ALL-IN / Can Cody Rhodes draw 10 people?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

;)

[Mr. Nerfect]

My biggest hope from this is that the story is distorted enough to make someone with too much money invest in wrestling. I’m so hungry for an alternative that is a bit more serious than The Bullet Club. But I don’t know if that will draw today, given that the people willing to attend these things prefer to chant “Brother Nero” than get into Jeff Hardy. It’s such a weird time and place to be in.

[Destor]

Given the perception of interest, I can see them seguing it into some sort of TV deal. If not for weekly stuff, some sort of specials. But maybe they will just do live events. I can’t see them not doing it again unless the show absolutely sucks or attendance is at the 6,000 mark and scalpers bought a shitload of tickets for some reason.

The promise of Punk would have helped, but I honestly didn’t think he was that much of a draw, haha.

I dunno, I think if they have an actual product it will fail. Wrestling fans hate wrestling. As long as the product is as intangible as it can be it will work. So like spot shows a few times a year might work but and actual product will just get lolAllIn shit posted to death.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I dunno, I think if they have an actual product it will fail. Wrestling fans hate wrestling. As long as the product is as intangible as it can be it will work. So like spot shows a few times a year might work but and actual product will just get lolAllIn shit posted to death.

That’s a good point. I agree with all that. I think they would get counterculture support for a while, but when the acts become too tangible — which is a great way to put it — they will lose that charm.

[Evil Vito]

The whole Punk thing is weird. Punk himself has only teased it once.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You know I'm in. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EverbodyIn?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EverbodyIn</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cubs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cubs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Cubs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@cubs</a> 2/2 <a href="https://t.co/dPrHqXb57I">pic.twitter.com/dPrHqXb57I</a></p>&mdash; Coach (@CMPunk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/966135055398653952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's it. Other than the recent news that he's doing a signing at Pro Wrestling Tees the day before, he's not dropped any hints nor really mentioned wrestling at all.

It would be disingenuous to say that the Bucks haven't teased the possibility of him showing up, though. They've teased it in interviews, on Twitter, and all sorts, for months. It's not as if they're using it as the biggest selling point for the show, but they've very purposefully made sure his name is in the conversation around this event.

If he doesn't show up, the reaction would be fascinating. I wonder how many people decided to go just on the very prospect of Punk showing up - but at the same time, can you really bitch about not getting something that was never announced?

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Cody, him and the Young Bucks were only expecting around 4k tickets to be sold as a best case scenario for the first week. Sears Center was the first to tell them it actually sold out way quicker than they ever imagined.

[Ruien]

Wonder if they will put on a yearly show if this receives a good response after the show.

[Ruien]

Doubt they ever become a fed though. This is unique which is a huge drawing factor.

[RP]

According to Cody, him and the Young Bucks were only expecting around 4k tickets to be sold as a best case scenario for the first week. Sears Center was the first to tell them it actually sold out way quicker than they ever imagined.

If this is the case, then they should be expecting a major profit.

[RP]

I wonder what tickets are being sold with the thought that CM Punk might be there. I'm also curious how likely Punk might show this show.

I'm not convinced that Punk is a end all be all here. But if he shows, holy fuck.

[#1-norm-fan]

I don't see why Punk wouldn't be down to just come in for a segment, hit a GTS on someone and play to the crowd a little.

[Destor]

I think he'll do a hype promo but i doubt he'll bury anyone lest he makes a hypocrite out of himself

[RP]

If he comes in, does his finisher, gets paid very little. This show is a massive hit and Vince might need to take notice.

[Simple Fan]

It's a one off event with no promotion backing it, not sure what Vince would take notice of unless it's the marketing they've used to do it.

[Destor]

"No promotion backing it"

Not sure what you think a promotion is

[Simple Fan]

A professional wrestling promotion, its pretty common term used in the wrestling community when talking about a company. Am I wrong?

Or maybe you are inferring that ROH and NJPW are putting some money into it?

[Destor]

So you think you need a 3 letter name to be a promotion?

[Simple Fan]

It doesnt have to be 3 but actually being a company. All In isn't a company its an event put on buy 3 individuals.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The whole Punk thing is weird. Punk himself has only teased it once.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You know I'm in. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EverbodyIn?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EverbodyIn</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/cubs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#cubs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Cubs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@cubs</a> 2/2 <a href="https://t.co/dPrHqXb57I">pic.twitter.com/dPrHqXb57I</a></p>&mdash; Coach (@CMPunk) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk/status/966135055398653952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 21, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's it. Other than the recent news that he's doing a signing at Pro Wrestling Tees the day before, he's not dropped any hints nor really mentioned wrestling at all.

It would be disingenuous to say that the Bucks haven't teased the possibility of him showing up, though. They've teased it in interviews, on Twitter, and all sorts, for months. It's not as if they're using it as the biggest selling point for the show, but they've very purposefully made sure his name is in the conversation around this event.

If he doesn't show up, the reaction would be fascinating. I wonder how many people decided to go just on the very prospect of Punk showing up - but at the same time, can you really bitch about not getting something that was never announced?

I think that's probably intentional by Punk and maybe by Cody. If the show was not going to sell, then Punk probably wouldn't want to be associated with it, lest his name be associated with a bomb. But if it was successful, he doesn't need to feel a taint now. They can probably either announce something with him, or use him as a surprise on the show in order to make it feel "epic" and give people more than they bargained for. It would probably be smarter to simply have him in an angle and setting up something for a future show, but who knows what they do?

I'd love for Punk to be the color commentator for the event, but that would take some of the oomph away from him doing anything, maybe.

[erickman]

A professional wrestling promotion, its pretty common term used in the wrestling community when talking about a company. Am I wrong?

Or maybe you are inferring that ROH and NJPW are putting some money into it?

yeah I bet Sinclair put money in like to help get the building

[Emperor Smeat]

Based on some estimates, Cody and the Young Bucks made over $480k just from ticket sales for this event.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wow. I had done some really quick&amp;dirty calcs this morning and hit $485k so I guess we're aligned. ;) <a href="https://t.co/ArlHlgoRPT">pic.twitter.com/ArlHlgoRPT</a></p>&mdash; Chris Harrington (@mookieghana) <a href="https://twitter.com/mookieghana/status/996084070449844225?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 14, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Mr. Nerfect]

That's the revenue, not the profit. I've never booked an arena myself, but quick research tells me that it's probably about $20,000 to book it, at least, with 15% of the gate, at least, going to the venue. That takes it down to $392,250. That's before paying talent, splitting with ROH and New Japan and whoever else fronted some costs for the show, and then splitting it among themselves. And I don't know how American tax cuts into that.

It's still a good haul, don't get me wrong. And then there are merchandise sales and streaming things to work out, but they didn't "make" that much money. That's what they have on the gate. It doesn't factor in any expenses.

[Swiss Ultimate]

That's the revenue, not the profit. I've never booked an arena myself, but quick research tells me that it's probably about $20,000 to book it, at least, with 15% of the gate, at least, going to the venue. That takes it down to $392,250. That's before paying talent, splitting with ROH and New Japan and whoever else fronted some costs for the show, and then splitting it among themselves. And I don't know how American tax cuts into that.

It's still a good haul, don't get me wrong. And then there are merchandise sales and streaming things to work out, but they didn't "make" that much money. That's what they have on the gate. It doesn't factor in any expenses.

How much do you think they're going to pay the talent for this?

[Simple Fan]

Flip might work for free at this point but he's still not booked.

[erickman]

I wonder what that podcast thing is going to make. Conrad is making it sound like wrestlecon

[Emperor Smeat]

How much do you think they're going to pay the talent for this?

Supposedly Rey Mysterio charges around $20k for his bookings. Considering he's arguably the biggest name announced so far, the rest probably are making a few hundred to a few thousand at best for this show.

[Mr. Nerfect]

How much do you think they're going to pay the talent for this?

I've got no clue, but when you see how much the show is making, you'd probably want to work for more than chips. Is it being streamed? Do you want an inflated rate because of that? Or are they going to sell DVDs/put it on PPV/make a deal with Netflix?

[LibSuperstar]

Sarcasm can be tough to decipher in text.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, I wouldn't gamble with Poe's law over Twitter. Besides, I'm not entirely sure he was being sarcastic. I mean, independent wrestling didn't really exist the same way as it does now back prior to the national expansion. And it's obvious you can't repeat that same success week-to-week. I wonder if Waltman's point is more jagged towards the state of "mainstream wrestling" in that there is such demand for an alternative?

[erickman]

well since waltman will be part of starrcast it was a joke he told

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fair enough.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Yeah Waltman is very supportive of all wrestling. Tries his best to be an "uncle" type character. Not "in him" to be sarcastic against other workers' success.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

He still think Roman Reigns is a great top babyface.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh Jesus, that Chyna porn broke him.

[XL]

He still think Roman Reigns is a great top babyface.

As do Austin, JR, Edge & Christian, etc.

[BigCrippyZ]

As do Austin, JR, Edge & Christian, etc.

There's a difference between doing great as the top babyface with what you're given to work with and the limitations placed upon you, and actually being a great top babyface.

Are we sure they're not referring to the former re: Reigns?

I would agree with the former. He is doing "great" as the top babyface relative to the situation he's in and the limitations he has to deal with.

That doesn't actually make him a great top babyface though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There's a difference between doing great as the top babyface with what you're given to work with and the limitations placed upon you, and actually being a great top babyface.

Are we sure they're not referring to the former re: Reigns?

I would agree with the former. He is doing "great" as the top babyface relative to the situation he's in and the limitations he has to deal with.

That doesn't actually make him a great top babyface though.

That's very true. I haven't read the comments from JR, but Austin is very "diplomatic" with his podcast. Everyone is the best and everyone is the greatest. He wouldn't have worked with them in 1999, but they are great cats.

Edge lost me with his comments re: Jinder Mahal. Edge stated in a blunt, matter-of-fact way that "he has heat, okay?" No, he didn't. That was evident. Edge was just towing company line or whatever. Or younger guys (feels weird calling Edge a younger guy) just think heat are smatterings of boos from shrinking crowds.

[erickman]

so are they going to combine the nwa with the roh belt, if cody gets the belt from dalton

[Simple Fan]

so are they going to combine the nwa with the roh belt, if cody gets the belt from dalton

Don't think they'd combine them, they'd just be a double champion.

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[mike adamle]

Crazy they sell so many tickets and the first announced match is Cody vs. Nick Aldis...

[Jordan]

Don't think they'd combine them, they'd just be a double champion.

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Okay that sold me, that should be the main event.

[Jordan]

Crazy they sell so many tickets and the first announced match is Cody vs. Nick Aldis...

Who cares. From their perspective, they have sold the tickets. It would be stupid to give away money to some cash hog star to beef up the card. Cody and Nick can headline and sprinkle The Bucks, Omega, and Okada throughout and you'll have a dope show.

[Jordan]

I really hope they stream the show so I can watch it.

[Ruien]

They need to make tv he stream super cheap. Like 3 dollars.

[erickman]

I really hope they stream the show so I can watch it.

yeah I would like to see how they stream it, who will do play by play, they already have a lot of talent at starcast maby get tony and colt cabana

[mike adamle]

If I got a ticket I'd be selling it asap after getting told the main event is Cody vs. Magnus

[Jordan]

yeah I would like to see how they stream it, who will do play by play, they already have a lot of talent at starcast maby get tony and colt cabana

I would love that. Or even Tony and JR. But yeah Colt would be better.

[Destor]

Crazy they sell so many tickets and the first announced match is Cody vs. Nick Aldis...

If you want those belts to even mean something you have to treat them like they mean something

[mike adamle]

Treat it like it means something or not I still have no interest in Cody vs. Magnus and can't believe anyone else does either.

[erickman]

I would love that. Or even Tony and JR. But yeah Colt would be better.

jr will be at the ou collage football game, that's why I am surprised tony will be at starcast since he works for the ga bulldogs unless he retired from that job.

[#1-norm-fan]

Treat it like it means something or not I still have no interest in Cody vs. Magnus and can't believe anyone else does either.

For the people who bought tickets to the show, Cody going after the NWA title is a big deal.

[Ruien]

Who the fuck would buy tickets to a show Cody is putting together and not want to see him in a big match? Gtfo.

[mike adamle]

That's not what I said, what I'm saying is you really see him vs. Magnus as a big match??

[#1-norm-fan]

It's not so much him vs Magnus as it is him challenging for the NWA title. Which might not mean much anymore in general but given the history and its link to the Rhodes name, it's a pretty big deal for the old school marks/Cody fans that will be at the show.

[Ruien]

That's not what I said, what I'm saying is you really see him vs. Magnus as a big match??

I dunno who Magnus is but if he has the NWA belt it seems like an obvious match.

[mike adamle]

Match is gonna be the shits.

[Simple Fan]

I think the match will be good. Both are solid workers and I don't see Cody stinking it up for this show. Aldis has been doing good work with the NWA as well.

[mike adamle]

Maybe he's improved but I just remember AJ Styles' last TNA match was with Magnus and was the drizzling shits. And haven't heard of one performance of his since then that's been worthwhile. If AJ Styles can't drag something good outta Magnus what can Cody Rhodes do?

[Simple Fan]

Maybe he's improved but I just remember AJ Styles' last TNA match was with Magnus and was the drizzling shits. And haven't heard of one performance of his since then that's been worthwhile. If AJ Styles can't drag something good outta Magnus what can Cody Rhodes do?

You blame that match being shit on Magnus? It was doomed from the start with all the bull shit going on around it. I agree it should have been used to put Magnus over as the next guy but they didn't work it like that. They hardly had a match with all the interference.

What was worse was how Magnus won the title in the Dixieland Match. The guy is talented and was being built up well before they actually put the title on him in a horrid match. TNA did him no favors once they did go with him and is probably one of the reasons he left.

[mike adamle]

Well if you wanna go on about the interference being too much then how about the Magnus-Samoa Joe feud? That's normally used as Magnus' best work in TNA but was mediocre at best. Now we're supposed to think he's gonna tear the house down with Cody Rhodes?

[Simple Fan]

Just from memory Magnus's work with Sting stuck out with me the most. I think they worked to get her after the Joe/Magnus fued. I don't think Aldis and Cody are meant to tear the house down though. They've got guys like Okada, Omega, Pentagon, and the Bucks who will probably fill that part of the show. It being Cody's show though only makes sense to throw him in the main event with the resurgence of the NWA title. As far as the match goes I could see some type of twist occurring though.

[erickman]

Just from memory Magnus's work with Sting stuck out with me the most. I think they worked to get her after the Joe/Magnus fued. I don't think Aldis and Cody are meant to tear the house down though. They've got guys like Okada, Omega, Pentagon, and the Bucks who will probably fill that part of the show. It being Cody's show though only makes sense to throw him in the main event with the resurgence of the NWA title. As far as the match goes I could see some type of twist occurring though.

yeah that is where punk will show up during that match.

[Destor]

The nwa belt can mean something again. It needs a lot of tlc but its been getting treated well since the buyout

[#1-norm-fan]

Has it? This is a step in the right direction, especially if they give it to Cody and let him defend it in higher profile matches. All I've seen so far though is that Magnus won it from that old-as-dirt nobody and has since defended it against James Ellsworth. Also it got defended in CZW while the crowd shit on the match because no one got hit with a light bulb wrapped in barbed wire and set on fire.

[mike adamle]

It's just gonna be a mediocre match with a Dusty finish.

[#1-norm-fan]

If it's the main event, I think Cody's gotta win the title.

[Simple Fan]

If it's the main event, I think Cody's gotta win the title.

That or Bullet Club turns on him.

[Destor]

It's just gonna be a mediocre match with a Dusty finish.

They wont do a dusty finish.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think it's really sweet what Corgan is trying to do with the NWA Title. A guy that means something can make the belt mean something. There are plenty of examples where belts have mattered more or less because you care or you don't. I think he's fighting an uphill battle in the sense that it's so dependent on nostalgia instead of modern relevancy, and it comes attached with all these memories of TNA, being thrown on the ground, being put onto guys that don't exactly have big stateside profiles, etc.

I want to get behind it, and I want it to work, and it's really quirky that Cody is going to make it the biggest part of this show, but it's also the NWA Title being defended in a match between Cody Rhodes and Brutus Magnus. But I guess you've got to try.

I can see the match being quite underwhelming. I hope Austin Idol turns on Magnus and aligns himself with Cody. Idol and Cody together could be entertaining.

[Jordan]

I think it's really sweet what Corgan is trying to do with the NWA Title. A guy that means something can make the belt mean something. There are plenty of examples where belts have mattered more or less because you care or you don't. I think he's fighting an uphill battle in the sense that it's so dependent on nostalgia instead of modern relevancy, and it comes attached with all these memories of TNA, being thrown on the ground, being put onto guys that don't exactly have big stateside profiles, etc.

I want to get behind it, and I want it to work, and it's really quirky that Cody is going to make it the biggest part of this show, but it's also the NWA Title being defended in a match between Cody Rhodes and Brutus Magnus. But I guess you've got to try.

I can see the match being quite underwhelming. I hope Austin Idol turns on Magnus and aligns himself with Cody. Idol and Cody together could be entertaining.

I like most old school fans have a fondness for the 10lbs of Gold. Just seeing that segment in England between Cody and Aldis was hype enough for me. If Cody takes that title he could truly make an NWA promotion a viable option on the indy scene. NWA could work with any promotion which is really cool. I wonder if the plan for All In going forward involves Bill Corgan and Condrad as financiers.

[kareru]

Is anyone else excited for this?
10,000 tickets sold out in less than 30 minutes, and only 1 match has been announced
rumor has it that CM punk will show up, possibly have a match

[Destor]

0% he will have a match

[Simple Fan]

CM Punk is like the least thing I'm interested in about for the show, never been a fan of his anyway. I'd be alright if they stream the show and he's on commentary though.

[RP]

0% he will have a match

His MMA fight is before this PPV right? If so, i'd give it more of a chance.

[RP]

If his fight is after ALL IN, then ya. Zero chance.


I'm just annoyed they couldnt get some PPV rights going on this thing. I might have bought.

[Simple Fan]

If his fight is after ALL IN, then ya. Zero chance.


I'm just annoyed they couldnt get some PPV rights going on this thing. I might have bought.

Still possible and they said they had meeting this week to talk about it. They didn't drop a new Being the Elite yesterday so they might have been busy with said meetings.

[mike adamle]

What would Punk even do? Face Okada? That I could get behind. Maybe Punk vs. Pentagon Jr. but other than that their's not much I'd like to see him do. But either of those would make up for that lack luster Magnus-Rhodes match.

[#1-norm-fan]

Punk vs Omega would be awesome to see. Won't happen though.

[mike adamle]

Eh, that doesn't sound very interesting. Okada-Punk and Omega-Pentagon would be a sick 1-2 punch though.

[Jordan]

I don't think you should get in your head that Punk is a lock that is just wishful thinking.

[mike adamle]

If Punk doesn't wrestle it's gonna be a garbage show

[Simple Fan]

Punk wrestling would be the garbage show.

[Destor]

Punk comes in to work one night on the big show...hmm...sounds familiar

[Mr. Nerfect]

Honestly, if Punk were willing to work, with those tickets already sold, I don't know why you wouldn't just do an angle so you can come back and do the match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Also, I know he has got some issues with Vince, but Punk seems the sort to make sure he gets paid a lot. I don't know why they would throw money into the dude's bank account when they didn't need to make a promise of him wrestling. They got there without him.

[Simple Fan]

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[slik]

Really good video package

[Jordan]

Yeah I agree. This is the way to build a promotion.

[Jordan]

I can't believe I'm saying this but I love Cody Rhodes now. He's a main eventer now, he's a top guy.

[Nicky Fives]

I can't believe I'm saying this but I love Cody Rhodes now. He's a main eventer now, he's a top guy.

Like many guys in WWE, he always was, just needed a chance.

[Destor]

He wasnt then and isnt now. Medium fish in s small pond

[Lock Jaw]

I haven't seen too much of Cody after WWE, but to me he feels very much "less" than he did in WWE.

He feels a lot more like he is "pretending" to be something he isn't, he doesn't seem as "real", judging by that video his gear is terrible, and all around he feels very "indie" now instead of "big league".

[Ruien]

Fake it until you make it.

[slik]

I agree w/ Ruien

[slik]

I've watched a couple of those NWA 'Ten Pounds of Gold' videos now. I dig the approach they are using, a little more 'up close/grounded'. I haven't really watched the NWA product recently though, so I can't comment on the wrestling itself.

[Simple Fan]

If you've watch the Ten Pounds of Gold then you've seen their product. They don't have anyone except Aldis and maybe Jocephus who has a title shot but they just go from promotion to promotion defending the NWA Worlds Heavyweight Championship.

[Droford]

If they actually run AI2 at MSG this year that will be something

[Jordan]

It would be something for sure. It would be incredible. They could run during WM week. But the downside is that they will have to pay an arm and a leg to get there. And the even bigger downside is that if they stream it, they will have to pay an arm, a leg, and some balls because it will be very expensive to shoot TV at MSG, much less rent the venue. But to be fair, smaller kickboxing and boxing shows run MSG all the time with shitty turn outs. At least ALL IN would sell out.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cody feels like a mid-card wrestler playing main eventer.

[erickman]

well the end of this year some non wwe wrestling company booked msg, I don't know how they did it wcw with ted turner couldn't even do that. how did vince let that happen?

[Jordan]

well the end of this year some non wwe wrestling company booked msg, I don't know how they did it wcw with ted turner couldn't even do that. how did vince let that happen?

I read that it could be JCW. Juggalo Championshit Wrestling. They have a huge fanbase and a shit load of money that they suck from them. Vince doesn't have an exclusive with MSG anymore. They do a few house shows because that is a lot less expensive than the contract to broadcast from MSG. Booking Barclays is almost half as expensive as booking MSG.

[Jordan]

It would be worth renting MSG if they were able to organize some kind of "War of the Worlds" show where they got talent from all major non WWE companies to compete in the same venue on one night. Which I guess they already do lol, but they could market it as such and try to figure some big deals to bring in.

[Jordan]

NVM I just read that AAA is the company rumored to have a hold on MSG.

[Jordan]

The September date AAA has a hold for on New York City's Madison Square Garden is indeed for the major 20,789-seat arena.

PWInsider.com is told that while WWE would technically have the right of first refusal on the date based on their agreement with the venue, the larger story at play here is that MSG management isn't happy that WWE has been running the majority of their events in the New York City market at the nearby Barclay Center in Brooklyn, NY.

The tipping point appears to have been WWE making the decision to run all of their Wrestlemania 35 week events in 2019 at Barclays, leaving MSG in the cold. Wrestlemania 1, 10 and 20 were held at MSG as was the WWE Hall of Fame ceremony in 2013, the last time Wrestlemania was held in the NYC market.

With WWE electing not to run Wrestlemania week at the legendary venue, MSG management has been more open than ever before to allowing other pro wrestling groups into the venue. We are told they have sent feelers out to different groups and are more open to booking non-WWE events than ever before. That may or may not have been why Ring of Honor teased "All In 2" potentially coming to the Garden over the weekend.

Of course, MSG and the Barclays have been competing for the same touring acts since the Barclays officially opened in 2012, so all of these moves may be the Garden's way of trying to leverage WWE into running their facility more often. The Garden historically was WWE's most important venue for many, many, many decades.

No other wrestling promotion has ever run MSG since the advent of the McMahon family's relationship with the legendary venue. From time to time, the adjacent Theater in Madison Square Garden has hosted pro wrestling events, including WCW, AAA and the original Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling, but those events have been very rare.


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[erickman]

AAA so msg could turn into the impact zone never thought that could happen

[Emperor Smeat]

Just from a historic nature alone, kind of crazy someone else besides WWE is going to run a show in MSG. Guess the equivalent would be if WWE ran a show today in Arena Mexico or the Tokyo Dome for how big of a deal this is.

Probably the best for Cody and ROH it wasn't them running this show since the level of pettiness and wrath from the WWE would have been a new high. Bad enough that both are pretty much on WWE's shit list (Cody for All In's success, ROH for being seen as a threat even if its just a minor one).

[erickman]

Just from a historic nature alone, kind of crazy someone else besides WWE is going to run a show in MSG. Guess the equivalent would be if WWE ran a show today in Arena Mexico or the Tokyo Dome for how big of a deal this is.

Probably the best for Cody and ROH it wasn't them running this show since the level of pettiness and wrath from the WWE would have been a new high. Bad enough that both are pretty much on WWE's shit list (Cody for All In's success, ROH for being seen as a threat even if its just a minor one).

yeah I am thinking goldust will give curt hawlkins his 1st win in over 200 matches.

any wrestler that wrestles in this msg show will have a hard time going to the wwe any time soon.

[erickman]

going by keeping it 100 podcast today konan said it is some south amarican network fitting the bill for AAA doing the garden, damn good for konan.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Voice of Wrestling, there are rumored plans for CM Punk to be involved in All In but only in a non-wrestling role. Also are dependent on how his fight in UFC went which is why it could get shelved and why its not for a wrestling appearance.

Enzo is also rumored to be desperately trying to get booked for this show but to no success so far.

[Jordan]

I would think that someone completely squashing Real1 would be a good layer for the show.

[Simple Fan]

Also teasing Callis as an announcer for the show which I'm not sure why you need one unless it was being streamed somewhere. I'd be fine with Punk joining Callis on commentary but I have no desire to see him wrestle, Real1 though I wouldn't mind seeing.

[Jordan]

Being the Elite sucks, I don't know how this show built up so much hype.

[Simple Fan]

Being the Elite is pretty damn good in my opinion. Has done a better job of pushing storylines than ROH TV has.

[Jordan]

Being the Elite is pretty damn good in my opinion. Has done a better job of pushing storylines than ROH TV has.

Well I said that as I was watching it and then Cody came on and he was great. Cody is great.

[Simple Fan]

Oh yeah show got alot better when he joined the cast.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to Chris Jericho, there were plans for him to be involved with this event but he turned down the offer due to money reasons. Cody and the Bucks' offer was a lot lower than what he usually asks for bookings.

Jericho mentioned during a recent interview that his usual asking price is in the "six figures" range which would have made him like 5x more expensive as a minimum to get than Rey Mysterio.

[#1-norm-fan]

I thought he said he turned it down because he doesn't wanna do shows in the US for anyone other than Vince. Same reason he won't wrestle at the New Japan Cow Palace show.

[mike adamle]

I thought he said he turned it down because he doesn't wanna do shows in the US for anyone other than Vince. Same reason he won't wrestle at the New Japan Cow Palace show.

That's exactly what he said, Smeat just hears what he wants and passes it off as the truth.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Though if Japan is giving him 6 figures per match I see no reason to accept anything less.

[Jordan]

I like ALL IN better without Jericho, I want to see a read underdog show pull off a great event.

[Emperor Smeat]

I thought he said he turned it down because he doesn't wanna do shows in the US for anyone other than Vince. Same reason he won't wrestle at the New Japan Cow Palace show.

That was another reason as well from the same interview. He doesn't want to do either event because it could potentially hurt his guaranteed meal ticket with the WWE and because he asks for a lot of money to work more than he wants to.

Just wanted to include some perspective on how expensive Jericho would have been for this show if he's legit serious about being paid "six figures" minimum for his appearances and Rey usually asking in the $20k range for his appearances.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Don Callis is an awful announcer.

[Fignuts]

When he starts heeling it up, yeah he's pretty bad. But I've found that when he's taking a more serious play by play approach he's very good. Points out details and follows the action really well. He leaned more that direction during Dominion and at times even overshadowed Kevin Kelly in the role, and I thought the show was better for it.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Don Callis is an awful announcer.

I think what makes him worse is that he thinks he's god's gift to announcing.

[mike adamle]

Lord Cyrus' promo on Keepin' it 100 with Konnan this week where he petitioned to get into the Keepin' it 100 Hall of Fame alongside Ted Irvine was epic.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I think what makes him worse is that he thinks he's god's gift to announcing.

I haven't watched all of Dominion yet, but he fucking sucked at that show. "He won't be able to hit the Superkick..." *half-a-second later* "Superkiiick." He was also making lots of insider references. Fuck that guy.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He is funny on Lance Storm's podcast -- I'll give him that. I just don't want him anywhere near the announcing booth. Kevin Kelly sounded okay, but sometimes there was dead air or he would make a vacuous comment.

[Jordan]

Man I just watched Cody at Dominion.... he didn't come off like the next top contender for the IWGP Heavyweight Championship. I'm quite positive he won't win that belt, but he's got an ROH title shot and then an NWA Championship shot... it's just going to cheapen ALL IN when he loses to Kenny.

[Jordan]

I really do like Cody especially as a wrestling character actor but in the ring he isn't as good as a Naito, Omega, or Okada. He's quite below that.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="in" dir="ltr">Kota Ibushi is All In<br><br>September 1st <a href="https://t.co/v6id7ql76i">pic.twitter.com/v6id7ql76i</a></p>&mdash; All In (@ALL_IN_2018) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALL_IN_2018/status/1007714244647940100?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Jordan]

Nice!

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We can confirm that we have decided in favor of licensing production. So 100% this event will be broadcasted in some capacity. We want as many people to see it as possible! Details in the coming weeks. -Cody, Matt, Nick</p>&mdash; All In (@ALL_IN_2018) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALL_IN_2018/status/1009561573659152385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Jordan]

I will buy it.

[erickman]

I will buy it.

hope it will be on twitch for free

[Jordan]

If they go the "free" route then I hope they get a live broadcast on AXS.

[Simple Fan]

f-UOUryWijY

[JimmyMess]

I will pay for this.

[erickman]

they need to put a twitch camera on josh Mathews and let him film starcast, then set up the twitch cameras for the event.

[Emperor Smeat]

Seems WWE's efforts going after this event are starting to pay off for them.

Already managed to get Deonna Purrazzo pulled due to her signing a deal with them earlier and not being allowed to finish this for any leftover indie commitments.

Rey Mysterio and Chelsea Green (Laurel Van Ness in Impact) are expected to pull out within the near future as well.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Those are honestly improvements for the show, save for Rey.

[Jordan]

Yeah if they pull Rey that stinks but I’m sure they can just get someone else awesome to replace him. The others I don’t even know or care about.

[Destor]

Rey is one of the top free agents there is. He's not really replaceable.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm sure the WWE will put the pressure on Rey to drop out, but to be honest, I see him staying on the card. I can see him having enough of a "boys first" attitude and has enough of a history clashing with Vince on certain things that he'll keep the date. I think it's more the indy talent that have never been there that are more likely to take the money and run. Rey also wanted to leave in the first place, and has no doubt been welcome back for a long, long time. I'd be more surprised to see him take a deal and say "See ya!" as he's running out the door.

More so than replacing Rey, if he is kept off the show, I think that at least babyfaces Cody and co. 99% of the audience would be smart enough to realize how the WWE has tried to sabotage them. It could end up being a skeleton crew and the crowd will probably not hold it against them, although it damages them advertising anything next time.

[Emperor Smeat]

Those are honestly improvements for the show, save for Rey.

Losing Purrazzo is also a big blow considering she's supposedly one of the best female stars in the indies and someone ROH regarded very highly enough to regain interest in women's wrestling.

[Destor]

She isnt a draw. Theyll be fine.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Losing Purrazzo is also a big blow considering she's supposedly one of the best female stars in the indies and someone ROH regarded very highly enough to regain interest in women's wrestling.

I honestly thought she was a Tough Enough girl. I don't think there is that much interest in ROH let alone women's wrestling in ROH. They could probably just get Tenille Dashwood to come out and do a t-shirt spot and no one would notice a thing.

[erickman]

Losing Purrazzo is also a big blow considering she's supposedly one of the best female stars in the indies and someone ROH regarded very highly enough to regain interest in women's wrestling.

well I hope wwe uses her and not bury her, I am glad to see she got the wwe call up. all in will have more impact knockouts now.

[Emperor Smeat]

I honestly thought she was a Tough Enough girl. I don't think there is that much interest in ROH let alone women's wrestling in ROH. They could probably just get Tenille Dashwood to come out and do a t-shirt spot and no one would notice a thing.

She worked for the WWE a few years ago in NXT but mostly as a jobber. Then came back for last year's MYC but wasn't used in the tournament and left again.

ROH saw enough in her as a potential big star that they revived their women's division after signing her and laid the foundation for their eventual partnership with Stardom and Women of Honor championship belt. Only other female star with as much importance to ROH's women division in recent years is Sumie Sakai.

[Mr. Nerfect]

She worked for the WWE a few years ago in NXT but mostly as a jobber. Then came back for last year's MYC but wasn't used in the tournament and left again.

ROH saw enough in her as a potential big star that they revived their women's division after signing her and laid the foundation for their eventual partnership with Stardom and Women of Honor championship belt. Only other female star with as much importance to ROH's women division in recent years is Sumie Sakai.

I hear what you're saying, but I think we disagree on the semantics of "big star." And I think you're putting the cart before the horse in relation to them basing this division around her. Are you sure it's a case of "This Purrazzo woman is AMAZING! We NEED to build an entire division around HER!" and not "We're going to do something with women. Which women are available to us?" And if she was that valuable, wouldn't she be under some sort of fixed contract? I knew that ROH finally got a women's champion, but I didn't realize that it was drawing them any big money or anything.

[Destor]

And "important"

[Mr. Nerfect]

I mean, to me, it's like if ROH started a Cruiserweight Division and featured Cheeseburger, and then WWE got Cheeseburger. Cheeseburger's not a big star just because he is a tiny guy that was available for ROH's tiny guy division.

[Mr. Nerfect]

And "important"

Yeah, I've not felt any major interest coming out of this Women of Honor thing. It feels like something they could scrap tomorrow and no one would really give a shit.

[Emperor Smeat]

I hear what you're saying, but I think we disagree on the semantics of "big star." And I think you're putting the cart before the horse in relation to them basing this division around her. Are you sure it's a case of "This Purrazzo woman is AMAZING! We NEED to build an entire division around HER!" and not "We're going to do something with women. Which women are available to us?" And if she was that valuable, wouldn't she be under some sort of fixed contract? I knew that ROH finally got a women's champion, but I didn't realize that it was drawing them any big money or anything.

That's pretty much the reason they signed her for in 2015. She was used as a showcase for women's wrestling in ROH and eventually lead to bigger things for them afterwards.

In terms of status or drawing power, they are probably comparable to early NXT's women's era or TNA/Impact's early Knockouts era. Its something still building up its rep and hasn't reached a critical Sasha-Bayley NXT moment yet.

At least with her last contract, it was a fixed one but for some reason ROH also included an opt out clause for her. She might also be more of the Kota Ibushi type in terms of sticking around in companies.


Yeah, I've not felt any major interest coming out of this Women of Honor thing. It feels like something they could scrap tomorrow and no one would really give a shit.
That's mainly due to ROH's booker being terrible with his handling of it to the point there were rumors Stardom was considering backing out of their partnership deal.

[Mr. Nerfect]

What big things though? By your own admission of the terrible booking, it's been a non-factor. She's been there three years and I've barely even heard of her. I was at least interesting enough in the NXT and TNA women to check them out. Nothing besides screen-grabs of Emma have made it into my scope. It sounds like she's just a talent that was hired because they wanted women as another gimmick on the show. Which is fine and fair enough, but I don't think it's "big" or "important" in any sense of the world compared to anything else. Just like the six-man tag belts they've got there aren't a big deal. Or the ROH World Title really isn't a big deal. What in ROH is even big?

[Destor]

Sounds like theyre advertising it as important. Marketing isnt reality though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Sounds like theyre advertising it as important. Marketing isnt reality though.

That's a succinct way of getting to my point. ROH can call her the hottest thing since baked bread all they want, but when ROH is only drawing the audience it is, how big can it possibly even be?

[Destor]

In any case losing her will cost them $0 and the same ammount of eyeballs. Its irrelevant. She might have been able to win people over on the show but atthe end of the day thenshow had more of a chance at getting her over than she had a chance to get the show over.

The show loses nothing but a potential that has no quantifiable value.

Rey is another topic.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It'll be interesting to see what happens there. It would seem kind of odd for Rey to cancel a date, but WWE are obviously going to put the pressure on, and he's obviously agreed to some shit, given his pre-order bonus status for the game.

[slik]

As Kenny's show in Daytona showed, it doesn't really matter what 'names' they get as long as it's a good/well put together show.

Which I think it will be.

[#1-norm-fan]

Not gonna lie, I'm kinda intrigued as far as how WWE will use Rey. I'm sure he'll be "just another guy" within a month but... surely they don't relegate him to 205 Live. Do they just bring him in to feud with someone like The Drifter? Do they put him in the title scene on Smackdown?

[Destor]

As Kenny's show in Daytona showed, it doesn't really matter what 'names' they get as long as it's a good/well put together show.

Which I think it will be.

No idea what you mean. That show had Naito and Omega on it. Those are two of the biggest names in the business

[Destor]

Luddites.

Its the internet age guys. You dont need TV anymore.

[Destor]

Side bar: Legit think twitchand YouTube have a big role to play in what wrestling turns into from here. Been saying this for about a year now. Omega was the frst to test it. Stream held 10k+ through out plus the gate which was what 8k?

This is all very infantile but a good decent product could balloon quickly.

[Vastardikai]

Side bar: Legit think twitchand YouTube have a big role to play in what wrestling turns into from here. Been saying this for about a year now. Omega was the frst to test it. Stream held 10k+ through out plus the gate which was what 8k?

This is all very infantile but a good decent product could balloon quickly.

Wrestling, historically, has always been one of the first adopters of mediums. It was one of the first to be on network television. As stations went national, so did wrestling. Cable is one of the main reasons why Vince's hair brained scheme worked.

So it stands to reason that Wrestling would debut on Twitch before long. And it could actually change the idea of promotion forever.

[slik]

No idea what you mean. That show had Naito and Omega on it. Those are two of the biggest names in the business

Big names to NJPW fans, yes, but not to WWE fans.

Omega showed you don't have to load the card w/ former WWE main-eventers so Cody will be just fine w/o Rey.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">C’mon guys!<br>You didn’t think we’d be all out, did you?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SCU?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SCU</a> is <a href="https://twitter.com/ALL_IN_2018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ALL_IN_2018</a> <br>Coming to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheWorstTownIveEverBeenIn?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheWorstTownIveEverBeenIn</a><br>September 1 <a href="https://t.co/dr3IS2nDZv">pic.twitter.com/dr3IS2nDZv</a></p>&mdash; Christopher Daniels (@facdaniels) <a href="https://twitter.com/facdaniels/status/1014901762912731137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Innovator]

SCU!

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Villain -VS- The Rainmaker <br><br>September 1st <a href="https://t.co/Xl7taTaOJR">pic.twitter.com/Xl7taTaOJR</a></p>&mdash; All In (@ALL_IN_2018) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALL_IN_2018/status/1014993036177281024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[screech]

Side bar: Legit think twitchand YouTube have a big role to play in what wrestling turns into from here. Been saying this for about a year now. Omega was the frst to test it. Stream held 10k+ through out plus the gate which was what 8k?

This is all very infantile but a good decent product could balloon quickly.

Watched the impact/lucha underground crossover WM weekend on twitch. It was great. Would definitely watch rasslin on twitch again.

[Simple Fan]

I like the Villain but was hoping for an Okada vs Pentagon match. I'd say Pentagon and Fenix will probably face the Young Bucks.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Big names to NJPW fans, yes, but not to WWE fans.

Omega showed you don't have to load the card w/ former WWE main-eventers so Cody will be just fine w/o Rey.

They're not drawing the WWE audience though. It's not so much that Rey is a former WWE name (which would help with walk-ups and people in Chicago, but tickets have already been sold), but it's more so that he's one of the GOAT his inclusion is so important. He's part of so many memories in ECW, WCW and WWE for those fans. Omega and Naito are the hot thing for the internet audience and can do no wrong right now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">C’mon guys!<br>You didn’t think we’d be all out, did you?<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SCU?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SCU</a> is <a href="https://twitter.com/ALL_IN_2018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ALL_IN_2018</a> <br>Coming to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheWorstTownIveEverBeenIn?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheWorstTownIveEverBeenIn</a><br>September 1 <a href="https://t.co/dr3IS2nDZv">pic.twitter.com/dr3IS2nDZv</a></p>&mdash; Christopher Daniels (@facdaniels) <a href="https://twitter.com/facdaniels/status/1014901762912731137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 5, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I love Christopher Daniels. My god does Kazarian look different though. Not bad different, but he looks a lot rougher now.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Would genuinely love SCU to kick the doors down in WWE and go against The Shield or something. Or The Bullet Club on SmackDown, as much as I'm not interested in the side players in that unit.

[Evil Vito]

They'd have Scorpio Sky re-emerge as Harold and cost Team Hell No their tag title match.

[Evil Vito]

I do love Christopher Daniels. I remember retirement rumors started floating around with him when he was around his 40th birthday.

Now here he is still plugging along at nearly 50 and still churning out good matches.

[Mr. Nerfect]

He cut a promo before a Ladder War or something that actually got me to buy a ROH PPV. I couldn't get through the whole thing in order to get to that actual match, but I contributed my money.

[Simple Fan]

Flip Gordon vs Nick Aldis for the NWA Worlds Heaveyweight Championship has been booked for Honor For All on July 20th.

[Innovator]

LETS GO FLIP

[Destor]

That could be any indy show anywhere

[Big Vic]

This PPV still hasn't happened?

[Lock Jaw]

With a name like Flip Gordon, I expect him to pretty much never walk or run, but to just flip everywhere.

[Simple Fan]

This PPV still hasn't happened?

September 1st and I'm thinking that it will air on AXS TV instead of PPV.

[Destor]

That would be a mistake

[Simple Fan]

They talked about it on the most recent episode of All Us. AXS TV gets a special thanks in the credits but might just be because most of that was filmed when they were doing the NJPW marathon. Don't know but I think more people would see it on AXS TV than they would if its a PPV.

f-UOUryWijY

[screech]

I don't even know what AXS TV is.

Are iPPVs still a thing? Or have they migrated to twitch and stuff (which would probably be better, really)?

[Jordan]

Cody told Dave they are going to either do traditional PPV or iPPV, not TV.

[Destor]

iPPV would be best unless they could get PPV on the cheap.

[Jordan]

I'm watching Being The Elite.... I really hate how pro wrestler "act" and put on this boisterous way of talking. It's as if they want "the whole room" to pay attention to their act, rather than just be natural on camera and have a conversation with truth moment to moment. Bad acting. Bad bad bad.

[Jordan]

If you don't know what I'm talking about watch Marty Scurl and Jericho at the beginning of this weeks Being The Elite.

[Jordan]

It's a pretty damn slick move for Jericho to make himself a part of all this though. And I'm not being critical of Jericho's acting or delivery, specifically everyone else in the Bullet Club except Cody.

[Jordan]

LOL actually it's just Marty Scurl. I have given him a lot of chances and he doesn't do it for me.

[Jordan]

Not gonna lie, I'm kinda intrigued as far as how WWE will use Rey. I'm sure he'll be "just another guy" within a month but... surely they don't relegate him to 205 Live. Do they just bring him in to feud with someone like The Drifter? Do they put him in the title scene on Smackdown?

Rey can have so many fresh programs in WWE right now. Obvious dream matches aside (Styles, Joe, Nakamaura, Rollins) imagine the fun we could have with Rey vs Kevin Owens and something with Braun Strowman. It's time for Rey Rey to go to the E. He's cool in these other promotions but WWE is where he belongs.

[Jordan]

LOL

Cody - "I mean what the hell is Haku's problem!?"

Page - "He's a piece of shit".

LOL pretty good.

[terryna]

vote : Loose Cannonhttp://gshort.click/isna/12/o.png

[Simple Fan]

LOL actually it's just Marty Scurl. I have given him a lot of chances and he doesn't do it for me.

He's a singer at heart not an actor.

[Jordan]

Goddamn I actually googled that.

[Vastardikai]

LOL

Cody - "I mean what the hell is Haku's problem!?"

Page - "He's a piece of shit".

LOL pretty good.

I get this feeling that, next time we see Adam, part of,him will be missing.

[Innovator]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjcMlU6XoAEMeqw.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjcMlU8W0AAnkF4.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjcMlU5XoAAyB51.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjcMlU3XcAAi2to.jpg

[Sixx]

Only if he wrestles The Rock.

[Lock Jaw]

Literally don't know the faces of most of those people.

I know Rhodes/Magnus, and Mysterio.

I think that might be the Young Bucks and Kota Ibushi? If that was his name, the dude who was in the CWC.

[Simple Fan]

Going to be interesting to see what Pentagon is doing. Thought the Lucha Bros would take on the Young Bucks but that 6 MSN should be good. Never seen Bandido wrestle.

[Sixx]

Literally don't know the faces of most of those people.

I know Rhodes/Magnus, and Mysterio.

I think that might be the Young Bucks and Kota Ibushi? If that was his name, the dude who was in the CWC.

Isn't that John Morrison in the last one?

[Sixx]

Well, looksmore like a young Bret Hart but still.

[slik]

Literally don't know the faces of most of those people.

I know Rhodes/Magnus, and Mysterio.

I think that might be the Young Bucks and Kota Ibushi? If that was his name, the dude who was in the CWC.


You are correct, re: Young Bucks/Ibushi

[Evil Vito]

Isn't that John Morrison in the last one?

That's Joey Janela vs. Hangman Page

[slik]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjcMlU5XoAAyB51.jpg



"Okada Be Kidding Me" -- Michael Cole r/n, practicing for Okada being in WWE someday prolly

[Innovator]

Young Bucks and Kota Ibushi vs. Rey Mysterio, Bandido, and Fenix

[Innovator]

Going to be interesting to see what Pentagon is doing. Thought the Lucha Bros would take on the Young Bucks but that 6 MSN should be good. Never seen Bandido wrestle.

Holding out hope for Omega vs. Pentagon

[slik]

I wonder if ZSJ or Sanada will be on this show

[Heisenberg]

Literally don't know the faces of most of those people.

I know Rhodes/Magnus, and Mysterio.

I think that might be the Young Bucks and Kota Ibushi? If that was his name, the dude who was in the CWC.



Give Hangman Page a chance or else he will strangle and pummel you with a rotary phone

[Innovator]

He'll kill for a chance

[Simple Fan]

Holding out hope for Omega vs. Pentagon

That would be cool, hadn't thought of that one. Originally was wanting to see Okada vs Pentagon but Kenny vs Pentagon might be even better.

[slik]

I think Hangman Page could be one of the next big things in rasslin tbh

[Innovator]

Tanahashi hyped Hangman up after their match, said he wants to teach him and break him away from BC

[Sixx]

I think Hangman Page could be one of the next big things in rasslin tbh

Walking around with a noose on his neck might be dangerous.

[Jordan]

Is anyone for our forum going to ALL IN? Hope so, I wish I was going. But I don't like to travel to see Wrestling.

[slik]

Is anyone for our forum going to ALL IN? Hope so, I wish I was going. But I don't like to travel to see Wrestling.

I bought a ticket but looks like I'll moving that weekend so I'll probably be selling it on stubhub in a week or so.

[Jordan]

Agh bummer.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hangman Page is good and still really young, but I don't think anything overly special in him. Is there a particular showing I should check out, or is it just a general vibe people get?

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I bought a ticket but looks like I'll moving that weekend so I'll probably be selling it on stubhub in a week or so.

Just tweet Cody this. Maybe he'll pay somebody else to do your move for you

[#1-norm-fan]

Marty Scurll seems like a waste of Okada.

[Simple Fan]

I like Marty but I felt the same way.

[Emperor Smeat]

I think Hangman Page could be one of the next big things in rasslin tbh

NJPW feels the same considering he has the same showcase treatment Tama Tonga got for last year's G1. Didn't work out in the end for Tama but Hangman has been showing better star potential than Tama did.


Marty Scurll seems like a waste of Okada.
Supposedly this has been something both have wanted to do for a while but couldn't because of usual ROH and NJPW reasons.

[Fignuts]

NJPW feels the same considering he has the same showcase treatment Tama Tonga got for last year's G1. Didn't work out in the end for Tama but Hangman has been showing better star potential than Tama did.



Supposedly this has been something both have wanted to do for a while but couldn't because of usual ROH and NJPW reasons.

I dunno, I like Rama more. Feel like he has more of a unique character and mannerisms and adds more to the diversity of the roster.

Page is great, don't get me wrong but at the moment he feels more like an everyday Indy guy, where as I can't think of anyone else that's like Rama Tonga.

[Fignuts]

Fucking auto correct keeps turning tama Tonga into rama Tonga.

[Emperor Smeat]

I dunno, I like Rama more. Feel like he has more of a unique character and mannerisms and adds more to the diversity of the roster.

Page is great, don't get me wrong but at the moment he feels more like an everyday Indy guy, where as I can't think of anyone else that's like Rama Tonga.

He's the better of the two in those terms but NJPW gave up on the idea of making Tama into a bigger star. What hurt him was he only got a little praise for his G1 run last year while Hangman has been getting a lot for his run this year.

Even been speculated this stuff with the OG BC won't lead to anything major for Tama after the BC Civil War is over.

[Destor]

Tama is legit good. loads of personality and can really go.

[Evil Vito]

Lolllllllll Downstait did the theme for the show

[Evil Vito]

Hangman Page is good and still really young, but I don't think anything overly special in him. Is there a particular showing I should check out, or is it just a general vibe people get?

Really enjoyed Hangman/Okada in the G1.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Really enjoyed Hangman/Okada in the G1.

Thanks. :y:

[Theo]

Triple H sold out too

Tickets for the Triple H and Stephanie McMahon meet and greet at the Barclays Center on August 17th in Brooklyn, New York, just two days before the WWE SummerSlam pay-per-view sold out within a minute of them going on sale yesterday.

[Swiss Ultimate]

Triple H sold out too

Tickets for the Triple H and Stephanie McMahon meet and greet at the Barclays Center on August 17th in Brooklyn, New York, just two days before the WWE SummerSlam pay-per-view sold out within a minute of them going on sale yesterday.

WHO?

[erickman]

wonder how many people will shell out 79 bucks for starcast on fite app not many I bet.

[Simple Fan]

All In will be on PPV and the FITE app. Also the first hour will be free on WGN America.

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[erickman]

wgn that's a hard to get network

[owenbrown]

So there's a possibility Cody walks out of there as the new NWA World Champion?

[Evil Vito]

I'd be shocked if Cody didn't win the belt tbh

[Evil Vito]

Heart sank seeing the Bucks standing in front of Full Sail. DON'T DO IT

[Simple Fan]

I don't think they'll go, no way they pass up doing ROH's Garden show. If they do though I think they'd have more success than Gallows and Anderson have.

[erickman]

it looked to me they were invading full sail

[Simple Fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Official! ROH World Champion Jay Lethal will defend his title against the winner of the Over Budget Battle Royale...<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ZEROHOUR?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ZEROHOUR</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ALLIN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ALLIN</a> <a href="https://t.co/MmGkeZ8H71">pic.twitter.com/MmGkeZ8H71</a></p>&mdash; All In (@ALL_IN_2018) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALL_IN_2018/status/1026947329197318144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Simple Fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">(Announced today on “ALL US” here <a href="https://t.co/RG3Y8q2qeg">https://t.co/RG3Y8q2qeg</a> )<br><br>Madison - Tessa - Britt - Chelsea<br><br>September 1st <a href="https://t.co/WfsDg9BOjG">pic.twitter.com/WfsDg9BOjG</a></p>&mdash; All In (@ALL_IN_2018) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALL_IN_2018/status/1026918607740198912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Mr. Nerfect]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">(Announced today on “ALL US” here <a href="https://t.co/RG3Y8q2qeg">https://t.co/RG3Y8q2qeg</a> )<br><br>Madison - Tessa - Britt - Chelsea<br><br>September 1st <a href="https://t.co/WfsDg9BOjG">pic.twitter.com/WfsDg9BOjG</a></p>&mdash; All In (@ALL_IN_2018) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALL_IN_2018/status/1026918607740198912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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This just in, Britt and Chelsea have been signed to WWE developmental contracts.

[Simple Fan]

Just realized that All In is going on at the same time Louisville vs Alabama kickoff the college football season. Will probably watch the game first and then All In afterwards.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Haven’t seen “All Us” this week yet? Boom! Click the link.<a href="https://t.co/xv2oCvWUEd">https://t.co/xv2oCvWUEd</a> <a href="https://t.co/AYhooiBXOI">pic.twitter.com/AYhooiBXOI</a></p>&mdash; Cody Rhodes (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1027731317834829824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Theo]

Pentagon v Omega in semi-main-event.

I happy for the guys. But the card is pretty weak comparing to NJPW shows or even Impact.

[Simple Fan]

I think the card is stacking up pretty good. Omega/Pentagon and Cody/Aldis should both be good. Six man match should be exciting. Page vs Joey Janela could also be a surprise. I wasn't real thrilled about Okada/Scrull but they'll probably have a good match. Plus there's a battle royal.

[Simple Fan]

Just cool visual, crazy that this is actually a possibility in wrestling today.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kenny Omega -VS- Pentagon <br><br>September 1st <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ALLin?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ALLin</a> <a href="https://t.co/3ej5rn659z">pic.twitter.com/3ej5rn659z</a></p>&mdash; All In (@ALL_IN_2018) <a href="https://twitter.com/ALL_IN_2018/status/1028665082392207360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[Mr. Nerfect]

Omega vs. Pentagon is actually probably the match I am most excited for. They seem to be setting things up to be sleepers.

[Swiss Ultimate]

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