Avengers: End Game (2019) MAJOR SPOILERS INSIDE

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Part of the journey is the end. <a href="https://t.co/vejn1Bx8Nz">pic.twitter.com/vejn1Bx8Nz</a></p>&mdash; Marvel Studios (@MarvelStudios) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarvelStudios/status/1071027073416740864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[GD]

I am very excited for this one. Can’t believe it releases in April.

[Sixx]

As usual, I have a boner for this movie, but the trailer is kinda "meh".

[RP]

Trailer is great. They didnt show much at all. The did make sure we knew Hawkeye was back ( though honestly they didnt have to. ). I love the Ant-Man part at the end. Makes his out to be super important and he should be. I love Ant-Man.

[Seanny One Ball]

Looks fucking great. Time for the serious second half.

[Kalyx triaD]

Interesting trailer. It's mostly two scenes with quick sjots in between. Very minimal, very secretive. They didn't show anything.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Wasn't Ant-Man trapped in...whatever dimensions it is, at the end of his last film?

Shenanigans

[Lock Jaw]

Wasn't Ant-Man trapped in...whatever dimensions it is, at the end of his last film?

Shenanigans

He obviously gets out

[RP]

If I were guessing, I would guess the movie starts out with Ant-Man finding his way out of the quantam realm.

[slik]

Thanos living his best life on his farm w/ his Thanos scarecrow

[RP]

Thanos living his best life on his farm w/ his Thanos scarecrow

I loved it. I hope they do background on how he got the stones based on Thanos Quest comics, because the farm stuff is very relevant to the comics. I doubt they do it. Probably not enough time.

[RP]

I've watched this 5 times now and the Ant-Man stuff is getting me hard. I love the whole " No hope, whats done is done" narrative between Captain and Black Widow. And then Ant-Man knocks on the door. LOL I love it so much.

[RP]

I imagine Tony Stark figures a way to use his suit tech to power the ship he's on.

[RP]

I do not want another trailer.

[Kalyx triaD]

Stark is a long way from home. Thor may be able to get him using Stormbreaker but he doesn't have a way to find him. Best case; Carol finds him. Or very very nice Ravagers.

[RP]

It's amazing they didnt give anything up but Ronin ( Hawkey ). That's the only major thing they gave away. No Hulk. No Thor. No Thanos. No Iron Man in suit. No Captain America in full form. This trailer is brilliant.

NO MORE TRAILERS of this movie PLEASE!

[RP]

They did sneak a bit of Nebula.

[Seanny One Ball]

Scarjo looks appropriately plain in the trailer. Not her best anyway, so at least we know it got the mood right. Nobody would be turning up looking hot.

[Sixx]

So Hawkeye becomes Ronin in this one?

[Fignuts]

Looks like it. I’m guessing his family got deleted.

[Fignuts]

Why the fuck did they turn widow blond in the first place?

[Seanny One Ball]

You see him with a Samurai sword anyway

[Sixx]

Why the fuck did they turn widow blond in the first place?

Because Scarlett.

[Seanny One Ball]

Looks like it. I’m guessing his family got deleted.



They were annoying anyway. Taking up good space in films where there's precious little to spare.

[Lock Jaw]

Why the fuck did they turn widow blond in the first place?

"Disguising" herself because she was a fugitive after Civil War

[Seanny One Ball]

If this ends with real, irreversible death then I will be delighted that the series had the balls to retain it's integrity in the face of some obvious retcon temptation.
We'll probably get a bunch back but lose a couple of big names forever just to keep it respectable.

[ClockShot]

Looks like Ant-Man somehow escapes the Quantum Realm. That's a good teaser right there.

And Echo/Ronin Clint Barton, sweet. Do we see Maya Lopez at some point?

[Seanny One Ball]

"Disguising" herself because she was a fugitive after Civil War



Worse disguise than Superman

[Kalyx triaD]

Worse disguise than Superman

You'd be surprised.

[Sixx]

Looks like Ant-Man somehow escapes the Quantum Realm. That's a good teaser right there.

And Echo/Ronin Clint Barton, sweet. Do we see Maya Lopez at some point?

Barton was never Echo, whatcha talkin' about?

BITCH

[RP]

The most underrated part of the trailer is that Thor seems to be imprisoned somehow. He appears in what looks like a cell. It looks like the same prison Tony had built in Civil War.

[Seanny One Ball]

Yeah I thought the same thing.

Too tempting to analyse every bit of the preview.

[JimmyMess]

Stark is a long way from home. Thor may be able to get him using Stormbreaker but he doesn't have a way to find him. Best case; Carol finds him. Or very very nice Ravagers.

Could Valkyrie find him with the ship they stole from the Grandmaster?

Carol seems most likely though

[Shadow]

Great trailer to set the mood.

Second one will probably drop in Feb.

[A.J.K]

And to think this is 10 years in the making. This should be fantastic.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

God this seems dire as fuck. I miss full blown beard cap. But I'm excited to see where this is going to go.

[XL]

Does seem a little odd that bereft Steve Rodgers finds time to shave. Usually go the other way.

[Seanny One Ball]

Spoiler Alert: Cap Isn't Sad dun dun DUN

[Innovator]

Why wouldn't Tony hitch a ride with Gamora?

[Lock Jaw]

Off a cliff?

[Innovator]

Wrong sister, Nebula.

[Fignuts]

Maybe she's in there with him.

Either that or she just leaves him. She's still a cunt after all. She just cares about Gamora.

[XL]

Yeah, a lot of speculation is they’re on the same ship, at least for a while.

[Lock Jaw]

Seems like she was on that ship too.... saw her a bit in the trailer, looked like on a ship, and it was that same kind of green hue.....

[Lock Jaw]

Of course, I guess we really can't trust anything in trailers these days either.

[RP]

She's shown touching Gamora's clothes on the ship. It would make sense that they would be on the same ship that went to that planet.

[Fignuts]

Wonder if Tony taps that

[Fignuts]

Personally I'd be too afraid of her possibly having machinery in her vag that cuts your dick off.

[Kalyx triaD]

Worth the risk.

[Sixx]

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[Helmsphere]

Seems like she was on that ship too.... saw her a bit in the trailer, looked like on a ship, and it was that same kind of green hue.....

When I reviewed it, It does look like Tony is on the Milano, Nebula also looks like she is on it as well, based on designs.

[JimmyMess]

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[Seanny One Ball]

A nt Man is my favourite out of the Marvel Superheroes now. Paul Rudd did that with jokes and his cheeky face.

[XL]

https://youtu.be/TcMBFSGVi1c

New trailer. Can’t remember how to embed from phone :roll:

[Innovator]

Got you fam

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[JimmyMess]

God I don't know how to keep my emotions in check. The avengers music literally brings tears to my eyes.

[slik]

Mohawkeye for the win!

[Black Widow]

Hope that Thor kills the roided Grimace or Black Widow.

[GD]

Got you fam

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Can't wait!

[Lock Jaw]

I liked the inclusions of shots from Iron Man/Cap/Thor first movies/origins.

They should have added Bruce Banner wistfully thinking back on when he looked like Ed Norton

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Oh shit, son. It needs to be the end of April, already, you fuckers.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Inject this shit into my veins.

[GD]

I liked the inclusions of shots from Iron Man/Cap/Thor first movies/origins.

They should have added Bruce Banner wistfully thinking back on when he looked like Ed Norton

How about a slick transition from Terrance Howard to Don Cheadle :)

[JimmyMess]

I saw someone shit on this trailer on instagram, and all I can think of is "really?"

This shit is going to be fucking insane

[Fignuts]

I saw someone shit on this trailer on instagram, and all I can think of is "really?"

This shit is going to be fucking insane

I imagine there are some people that are upset that the trailer still doesn’t show anything. I’m glad they’re being secretive.

[JimmyMess]

I imagine there are some people that are upset that the trailer still doesn’t show anything. I’m glad they’re being secretive.

Yeah I actually saw a guy post that there was too much "flashbacks of old footage" dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

[RP]

I sucked my own boner after watching that trailer.

[XL]

This one showed “too much” if anything with Tony and Nebula back on Earth. I mean there was very little chance they wouldn’t both make it back but they hadn’t confirmed that in previous trailers, possibly to the point that they edited them out.

[Gray]

There seems to be a lot of emphasis on red during the flashbacks - Reminded me of the Girl in Red in Schindler's List. Everything else greyscale/black and white but red seems prominent throughout (Iron Man's wires in v1 suit, "Tony has a heart", Pepper and helmet, American Flag with some scenes, Asgardian flags, Thor's cloak, Falcon uniform, Okoye, Scarlett Witch and Cap's gloves. Could there be any link?

[JimmyMess]

There seems to be a lot of emphasis on red during the flashbacks - Reminded me of the Girl in Red in Schindler's List. Everything else greyscale/black and white but red seems prominent throughout (Iron Man's wires in v1 suit, "Tony has a heart", Pepper and helmet, American Flag with some scenes, Asgardian flags, Thor's cloak, Falcon uniform, Okoye, Scarlett Witch and Cap's gloves. Could there be any link?

reality stone is red, something there possibly?

[Reavant]

I think it has to do with the Marvel 10 year logo

[RP]

OK So this is official. I dont buy it. I dont believe Suri is dead. I have a serious issue with this poster because if Suri were to have gotten dusted, it took 5 seconds to show such a scene. So something doesnt add up here. She played a significant part in Infinity Wars. I think this is a deflection. I think Suri is still alive somehow.

https://www.goldderby.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Avengers-Endgame.jpg?w=620

[RP]

In order to think Suri is dead, you would have to believe that the MCU cared so little of her that they saved 10 seconds of a scene showing her get dusted. She was way too much apart of Black Panther and too much apart of Infinity War to just get cut on her dusting scene. It dont make sense. I dont believe she's dead. I think MCU are trying to throw us off with this poster.

[JimmyMess]

They show her as one of the missing in the first trailer too though.

[RP]

They show her as one of the missing in the first trailer too though.

They showed Scott Lang as missing also though right?

[Kalyx triaD]

Well he technically was.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

I think all will be un-dusted and probably Tony Stark the only dude permanently gone by movie's end. I have read no spoilers.

[Fignuts]

Cap too maybe. Pretty certain Chris Evans doesn’t want to do any more, and you’ve always got the possibility of Bucky Cap to continue the series.

[XL]

There’s a chance Suri has gone into hiding following the events of IW and that the core Avengers just don’t know, only for her to emerge, maybe with a new Vision.

If they do something with time travel/other dimensions I could see Cap choosing to stay in the past to finally get that dance with Peggy and that’ll be his sign off (with the door open for a return/cameo somewhere down the road).

I can see Tony not surviving.

[Kalyx triaD]

Why exactly would Shuri go into hiding, tho? Wakanda is still a well protected country and her likely claim to the throne as princess will go undisputed since M'Baku is cool with the ruling tribe now. And hiding development of resurrecting Vision would be a dick move against the Avengers who she knows her brother had no issues with. There's no reason for her to hide.

[Rammsteinmad]

Why are so many people fussing about Suri? I mean, she was a great character in Black Panther and all, but in terms of seeing people turn to dust, is is an Avengers movie... wouldn't it make sense to just focus more on the likes of, I dunno, Black Panther, Drax, Spider-Man etc?

[Rammsteinmad]

Look at us all. What a bunch of bloody nerds. :p

[Big Vic]

Because I can fap to Suri, not Drax.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Everybody faps to Drax, don't lie.

[Gray]

Why would they show Loki I wonder unless they planned on having him resurrected...

He wasn't one of the ones who Click*ed... Unless this would potentially mean the rest of the Valyrians and Co who died on the ship could return also...

[Shadow]

Because I can fap to Suri, not Drax.

Everybody faps to Drax, don't lie.

Big Vic just didn't want to admit that of course.

[Innovator]

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[mitchables]

slik can you please edit the thread title to read "endgame" instead of "end game"? the pedant in me is screaming

thanks, ily

[mitchables]

also, taking bets on whether nick fury as we know him is a skrull

mentions in captain marvel that he can't eat diagonally cut toast, but is seen eating diagonally cut toast in age of ultron

could just be a flub but marvel seems like it would be smarter than that

[mitchables]

Look at us all. What a bunch of bloody nerds. :p

bunch of bloody nerds that can't get shuri's name right

[Seanny One Ball]

Explain the toast thing to me please

[mitchables]

in captain marvel, fury tells carol that he cannot eat toast that has been cut diagonally, for whatever psychological reason i guess

but in age of ultron, fury is seen eating toast that has been cut diagonally

so the theory is that - because they gave fury this very specific line that contradicts his actions later - fury, at some point, was replaced by a skrull who is now posing as him

it could just be meaningless/people overthinking it, but i also wouldn't put it past marvel because, like i said, it was a weirdly specific thing for him to mention

it'd also make an easy segue into a secret invasion-style plot line, if they're planning on doing that in the next phase

[mitchables]

there's also this concept art that leaked somewhere, apparently

https://i.redd.it/1eii0hwcmsj21.jpg

again, still taking this with a grain of salt, but it starts to stack up when you realise we only see what happens to three of the four skrulls who land on earth during captain marvel - talos leaves with carol and two of them die, but there's no real indication of what happens to the last skrull

FOOD FOR THOUGHT i guess

[mitchables]

also don't forget that fury "died" in winter soldier before making a miraculous recovery - who is to say he didn't actually die, and the fury that pops up later in the film - and from then on - isn't his skrull replacement?

[Seanny One Ball]

in captain marvel, fury tells carol that he cannot eat toast that has been cut diagonally, for whatever psychological reason i guess

but in age of ultron, fury is seen eating toast that has been cut diagonally

so the theory is that - because they gave fury this very specific line that contradicts his actions later - fury, at some point, was replaced by a skrull who is now posing as him

like i said, it could just be meaningless/people overthinking it, but i also wouldn't put it past marvel because, like i said, it was a weirdly specific thing for him to mention

it'd also make an easy segue into a secret invasion-style plot line, if they're planning on doing that in the next phase

Huh...

I would like this to be true.

[RP]

" We dont trade lives Captain ! "

[RP]

The 4 minutes where Thanos arrives in Wakanda, and Scarlette Witch holds him off. is one of the best scenes of all time.

[RP]

I think Thanos will try to fix things in the "End Game" and I think we'll get a different villain.

[Big Vic]

I think Thanos will try to fix things in the "End Game" and I think we'll get a different villain.

Hopefully "Kraven the Hunter"

[XL]

Everybody seen the new footage?

Tickets booked for 11:35 Wednesday 24th!!

[RP]

Hopefully "Kraven the Hunter"

That dont even add up to the story? What the fuck?

[Big Vic]

Tom Holland Did Not Get ‘Avengers: Endgame’ Script Because He Can’t ‘Keep His Mouth Shut’ (https://www.yahoo.com/movies/tom-holland-did-not-avengers-160250707.html)

Lol'd when I saw this because I imagined Peter Parker would have the same issue. Glad others pointed that out in the comments.

[RP]

I think Jane Foster and Sharon Carter will be back in this movie in some way.

[Lock Jaw]

As lovers?

[RP]

As lovers?

God I hope so.

[XL]

https://youtu.be/9QbltzIUV6w

Clip.

[Sixx]

https://youtu.be/9QbltzIUV6w

Clip.

HAte to say it, but thattrailer is pretty meh.

[XL]

It’s not a trailer.

[GD]

I am watching this movie at 2:30 AM

[mitchables]

seeing this tonight, should be pretty good i hope

[Blue Demon]

I'm going Thursday evening. Getting excited.

[XL]

No Post Credit apparently. Will confirm in 7.5 hours.

[mitchables]

it was great. so much fan service. couple of big moments got actual pops in the theatre. couple of nitpicks but honestly given the scale and scope i don't think we could have asked for a better result. you guys will love it.

rp what is your problem

[XL]

No Post Credit apparently. Will confirm in 7.5 hours.

Can confirm no post credit.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Already reserved tickets.......for Tuesday lol. Excited. Based on reviews, it sounds like the first 2 hours are good but there's a lot to set up, a lot going on, but once the 3rd act gets going the movie kicks into gear. Pretty excited.

[Impeccable]

Quite simply the best film I've ever seen in the cinema. Would gladly go back and see again and again.

[XL]

Already reserved tickets.......for Tuesday lol. Excited. Based on reviews, it sounds like the first 2 hours are good but there's a lot to set up, a lot going on, but once the 3rd act gets going the movie kicks into gear. Pretty excited.

Would agree with this.

At the risk of being chased off the internet, there was a lot I didn’t like about the movie but the last hour really worked.

[GD]

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

Would agree with this.

At the risk of being chased off the internet, there was a lot I didn’t like about the movie but the last hour really worked.

This is what the reviews I've read lead me to believe so far. There's a lot "they throw a lot stuff at you to try to resolve 10 yrs of story telling, it doesn't all workor land, but the finale is immensely satisfying".

The last one was about as close to perfect as you're going to get. So if this one's 70% of Infinity Wars, then bravo.

[mitchables]

Would agree with this.

At the risk of being chased off the internet, there was a lot I didn’t like about the movie but the last hour really worked.

nah i'm with you on this too. i thought it was a very strong ending to 10+ years of narrative but was definitely far from perfect. i think, on balance, i probably enjoyed infinity war more.

stray thoughts and observations:

- i think they took thor's 'funny' characterisation a step too far, maybe? his initial reimagining in ragnarok was goddamn inspired, and they balanced his humorous and serious aspects beautifully in infinity war, but he just felt a bit too goofy for me in endgame. idk. maybe i am being harsh. but his arc was the only one - compared with the other original avengers, anyway - that felt kind of unsatisfying imo

- on the other end of the spectrum, i goddamn loved banner-hulk. that was absolutely wonderful and a far more satisfying outcome for that character

- steve's arc, also, just beautifully wrapped up. also lol @ "that IS america's ass"

- i accept the 'going back and changing the past doesn't change the future' rhetoric, which enables things like future nebula killing past nebula without erasing herself -- even if it feels flimsy as hell compared to the more logical framework presented by back to the future etc -- but surely thanos travelling to the future and dying there would change things regardless; i.e. thanos goes to the future to attack the avengers and ends up getting dusted; therefore, thanos isn't around to make his later attack(s) in 2018, meaning he never gets all the infinity stones, meaning the events of infinity war should never have happened in the first place. right?!

or is this some kind of "no, it created an alternate timeline, so there is a future where thanos doesn't attack in 2018, but that's not 'our' timeline because time travel is bullshit" bullshit

- so there's a random loki out there somewhere with the tesseract -- presumably gonna be the loki we get for his series. deft workaround, i guess

- i guess if gamora's in gotg 3, she's gonna be 2014 gamora also?

- ok so speaking of gamora, the soul stone demands a sacrifice from the person who wants the stone, right? hence why thanos flings gamora off the cliff -- he sacrifices her to earn it. but nat/clint were both trying to kill themselves; doesn't that mean the other one didn't actually sacrifice anything? sure, clint lost someone he loved, but he didn't sacrifice her. in fact, he was actively trying to stop her sacrifice. i dunno. this film was so narratively overstuffed i might have missed some logical explanation for why suicide would work as a means of giving someone else the stone but it seems a stretch

- also how is clint just holding the soul stone when he wakes up, when it was made clear in guardians and other movies that ordinary people can't just handle the stones? the collector's offsider tries to grab the power stone in gotg 1 and literally explodes. actually, this movie has a lot of problems now that i really think about it

- odds that the 'falcon and winter soldier' series will be called 'captain america and winter soldier'? or will sam keep the falcon name regardless? either way, i really loved the way cap's (and sam's) story played out. again, contrary to thor, i think steve's arc really was handled beautifully

- the random teen at stark's funeral was the kid from iron man 3. i had to look it up because in the cinema i was just like 'who the fuck is that?' -- and i watched iron man 3 like two weeks ago so i am sure i am not the only one who doesn't recognise him.

- on that note, i was actually surprised that only nat and stark died. i was expecting a higher body count for the avengers themselves tbh

- i like that they gave carol her comics-accurate haircut. suited her well. i also appreciated that they didn't really make her the be-all-and-end-all deus ex machina i was expecting her to be. she helped a lot, but was hardly vital

- rocket holding nebula's hand on the ship's steps, his distress when he's trapped under the building debris, and when he tries to shield groot during the end battle are all heartbreaking li'l moments. i know he is a cgi raccoon but goddamn

- tom holland is, as always, an absolute joy. paul rudd also really good at bringing levity where it was needed and appreciated

- whole theatre popped like crazy for cap wielding mjolnir. that reveal and sequence was, admittedly, glorious

- 'i am... inevitable.' 'yeah? well, i... am... iron man' -- predictable as hell, but also absolutely perfect

so yeah... this all may seem like i'm being super-down on the film; i'm not -- i really, really enjoyed it and will undoubtedly watch it again, possibly even once more while it's at the movies, but i also don't think it was the best thing i've ever seen in a cinema at all. to each their own though i guess

[slik]

I really loved it overall.

There's so much going on in it that it's hard to remember everything. Every character gets at least one big moment. Two I didn't expect to have as large of roles as they did.



Ant-Man
Nebula



I don't think it's perfect - but I concur w/ sentiment it's immensely satisfying and you will laugh and feel really emotional, both, multiple times throughout.

[slik]

I also really like that



We got the trinity of Thor, Cap and Tony battling Thanos

Cap and Tony's stories wrap up, but Thor's still has more to tell.

I guess this means the Black Widow film will be a prequel.

People in my theater went nuts for Cap/Mjolnir and the return of Peter Parker.

[mitchables]

I really loved it overall.

There's so much going on in it that it's hard to remember everything. Every character gets at least one big moment. Two I didn't expect to have as large of roles as they did.



Ant-Man
Nebula



I don't think it's perfect - but I concur w/ sentiment it's immensely satisfying and you will laugh and feel really emotional, both, multiple times throughout.

yeah i worry that my criticisms made it seem like i didn't love it... absolutely not the case. it really was v satisfying and immense and fantastic in all regards but i also think it's very easy to forgive a lot of its foibles (including many of the things i mentioned in my previous post) because of the investment of time and emotion we've put into these films over the past decade

i'll probably enjoy it (even) more on a second go-around

[slik]

I didn't take it as you didn't like it at all @ my pal Mitch Ables!

For some reason this line keeps popping in my head from the movie



I get emails from a raccoon

[mitchables]

I didn't take it as you didn't like it at all @ my pal Mitch Ables!

For some reason this line keeps popping in my head from the movie



I get emails from a raccoon



that was a great line


stark's "he turn into a baby?" was also a+ delivery from rdj

[Corporate CockSnogger]

Great film, so much fan service and so many nods to the comics, other films in the franchise etc

Couple of things

- the time travel stuff is a lil bit ropey, but it's always going to be with time travel. The different realities and stuff would be fine, but even so, Thanos was taken out of his reality and into the future so technically nothing he does post-2014 would have happened. Plus Cap showing up as an old man in the same reality he was originally from sorta throws a curve ball into it all, but yeah, time travel is always ropey so it can be glossed over s bit. Glad they didn't just "undo" infinity war in it's entirety tho. Which kinda leads me to...

- if everyone was brought back 5 years later, then the world would still be a total mess. People would have moved on, maybe got new families, just for their old ones to come back. I'm hoping Far From home might touch on it s little bit, cause otherwise Pete's going to Europe with a buncha kids who continued to age for 5 years while he was dust. I guess they'll just conveniently have all his classmates that we know of being part of the snap. Or the whole film could be pre-infinity war.

- Really naive of me, but for a split second when Strange and Wong et al were portaling everyone into battle, i thought they MIGHT let The Defenders or Agents of Shield into the movie. I think the fact they brought in James D'Arcy to play Jarvis opened the door in my mind for them to bring others into play.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

So many other little things I loved


- Seeing Starlord singing from Rhodey's/Nebulas point of view
- similarly the other point of view of the avengers awkwardly posing over Loki after the battle of New York
- all girl avengers was cool
- "Hail Hydra"
- "Avengers Assemble"
- original antman helmet
- the kid at the funeral (that I also had to check online, although I'd read a few weeks back that he would be in there in some capacity but totally forgot) was a nice touch
- Everything Hawkeye did was so good, well worth him missing out on infinity war to get the Ronin version
- Sup with Cassie Lang seemingly aging 10 years instead of 5 lol
- Korg and Miek and them getting called dickheads online
- Just the sheer amount of cast members, the end credits with the special cards for the original 6 was great

So much more but just a few bits of the top of my head I wanted to mention

[Fignuts]

Fucking movie makes lord of the rings look like a playground slap fight, fuck.

[Fignuts]

it was great. so much fan service. couple of big moments got actual pops in the theatre. couple of nitpicks but honestly given the scale and scope i don't think we could have asked for a better result. you guys will love it.

rp what is your problem

Lot of pops in my theater too but

Everyone went god damn mental for cap weilding mjolnir.

[mitchables]

Lot of pops in my theater too but

Everyone went god damn mental for cap weilding mjolnir.

sounds like that'll probably be standard. did they pop for parker's return as well? those two moments stand out for me as the ones that drew the biggest cheers, though there were def others

cap wielding mjolnir was fucking great though

[Fignuts]

That entire sequence of everyone coming back was just one sustained pop in my theater.

[Fignuts]

Almost forgot


Marked out super hard for the shot of a lone captain america, beaten and bruised, walking defiantly toward Thanos. That is one of the most iconic moments from the Infinity Gauntlet comic, and I'm really happy they got it in.

[XL]

nah i'm with you on this too. i thought it was a very strong ending to 10+ years of narrative but was definitely far from perfect. i think, on balance, i probably enjoyed infinity war more.

stray thoughts and observations:

- i think they took thor's 'funny' characterisation a step too far, maybe? his initial reimagining in ragnarok was goddamn inspired, and they balanced his humorous and serious aspects beautifully in infinity war, but he just felt a bit too goofy for me in endgame. idk. maybe i am being harsh. but his arc was the only one - compared with the other original avengers, anyway - that felt kind of unsatisfying imo

- on the other end of the spectrum, i goddamn loved banner-hulk. that was absolutely wonderful and a far more satisfying outcome for that character

- steve's arc, also, just beautifully wrapped up. also lol @ "that IS america's ass"

- i accept the 'going back and changing the past doesn't change the future' rhetoric, which enables things like future nebula killing past nebula without erasing herself -- even if it feels flimsy as hell compared to the more logical framework presented by back to the future etc -- but surely thanos travelling to the future and dying there would change things regardless; i.e. thanos goes to the future to attack the avengers and ends up getting dusted; therefore, thanos isn't around to make his later attack(s) in 2018, meaning he never gets all the infinity stones, meaning the events of infinity war should never have happened in the first place. right?!

or is this some kind of "no, it created an alternate timeline, so there is a future where thanos doesn't attack in 2018, but that's not 'our' timeline because time travel is bullshit" bullshit

- so there's a random loki out there somewhere with the tesseract -- presumably gonna be the loki we get for his series. deft workaround, i guess

- i guess if gamora's in gotg 3, she's gonna be 2014 gamora also?

- ok so speaking of gamora, the soul stone demands a sacrifice from the person who wants the stone, right? hence why thanos flings gamora off the cliff -- he sacrifices her to earn it. but nat/clint were both trying to kill themselves; doesn't that mean the other one didn't actually sacrifice anything? sure, clint lost someone he loved, but he didn't sacrifice her. in fact, he was actively trying to stop her sacrifice. i dunno. this film was so narratively overstuffed i might have missed some logical explanation for why suicide would work as a means of giving someone else the stone but it seems a stretch

- also how is clint just holding the soul stone when he wakes up, when it was made clear in guardians and other movies that ordinary people can't just handle the stones? the collector's offsider tries to grab the power stone in gotg 1 and literally explodes. actually, this movie has a lot of problems now that i really think about it

- odds that the 'falcon and winter soldier' series will be called 'captain america and winter soldier'? or will sam keep the falcon name regardless? either way, i really loved the way cap's (and sam's) story played out. again, contrary to thor, i think steve's arc really was handled beautifully

- the random teen at stark's funeral was the kid from iron man 3. i had to look it up because in the cinema i was just like 'who the fuck is that?' -- and i watched iron man 3 like two weeks ago so i am sure i am not the only one who doesn't recognise him.

- on that note, i was actually surprised that only nat and stark died. i was expecting a higher body count for the avengers themselves tbh

- i like that they gave carol her comics-accurate haircut. suited her well. i also appreciated that they didn't really make her the be-all-and-end-all deus ex machina i was expecting her to be. she helped a lot, but was hardly vital

- rocket holding nebula's hand on the ship's steps, his distress when he's trapped under the building debris, and when he tries to shield groot during the end battle are all heartbreaking li'l moments. i know he is a cgi raccoon but goddamn

- tom holland is, as always, an absolute joy. paul rudd also really good at bringing levity where it was needed and appreciated

- whole theatre popped like crazy for cap wielding mjolnir. that reveal and sequence was, admittedly, glorious

- 'i am... inevitable.' 'yeah? well, i... am... iron man' -- predictable as hell, but also absolutely perfect

so yeah... this all may seem like i'm being super-down on the film; i'm not -- i really, really enjoyed it and will undoubtedly watch it again, possibly even once more while it's at the movies, but i also don't think it was the best thing i've ever seen in a cinema at all. to each their own though i guess
Agree with you on Thor. The guy should have been (even more) heartbroken; he’s lost his brother, his father, mother, his sister was evil, he lost his home, and half his people, then he didn’t go for the head. He blames himself but it’s all played for laughs. A little too much.

That we one of my overall nitpicks; the movie was “too funny” given the gravity of what happens/was happening. I get that Marvel movies are funny, but I felt it undermined a lot of the plot.

Some of the fan service/call backs were delightful - the “don’t do anything stupid” exchange between Cap and Bucky was great - but a lot of it was laid on very thick.

The All-The-Female-Heroes-Team-Up was way too tacked on. Bleh.

I’ve never been in a movie theatre where people actually cheer/applaud (it’s not a very British thing to do - but we had a pop for Cap being worthy, I think Peter got a reaction, and there was a guy behind me who shouted “yibambe” when Panther walked on screen :lol:

I think for a long time I was “concerned” they were going to undo everything and that wouldn’t have sat very well with me. 2 hours and 10 minutes in the movie came to life; I think at the start of the battle. Which is unusual for me as I’m not really one for action scenes.

I’ll be seeing it again with my wife in the next couple of weeks so my perspective might change.

Again, I thought it was good but there was a lot that didn’t work for me.

[Fignuts]

I loved Lebowski Thor. He had enough sobering moments to balance it out, imo.

Also thought the female team up was pretty badass.

Only thing I didn't like is that Hulk never redeemed himself against Thanos. I was waiting for the moment where Banner loses control and hulk kicks Thanos's ass, but it never happened. Felt like an unresolved plot thread considering hulk was so embarassed by his defeat that he regressed so deeply into banner.

[mitchables]

I loved Lebowski Thor. He had enough sobering moments to balance it out, imo.

Also thought the female team up was pretty badass.

Only thing I didn't like is that Hulk never redeemed himself against Thanos. I was waiting for the moment where Banner loses control and hulk kicks Thanos's ass, but it never happened. Felt like an unresolved plot thread considering hulk was so embarassed by his defeat that he regressed so deeply into banner.

seem to remember reading an interview with the russo bros explaining that hulk wasn't embarrassed; he had the shits with banner for only letting him out to solve his problems. thanos was just the final straw. so banner and hulk finding peace and coexisting was the resolution for that.

edit: yeah, here you go (https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2415671/the-real-reason-why-hulk-wont-fight-in-avengers-infinity-war-according-to-the-russo-brothers)

[GD]

What a ride

[Rammsteinmad]

How long do we need spoiler tags? Surely anyone not wanting the film to be spoiled should avoid a thread entitled "Avengers: Endgame"?

Anyways, I loved it. As others have said, there's some bits I loved, some bits didn't really work, but damn there was so much to cram in, and overall I'm satisfied.

My only real nitpick complaints are that the final battle could have been a bit longer, and maybe given everyone more moments to shine? I feel like a few characters didn't really get any moments in there. What did Bucky do besides turn up at the start? Or Groot? Drax jumped on a guys back for all of two seconds. And what did Hulk actually do?

And also as someone else said above, man, during that line up moment I'd have loved to have seen the Defenders, Agents of SHIELD and even the Inhumans in the background.

Still, when all was said and done, it was a great film, and holy fuck at "Avengers Assemble". It's one of those moments you wanna burst out into tears, joy, laughter, just everything!

[Seanny One Ball]

I always think it's common courtesy unless the thread title has "Spoiler" in it.

[XL]

Can someone put SPOLIER ALERT in the thread title?

[Seanny One Ball]

I don't think there are any active Entertainment forum mods.

[Kalyx triaD]

Don't even know where to start.

[Seanny One Ball]

In a good way?

[Helmsphere]

Trying to see if I can score tickets for today since my Schedule freed up but right now waiting for Fandango wait time to lapse which has gone from over a hour to as low as 15 minutes now back up to 30

[slik]

The only thing it needed was Joey Ryan showing up and dick-flipping Thanos

[Black Widow]

The only thing it needed was Joey Ryan showing up and dick-flipping Thanoshttp://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Sansa-Stark-Waves-You-A-Middle-Finger-Gif.gif

[Kalyx triaD]

In a good way?

A very good way. The only thing that comes close to a complaint I could only say in the form of a compliment.

[XL]

Hold on. Why wasn’t the plan to jump back in time just to get the Time Stone, use it to turn back time to the Battle of Wakanda and tell Thor to go for the head? Or just jump directly back to Wakanda and cut his head off?

Guess you shouldn’t pick it apart?

[Fignuts]

Hold on. Why wasn’t the plan to jump back in time just to get the Time Stone, use it to turn back time to the Battle of Wakanda and tell Thor to go for the head? Or just jump directly back to Wakanda and cut his head off?

Guess you shouldn’t pick it apart?

They explained it

The scene where ant-man suggests killing baby thanos, they explain that the past is set in stone and you can't change it. Any changes they made to the past won't affect their present, but instead create a divergent timeline. So doing that wouldn't bring back the vanished. Thats why 2014 Nebula and Thanos can die without it affecting anything in the present timeline. It's basically just multiverse theory.

[GD]

They explained it

The scene where ant-man suggests killing baby thanos, they explain that the past is set in stone and you can't change it. Any changes they made to the past won't affect their present, but instead create a divergent timeline. So doing that wouldn't bring back the vanished. Thats why 2014 Nebula and Thanos can die without it affecting anything in the present timeline. It's basically just multiverse theory.

War Machine, not Ant-Man.

[Fignuts]

Thanks, STD.

[Savio]

Guru Dave, not STD.

[Savio]

Spoiler below I guess.














Would have been nice to see a Hawkeye movie released last year dealing with him fighting a super villain within that 5 Years span

[GD]

Thanks, STD.

That deserved a correction.

Also,


While the theater audience was very engaged, they didn't seem to care as much for Captain Marvel. Maybe because she's a newer character. There was no audible pop for her big return during the main fight, except for when she no sold Thanos' headbutt.

The "girl power" Avengers moment was kinda cool but felt a bit forced. But I also understand that it wasn't meant for me. I can imagine it meant a lot to young girls.

Since RP ruined Natasha and Tony's deaths, it did take me out of the moment. I would've loved to experience it without any prior knowledge.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, I took my 8 year old cousin and when the lady avenger team up happened she lit up like the Fourth of July. So anyone who has a problem with it can fuck off.

[Savio]

I just saw it today and don't remember that happening, must not have had an impact on me.

[Disturbed316]

There were so many great moments in this film, I feel it lived up to the hype.

The last 45 minutes or so were perfect, absolutely loved it.

[GD]

Yeah, I took my 8 year old cousin and when the lady avenger team up happened she lit up like the Fourth of July. So anyone who has a problem with it can fuck off.

That's really sweet.

[Kalyx triaD]

Yeah, I took my 8 year old cousin and when the lady avenger team up happened she lit up like the Fourth of July. So anyone who has a problem with it can fuck off.

Or tell her heroes can be powerful regardless of gender and reverence over such a thing as gender misses the point of true heroism?

I mean it was a good shot, nice A-Force thing.

[XL]

For me it’s a case of; by all means highlight the female heroes absolutely, give them some cool shit to do, have them save the men/save the day if you must but the convenience of them all being within a few feet of each other in this big sprawling battle and just how tacked on it felt really undid it for me.

[XL]

Yeah, I took my 8 year old cousin and when the lady avenger team up happened she lit up like the Fourth of July. So anyone who has a problem with it can fuck off.

However, if this is the reaction from little girls worldwide I can’t really fault it.

[XL]

That deserved a correction.

Also,


While the theater audience was very engaged, they didn't seem to care as much for Captain Marvel. Maybe because she's a newer character. There was no audible pop for her big return during the main fight, except for when she no sold Thanos' headbutt.

The "girl power" Avengers moment was kinda cool but felt a bit forced. But I also understand that it wasn't meant for me. I can imagine it meant a lot to young girls.

Since RP ruined Natasha and Tony's deaths, it did take me out of the moment. I would've loved to experience it without any prior knowledge.




I could really see this being a “exit point” for a lot of people. The 10+ year investment has been wrapped up, do people feel as passionately about Spider-Man/Strange/Panther/Falcon/Bucky/Marvel/etc? Will those characters bring in the audience in the same way? Although it’s entirely possible they do.

[Fignuts]

I was a little worried about that too, but the X-men being under the marvel umbrella now will really help with that, I think.

[GD]

Or tell her heroes can be powerful regardless of gender and reverence over such a thing as gender misses the point of true heroism?

I mean it was a good shot, nice A-Force thing.

KT, while I acknowledge your attempt at being cute, you should understand that the world doesn't revolve around you and other people might have unique experiences that you cannot relate to. Cheers.

[Rammsteinmad]

Pretty much what XL just said in those last two posts. :y:

Edit: I'm on the wrong page, never mind.

[Black Widow]

However, if this is the reaction from little girls worldwide I can’t really fault it.

Pretty sure Marvel/Disney care more about who the movie is meant for and what they think instead of the grown men that will cry if what they wanted didn't happen.

[Kalyx triaD]

KT, while I acknowledge your attempt at being cute, you should understand that the world doesn't revolve around you and other people might have unique experiences that you cannot relate to. Cheers.

Racist.

[slik]

I could really see this being a “exit point” for a lot of people. The 10+ year investment has been wrapped up, do people feel as passionately about Spider-Man/Strange/Panther/Falcon/Bucky/Marvel/etc? Will those characters bring in the audience in the same way? Although it’s entirely possible they do.

I think Spidey, Thor, Guardians, AntMan, Black Panther & Doc Strange will all do fine.


Falcon & Bucky are getting their own show on Disney +, same for Scarlet Witch/Vision, Loki (rumored to be Loki interfering w/ a different era of World History each episode) & Hawkeye/Hawkeye's Daughter as a dad/daughter superhero team. Black Widow has a film, assuming a prequel, due out next year that's described as a James Bond esque thriller.


The real test will be the new characters. Shang-Chi will be martial arts heavy, The Eternals will be very much in the Cosmic realm of the MCU and it's been rumored Feige has his eye on The Black Knight (which would obviously be very swordfighting heavy).

[XL]

Do you think Thor will get another solo movie? Spider-Man and Panther I agree with Ant Man and Strange ranked in the bottom half of MCU Box Office; do you think Endgame will raise their stock? I think at the moment I’m struggling to envisage the next team up movie being anywhere near as epic.

Totally agree with the feeling on the new characters. That said; There was a lot of who are the Guardians of the Galaxy in 2014 and look how that turned out.

[Seanny One Ball]

KT, while I acknowledge your attempt at being cute, you should understand that the world doesn't revolve around you and other people might have unique experiences that you cannot relate to. Cheers.

Racist.


I love this sort of thing

[GD]

Not proud of it

[Seanny One Ball]

It's hardly something to be ashamed of.

[Fignuts]

I’d really like to see them do another Thor movie with the god butcher story.

[slik]

Do you think Thor will get another solo movie? Spider-Man and Panther I agree with Ant Man and Strange ranked in the bottom half of MCU Box Office; do you think Endgame will raise their stock?


I bet Thor does, since the last one did so well. I think Endgame definitely raises Ant Man's stock and I am very pleased with that. I'm a big fan of the Ant films so far.


I’d really like to see them do another Thor movie with the god butcher story.


I'd really like the current big Marvel event, "War of the Realms", to get a film. It involves all the other realms conquering Earth. Here's links to the first two issues (the others haven't come out yet) that can be read for free online.

Issue 1:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/War-of-the-Realms/Issue-1?id=152983

Issue 2:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/War-of-the-Realms/Issue-2?id=153782

[Rammsteinmad]

The Antman films are fun, and Paul Rudd is wonderful in his role. I'm totally for more films.

[Seanny One Ball]

Ant Man is my favourite. Paul Rudd clearly loves doing it, his face when he talks about it is always full of joy.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

For me it’s a case of; by all means highlight the female heroes absolutely, give them some cool shit to do, have them save the men/save the day if you must but the convenience of them all being within a few feet of each other in this big sprawling battle and just how tacked on it felt really undid it for me.

it IS a movie

[Lock Jaw]

Finally saw it..... there was a lot going on, and not 100% sure it all makes sense... but overall I enjoyed it.

I hope they don't just gloss over the fact that half the population of the world/universe is now 5 years older than the other half, and the chaos of that seems "big".

[Lock Jaw]

I'd really like the current big Marvel event, "War of the Realms", to get a film. It involves all the other realms conquering Earth. Here's links to the first two issues (the others haven't come out yet) that can be read for free online.

Issue 1:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/War-of-the-Realms/Issue-1?id=152983

Issue 2:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/War-of-the-Realms/Issue-2?id=153782

Does Marvel constantly have big crossover events now? I don't really keep up with their comics, but I swear I just hear of one after the other. Like one will start and then end, and then a month later I'll be seeing articles about another big Marvel crossover.

[Fignuts]

Yeah, too many. Most of them suck too. I just read Infinity Wars and I don’t even know what happened.

[Blonde Moment]

Seems like the more they try and fix things the worse it gets.
I kinda like Uncanny X men at the moment but i know its going to turn to shit within the year

[slik]

Does Marvel constantly have big crossover events now?


Yes

And while I want to call them out on it DC currently has Heroes In Crisis, Doomsday Clock going on and is about to have DCeased, Year Of The Villain and EVENT LEVIATHAN going on at the same time too.

[Lock Jaw]

I though DCeased was some out-of continuity random mini-series, not a big event.... and that Leviathan was just a Superman thing.... and Year of the Villain was also not an event but just one of their 25 cent one shots they have been doing.....

[mitchables]

Yes

And while I want to call them out on it DC currently has Heroes In Crisis, Doomsday Clock going on and is about to have DCeased, Year Of The Villain and EVENT LEVIATHAN going on at the same time too.

as lock jaw said, i don't think dceased and yotv are technically big 'crossover events'

event leviathan is, but it's bendis so really what did we expect

even then, heroes in crisis and doomsday clock are largely relegated to their own series (i.e. i don't think there's like "heroes in crisis: batman" issues or whatever the way there was with, say, civil war/fear itself etc - might be wrong though, i haven't really been keeping up with books outside of my core reads), although they will/do have canon-wide consequences -- but otherwise, dc's last big thing like that, really, was rebirth, which was three years ago now

and to be totally fair, i think dc thought doomsday clock would well and truly have wrapped up by now - v much doubt they expected it to still be concurrent with heroes in crisis by the time it rolled around

[Fignuts]

Actually it's the same with marvel. There's still typically only one major, status quo changing crossover every year. But they've been throwing smaller ones in between for years now.

For instance, stuff like Chaos War and Damnation, while pretty big deals from a story perspective, aren't given the marketing treatment of say Secret Empire or Infinity Wars.

[Fignuts]

Anyway, when it comes to marvel, it's all about the ongoing comics. At any given time, theres usually a bunch of titles I'm really digging.

Which is why I hate the abundance of crossovers. The more crossovers, the more often good stories are interrupted by shitty tie ins.

[Fignuts]

All that said, War of the Realms is pretty fucking tits so far.

[Rammsteinmad]

Endgame made a billion dollars within four days. Crazy.

[Seanny One Ball]

It was always going to smash records. It seems fucking crazy to me that Avatar and Titanic were the films to beat. Both of them are awful.

[GD]

Seanny, will you make an exception and go to the cinema to watch this?

[Seanny One Ball]

No, I know what happens anyway so I'll wait.

[Big Vic]

Titanic wasn't that bad.

[Lock Jaw]

Avatar wasn't that bad

[GD]

It's a travesty that Aquaman isn't #1

[Seanny One Ball]

Titanic wasn't that bad.

Avatar wasn't that bad


How dare you disagree with me

[Big Vic]

I honestly don't recall this female moment in the avengers. Can't find a clip either, can someone find it for me? lol

[Fignuts]

Titanic wasn't that bad.

Avatar wasn't that bad

They weren't that good either.

[Blue Demon]

Finally saw it..... there was a lot going on, and not 100% sure it all makes sense... but overall I enjoyed it.

I hope they don't just gloss over the fact that half the population of the world/universe is now 5 years older than the other half, and the chaos of that seems "big".

Maybe they aged the 5 years wherever they were?

[Big Vic]

They weren't that good either.

Yeah but he said Titanic was awful.

[Seanny One Ball]

They are awful.

[slik]

I though DCeased was some out-of continuity random mini-series, not a big event.... and that Leviathan was just a Superman thing.... and Year of the Villain was also not an event but just one of their 25 cent one shots they have been doing.....


DCeased is supposed to be Darkseid sending the Anti-Life equation via the internet, not sure if it's continuity or not.


EVENT LEVIATHAN Bendis said will be 'one of the biggest stories in DC history' and change the DCU forever...but again, it's Bendis, so that could mean that or it could mean absolutely nothing at all.


Year of the Villain will 'infect' almost every series. Starting in Justice League w/ the rise of the Mother of the Multiverse, Perpetua, it will see villains being given new powers to use on her behalf in multiple series as she attempts to turn the Multiverse into a weapon against the greater omniverse and her celestial siblings. Her children, The Anti-Monitor, Monitor and World Forger, will have to choose sides.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

It was always going to smash records. It seems fucking crazy to me that Avatar and Titanic were the films to beat. Both of them are awful.

Both are hilariously overrated. Particularly Avatar. Never cared for it.

[Fignuts]

Went a second time. Teared up a bit at “Avengers Assemble”. That scene is everything I’ve ever wanted in a comic movie since I was 5 years old, but never thought it possible.

[Kalyx triaD]

I teared up at the whole portals scene. Only other time a line up before the fight hit me that hard was the Rohan charge in Two Towers.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Alright fellas. Going in the theater for a 330 showing. In the endgame now and I'm ready to fucking cry.

[Black Widow]

It was always going to smash records. It seems fucking crazy to me that Avatar and Titanic were the films to beat. Both of them are awful.
Makes it even better that prick James Cameron has been trash talking superhero movies.

[Innovator]

I teared up at the whole portals scene. Only other time a line up before the fight hit me that hard was the Rohan charge in Two Towers.

TO THE KING

[Seanny One Ball]

Makes it even better that prick James Cameron has been trash talking superhero movies.

Terminator is essentially a superhero franchise.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah but he said Titanic was awful.

Ended up hating that film when I saw it because of a grudge I held for not being able to watch the new Mr Bean film instead and also struggling to stay awake while watching it.

[Lock Jaw]

Even one of the Russo Bros. acknowledged the ending "not making sense":

The Russos were asked how an aged Captain America ended up on that bench at the end of Endgame. Instead of providing clarity, their response added a new layer of complexity.

"If Cap were to go back into the past and live there, he would create a branched reality. The question then becomes, how is he back in this reality to give the shield away?" Joe Russo asked. "Interesting question, right? Maybe there’s a story there. There’s a lot of layers built into this movie and we spent three years thinking through it, so it’s fun to talk about it and hopefully fill in holes for people so they understand what we’re thinking.”

[Lock Jaw]

Personally I "don't like" when directors "fill in the holes" like that....

Like how after Infinity War, they came out and said something like "The Hulk didn't come out because he is tired of cleaning up Bruce Banner's messes".... which was like "Huh? That didn't come across in the movie at all. It wasn't entirely clear I guess, but the most obvious thing to think was that Hulk was scared after getting beat down by Thanos".

Especially when you could toss in one line or something to get that point across in the movie, and not via interviews after the movie....

[Savio]

One reason I am not a huge fan of Time Travel movies.

[Kalyx triaD]

I figure Cap just came back after Carter died at Civil War movie due date. He still had the suit and Pym Particles.

[Tom Guycott]

Can confirm no post credit.

Just saw this morning. Was weird to me; I heard a noise like someone was walking with an iron staff or banging an anvil in the distance, but there was no picture. Thought I missed something, and as the end time was like 2pm on a random weekday, there were no employees around to ask (enjoying the slacker downtime- I would have been doing exactly the same shit if I worked there).

Glad I saw Captain Marvel the day before. Wasn't "neccessary", but feels like there would have been a glaring lack of context.

[Fignuts]

I believe the noise at the end was the sound of Tony forging the first Iron Man suit.

[Rammsteinmad]

Ended up hating that film when I saw it because of a grudge I held for not being able to watch the new Mr Bean film instead and also struggling to stay awake while watching it.

Your grudge was totally justified. :D

[Ruien]

I assumed Cap just used the time travel crap to get back to the time with Bucky and the crew. He just used it waaaaay later than planned.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

What a fucking movie. Jesus. I'll put up a detailed review in the movie thread. But it's been 2 days and I'm still processing everything. I'll say it's about as perfect a sequel as I think they could've made.

I agree with Kalyx. I think Cap just lived out his life, and at some point jumped back into his original timeline once his life with Peggy came to an end. The Russos are better off not explaining it.

Professor Hulk was great. Clearly not the savage, unbridled monster Hulk can be. So I wonder if we see more of him or of his merger of consciousness was his own little sendoff. Regardless he was fun and I loved both his initialembarrassment of watching himself in the first Avengers and having to "gratuitously" smash about when he goes searching for Strange.

Tony's ark is fucking glorious. As soon as he mentioned he already got his 2nd chance, I knew this was it for him. I thought he and Cap might be both bite the dust, but once Cap found himself in Peggy's office, you could almost feel the wheels in his head turning. Make it out of this and use the Pym particles to come back and get that dance.

Tony getting his moment with his dad, the moments with his daughter, and of course his demise where he couldn't even utter a word, with Potts telling him it's ok to finally rest now, all amazing, fitting and deserved moments for the guy who started it all. I loved his last line being "I am Ironman".

Was pleasantly surprised with how big a contributor Scott was. Not gonna lie, I teared up a lot in this movie. But seeing him realize he'd lost 5 yrs and seeing Cassie grown up got me. The dad in me couldn't bare the idea of missing out on 5 yrs of time with my daughter.

I want a Ronin mini series. What a fucking bad ass. I've never been a big Black Widow fan, but her self sacrifice was devastating. Especially with Clint telling her "please, no". Great stuff.

My biggest takeaway and surprise was how they treated Thanos. I sure as shit didn't expect him to just sit back and retire. He looked like his will to live had vanished. He completed his life mission and was now ready to just let whatever happens, happen.

Then we get 2014 Thanos. Who is a fucking monster. Infinity Wars Thanos seemed very calm, calculated and focused on one goal. Whereas 2014 Thanos was much more vicious. He mentioned it was never personal until now. You could see that with how he fought. He was aiming to kill instead of trying to get people out of his way.

Spider-Man has a knack for creating emotional scenes. His first interaction and last interaction with Stark are so damn good. It does seem his entire cast was seemingly snapped judging by his ending, so I'm interested in how they go about that.

All in all, I can see there being a few gripes with the tricky time travel. But damn what a movie. Can't see how they could've done any better. It was emotionally exhausting and its sense of finality was something I'd say no other Marvel movie had. Excited for the future but honestly if this had been it, it was a perfect ending

[Lucky]

I might see this one just to see how it continues the story from the 2nd one with the robot and angry psychic girl. She was kind of hot.

[Shadow]

The only gripe I have is how bullshit their time travel rules were. Other then that...GREAT FILM AND A PERFECT SEND OFF TO CERTAIN CHARACTERS!

[slik]

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[El Vaquero de Infierno]

Back from the cinema; not as epic as Infinity War, but still so good and satisfying.

Like others have mentioned, the people in the audience went crazy when Cap used Mjolnir.

I was also very happy that Cap got the girl in the end.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Back from the cinema; not as epic as Infinity War, but still so good and satisfying.

Like others have mentioned, the people in the audience went crazy when Cap used Mjolnir.

I was also very happy that Cap got the girl in the end.

Say what you will for Tony, but Cap has been fucking thru it as a character. Seeing him come back as an old man and look happy was well deserved

[Rammsteinmad]

This film has been out for over a week now. We should be allowed to discuss it openly without spoiler tags. Anyone coming into an Avengers: Endgame thread a week after the actual release and expecting people to not talk openly about it is a fucking cunt.

Iron Man dies.

Captain America goes to live in the past.

#nomorespoilertags #stayoutofthethreadifyoudon'twantspoilers

[Kalyx triaD]

I recall getting a lot of shit for saying that exact point. Do not understand going in a movie's thread post-launch and having a Pikachu face over seeing spoilers.

[Seanny One Ball]

That's just willfully prickish

[Seanny One Ball]

Aside from that nobody is making an issue of it besides you two.

So you're effectively spoiling nothing until some poor unsuspecting bastard wanders in here because the thread title doesn't notify spoilers and sees some blatant storyline give aways.

It's common courtesy... Who has a problem with common fucking courtesy?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

This film has been out for over a week now. We should be allowed to discuss it openly without spoiler tags. Anyone coming into an Avengers: Endgame thread a week after the actual release and expecting people to not talk openly about it is a fucking cunt.

Iron Man dies.

Captain America goes to live in the past.

#nomorespoilertags #stayoutofthethreadifyoudon'twantspoilers

I think once it's been a week, time to let the spoilers flow. I didn't get a chance to see it till Tuesday so it'd have been ruined for me.

Fuck me, Tony's death was so damn good.

[Kalyx triaD]

Or don't enter the thread til you see it. It's saved text, it isn't going anywhere.

[Rammsteinmad]

Yeah, it's one thing if someone lets something slip on your Facebook timeline, but to actively go into a message board thread dedicated to the film and not expect spoilers is stupid.

[Seanny One Ball]

To actively go into a thread where everybody is using spoiler tags and drop a huge spoiler just to be a cunt is ridiculous behaviour.

[Seanny One Ball]

Or don't enter the thread til you see it. It's saved text, it isn't going anywhere.


This thread opened long before the movie did. Without the word "Spoiler" in the title how is anybody supposed to know that the thread contains them when before it did not?

There's no excuse for it and he should get a ban for it.

[GD]

Seanny, I wish you could see Endgame on opening night.

[Seanny One Ball]

I should have, apparently.

[El Vaquero de Infierno]

I did intentionally stay out of this thread until I was able to see it yesterday; I know what you glorious fucks are like.

[GD]

I should have, apparently.

On a serious note, these opportunities don't come across as often in a lifetime. You still have "The Rise of Lukewalker" to look forward to.

[Savio]

Reminds me of when Kris P got angry that people were discussing UFC 132 results in the UFC 132 thread.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'm not mad at it. I don't find spoilers particularly devastating.

I think it's shit for anybody that does though and it's not on.
Stop malicious spoilers. You have tags for a reason.

[Kalyx triaD]

It's a thread about the movie.

[Kalyx triaD]

You're gonna have ban me when I see Rise of MaRey Sue.

[Ruien]

What else would be discussed in this thread? So we use spoilers for discussing the movie. Fine. What would not be in spoilere?

[Rammsteinmad]

Seanny stop being such a pussy.

[Seanny One Ball]

Check the thread title. Spoil away now the people have warning.

Sign posting spoilers cannot be so offensive to you. You are deliberately being selfish.

That's fine. I can edit or delete accordingly if you start the same shit in other threads.

Alternatively make a spoiler thread from the get go next time.

[Seanny One Ball]

You're gonna have ban me when I see Rise of MaRey Sue.

Nah, this is a clean up job not a position of power.

Custodial volunteer.

[Rammsteinmad]

Be better off just using common sense and not coming into the thread after the films release.

[Seanny One Ball]

There is no good excuse for shit behaviour.

So from now on tag the title or the post or I will.
If you're determined to tell people what happened you aren't discussing anything anyway, you are maliciously going out of your way to kick up a fuss.

Just remember this started when you saw a spoiler tag and got angry about it. This is the opposite of righteous indignation. It's an arsehole being an arsehole and getting mad about it before anyone else even has a chance to open their mouth.

[Seanny One Ball]

Only turds would dare flex on an issue of etiquette. People who eat in their underwear.

[Lock Jaw]

I think the whole thing was orchestrated so Seanny One Ball could seize a position of power

[Seanny One Ball]

It was there for the taking.

[Lock Jaw]

In fact, not only do I believe that the circumstances of this thread were orchestrated so Seanny could take power.... I now have my suspicions about the entire 10 years of Marvel Movies that lead to this thread and the circumstances within. Can't be sure how deep this conspiracy goes.

[Kalyx triaD]

Coming into a TV or movie thread after launch and presuming everybody in it goes an extra mile for their lack of urgency is Shit Behavior. :fu: