Official WrestleMania XXXV Thread

[slik]

I wonder how bad the commentary team has to pee

[Mr. Nerfect]

In addition to missing wrestlemania being 3 hours i also miss it being in an indoor arena...

Aye. :y: Always felt like it added to the fight atmosphere and trapped the noise a bit more. I don't mind WWE doing stadium shows, but I wish Mania was in a tighter setting.

[slik]

Per Wikipedia HHH's match was the longest of the night lol

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh, The Bellas and McMahons also appear wherever the hell they want.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'll be genuinely surprised if the Raw Women's Title doesn't go longer than it. Triple H doesn't need to have the longest match of a Mania and he surely knows that.

[Sepholio]

Coles voice is giving out on him. Hes gonna sound rough tomorrow night.

[Sixx]

Read the results and really hate the Shane vs Miz ending. I mean, I didn't see that big suplex but why would the ref just give Shane the win?

Also, hate Spear as the finisher.

[rob11]

In addition to missing wrestlemania being 3 hours i also miss it being in an indoor arena...

I miss having WM at MSG when they did NYC.

[Triple A]

Wonder if owenbrown turned this bullshit PPV off after Roman Reigns won

[rob11]

Aye. :y: Always felt like it added to the fight atmosphere and trapped the noise a bit more. I don't mind WWE doing stadium shows, but I wish Mania was in a tighter setting.

When was the last indoor WM that wasn't a stadium? 22?

[Sixx]

Oh and who the hell is The Demon King?

[Mr. Nerfect]

When was the last indoor WM that wasn't a stadium? 22?

I think so. Vince apparently said he would never take a Mania to anything smaller than a stadium ever again, which is a shame, just for nostalgia purposes.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Oh and who the hell is The Demon King?

Finn Balor. He puts on body paint and suddenly becomes a bad-ass.

[GD]

PS4 app crashed.

[Emperor Smeat]

Crowd already showing signs of being too exhausted. Bunch of spots barely got any reactions.

[Sixx]

Finn Balor. He puts on body paint and suddenly becomes a bad-ass.

Oh. I fucking despise that body paint.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Coles voice is giving out on him. Hes gonna sound rough tomorrow night.

I hope they have Brock kill him again early in the show.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Brock beating up Michael Cole should become his post-WrestleMania loss tradition.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Wonder if owenbrown turned this bullshit PPV off after Roman Reigns won

Why is it BS? it's been pretty good overall.

[OssMan]

In bed now ...


watching


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[Triple A]

Imagining being in the crowd and thinking about having to commute back home and go to work tomorrow and feeling depressed

[Mr. Nerfect]

Yeah, I'd feel pretty shitty about it, but I imagine a lot of that crowd are fly-in and have it off. I'd feel so stressed getting in and out of the building, to be honest. I can imagine how hectic it would be to get out when everyone is like "thank fuck, now I'm outta here."

[slik]

Good match so far

[Dark One]

If they do a “two people get the pin or submission” finish, I am fucking done.

[DAMN iNATOR]

LOL

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can kind of see Brock beating Kofi really early to win the WWE Title. I don't see him being strapless for long. And I'm not someone that didn't like the idea of Brock being champion, but I think he could be "fresher" and more unpredictable without a belt for a while.

[Triple A]

Yeah match has been really good... crowd just seems tired

[Mr. Nerfect]

If they do a “two people get the pin or submission” finish, I am fucking done.

It would be a way for them to keep one belt on Charlotte and put the other on Becky. I mean it also doesn't make any sense, but oh well.

[Emperor Smeat]

Charlotte is a bit too loud calling the spots. Like 3rd one soo far that the mics picked up.

[GD]

Tables are for bitches

[DAMN iNATOR]

Yeah match has been really good... crowd just seems tired

TBF, It does seem like they're trying their best to give it all they have left RE: reactions.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kind of have a feeling that Bryan is going to go to Raw too.

[Mr. Nerfect]

TBF, It does seem like they're trying their best to give it all they have left RE: reactions.

The crowd would want to care about this. Becky is about as over as anyone on the roster. If they're not lively it's because they can't be. It's a sign that these shows are just too damn long.

[GD]

Poor Cole losing his voice

[Sepholio]

WWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[GD]

Holy shit! Becky just pinned Ronda. Wow!

[Dark One]

DON’T YOU FUCKING DARE CLUSTERFUCK THIS AWAY

[James Steele]

They better not do a dusty finish...

[Emperor Smeat]

That's it?

Match was pretty good overall but that ending was very anti-climatic.

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

did they botch the finish?

[rob11]

WTF lol was that.

[Jordan]

Great finish that will lead to a huge rematch.

[Sepholio]

WWWWWOOOOOO WWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOO WWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[slik]

Ronda's shoulder was up -- but congrats to Becky Lynch!

[DAMN iNATOR]

No way it goes past 12:30.

Not to say I told you so, @OssMan, but... well...I told you so, re: end time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Doesn't really make sense for this to not end in a submission. If there was a pin I can imagine it was a botch. Or WWE are just really keen to go back to Becky/Ronda sooner than we think.

[Jordan]

Ronda's shoulder was up -- but congrats to Becky Lynch!

I doubt it was on purpose but it already has a built in rematch with cause.

[Dark One]

FUCK IT

BECKY WON IN THE MAIN EVENT OF MANIA

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!!!!!

[Mr. Nerfect]

So Becky got a roll-up and Ronda kicked out but they counted the three anyway? That's a pretty weak way to crown a babyface.

[rob11]

Ronda's shoulder was up -- but congrats to Becky Lynch!
That was a one count then a two count. Still, good to see Lynch win.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Becky's apparently been a good factor for ratings lately. The general show is going downhill, but apparently she and Ronda have been holding it together. That being said, she might make even more of a difference if people actually believed in her, and you told the story the way it's going to have the most effective impact in rewarding fan investment and proving that you're not going to lame-duck her as champion.

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE's very lucky they got Saudi money now since they blew like 5 years worth of pyro budget for this show.

Mania itself was surprisingly very good overall and the best since Mania 30 or 31.

Toss up between Samckdown Tag title and WWE title for my match of the night. Also toss up between Women's Tag title and Reigns-Drew for most disappointing match.

[rob11]

So Becky got a roll-up and Ronda kicked out but they counted the three anyway? That's a pretty weak way to crown a babyface.
A submission would have been better. I guess that was the planned finish?

[DaveWadding]

7 hours of actual wrestling today. What the fuck.

[GD]

Kofi Kingston versus Daniel Bryan for the WWE Championship was my match of the night.

[xrodmuc316]

I'm ok with the finish if Ronda is sticking around another month for a rematch.

Otherwise you gotta have Becky win by tapping somebody out.

[#1-norm-fan]

Lol @ lady wrestling weak finish closing WM.

[slik]

I think WrestleMania was good overall but just too damn long -- a trend that started at 32 they really need to reverse before 36

[Sepholio]

I think WrestleMania was good overall but just too damn long -- a trend that started at 32 they really need to reverse before 26

I could see WWE doing a time travel gimmick.

[James Steele]

That had to been a fuckup. Such a bleh finish for a “historic” main event .

[Sixx]

So 2 weird finishes, eh?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm ok with the finish if Ronda is sticking around another month for a rematch.

Otherwise you gotta have Becky win by tapping somebody out.

Yeah, but why not just do the moment at WrestleMania where it really counts? You can do rematches later. You can do Submission/I Quit later on. This time one-on-one. Ronda's not going to forget that Becky handed her her first lost in professional wrestling. That's reason enough for a SummerSlam rematch. If you put Ronda over, there's your rubber. You don't need to keep holding back in order to milk this thing for two/three more matches, possibly more if you factor in them for multi-person stuff at Survivor Series and/or the Royal Rumble.

[#1-norm-fan]

That had to been a fuckup. Such a bleh finish for a “historic” main event .

Pretty sure it was just a way to keep Ronda strong without going with the obvious and having Charlotte take the pin.

[James Steele]

Great show. I was engaged throughout. Best Mania since 31. Just so long that the fans couldn’t give the main events the reaction they deserved.

[Volare]

Geniuses at ESPN....

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[Triple A]

Weird...

[slik]

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[Ol Dirty Dastard]

match was good. finish was abrupt but probably building to rematch.

[rockman725]

If that seriously wasn't a botch, then we certainly have the next potential screw job. I mean the way Ronda reacted, as surprised & upset as she was immediately after, no way she is that good in selling a finish with this little experience. Either the ref botched that count or it was done on purpose. Charlotte was out of the ring for something that was nowhere near devastating enough to "take her out of the match." Something just isn't right there on that ending. And I cannot believe that WWE creative is that good right now to come up with that set finish.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If you limit Mania to 9 matches, MAYBE 10, including the Kickoff, then you can actually emphasize who is important around this period of time. You're only realistically selling interest in a few different things. That's your show. Other shit can happen on Raw or SmackDown and it's better luck next year as to whether or not you're actually going to be important enough to feature.

And what do you even get out of being featured if it's in something people don't care about? It also backlogs the important stuff so that it doesn't have the impact it needs either.

[Damndirty]

I used to be almost more excited for the Raw after WrestleMania more than the event itself. I now feel nothing after this one.

[Mr. Nerfect]

If that seriously wasn't a botch, then we certainly have the next potential screw job. I mean the way Ronda reacted, as surprised & upset as she was immediately after, no way she is that good in selling a finish with this little experience. Either the ref botched that count or it was done on purpose. Charlotte was out of the ring for something that was nowhere near devastating enough to "take her out of the match." Something just isn't right there on that ending. And I cannot believe that WWE creative is that good right now to come up with that set finish.

Ronda's got a pretty good game face, to be honest.

[Emperor Smeat]

Going by Wikipedia and Post Wrestling, top 3 longest matches were:
1) Batista vs Triple H at 24:45 (Wiki) or 24:46 (PW)
2) WWE Title at 23:45 (Wiki) or 23:43 (PW)
3) RAW & Smackdown Women's Title at 21:27 (Wiki) or 21:28 (PW)

Observer usually does match times as well but didn't for their Mania report.

Shortest were US title at about 1 minute, Universal title at about 2:30 minutes and Angle-Corbin at a little under 6 minutes.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can see them going real lazy with Raw tomorrow and booking Becky vs. Ronda and maybe even Brock vs. Seth in rematches.

[#1-norm-fan]

Geniuses at ESPN....

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Lol That’s forced mainstream attention for you.

[James Steele]

WWE needs to hire back Pat Patterson or something because they can’t do main event finishes worth a fuck anymore. Eric Bischoff always talks on his podcast how part of WCWs downfall creatively was that they never had strong finishes. The story and journey can be fucking amazing, but if the ending sucks it puts a damper on the whole deal.

If the WrestleMania XX ended with that finish just so HHH could stay strong for the Backlash rematch the next month or Daniel Bryan winning that way at WM30...that would have been the complete drizzling shits. It’s Wrestle-fucking-Mania, end it with a decisive finish. You can set the table the next night on Raw for friggin’ Backlash/Payback/MITB/wtf ever. That finish completely undermined the great match in a historic main event the women put on.

[GD]

No Undertaker this year

[James Steele]

No Undertaker this year

First Taker-less Mania since WM2000, correct?

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE needs to hire back Pat Patterson or something because they can’t do main event finishes worth a fuck anymore. Eric Bischoff always talks on his podcast how part of WCWs downfall creatively was that they never had strong finishes. The story and journey can be fucking amazing, but if the ending sucks it puts a damper on the whole deal.

If the WrestleMania XX ended with that finish just so HHH could stay strong for the Backlash rematch the next month or Daniel Bryan winning that way at WM30...that would have been the complete drizzling shits. It’s Wrestle-fucking-Mania, end it with a decisive finish. You can set the table the next night on Raw for friggin’ Backlash/Payback/MITB/wtf ever. That finish completely undermined the great match in a historic main event the women put on.

I actually agree with this. Well, WCW not having great finishes was true, but they had a myriad of other problems to. Having generic finishes and the same finishes over and over again -- what with the distracted by music, roll-up spot happening at least once every three weeks -- does hurt. Great finishes can make a good product great or a mediocre product good. They can also make you invest a lot more and care about things.

[James Steele]

Honestly happy with the overall show, but that finish fucking sucks. Best paced “Marathon Mania” to date.

[DAMN iNATOR]

No Undertaker this year

"...and that's not a bad thing - it's a good thing! :D"

[Sixx]

No Undertaker this year

Thank God for this.

[My Final Heaven]

YOU LOST, CHARLOTTE. YOU WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THE FINISH OF THE MATCH. GO AND FEUD WITH LACEY EVANS OR SOMETHING.

[slik]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

If they had a clear vision with this and just watched the build to WrestleMania XIV over and over again and took notes on how to build to a Ronda/Becky main event, then this could have felt awesome. It doesn't need to be a carbon copy.

* Becky wins the Royal Rumble.

* "You weren't an official competitor in the Rumble. Finlay has been put into a match with Drew McIntyre for putting you in there, and if he loses then your Irish buddy is out of a job." - Steph

* "I don't like you, and you don't like me, but WWE has invested too much money and effort into promoting you as the Raw Women's Champion for you to lose to a disobedient entitled brat like Becky Lynch. I have appointed you a manager for your match against Becky at WrestleMania to make sure you walk out our biggest star and Women's Champion. Meet the maker of champions, Paul Heyman." - Steph introducing us to Heyman as Ronda's manager

* Cue the two women talking shit and Heyman hyping up Ronda as the new phenom of WWE, and their most outstanding star.

* Becky vs. Ronda at Mania with the "cage match music" to hype them both up. Becky comes out to her entrance, Ronda with the big star entrance.

* Becky eventually gets Ronda in her submission hold, but Ronda doesn't want to tap -- she's too competitve. Heyman throws in the towel because he can't stand to see Ronda get her arm broken. Ronda keeps asking him why as she gets out of the ring, dejected, and Heyman tells her "There will be other matches, kid."

* On Raw, Steph calls out Heyman for being soft. He was supposed to protect their investment and instead of cost Ronda the match. Heyman says that this is part of his plan. If Becky had snapped Ronda's arm then Ronda would be broken. By throwing in the towel, Ronda's pride is hurt. Ronda is mad. Ronda feels cheated, and she is now obsessed with proving something against Becky Lynch. She's not ready for the champ right now, but she will be, and when that happens, Becky is not going to know what hit her. Steph can either be satisfied with this, or realize that Heyman is pulling the wool over her eyes, and either fires or suspends him.

* Becky is the babyface champion; Steph is the heel boss; Ronda is the fighter with her pride hurt, training for a comeback; any heel can be backed by Steph; Heyman can be around cutting promos, either as a heel or a babyface, hyping the return of Ronda Rousey who is training away.

It's not fucking hard. Even if you hate the authority figures in wrestling, Steph has never properly thrown her weight around, and this sets up a clear thread for getting through your weekly television and a plethora of challengers for Becky. They can either be backed by Stephanie or forced into title situations by her. There's focus on the babyface and on her being a damn good wrestler, but she's too good, and it's rankling the heel boss who has spent millions on a prize fighter that can't beat her.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Do not envy the ring crew needing to take all that shit down at this time.

[Sixx]

Just saw a short clip of Balor crawling to the ring. The fuck is this?

Does he suddenly lose his ability to walk when he puts on that body paint?

[James Steele]

He’s always done that crawl thing with the “Demon”. It just was more noticeable because it’s the first time he’s done it at Mania on a 10 mile long ramp. He hasn’t always run around sticking his tongue out like an unofficial KISS member though.

[Lock Jaw]

So. I remember when they announced that there would be no more "split brand" PPVs, I posted about being worried about the future of Becky Lynch, and worried that she would not really appear in meaningful ways on PPV anymore.

Guys, I was wrong in my fears.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So. I remember when they announced that there would be no more "split brand" PPVs, I posted about being worried about the future of Becky Lynch, and worried that she would not really appear in meaningful ways on PPV anymore.

Guys, I was wrong in my fears.

In your defense, it was looking that way until they accidentally got her over by trying to turn her heel and actually letting her kick a bit of ass.

[Sixx]

Just watched that ending. That's awful. Why would they even let women headline Wrestlemania?

[Ol Dirty Dastard]

Bob Backlund beat Billy Graham when superstar had his foot on the rope and went on to have a pretty successful 4-5 year reign (or whatever it was).

[Droford]

Goes without saying 35 was better than WM 29.

[Droford]

Best part is I get to rewatch and some will be new to me since I missrd the entrances lol

[Mr. Nerfect]

God, WWE just ignores all the stories they have. Reviews from the show sound pretty positive, generally, but just imagine if they built up all the stories in a natural and authentic way:

* Batista vs. Triple H should not have been about Ric Flair or "shoot names." Batista left the WWE and became one of the biggest action stars in Hollywood. He did everything there was to do in WWE. At Ric Flair's birthday celebration, he should have used that as a platform with a live mic to point out to Triple H that since it became apparent that Batista was the true box office star of Evolution and is the one guy Trips could never figure out, he's been marginalized by the company instead of being embraced as a true success story in the world of entertainment. He can still be douchebag Hollywood Batista, but have him make some sincere points about Triple H's insecurity and their history.

* If Kurt Angle had wrestled John Cena, which seems to be where the fans wanted things to go, then you can show clips of their entire history. Cena's debut; their rap battles; Cena beating Angle at No Way Out '05; Cena inducting Angle into the Hall of Fame. Done. If you wanted to make a new kid, because the match was not going to live up to hype, why not Chad Gable? You know, another Olympian and the former tag team partner of Jason Jordan. You can have Angle select Gable as the greatest natural talent in WWE, and you can begin to tease some jealousy between Roode and Gable, with Gable taking the Glorious entrance into WrestleMania while Roode is left cleaning up scraps in the Battle Royal.

* Brock vs. Seth has history that goes back to 2015. It really tells the story of Seth Rollins' entire WWE career. Kicking down the door as The Shield and then playing to The Authority to get opportunities, now he's trying to prove he can do it fair and square on his own. Can't you just imagine the promos from Heyman telling Seth that Brock has not forgiven him for handing him his only WrestleMania blemish since ending the streak?

* Orton vs. Styles could have been more cerebral. Who is Randy Orton? He's a guy that has been working for the company for 17 years and has seen this prodigy come into his promotion and win the WWE Title and have to see him carry the WWE Title for a single undisturbed reign that lasted longer than any of his -- and he's done it in three years. A combined 1,169 days as WWE Champion between them, Orton can feel Styles closing in to his greatness in such a short time.

[xrodmuc316]

Yeah, but why not just do the moment at WrestleMania where it really counts? You can do rematches later. You can do Submission/I Quit later on. This time one-on-one. Ronda's not going to forget that Becky handed her her first lost in professional wrestling. That's reason enough for a SummerSlam rematch. If you put Ronda over, there's your rubber. You don't need to keep holding back in order to milk this thing for two/three more matches, possibly more if you factor in them for multi-person stuff at Survivor Series and/or the Royal Rumble.

I'm saying I'm ok with it, but I do not disagree with you. Becky tapping out either clearly would have been much better.

[Sixx]

So Cena turned heel or not?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm saying I'm ok with it, but I do not disagree with you. Becky tapping out either clearly would have been much better.

Oh yeah, I think what you're saying is their mindset. I just don't agree with it.

[Lock Jaw]

* Brock vs. Seth has history that goes back to 2015. It really tells the story of Seth Rollins' entire WWE career. Kicking down the door as The Shield and then playing to The Authority to get opportunities, now he's trying to prove he can do it fair and square on his own. Can't you just imagine the promos from Heyman telling Seth that Brock has not forgiven him for handing him his only WrestleMania blemish since ending the streak?

I think Corey Graves mentioned that Brock was looking for revenge for that one Mania.... and I remember saying to my friend something like "he is? This is the first time I've heard them say that."

I mean, to be fair, I guess I did fast forward through a bunch of the build to the match, but I don't remember revenge or that Mania moment being part of the build at all

[Evil Vito]

Just got back to the hotel. Really exhausted. Crowd predictably died during HHH/Batista and couldn’t fully recover even for the main.

Anyway it was a really long day but a far better show than WM29.

[xrodmuc316]

Oh yeah, I think what you're saying is their mindset. I just don't agree with it.

Exactly, from a logical standpoint to delay the payoff and squeeze another Month of TV out of the angle.

I am ok with the logic, but clearly a wasted Mania moment.

[Emperor Smeat]

According to those at the event, this is how bad it got at one point with the mood lighting.

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Also WWE spoiled the WWE title match early by selling the Kofi WWE title shirt and a new Bryan shirt that likely will be his new catchphrase now.

[Triple A]

What's the Bryan shirt?

[slik]

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[Emperor Smeat]

What's the Bryan shirt?

"And Still ... the Planet's Champion"

https://shop.wwe.com/daniel-bryan-still-the-planets-champion-youth-authentic-t-shirt/1223467B17.html?dwvar_1223467B17_color=No%20Color

[Triple A]

Oh thought you were talking about something else re: it becoming his new catch phrase

[Triple A]

Raining pretty hard here now, they lucked out with the weather,,,

[Triple A]

Has it ever rained at an outdoor wrestling show

Feel like the entrances would have been cool in the rain

[slik]

Digging the pirate theme


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[Triple A]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just had an absolutely horrific experience getting out of WrestleMania but this one is all on me. My best advice is never leave your house, ever.</p>&mdash; Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1115136900426289152?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">And last I looked, it appeared thousands still in the Uber line, and it’s POURING. <a href="https://t.co/dS6CPKtuFU">https://t.co/dS6CPKtuFU</a></p>&mdash; Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1115138086164402176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Emperor Smeat]

Has it ever rained at an outdoor wrestling show

Feel like the entrances would have been cool in the rain

Think Mania 25 had a little drizzle very early into the show but nothing major.

[Triple A]

hellish pics

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the wait for the post show train. absurd. wwe needs to think about shortening show. we are just leaving that area now <a href="https://t.co/r9vjNq6l2u">pic.twitter.com/r9vjNq6l2u</a></p>&mdash; Two Faced Wrestling Talk (@twofacedpod) <a href="https://twitter.com/twofacedpod/status/1115135055641436160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[slik]

I hope in the feedback WWE gets via things they send to fans everyone mentions the length of the show being too long.

No reason for the main show to go more than 4 - 4 1/2 hrs

[Droford]

hellish pics

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the wait for the post show train. absurd. wwe needs to think about shortening show. we are just leaving that area now <a href="https://t.co/r9vjNq6l2u">pic.twitter.com/r9vjNq6l2u</a></p>&mdash; Two Faced Wrestling Talk (@twofacedpod) <a href="https://twitter.com/twofacedpod/status/1115135055641436160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I managed to get back to my hotel in Newark in 2 hours. Got on the train at the stadium in 45 min though.

[Droford]

I hope in the feedback WWE gets via things they send to fans everyone mentions the length of the show being too long.

No reason for the main show to go more than 4 - 4 1/2 hrs

I'll be contrarian and say a 7 hour show didn't bother me but it'll be hard for them to do just about everything right again over another 7 hour show.

[dronepool]

WM35 was pretty good, G1 Supercard was a lot better.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I hope in the feedback WWE gets via things they send to fans everyone mentions the length of the show being too long.

No reason for the main show to go more than 4 - 4 1/2 hrs

They've had that feedback for a long time now though. I mean, if they announced it was going to be a shorter show to the live audience, I'm sure they actually would pop, which should tell you something right out the gate. But I think they are way too stubborn and in their ways.

[Impeccable]

I'm genuinely surprised they haven't extended Mania into two nights. HoF on Friday then Mania on Saturday and Sunday. Given the talent roster and the insistence on getting everyone on the card it would allow them to do that without necessarily compromising the flow or fan experience.

Not to mention they can sell the same seats twice and double ticket revenue. Given MetLife has been ready for Mania for about a week they'd obviously have to cover operation and labour (and pyro lol) expenses for a second night but a second night of ticket sales (and ppv buys as well as any sponsorship deals they can muster) would surely cover it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They could also promote the first one as being a big deal on its own. Like how they used to advertise a Mania based on which event it was. They made a huge deal about WrestleMania XX being a landmark show and WrestleMania XXV being the 24th anniversary (although they kept calling it the 25th anniversary).

[Evil Vito]

hellish pics

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the wait for the post show train. absurd. wwe needs to think about shortening show. we are just leaving that area now <a href="https://t.co/r9vjNq6l2u">pic.twitter.com/r9vjNq6l2u</a></p>&mdash; Two Faced Wrestling Talk (@twofacedpod) <a href="https://twitter.com/twofacedpod/status/1115135055641436160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I’m lucky. The second the bell rang at the end of the main event, I went to the bathroom right underneath my section and took a piss and then booked it out of the stadium. Was able to get on the first train to Secaucus. Got to Penn Station around 1:15 and walked to my hotel, back in my room around 1:30.

[Big Vic]

Fell asleep right after Kurts match.

[Blue Demon]

I was happy with Mania overall. A few 'meh' matches, but that's to be expected I think. At the rate they're going, Mania is just never gonna end. It'll be one, long, continuous wrestling card running 24/7.

[Droford]

WM35 was pretty good, G1 Supercard was a lot better.

People are complaining about how long WM was but G1 started officially 1/2 hour after WM (730) and only ended right about midnight so basically it was 1 hour shorter.

[#1-norm-fan]

Did G1 also have a 2 hour 4 match pre-show?

[Volare]

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[mike adamle]

Did G1 also have a 2 hour 4 match pre-show?

2 Matches, about an hour and a half long.

[Evil Vito]

Did G1 also have a 2 hour 4 match pre-show?

Pretty close. Women's 6-man tag and then they did a 30-man Rumble that went around 45-50 minutes.

[Jordan]

I didn't mind the length of the G1 Supercard.

[#1-norm-fan]

So it sounds like THAT show was too long and it was still an hour and a half shorter than WrestleMania. Pretty significant.

[Jordan]

In watching the G1 on TV I really wish the Women of Honor match wasn't here as well as the Street Fight Open which would've been so much better with Suzuki just squashing Bully Ray while Juice comes out after with a limp to get a shot in only to get choked out by Suzuki starting a program together.

[Evil Vito]

Yeah it seems clear Bully and Suzuki trading barbs on Twitter was them trying to set up the Street Fight but brass decided it was more important for Flip and Juice to get the moment instead.

I mean I get it. Flip's a full-time ROH guy and Juice works there a lot more often than Suzuki. But still.

[Evil Vito]

I knew if Suzuki wasn't fighting Bully, he had to be starting the Honor Rumble so he can get his full entrance. You can't deny that crowd KAZE NI NARE

[Jordan]

They could've done exactly what I said and have Flip and Suzuki leave while Bully hands outside and gets into it with Ezno and Cass and Flip comes back and all the stable mates come out and bla bla bla... I know it's woulda coulda shoulda but the weak moments as stated by everyone were obviously ROH moments.

[GD]

Reading some conflicting reports about the ending of the main event. Reminds me of that weird Owens Styles ending. While the match was good, the ending felt anticlimactic. Not worthy of a Mania ending.

[Droford]

I gotta wonder if Ronda really broke her hand

[Vastardikai]

The more I think about it, Joe vs. Rey was one of the best matches on Mania. Seriously, Joe comes in, minus the pageantry. Just pissed off with a chip on his shoulder. The match goes the way it does, Rey makes one small mistake, Joe chokes him out, and looks vicious. Stands over him like a Stanley Kubrick villain, and leaves like he owned the place. Joe has this aura that no one else has in WWE.

If Strowman carried himself with half the intensity that Joe does, he'd be their guy.

[GD]

https://i.redd.it/fh3v3uj9dzq21.jpg

[Jordan]

LOL

[Droford]

So it sounds like THAT show was too long and it was still an hour and a half shorter than WrestleMania. Pretty significant.

The crowd wasn't as in to the main event but I blame Jay White

[Droford]

Has it ever rained at an outdoor wrestling show

Feel like the entrances would have been cool in the rain

It was raining at 2 in Newark which just proves Vince makes a deal with someone every year

[Droford]

I'm genuinely surprised they haven't extended Mania into two nights. HoF on Friday then Mania on Saturday and Sunday. Given the talent roster and the insistence on getting everyone on the card it would allow them to do that without necessarily compromising the flow or fan experience.

Not to mention they can sell the same seats twice and double ticket revenue. Given MetLife has been ready for Mania for about a week they'd obviously have to cover operation and labour (and pyro lol) expenses for a second night but a second night of ticket sales (and ppv buys as well as any sponsorship deals they can muster) would surely cover it.

They could do the occasional dome show but have it start at 2pm

[Mr. Nerfect]

For those comparing it to the G1 Supercard, as #1-wwf-fan pointed out, it was about an hour/hour-and-a-half shorter. That’s up to half-a-good-Mania. Also, it’s not always about how long a show actually is; sometimes it is about how long it feels. If G1 worked, it worked. That could just be because it was a better show, was structured to build better, or that Mania just wasn’t there. Fans are also just generally exposed more to WWE. If you’re going to eat ice-cream for 6+ hours, you might prefer rum ‘n’ raisin as opposed to vanilla. The rum might get you a little drunk, at least.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

I fell asleep during the beginning of Triple H and Batista and then called it a night. Not because I was bored. I was very much enjoying the show. But it was just too much.

[slik]

I wonder if the logistics complaints will stop WWE from returning to MetLife for a while...

Vegas and LA stadiums both looming...Levi's probably 'itching' to host again...

[slik]

Then again everyone says the Orlando Stadium is in the worst part of the city and a massive dump despite renovations and Vinny Mac loves O-town

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can see Atlanta getting it one of these years.

[Vastardikai]

More ridiculous on commentary: Drunk Booker T or HBK that was possessed by Vince McMahon?

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Watched most of mania. So here's my review of what I bothered to sit thru.

Brock v Rollins
Was surprised it open but didn't mind it. The crowd was pumped right from the start, and were into Seth. I loved the match as a whole. And even tho it wasn't clean, Rollins did win decisively. No run ins. No distractions or other shenanigans. No 50 F5s. Obvs the low blow isn't clean but it was good enough.

Aj v Orton
Thought this was pretty good. Orton has this deliberate pace that sometimes works really well but can also be a momentum killer. It didn't drag tho and they had pretty good chemistry. Orton sells so well. Thought this might win match of the night going on. It didn't but it's still one of the better Randy Orton matches.

Kofi v Bryan
Match of the night. Crowd was huge into Kofi from the onset. The way the match was structured and paced was perfect. Loved all the little counters and the ending was perfect. Even tho I was for Bryan retaining, Kofi getting his moment was great and now that crowd reaction gets to live forever.

Angle v Corbin
Blah. What a shit way to send off one of the best stars ever. Kurt can't really go at all, and Corbin wasn't gonna pull a good match out of him. Shame we didn't get Cena.

The Elias/Cena skit was great. Cena coming out in the old gimmick and getting the entire arena to chant his name was awesome.

Becky v Charlotte v Ronda
This was actually a really good match. Paced really well and some really good spots. The shame is that the crowd seemed to want to be into it, but were burnt the fuck out. The finish was also odd. I don't mind Becky winning on a roll up at all. I think they could've drug it out longer before hand tho. Ronda was booked to be unstoppable. Great. Take out Charlotte, then have Ronda beat down Becky but be unable to pin or submit her, her frustrated and Becky takes advantage and wins with the same finish.

What I decide to sit thru was really good. But I think I left out about half the show if not more, and didn't bother looking at the pre show. Shit is just too long. Crowd gets burned out and the show itself is bloated. The matches don't mean as much when everyone and their brother is wrestling on the show.

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s a new day. Yes. It. Is. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KofiMania?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KofiMania</a></p>&mdash; Wendy's (@Wendys) <a href="https://twitter.com/Wendys/status/1115067849733808129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 8, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Which made me realize if they had made it the ME it literally would have been a new day

[Droford]

The big E burger would be 5 patties cause 3 ain't enough

[slik]

Now that I think about it, WrestleMania in Los Angeles one day is likely to be a logistics nightmare too.

The new NFL Stadium is nowhere near Staples Center and LA is pretty de-centralized and spread out in general.

[Mr. Nerfect]

More ridiculous on commentary: Drunk Booker T or HBK that was possessed by Vince McMahon?

I now want to see a team of all three — Vince, Shawn and Booker T.

[RaginRonic]

Some stats about Kofi Kingston's win last night.

1-First ever WWE Champion born in Africa(Kumasi, Ashanti, Ghana to be specific).

2-First ever WWE Champion who is a full-blood African-American(no racist, just simple statement of fact).

3-The 51st all-time possessor of the WWE World Heavyweight Championship.

4-Became the 30th Triple Crown Winner

5-Became the 20th overall Grand Slam Winner under either format.

Also, The New Day's role in WWE history has now been elevated to one that has changed something about the wrestling world(kind of like groups such as The Four Horsemen, the new World order, and D-Generation X before them).

With Kofi's win, I could see, in future, Xavier Woods and Big E also be in line for a title opportunity as well. I mean, why not do 'The Shield' treatment with The New Day?

In any event, I'm happy to see Kofi finally pull this one down, and now, become a WWE Legend.

I wonder what The New Day will have planned for SmackDown tomorrow night? XB

[Mr. Nerfect]

I kind of hate that they throw around Grand Slam so willy-nilly now. Isn't the Grand Slam supposed to be the biggest championships in a sport? Yeah, in tennis it's four, but when you've got six openweight championships, it should be all six. Seth Rollins still needs to win the SmackDown Tag Team Titles; Randy Orton still needs to win the Universal Title; Roman Reigns still needs to win the SmackDown Tag Team Titles; Kofi Kingston still needs to win a Universal Title, etc.

Seems weird to me to say that Kofi is a Grand Slam Champion, but when there's a major championship he hasn't won (the major championship) it's like "oh, no, he hasn't won that."

There shouldn't be a recognized Grand Slam Champion at the moment. I guess you could make a case for Shawn Michaels having done it when that was a case of all the belts worth winning in WWE, but when you have guys winning 4/6 belts, it seems really trivial.

Kofi is the first African-born WWE Champion though. No disputing that one. WWE also recognized Booker T, Bobby Lashley and Mark Henry as black World Champions, so that makes him the fifth, although only Rock is recognized by an active World Title's history.

[Evil Vito]

With the annual complaint about pillars obstructing views, I still can’t believe they don’t just go with something like WM24

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2001/2414821119_34fe9c27ed.jpg

The purpose of the pillars is to rig up the lights, speakers, and screens. And that’s what this does.

But no. WWE need to make it decorative (WM28/29) or make them giant LEDs so it looks flashy on TV even though it screws over thousands of paying customers.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Outside of Ron Simmons and Booker T, did another black wrestler win the WCW Title? I don't think they did.

Have their been any black World Champions outside that? I think Bobo Brazil got a sniff, but I'm not sure if it's been recognized. Ron Killings in TNA doesn't count, lol. Nor does Ezekiel Jackson in WWECW count. I remember hearing something about the early days of the NWA Title, but I can't remember the name. I don't think it was a World Heavyweight Championship, looking into it briefly.

[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently the NJ Transit was really upset with WWE after the show ended. WWE didn't bother to tell them the show was going to run beyond midnight and because of regulations, that's why transportation after the show was a nightmare.

Also seems Vince once again messed around with Mania plans since he decided during the pre-show to shuffle the card around. Universal title match wasn't originally planned to go on first nor was Hogan told about the changes which is why he was surprised to see Heyman on stage.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, kind of think Vince is losing it a bit.

Like, literally -- not just in a "boo, Vince doesn't do what I want" sort of way.

[Sepholio]

I'm going to have to say fuck NJ transit. WWE didn't notify them the event wouldn't be over til after 12? Seriously? GTFOH, that's a garbage excuse instead of just admitting they got overwhelmed.

What happens when theres a baseball/basketball/football game and they run past midnight for whatever reason? Happens a lot. Do they get pissy at the league for not telling them in advance? I seriously doubt it. Just seems like such a petty complaint.

[Sepholio]

Also I don't really see how the show ending before or after 12 should even have an impact. Are they suggesting that if the show ended 15-20 minutes earlier there wouldn't have been transit issues?

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm going to have to say fuck NJ transit. WWE didn't notify them the event wouldn't be over til after 12? Seriously? GTFOH, that's a garbage excuse instead of just admitting they got overwhelmed.

What happens when theres a baseball/basketball/football game and they run past midnight for whatever reason? Happens a lot. Do they get pissy at the league for not telling them in advance? I seriously doubt it. Just seems like such a petty complaint.

Well, if the game is delayed for whatever reason, it's a sporting event, so the delays are more to do with circumstances than the whims of an elderly billionaire. Plus, maybe those leagues do notifiy NJ Transit and let them know? I know that transit is notified over here when there is a major sporting or music event at the stadium, because they get extra buses and they're clearly prepared to get people out of central areas. It's how I actually know something is on, haha.

[Mr. Nerfect]

We also have signs on the outskirts of the stadium region that let people know to perhaps use outer city routes to avoid congestion. They're digitized and can be updated with traffic conditions.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I imagine that it would also be fairly easy for NJ Transit to get the word out to Uber to notify their drivers that there could be good business in the area so people aren't waiting forever for one and there aren't people giving lifts for $200 or whatever it was. But really, if WWE had said "Hey, the show is probably going to go to 12:30," then they can have buses prepped pretty early to get people out -- boom, boom, boom. It's kind of their job to move around thousands of people. I think a dude working there could probably deal with it in an hour if he had known. You work out what the attendance of the building is going to be, how many seats do you need leaving the area, Bob's your uncle.

If they can't legally up transport at that time of night (not sure why that would be the case, but whatever), then that's something WWE, as a public events promotion company, should probably understand after running giant events for however many decades they have. It's also possible that WWE did know this, were told that there were going to be major issues if they went past *insert reasonable time here*, and Vince and co. just didn't care -- it's not their problem -- in which case I can imagine why some people would be pissed.

Don't really feel sorry for WWE getting blowback for not thinking about the logistics of this show -- especially when they tie it in to the locality of the events and the economic and ergonomic benefits of what doing business with a machine as polished as WWE means.

[Emperor Smeat]

I'm going to have to say fuck NJ transit. WWE didn't notify them the event wouldn't be over til after 12? Seriously? GTFOH, that's a garbage excuse instead of just admitting they got overwhelmed.

What happens when theres a baseball/basketball/football game and they run past midnight for whatever reason? Happens a lot. Do they get pissy at the league for not telling them in advance? I seriously doubt it. Just seems like such a petty complaint.

I'd assume its probably some mix of NJ's laws for transportation after midnight and wrestling not being counted as a sport but more as an entertainment or concert type event.

If it was counted as a sport, they'd have a lot more leeway to go beyond their stated end time for OT reasons.

Also seems WWE could have avoided this issue if they just called ahead of time since the way the NJ Transit worded it, WWE didn't even bother to inform them of the show running late.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's also likely that NJ Transit got a lot of complaints and pissed off people stranded at their stations yelling at them, tired out of their minds, because "you knew the show was on tonight, why didn't you prepare better?" and they were caught with their pants down, because they had no clue Vince was going to go that extent. There may have been a lot of abused workers with no authority, and even people with authority, who had no clue what was going on or why this would be happening, and it all could have been avoided if WWE communicated their plans.

This seems more WCW running late with PPVs, causing fans to call in pissed off they were ripped off and demanding refunds, when they could have just told the PPV providers they were going late, or just not run late, than it is NJ Transit having a hissy fit because somehow they knew there would be tens of thousands of people waiting for trains and didn't have any trains.

[Triple A]

Penne pasta


"De Cecco" brand (generally best available brand)


Just made it plain with olive oil/garlic

Also I don't really see how the show ending before or after 12 should even have an impact. Are they suggesting that if the show ended 15-20 minutes earlier there wouldn't have been transit issues?

This article says NJ Transit thought the show was going to end at 10:30 for some reason... not sure why they thought that

https://www.nj.com/news/2019/04/nj-transit-blames-wwe-after-thousands-of-wrestlemania-fans-stranded-in-the-rain.html

[Mr. Nerfect]

Didn't it start at 6:30? They probably looked at that and after doing misguised formal research calculated that WrestleManias go for 4 hours, perhaps not looking at the recent ones.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Or someone in WWE miscommunicated. It seems wrestling fans were prepared for the show to be a marathon, but when people heard things like "16 matches?!" they were like "this is going to go on forever!" like they were surprised. And you can't really trust wrestling fans to hold a job down in transit, so I can understand why they might of thought the reasonable end time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE have also presented themselves as a show for kids and adults with curfews. What children's show ends up 12:30am?

[Emperor Smeat]

This article says NJ Transit thought the show was going to end at 10:30 for some reason... not sure why they thought that

https://www.nj.com/news/2019/04/nj-transit-blames-wwe-after-thousands-of-wrestlemania-fans-stranded-in-the-rain.html

Someone must have screwed up big time and counted the pre-show as part of Mania's 5 hour run time instead of being a separate thing.

If you start at the pre-show, Mania would have ended at 10:00PM with 30 minutes of wiggle room for an over-run.

[Evil Vito]

Hearing all the nightmares of NJ Transit made me feel validated for my decision to run out of the stadium the second the main event ended. I don't know how many people fit onto that first double decker train but I was glad I was on it as I saw thousands of people queuing up waiting for the next one that didn't come for ages.

[Evil Vito]

Seriously love Becky but had I stayed to watch her celebrate it would've taken me another 2+ hours to get out of the stadium. What a nightmare.

[Droford]

Just wait til they go to tampa which has zero mass transit outside of some old timey streetcars

[Big Vic]

Outside of Ron Simmons and Booker T, did another black wrestler win the WCW Title? I don't think they did.

Have their been any black World Champions outside that? I think Bobo Brazil got a sniff, but I'm not sure if it's been recognized. Ron Killings in TNA doesn't count, lol. Nor does Ezekiel Jackson in WWECW count. I remember hearing something about the early days of the NWA Title, but I can't remember the name. I don't think it was a World Heavyweight Championship, looking into it briefly.
Rock technically won the WCW title.
Mark Henry won the WHC
Lashley won WWECW

[Black Widow]

I thought WM was awesome but you nerds probably still have shit to complain about even with the 3 internet favorites winning.

[#1-norm-fan]

Lol You found a 7 hour pro wrestling show “awesome”. Fucking uber nerd.

[xrodmuc316]

Transit is full of shit. Pro sporting events go into overtime. Concerts play encores. They got overwhelmed, fucked up, and are trying to pass the buck.

[Droford]

I'd like to know what they do for Giants Sunday night games (the jets never play on Sunday night) when the game doesn't end til 11:45

[Droford]

WWE have also presented themselves as a show for kids and adults with curfews. What children's show ends up 12:30am?

I was sitting next to a kid who got there at 6:45 and threw a fit to leave at like 8 which they did.

I know that Dad had to be pissed

[Jordan]

I'd like to know what they do for Giants Sunday night games (the jets never play on Sunday night) when the game doesn't end til 11:45

They will bend over backward to suck the cock of football.

[SlickyTrickyDamon]

Just woke up. Feel like going back to bed though.

[GD]

Just woke up. Feel like going back to bed though.

You need to stop with the all-night orgies, Slicky.

[Emperor Smeat]

WWE ended up fining the ref who botched the pinfall count in the main event.

Initially, referee Rod Zapata gained heat for the finish among some backstage, but that quickly seemed dissipate. However, at Monday's WWE Raw, Zapata was pulled aside by Vince McMahon, who discussed the situation, and Zapata was subsequently fined for the main event finish.

WWE referees are often instructed to call matches as shoots, and to only count when a wrestler's shoulders are on the mat. The stance from many, including Zapata, was that the match was laid out ahead of time and that Rousey in particular could have struggled to regain her bearings if the scheduled finish didn't work out. The pinfall was supposed to happen off the crucifix, but McMahon told Zapata that he should have waited until the shoulders were down to count the three, and if any of the performers in the ring ended up struggling to regain their footing, that would

Also seems the botch was made worse because of production deciding to replay the finish with the shot of Ronda's shoulder off the mat and Graves not keeping his mouth shut when the botch happened.

[erickman]

I am surprised they did not have one of the 2 main refs doing the match, ether rudy or little natch.

[Black Widow]

Lol You found a 7 hour pro wrestling show “awesome”. Fucking uber nerd.It was only 5 for me cause i'm not enough of a nerd to waste time on a pre show.

[poopfromweiner dude]

I’d love to get seph and nj transit into a room together amirite know what I’m sayin

[Jordan]

WWE ended up fining the ref who botched the pinfall count in the main event.



Also seems the botch was made worse because of production deciding to replay the finish with the shot of Ronda's shoulder off the mat and Graves not keeping his mouth shut when the botch happened.

I don't think they had much of a choice. Unless they knew the exact spot for the finish, which I doubt, the spot was an obvious botch, how could you not mention the abnormality of the situation? Why do they blame the ref? Rhonda should have kept her shoulders down and Becky should have made sure that the pin was tight.

I guess the ref could have just restarted the count but that as well would have been weird and anticlimatic.

[Droford]

I like how in the highlights they have to make the screen black during the pinfall

I wonder if they'll edit it on the network to a different camera angle

[Big Vic]

Kevin Dunn: "See Vince! This is why we need 75 different camera cuts!"

[wwe2222]

I like how in the highlights they have to make the screen black during the pinfall

I wonder if they'll edit it on the network to a different camera angle

They did that for most of the match highlights not just the main event I thought.

[Supreme Olajuwon]

They never show the pinfall from a PPV after the show. They’ve been doing that for as long as I can remember. It’s supposed to entice the viewer into ordering future PPVs so they don’t miss out I guess.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Now that I think about it, WrestleMania in Los Angeles one day is likely to be a logistics nightmare too.

The new NFL Stadium is nowhere near Staples Center and LA is pretty de-centralized and spread out in general.

They did just fine with WrestleMania 21.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They did just fine with WrestleMania 21.

That was in the Staples Center. :|