View Full Version : RAW - March 28th - The Road to WrestleMania/Prayer Circle
DAMN iNATOR
03-28-2016, 10:27 PM
Hell yeah, Snoop D-o-Double G, baby! :love::D:cool:
Droford
03-28-2016, 10:27 PM
Miz Star O
I fucking love Cody Rhodes' dedication to the Stardust character. He's so fucking underrated and laughed off by the commentators.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:27 PM
Kinda like Owen's theme as far as being a mean heel. Don't like very many themes tbh so that's saying something
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 10:28 PM
Just want to mosh to Owen's music for like an hour. Would be great exercise.
Droford
03-28-2016, 10:28 PM
I like how Ryder got a random match in the 1st hour nitvinvolved in this
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:28 PM
I don't think I've ever liked Snoop Dogg
how come? he's the friggin mang, mang
Huh?
http://s23.postimg.org/f65unamh7/Untitled.jpg
DAMN iNATOR
03-28-2016, 10:29 PM
Wonder if Snoop Dogg will light a doobie while accepting his award...
Nah, he'll be rollin' down the street, smokin' indo, sippin' on gin and juice while accepting it.
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 10:29 PM
Randos IC Title Invitational. God.....
I don't think I've ever liked Snoop Dogg
How can you not like "Snoop D O double G and I'm here to put this dick on you" :yes:
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 10:29 PM
Ziggler's music sounds so slow/bad after Zayn's
Droford
03-28-2016, 10:30 PM
So Ryder winning the IC title at WM would make amends for the rest of the show with the internet, right?
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 10:30 PM
I like how Ryder got a random match in the 1st hour nitvinvolved in this
Somewhere, Mojo is crying.
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 10:30 PM
how come? he's the friggin mang, mang
he's been a caricature of himself pretty much his entire career... idk. annoying
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 10:31 PM
just checking in to see how everyone is enjoying 3 hours of promos, recaps and 24-person tag match clusters. Good?
updated
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:31 PM
Zayn is in "good shape" like I am being nit picky here, but he needs to hit some pullups/deadlifts. His back is like non existent
DAMN iNATOR
03-28-2016, 10:31 PM
So Ryder winning the IC title at WM would make amends for the rest of the show with the internet, right?
Too bad Hell will probably freeze over first.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:32 PM
Maggel Hayes
Droford
03-28-2016, 10:32 PM
Dolph should start calling himself Mr Wrestlemania II
Ruien
03-28-2016, 10:32 PM
http://s23.postimg.org/f65unamh7/Untitled.jpg
Haha. I remember 0 from 2011. Why is that still even on your rep sheet?
I like how Ryder got a random match in the 1st hour nitvinvolved in this
Well he has to look viable (somewhat) when he jobs at Mania.
Droford
03-28-2016, 10:33 PM
Too bad Hell will probably freeze over first.
See him winning before Stardust or Miz tbh
Triple A
03-28-2016, 10:33 PM
Are they ever going to announce NXT has a show Friday on the Network..feel like there has been ZERO promotion on RAW for it...which is super dumb because it's the best NXT card ever
They briefly mentioned it once I think
Wyatts nothing without Luke Harper.
Seriously though, pretty bummed about it. Bray is such a great character. One of the most fun and original thats come up in a while. Crowd organically getting into him with the unprompted "fireflies." Whatever. Rambling promo. Attack. Lose at PPV. Repeat for 12 months.
Word is that Bray has a back injury, hence why Luke Harper had to walk into Suplex City on a solo mission.
Without Harper they're going to need to recruit someone new to do the donkey work cause neither Rowan nor Strowman are up to it.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:33 PM
Ziggler and Stardust need to have a tag team and they can be Ziggy Stardust. I'm sure someone has said that but fuck you I'm great
Haha. I remember 0 from 2011. Why is that still even on your rep sheet?
It would appear that my contributions between the end of 2011 and the end of 2015 were very minimal.
Ziggler and Stardust need to have a tag team and they can be Ziggy Stardust. I'm sure someone has said that but fuck you I'm great
This is like the time Noid suggested a tag team of Heath Slater and Zack Ryder with Kelly Kelly as manager.
Outsider
03-28-2016, 10:35 PM
I suppose we should just be glad we haven't had a Strowman match tonight. Realizing that just makes the rest of the show better.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:36 PM
This is like the time Noid suggested a tag team of Heath Slater and Zack Ryder with Kelly Kelly as manager.
It took me a minute to figure it out, but that would be fucking brilliant
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 10:37 PM
HEY MAGGLE it's not "barCLAY" center...
I suppose we should just be glad we haven't had a Strowman match tonight. Realizing that just makes the rest of the show better.
Right now someone is telling Vince how great it would be if Strowman vs Mark Henry main events tonight. And it will all be your fault!
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 10:38 PM
aaaaaaannnnnnndd the crowd has been lost.
The crowd being a b-word and chanting "CM PUNK".
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:39 PM
no urgency tonight from the company. Roster unfocused, nobody gives a FUCK.
Mania I think will probably still be good.
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 10:39 PM
why is crowd "shitting on" this match? idk
Droford
03-28-2016, 10:40 PM
This is like the time Noid suggested a tag team of Heath Slater and Zack Ryder with Kelly Kelly as manager.
Only compete in 10 minute time limit matches that go the full 10 minutes
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 10:40 PM
Chanting for RVD.... crowd now terrible.
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 10:41 PM
Always find it strange that the announcers never look up from their notes or monitors even though the action is 10 feet away from them. I mean, I get that they have to pay attention to whats being shown so they can call it from the viewers perspective, but it has to take away from the broadcast being seen in a vacuum.
Triple A
03-28-2016, 10:41 PM
lol @ rvd chant
I suspect we're going to have a lot of Punk chants when Steph and her husband come back out
Ruien
03-28-2016, 10:41 PM
Amazing match. Why crap over it? Had a ton of their segments/matches that blew ass. Owens and Stardust are both being brilliant as usual.
Emperor Smeat
03-28-2016, 10:41 PM
:lol: Owens antics
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:41 PM
Well it's been a long night. Just culminating here. This is a throwaway nothing match, as a vehicle for a match that is just going to "happen" at mania regardless with lots of spots. Why should they care?
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 10:42 PM
lmao did you hear Stardust there when he did that apron move.... sounded like a monkey
Triple A
03-28-2016, 10:42 PM
Well it's been a long night. Just culminating here. This is a throwaway nothing match, as a vehicle for a match that is just going to "happen" at mania regardless with lots of spots. Why should they care?
:y:
why is crowd "shitting on" this match? idk
It seems strange but this crowd has sat through a Superstars, Main Event and Smackdown taping on top of what's been a fairly terrible Raw.
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 10:43 PM
Yeah, crowd probably just "indifferent" to multi-man match and "standard" 6-man tag to build to it....
They are getting periodically excited about the match.... just having fun on the side....
Except for chanting for RVD, which is terrible.
Outsider
03-28-2016, 10:43 PM
Amazing match. Why crap over it? Had a ton of their segments/matches that blew ass. Owens and Stardust are both being brilliant as usual.
Think the decision to go rouge had less to do with this match and more to do with the rest of the show.
Just a shame that it happened during this of all the matches.
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 10:43 PM
oh good, another commercial break
and another Authority promo to look forward to
no wonder the fans are losing interest...
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 10:44 PM
I think I get it now... they've just reached boiling point
maybe don't have your best segment in the first 10 minutes of the night idk
Outsider
03-28-2016, 10:45 PM
Don't forget we've still got a HHH segment to go.
Must be something big to close the show, but with hardly any time hard to see what they will do.
But it'll probably be bollocks.
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 10:45 PM
Well it's been a long night. Just culminating here. This is a throwaway nothing match, as a vehicle for a match that is just going to "happen" at mania regardless with lots of spots. Why should they care?
This.
Like I said tongue-in-cheek....3 hours of promos, recaps of promos and 64 man tag matches. Combined with the crowd having to start with Smackdown and Main Event matches, they've seen nothing but filler tonight. And they know it.
Droford
03-28-2016, 10:45 PM
This is booty
Cody Rhodes looks quite upset.
Emperor Smeat
03-28-2016, 10:46 PM
why is crowd "shitting on" this match? idk
Crowd's acting odd but seems more like they are doing the random chants for fun and less for "shitting" on the match. Like whenever there is a lull or non-big spot, they throw in a random chant or two and then go right back to cheering for what's happening in the ring.
Except for right now since it seems like they are finally bored.
DAMN iNATOR
03-28-2016, 10:46 PM
HAHAHA, crowd getting creative with loud "THIS IS BOOTY!" chants. :lol:
Mania I think will probably still be good.
I agree
the build is worse than last year, and last year ended up being a really, really good WM imo
Droford
03-28-2016, 10:46 PM
Pre WM RAW crowd wants to be a thing like post WM RAW crowd
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 10:47 PM
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duh duh duh duh duh
Volare
03-28-2016, 10:47 PM
THIS IS BOOTY!! Lmao
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:47 PM
Stephanie expositions will likely be through the roof. Just deleted in my in quotations "impressions" of her expositions because they won't be funny... but I'll have you know they were there.
Triple A
03-28-2016, 10:47 PM
crowd is the only good part of this entire raw
really glad they are just chanting random shit instead of just sitting there silently
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 10:47 PM
Crowd seems into it whenever Sami Zayn gets in there..... If this was just a Zayn/Owens segment they prob would have been all over it
Droford
03-28-2016, 10:47 PM
I really wish This was just Owens vs Sami
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 10:48 PM
crowd is the only good part of this entire raw
really glad they are just chanting random shit instead of just sitting there silently
disagree with this heavily
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:48 PM
the problem with Mania is it just ignores most of the build. The pretty much can just announce the matches the week before and people will watch because it's Mania.
Droford
03-28-2016, 10:48 PM
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duh duh duh duh duh
Big Boss Lady
Too bad that's sort of already taken
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 10:48 PM
Who said Raw has been blah but WM will still probably be ok? I agree with that. God I hope so. Might be cancelling my script to the network after the Raw after WM if things look booty.
DAMN iNATOR
03-28-2016, 10:49 PM
disagree with this heavily
Same. I think it's actually been halfway decent for once.
Ruien
03-28-2016, 10:50 PM
Haha Owens is awesome.
Droford
03-28-2016, 10:50 PM
"You think you're special?"
/cue limp bizkit
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:50 PM
definitely into Zayn.
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 10:50 PM
"You think you're special?"
/cue limp bizkit
lol I was thinking Radiohead myself
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 10:51 PM
And Sami Zayn pins Kevin Owens for the first time in random tag team match on RAW
Could have been "built up" to be a yuge moment....
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 10:51 PM
You know Kevin Dunn and Vince are in the back blaming the crowd on Sami even though him and Owens are the only ones the crowd cares about.
DAMN iNATOR
03-28-2016, 10:51 PM
Who said Raw has been blah but WM will still probably be ok? I agree with that. God I hope so. Might be cancelling my script to the network after the Raw after WM if things look booty.
You'd probably be missing a bunch of NXT talent getting their post-WM call-ups then. Just sayin'.
Triple A
03-28-2016, 10:51 PM
Hope the crowd does an RVD chant and does the wave throughout Triple H's promo
Hopefully the crowd has a little more juice in them for the next Trips monologue
I said it in the Last RAW THREAD Zayn v Owens could carry a match themselves they don't need 15 other people.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-28-2016, 10:52 PM
Sami's first pin on Kevin Owens in WWE....In a six man tag team match before WrestleMania...
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 10:53 PM
there is no way this ending segment is going to be good
please prove me wrong
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 10:53 PM
And Sami Zayn pins Kevin Owens for the first time in random tag team match on RAW
Could have been "built up" to be a yuge moment....
yeah....they would have had a great story and match at WM. Too bad they feel the need to shoehorn a gimmick or 12 others into every match.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:53 PM
they definitely wrote the majority of this RAW minus I guess the main angles on a napkin in the washroom of a denny's.
The main stuff was done on some post it stickers lastnight over some chinese food and they probably thought it was like super groundbreaking and brilliant
Volare
03-28-2016, 10:53 PM
Not trying to sound like a dick......but I don't give a fuck, thank god Eva isn't taking a spot on the main show.
there is no way this ending segment is going to be good
please prove me wrong
Not letting them get a word in with CM Punk chants will do it for me.
DAMN iNATOR
03-28-2016, 10:54 PM
UGH. Not as hyped for the pre-show now. Was REALLY hoping they'd just have a nice long ATG Battle Royal as the one and only pre-show, but no, we get stuck with a 10-diva clusterfuck and the world's most boring tag team v. the "we're not a nostalgia act, except oh, wait, actually we are". :CRY:
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 10:54 PM
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duh duh duh duh duh
duh duh duh duh duh
duh duh duh duh duh
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-28-2016, 10:55 PM
Big Boss Lady
Too bad that's sort of already taken
So? Emma is known to steal. :shifty:
DAMN iNATOR
03-28-2016, 10:55 PM
there is no way this ending segment is going to be good
please prove me wrong
You don't like Triple H screaming about how great he is? THE FUCK'S WRONG WITH YOU?! :rant::shifty::shifty::shifty:
yeah....they would have had a great story and match at WM. Too bad they feel the need to shoehorn a gimmick or 12 others into every match.
Once again not even a difficult story to tell. Keep the IC Title on Owens, Sami Zayn debuts at the Rumble, eliminates Owen and we go from there. Could have had this ladder match at Fastlane if they wanted, then focus entirely on their however many year feud for the next weeks resulting in a grudge match at Wrestlemania that could have been this year's Rollins vs Orton.
However Ryback's getting a singles match instead...
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 10:57 PM
what exactly IS Total Divas
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 10:58 PM
what exactly IS Total Divas
"Reality" show about various WWE Divas' lives....
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 10:58 PM
You'd probably be missing a bunch of NXT talent getting their post-WM call-ups then. Just sayin'.
Nah, I can still watch Raw. Would hate to lose NxT, but I'm not looking forward to the next wave of ZZs and Josh Bindles.
Sami's first pin on Kevin Owens in WWE....In a six man tag team match before WrestleMania...
I know.....smh
there is no way this ending segment is going to be good
please prove me wrong
Oh, its gonna suck. I like HHH, but he's not a main draw. To be fair, I don't think they can do anything with the last 15 mins to saw anyone one way or another at this point.
Roman to wank his arm off in T-minus...
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-28-2016, 10:58 PM
UGH. Not as hyped for the pre-show now. Was REALLY hoping they'd just have a nice long ATG Battle Royal as the one and only pre-show, but no, we get stuck with a 10-diva clusterfuck and the world's most boring tag team v. the "we're not a nostalgia act, except oh, wait, actually we are". :CRY:
The Usos and the Wyatt's had some great contests for the tag team titles.
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 10:59 PM
soooooooo
another weak attempt by Rock to put Reigns over, maybe? I doubt it
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 10:59 PM
wow she needs to go away now
Triple A
03-28-2016, 10:59 PM
jesus christ
Its literally the same fucking promo HHH cut god damn.
Outsider
03-28-2016, 10:59 PM
Crowd just seems dead now :-\
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 11:00 PM
this promo sounds like it's a reaction to nothing at all
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 11:00 PM
In a perfect world:
Kevin Owens beats John Cena for the United States Title. Holds it until now. Sami Zayn debuts for grudge match and to take the title at WM.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:00 PM
o god wat a disaster lol
Droford
03-28-2016, 11:00 PM
"I don't care"
Neither does the crowd
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 11:00 PM
Is this a recap or are we doing this a 2nd time?
Locke
03-28-2016, 11:00 PM
Are they booing Roman Reigns
That's good if so
Triple A
03-28-2016, 11:00 PM
feel like I "can't believe this"
DAMN iNATOR
03-28-2016, 11:00 PM
Nah, I can still watch Raw. Would hate to lose NxT, but I'm not looking forward to the next wave of ZZs and Josh Bindles.
Sara Lee v. Eva Marie for the Divas' Championship @ WM 33 or GTFO. :shifty:
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 11:01 PM
can't believe this is the final thing we are seeing before Wrestlemania
Steph's taking a bump here
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 11:01 PM
this is so bad, even for a go home show.
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 11:02 PM
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THIS SUNDAY AT WRESTLEMANIA?!
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:02 PM
FART
Outsider
03-28-2016, 11:02 PM
You know what every good clusterfuck needs?
MORE CLUSTERFUCK.
Is this not a Royal Rumble go home end to Raw?
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 11:02 PM
oh the only way to make this even more exciting, the League of Nations!
Ruien
03-28-2016, 11:02 PM
Hell ya. Love huge brawls.
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 11:02 PM
Sara Lee v. Eva Marie for the Divas' Championship @ WM 33 or GTFO. :shifty:
Read that as "Stan Lee" at first and was like "Huh?"
pale imitation of Brock/Taker pull apart
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 11:03 PM
please fade to black.....ugh.....just cut your losses.
DAMN iNATOR
03-28-2016, 11:03 PM
Steph's taking a bump here
Doesn't she get enough of that from Trips off-air? HI-YO!
Ruien
03-28-2016, 11:03 PM
That was some serious hang time. Nice hops Reigns.
Going to go catch Gotham I couldn't take this anymore enjoy your WM gents.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:03 PM
this feels like wrestlemania 11
DAMN iNATOR
03-28-2016, 11:04 PM
please fade to black.....ugh.....just cut your losses.
Why's it gotta be BLACK?!
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 11:04 PM
Going to go watch Supergirl. Then maybe Gotham.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:04 PM
not enough tug of war
owenbrown
03-28-2016, 11:04 PM
Read that as "Stan Lee" at first and was like "Huh?"
93 year old Stan Lee would be a better fit at WM than Eva Marie
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 11:04 PM
Roman Reigns is a wank pheasant
road doggy dogg
03-28-2016, 11:04 PM
well that was depressingly bad
some bright spots on raw but a lot of filler/bad
Frank Drebin
03-28-2016, 11:04 PM
That was terrible.
Outsider
03-28-2016, 11:04 PM
Wow. That last segment was absolutely pointless. Just....why?
Roman stands tall to end RAW...
...Roman loses at WM then?
Fuck this company - that was terrible
And I live in Scotland folks
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-28-2016, 11:05 PM
The food better be good.
DAMN iNATOR
03-28-2016, 11:06 PM
The Usos and the Wyatt's had some great contests for the tag team titles.
To quote a certain someone who got the evening's first victory tonight, ARE YOU SERIOUS, BRO?!
Maluco
03-28-2016, 11:07 PM
Maybe it's all a big plan to get us 100% behind Shane and completely invested in that match so there can be done type of change!
Right!??
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 11:07 PM
Usos/Wyatts did have some great contests. Not sure why it is being brought up.... but yeah...
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:08 PM
I hate how Roman's music plays when he comes out to take on HHH. Like fuck off. So phony. And it's not good music either. I get when Austin or Rock ran in and their music hit, it was like EPIC fucking music, so you make the exception. But Roman has the most generic music, he doesn't need to be played in when he's running out to have a bar room brawl with someone. He's not entering the ring for a match, he's coming in to fucking batter a dude. So stupid.
Emperor Smeat
03-28-2016, 11:08 PM
Ending for tonight's RAW might be just as bad as last year's go home Mania show.
Lock Jaw
03-28-2016, 11:08 PM
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duh duh duh duh duh
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Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:10 PM
Shane (if he beats Undertaker, next night on RAW): My first decree as showrunner of RAW is to make the Extreme Rules Main Event.... Roman Reigns vs HHH in a rematch from wrestlemania because I give the people what they want!
Maluco
03-28-2016, 11:10 PM
Usos aren't boring cause of their matches, both guys are great athletes. Their problem is they haven't evolved at all since their debut. No character or personality whatsoever. No development, feuds, storylines etc... Nothing has defined them. Probably one of the biggest examples of what is wrong with the writing. They have been there for ages too
Emperor Smeat
03-28-2016, 11:12 PM
Roman stands tall to end RAW...
...Roman loses at WM then?
Don't think either guy got a real last laugh type moment tonight.
They somehow managed to have a Reigns standing tall moment, a Triple H standing tall moment, and a draw all happen in one show for the WWE title feud tonight.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:14 PM
It's kind of weird. You see all these guys with supposedly different gimmicks or "characters", different builds and different looks. And yet.... when you watch RAW, all of their matches look the same and all of their promos sound the same.
Maluco
03-28-2016, 11:14 PM
Reigns is the same thing. He still comes out to the Shield music and is so fake and phony. Where is the guys personality? Where is the reason to invest in him?
A guy like Kevin Owens should have had a serious feud with build going into Mania. He is so great and his reactions and personality shine through everything he does.
Yet this vacuum is main eventing and he is lost in some semi-jobber ladder match.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:15 PM
Reigns is the same thing. He still comes out to the Shield music and is so fake and phony. Where is the guys personality? Where is the reason to invest in him?
Unfortunately, these are the pitfalls of being a wank pheasant.
Roman's Shield attire, is the new generations answer to jorts.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:17 PM
And I think the worst part about all of this, is people try act like it's the "PG Era" that's killing the product. That's a load of shit. You can have compelling PG television. All PG-13 or 18A rating means is more blood and more swearing, which in itself can come across as hamfisted.
PG doesn't mean unfocused, careless and uncreative.
Maluco
03-28-2016, 11:17 PM
It's kind of weird. You see all these guys with supposedly different gimmicks or "characters", different builds and different looks. And yet.... when you watch RAW, all of their matches look the same and all of their promos sound the same.
They don't have that though, do they? The best put together feud is Jericho/AJ and it's not even that great. It looks obvious that Jericho just pieced it together to give them a reason to feud too.
The rest of the card is so contrived and force. The only history behind any feud is Owens/Zayn and that happened in other promotions.
It's like they don't have ideas for original feuds and they don't have any stories to tell us.
Another WM I feel very little interest in, but then again last year's show was really good. Let's see how it works out.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:19 PM
It's obvious the build no longer has anything to do with Wrestlemania which is sad in itself, but at least it means it has no baring on whether or not the show will be good.
Evil Vito
03-28-2016, 11:22 PM
I like how everybody seems to be surprised that a product that has been shit for months is still shit even going into the biggest show of the year.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:23 PM
They don't have that though, do they? The best put together feud is Jericho/AJ and it's not even that great. It looks obvious that Jericho just pieced it together to give them a reason to feud too.
The rest of the card is so contrived and force. The only history behind any feud is Owens/Zayn and that happened in other promotions.
It's like they don't have ideas for original feuds and they don't have any stories to tell us.
Yeah the Jericho AJ feud comes across as 2 veterans trying to navigate through some horrific writing.
Jericho's anger doesn't make any sense... I don't get why he's more angry about the chants than he is about losing the best 2/3 series. I also don't get when when he turned on AJ he hit codebreakers and didn't just kick the fuck out of Styles (tho I guess only HHH is allowed to beat up Roman badly). He could have locked in the Walls for 5 minutes or something. Don't get me started on the commentators' reaction when he turned on styles. They may as well have been calling a dark match on Shotgun Saturday Night.
This is a company going through the motions because they can, and it's not going to change any time soon.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:23 PM
I like how everybody seems to be surprised that a product that has been shit for months is still shit even going into the biggest show of the year.
Vito don't kid yourself, nobody is surprised. I think when watching it, it's still perplexing no matter what.
Maluco
03-28-2016, 11:26 PM
Not even fussy, I will buy into anything. Zayn/Owens story was written. Have Ryback bully Kalisto in backstage segments and build up the sympathy. Have LoN constantly one up New Day with number advantage, hinting that a special partner will help then out at Mania.
Have the Andre Battle Royal for an IC title shot at next PPV and have a few guys promo about what that would mean to them.
Hint at Lynch/Charlotte jealousy at Sascha's reactions and the potential for an alliance to take her out of the match at Mania.
Have HHH hesitate before doing something particularly heinous to Reigns....put some questions around the match and what could happen.
Should have gone all out with Brock and Ambrose since the Rumble. Blood feud with pull apart brawls and hints of real craziness at Mania.
None of that is perfect, but it is something and that is all people are asking for. Give people a reason to care about what's happening.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-28-2016, 11:26 PM
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Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:30 PM
Not even fussy, I will buy into anything. Zayn/Owens story was written. Have Ryback bully Kalisto in backstage segments and build up the sympathy. Have LoN constantly one up New Day with number advantage, hinting that a special partner will help then out at Mania.
Have the Andre Battle Royal for an IC title shot at next PPV and have a few guys promo about what that would mean to them.
Hint at Lynch/Charlotte jealousy at Sascha's reactions and the potential for an alliance to take her out of the match at Mania.
Have HHH hesitate before doing something particularly heinous to Reigns....put some questions around the match and what could happen.
Should have gone all out with Brock and Ambrose since the Rumble. Blood feud with pull apart brawls and hints of real craziness at Mania.
None of that is perfect, but it is something and that is all people are asking for. Give people a reason to care about what's happening.
I don't know if I'd say if this stuff is as bad as like the dying days of WCW because at least the in ring work is good and the world title isn[t switching hands every RAW... but it's pretty paltry stuff. I'd liken the quality of storylines and energy to 1995 where there is no ZING to the product.
Week to week stuff doesn't really seem to matter.
Maluco
03-28-2016, 11:37 PM
I agree totally. I just want interesting feuds. People seem to think that complaining is butthurt cause your favourite guy is not where you want him to be. I don't even have a favorite. I just want some interesting things happening from week to week. Entertaining TV and people grow and develop personalities. Everyone wins.
Like how generic can LoN actually be? It seems like a joke, but there they are, first ones out to separate the main event of Wrestlemania.
How can you possibly get something so wrong, that EVERY member of a stable suddenly drops a level of credibility just by being involved?
A strong Del Rio in a good feud would have added to this card.
Rusev came out in a TANK!! And look at him now....
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-28-2016, 11:42 PM
It takes too much effort to put forth a good product on the production and creative end when you really don't have to.
Corkscrewed
03-28-2016, 11:42 PM
Not even fussy, I will buy into anything. Zayn/Owens story was written. Have Ryback bully Kalisto in backstage segments and build up the sympathy. Have LoN constantly one up New Day with number advantage, hinting that a special partner will help then out at Mania.
Have the Andre Battle Royal for an IC title shot at next PPV and have a few guys promo about what that would mean to them.
Hint at Lynch/Charlotte jealousy at Sascha's reactions and the potential for an alliance to take her out of the match at Mania.
Have HHH hesitate before doing something particularly heinous to Reigns....put some questions around the match and what could happen.
Should have gone all out with Brock and Ambrose since the Rumble. Blood feud with pull apart brawls and hints of real craziness at Mania.
None of that is perfect, but it is something and that is all people are asking for. Give people a reason to care about what's happening.
:y: :y:
We're not surprised, just disappointed. Though I guess it's partly on us to continue to hope the WWE can pull itself together. Definition of insanity, right? Expecting a different result from the same stuff?
At this point, literally the only selling point is that the writers have pulled rabbits out of hats the last two WM's with Bryan winning and Rollins cashing in. Honestly, short of Ambrose randomly turning on Reigns in the main event and costing him the title (after feigning to help him), there's nothing that can end the show on that high note and/or shocker that you expect from a WrestleMania.
Of course, if the World Title doesn't go on last, then there's also that.
Droford
03-29-2016, 12:02 AM
I feel like the days of Wrestlemania buildup being treated by the WWE like a big deal are over. What I mean is..they can probably still count on selling 70k in tickets 5 months before the show. They used to have to worry about convincing 1+ million people to plop down 60 bucks for the PPV in addition but now they probably realize there's not a lot of people they have to convince to buy the network and it's only 10 bucks even if they do. The majority of The money to be made on WM was made 5 months ago.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 12:04 AM
I feel like the days of Wrestlemania buildup being treated by the WWE like a big deal are over. What I mean is..they can probably still count on selling 70k in tickets 5 months before the show. They used to have to worry about convincing 1+ million people to plop down 60 bucks for the PPV in addition but now they probably realize there's not a lot of people they have to convince to buy the network and it's only 10 bucks even if they do.
eggggzactly. And on the plus, if Mania is good like it has been the past couple of years, everyone forgets how shite the build is and we repeat the cycle. We're a hopeless breed, us wrasslin fans.
Droford
03-29-2016, 12:09 AM
WWE would probably be smart to stop including Mania in the network live and try and make it PPV again.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 12:11 AM
I will say it is confusing that Mania can be so good while the build can be so shit.... doesn't that mean they could just have a good product leading into mania?
Shisen Kopf
03-29-2016, 12:26 AM
Pretty lame raw this week. 3.5/7
#BROKEN Hasney
03-29-2016, 06:43 AM
lol @ "You Still Suck" chant just before Raw goes off the air after the dive.
#BROKEN Hasney
03-29-2016, 09:02 AM
Meltzer said WWE SERIOUSLY believed that Eva Marie would get cheered, and that the boos were just an NXT thing. I don't put much stock in DA SHEETZ stuff, but I want that to be true.
Also:
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https://40.media.tumblr.com/64dcbfca67a1e191be21fcaa2a3ff5a0/tumblr_o4s6xzrF0J1rnjfjfo1_r1_540.jpg
Meltzer said WWE SERIOUSLY believed that Eva Marie would get cheered, and that the boos were just an NXT thing. I don't put much stock in DA SHEETZ stuff, but I want that to be true.
Cue the CyNick to tell us it was only the vocal smarks booing in 3,2,1…
Big Vic
03-29-2016, 09:19 AM
Read the results seems like a "zzzzzz" raw. Posts seem to indicate that as well.
The CyNick
03-29-2016, 10:50 AM
Cue the CyNick to tell us it was only the vocal smarks booing in 3,2,1…
I don't care if people boo her, when I see her she screams money to me.
I think they had it right in NXT, put her with a bodyguard type and limit her in ring work till she gets better.
The CyNick
03-29-2016, 10:55 AM
The Barclays has become smark central. Might have to ban them from the TV rotation.
In all seriousness they drew close to 15k for NXT, so clearly its a smark heavy crowd that would hate on Eva just cuz.
road doggy dogg
03-29-2016, 10:58 AM
^ lol
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 10:59 AM
Looking forward to the CyNick banning Barclays from the rotation.
screech
03-29-2016, 11:00 AM
Or they could hate on Eva because she is, you know, awful.
screech
03-29-2016, 11:08 AM
Just want to make sure this doesn't get lost at the bottom of the last page:
The Barclays has become smark central. Might have to ban them from the TV rotation.
In all seriousness they drew close to 15k for NXT, so clearly its a smark heavy crowd that would hate on Eva just cuz.
The CyNick
03-29-2016, 11:09 AM
I didn't really care for RAW this week. Aside from the opening segment, it was all rather ho hum.
I know everyone is really down on creative, but I just feel like all the injuries have caught up to them, and they have to weather the storm. I don't see many guys in the mid card who can step up at this point. The summer should be better when they have a full house again plus some new blood from NXT post Mania.
The CyNick
03-29-2016, 11:12 AM
Or they could hate on Eva because she is, you know, awful.
By awful you mean she is attractive, presents herself like a star, and garners a reaction? Oh no her transitions between arm drags are not smooth. If only she was bland and could work, then all the smarks would be happy.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 11:18 AM
It's about as bad when they have a full roster to be perfectly honest.
Gerard
03-29-2016, 11:28 AM
Holy fuck....
The announce desks got new types of monitor :eek:
screech
03-29-2016, 11:31 AM
By awful you mean she is attractive, presents herself like a star, and garners a reaction? Oh no her transitions between arm drags are not smooth. If only she was bland and could work, then all the smarks would be happy.
I don't care about her in-ring work. She's not attractive, she can't talk, and looks completely lost every time she's out there. It's horrendous to watch.
It's astounding that she has seemingly not improved at all since her debut.
Big Vic
03-29-2016, 11:37 AM
By awful you mean she is attractive, presents herself like a star, and garners a reaction? Oh no her transitions between arm drags are not smooth. If only she was bland and could work, then all the smarks would be happy.
Why not have her as a valet?
The Barclays has become smark central. Might have to ban them from the TV rotation.
In all seriousness they drew close to 15k for NXT, so clearly its a smark heavy crowd that would hate on Eva just cuz.
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screech
03-29-2016, 11:50 AM
Why not have her as a valet?
This might mean that she wouldn't speak. I could probably deal with that.
I think the CyNick just jumped the shark.
You're killing your gimmick man! Exposing the business BAH GAWD!
Frank Drebin
03-29-2016, 12:08 PM
Eva Marie sure is shiny like a new coat of varnish. Cmon screech, don't act liked you'd kick her out of bed.
Looking forward to her over the top negative crowd reactions as long as she doesn't drop someone on their head. She might not get it, but send her out there every chance you have. If nothing else just for the lols
The CyNick
03-29-2016, 01:30 PM
Why not have her as a valet?
That would be fine, but I think they want more girls working and less valet types. Valets don't exactly fit with the Divas Tevolution concept.
I'm not even get biggest fan, I'm just saying she looks like a star and this is a star driven business. Trish was horrific the first couple years, but she got better. Maybe Eva never gets better, if she doesn't, you move on and find the next girl. But I can see why people who are smart would want to see her on TV.
The CyNick
03-29-2016, 01:31 PM
I think the CyNick just jumped the shark.
You're killing your gimmick man! Exposing the business BAH GAWD!
I am the business Randy.
Corkscrewed
03-29-2016, 02:54 PM
Hasn't it already been a couple of years, and Eva Marie has not gotten better??
You know what also didn't fit in with the Divas Revolution concept? Trading wins and having pointless feuds where alliances and loyalties were never defined, and characters turned face and heel according to the direction of the wind.
erickman
03-29-2016, 02:57 PM
So who gets booed more....Eva or Roman??
there 2 most over heels are going to be babyfaces at mania
Big Vic
03-29-2016, 03:00 PM
Ooo Eva should be Romans valet.
erickman
03-29-2016, 03:05 PM
Ooo Eva should be Romans valet.
that would be good heel heat
Simple Fan
03-29-2016, 03:12 PM
I like Eva and kinda agree with CyNick. She does look like a star and if she could get her in ring work together could be something but she needs to be a heel first. Don't know what would make them think she would get cheers, if that is what they thought.
Emperor Smeat
03-29-2016, 03:20 PM
Hasn't it already been a couple of years, and Eva Marie has not gotten better??
You know what also didn't fit in with the Divas Revolution concept? Trading wins and having pointless feuds where alliances and loyalties were never defined, and characters turned face and heel according to the direction of the wind.
Yeup, they wasted about 2-3 years worth of development by not having her legit train to get better because Total Divas being seen more important for the Divas division.
She and JoJo only got hired because of that show but at least the WWE realized very quickly with JoJo she needed real training or at least could be used for non-in ring stuff. With Eva, they stubbornly kept putting her into situations she wasn't ready for and when they finally realized she needed real training, still rushed her development just so she could be on tv.
Main reason Eva is getting booed is because the crowds despise the forced nature of her tv presence. Very similar to Reigns and the overly forced nature of his mega star pushes.
The CyNick
03-29-2016, 03:45 PM
I like Eva and kinda agree with CyNick. She does look like a star and if she could get her in ring work together could be something but she needs to be a heel first. Don't know what would make them think she would get cheers, if that is what they thought.
I dont believe they did based on the reaction of the girls in the ring. I would guess they do a deal where she pretends to be ababyface, but acts like she's better than everyone. So really she is a heel.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 04:17 PM
Lol until they stop calling their female workers divas that division will fail to grow. The belt looks pathetic and the writing is often pathetic.
Eva Marie looked like a Fucking loser coming out on raw. Like Stephanie McMahon, she has channel changing heat. Most of those girls can work circles around the likes of lita and Trish at their best but as usual, the booking leaves them bereft of indivoduallity and personallity.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 04:21 PM
Oh and just to reiterate, Stephanie McMahon is a worthless piece of garbage with no real mind for the business. Time to never appear on screen again.
Lock Jaw
03-29-2016, 04:24 PM
Eva has improved a whole lot and has tons of potential. She still isn't very good, aside from her look and entrance which she has down pat. Did improve from being terrible to not very good, though.... Just needs to keep taking those steps.
Right now I'd rather see Eva Marie on NXT than any of those new random jobber chicks.... Who are clearly better wrestlers than Eva....
Big Vic
03-29-2016, 04:30 PM
Oh and just to reiterate, Stephanie McMahon is a worthless piece of garbage with no real mind for the business. Time to never appear on screen again.
haha I caught the first 40 minutes on mute of the show and saw the graphic that said "Tonight" and had HHH, Brock Lesnar, The UnderTaker, Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, Shane, and.....Stephanie???? Why is she there? lol
The CyNick
03-29-2016, 04:36 PM
Oh and just to reiterate, Stephanie McMahon is a worthless piece of garbage with no real mind for the business. Time to never appear on screen again.
Lol
She's forgotten more about the business than almost everyone on the planet well ever know.
The CyNick
03-29-2016, 04:38 PM
Eva has improved a whole lot and has tons of potential. She still isn't very good, aside from her look and entrance which she has down pat. Did improve from being terrible to not very good, though.... Just needs to keep taking those steps.
Right now I'd rather see Eva Marie on NXT than any of those new random jobber chicks.... Who are clearly better wrestlers than Eva....
If the internet had their way every worker would be Lance storm. There would be 55 people in each arena and 50000 watching on tv, but the internet would be happy.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 06:09 PM
I didn't really care for RAW this week. Aside from the opening segment, it was all rather ho hum.
I know everyone is really down on creative, but I just feel like all the injuries have caught up to them, and they have to weather the storm. I don't see many guys in the mid card who can step up at this point. The summer should be better when they have a full house again plus some new blood from NXT post Mania.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 06:10 PM
Lol
She's forgotten more about the business than almost everyone on the planet well ever know.
Um, did you hear that from Vince or Hunter, because I don't trust your sources.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 06:12 PM
The Barclays has become smark central. Might have to ban them from the TV rotation.
In all seriousness they drew close to 15k for NXT, so clearly its a smark heavy crowd that would hate on Eva just cuz.
AHAhahahaha!
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 06:14 PM
Eva Marie is a complete accident, by the way. They've struck gold, but she's not ready for prime time or to take complete ownership of that personality. At least her call-up is probably just for WrestleMania.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 06:14 PM
The real story is Evil Emma being on the main roster again.
The CyNick
03-29-2016, 06:30 PM
The real story is Evil Emma being on the main roster again.
Typical smark
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 07:09 PM
Hahahahahaha!
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 07:10 PM
Lol
She's forgotten more about the business than almost everyone on the planet well ever know.
While probably knowing more about the ins and outs of a locker room and policies and procedures of a business, she has shown time and time again that she lacks creativity and a fundamental understanding of quality entertainment.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 07:12 PM
But didn't you hear she added a little dance to her intro. It's all about entertaining people.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 07:13 PM
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/evilbabes/images/b/bc/Evil_Emma_Entrance.gif/revision/latest?cb=20160207052912
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 07:15 PM
The problem is that there are "work rate" guys in the company up and down the roster. What there isn't is a single captivating personality on the full time roster barring maybe Deano. What they need are guys who get maximum crowd reaction out of minimal effort. That was the genius of the hogans and the dusties. You always need work rate guys too for that portion of the card, which can be main event, but the lack of creativity from thr wwe from the top to the bottom (due to it being over produced bollocks) has robbed the product of its magic.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-29-2016, 07:16 PM
Oh throw new day in the list too. And Kevin Owens. But that's not much.
Mr. Nerfect
03-29-2016, 07:16 PM
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Eva Marie hot as hell too. Don't know how you even think of her as a babyface though. She'll turn on her team at Mania. Or they'll turn on her.
Lock Jaw
03-29-2016, 07:19 PM
If the internet had their way every worker would be Lance storm. There would be 55 people in each arena and 50000 watching on tv, but the internet would be happy.
We would all have our pants off
Corndad
03-29-2016, 09:46 PM
Eva is definitely turning on her team, if not at Mania the night after.
Also did anyone else watch the 24 with Bryan last night? Jesus I cried like a baby. 24 is the best thing going on the Network by far.
Simple Fan
03-30-2016, 12:09 AM
If she's going to be on the main roster she should be a manager for a bit. Think Eva would do great with the Dudleys.
SlickyTrickyDamon
03-30-2016, 12:17 AM
Crowd would chant "Table Eva" every match.
The CyNick
03-30-2016, 09:39 AM
If she's going to be on the main roster she should be a manager for a bit. Think Eva would do great with the Dudleys.
Dudleys seem beneath her.
If she was going to valet, it should be for a headliner. Maybe Seth Rollins when he comes back.
I still think she should be a worker with a bodyguard type who does all the work (Nia Jax makes perfect sense). It would be perfect if they had Divas tag belts. She would be a good foil to build up to fight Sasha Banks down the road.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-30-2016, 09:51 AM
lol
Simple Fan
03-30-2016, 12:01 PM
I don't think anyone is beneath Eva roster wise. Don't think Rollins needs Eva, if the Dudleys are going to be heel it works even better. No tables and no Eva going through a table. Could also see her working with a heel Ziggler or you could stick her with the Social Outcast. Honestly she should stay in NXT for a while though.
The CyNick
03-30-2016, 02:48 PM
I agree she could use seasoning in NXT.
Bad News Gertner
03-30-2016, 06:33 PM
If the internet had their way every worker would be Lance storm. There would be 55 people in each arena and 50000 watching on tv, but the internet would be happy.
Lol yes x1000. It's like reading my posts from 3 years ago
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-30-2016, 06:34 PM
Thanks a load of horse shit though. I love work rate guys, but I'd blow my brains out if every one was a work rate guy. And I am a fan on the internet.
Bad News Gertner
03-30-2016, 06:35 PM
The Barclays has become smark central. Might have to ban them from the TV rotation.
In all seriousness they drew close to 15k for NXT, so clearly its a smark heavy crowd that would hate on Eva just cuz.
I 10%% agree with this. Bunch of fat basement dwelling virgins trying to get themselves over.
Bad News Gertner
03-30-2016, 06:36 PM
By awful you mean she is attractive, presents herself like a star, and garners a reaction? Oh no her transitions between arm drags are not smooth. If only she was bland and could work, then all the smarks would be happy.
And I completely agree with this. She can be the best womens heel on the roster.
BigCrippyZ
03-30-2016, 07:06 PM
I 10%% agree with this. Bunch of fat basement dwelling virgins trying to get themselves over.
:lol: Get themselves over with who exactly? Other people on the internet? And how does one know if one's self is over with other people on the internet exactly?
Bad News Gertner
03-30-2016, 07:07 PM
Yes those "we are awesome" chants aren't ment to blow themselves.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-30-2016, 07:10 PM
It's kind of silly..... wonder if I'd rather a crowd that sat on their hands to show their discontent, or a crowd trying to put themselves over.
Bad News Gertner
03-30-2016, 07:16 PM
Honestly, sat on their hands,
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-30-2016, 07:20 PM
It doesn't make a difference either way. You've already spent your money and they aren't left hurting. Just looks stupid on tv either way. If a segment "bombs" and the audience is quiet, and they still keep selling out and selling merchandise, nothing is accomplished (same goes for the stupid chants).
#1-norm-fan
03-30-2016, 07:20 PM
Sitting on their hands is what most Raw crowds do. I prefer the smark crowds. At least there's SOME atmosphere in the arena.
Basically, I'd rather watch a trainwreck than watch grass growing.
BigCrippyZ
03-30-2016, 07:22 PM
Sitting on their hands is what most Raw crowds do. I prefer the smark crowds. At least there's SOME atmosphere in the arena.
Basically, I'd rather watch a trainwreck than watch grass growing.
This. Hell, the post WM Raw crowds are usually more entertaining than the post WM Raw show itself, and almost always more entertaining than any other Raw shows, at least recently.
#1-norm-fan
03-30-2016, 07:23 PM
Honestly, if WrestleMania wasn't guaranteed to be a smark crowd, I'd probably watch Shane vs Taker and ignore the rest. The biggest draw of the show to me is to see how they avoid the crowd shitting on the show.
Shadrick
03-30-2016, 08:10 PM
The Walking Dead is on at the same time as mania. From 9pm to 10:30pm. I did not at ALL hesitate that I'd be watching that instead of Mania. Shows where I am on the PPV.
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-30-2016, 08:18 PM
Yeah I dunno, there's a fine line. The Barclay crowd was pretty hot for everything and very cooperative with what was going on until the final hour where they just got fucking bored.
At the end of the day they are there to have a good time... if what's happening in front of them isn't accomplishing that, then I believe they are free to do what they want barring physically interfering with the show. It has very little bearing on the product <i>these</i> days, as creative seems used to it by now... but the crowd has the right to entertain themselves if they are not entertained.
....but where does "entertaining" yourself become "trying to get over"?
Emperor Smeat
03-30-2016, 09:01 PM
I'd argue when the crowd really starts to go overboard with the chants to the point it starts to sound offensive (ex. crowd making slur type chants against Divas wrestlers) or stuff not normally seen as the real problem gets "shitted" on for no real reason (ex. same chants spilling over to several matches regardless of quality).
Personally I felt the crowd for most of the 6-man tag match was a mix of them having fun and actually cheering what was going on in the ring. Wasn't till near the end when the match itself started to drag on or felt like it had no importance that the crowd went more in the active shitting role. Doesn't help that Sami beating Owens which should have been a huge deal considering their past was a really flat and throw-away moment.
Simple Fan
03-30-2016, 09:17 PM
Is that what happened, Sami pinned Owens? I watched but much like the crowd I wasn't into that match and I think the crowd chants is all I remember from it. I guess the crowd got over. Anyway definitely should've not had Sami pin Owens.
#1-norm-fan
03-30-2016, 10:42 PM
Wait, wait, wait...
Sami Zayn beat Owens in a throwaway 6 man tag?
Well, fuck.
Lock Jaw
03-30-2016, 11:26 PM
Yeah, BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THIS SUNDAY AT WRESTLEMANIA
Heisenberg
03-31-2016, 01:02 AM
I know WrestleMania looks like shit to a lot on here, it's not a secret. It can be mocked and turned against you real quick, but there's that line in the sand where everyone stood at one time and for just a span of 4-6 years we were all excited and surprised by what we consumed on a weekly basis. The Attitude Era.
This Mania will be my first in attendance and a lot of those Attitude guys I grew up idolizing will be there in physical and non-physical capacities. Even before that time I was a huge Undertaker fan, followed him from his debut 'til current day. I have never seen him wrestle. I've only seen him appear off-camera in a dark segment of RAW. Out of everyone here I live the closest to him, but have never received the chance to see the Deadman in real life. This Sunday marks a lot of firsts on my bucket list. AJ Styles, Undertaker and Sting to name just a few. The Rock has been elusive to me as well. I am going to shit my pants more likely when his music hits. Stone Cold is always fun, but I've interacted with him multiple times in person, through his podcast and on Twitter. He is always welcome to open up a can of WHOOPASS with me any day.
I am attending the show with a few family members and a friend who all have spent hours with me in person discussing and watching wrestling together with, my cousin driving down from Iowa being the man who early on in my life kept me going in wrestling. We even got into WCW before Hogan, Nash and Hall came along. I remember the WCW trading cards we had. Some of those guys had sweet mullets.
Anyways, it's been fun baiting y'all on here from time to time when I tell you to enjoy the current product and be elitist about it. Fact of the matter is, I don't give a damn what you feel about the current direction, history is bound to repeat itself and I see good things on the horizon starting this Sunday or the very next night on RAW.
Taker lives in Houston though?
I know WrestleMania looks like shit to a lot on here, it's not a secret. It can be mocked and turned against you real quick, but there's that line in the sand where everyone stood at one time and for just a span of 4-6 years we were all excited and surprised by what we consumed on a weekly basis. The Attitude Era.
This Mania will be my first in attendance and a lot of those Attitude guys I grew up idolizing will be there in physical and non-physical capacities. Even before that time I was a huge Undertaker fan, followed him from his debut 'til current day. I have never seen him wrestle. I've only seen him appear off-camera in a dark segment of RAW. Out of everyone here I live the closest to him, but have never received the chance to see the Deadman in real life. This Sunday marks a lot of firsts on my bucket list. AJ Styles, Undertaker and Sting to name just a few. The Rock has been elusive to me as well. I am going to shit my pants more likely when his music hits. Stone Cold is always fun, but I've interacted with him multiple times in person, through his podcast and on Twitter. He is always welcome to open up a can of WHOOPASS with me any day.
I am attending the show with a few family members and a friend who all have spent hours with me in person discussing and watching wrestling together with, my cousin driving down from Iowa being the man who early on in my life kept me going in wrestling. We even got into WCW before Hogan, Nash and Hall came along. I remember the WCW trading cards we had. Some of those guys had sweet mullets.
Anyways, it's been fun baiting y'all on here from time to time when I tell you to enjoy the current product and be elitist about it. Fact of the matter is, I don't give a damn what you feel about the current direction, history is bound to repeat itself and I see good things on the horizon starting this Sunday or the very next night on RAW.
I'm happy for you, Heisenberg. Have a good time :y:
Ol Dirty Dastard
03-31-2016, 07:53 AM
I know WrestleMania looks like shit to a lot on here, it's not a secret. It can be mocked and turned against you real quick, but there's that line in the sand where everyone stood at one time and for just a span of 4-6 years we were all excited and surprised by what we consumed on a weekly basis. The Attitude Era.
This Mania will be my first in attendance and a lot of those Attitude guys I grew up idolizing will be there in physical and non-physical capacities. Even before that time I was a huge Undertaker fan, followed him from his debut 'til current day. I have never seen him wrestle. I've only seen him appear off-camera in a dark segment of RAW. Out of everyone here I live the closest to him, but have never received the chance to see the Deadman in real life. This Sunday marks a lot of firsts on my bucket list. AJ Styles, Undertaker and Sting to name just a few. The Rock has been elusive to me as well. I am going to shit my pants more likely when his music hits. Stone Cold is always fun, but I've interacted with him multiple times in person, through his podcast and on Twitter. He is always welcome to open up a can of WHOOPASS with me any day.
I am attending the show with a few family members and a friend who all have spent hours with me in person discussing and watching wrestling together with, my cousin driving down from Iowa being the man who early on in my life kept me going in wrestling. We even got into WCW before Hogan, Nash and Hall came along. I remember the WCW trading cards we had. Some of those guys had sweet mullets.
Anyways, it's been fun baiting y'all on here from time to time when I tell you to enjoy the current product and be elitist about it. Fact of the matter is, I don't give a damn what you feel about the current direction, history is bound to repeat itself and I see good things on the horizon starting this Sunday or the very next night on RAW.
I don't think anyone thinks mania won't be good. Just the tv leading into it is BLAH and the tv after it will most likely be blah.
Have fun tho!
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