets ditched like Orton was.
Still was a bad idea to make Sheamus the MitB winner in the first place though.
Jazzy Foot
11-05-2015, 05:01 PM
Sheamus does make the most sense as Rollins' replacement for the Authority's hand-pick star. If done correctly could have MitB 2011 type vibes where Vince was willing to do anything to keep the belt on his side. Also the best way to get Rollins to turn face if he gets ditched like Orton was.
Still was a bad idea to make Sheamus the MitB winner in the first place though.
If and when Sheamus cashes in I think we will see a rare "match following a match" yep despite the clear exhaustion it causes the winner of the previous match and Sheamus failing to claim the belt.
His current run/character just doesn't seem to be appealing.
#1-norm-fan
11-05-2015, 05:06 PM
Call me crazy, but I don't think Reigns is gonna be the one to win the tournament.
#1-norm-fan
11-05-2015, 05:07 PM
If he is, having him go corporate is probably the way to go though.
Simple Fan
11-05-2015, 05:09 PM
Why can't Sheamus just cash in now?
Jazzy Foot
11-05-2015, 05:12 PM
If he's injury free I see let this be the chance to give Sting his WWE title run....minimal work to win the belt and keeps it for a short while.
Yes everyone's saying it's silly to give a 56/57 year old dude the belt but (assuming he recovers from injury) I can't imagine him having jobbed twice including once at WM without being offered something big in return. Don't want Sting's last mark on wrestling to be a whimper although if the injury is too serious that's how it will have to be.
Undertaker is another possibility maybe Lesnar v Taker 4 oh how tedious, but merely for the emotional aspect of it being the 25th anniversary of his debut.
Lesnar of course. Cena if he's back getting his record title.
I'm still unconvinced about Reigns as a champion, I'd prefer Ambrose.
#1-norm-fan
11-05-2015, 05:15 PM
Why can't Sheamus just cash in now?
Because Vacant is unbeatable. That's why they always have to just end up taking the title off of him and having other guys fight for it.
The CyNick
11-05-2015, 05:15 PM
Its interesting because they could do the same booking as 98 Survivor Series with Roman.
Cant see them doing anything more than an 8 man tournament on the show, which would be fine.
Have a bunch of qualifying matches over the next two weeks on RAW. Reigns shouldnt have to qualify.
#1-norm-fan
11-05-2015, 05:17 PM
Remember when they gave Vacant a "pretentious douchebag" gimmick and renamed him "Abeyance"?
WWE Champion The Big Show
I would rather see Kane as the new WWE World Heavyweight Champion. The poor lad held the belt for barely a day.
Lock Jaw
11-05-2015, 05:30 PM
What about Mojo Rawley
Mojo 4 champ
Pray for Mojo....
Droford
11-05-2015, 05:51 PM
Wish they coukd have done a who ran over Seth angle..so they could have Roman ran over Seth Rollins
Theo Dious
11-05-2015, 05:55 PM
Wish they coukd have done a who ran over Seth angle..so they could have Roman ran over Seth Rollins
Fuckin Samoans always running people down. For the Rock.
Theo Dious
11-05-2015, 05:56 PM
Remember when they gave Vacant a "pretentious douchebag" gimmick and renamed him "Abeyance"?
Nice to see he's gone back to his roots. That whole Abeyance shit was never over.
Maluco
11-05-2015, 06:21 PM
This will suck if it is only semis at the PPV. They have a chance here to invest in 8 characters or a few stories and make them really interesting.
8 should be Roman, Ambrose, Owens, Ryback, Big Show, Kane, Del Rio, Ziggler
Have Kane and Big Show in there to highlight authority shenanigans and blur lines. Kane having to guarantee an authority win to get his job back. Have Del Rio or possibly even Ziggler caught talking to HHH or Steph during the night.
Have tension between Roman and Reigns. Owens making a great showing. Have Sheamus beaten in a qualifier by Reigns and have him sulking about in the background.
If Lesnar is in, ditch Big Show and him being in would really make things interesting.
If they do this right, it could be the biggest event of the year. It should have a feel like anything could happen on the night.
SlickyTrickyDamon
11-05-2015, 06:22 PM
Deadly Games 2 set for Survivor Series.
SlickyTrickyDamon
11-05-2015, 06:24 PM
Is this the first time Vacant is both Florida Heavyweight and WWE World Heavyweight Champions?
Maluco
11-05-2015, 06:25 PM
Can you imagine the pop if the authority screwed Lesnar in the final to put over Reigns and Lesnar only reappeared in the Rumble as number 30?
Maluco
11-05-2015, 06:36 PM
Something that would be original, albeit a bit strange would be the Authority getting Sheamus through the tournament without using the case.
Easy to set him up as a massive heel and an obstacle if you basically have to beat him twice to make sure he doesn't cash in straight after a loss
Rammsteinmad
11-05-2015, 06:48 PM
Fuck.
There goes my hopes for a WWE title triple threat match between Rollins, Ambrose and Reigns.
SlickyTrickyDamon
11-05-2015, 06:53 PM
Whoever wins eats a Brogue.
Droford
11-05-2015, 06:54 PM
John Cena disappears..Rollins knee explodes...hmm
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Simple Fan
11-05-2015, 07:00 PM
If its an 8 man tournament I could see it being:
Roman Reigns #1 contender
Sheamus Money in the Bank holder
King Barrett King of the Ring
Kevin Owens IC Champ
Alberto Del Rio US Champ
Dean Ambrose
Cesaro
Bray Wyatt
Could have qualifiers for the 3 spots not guaranteed.
Give it to Rusev. When was the last time we had a barefoot champ?
Lock Jaw
11-05-2015, 07:13 PM
He ain't barefoot anymore
Whaaa? Really?
Don't give it to him then.
Nicky Fives
11-05-2015, 07:37 PM
Cesaro needs to finish Top 4 for sure, and give him an upset win over someone like Randy Orton in the quarters.... So easy to make stars in a tournament if done correctly....
Dean Ambrose its time to turn on your brother and become the best fucking evil heel this company has seen in years.
Feel bad for Seth though suffering the unhappy triad.
Damian Rey
11-05-2015, 07:56 PM
They can do a Shield triple threat at Summer Slam. If Reigns is still champ by then, you could have Ambrose win MITB, with Rollins cashing in his rematch the same night. After getting the shaft, Rollins takes a chair to Roman, with Dean coming in to pick up the pieces.
Reigns cashes in his rematch and Rollins gets another crack come Summer Slam. Could even do a "Road To Summer Slam" follow up leading in.
This is assuming Reigns and Rollins flip flop.
As for the tourney, having Reigns go over Ambrose in the main event, with the Authority siding with Roman, would be brilliant. Builds an instant feud into the next year, and perhaps instead of Rollins, Ambrose gets the Triple H match at Mania.
DAMN iNATOR
11-05-2015, 08:02 PM
VACANT v. REIGNS, HOT FUCKING FEUD
PS - Thanks to whomever stickied this; assuming it was slik, but good looking out. :y:
The Destroyer
11-05-2015, 08:03 PM
Whaaa? Really?
Don't give it to him then.
He's had little booties for a while now. Isn't he hurt as well anyway?
Emperor Smeat
11-05-2015, 08:07 PM
Give it to Rusev. When was the last time we had a barefoot champ?
Rusev is hurt as well. Got injured last week during a Main Event taping.
DAMN iNATOR
11-05-2015, 08:14 PM
So much bad news for WWE this year: Piper's and Dusty's passing, Hogan 'N' word "scandal", Snuka probably going on trial for murder, Cena leaves temporarily, Rusev, Orton, Rollins currently all injured, plus other injuries I think I'm missing.
2016 and a chance at a fresh start can't come soon enough. I guess the questions are - Do you bring back Cena way early for Survivor Series? Do you risk calling up 1 or 2 NXT guys? I wouldn't want to be in Vince, HHH or Steph's shoes.
The Destroyer
11-05-2015, 08:20 PM
They'll probably have to dip into the emergency Brock fund.
Damian Rey
11-05-2015, 08:21 PM
I'd save Brock for the Rumble. It sucks, but Rollins getting hurt opens up a chance for new guys in the main event scene.
Ultra Mantis
11-05-2015, 08:22 PM
Now's their chance to fix things by immediately pushing Johnny Curtis to the moon.
Damian Rey
11-05-2015, 08:26 PM
Can you imagine Curtis running out of nowhere, beating down Triple H, and cutting a promo denouncing the fandango gimmick and blaming the Authority for not giving the man Johnny Curtis a legitimate opportunity? Yes please.
Innovator
11-05-2015, 08:37 PM
They should really pull the trigger and put it on Shinsuke Nakamura
What Would Kevin Do?
11-05-2015, 08:46 PM
They should really play this off as Rollins being "jumped."
And then just have a throwaway line of Kevin Owens telling HHH "Your champ jeopardized my career and my family with his recklessness last week... Heh, I guess he got his."
What Would Kevin Do?
11-05-2015, 08:47 PM
Seriously though, doesn't this make Bray Wyatt and Kevin Owens basically the top hees right now?
Jazzy Foot
11-05-2015, 09:04 PM
Sting
Simple Fan
11-05-2015, 09:09 PM
They should really play this off as Rollins being "jumped."
ESPN reporting it kinda throws that out the window. Coach tweeted about injuring his knee in a match.
Simple Fan
11-05-2015, 09:15 PM
Seriously though, doesn't this make Bray Wyatt and Kevin Owens basically the top heels right now?
You would hope. Could really use Wyatt having Taker and Kanes souls to help him win the title, then have Kane and Taker as his monsters to use as he pleases. They only follow the his commands when he's holding the title. Ambose would be a good guy to take the title off him and release their souls.
Mr. Nerfect
11-05-2015, 09:18 PM
This sucks for Rollins, but provided he recovers well, I do think this will be a good refresher for him later. Just trying to point out the silver-living. When he returns he'll get a huge pop and could turn against The Authority who just "forgot about him." Rollins is going to make the most money he is ever going to make in the WWE as a top babyface.
As for who they go with now? My first thought is that without the The Undertaker & Kane vs. The Wyatt Family officially booked, they might put a kibosh on that and just have the new "super-powered" Bray Wyatt enter the tournament on the other side to Reigns. Ambrose is likely to be in there too. If I had to predict a top four, I'd probably guess that Reigns vs. Del Rio and Ambrose vs. Wyatt will be the semi-finals. Ambrose could beat Owens, Del Rio could beat Cesaro, Wyatt could beat Ryback and Reigns could beat...Sheamus or Big Show? Seems like a pretty safe bet for crowd reactions and such.
Now would be a great time to make the call to some guys like Chris Jericho, The Rock, Brock Lesnar or Batista, or calling up some fresh blood like Finn Balor or Samoa Joe, but I can see the WWE sticking to their game plan.
I'd love to see Cesaro make it further through the tournament, but I can't see them letting him achieve that, even though it would be a great story and get the crowd invested. I think we'll probably get a Reigns vs. Ambrose final, and that one of the two might possibly turn heel. I could see Reigns as Corporate Champ, but they might feel it's "been done," and just go with Ambrose to continue flaming the "Reigns super-babyface" fire.
Mr. Nerfect
11-05-2015, 09:20 PM
I could see a Reigns vs. Ambrose final with Sheamus (and Barrett) hitting the ring and making it a Triple Threat, with Sheamus leaving the PPV as the World Champion. I'm not keen on Sheamus as MITB holder or as champ, but I could see them doing it. Four-way TLC at the next PPV between those guys.
Fignuts
11-05-2015, 09:58 PM
All I want is the big skull entranceway.
Emperor Smeat
11-05-2015, 10:06 PM
Agree with Simple Fan on Bray winning the title being a great idea.
Would give his current heel push a huge boost that could make him into the new "Lesnar" or beast of the WWE. Already is set to become the new phenom with the powers he's eaten and has a menacing stable that Rollins rarely had with the Authority.
Would also give a huge boost to whoever takes the belt from him either Reigns or some other rising/young new star. Also perfect way to officially start the post-Cena era for the WWE.
Can even solve the Sheamus MitB dilemma by having the Wyatt Family demolish him once he cashes in.
Ermaximus
11-05-2015, 11:32 PM
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#1-norm-fan
11-05-2015, 11:50 PM
Can you imagine Curtis running out of nowhere, beating down Triple H, and cutting a promo denouncing the fandango gimmick and blaming the Authority for not giving the man Johnny Curtis a legitimate opportunity? Yes please.
A rogue Johnny Curtis promising to fuck shit up if they don't give him his shot, getting fired and showing up at arenas across the country to wreak havoc and interrupt the show. I prefer my Johnny Curtis in a role where he can still show off his comedy charisma in a Rock-like fashion but as a start... I'll take it.
#1-norm-fan
11-05-2015, 11:54 PM
OOH! He can ribbon dance around the arena as he runs from security, distracting a bored crowd from whatever lame, meaningless match happens to be going on in the ring at the moment. Eventually when the "We want Johnny"/"We want ribbons" chants dominate 90% of Raw, Triple H is forced to rehire him to save the show.
Shadrick
11-05-2015, 11:58 PM
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I like the way you think.
James Steele
11-06-2015, 12:26 AM
Now is the time to push Dean Ambrose to the moon!
Lock Jaw
11-06-2015, 12:31 AM
How about giving the belt to Triple H, Steele?
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Somewhere Nash is inexplicably stricken with a dull ache in his quads.
Seriously give the belt to Ambrose.
Damn this sucks for Rollins, I was a big fan of his reign. On the other hand, a tournament would be a good Survivor Series change from the usual multiple hastily put together team matches.
Ermaximus
11-06-2015, 12:48 AM
Survivors of said elimination matches face off in a battle royal for the title.
Simple Fan
11-06-2015, 01:04 AM
Also could get behind Cesaro joining the Authority and winning the title. Would be something fresh Vince could get rid of the Cesaro section with a heel turn.
What's Bryan's status?
From what we've heard / read, Bryan says he's healthy, but waiting for a clearance from a third doctor. Would the WWE risk it? It wouldn't do shit for face Reigns, but a returning Bryan is the perfect foil to turn Reigns as well.
Cometh the hour, cometh the biggest drawing World Champ of all time:
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What Would Kevin Do?
11-06-2015, 07:56 AM
They seem to be subtly building to an Ambrose heel turn on Reigns.
Honestly, have the tournament where Reigns eliminates Ambrose in the semi-final, for Ambrose to come back in the finals and just destroy Reigns.
This is going to be interesting, because you have Reigns, Wyatt, and Sheamus who are basically at main event level now, and a ton of guys who are right on that cusp, and given a little nudge (Cesaro and Ambrose being the most notable), could probably take the ball and run for a few months.
Man, this is a killer. Just laying out the current situation, we have:
Brock Lesnar - not around
John Cena - not around
Daniel Bryan - injured
Randy Orton - injured
Sting - assumed injured
Rusev - injured
Undertaker - occupied
Kane - occupied
Bray Wyatt - occupied
Luke Harper - occupied
Erick Rowan - occupied
Braun Strowman - occupied
The New Day - probably occupied
Lucha Dragons - probably occupied
-
Possible Survivor Series field:
Roman Reigns
Dean Ambrose
Sheamus
King Barrett
Alberto Del Rio
Jack Swagger
Dolph Ziggler
Kevin Owens
Ryback
Cesaro
R-Truth
Tyler Breeze
Usos
Fuck me. I don't want to come off negative, but that looks like such a weak field. Hopefully they inject some life into it, but going back to Sheamus or Del Rio as top heels to carry things after the last 5 years of strong pushes and miserable failures really doesn't feel like the way to go at a time when ratings and house shows are already below par.
Sepholio
11-06-2015, 08:00 AM
Considering all those rumors that keep going around about Vince wanting Ambrose to go with a more "Vegas" style character wouldn't he fit in better as the new Corporate Champ?
I hadn't heard that about a vegas character...could be interesting.
Perhaps this whole deal explains the Tatanka signing.
Sepholio
11-06-2015, 08:04 AM
OMFG! TATANKA WWE CHAMP!
How were we so blind!?
OMFG! TATANKA WWE CHAMP!
How were we so blind!?
Precisely what I was thinking.
TATANKA YOTANKA HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD
Innovator
11-06-2015, 09:07 AM
hb2k, you're forgetting ALEX RILEY is rehabbing right now
Big Vic
11-06-2015, 09:28 AM
Push rage
erickman
11-06-2015, 09:41 AM
Considering all those rumors that keep going around about Vince wanting Ambrose to go with a more "Vegas" style character wouldn't he fit in better as the new Corporate Champ?
well there is sumoa joe and james storm put them in or maby wwe can get aj styles for a surprise
hb2k, you're forgetting ALEX RILEY is rehabbing right now
Shit, good catch. I should also update it to include the Cosmic Wasteland.
Big Vic
11-06-2015, 10:03 AM
I'd support a Stardust WHC run.
Stickman
11-06-2015, 10:08 AM
It will be Dolph Ziggler
Sepholio
11-06-2015, 01:37 PM
Samoa Joe and Finn Balor should be in the tournament as surprise entrants.
Sepholio
11-06-2015, 01:38 PM
It will be Dolph Ziggler
Not a bad choice. He really has nothin to do right now and like I said earlier in the thread, they need a face champion of some sort considering all the others are heels.
DAMN iNATOR
11-06-2015, 02:06 PM
Not going to happen, but can you imagine how insane the crowd would go for
http://i.imgur.com/I4GLIOk.gif
Wish there were an actual chance of that, but hey, a guy can dream.
Big Vic
11-06-2015, 02:31 PM
Is this the first time Vacant is both Florida Heavyweight and WWE World Heavyweight Champions?He is also TNA champ but I don't blame you for forgetting, they are barely a company.
The CyNick
11-06-2015, 02:38 PM
All depends how many guys they want in the tournament.
Im assuming it's an 8 man tournament at the event.
Reigns
Big E
Del Rio
Cesaro
Ambrose
Wyatt
Ziggler
Owens
That would be my field assuming no outsiders. Would be cool if they could get some other guys like Jericho or Rock, but I'm assuming that's not happening.
If Reigns was meant to turn heel, this would be perfect way to do it. Have it come down to Reigns v Ambrose and Ambrose gets screwed. Ambrose v Reigns have a program culminating prior to Mania.
Brock wins Rumble and sets up the match with Reigns.
Simple Fan
11-06-2015, 02:57 PM
Then Sheamus cashes in and brough kicks Reigns to win the WWE WHC.
Jazzy Foot
11-06-2015, 04:42 PM
Can someone clarify something for me. This whole tournament business, does that mean the elimination tag match between the Wyatts and Taker and Kane has now been shelved?
I mean how can you have a tournament to crown a champion and not include Wyatt in there and for that matter Taker given the whole event is being billed as his 25th anniversary?
I for one wouldn't mind seeing Taker (or Sting) lifting the belt come the end of the night. Sure it would make no fucking sense given the beating he just took from Lesnar but didn't Austin win the belt off The Rock after a beating from Triple H at the previous PPV?
I think the whole event should be tournament matches and the obligatory WWE title match.
I for one would tune into that from start to finish with intrigue as opposed to just playing it in the background and tuning in as and when my main match is on.
The CyNick
11-06-2015, 04:44 PM
Then Sheamus cashes in and brough kicks Reigns to win the WWE WHC.
Hopefully that's not the plan
The CyNick
11-06-2015, 04:54 PM
Can someone clarify something for me. This whole tournament business, does that mean the elimination tag match between the Wyatts and Taker and Kane has now been shelved?
I mean how can you have a tournament to crown a champion and not include Wyatt in there and for that matter Taker given the whole event is being billed as his 25th anniversary?
I for one wouldn't mind seeing Taker (or Sting) lifting the belt come the end of the night. Sure it would make no fucking sense given the beating he just took from Lesnar but didn't Austin win the belt off The Rock after a beating from Triple H at the previous PPV?
I think the whole event should be tournament matches and the obligatory WWE title match.
I for one would tune into that from start to finish with intrigue as opposed to just playing it in the background and tuning in as and when my main match is on.
Your average Network Special has 7-8 matches.
So that would mean an 8 person tournament if it was only tournament matches. They did a 14 person tourny back in 98, but that was in the era of 4 minute matches. Don't see that today.
My guess is WWE will start with 8 guys on RAW, but have the Final 4 on the Network Special. That allows them to have other matches like a tag title match, a Divas title match, and whatever they had planned for the Wyatts to make it a more compete show. I guess they could always make it a 4 hour show. But don't know if that's possible with such short notice.
Simple Fan
11-06-2015, 05:07 PM
If the tournament wasn't the plan could do a regular survivor series elimination match without teams. Sole survivor wins the WWE title.
Jazzy Foot
11-06-2015, 05:31 PM
Is there any viability to pushing the Undertaker into the title picture given the list of absentees?
What about Sting?
And the likelihood Cena and Lesnar would be returning in time?
Simple Fan
11-06-2015, 05:47 PM
Wouldn't mind Taker if Bray was the one to beat him for the title, but rewriting the Wyatt situation at the moment would be rough. That was about the only storyline going that I was actually interested in.
Shisen Kopf
11-06-2015, 06:03 PM
What's David Arquette up to these days?
ClockShot
11-06-2015, 06:11 PM
Only one way to determine how to do this................
Put the entire roster in a Royal Rumble sim match on WWE 2k16 and see how it plays out. Then creative can take it from there.
Theo Dious
11-06-2015, 06:23 PM
Only one way to determine how to do this................
Put the entire roster in a Royal Rumble sim match on WWE 2k16 and see how it plays out. Then creative can take it from there.
Isn't how they booked the last 3 Rumbles?
Cesaro needs to finish Top 4 for sure, and give him an upset win over someone like Randy Orton in the quarters.... So easy to make stars in a tournament if done correctly....
http://i.imgur.com/22GYm8C.jpg
Tom Guycott
11-06-2015, 06:28 PM
Man, this is a killer. Just laying out the current situation, we have:
Brock Lesnar - not around
John Cena - not around
Daniel Bryan - injured
Randy Orton - injured
Sting - assumed injured
Rusev - injured
Undertaker - occupied
Kane - occupied
Bray Wyatt - occupied
Luke Harper - occupied
Erick Rowan - occupied
Braun Strowman - occupied
The New Day - probably occupied
Lucha Dragons - probably occupied
-
Possible Survivor Series field:
Roman Reigns
Dean Ambrose
Sheamus
King Barrett
Alberto Del Rio
Jack Swagger
Dolph Ziggler
Kevin Owens
Ryback
Cesaro
R-Truth
Tyler Breeze
Usos
Fuck me. I don't want to come off negative, but that looks like such a weak field. Hopefully they inject some life into it, but going back to Sheamus or Del Rio as top heels to carry things after the last 5 years of strong pushes and miserable failures really doesn't feel like the way to go at a time when ratings and house shows are already below par.
Their own fault. The whole "I'm bored now" thing has hampered pushing newer talent to the realm of credible threats. Some of that list on the bottom (and frankly, some of that top list as well :coughBRAYWYATTchough: )shouldn't be viewed as weak as they currently are.
Theo Dious
11-06-2015, 06:30 PM
Is this the first time Vacant is both Florida Heavyweight and WWE World Heavyweight Champions?
He is also TNA champ but I don't blame you for forgetting, they are barely a company.
Holy fucking shit...
So basically Jay Lethal is the top wrestling champion in the world? :eek:
What's David Arquette up to these days?
He's sober these days, so he won't go for it.
Theo Dious
11-06-2015, 06:34 PM
Not going to happen, but can you imagine how insane the crowd would go for
http://i.imgur.com/I4GLIOk.gif
Wish there were an actual chance of that, but hey, a guy can dream.
Wrestling fans who weren't even watching at the time would cum in their pants.
That would be a great way to open the show. Advertise a "mystery entrant" to give a nod to how the Undertaker came in. Then similar to how the Rock's intro as the guest host for WM went, you dim the lights and play some incidental music for about 15 seconds then very slowly bring up a whole shitload of red, white, and blue lighting, hit a BOOM BOOM BOOM with the pyro, five seconds of silence and dark, cue music. Angle wins the title at the end of the night and all true beleiving wrestling fans are taken in the Rapture.
Maluco
11-06-2015, 06:41 PM
Just the Semis on PPV would be so weak. This should be massive news and the focus of the whole night. Everything should revolve around this tournament now.
They should build up having to win 3 matches in one night and focus on that
Taker and Bray can still have their match and you can have Divas on the pre-show.
That is still only 8 matches on the main card, less if someone gets a bye because of shenanigans
ClockShot
11-06-2015, 06:42 PM
Isn't how they booked the last 3 Rumbles?
Nah. That's ESPN's method of determining things. Running Super Bowl outcomes through Madden and such.
Maluco
11-06-2015, 06:46 PM
Ambrose battles through a harder draw (Del Rio, then Kevin Owens) after getting injured by the armbreaker in his first match.
Reigns looks fresh against a bandaged up and exhausted Ambrose in the final. Spear sends ref sprawling, Ambrose looks like he will get the win after dirty deeds, HHH appears with chair, Reigns beats Ambrose down, ref comes to for the 3.
You make Reigns the top heel and Ambrose gets all the sympathy in the world for his struggles on the night.
To give it that epic feel it all needs to happen on the one night.
Simple Fan
11-06-2015, 06:52 PM
Nah. That's ESPN's method of determining things. Running Super Bowl outcomes through Madden and such.
WWE and ESPN are awful cheeky these days.
Not going to happen, but can you imagine how insane the crowd would go for
http://i.imgur.com/I4GLIOk.gif
Wish there were an actual chance of that, but hey, a guy can dream.
Could only be topped by http://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lox8lw62ig1qkiqdko1_500.gif
Simple Fan
11-06-2015, 06:54 PM
That wouldn't top Kurt. No way.
That wouldn't top Kurt. No way.
I think it would. Everyone sees Kurt getting back in the WWE in some way, shape or form. If Cult of Personality hit though...
Theo Dious
11-06-2015, 06:57 PM
That wouldn't top Kurt. No way.
Not by a longshot.
Jazzy Foot
11-06-2015, 09:27 PM
Wouldn't mind Taker if Bray was the one to beat him for the title, but rewriting the Wyatt situation at the moment would be rough. That was about the only storyline going that I was actually interested in.
I just think given the unfortunate timing of Rollins' injury, just axe all other storylines and focus on this tournament. Given it revolves around Taker's 25th anniversary why not make him the focus and have hm win the title "against all odds". If Lesnar can't be involved then have him beat Wyatt for the title or even Sting to make people totally mark the fuck out.
Or to keep the Wyatt feud burning, have Wyatt cost him the title or him help Sheamus to cash in etc. We'd remember it for both the good and bad; Taker winning the WWE title for probably the last time on the show he made his debut and losing it (for the last time) on the same night.
Jazzy Foot
11-06-2015, 09:27 PM
Somehow I can't see Sting winning it on a PPV celebrating the one man people have longed for him to have a rivalry with......unless........
DAMN iNATOR
11-06-2015, 09:33 PM
Wrestling fans who weren't even watching at the time would cum in their pants.
That would be a great way to open the show. Advertise a "mystery entrant" to give a nod to how the Undertaker came in. Then similar to how the Rock's intro as the guest host for WM went, you dim the lights and play some incidental music for about 15 seconds then very slowly bring up a whole shitload of red, white, and blue lighting, hit a BOOM BOOM BOOM with the pyro, five seconds of silence and dark, cue music. Angle wins the title at the end of the night and all true beleiving wrestling fans are taken in the Rapture.
Yeah, I know. :( Just bought old, used copy of WWF Unforgiven 2001, which saw him defeat Austin for the WWF Championship in Pittsburgh, PA, and his family stormed the ring along with the guys in the back to celebrate with him. I'd be lying if I said I didn't get a little (*SIGH* OK, DAMMIT A LOT) misty-eyed at that scene, even if it probably was done in the wave of super-hyper-ultra-mega-über American patriotism (which I have no problem with, BTW...USA #1!) after 9/11 (The event was held 9/23/2001).
He is also TNA champ but I don't blame you for forgetting, they are barely a company.
I think that "Florida Heavyweight Champion" thing flew straight over your head.
Savio
11-08-2015, 11:24 AM
I guess so?
Savio
11-08-2015, 11:27 AM
Could only be topped by http://i.imgur.com/9Sjc4f4.gif
Taz should win the WWE Title with a T-Bone Suplex on Bray Wyatt:roll:
Outsider
11-08-2015, 07:52 PM
I can see them holding off on Reigns so he can get his 'Wrestlemania Moment' of winning his first title. Don't think there is any chance of them turning him heel though. Lets face it, if there is one thing the WWE has proved over the years is they have no problem pushing a 'top face' who gets a lot of boos.
Bray Wyatt would be the obvious choice, if they hadn't spent ages making him look weak. Excellent booking there...
I think the fact we're only two months out from the Rumble means they may be more likely to go with an established 'interim' champ, someone like Kane perhaps. Unless they can get Cena or Lesnar back early.
I think the one thing we can agree on is this is an excellent chance to make some new stars, and a chance there is zero chance of the WWE taking.
Simple Fan
11-08-2015, 08:45 PM
Agreed Outsider, Cesaro, Wyatt, Ambrose, and Ryback could really use this time to grab the brass ring so to speak. Just hope something interesting comes from this and not Roman Reigns forced WWE WHC push.
parkmania
11-08-2015, 09:06 PM
Well, if they plan on doing qualifying matches on Raw this week and this week only, there's EXTREMELY little chance of Cena being involved. He's slated to guest-host Today on NBC in New York City Monday morning. Today ends at 9am Eastern. It's a minimum 6.5 hour flight from NYC to London, where Raw is being held. That would land him at approximately 4pm Eastern, or 9pm GMT (assuming 30 minutes to get from the studio to the airport, and get the plane in the air). It's POSSIBLE that Cena gets the main event slot for his match, giving him maybe 45 minutes to get to get from Manchester Airport to the arena (a 19 minute drive according to Google) and get warmed up.
So I think in all likelyhood he's out.
I for one will miss interaction like this
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And of course <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/0dF50jPZdLs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
The four of them just played off each other amazingly well .
FourFifty
11-09-2015, 12:54 AM
Considering WWE had Cactus Jack, Mankind, and Dude Love in the same Royal Rumble one year, I would love to see Kane and Demon Kane in the tournament.
and at the end, the winner faces Triple H for the title.
The new WWE World Heavyweight Champions
http://orig01.deviantart.net/850c/f/2014/139/4/4/big_e_wwe_world_heavyweight_champion_by_undertaker02-d7j0pl9.png
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SSXAdDdey0M/hqdefault.jpg http://orig12.deviantart.net/e4d8/f/2015/080/b/8/xavier_woods_wwe_champion_by_theinteligent-d8mlycz.png
:(
#1-norm-fan
11-09-2015, 02:17 AM
Needs unicorn custom plates.
Sandow :(
https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/b3bc9b5de95e92910730aab4f5792ad9/13040%20-%20damien_sandow%20wwe%20wwf_championship.jpg
R-Truth had so much potential with overtly racial gimmick
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/001/919/244/r-truth-wwe-champion-jcity_crop_north.png?w=333&h=400&q=75
Sepholio
11-09-2015, 03:11 PM
Wyatt has to be in this thing. I just can't believe they would really go with the 4-on-2 match with Wyatts v Brothers of Destruction. No matter what happens in that the Wyatts look weaker. Now if they made it 3-on-2 while Bray was off in the tournament....that would make more sense.
Simple Fan
11-09-2015, 03:13 PM
I don't even see why Taker and Kane would be in a match with the Wyatt's. Much rather they join them.
Evil Vito
11-09-2015, 03:46 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Tournament brackets...includes the first matchup already filled in from tonight's Raw but who cares, it's obvious:</font>
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTZTO4jVAAApgSB.jpg
Simple Fan
11-09-2015, 03:50 PM
No Wyatt, I guess they're going with the Wyatt's vs Taker and Kane, ugh.
Shadrick
11-09-2015, 03:53 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Tournament brackets...includes the first matchup already filled in from tonight's Raw but who cares, it's obvious:</font>
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTZTO4jVAAApgSB.jpg
Roman Vs Sheamus and then Del Rio Vs Ryback. Other side will be Owens Vs Neville, Then Ziggler Vs Ambrose.
From that it'll be Roman Vs Del Rio and then Owens Vs Ambrose.
Then Roman Vs Ambrose.
Then.....THAT'S ALL, WE'RE OUT OF TIME!
Big Vic
11-09-2015, 03:59 PM
Ugh, can't we have Cesaro job to Roman instead of Sheamus?
Droford
11-09-2015, 04:06 PM
I'd do..
Roman vs Cesaro
Del Rio vs Ryback
Ziggler vs Tyler breeze
Owens vs Barrett
Cesaro vs Del Rio
Owens vs Ziggler
Owens vs Cesaro
Damian Rey
11-09-2015, 04:11 PM
Ziggler likely costing Breeze there after the opposite happens, though I'd rather they just keep those guys out of the tourney.
I'm guessing Reigns and Owens will headline in the finals.
Simple Fan
11-09-2015, 04:17 PM
Stardust, Neville, Breeze, Kalisto, and Titus should not be in this tournament. WWE had a chance to do something with this tournament but from the looks of it its just the Roman Reigns Tournament.
Big Vic
11-09-2015, 04:24 PM
Look at the first deadly games Tourny, it had Al Snow and Xpac.
Simple Fan
11-09-2015, 04:32 PM
At least it had some star power in it, only way I'll be shocked with this is if Reigns or Ambrose don't win.
Big Vic
11-09-2015, 04:34 PM
Kalisto is going all the way, bank on it.
Simple Fan
11-09-2015, 04:41 PM
Titus shouldn't be in it but I could go with him winning the whole thing and starting a singles push.
Ultra Mantis
11-09-2015, 04:49 PM
You'd go with starting a singles push by having a low level tag team guy win the World title?
The CyNick
11-09-2015, 05:03 PM
Too bad they couldn't get some part timers in there to increase star power. Some of those guys involved are shocking but when you the guys out that WWE does its tough. If Kalisto and Titus were replaced by Cena and Orton, it would make a big difference.
Interesting that Roman and Cesaro seem to be destined to meet. If that's on SurvSer that's a tough opening fight for Reigns, because you know a good portion of the crowd will be very pro Cesaro. Makes me think Reigns is turning heel. But we'll see. If there's any funny business in the Reigns-Cesaro match, you know Reigns is turning.
My guess is Owens or Ambrose on the other side. Just a matter of if they want Reigns to win clean or he's meant to turn.
Damian Rey
11-09-2015, 05:38 PM
I would be floored of Ambrose won. Absolutely floored.
Rammsteinmad
11-09-2015, 05:52 PM
I'll be floored if Breeze beats Ambrose, which I can see happening due to some outside interference. It'll be his debut match, right?
#1-norm-fan
11-09-2015, 06:03 PM
Titus O'Neill vs Kalisto finals, please.
#1-norm-fan
11-09-2015, 06:14 PM
I can actually see Cesaro going over Sheamus. Cesaro has been a jobber and Sheamus is Mr. MITB. So naturally they'll wanna make the jobber look strong and the guy who is likely to be world champion soon look weak. WWE logic and such.
#1-norm-fan
11-09-2015, 06:22 PM
I'll be floored if Breeze beats Ambrose, which I can see happening due to some outside interference. It'll be his debut match, right?
The fact that him and Ziggler would match up in the next round is the only thing that makes me think it's possible.
But I can't see anyone but Ambrose ending up in the finals from the right side of the bracket. Nothing else really makes sense. Can't imagine them seriously trying to pass anyone else off on that side as a serious threat to Reigns.
Damian Rey
11-09-2015, 06:34 PM
Owens? Only because he's a heel and, let's face it, when's the last time Ambrose won when it counted?
#1-norm-fan
11-09-2015, 06:44 PM
I think the fact that he's already IC champ works against him. And I don't think they see him as that level where he can be credible as a challenge to Reigns. Ambrose has been in the title picture pretty often over the past year or so and is "main event ready".
Lock Jaw
11-09-2015, 06:49 PM
Where did those brackets come from... don't see it on WWE.com
Why isn't Roman Reigns getting a bye to the semifinals at the least?
The CyNick
11-09-2015, 09:59 PM
So looks like only Semis and Finals will be at Survivor Series
Stickman
11-10-2015, 09:45 AM
Judging by the tournament brackets it will be Reigns vs Ambrose for the belt. Maybe Barrett instead of Ambrose because they like face vs heal. I wouldn't be surprised by a Shamus cash in at some point either.
Predictable?
Big Vic
11-10-2015, 09:50 AM
Semis will be Reigns vs ADR, Owens vs Ambrose.
Shadrick
11-10-2015, 09:51 AM
i called it
The CyNick
11-10-2015, 11:38 AM
I'm going to say Reigns vs Ryback and Owens vs Ambrose.
Swagger will cost ADR his match and that way they can have a US title match at Survivor Series.
Droford
11-10-2015, 12:06 PM
Why isn't Roman Reigns getting a bye to the semifinals at the least?
Because he wouldn't be HHHs man.
Because he wouldn't be HHHs man.
Well yeah I have also watched Raw since that comment :lol:
Exyle
11-10-2015, 01:01 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fP29A_yij08" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
:'(
The CyNick
11-10-2015, 02:12 PM
Looks to me like they are setting it up for Reigns to get booed.
He likely gets booed on Monday V Cesaro.
If he's up against Ryback at SurvSer theres a chance the crowd goes with Ryback. Then if Ambrose ends up in the Finals, Reigns will definitely be booed. There you have his justification for turning. Next night on RAW he can talk about how he did the right thing, didn't sell out, but the people still turned on him week after week. So he figured he might as well do what's right for himself.
I feel like Reigns as a heel opens the door for a lot of matches down the road (Ambrose, Lesnar, Rollins when he's back, Cena).
Big Vic
11-10-2015, 02:28 PM
Hey don't count out Kalisto, if Reigns goes against Kalisto he will definitely be boo'd.
The CyNick
11-10-2015, 02:35 PM
And everyone loves an underdog story
Simple Fan
11-10-2015, 02:38 PM
Reigns doesn't need to be set up to get booed. The guy sucks and has no charisma and WWE pushes him that's why he get booed. A heel turn would do wonders for him though.
Rammsteinmad
11-10-2015, 03:12 PM
Cesaro is "trending" right now, or whatever it's called on Facebook. I feel sorry for him. :(
Big Vic
11-10-2015, 03:14 PM
Cesaro is "trending" right now, or whatever it's called on Facebook. I feel sorry for him. :(
Hmm, he's getting to over, time to bury him.
The CyNick
11-10-2015, 03:36 PM
Reigns doesn't need to be set up to get booed. The guy sucks and has no charisma and WWE pushes him that's why he get booed. A heel turn would do wonders for him though.
But if you put him in a situation to encourage the booing, then you get more than just the 15% smark crowd booing. The other fans will catch on. Boom you got an effective heel.
Simple Fan
11-10-2015, 03:50 PM
I get what your saying just have no hope in Roman Reigns ever being entertaining. A heel run is his only hope.
Maluco
11-10-2015, 03:53 PM
But if you put him in a situation to encourage the booing, then you get more than just the 15% smark crowd booing. The other fans will catch on. Boom you got an effective heel.
Yeah, this. It is actually really good booking on this occasion. Making sure of the boos means they can count on the night playing out as they planned. The best heels are always those that have a hint of truth in what they say and the fans hate them for it.
A bitter, violent Reigns or a cocky, sold out Reigns would both be much better for him and he can be used as a top heel and sold pretty much instantly as one. So many more combos in this situation too.
A Lesnar rumble win would set up the match they want too, which I think fans would go crazy for.
Big Vic
11-10-2015, 04:22 PM
Rather see Lesnar fight someone else, Roman vs Dean II please.
Mr. Nerfect
11-10-2015, 07:16 PM
Lol at CyNick.
Mr. Nerfect
11-10-2015, 07:18 PM
The tournament is going pretty much as I predicted. The only thing I had changed in my head was Owens going earlier to set up an IC Title match at Survivor Series, and to avoid the "secondary champs both lose in the semis" dynamic they're heading towards. But it's not terrible and was my first gut instinct about the whole thing.
I'm actually feeling the Reigns heel turn. If they put Reigns over cleanly, I'm just going to laugh though.
Savio
11-10-2015, 10:33 PM
Kalisto is going all the way, bank on it.
Kalisto Beats Ryback on smackdown :cool:
#1-norm-fan
11-11-2015, 05:36 AM
Yeah, this. It is actually really good booking on this occasion.
It's good booking if they plan on it ending with him being jaded and turning heel.
If they don't and they actually want to keep trying with him as a face, having Cesaro pull off the upset against Sheamus and then making Reigns be the man that puts an end to his tournament run is retarded.
Considering their track record, I'm leaning toward the later.
#BROKEN Hasney
11-11-2015, 06:24 AM
Roman V Dean final would be cool, with the winner taking a shortcut and teasing becoming heel kind of like what they did with Neville on NXT.
Probably just do it hamfisted and have the loser turn immediately and setup a Sheamus cashin though.
Remember this rumor?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uIE6n7NOcXM/maxresdefault.jpg
Maluco
11-11-2015, 11:34 AM
It's good booking if they plan on it ending with him being jaded and turning heel.
If they don't and they actually want to keep trying with him as a face, having Cesaro pull off the upset against Sheamus and then making Reigns be the man that puts an end to his tournament run is retarded.
Considering their track record, I'm leaning toward the later.
Well yeah, obviously if that is the way it plans out. If Reigns wins as a face after plowing through a few fan favourites, it is a disaster.
Big Vic
11-11-2015, 11:38 AM
"The crowd loves Cesaro, if Reigns beats Cesaro cleanly the crowd will love him!"
Rammsteinmad
11-11-2015, 12:16 PM
If WWE totally swerve/shock us and have Cesaro go on and win the tournament clean, I will never, ever say a bad thing about WWE again.
I won't even mention them screwing up Ryback.
Evil Vito
11-11-2015, 12:23 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Hell even Cesaro winning dirty and becoming the new suit-wearing corporate heel would be fine with me. Anything that puts Cesaro in a prominent role is good for me.
If you don't like Cesaro, you're a retard.</font>
Simple Fan
11-11-2015, 01:45 PM
That would be great. Cesaro joining the Authority to beat Roman Reigns but guarantee they have Reigns go over him clean.
SlickyTrickyDamon
11-11-2015, 01:50 PM
I think the field is good. Makes it sort of seem there is no clear cut front runner. There is a front runner but it's a good distraction from that there are so many good wrestlers in the tournament who haven't had a fair shake.
SlickyTrickyDamon
11-11-2015, 01:51 PM
Remember this rumor?
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uIE6n7NOcXM/maxresdefault.jpg
Yeah but only Ryan Clark thinks rumors are anything worth a shit.
Sepholio
11-11-2015, 02:41 PM
Ambrose is gonna be HHHs man.
Simple Fan
11-11-2015, 02:48 PM
Probably and I'm sure he'll be great in the role but the dude is great as a face. Roman needs the turn but I don't know if they want to pull the trigger on that one. Ambrose just doesn't seem like the sell out type though.
Lock Jaw
11-11-2015, 02:54 PM
Dean Ambrose could easily go heel.... remember, this was the last guy that any of us thought would have been so over as a solo face.... everyone thought it was going to be him going heel, but then it ended up being Rollins.
Simple Fan
11-11-2015, 02:58 PM
Yeah, I know but just feel like Ambrose has that Stone Cold factor to him where people can relate to him. It could be done but his character is so great as a face I couldn't see him as a sell out chicken shit heel hiding behind HHH. Just feel like Roman or even Cesaro could use a heel turn.
#1-norm-fan
11-11-2015, 06:19 PM
Well yeah, obviously if that is the way it plans out. If Reigns wins as a face after plowing through a few fan favourites, it is a disaster.
Not just any face... They put him in position to go over literally the one guy that the specific audience they want on his side would be pissed about the most. lol
Mr. Nerfect
11-14-2015, 07:01 PM
If WWE totally swerve/shock us and have Cesaro go on and win the tournament clean, I will never, ever say a bad thing about WWE again.
I won't even mention them screwing up Ryback.
I'm actually thinking this might happen. Maybe I've finally lost it?
Cesaro as the new Authority sponsored Champion?
Ironically enough, my phone just autocorrected Cesaro to "creative".
#1-norm-fan
11-15-2015, 06:06 AM
I'm actually thinking this might happen. Maybe I've finally lost it?
You have. I blame reading too many CyNick posts.
Maluco
11-15-2015, 07:11 AM
I don't understand why they would turn Ambrose or Cesaro when they have momentum and are so over as fan favourites.
If they want to guarantee Reigns a prominent role, surely he is the one that has to turn, as he is the one they want on top the most, and is the one who has the most difficulty connectinh with the audience.
They need all the natural fan favourites they can get at the moment!
Mr. Nerfect
11-15-2015, 07:05 PM
Cesaro as the new Authority sponsored Champion?
I think he might win the tournament...but not the title.
SlickyTrickyDamon
11-15-2015, 08:37 PM
They should give Rollins more days as champion to match up with Survivor Series.
#1-norm-fan
11-15-2015, 09:20 PM
They should retroactively give whoever wins the tournament some of Rollins' days so we can pretend that horrible reign didn't last as long.
SlickyTrickyDamon
11-15-2015, 09:25 PM
If it's Owens I'm okay with that. He's been the MVP. Rollins had been the MVP months before he was the champion though so you have to add him some of Brock's time for being an absentee champion.
Shadrick
11-16-2015, 09:54 AM
The truth is, this tourney has the ability to be something much bigger than "wow this guy got far, a small push" with Roman ultimately winning, and turning heel.
Sadly, it'll probably be just that. Cesaro winning. Owens winning. Hell, anyone but Roman winning would be a nice swerve. But I doubt it.
Damian Rey
11-16-2015, 10:17 AM
If Roman turns heel, joins the authority and gives the shaft to Ambrose, it's instantly far more interesting than anything Roman's done post Shield.
It sets up an easy and new feud with Ambrose, which could lead to Ambrose v Hunter while Reigns goes into Mania as champion against whoever wins the Rumble, with my choice being Lesnar.
Heel Roman gets the benefit of getting the Authority to do his talking and can cut heel promos, which may come more naturally for him.
Big Vic
11-16-2015, 10:27 AM
I support Roman winning if he turns heel. Total zzz storyline if he wins and doesn't turn.
Mr. Nerfect
11-16-2015, 06:40 PM
I'd like for it to happen, but I bet the WWE is too stubborn.
The CyNick
11-16-2015, 07:23 PM
The truth is, this tourney has the ability to be something much bigger than "wow this guy got far, a small push" with Roman ultimately winning, and turning heel.
Sadly, it'll probably be just that. Cesaro winning. Owens winning. Hell, anyone but Roman winning would be a nice swerve. But I doubt it.
I know you're not alone in that belief, but I find it odd.
A lot of people on here criticize WWE for planning things out long term, but when they do, it seems like people still crap on it. Roman was probably pushed too quickly heading into 31, but they pumped the brakes, and have allowed him to simmer for the past 6 months or so. He had a long program with Wyatt, and he came off real strong in the blowoff at HIAC. So to me, just speaking as a fan of the TV show, I feel like it's his time.
I'm not trying to say Roman is the perfect guy to carry the company, but at the same time, he does have a lot of attributes you want in a world champion. He's unfortunately also lacking in one key one (talking), which may ultimately cripple him. But I still think its worth the chance to payoff this storyline.
I also think there's a lot of business in having the Finals come down to Ambrose and Reigns, because it allows WWE to really sell how strong The Shield was. Very similar to Evolution in that all three guys in the group became/were World Champions. And even better for The Shield because they came in fresh and now have all reached great heights. Will be interested to see how they handle Rollins coming back. I think they have an opportunity to reunite The Shield if Triple H has a new gang of guys in The Authority.
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