AEW Double or Nothing Thread

[Jordan]

Why doesn't JR look at the camera??

Probably because he is looking at the camera.

[Jordan]

Just wanna say I've been a Dustin Rhodes fan since the mid 90's and always thought he was an incredible worker so I'm feeling nostalgic watching him have the biggest match of his career in 2019.

[Evil Vito]

My body is ready for this.

[Cuzziebro]

Cody is the new King of Kings

[slik]

Probably because he is looking at the camera.

???

He is always looking down at the floor it seems

Hope he is ok!

[Jordan]

Was that some kind of Triple H reference?

[Jordan]

???

He is always looking down at the floor it seems

Hope he is ok!

:rofl:

[Droford]

too much triple h references

[Ben Rodrigues]

The two entry ways are confusing the camera men.

[Jordan]

Oh shit I know what is about to happen. Some Drago shit!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just tuning in now. How has the show been?

[Evil Vito]

Well...this isn't a very subtle dig. Could do without it.

[slik]

LOL

[Droford]

I dont feel that was necessary but whatever

[Jordan]

Oh man that was fun. Good one.

[Jordan]

Fucking Superstar moment for Cody.

[Evil Vito]

That was the kind of bush league shit they needed to avoid at all costs

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like that they aren't showing the Cody vs. Dustin videos they have shown in other contexts, which rewards people for paying attention. But this one to Shoes is really boring.

[Jordan]

Looks like goddamn Freddy Krueger!

[Jordan]

Damn these guys are in excellent condition Mene Gene!

[Droford]

throne breaker

[Fignuts]

Isn't this supposed to be different than WWE?

So far I've seen:
Bayley
Team Hell No's hug it out gimmick
The War Raiders, err Viking Raiders
Druids
Kairi Sane and Asuka
2 people having a shush off like a woo off
And they legit doing the point at Wredtlemania sign gimmick

Check out Dhalsim over here.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I don't mind the dig at Triple H. His whole thing is that he married into the McMahons, and Cody's thing is that there is more than one throne.

[Jordan]

No way Earl can drop down fast enough for the near falls that are going to take place.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Brandi is fucking gorgeous.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Earl Hebner was a shit referee like 15 years ago.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Good look for Cody.

[Evil Vito]

I forgot how many tats Dustin has since I'm used to seeing him in a full body suit.

[Droford]

i feel old remembering the natural dustin rhodes from 30 years ago

[Droford]

I hope they dont PCO dustin

[Evil Vito]

Earl Hebner still being a thing in 2019 absolutely baffles me.

[xrodmuc316]

That was the kind of bush league shit they needed to avoid at all costs

That was some Impact Wrestling right there

[Cuzziebro]

I’m concerned Earl will ruin this somehow.

[Jordan]

Dustin is so fucking good.

[RP]

what time does Alexa Bliss come out guys???

[Droford]

what time does Alexa Bliss come out guys???

46 hours

[Droford]

lol ddp

[Droford]

busted open

[Jordan]

DDP Stalking again!

[Jordan]

Oh boy we got a bleeder!

[Evil Vito]

Oh man, I had a feeling this was gonna be a bloodbath

[Droford]

dustin probably aint bladed in forever

[Droford]

im actually slightly uncomfortable

[RP]

I wasnt worried about the matches. I was worried about the production of the show. The camera work. I looks fantastic.

[Triple A]

Don't like Alex Marvez saying "wrassling"...

[slik]

Really solid storytelling in this match

[Jordan]

My god that's a lot of blood.

[RP]

I didnt need the close up of Dustin cutting himself even more.

[Jordan]

So fucking much blood omg

[Jordan]

This is insane! haha oh lord

[Evil Vito]

"The woodshed is open" might be the call of the night so far

[Droford]

damn that superplex

[Blonde Moment]

They should put this on TNT next week

[RP]

Alexa Bliss should run out naked and give Dustin a band-aid.

[RP]

The camera just caught Loki in distress.

[Droford]

cody getting boos

[slik]

This is a great match

[RP]

LOL at Jim Ross's hyperbole

[KIRA]

Giving his brother the world's safest vertebreaker

[Jordan]

Wow what a match. Better than I could've ever imagined.

[Cuzziebro]

Awesome match.

[RP]

Jim Ross lol. Please stop. I know you got a paycheck but for fuck sakes stop selling your self out.

[Evil Vito]

Wonder where that match ended on the Muta Scale.

[Jordan]

That was so good. I bet Meltz gives it 5.

[Droford]

best enemies better brothers

[Blonde Moment]

It was great to see them be able to tell the story they wanted and having it work.

[Jordan]

YES! WHAT A MOMEMENT IN WRESTLING! TEARS IN MY EYES AND CHILLS UP AND DOWN MY SPINE JACK

[Jordan]

Wow what an incredible moment.

[Simple Fan]

Damn did not expect that match to be so good. Had so much emotion to it.

[Jordan]

I don't think that could have gone any better. That was the moment this company will be built on.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Going back and watching it from the start.

* Justin Roberts looking dapper and showing up for the occasion.

* Really don't like the Battle Royal is for a title shot.

* Nakazawa uses baby oil? This is a match with World Title implications.

* Love that MJF has got "heat." He's fucking great.

* A lot of these diamonds look like geeks.

* Shawn Spears looked good for a minute there, then got poked in the eyes. Is he wearing contacts?

* Jesus Christ, did Glacier just "freeze" someone? And is Janela smoking a cigarette?

* Wtf is a Marko Stunt?

* Tommy Dreamer looks like shit. And I don't know if trash can lids are what people remember from ECW.

* Hangman Page is the joke.

* Awful exchange between Janela and Page.

* Luchasaurus is in shape, but what a fucking awful gimmick.

* This would be fine if it didn't have tacked-on stakes. This is not making me want to spend any money on the promotion. As I type that they are doing an advertisement to suggest that if I enjoy this action I should buy the PPV. :lol:

* I'm enjoying Jack Perry in this match.

* Joey Janela is shit.

* Janela ate shit on that Chokeslam.

* Wtf is this Orange Cassidy shit?

* Jimmy Havoc looks like the lead singer from the Eurythmics.

* Jesus Christ, Havoc is shit too.

* Lol, they actually went with Hangman Page for an AEW World Title contender. He couldn't even hold fan attention against Luchasaurus. He's good, but nowhere near ready to be the guy they build around.

* Lots of WWE-style bullshit not sticking to their own rules, a fake-out finish, some cliched stuff and some bad indy comedy. I did like MJF and Jack Perry. Already forgotten a lot of the shit that happened, but some good eliminations informed by some really weird and abstract philosophical decisions.

[Jordan]

Like all of the history in that moment, recalling the moment where Dusty asked Dustin to be his partner... what a moment man, seriously left me misty eyed.

[Droford]

uh oh

[Jordan]

Hahaha! Fuck you Vince!

[Droford]

lol the generic song sounds like the old wcw days

[Droford]

Hahaha! Fuck you Vince!

hope no one jumps him again

[RP]

lmao Brett Hart.

[Evil Vito]

lolllllllllll Bret

[Droford]

lol world championship wrestling

[Mr. Nerfect]

Pretty sure Jericho is going to win and go against Page, which my joke in the AEW thread. Sounds like it would be an IC Title match in WWE.

[Jordan]

This is why WWE scripts promo's lol.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kylie Rae really coming off as a Bayley knock-off in this backstage segment. Oh god, this segment is awful.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I do like that they've eliminated microphones from this.

[Triple A]

Cody vs. Dustin was amazing

[Mr. Nerfect]

Why the fuck are there even librarians? And why did they think Peter Avalon and Leva Bates saying "Ssh" would sell a PPV? God fucking dammit, this is some WWE shit.

[Droford]

lol i guess

[RP]

Gonna go out on a limb and say Brett Hart got at least 500,000 to make an appearance.

[Evil Vito]

Glad Noid is on ignore for what is inevitably going to be him giving up on AEW by the end of the night.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Glad Noid is on ignore for what is inevitably going to be him giving up on AEW by the end of the night.

How dare I have standards, you fucking turd-slinger.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Bret is someone they should really try and get to do some consulting.

[Jordan]

So glad they are pushing MJF like this.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I like that the commentators have introduced themselves and run down the card and the match order. I also like the match order.

[Evil Vito]

Seems like this segment is basically "introduce a bunch of characters to people who missed the preshow"

[RP]

Who is Mr. Nerfect?

Nevermind.

[Evil Vito]

MJF is incredible

[Triple A]

MJF my favorite... the best

[Jordan]

Wow, amazing title.

[Blonde Moment]

Looking forward to tuning into TNT this fall

[Droford]

parking lot championship wrestling

[Triple A]

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[Lazy Scout]

This has totally exceeded my expectations. I've been a WWE fan since I was about 6 years old in 1995... but, I've got a new fave now!

[Jordan]

I've personally slapped hands with The Lucha Bro's. So, you know...

[Jordan]

LOL I love The Bucks, this is gonna be special.

[RP]

What time does AEW come on this week guys?

[Corporate CockSnogger]

So this basically just seems like WWE but with different people.

Cody vs Goldust was great though.

Im a fan of Pentagon and Fenix. Never seen the young bucks before so should be interesting.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Liking the six-man so far. Daniels is so fucking good.

[Corporate CockSnogger]

There's been a few Lucha Underground guys which is good since it's the only wrassling I've watched in about 7 years. These guys should've just bought LU and ran with it

[Jordan]

Justin Roberts with the best intro ever just now.

[Jordan]

LOL JR just sounded like Cartman "Let's git it own!"

[Triple A]

Pentagon and Fenix rule....... this should be sweet

[slik]

I really love this show overall

[slik]

Cody vs Dustin probably one of my favorite matches of 2019

MJF is already the best heel in AEW, it didn't even take a whole show

[Triple A]

Justin Roberts really good... wasn't really watching wrestling when he was in WWE, why did they replace him with their current shitty announcers

[Triple A]

Glad guys like MJF can be "showcased" and be themselves in AEW... Would have probably had all personality zapped from him and become an EC3-like guy in WWE

[Triple A]

Forgot Darby Allin is also in AEW... so many good guys on the roster

[Jordan]

This is the best JR has been in years.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Really good six-man tag. Lots of fun. Kind of surprised by the finish.

[KIRA]

Oh my God I'm having fun watching wrestling I almost forgot what this was like(excluding nxt)

[Mr. Nerfect]

JR's commentary is excellent.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Allie looks fine, but I wish they'd not do the WWE/TNA thing of giving women one name.

[Jordan]

The Young Bucks are incredible.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kylie Rae was fine at the conference, but god damn is this gimmick annoying. It's Bayley.

[Evil Vito]

This match is so good

[Mr. Nerfect]

Fuck yeah! Awesome Kong!

[Triple A]

This rules...

[Evil Vito]

I'm gonna need a cigarette after this match

[Jordan]

This show is better than All In.

[Jordan]

OH man I love this shit.

[Jordan]

Man what a sick match!

[Evil Vito]

Bucks/Lucha Bros was fucking incredible

[Corporate CockSnogger]

That was sweet.

Bowing out now though. This is on for too long.

[Triple A]

Amazing...

[Triple A]

That was sweet.

Bowing out now though. This is on for too long.

Just one match left dude

[Mr. Nerfect]

AEW: We can't put Hangman Page vs. PAC on a show, because we can't have PAC lose and wins and losses matter.

Also AEW: The main event of our next PPV is going to feature the loser of the opening match.

[Evil Vito]

Chris Jericho headlining major PPV events on different continents across one month in 2019 is brilliant.

[Emperor Smeat]

Just tuned in. How has the show been soo far?

[Evil Vito]

Just tuned in. How has the show been soo far?

Up there with Wrestle Kingdom for show of the year.

[Emperor Smeat]

Umm why is there a cracker barrel in the ring?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Didn't consider the possibility that Jericho could be AEW World Champion and IWGP Heavyweight Champion at the same time. Not sure New Japan would go for that, but it would be a "story."

[Triple A]

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[Triple A]

Just tuned in. How has the show been soo far?

Really sweet

[Mr. Nerfect]

Just tuned in. How has the show been soo far?

I'm also new to it. Casino Battle Royale was goofy and shit, like a Battle Royal usually is. MJF was the stand out. Opening six-man tag of the real show was really good. Daniels is a great man. Women's multi-person is pretty poor so far.

[slik]

Good entrances for Jericho/Omega

[Emperor Smeat]

Up there with Wrestle Kingdom for show of the year.

Really sweet

I'm also new to it. Casino Battle Royale was goofy and shit, like a Battle Royal usually is. MJF was the stand out. Opening six-man tag of the real show was really good. Daniels is a great man. Women's multi-person is pretty poor so far.

Nice. Going to catch a replay of this once its available.

[slik]

Just tuned in. How has the show been soo far?

Really good overall

Dustin/Cody a MOTY contender

Some camera work goofs and Marvez is a bit of a goof on commentary but JR/Excalibur is good

[Triple A]

JR has been amazing 2night

[slik]

How did Kenny get busted open

[Triple A]

How did Kenny get busted open

Think it was from a punch by Jericho

[slik]

damn

[Triple A]

Feel like Alex Marvez has barely said anything since JR came on

[slik]

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[slik]

h8 Alex marvez

wish it was just Excalibur/JR

[Jordan]

This is really good. That superplex was intense.

[Emperor Smeat]

Ouch at Jericho landing right on his face from the Lionsault.

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: Jericho actually beat Omega.

Omega vs Jericho was pretty good overall.

[Evil Vito]

Oh shit, Jericho won :eek:

[Jordan]

Wow that was a great fucking war. Surprise ending but I did predict it multiple times.

[slik]

Wow, clean win for Jericho

[Jordan]

Better than their NJPW match IMO. Both are great.

[Evil Vito]

MOXLEY

[Emperor Smeat]

:D Moxley

[Jordan]

Wow holy shit I feel like I just saw Austin come out and fuck everyone up. Amazing event. Great ending, Moxley was awesome and came off electric. Honestly the best show I've seen in so long I can't even remember. Wow, I can't wait for more.

[Evil Vito]

Welp, AEW have a fan in me. Cannot wait to see where this promotion goes from here. What a show!

[Simple Fan]

I don't think they could have had a better first show. Every match delivered and had surprise after surprise. Ready for the next show now.

[Triple A]

Amazing show that lived up to the hype

[KIRA]

Awesome show a lot of streaming issues but otherwise awesome

[Jordan]

I never considered how Mox and Kenny would match up but I loved watching them scramble like that so I think they can have some great matches. Electric ending.

[Simple Fan]

Bleacher Report Live app also worked pretty well. Did have one problem before the Bucks/Lucha Bros match with the video freezing but just restarted the stream and that fixed it.

[Emperor Smeat]

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[Jordan]

Two natural programs... Jericho has always been fascinated with Adam Page, probably for the obvious reason that Page resembles a young Jericho. That match for the AEW Championship makes a lot of sense to me while distracting Omega with Mox. But first we get to see Omega in an exhibition of sorts vs CIMA and a tag match with The Rhodes Brothers vs The Young Bucks. Sounds great so far. Some of the undercard talent is under developed but that's okay, not everyone needs to be a star. The amount of amazing work in all of the matches was really high. I would be okay if it was still on right now because I just want to keep watching it.

[Simple Fan]

Cody vs Dustin was probably my favorite match of the night. The crowd added a lot of emotion to the match and Cody and Dustin fed off it in a great way.

[Evil Vito]

WWE are going to have to stop fucking around

[Simple Fan]

Only spot that threw me off a bit was the HHH thing Cody did. Felt weird and out of nowhere but the match made up for it.

[slik]

I loved that show overall

Great ending w/ Moxley

[rez]

Fuck. completely forgot about the show. I had family over to the new house. meh...sounds like it was good, tho?

[xrodmuc316]

Lol @ Ambrose and Omega. Either Dean does the job right out of the gate, or AEW books Omega to lose 2 in a row. It will be a fun match but they better be careful with wins and losses mattering.

[slik]

AEW made a solid case tonight they could handle a weekly 2 hr show

I have a feeling we haven't seen the full roster and there are still a few surprises to come before that first TV episode.

[xrodmuc316]

Also, if Renee played dumb with WWE about Mox she is gonna be in the doghouse for sure.

[rez]

oh, shit. Dean?! Fucking better than GOT fan fiction

[rez]

fuck. hurting that I got busy and forgot about it. was gonna buy the show, too.

[Evil Vito]

AEW made a solid case tonight they could handle a weekly 2 hr show

I have a feeling we haven't seen the full roster and there are still a few surprises to come before that first TV episode.

Darby Allin didn't appear tonight and is facing Cody at one of the next shows

[Evil Vito]

AEW merch department doesn't fuck around: https://www.prowrestlingtees.com/unscripted-1.html

[screech]

What an incredible show. Can't wait for the next one

[screech]

Only spot that threw me off a bit was the HHH thing Cody did. Felt weird and out of nowhere but the match made up for it.

This is my only big complaint. Always bugged me when TNA would bring up WWE stuff on their shows. I'd rather a company, especially a brand new one, focus on their own product.

[rez]

gonna have to buy some merch to make up for not watching

[rez]

fuck, still pissed i forgot

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I didn't know BR didn't have a "watch live/start from beginning option" so I jumped in right at the 6 woman tag.

Cody/Dustin was fucking immense. What a match that was. Then the damn ending with Cody recruiting Dustin. Amazing.

Bucks v Lucha bros was great. Wanted Lucha Bros to go over but oh well.

Omega v Jericho. What a war. Just a flat out fight. Judas Effect came out perfectly. And the fact that it won the match was brilliant. Then of course Moxley comes out and hits anything that by God moves.

Amazing show. Cannot wait for more. And good luck WWE. Your asses are in trouble lol.

[rez]

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[xrodmuc316]

Amazing show. Cannot wait for more. And good luck WWE. Your asses are in trouble lol.

Lol no, WWE is set to make 3.8 times more money from tv deals for 5 years. Nobody seems to factor that in to anything.

Nothing AEW does will change that.

[Jordan]

Lol no, WWE is set to make 3.8 times more money from tv deals for 5 years. Nobody seems to factor that in to anything.

Nothing AEW does will change that.

Public perception can change that.

[Malfeitor]

Amazing show to witness in person.

[slik]

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[xrodmuc316]

Public perception can change that.

No, it cant. WWE goes from making $130 million to $450 million without doing anything different. They will be making so much more then they ever have before.

If WWE decides to increase their spending by an extra $100 million a year, they STILL will make more profit then they ever had before by MANY MANY millions.

AEW can put on the best wrestling shows we have ever seen, that still doesn't mean WWE won't be swimming in more money then ever.

No matter how shitty a company is, if they are making a profit of $200+ million a year, they aren't going anywhere.

[GD]

Totally missed the show. The clips look amazing.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Lol no, WWE is set to make 3.8 times more money from tv deals for 5 years. Nobody seems to factor that in to anything.

Nothing AEW does will change that.

WWE is losing attendance and sales in merchandise as well as weekly tv viewers. They're not unstoppable nor are they immune to attrition. Clearly. AEW just produced an excellent ppv, got a prime time deal on an excellent network, and is creating buzz for themselves. Of course they're not going to overthrow WWE. But if tonight proved anything, it's that they can deliver a compelling, competitive product with all the production value and shine that the wwe can.

[Fignuts]

More than omega and Moxley, I’m really interested to see how Dustin works with the Young Bucks.

[erickman]

I wonder what wwe is going to do with deans wife you know they will put her in some dumbass angle, they will do with her what they did with the revival

[Emperor Smeat]

Just finished watching the 1st half of the show I missed earlier.

Battle Royale was very entertaining. Yikes at Janela getting a lit cigarette stapled to his head. Wonder who was meant to be the original final surprise and winner had the Page-PAC match not been canned.

Kip vs Sammy match was pretty good overall.

:lol: at the jab thrown at Vince and WWE's habit to inflate their crowd numbers.

SCU vs. Strong Hearts was really great.

Based on the little I've seen of her, Kylie Rae does a better Bayley than Bayley herself. Awesome Kong as the surprise addition was great. Women's 4-way match was good.

Best Friends vs. Angelico/Evans was great. Had to look up who were the guys who did the post-match beating since I don't remember if I ever saw them before.

Overall, its been a pretty entertaining show soo far. Alex Marvez's commentary has been the worst thing about it although not sure if its due to a lack of experience calling wrestling, he's way too nervous, or both.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Kylie Rae is fucking annoying. Her “Smiley” shtick comes off as less authentic than a WWE character, and she acts more stupid and naive than Bayley, and that’s saying something. She might have talent there, but the act is AWFUL.

[Simple Fan]

He's like a knock off Ranallo I feel. Marvez is easly the worst part of the commentary team, really like Excalibur though.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol @ Ambrose and Omega. Either Dean does the job right out of the gate, or AEW books Omega to lose 2 in a row. It will be a fun match but they better be careful with wins and losses mattering.

But we can’t book Omega to lose. Oh well, go Jericho and Moxley will be fine.

Also, if Renee played dumb with WWE about Mox she is gonna be in the doghouse for sure.

They knew he was going to AEW. That being said, they might still fuck with her, because it’s WWE.

Lol no, WWE is set to make 3.8 times more money from tv deals for 5 years. Nobody seems to factor that in to anything.

Nothing AEW does will change that.

Everyone factors that in. And that’s the only reason WWE are making money, and why someone devaluing WWE TV is awful for them.

The Triple H thing was fucking fine, by the way. Weird to see so many people complain about it and blow the rest of the show. AEW have fans because they are “other.” Taking a jab at the empire when you have an analogue like that is fine.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I can tell Marvez and Excalibur apart via content, but neither impressed me too much. Neither bothered me though, and at least they are human. Marvez should host a post-game podcast or something. He’s got value, but it may not be at the booth.

[#1-norm-fan]

Battle royal was fun. MJF is a heat machine. The comedy shit has got to go, though.

[#1-norm-fan]

Though I will say that Hangman throwing MJF out to win was a crazy predictable finish as soon as Hangman came out. Didn’t help that the awkward announcer reminded us MJF was still in the match when we were clearly supposed to forget about him. And the direction was really bad. There were like 3 big spots where the camera inexplicably cut away RIGHT at the moment of impact. It was weird.

From the sounds of it, the rest of the show was stellar. Hopefully the technical kinks get worked out I’ll check out at least the Rhodes match and the main event tomorrow. Not a fan of Hangman Page as a main event guy though. They need to put in some serious work in making him a star in the handful of shows between now and the TNT debut or just give the title to Jericho and start his journey with a strong showing in defeat.

[xrodmuc316]

WWE is losing attendance and sales in merchandise as well as weekly tv viewers. They're not unstoppable nor are they immune to attrition. Clearly. AEW just produced an excellent ppv, got a prime time deal on an excellent network, and is creating buzz for themselves. Of course they're not going to overthrow WWE. But if tonight proved anything, it's that they can deliver a compelling, competitive product with all the production value and shine that the wwe can.

AEW put on a great show, WWE produces at least 6 great PPVs a year.
AEW got a no rights paid deal on a cable channel.
WWE got a $1 billion paid rights deal on a network.

This is not trying to bash AEW whatsoever, but WWE doesn't just go away because another wrestling company has a great show. The whole narrative is foolish.

WWE attendance was down by like $4 million the 1st quarter compared to the first quarter in 2018. They also ran 9 less shows, and has zero international shows in the first quarter of 2019.

For perspective, their new tv deal will add an additional $75 million to their quarterly income.

Even if WWE attendance went down an additional 75%, from $26 million to $6.5 million, they STILL will make $55.5 million more per quarter once the new TV contracts kick in.

Point is they are going to be making so much money that AEW having good shows every few months is almost inconsequential to WWE.

It is great for AEW and us wrestling fans, but that is not the debate point.

[#1-norm-fan]

WWE produces at least 6 great PPVs a year.

Where in the fuck are these gems hiding???

[Fignuts]

Excalibur and JR work pretty good together. Other guy sounds like he's calling Golf. Get him the fuck out of there.

[Fignuts]

OBLIGATORY FIGNUTS WRESTLING WEABOO POST:

I rewatched Yuji Nagata vs Kensuke Sasaki a little while back so the blood in the Rhodes match didn't bother me much.

[Mr. Nerfect]

WWE PPVs are bland as fuck. Also, those TV deals are not guaranteed to last forever. I’m not sure I would pay WWE rights fees if I could get AEW for production costs (which is a lot of money, mind you). What leverage is WWE going to have next negotiating cycle? That has always been the threat of AEW. If they’re putting out a better quality product for less money, maybe possibly with more people watching it when it does start on TV (seriously, why wouldn’t every wrestling fan at least check this out?), there’s no reason to value WWE programming that highly.

[Fignuts]

It would still take quite a bit of time for WWE to be in trouble directly because of AEW's success. It's not gonna happen overnight. And one would think that if signs popped up that they were starting to get in trouble they wouldn't just sit there and keep churning out the same product.

Then again, they're holding Luke Harper and Fandango hostage while letting Dean Ambrose go staright to AEW and that seems really fucking dumb on their end, so who knows.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nah, it’s not going to be overnight, but once the safety net is gone, I don’t know how anyone can be sure that they won’t fall. They’ve been trying to be good for years. I don’t think they know how anymore, nor do I see a clear route for them earning back/new fans.

[Fignuts]

Have they been trying though? I don't think they've been as concerned with the quality as much as they have been with pleasing sponsors and investors.

[slik]

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[Mr. Nerfect]

That interest in pleasing sponsors and investors is not going to go away though. And yeah, they have been trying. Look at these attempts at ratings fixes. I mean, quality has not been the concern as much as volume, but you can see that when they do try it's handicapped by their own circumstances.

[Fignuts]

That's why I don't even get that mad or upset at stuff in WWE anymore. They went full "souless corporation" a long time ago, and the product they've been putting out typically comes with the territory.

"It is what it is" is the attitude I have towards WWE. I subscribe to the network for takeovers, Rumble, and mania, and I just let it run out otherwise.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Small complaint, but I don't like the ref shirts. Something looks awkward about them.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That's why I don't even get that mad or upset at stuff in WWE anymore. They went full "souless corporation" a long time ago, and the product they've been putting out typically comes with the territory.

"It is what it is" is the attitude I have towards WWE. I subscribe to the network for takeovers, Rumble, and mania, and I just let it run out otherwise.

Yeah, I've got a general disgust in them and love mocking their attempts at content, but it sold its soul ages ago.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Picking up where I left off. The women's four-way is really bad. Every referee seems like they're being billed as the senior official. It was Rick Knox in the first match, now this guy in this match.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Not entirely sure why they make such a big deal out of Britt Baker being a dentist.

[Emperor Smeat]

Just fnished watching everything else prior to Jericho-Omega.

No wonder WWE is suddenly interested in Gatoh Move, AEW had 2 people from there for their 6-women tag match. Aja Kong busted out a really brutal looking Saito suplex to Riho. :lol: at the bell keeper botch. Whole match was amazing and easily match of the night soo far.

:lol: at the Triple H jabs during Cody's entrance and makes sense as payback for H's AEW diss at WWE's Hall of Fame ceremony. Holy shit at Dustin Rhodes' crimson mask. Not sure what looked more of a crazy mess, Dustin being drenched in blood or Cody being drenched in his bro's blood. Cody vs Dustin was really great overall and arguably Cody's best ever singles match.

AEW getting Bret Hart for their championship belt reveal was cool. Also way better job than Foley with the 24/7 belt since Bret didn't botch hyping up the belt nor its reveal. MJF was amazing in this segment.

Lucha Bros vs Young Bucks was amazing. Tonight was a fantastic showcase for tag wrestling since that is one thing the Bucks said they want to be a strong point for AEW and help make them feel different than WWE.

Between all of that and the main event plus Ambrose/Moxley surprise, Double or Nothing is a very strong contender for show of the year. JR was pretty good and commentary overall was night and day compared to WWE with the lack of constant bickering and actually sounding genuine for enthusiasm.

[Emperor Smeat]

It would still take quite a bit of time for WWE to be in trouble directly because of AEW's success. It's not gonna happen overnight. And one would think that if signs popped up that they were starting to get in trouble they wouldn't just sit there and keep churning out the same product.

Then again, they're holding Luke Harper and Fandango hostage while letting Dean Ambrose go staright to AEW and that seems really fucking dumb on their end, so who knows.

Probably need at least 2 years of building and momentum to even start to become any sort of legit threat to WWE.

Took NXT roughly the same amount of time to build up into the powerhouse its been for WWE. Its aso why NXT UK feels flat by comparisons since they rushed into their first big Takeover show and don't really take advantage of the British style of wrestling.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Picking up where I left off:

* Was looking forward to seeing Jack Evans and Angelico, but man they looked like dicks coming out.

* Lots of fluro in this match. Visually very striking, but they look like they should be on the same side.

* Chuck Taylor does everything in autopilot.

* I appreciate the effort from Evans. You can tell he's the most special guy in there. Beretta has got something too.

* Lol, wtf are with these Ascension looking wankers showing up?

* This looks like gay group sex porn gone terribly wrong.

* There's literally a dude on the left waving his arms around and putting them on the other guys. JR is asking questions and the crowd is asking questions, but no one gave any answers. That was fucking atrocious.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nice video for All Out.

[dronepool]

What a great PPV.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Was really looking forward to the joshi tag.

* I'm glad they got Aja Kong, but she's obviously not as nimble as she used to be. Still has presence like a champ.

* Hikaru Shida comes off as a star.

* Riho is impressive.

* Sakazaki plays into her gimmick well. She actually seems like she's supposed to be a bit wormy.

* Really awkward stuff with the girls just standing around in the corner waiting for stuff to happen.

* Like Ryo more and more as the match goes on.

* Bit ridiculous there is a "This is wrestling" chant during this match.

* The hardcore spots in this match make no sense. Why can't the referee hear that?

* Love Aubrey Edwards sticking to her count and holding that two to get things back on track. Good stuff. One of my favorite reffing moments in a long time.

[Mr. Nerfect]

So far, SCU vs. Strong Hearts is probably the best match in terms of technical stuff, but the joshi stuff was refreshingly different, if not the best possible outing you could expect from the women. Now onto Cody vs. Dustin:

* Lol, Cody destroying the WWE symbols and what they represent is awesome. Fuck you all.

* Like Cody's color scheme. It's bright. Makes him look interesting.

* Very interesting to see Dustin playing babyface. Makes sense, truthfully.

* Love the crimson mask completing Dustin's look.

* Okay, Alex Marvez is horrible. Have him host an AEW podcast or do some sort of panel/hype work.

* Jesus Christ! That blood gushing!

* I hate the chants, but the crowd giving this a standing O is cool.

* Lol, genuine reactions from crowds. Take note, Kevin Dunn.

* What an emotional moment between Cody and Dustin. Great stuff. Really got people too. Got me. I think Cody & Dustin vs. The Young Bucks has to be the main event of that Fight for the Fallen show.

[Sixx]

Best Friends is such a lame name for a tag team.

Wouldn't be gayer if they were called Faggots.

[Mr. Nerfect]

MJF is so much better than The Miz.

[Evil Vito]

Cody gets to have sex with Brandi on a regular basis.

Lucky son of a bitch.

[Droford]

What an incredible show. Can't wait for the next one

My only question is will it be $50 again. Its not the All Out show in August which I can see them being able to build hype for to justify.

[Mr. Nerfect]

* Love JR calling shots in the booth.

* Young Bucks coming out like stars.

* Great introduction for this match. Love the touch of Rick Knox saying something.

* God, The Young Bucks calling out that shit during the match. I forgot about that shit.

* Not sure I buy the ring rust story they're telling, but like matches where the Bucks sell an injury, I appreciate the effort.

* Great to hear a crowd that gets caught up in the moments, as opposed to waiting for them to wake up.

* JR really hitting the button of tag team wrestling being significant in AEW.

* Excalibur really thriving in these main events. He reminds me of Mauro Ranallo.

* Fuck me, can Rey Fenix fucking fly.

* Fun match. Finish came out of nowhere though, because everything and anything gets kicked out, then you just get the end. They built emotion during that match though.

* I kind of think they shouldn't show recaps of those sorts of matches. The highlights are the story, so it kind of reduces the emotional impact to see the reel.

[ClockShot]

Price scared me away overall. So, I ended up not buying.

Buzzed through the results on the main page and the last couple pages of posts here, sounds like I missed a hell of a show.

Droford's post above has an interesting point. Once they get the final numbers in from all the streaming and PPV buys, will the next show be the same price? Or will they change up the pricing again?

[Droford]

This is my only big complaint. Always bugged me when TNA would bring up WWE stuff on their shows. I'd rather a company, especially a brand new one, focus on their own product.

Im glad Im not the only one that hated it. I figured everyone would be "fuck the WWE"

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's been on par with a Takeover with some goofy shit underneath, but it's good to see the more substantial stuff be given primary focus.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Im glad Im not the only one that hated it. I figured everyone would be "fuck the WWE"

It was the best thing on the show up until that point. It's not the same as the shit TNA or WCW used to do. It was a symbol to set themselves apart and move them into main event territory.

[Droford]

Price scared me away overall. So, I ended up not buying.

Buzzed through the results on the main page and the last couple pages of posts here, sounds like I missed a hell of a show.

Droford's post above has an interesting point. Once they get the final numbers in from all the streaming and PPV buys, will the next show be the same price? Or will they change up the pricing again?

FFtF is the amphitheater show it'll have a different feel to it but they already started building towards it with the Cody/Dustin angle. Its basically 7 weeks away which is 7 weeks from All Out. If they do a PPV every 7-8 weeks thats not bad, but it'll be hard to sell Fight for the Fallen in 7 weeks with All Out and (I assume) the Jericho/Page title match and Moxley/Omega probably being on All Out 7 weeks later.

[Bad News Gertner]

It's too bad they can't ride this momentum into their t.v deal.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm finding it hard to pay attention at this point.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It's too bad they can't ride this momentum into their t.v deal.

Yeah, a lot of the matches have included stuff that would actually be really good playing out on TV. Lots of tension and teases for different directions.

[Droford]

It's too bad they can't ride this momentum into their t.v deal.

I think All Out will be a huge show. Omega/Moxley and Jericho/Page Title match almost ensures it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Feel like they could get away with spreading out their main event-level stuff a lot more. I can understand why they swung for the fence with Double or Nothing, but Fight for the Fallen doesn't need to have too many exhausting matches.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That All Out card is looking pretty heavyweight. And letting those things stew for 14 weeks is a good way to get people hyped.

[Evil Vito]

Can’t wait for WWE to counter this with a barnburner Lashley/Corbin tag match on Raw

[Fignuts]

Feel like they could get away with spreading out their main event-level stuff a lot more. I can understand why they swung for the fence with Double or Nothing, but Fight for the Fallen doesn't need to have too many exhausting matches.

Personally feel that's a big part of what makes wwe's longer PPV events drag so much. The pacing of the card is all over the place. I prefer the NJPW style of building up to the longer main event matches.

[Evil Vito]

Apparently Dustin went into last night assuming it was his retirement match and he planned on leaving his boots in the ring after. Cody's comments after the match and invitation to face the Bucks were a surprise to him.

[Splaya]

Vince better realize what's going on. He is in bad shape. AEW did in one night what WWE has failed to do in the past 2-3 years: create meaningful storylines. Doesn't matter in my eyes that they are a fresh company or not. Everything that happened last night had a purpose.

While I wanted them to stay away from anything WWE, Cody destroying the throne served it's purpose. It's an iconic moment that will be a foundation for this company for years to come.

While I thoroughly enjoyed the first few matches, the three "main-event matches" plus the title showing were the things that really sold me on this company.

I'm digging MJF. Guy looks and acts like the Miz but he might be better than the Miz. His arrogance is just outstanding. While it was painful to watch Bret Hart get in and out of the ring, that was a major name to show that first world title for AEW. Major props to them for getting him.

Dustin versus Cody was just AMAZING. I loved how Brandi got involved. Earl Hebner was the right guy to referee that. While I was legit wondering if Dustin was going to pass out from blood loss, there were so many moments in that match. When he turned the figure four into pain for Cody, it reminded me of Austin/Bret when Austin was in the sharpshooter and blood was streaming down his face. There's some poetic justice in that though. Austin was in pain but he was in the move. Dustin had reversed the submission hold so while he was fighting through the pain with blood dripping out of him, he actually was using the move to his advantage. Loved the ending how Dustin and Cody will team up for Fight for the Fallen.
The part that literally stuns me about this was how Vince and Hunter did not think this match would sell. They did ONE PROMO about it and had this match. Blood added to the overall standing of the match, but man did those two put on one hell of a show.

Bucks versus Lucha

I've watched tag team wrestling in NXT and walked away feeling impressed. Back when the Bucks, Cody, and Omega turned down WWE, I thought they were fools. I retract that statement 1000%. While Cody and Omega looked good tonight, the Bucks looked like the best tag team on the planet. I have no doubt when it's all said and done, they will be the greatest tag team of all time. I loved the story telling of this match. The Bucks missing spots added so much to the match. The crispness of the Lucha Bros. The near falls. The moves to the outside. The ONLY thing that concerns me is that this is the STANDARD for what they want in this company.

Jericho versus Omega. Great storytelling. While Jericho is not in the best shape of his life, that guy told one hell of a story last night. His finishing the match with the Judas elbow was so sudden that it actually had me pop for it. Jericho cutting the promo at the end made me think that Page was coming back out which was going to make me cringe because it would be so WWE...

But Moxley...the way they had him come in, hit dirty deeds against everyone, and close the show standing tall...they instantly erased everything WWE had done with him in the past year. And if they just let him be an absolute psycho like we know he can be, he will be one of the faces of AEW and his run with the Shield won't mean shit when it's all said and done.

I could not be more excited for their next two events. A friend and I will be online trying to get tickets for All In 2 since we live in Detroit and we could go over to Chicago very easily. The product won't grow stale because you know there will be angles shot for youtube and such.

It's hard to say and believe it, but this show made me love wrestling again last night. WWE has become so stale.

[Jordan]

I'm so happy that everyone loved the show. I'm still buzzing from it. I'm just happy. It reminded me of the best of everything, the best of WCW, Lucha Underground, New Japan, ROH... just the best of everything all put on one show.

[The MAC]

From the little that I saw it felt above TNA but not on WWE standards. They need to stop with the WWE references- it reeks of insecurity.

[Jordan]

From the little that I saw it felt above TNA but not on WWE standards. They need to stop with the WWE references- it reeks of insecurity.

I didn't feel any TNA from AEW... The references at the beginning made me laugh, the throne breaking works only if you watched Game of Thrones.

[Splaya]

From the little that I saw it felt above TNA but not on WWE standards. They need to stop with the WWE references- it reeks of insecurity.

This is what's wrong with wrestling. You base it off of reading results ( or lack thereof because I've not seen one site bash what happened) and watching 10 minutes of it (you probably watched what happened before the Dustin/Cody match with Cody destroying the throne).

Sit through the entire PPV and if you feel the same way, then it is what it is. But making a comment that you watched a little and it's above TNA and below WWE is so incredibly short-sighted.