Octopath Traveler

[Ultra Mantis]

Just a general idea would be good as to what they are. Like obviously some of them will have the job shrines I know are coming in order to dual-class characters. And I know at least some of them are side quest related as I've gotten a side quest that gave has ended up with me inquiring the location of what I assume is a optional boss and it's located in one of the level 25 optional areas. I just want to basically know whether I will eventually end up going into them on quests or not or if I should go out of my way to traverse them for upgrades/levelling. I'm a whore for things like this, and if they are purely optional and just for upgrades I already know I'm going to go dungeon diving before I progress the story lol but I don't want to go into them for nothing if they are used later on because I hate backtracking.

Some of them are for sidequests, some of them just have loot / optional bosses / XP grind. The optional bosses can actually be captured but they have very low percentage. Story dungeons are all blocked off with sign posts until you have to go there.

[Destor]

Most of the rando caves are purely optional or tied to sidequests. Many have bosses organically and many have bosses tied to sidequest. But few caves "on the way" to missions are story areas. Most story areas are connected to towns and have no alternate routes in.

[Ruien]

Wish I could go back in time and buy the collector's edition instead.

[Destor]

Its def a game that i love enough for a collectors.


All standard sub jobs acquired and 2 ch2s left.

[Ruien]

Starting to use my B team and do their chapter 3s. B team is Tressa, Ophilia, Hannit, and Therion.

[Sepholio]

3/4 of your B team is my A team haha

[Ruien]

Therion was on my A team until I did not need his SP steal and share. Ophilia would be on my A team but Olberic as a paladin is amazing. Healing is based off ele def.

[Ruien]

Reslly though there are so many viable comps.

[Destor]

everyone is viable. i use them all pretty evenly. scholar is obviously the best job in the game though.

[Destor]

i have primrose at level 40 as scholar with a elm attack of 750. its stupid and awesome.

[Destor]

double hit spells cost her 1sp after regen.

[Ruien]

Wait till you get the sorcerer. Omg.

[Sepholio]

I just started getting the basic secondary jobs. Do you lose the skills you have unlocked for your secondary jobs if you switch to another one on the same character? Obviously you cant use them if you don't have the job set as your secondary, but are they still unlocked if you switch back to said job later?

[Ruien]

Yes they are still unlocked.

You are able to use the passive abilities even after switching too.

[Destor]

they stay unlocked. you keep the passives even if you switch classes

[Destor]

ruien sniped me

[Ultra Mantis]

Finished all Ch3s, then explored my first Ch4 zone and found a shrine... boss fucked me up hard haha. I'm Lv50 with Phili, but everyone else is 40-44, totally not ready for this. My Scholars have started hitting low too, need some new gear.

[Ultra Mantis]

My Ch3 rankings:


Alfyn
Olberic
Cyrus
Ophilia
Primrose
H'aanit
Therion
Tressa

Aocophtt Traveler. Hmm.

[Ultra Mantis]

My "A" team is Ophilia, Alfyn, Prim and H'aanit I guess. Everyone gets cycled into rotation though, usually go through all the party banter and whoever the last two are end up doing the dungeon. Constantly hoping Therion gets his snark in first.

[Destor]

Finished all Ch3s, then explored my first Ch4 zone and found a shrine... boss fucked me up hard haha. I'm Lv50 with Phili, but everyone else is 40-44, totally not ready for this. My Scholars have started hitting low too, need some new gear.

Those are my levels and im doing the last ch2 now... :$

Whats your scholars elm attack? Curious to see where i should be trying to get to

[Ruien]

Finally finished all the chapter 3s.

Dislike Tressa and Alfynna the most.

Only have the 4 chapter 4s now from my b team. I heard there is a final boss too so I guess I have that left too.

My official A team would be Olberic Ophelia, Prim, and Cyrus. The aoe healing is 10000% better than single heals.

[Destor]

Major spoiler on that post i cant unread :(

[Ultra Mantis]

Those are my levels and im doing the last ch2 now... :$

Whats your scholars elm attack? Curious to see where i should be trying to get to

Cyrus is Lv40, Elem Atk 412.
Prim is Lv44, Elem Atk 371.

Neither has optimal gear though, haven't been stealing from the common folk so don't know if I missed anything great.

[Ultra Mantis]

Healing is like the least useful thing Alfyn does. I mean, he can do a full heal, single target unboosted if you really want him to, but he's really there to break guard and then break damage limit.

[Ruien]

Major spoiler on that post i cant unread :(

Crap, I am sorry. If it matters i dunno if it's TRUE? :'(

[Destor]

Cyrus is Lv40, Elem Atk 412.
Prim is Lv44, Elem Atk 371.

Neither has optimal gear though, haven't been stealing from the common folk so don't know if I missed anything great.
most the top gear is from stealing/trading

im 750 elm attack because i have a rod that does like 350.

elm def on my healer is 680 due to armor i stole.

def what youre missing.

Healing is like the least useful thing Alfyn does. I mean, he can do a full heal, single target unboosted if you really want him to, but he's really there to break guard and then break damage limit.single target heal is nice in a pinch. and dancer can make it a party heal...prob the strongest heal in the game really but apoc shines in its axe skills and the sp regen imo

Crap, I am sorry. If it matters i dunno if it's TRUE? :'(

is what it is. :y:

[Destor]

I think one was in gold shore and the other in victors hollow but dont hold me to that

[Destor]

Possibly stome guard. But im reasonably certain one of those three

[road doggy dogg]

I love this game. Some of the writing in it is absolutely atrocious though. But the gameplay is fun enough that I don't care.

Tressa #1 too baby

[Destor]

H'aanit's dialogue is bad but the characters and story are good despite it. Other than that the writing is top shelf.

TRESSA IS SO CUTE I CANT STAND IT

[road doggy dogg]

I like a lot of it, but ya everything about H'aanit's dialogue is just so fucking bad. I find a lot of the Chapter 1 stuff is kinda meh but once I've gotten to Chapter 2 on a lot of the characters the dialogue has improved a lot.

[Fignuts]

Is the free prologue its own separate thing, or is it part of the full release?

[Destor]

The 2nd demo is 3 hours of play of the full game with no restrictions other than the time before it locks you out. Save carriers over.

[Ruien]

Finished all of chapter 4. Rankings below for stories.


Olberic by far. Felt epic.
Primrose. Was done beautifully
Ophelia. Cant believe this made my top 3 but it stopped up big time in chapter 3 and 4.
Cyrus. Was well done and each chapter worked well together.
Haanit. same as Cyrus.
Therion. Last 2 chapter were good but not enough to save the entire story.
Tressa and Aly are both bad so they can share the last spot.

[Ruien]

Overall the game is amazing. Disliked a chunk of the dialogue though. only major complaint is having the silent heroes. Major drawback from having 8 different stories.

Maybe next game they can have duo chapters after chapter 1 or something. Like Cyrus and Olberic would be chapter 2 and Cyrus and Therion would be chapter 3.

Loved the extra dungeons legit being extra. you could easily skip them if you wanted. Combat was awesome. Extra shrine fights were legit. Side quests were unique for the most part. they never seemed repetitive.

9/10. Its awesome when you have to look hard to find flaws in a game.

[Ultra Mantis]

Ophilia's Ch4 boss is absolute fucking bullshit. Can't even leave town to get better gear, going to have to walk all the way back through this cave to change my party I guess. What a waste of an hour. Ugh.

[Destor]

just beat an optional boss that took me 2 hours and like 200k plus all my best items.

Forrest of no return lvl 48

what a fucking fight. haanit is lvl 56 apoc. cyrus is lvl 46 merchant. prim is lvl 46 scholar. tressa is lvl 46 cleric.

first few goes the raw damage im taking is just too much. i cant dish out dps fast enough to deplete this 300k hp and his weaknesses change 3 times after you break him so im learning patterns as i get wrecked.

so around the 3rd or 4th death i figure that since i have cleric job with me i can teach everyone saving grace and since i hace merchant maxed on everyone second chance too.

so once someone falls i use the large revive item for an over heal of 9,999 which lets me tank the damage.

in most cases thats a GG. but his third phase only has 2 weaknesses. swords and light. i have light but my only sword is merchants hire help...so i do. id break him with the 150g summon and once broke dish max bp with the 30k summon.

my non merchants are dealing light and wind damage (wind for the adds) with items until i literally ran out

did the job but i fucking earned that win.

most fun ive had in a game since persona.

[Destor]

Ophilia's Ch4 boss is absolute fucking bullshit. Can't even leave town to get better gear, going to have to walk all the way back through this cave to change my party I guess. What a waste of an hour. Ugh.

bull shit rng or just powerful?

[Ultra Mantis]

Multi-turn AOE magic, LV50 backup summons including 2x elementals, break immunity, seals magic, full party unconscious, four turn speed / magic / atk / def buff as one move. He's WAY more powerful than the enemies in his dungeon. Struggled against him for 45 mins, got him in red and then he did his ult, got 2 free turns on me and all I could do was watch him and his backup fuck my team.

[Destor]

that sounds really awesome not gonna lie

[Ultra Mantis]

Haven't been railed that hard by a boss since SMT Nocturne.

[Destor]

Go to the forest of no return in Victor's Hollow. I need a metric to judge this by :lol:

[Ruien]

What I noticed for most bosses.


It seems the longer the fight the more powerful the boss becomes for the longer boss fights.

For the ones who dont have much health hit hard and fast. Need to break them asap.

[Destor]

Absolutely true. Giving a boss time is deadly especially if you're even a few levels below the recommended level. I. FUCKING. LOVE IT.

[Ruien]

Ya. The Warmaster was omg. I figured I was fine because Olberic would out heal his damage. Give that boss enough turns and it is good game.

[Ultra Mantis]

Go to the forest of no return in Victor's Hollow. I need a metric to judge this by :lol:

Haha I will when (if?) I beat him, haven't had the time to go on since until right now. Think I'm going to need to go back to the tavern for Prim to stand any chance here.

[Ultra Mantis]

Oh I can fast travel again now so that's not as bad as I thought.

[Ultra Mantis]

Tracked down some of those high end weapons and bought them outright, because I am rich now. Prim is doing good damage again, Olberic has a cursed sword so hopefully he doesn't buff the boss. Taught Olberic and Alfyn the SP regen dancer passive to help with sustain. Equiped some resistance gear to the elements I'm going to have thrown at me. Yep, ready to get my ass kicked again.

[Destor]

Thats the sign of a great job based rpg right there

[Ultra Mantis]

Managed to turn the tables on him and pretty much squash him. Prim is so much better than Cyrus, her speed was crucial to getting turns in before he had a chance to put his guard up and throw all his shit at me. Dbl Blk via Ophilia + Alfyn's concoct gave me some fast breaks, and the extra summon I had covered my lack of bows. Such a satisfying victory.

I'm at the forest of no return boss right now, switched my shitty Cyrus back in to get a more fair comparison.

[Destor]

prim is my primary black mage too. she's really outstanding. plus she can the jp/xp farm if youre feeling grindy

[Ultra Mantis]

Forest boss is harder, purely for the Spirited Away gimmick & switching weakness. It took three of my team and then triple teamed the last one, no way of surviving that. At least it was quick about it. :lol:. If I could get rid of the minions I think I could take him. Prim over Cyrus though of course.

[Destor]

i found it really difficult. my spoiler up there details the lengths i went to to beat him...it was great.

[Ultra Mantis]

Haha think I'm gonna swap out Olberic for H'aanit, Cyrus for Prim and then give it another shot. H'aanit's roster is probably empty right now though.

[Destor]

just make sure to bring a sword

[Destor]

Decided to clear out some of the caves and side quests before going on to Chapter 3, was doing great stomping everything... and then I went in Undertow Cave near Rippletown. I am terrified.

gonna tackle this

[Ruien]

Ya..... just found a boss who wrecked the living shit out of my team. Somewhat my fault for not having Saving Grace on Haanit but I still got butt fucked. Was the first boss since chapter 3 that I got wrecked like this. Love this game. Sad I am almost done :(

[Destor]

its so rare to get a good jrpg...but i really think theres going to be more in the next few years

[Ruien]

100% there will be. This game is selling like hot cakes.

If we can end up getting 2 or 3 per year I will be set.

Really need go check out this Brave Default or whatever game I keep hearing about with Octopath too.

[Ruien]

Well nevermind it is a 3ds game.

[Destor]

bravely is by the same team. ill get it i think at some point

[Destor]

gonna tackle this

no boss in here. area by a chest that usually means non-sidequest related boss fight but there was none. odd

[Ruien]

I thought the same thing.

[Ultra Mantis]

Fuck, Devourer of Men in the Forest of No Return is a real bastard.



Prim wasn't really much use at all since none of her elemental magic really comes into play, went full Physical, took out his backup one at a time, slowly but steadily blasted away at his massive health pool. Was coasting to an easy win, then he calls for more help and I'm out of large Olives. Kept docusing on the big guy and got him down to red but I just wasn't hitting hard enough to take him out in time. Wiped me. Five star match. But I lost.

[Ultra Mantis]

Gonna try a new Ch4 instead and hope the boss there doesn't annihilate me.

[Destor]

Fuck, Devourer of Men in the Forest of No Return is a real bastard.



Prim wasn't really much use at all since none of her elemental magic really comes into play, went full Physical, took out his backup one at a time, slowly but steadily blasted away at his massive health pool. Was coasting to an easy win, then he calls for more help and I'm out of large Olives. Kept docusing on the big guy and got him down to red but I just wasn't hitting hard enough to take him out in time. Wiped me. Five star match. But I lost.
The use i got from prim was little too...left her dead on the floor for the last dozen or so rounds lol

[Destor]

She waa using items too i guess.

[Ultra Mantis]

Thinking of going H'aanit w/ Merchant next time I try it, the wind coverage and extra AOE sword skill would really help.

[Ultra Mantis]

Finished Cyrus Ch4. Really good stuff, nice change from getting plowed.

(Contains Ophilia Ch4 spoilers too)


There is a definite link between these stories, the power of the sealed god plays a huge part in both of the Ch4s I've completed. Mathias was even drawing from it directly. This leads me to believe there is an end game bringing the whole group together to stop the dark god breaking free of his seal. Interested to see if this theme appears in the other six Ch4s. Hornburg keeps coming up with Cyrus too so going to assume Olberic is involved, the Therion dragonstone plot seems to allude to it too. Prim could easily head in that direction. Alfyn, Tressa and H'aanit on the other hand remain a mystery.

[Destor]

I didnt even think of using her cat summon for sword...damn it

[Ruien]

Found the hardest boss for me yet. Forest of Purgatory. Level like 54 place. Boss wrecked my face and caused me to switch teams/jobs 4 times.

Typically I avoid super cheesy tactics but I ended up using Runelord Tressa to beat the boss. I had to. Was getting butt fucked with any other strat or group I put out there.

[Ultra Mantis]

I didnt even think of using her cat summon for sword...damn it

It's not as useful as Hired Help tbf, when it has it's backup on the field Linde uses the single target spear attack half the time. Can't multi hit boost her either.

[Ruien]

Arg.

Major

Went and did the last dungeon type of deal. No save points. Have to beat 8 previous then you go to the final boss. I got stomped on but now I have to beat the 8 scrub bosses again which takes like an hour or so.

No save point from the 8 bosses to the main boss. So annoying. Last boss rolled my ass hard too.

[Destor]

Well i wont be clicking that lol

[Ruien]

<3

Trying to figure out the best jobs for each person so I can just leave everyone with their job and equipment on. Instead of going through the process each time I switch people in and out.

Using
Olberic Cleric
Prim Sorceress
Cyrus Dancer
Hannit Scholar
Therion Warmaster
Tressa Runelord
Ophelia Starseer
Alf Thief

[Ultra Mantis]

no boss in here. area by a chest that usually means non-sidequest related boss fight but there was none. odd

There's a sidequest for Undertow Cave once you finish a certain Ch4.

It's Cyrus.But there is still no boss.

[Ultra Mantis]

I unintentionally started doing chapter 4s in OCTOPATH order: Ophilia, Cyrus, Tressa. Decided to continue that way and it's really cool how each Ch4 reveals another piece of the puzzle. Not sure if the PATH side will follow suite, but the first half in that order is incredible.

Also I noticed that the major secondary character in each story could possibly spell out TRAVELER. Not sure if that is a co-incidence with the half I've completed or if the other four actually fit the pattern. Maybe not. Dunno.

[Ultra Mantis]

Tressa Ch4 (also contains spoils on previous Ch4s)

God dammit Tressa, you win a trillion leaves and you put it in a trust fund!?!?! I could of bought loads of cool shit with that! This one is a lot more vague than the others, but the diary apparently has links to Obsidian, aka the crow men, since they are hanging around the secret tunnel as mobs. It's all connected!

[Ultra Mantis]

Olberic Ch4. Wow this one is so good. (also contains spoils on previous Ch4s)

Riverford is bleak as hell, I love it. Everything in this chapter is wonderful. Olberic is a badass. Erhardt with his flowing blonde hair and Yorkshire accent is a badass. Where the hell did Werner get that horse? Then it all leads back to that gate, which is in former Hornburg, which is somewhere? We will find that gate and seal it shut. Promise.

[Ultra Mantis]

Most intrigued about Alfyn's Ch4 of the ones I have left, because I have no fucking clue where that plotline is going. Prim and H'aanit should be great too, Prim's story is badass while H'annit's is really quirky and a little more of a loose thread. Still can't get over H'aanit's Ch2. That path action. Olberic / Cyrus come through with some great path action usage, but that one just stuck with me haha.








Therion is also there.

[Ruien]

Olberric is by far my favorite story. Chapter 4 story was beyond amazing.


Beat the end game boss at 80:02. Those 2 minutes were me putting the switch onto the tv since the battery was going low too. Feel empty inside now that it is over.....

[Ruien]

Major

Took 2 tried to get the last boss down. I realized I needed better gear and such before taking on the last boss since I got rolled hard the first time. I got kind of lucky too that I used tressa/runelord with haanit/scholar and cyrus. Made their attacked like 15k damage per hit. Didnt seem like my physical damage from Olberic did much.

Second group was prim/sorc and Therion/warmaster which was both super lucky. Ophilia and Alf were able to keep them up and restore BP on the second part.

Awesome last boss. Totally epic feel.

I really hated that the group never spoke together with all 8 at the end. They were all shown together and could have done the basic "we will stop you" and "not today evil lady (this is from tressa obviously).

Super awesome fucking game.

[Sepholio]

I just finished my last chapter 2. Keep getting sidetracked in the game and doing optional content. My characters are like mid-40's doing these chapter 2 stories haha.

[Sepholio]

Forget which of you didn't realize there was a run button until late, but I had an even dumber snafu than that....

I didn't realize you could use multiple boost levels on a single turn until I was like 35-40 with everyone lol. Imagine my surprise when I accidentally enabled a multiboost for the first time.

[Destor]

Bosses must have been a real chore lol

[Destor]

1 ch3 left. I wont do any ch4s until ive have all the sub jobs tho

[Sepholio]

Bosses must have been a real chore lol

Yeah there were for sure a couple that were annoying af lol

[Destor]

honest question: how much more are you enjoying combat now?

[Sepholio]

An absolute ton more. It's not like it made it that much easier as I'm getting into the parts where it seems as though the difficulty is ramping up a good bit. But discovering it definitely added another layer of strategy in when to use the boost and when to stockpile it.

[Ultra Mantis]

Just unlocked Runelord, that was a tight fight. Merchant H'aanit was clutch for Leghold Trap / Arrowstorm and Hired Help to keep defences up. Getting a lot of mileage from this new combo.

Also, want back and beat Devourer of Men. Still the hardest boss I've seen so far.

[Destor]

Just got my first of the 4 hidden jobs. Starseer. Fight took 3 tries each losing effort taking about 30 min. 2nd loss she was less than 5k Winning effort i really managedwell hp, bp, sp and breaks were all hyper efficient. Nearly kept her on stun lock the whole time.

Ive been de-jobbing and unequipping everyone not in my party so im free to rebuild my team on the fly. Makes a big diff.

[Destor]

This boss, like the devourer, forced me to use items. Something rpgs rarely do.

Devourer was wayyyyyy harder though.

[Destor]

The optional bosses are some of the best bosses ive ever played in a jrpg though. Really demand thought and strategy

[Ruien]

What level are you guys? Cant wait for you guys to go to the first of purgatory.

[Destor]

67 is my main. Rest of the party is mid 50s

[Ultra Mantis]

Ophilia 65
Alfyn 58
Primrose 56
H'aanit, Olberic 55
Tressa 48
Cyrus, Therion 45

[road doggy dogg]

Olberic is such a beast. I've subbed him as a Thief and stacked evasion gear. Even at level 42 or so I can pretty handily win any 10-star duel (albeit with my current damage level it takes a decent amount of time). His story so far has been my favourite as well (just finished chapter 3)

[Destor]

for challenges I like cleric with SP regen. You can just infinitely heal anything they dish is you have the patience.

Speaking of patience: best passive in the game.

[Destor]

...so far

[road doggy dogg]

Patience is amazing. I do like the SP Steal skill from the Thief class, saves having to use a passive slot for SP regen. Plus a lot of duel targets tend to be dagger weak so you get 2x break while regening SP or HP which is a nice bonus

[Ruien]

Do the forest of purgatory with those levels! Go go. Before you outlevel the hardest boss in the game.

[Destor]

Do the forest of purgatory with those levels! Go go. Before you outlevel the hardest boss in the game.

level 58 forrest outside of Ophilias ch4?

[Destor]

if so I was about to go in there tonight

[Destor]

Patience is amazing. I do like the SP Steal skill from the Thief class, saves having to use a passive slot for SP regen. Plus a lot of duel targets tend to be dagger weak so you get 2x break while regening SP or HP which is a nice bonus

SP share + SP steal is a strat i use when I need accessories and passives for specific fights. I'll dump the SP regen skills/items and have the thief cover SP for the party.

[Ruien]

Yes that one.

[Destor]

I miiiiight get the other 3 jobs first but i'll atleast let the boss beat me once for your sake. :)

[Destor]

lvl 58 content is higher than the shrines so its def intended for me to have those jobs first...

[Ultra Mantis]

Not sure if I should go after Starseer or Warmaster next, I have fought both once and got wrecked. Would imagine Sorcerer is a huge bitch. Leaning towards the Seer, and then I will go check out your forest.

[Destor]

Starseer isnt super great but it has a passive thats top shelf and I would reccomend getting it first strictly for it:

JP gain up

[Ultra Mantis]

Beat Starseer on my second attempt, swapped out Prim for Dancer Cyrus so I could run Scholar H'aanit. Much easier with two Scholars.

3/4 of her passives look pretty good actually, depending on what the boosted damage increase actually adds. 25% immunity seems way high.

[Ultra Mantis]

Forest of Purgation near Wispermill, is this where I'm supposed to go for this boss?

[Ultra Mantis]

The optional bosses are some of the best bosses ive ever played in a jrpg though. Really demand thought and strategy

Yeah, they are polar opposites of the FF7 super bosses. You pretty much have to lose so you can figure out how to win, I'm a fan.

[Ruien]

Forest of Purgation near Wispermill, is this where I'm supposed to go for this boss?

Yup. It is side quest tied type of dungeon but I assume you pick up all the quests.

[Ultra Mantis]

I just went to the end and there's no boss there haha, guess I haven't got that quest. I took the farmer's quest about his sheep, then a Merchant on the road gave me some info, maybe I need to do something with that first.

[Ruien]

Naw you have what you need. Super small spoiler about that


Boss isn't at the end. Go north when you first walk into the forest

[Ultra Mantis]

Ah yeah thought i'd open up the regular chests while I was in there and just stumbled across it, scurrying back to the save point right now haha.

[Ruien]

Ima be so pissed if you 1 shot him.

[Ultra Mantis]

Oh she (?) got me haha

Well, technically her puppies did. That combination of only weapon weaknesses with no multi-hit skill, high HP and high atk is just lethal. Once she gave birth to two at once I was fucked. Didn't even get her down to yellow.

[Ruien]

Exactly how my first encounter went.

[Ultra Mantis]

I cant even figure out a good strategy on that right now.

Scholar is a waste most turns but you still need it for when breaks are available, but you need a Scholar who can use weapons. Thief Cyrus or more likely Scholar Therion (so I can run Thief Ophilia too for debuffs) seems like the best option for multi-hit daggers on the pups, but they are my worst party members by far atm. Hunter of some kind seems like a requirement for leghold trap, maybe Olberic. Alfyn there for breaks / damage. Gotta get Therion up to speed before I can test this.

[Sepholio]

Not sure if I should go after Starseer or Warmaster next, I have fought both once and got wrecked. Would imagine Sorcerer is a huge bitch. Leaning towards the Seer, and then I will go check out your forest.

Sorcerer is the only one I have. Haven't even done my first chapter 3 yet LOL. Got it with a party of 52 Haanit/Warrior, 50 Therion/Merchant, 49 Alfyn/Scholar and 47 Primrose/Cleric. Click the spoiler if you want a strategy for how to handle the fight.

Make absolutely sure you go into the battle with saving grace on everyone. This is key. Also make sure to use your boost to break this bastard before his first turn or else he will put a lock on your ability to buff yourself for 5 turns. This should be easy enough by using a single boost physical from one person and a double cast spell from Alfyn as his initial breakpoint is only 4.

You want to use Haanit to keep leghold trap applied. That's her purpose entirely. If you apply it with boost you'll get a bunch of turns on the sorcerer with it, which frees you to stockpile boost and possible get off the warrior divine a time or 2 before needing to reapply leghold. Feel free to also use her to occasionally pop an item if you need to.

Therion is there to assist with breaking via boost and to use SP/BP items on the others as needed. You can also use hired help if you have the spare money and want to.

Alfyn is going to be used for 2 purposes. His first is the most important. You want to get his BP up as soon as possible and use the Apothecary divine on him, then the next turn use concoct to mix a purifying seed and essence of grape. This is going to give everyone 9,999 health and buy you the time you need to set up the rest of the strategy since this guy will get 2 triple cast spells in per turn. After you do this, alfyn is there to break the sorcerer and cast max boost double spells when he is broken. Obviously you can reapply the health buff with him if you get back below max health, but if you play this right, you'll never need to.

Primrose is the most important person here with the dancer/cleric set up. If you get the sorcerer broken before his first turn, you're golden. Otherwise you will have to use her to heal and stall until his buff lock on your characters wears out. What you want to do is feed her a big pomegranate and use the dancer divine on her. Then the next turn you want to boost reflective veil. This is going to give everyone reflect. Keep stacking this up to higher counts (9 is the max). Keep casting it while you rebuild bp for the dancer divine again. When it is down to 2-3 stacks and you have the required bp, recast dancer divine and start restacking veil. As long as you keep doing this cycle you will never get hit by the sorcerer. Each spell it casts on you will reflect onto it 12 times, so when it uses a spell it's weak to at the time, it will also be breaking itself. After a few minutes, the sorcerer will commit glorious suicide.

I've also just given the warmaster a first run. I get the feeling that you NEED sorcerer for this battle. Got it to red before it changed the whole game up and viciously booty raped me. And it went in dry.

[Ultra Mantis]

All the Shrine bosses seem to be like that, lull you into a false sense of security then as soon as they get in the red it's all out FUCK YOU TRY AGAIN.

[Sepholio]

Have you done the warmaster yet? If not just wait until the fuck you moment occurs lol. You'll know as soon as it happens, rest assured. I'm not even sure how to approach it atm. Trying to come up with a different strategy than what I had on the initial run.

[Ultra Mantis]

I fought him a few days ago, I don't remember exactly what happened. Went in with a party including Tressa and Therion, which isn't my usual tactic but I held my own easy enough. I know I had him in the red, broke him, buff/debuff, hit Brand's Thunder for maybe 12k damage.

He didn't go down, but immediately afterwards, I did.

[Sepholio]

WOOT I just took the down the warmaster. Same strategy I used the first time with one tweak. I forget the usefulness of the clerics divine sometimes lol.

[Destor]

Went to do the lvl 58. Wondered around it for 45 min. Gotnalk the chests...got frustrated and looked it up.

Side quests for this area dont open until youve done Ophilias ch4. I wont be doing that until after i get the next 3 jobs...tbc

[Sepholio]

I'm going to clean up a few sidequests and get my last 2 jobs then I'm going to push through chapters 3 and 4. I feel having these jobs will be a big help in chapter 4 and I want a little bit of time to get used to them and figure out their place in my general strategy.

[Sepholio]

Think I'm about to go after the runelord right now, actually.

[Sepholio]

Runeblade, actually.

[Sepholio]

3 down, starseer to go. Sorcerer is rape mode when you use the cleric divine on them.

[Destor]

Got distracted with optional caves and looting towns. Game is a blast. Hopefully ill get no.2 tomorrow

[Sepholio]

Looting towns is just the bees knees. Grandport is a treasure trove of goodies lol.

[Destor]

Sounds like i know where my next stop is

Also finished my first tier 3 side quest. Reward was a solid piece of armor and a large hp nut...worth it.

[Sepholio]

Sounds like i know where my next stop is

Also finished my first tier 3 side quest. Reward was a solid piece of armor and a large hp nut...worth it.

Spoiler to help you out on your next destination:

In the first area of Grandport there is a guy guarding a house. Challenge/Provoke him and get his ass out of the way, then go inside to find another NPC. Have Alfyn or Cyrus scrutinize the person, though they need to be level 50 or higher. The NPC will give you thieving tips and tricks and make your loot run MUCH easier. There are soooo many NPCs with soooo many good items to be had there.

Finally got all of the jobs out of the way. Haven't done much with the Runelord yet but I can see a couple things you could do with it that would make it incredible already. Sorcerer and Warmaster are both invaluable. With those 2 in a party you are guaranteed to be able to hit any weak point an enemy has. Haven't tried the Starseer yet because it seems like you almost have to use it on Ophilia or have someone else in the party equipped with cleric to have access to more reliable healing.

[Destor]

Starseer has a triple hit skill that does light dark and wind damage. Thats really useful imo

[Ultra Mantis]

Beat Warmaster fairly easily thanks to Leghold Trap and then Sorcerer with the greatest of ease. Sorcerer didn't even trigger his FUCK YOU mode so I must be a little bit overlevelled for him.

Not sure what the best set up for most of the extra jobs would be, Runelord would make best use of Sidestep or Reflective Veil but I put it on Olberic because how could I resist Mystic Knight? Sorcerer will likely be Prim, maybe H'aanit Warmaster. Field tests required.

Going to jump back into Ch4s tomorrow. Maybe go after the Leviathan boss because I can probably squash it at this point but I'm interested to see the Octopath take on him. Hope he's an eldritch horror tbh.

[Sepholio]

H'aanit is currently my warmaster and it's working well so far.

Tressa is definitely the best possible use of runelord. Transfer rune into sidestep is ridiculously OP. My Tressa is a bit under leveled though so I currently have Runelord on Therion to assist with breaking enemies quicker.

I have Sorcerer on Alfyn. I dunno why but Alfyn is just my dude for the mage classes. His ability to carry axes makes him great for it as there are a couple axes that have really high elemental atk, and it still allows him to have access to halfway decent physical attacks if necessary. Also the apothecary ultimate allows me to overheal everyone easily, so he is kind of indispensable. Easily the most important member of my main party.

[Sepholio]

I fucking love this game btw.

[Ultra Mantis]

Alfyn (& OCTOP) Ch4


Aflyn's Ch4 is the most low stakes so far, his 2 and 3 were amazing but he never really had a strong arc and it shows here. I did laugh at the absolute convenience of being in the exact town he needed to be in to get the incredibly rare ingredient. The big reveal at the end saved it from being an absolute mess, though if I hadn't played Tressa first the reveal would have meant absolutely nothing. Pretty cool way to tie him in and Alfyn is perhaps my favourite character, shame he has such a weak finale.

[Sepholio]

I've done all the side stuff other than the 2 level 55 dungeons and the level 58. Finally starting on Chapter 3's now. My B-team is roughly the appropriate level for these chapters, but my A-team is sitting in the mid 60s at this point so everything is a cake walk. Which is fine. I can breeze through for the stories and to start opening up post chapter 4 quests and the end game which is what I'm really keen on atm.

[Ultra Mantis]

After beating all Ch4s, following up on my TRAVELER observation


Therese
Revello
Ali
Vanessa
Eliza
Lianna
Erhardt
Ravus


Ravus is a bit of a stretch but technically Lady Ravus is important, even though she goes by Cordelia. The main debunker here though is Vanessa, who is of absolutely no importance whatsoever and would actually be Ogen. Octopath Traoeler?

[Ultra Mantis]

My Ch4's ranked btw


Olberic
Ophilia
H'aanit
Cyrus
Primrose
Tressa
Therion
Alfyn

[Ultra Mantis]

Beat the Forest of Purgation boss


Thief Ophilia Lv 71
Warrior Alfyn Lv 67
Merchant H'aanit Lv 64
Scholar Therion Lv 55

Was a REALLY long fight but there was only really one spot near the end where I was in any danger, kept him / her debuffed with Leghold Trap, Shackle Foe and less importantly Armour Corrosive and most of my damage came from Brand's Thunder. Everyone had Saving Grace, Therion and H'annit had Patience equipped which was a real clutch ability. Using the Hired Help mercenary for a defence buff either mitigates damage or wasted one of it's turns because it will do an AOE low damage dispel instead of the high damage attack debuff. The only real danger comes from the little wolves, Theif needs to break them ASAP, staggered ideally so you only have to deal with one per turn and then when you have the boost Brand's Thunder the fuckers. When three came up I debuffed two and just threw everything I had at one of them to get it out of there before they could pile on me. Really tough fight, not much room for any mistakes. Pretty cool. Had more trouble with Devourer though I think.

[Ultra Mantis]

Going to start using the bonus jobs for real now I think while I figure out this post game.

[Sepholio]

I was thinking it was going to be hard until you said you had more trouble with the devourer. I raped that one on the first try.

You should really be using those bonus jobs lol.

[Destor]

Alfyn, Olberic and H'aanit are my last 3 ch4s

Right ay 90hrs

Im way over leveled for their to be any challenge in anything. Did 0 grinding in the game just did all the optional content.

[Ultra Mantis]

Warmaster Ult is so fucking OP it's almost unfair haha. It's like a mini KOTR.

[Ultra Mantis]

Going to all these optional caves and stomping the bosses, even with base jobs, feels like I've missed out on some cool battles though. Spend a good 15 mins capturing the boss in the last Riverlands dungeon, pretty satisfying. Really enjoy the designs on all these bosses. The Octopath takes on Behemoth and Leviathan are awesome.

Maw of the Ice Dragon is the only place I haven't been.

Major
So I guess it's that and then time to enter the Gate

[Ruien]

Went to go trade the game in at Gamestop. Some kid and his mom were picking out games for the Switch. Seemed like they were about to buy the system. The mom pointed out Octopath and I decided to give them my copy for free.

[Sepholio]

Alfyn, Olberic and H'aanit are my last 3 ch4s

Right ay 90hrs

Im way over leveled for their to be any challenge in anything. Did 0 grinding in the game just did all the optional content.

I just did my first chapter 4, Cyrus. My A-Team is extremely overleveled. B-team underleveled af. Gonna have to do some grinding with my B-team characters to get them respectable.

[Destor]

Major

was doing the final boss. Easy enough time. running 3/4 b team. Get him down to 30k and i nearly get full wiped. Well i say no worries ive got 3/4 a team and he's basically dead. So i tank the damage instead of healing.

Game over.

WHAT. This means that team 1 must beat this guy and then team 2 must face another seperate boss.

Oh and i get to redo the 8 boss prior since there isnt a save... fuck

He beat me strictly because i let him thinking i had 4 travelers waiting.

[Destor]

Got my b team to 70. Got them all the good passives as well. Gonna try this again tomorrow

[Sepholio]

Where did you get them up? I'm thinking that level 58 dungeon is probably the best bet. Obviously use the exp boost passive from warmaster.

[Destor]

Lvl58 dungeon

Xp boost passive + xp boost item
Jp boost passive + jp boost item

[Destor]

Dancer beffudling dance x8

[Destor]

recommend a merchant to speed things up and a thief to keep the sp flowing. You should be able to get the 100x xp and/or jp on top of double xp/jp from passives and gear pretty quickly if you have dancer/cleric with a either x2 merchants or merchant/starseer. Just make sure your merchant ISNT the cleric or the dancer for obvious reasons.

[Destor]

Went to go trade the game in at Gamestop. Some kid and his mom were picking out games for the Switch. Seemed like they were about to buy the system. The mom pointed out Octopath and I decided to give them my copy for free.

Thats very Tressa of you

[Destor]

:heart:

[Swiss Ultimate]

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[Destor]

I know some people who bought those

[Destor]

$115 :lol:

[Ultra Mantis]

Just for some stickers?

[Ultra Mantis]

I need to grind my b-team up so much, might take a while. Is there anywhere Caits spawn more frequently? Seemed like I was getting a bunch in the Forest of No Return / Maw of the Ice Dragon so might give that a go instead of Purgation.

[Destor]

You're the second person to tellnme maw of the ice dragon had a good cait spawn rate...

[Destor]

Personally i think its anecdotal and its an rng shit show

[Sepholio]

It is RNG af. The only thing I think may be intentional about them is that (for me at least) they tend to show up far more frequently in early game areas than in the late game. It would make sense considering when you happen upon them early on they can be rather frustrating to take down before they flee, especially when their high speed gives them the first turn and pretty much guarantees your shit out of luck. Later on you can one shot them with ease. Dunno tho, prob still all RNG.

You can also use the method Destor described up there with the bewildering dance. One of the random side effects given off by the skill is that it will transform enemies in the battle into caits. I'm personally going for the x100 xp/jp boosts that dance can give you though. Potential for over 100k exp per battle is very appealing. I'm hoping for the extra luck of pulling that effect and then the enemies transforming into fat caits before I kill them. Insta-bajillion levels lol.

[Ultra Mantis]

Was getting multiple Caits most battles for the short time I was in there, Chubby Cait, 2x Cultured Cait and a wolf. Fat ones always ran away, need pre-emptive to kill them I guess.

if I go back and get none then yeah definitely.

[Ultra Mantis]

Wandered around the maw for around 30 mins, found the Cait party twice though instead of a wolf I got a Snow Drake and then a Snow Leopard. The Leopard has a self heal so once I wiped out all three Caits with Sorcerer Prim's first move I got a good 10 mins on the Leopard just Bewildering Gracing constantly before RNG did four damage moves in a row and killed it. In that time I stacked a bunch of x2 multipliers and came out with 20k EXP, 5k JP. Not bad,

Also the dungeon boss keeps appearing as a random encounter and he gives nice EXP too. Pretty good levelling spot. Runelord Tressa is all you need for sustain. Another merchant for extra donate BP speeds things up on the Bewildering Grace front, but I've only been using that on Cait battles tbf.

[Ultra Mantis]

Fought 3 more Cait parties since last post. Pretty good.

[Destor]

Trying the final boss again

[Destor]

If i strike out ill come back at 99

[Destor]

Clue me in when yall do yhe end game i wanna talk lore

[Destor]

Also ive got H'aanit doing 160k in a round now lol

[Ruien]

You shouldn't lose again.

[Destor]

I only lost because i didnt know how the fight worked. I let him beat me because i thought it was one thing but it was another.

Ive done my party differently though and i may lose just due to taking a gamble.

[Sepholio]

Clue me in when yall do yhe end game i wanna talk lore

Couple more days for me probably. Got like 3 more chapter 4s, the end game sidequests and the ending. I am totes down for this discussion too as I've started seeing the connecting threads between the different stories...and I rather like it. I already wish they went in harder on this overall story because it seems really good from what I've seen so far.

[Destor]

I will reserve my comments

[Destor]

I only lost because i didnt know how the fight worked. I let him beat me because i thought it was one thing but it was another.

Ive done my party differently though and i may lose just due to taking a gamble.

Been doing the first phase for 90 min. I knew i was going into turtle strats but this is a bit much lol

[Destor]

I lost. Had no response for desperation attacks. I think i have a good idea how to handle it but will require reworking my entire party.

Will grind to 99 first.

[Destor]

Not to be reactionary but this may be the most difficult fight in any jrpg ive ever played. Its not unfair though. I think it just takes a very precise team.

[Sepholio]

ooooh me likey the sound of that.

[Destor]

Feel real confident about the 3rd attempt will do it tho

[Ultra Mantis]

Grinded up to Lv70-75 for everyone and kitted them out. If I have to run two teams my balanced set up would be:

Tressa Runelord
H'aanit Warmaster
Ophilia Starseer
Cyrus Thief

Primrose Sorcerer
Alfyn Warrior
Olberic Cleric
Therion Hunter

Going to see how easily this big boss can wreck me tomorrow.

[Sepholio]

I have chapter 4 for H'aanit left and then a few quests and I'll be ready to give it a go.

[Destor]

Grinding in ice maw for about 2 hours. 0 caits.

[Destor]

I think all 4 of us have the hidden sub jobs so I'll skip the spoiler warnings and just say I encluded them.

Going to rank the classes:

12. Warrior - I think putting this at the bottom will catch heat but I stand by it. The extra 50 attack passive and the 99,999 passive are the only reasons to use this class unless you have a spear based enemy. Its just not that great. Apoc has better single target AoE and single target damage excluding the divine skill which is very good for damage until you get the optional classes but i think this job just doesnt add any utility for a small damage increase. Olberic is great but only when you marry this kit with other (better) kits.

11. Dancer - This class is good for farming. That is about it. Sp recovery passive is nice and dark damage is good for about 60 hours or so but by in large this class is best only put on primrose unless you have need of her divine skill. Ophilia as dancer can have some very useful applications against elemental bosses using Dancer divine plus reflect. Far too niche though.

10. Theif- A lot of things hold this class back. Single target skills galore is a big one. All of the passive suck. Bottom of the bin in that regard. It it werent for its ability to funnel SP into the DPS classes it would be the last on the list but until you get Runelord this is a pretty vital class.

9. Hunter - The class is good for multi bows and a nice AoE damage from Rain of Arrows but it deserves the spot due to Patience. A must have skill on every party member but especially true for your healers. All of its passive are very solid but it does get out classed by other classes.

8. Scholar - Until late game this class is a must and while it is def left in the dust once you get get sorcerer the fact that its a staple for 60 hours or so of the game gets it a nod but late game though this kit is useless unless you're conserving SP. Since there is basically a better version of this class I cant put it any higher than this.

7. Runelord - this set is only this high for one reason: it pairs with merchant in godly ways. the passives are mostly useless and the elemental buff aspects arent that great either. but buffs becoming AoEs is a spammable Dancer divine skill and that is broken in Tressa's hands. Donate BP, Rest and Sidestep are VERY powerful at this point. It also makes Apoc a viable healer but you will have to waste a round on occasion to make it happen.

6. Starseerer - this kit sucks. Some ok moves and some I would never use. Pairs great with dancer's divine skill though. It has it's spot for the passives. BP eater is a must for all DPS and the double BP at the start of the battle paired with it makes farming and grinding a one turn ordeal. And having the ability to test for the 3 rare elemental types in one move is handy too.

5. Apothecary - As a healer this class is basically trash. Though paired with runelord does make it better and the debuff clear is unique and really good as an AoE. it has great damage skills from the axe skills but none of those are why its in the top 5. The divine skill is the single best divine skill from the basic classes (and if it werent for Warmaster it would be the absolute best period.) Items as AoE is HUGE. Especially for the tough bosses.

4. Merchant - Donate BP. Donate BP. DONATE BP. If this werent enough to crack the top 5 (it is) she also has the very high utility of hired help plus some very good passive. SP saver and ...endure? The survive KO passive. Top class set. Plus MONIES.

3. Sorcerer - If you need nukes we got nukes. Pretty broken class. Triple hit all elementals is killer and lowering elemental def makes it even better. Passive leave a lot to be desired but the kit makes up for it in big ways.

2. Warmaster - lolthisissoopwtfweretheythinkingifuckingloveitomg for real...what a fucking DPS class. Great options for multi hit breaking massive damage even without the divine skill and quality passives even if theyre a bit situational. You can deal 60k or so pretty easy per divine skill. It has no equal in DPS.

1. Cleric - No job can half do what this class does. AoE heals. AoE raise. Reflect. These are major skills that every party needs. This job is a must at all times at any part of the game. Saving Grace is probably the best passive in the game as well. Great divine skill too. This is THE must have class no matter what party you build.

[Sepholio]

Fighting the dire wolf now. My normal strategy is not very good in this battle. Keep getting wrecked :/

[Destor]

I cant offer my strat if you want it

[Destor]

Warmaster.

Merchant

Thief

Dancer

Have these 4 classes. Warmaster needs the warrior passive the breaks damage cap and needs bp eater from starseer.

Armor corrosive on dire wolf. Lion dance on war master. Feed bp to warmaster and cast the divine skill.

Should be able to kill it in round 1 or 2.

[Destor]

If youre doing a low level attempt bring saving grace on all cause itll take longer

[Destor]

You can skip dancer and equip the warmaster passive that gives perma ATT+ but i prefer other passives and would bring sorcerer primrose

[Sepholio]

Yeah that will def work. I was just trying to do it with the same set up I use for everything else, but sorcerer becomes fairly useless as soon as he summons more than one add and locks out his elemental weaknesses, especially since the adds are only broken by physical attacks.

[Sepholio]

Also I was running the battle with equipment that isn't optimal for a fully physical battle.

[Destor]

I think all 4 of us have the hidden sub jobs so I'll skip the spoiler warnings and just say I encluded them.

Going to rank the classes:

12. Warrior - I think putting this at the bottom will catch heat but I stand by it. The extra 50 attack passive and the 99,999 passive are the only reasons to use this class unless you have a spear based enemy. Its just not that great. Apoc has better single target AoE and single target damage excluding the divine skill which is very good for damage until you get the optional classes but i think this job just doesnt add any utility for a small damage increase. Olberic is great but only when you marry this kit with other (better) kits.

11. Dancer - This class is good for farming. That is about it. Sp recovery passive is nice and dark damage is good for about 60 hours or so but by in large this class is best only put on primrose unless you have need of her divine skill. Ophilia as dancer can have some very useful applications against elemental bosses using Dancer divine plus reflect. Far too niche though.

10. Theif- A lot of things hold this class back. Single target skills galore is a big one. All of the passive suck. Bottom of the bin in that regard. It it werent for its ability to funnel SP into the DPS classes it would be the last on the list but until you get Runelord this is a pretty vital class.

9. Hunter - The class is good for multi bows and a nice AoE damage from Rain of Arrows but it deserves the spot due to Patience. A must have skill on every party member but especially true for your healers. All of its passive are very solid but it does get out classed by other classes.

8. Scholar - Until late game this class is a must and while it is def left in the dust once you get get sorcerer the fact that its a staple for 60 hours or so of the game gets it a nod but late game though this kit is useless unless you're conserving SP. Since there is basically a better version of this class I cant put it any higher than this.

7. Runelord - this set is only this high for one reason: it pairs with merchant in godly ways. the passives are mostly useless and the elemental buff aspects arent that great either. but buffs becoming AoEs is a spammable Dancer divine skill and that is broken in Tressa's hands. Donate BP, Rest and Sidestep are VERY powerful at this point. It also makes Apoc a viable healer but you will have to waste a round on occasion to make it happen.

6. Starseerer - this kit sucks. Some ok moves and some I would never use. Pairs great with dancer's divine skill though. It has it's spot for the passives. BP eater is a must for all DPS and the double BP at the start of the battle paired with it makes farming and grinding a one turn ordeal. And having the ability to test for the 3 rare elemental types in one move is handy too.

5. Apothecary - As a healer this class is basically trash. Though paired with runelord does make it better and the debuff clear is unique and really good as an AoE. it has great damage skills from the axe skills but none of those are why its in the top 5. The divine skill is the single best divine skill from the basic classes (and if it werent for Warmaster it would be the absolute best period.) Items as AoE is HUGE. Especially for the tough bosses.

4. Merchant - Donate BP. Donate BP. DONATE BP. If this werent enough to crack the top 5 (it is) she also has the very high utility of hired help plus some very good passive. SP saver and ...endure? The survive KO passive. Top class set. Plus MONIES.

3. Sorcerer - If you need nukes we got nukes. Pretty broken class. Triple hit all elementals is killer and lowering elemental def makes it even better. Passive leave a lot to be desired but the kit makes up for it in big ways.

2. Warmaster - lolthisissoopwtfweretheythinkingifuckingloveitomg for real...what a fucking DPS class. Great options for multi hit breaking massive damage even without the divine skill and quality passives even if theyre a bit situational. You can deal 60k or so pretty easy per divine skill. It has no equal in DPS.

1. Cleric - No job can half do what this class does. AoE heals. AoE raise. Reflect. These are major skills that every party needs. This job is a must at all times at any part of the game. Saving Grace is probably the best passive in the game as well. Great divine skill too. This is THE must have class no matter what party you build.
I dont want this lost on the last page before mantis and i get to argue about the merits of theif :lol:

[Destor]

Yeah that will def work. I was just trying to do it with the same set up I use for everything else, but sorcerer becomes fairly useless as soon as he summons more than one add and locks out his elemental weaknesses, especially since the adds are only broken by physical attacks.

Best thing about the adds is their hp isnt too beefy if youre 50ish so youll run through them like butter

[Sepholio]

Oh believe me I have some gripes with your list as well lol.

Your criminal underrating of Dancer, for one.

[Destor]

Love to hear it :shrug:

[Destor]

Single target buffs dont impress me much especially when passives and gear to those jobs with out wasting turns

[Destor]

It has a good divine skill though.

[Ultra Mantis]

I dont want this lost on the last page before mantis and i get to argue about the merits of theif :lol:

Haha I ran Ophilia Theif for about 50% of the game and it really works well with her kit, throwing out defence debuffs or 2 x dagger skills for breaks, but I also NEVER used it for SP battery. Passives are all absolute trash yeah and Starseer outclasses it completely, but Phili was locked in my party and doing thief things for a good chunk of time.

Thief is alright as a secondary job, Therion is still absolute garbage though.

That said, Warrior Alfyn was my champion. Dude wrecked so much, Abide into Amputation (even better with Cleric ult applied) or Brand's Thunder. Sublime. My credits roll was mostly just Amputation after Amputation.

[Destor]

Mine too but with H'aanit as apoc. She used that until i got Warmaster

[Ultra Mantis]

If this game was nothing but chopping dudes for 20k damage I'd still love it.

[Destor]

Late game it kinda is :lol:

[Sepholio]

lol my late game is entirely different than yalls. Mine is all about Cleric divine\dancer peacock strut on sorcerer Alfyn, Alfyn boosts, waxes everyone with spells.

[Destor]

Too many turns for my taste BUT that would def kill...EVERYTHING

[Sepholio]

Not everything lol

That strategy is SHIT on the dire wolf as I mentioned earlier.

[Destor]

Well mostly everything.

You can take it further since a lot of the stat boosts stack

Elemental Edge: 50% Boost, but can not stack with Dancer Buffs (its the same buff but a dif source of said buff)

BP Eater: 50% to boosted attacks

Elemental Aid: 50% Boost, but double SP costs

Augmented Elements: 20% Boost to Elemental Attacks

Stronger Strikes: 20% Boost when you hit weak points

[Destor]

Raw numbers might not need weaknesses

[Ultra Mantis]

I'm curious, how did you end up with Alfyn as your mage, Seph? His base Elem Atk doesn't seem great (my Alfyn is only higher than Olberic for that stat, stripped of all gear) and he naturally favours physical.

[Destor]

Its all about gear. Ive never given him any nuts and i have him geared up with a 900 elm attack. +100 bracelt (2 if you want to push him to 999) and bishops staff should max him out(ish) at level 70 or so

[Ultra Mantis]

Hunter and Thief are really valuable assets for the Direwolf fight imo. Leghold Trap keeps it in a holding pattern so you can always recover from his turn, Shackle Foe stops it from hitting too hard.

[Ultra Mantis]

Ah, I guess you could make anyone the primary mage if you really wanted to then. Prim is at 999 for me purely through her weapon loadout and it seems like a waste of those sweet Amps to give it to Alfyn instead.

[Sepholio]

I did exactly what you suggested for the dire wolf battle destor. I dunno how you are killing it in 2 rounds like that. I was on like round 10ish and had cast the warmaster divine many many times. Almost killed it before it wiped me but it was in no way as easy as you made it sound and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

[Sepholio]

guess maybe I should use some of the stat boosting nuts, seeing as I have yet to use a single one yet lol

[Destor]

Whats your level

[Destor]

My att stat was over 900 when i did it for all 6 items save the staff which was mid 800s

[Destor]

Each ofnthe 6 strikes was doing like 25k or so (ive done30k per strike elsewhere)

[Sepholio]

Im using Haanit as my warmaster as shes my main, and my level is 75. I must need to spam those stat boosting nuts.

[Sepholio]

For reference, her attack stats are around 700 for polearm and axe, 600 on others lol. Suppose Ill rearrange my equipment and see where I can get them.

[Destor]

Thats the diff 100%

Whats your axe?

[Sepholio]

death cleaver right now. I just used the fortifying nuts I had on her, it got her stats comparable to where yours were. The only difference now is a couple weapons that are on other people, but I'm close to your stats regardless.

[Destor]

Im using memorial axe. +400 att

2x boost warmaster axe AoE does about 12k damage to the mobs in this area

[Destor]

Axe physical is 926

[Destor]

Just did the AoE at 2x. 1. 11k. 2.14k. 3. 18k

[Destor]

Turn one no set up

[Sepholio]

Still not doing the damage you are. Do you mean that's the damage you do when the enemy is broken? If so I'm closer there now, doing like 16-20k per strike.

[Sepholio]

I did manage to beat him on maybe turn 4 or 5 though.

[Destor]

No. That's one strike as soon as the battle starts.

[Destor]

You have bp eater on yeah?

[Destor]

My base physical attack is 526 before gear

[Sepholio]

bp eater, surpassing power, saving grace and patience, base power is 562 wtf is going on here.

[Destor]

I KNOW

[Destor]

I have battle tested blade

[Destor]

Thats an extra 20 or 30% as a passive multiplier

[Destor]

Erdhart is in wellspring. Steal/buy it from him

[Sepholio]

Oh yeah, that would do it. I haven't gone and got the ultra equipment yet lol. When I was asking about whether the damage you were doing was during breaks I meant as far as the 25k-30k per strike you were doing against the dire wolf btw, not the standard packs.

[Destor]

Forgot all about that

[Destor]

Oh yeah, that would do it. I haven't gone and got the ultra equipment yet lol. When I was asking about whether the damage you were doing was during breaks I meant as far as the 25k-30k per strike you were doing against the dire wolf btw, not the standard packs.

I think i killed him before i broke him. I think. The battle was very short.

[Sepholio]

but yea that extra 20-30% would be the difference I'm guessing because when I had the dire wolf broken I was hitting it for 16-20k per hit on the warmaster divine, which would translate closer to the 25k-30k you were doing. Just a touch lower because my weapons aren't entirely optimal obviously.

[Sepholio]

Well then there has to be something else. When he wasn't broken most of my hits were maybe 6-8k with the ones he was weak to being maybe 12k? something like that.

[Sepholio]

Is there a passive I'm missing maybe?

[Destor]

I was told he was super hard though so i was feeding haanit bp items on any free turn and what not. Think i got the extra turn both rounds giving her 4 goes at him.

i have all the best gear on her too so im def very optimized

[Sepholio]

Did you use physical prowess passive?

[Destor]

Is there a passive I'm missing maybe?

I think 2 of the devine skills would break him so possible those were broken numbers. Maybe have had the weakpoint passive on this one too for an extra 20%per weak point attack.

I remember gearing up for a real struggle and then just obliterating him. It was so quick i cant honestly say i remember the full set up. Unlike that eater of men that i did looowwwww level that will stick with me for life.

[Destor]

Passed the 100hr marker just now btw

[Sepholio]

Physical Prowess seems like it would make a big difference for me too now that I look at it. 50% damage boost to physical attacks.

[Destor]

Should let you do 100k per divine skill. Should be enough

[Destor]

Fuck it. Gonna try end game again im getting impatient

[Destor]

One good go before bed

[Sepholio]

GOOD RUCK