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broverboard
07-29-2016, 10:12 AM
What do you folks think Cass could go onto achieve in WWE?

He seems to have the look, can go in the ring and isn't too bad on the mic.

I've just been reading about some of the volunteering work he used to do at a homeless shelter and for another community charity which would appear he'd be great as a company representative as well.

I personally think he's got great potential. After Enzo's injury at Payback I was pleasantly surprised with how he performed on his own, and the crowd still seemed into him. That being said, I'd love to see Cass and Enzo stay as a team and slowly work up the ranks together (after successful stints as tag champs), with Cass challenging for WWE Universal Championship with Enzo's support, while Enzo tears up the mid card rather than the two eventually splitting. They have great potential to be the major faces of Raw in my opinion.

So, what's your thoughts?

Mercenary
07-29-2016, 10:19 AM
He stumbles over his lines a lot.

Big Vic
07-29-2016, 10:28 AM
Future Cass: "Suckering Suckertash man!"

broverboard
07-29-2016, 10:34 AM
Future Cass: "Suckering Suckertash man!"

Thanks, you've just made me laugh and spit my tea on myself. Never do that to an Englishman.

XL
07-29-2016, 10:39 AM
I think the sum is greater than its parts with these guys. Much more into Enzo & Cass than I would be as individuals.

Rammsteinmad
07-29-2016, 11:36 AM
He's good, but he'll forever be living in the shadow of Enzo's charisma.

With that said, they both work click better as a team than as two singles stars, and if they do both go for singles titles in the future, it'd be great for them to still remain as a team, like the original poster suggested.

Simple Fan
07-29-2016, 12:01 PM
As long as him and Enzo stay together he can be a huge star. I think they will dominate the Tag division for a bit though. Cass is not the best talker and I feel the SWAFT stuff would get old on its own quick. I'd like to see the stay together even once they go into singles competition. Cass as the Universal Champion and Enzo as the Cruiserweight Champion.

Ultra Mantis
07-29-2016, 12:20 PM
Cass is pretty much Billy Gunn.

Ruien
07-29-2016, 12:48 PM
So true. This team has New Age Outlaws written all over them. Neither will go far in singles competition.

Ruien
07-29-2016, 12:49 PM
Which is why they should have the tag belts for the next 3 yeara.

Emperor Smeat
07-29-2016, 01:48 PM
Way too early to even consider splitting him from Enzo. Even though he was somewhat decent during the time Enzo was out recovering, he'd probably end up like every other tag team in recent years that got split up prematurely.

WWE gives him a small push at the start but no guarantee they don't lose interest very quickly or bail the moment he starts to struggle.

RP
07-29-2016, 04:17 PM
I wouldnt split him from Enzo, but i would split Enzo from Cass. If that makes sense. I think the longer Cass can stay with Enzo, the better he will get, but Enzo is red hot right now. And i dont know how much longer they can keep Enzo with Cass. And its pretty much a given that they'll work a HBK/Diesle type split or and HBK/ Marty Jaenette type split. If they dont they are stupid. I like Cass, but Enzo needs to be set free.

ClockShot
07-29-2016, 04:53 PM
All I know is that "HE'S 7 FEET TALL! AND YOU CAN'T-TEACH-THAT!"

He was pretty good in singles competition when Enzo was busy being the realist guy in the emergency room.

Aside from that, only time will tell.

Xero
07-29-2016, 07:34 PM
Outside of possibly Test, he has my favorite Big Boot of all time.

Maluco
07-29-2016, 07:41 PM
Fact is, singles guys are more marketable in the long run than tag teams, and sell more tickets too. True individual star trumps top tag team, so those hoping they dont try it will be disappointed. They will definitely try it, it's just a matter of when they do.

I think it will come more quickly than people hope, for two reasons. One, with the brand split, there aren't enough tag teams to run through, and they could be all out of potential feuds very quickly. Two, the need for singles stars is all the greater now that we have a split. A marketable 7 foot world champ who is articulate and can have good matches, PLUS a potential marquee star for a budding cruiser division would be worth much more than a very over tag team.

I personally think that Enzo will always be limited because of his size, but Cass can be a very big deal. I can imagine how high Vince would be on someone like him and he showed enough in his brief cameo, during enzos injury, that he can perform on his own and has good matches. His size alone would be enough for them, but he has real tools too.

Will be interesting to see what happens to both guys.

Ruien
07-29-2016, 09:07 PM
New Day were the champs for like half a year with only the Usos to feud with. Enzo and Cass will have a bunch of teams to feud with. Especially if the tag belts will float around.

Simple Fan
07-29-2016, 09:10 PM
New Day has also been killing it with merchandise as well. If done right a team can be marketed just as well as a singles guy.

Maluco
07-30-2016, 12:53 AM
...to a point. If you asked the bigwigs at WWE they would still go for two credible single stars over a tag team.

If one of New Day were 7 feet tall, I think you would have already seen them split. I can't see any way they won't try it and I actually think a Shawn/Diesel split, like mentioned above, would be the way to go.

If they are established beforehand, you can always throw them back together again, and I think that will be the company's atitude too

DAMN iNATOR
07-30-2016, 01:14 AM
Outside of possibly Test, he has my favorite Big Boot of all time.

WOOO XERO POST!

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Wishbone
07-30-2016, 07:31 AM
Cass is great for a big man, and I think down the line he has some potential, but right now he's not ready at all. His mic work is definitely above average, but he's in Enzo's shadow. What's more he doesn't really have much of an identity yet IMO. He's just "the big guy that Enzo hangs with" right now. Anyway like some others have said if they do go for singles titles down the line they should remain together anyway. We haven't really seen that sort of thing much in wrestling and I think that needs to change. Two best friends who actually remain best friends in the wrestling industry could be a fun change of pace, and if they remain together Cass could still benefit from Enzo's crazy charisma. All of this should definitely be held off for a long while though. Let them get established as a major tag-team first.

Mr. Nerfect
07-30-2016, 08:10 PM
I like Cass more than Enzo. I mean, Enzo kills it on the mic, but there are different types of charisma. Cass seems like he would be cool to hang out with. I don't think he's bad on the mic at all, and they've been very careful with him. They've got gold at the moment because they can use Enzo to sponge up falls for him, but if they want Enzo to be a star, they need to be careful with that too. Occasional singles squash matches where each gets to show their stuff off would be a fine idea.

Mr. Nerfect
07-30-2016, 08:11 PM
Given that weight classes are now a joke in WWE, they could very easily put the Universal Title on Enzo and people would lap it up. He wouldn't get a long or dominant run as a babyface champion, but it could make for some exciting television, which is all the WWE cares about right now. I can imagine him winning the belt in a fluke as a babyface and if it works him being a permanent part of the main event scene.

Mr. Nerfect
07-30-2016, 08:12 PM
For a comparison, do you really doubt that in a two brand era without a Rock or Austin around, Road Dogg and Billy Gunn would have been given World Title reigns?

Ruien
07-31-2016, 10:08 AM
Nope. I don't think either had what it took to be a singles star. Billy Gunn would have had a couple of title matches but would not have won the title.

Swiss Ultimate
07-31-2016, 02:28 PM
Outside of possibly Test, he has my favorite Big Boot of all time.

I always liked Kane's.

Vastardikai
07-31-2016, 03:47 PM
I feel like Big Cass as a singles star is a victim of the era. 30 years ago, Big Cass would be on the rise as a singles star, with Enzo Amore as his manager.

Honestly, that'd probably be the best bet for all parties involved. How you doin'?

Cool King
07-31-2016, 03:55 PM
Outside of possibly Test, he has my favorite Big Boot of all time.

https://s31.postimg.org/4ee8epn5n/ezgif_1579676530.gif

Whoa, Xero sighting.

The Condor
07-31-2016, 03:56 PM
The first time I saw him I said, "Shit, he's raw, but Vince will push him to the moon."

Personally, the only way I see it happening is as a face with Enzo as a mouthpiece/manager, rather than a tag team partner/active wrestler, which isn't a big deal because Enzo is the definition of a marginal wrestler anyway.

Mr. Nerfect
07-31-2016, 07:29 PM
Nope. I don't think either had what it took to be a singles star. Billy Gunn would have had a couple of title matches but would not have won the title.

Daniel Bryan before the YES! Movement
The Great Khali
Jack Swagger
Alberto Del Rio after a few months
CM Punk pre-pipe bomb
Big Show
Dolph Ziggler
Christian
Mark Henry

And that's just the World Heavyweight Title. Many of these names would not have made a World Title's history pre-brand split. I'm not saying they would have been huge stars, but I'm sure they would have been given trial runs.

Ruien
07-31-2016, 09:30 PM
Very true. Guess I could have seen Gunn getting a short title reign. Maybe. Wouldn't have been a 100% bet or anything but ya Swagger.

Still can't see Road Dogg getting a main title though during the brand split era. Then again, Swagger.

Mr. Nerfect
07-31-2016, 09:58 PM
They may not have, it just wouldn't have surprised me in that hypothetical universe. I mean, these guys did dethrone Cody Rhodes & Goldust when they were a hot act at the beginning of 2014.

SNLfunnyguy
08-01-2016, 12:41 PM
I like him, but he needs to sort out his gear. Looks like he is wearing underwear with a Road Warrior Hawk pant-line. ANd he has chubby hips. Sort that out, or wear more flattering clothing. But yeah, I like him a lot.

Corkscrewed
08-01-2016, 05:48 PM
Like what most have said, they should keep the two together for a while and allow organic development. Otherwise, he will become the next Roman Reigns (see how much people liked Reigns as part of the Shield vs when he got force pushed to the moon). Cass is a solid talker, but I do think he has a robotic cadence to his speech that sounds rehearsed (catchphrase excluded). The lines themselves are great, but he doesn't have quite a natural talking flow... at least not yet. He could improve on that delivery aspect before he gets his singles push.

Nicky Fives
08-02-2016, 10:32 AM
I like him. No hurry to split him from Enzo though.

dingdongyo
08-03-2016, 11:37 PM
He had a string of Hey, Arnold!-based jokes on Raw and I've adored him ever since.