AEW ALL OUT - 8.31.19 ***OFFICIAL THREAD***

[Sepholio]

Is that it? I haven't looked at the card

ladder tag match and page/Jericho for the title still

[Sepholio]

CMON LUCCCCHHHHAAAA

[Emperor Smeat]

Considering what happened in the PAC/Omega match, someone is going to fly into the crowd if anyone does a ladder spot to the outside.

My bet is Fenix does it at least twice in this match.

[slik]

Why do people dislike JR?

I think JR has been great tonight, he's very entertaining

[xrodmuc316]

I hope one of the Bucks breaks a limb tonight. Penta is awesome!

[rez]

I've got big balls, do you?

You should masturbate or sex more

[rez]

Why do people dislike JR?

I think JR has been great tonight, he's very entertaining

I think he's did pretty well. I hope Tony comes in sometimes to do commentary with him. Dream

[GD]

You should masturbate or sex more

I guess you didn't see the pre-match promo.

[rez]

Mike Tenay, Tony, and JR would be the ultimate team

[GD]

lol Pentagon putting himself through the table.

[rez]

AEW! AEW!

[Emperor Smeat]

:lol: at Fenix taking out Pentagon with his flip to the outside. Sure he took out one of the Bucks as well but also gave the other Buck a prime opportunity to nab the AAA tag belts.

[Sepholio]

Why do people dislike JR?

I think JR has been great tonight, he's very entertaining

His other work in AEW has been fine...he's been rough tonight man. I can't remember him having a worse performance tbh.

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: at the Destroyer from the ladder to table spot.

[GD]

His other work in AEW has been fine...he's been rough tonight man. I can't remember him having a worse performance tbh.

Couldn't agree more. He needs to take the backseat.

[GD]

:eek: at the Destroyer from the ladder to table spot.

That was wild!

[Triple A]

this is crazy

[Triple A]

Canadian Destroyer spot was insane

[Sepholio]

holy shit charges need to be filed after that move

[Triple A]

damn @ how they have the energy to do all of these insane spots one after the other

[Emperor Smeat]

Going by this match soo far, neither the Bucks nor the Lucha Bros care about the well being of their own brothers. 2nd time that one Young Buck could have saved the other and vice versa with the Lucha Bros but instead let their other brother get destroyed.

[slik]

OUCH at that landing

[Emperor Smeat]

Ouch at Nick Jackson's awkward fall through the tables.

Ladder match has been really great soo far.

[GD]

How do you learn to fall off a 20 foot ladder?

[GD]

Holy shit @ the unmasking of Pentagon Jr.

[slik]

Good tag match

[Evil Vito]

Crazy shit in that match

[Sepholio]

omg

[GD]

Ouch at Nick Jackson's awkward fall through the tables.

Ladder match has been really great soo far.

I hope there's some buffer in between. There's no way the main event can follow this.

[Emperor Smeat]

Ladder match was great.

Young Bucks must have had a death wish with all the crazy ladder spots at the end.

[Evil Vito]

LAX!

[Emperor Smeat]

:eek: Bill Clinton and JFK attacking the Young Bucks ... nevermind it was LAX.

Them signing with AEW instead of WWE is great. AEW's tag division gets even more better.

[GD]

LAX baby!

[Jordan]

One of the craziest ladder matches I've seen.

[Evil Vito]

Safe to say LAX will be Jericho's tag partners for the debut TNT episode.

[GD]

Follow that!

[xrodmuc316]

Did I hear the announcers call them the Puerto Rican Exchange? PRX??? Lol

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm jumping into the second half. Tuned in and saw Jimmy Havoc and Darby Allin being shit.

[Triple A]

insane match

holy shit @ nick almost killing himself falling off the ladder

[Mr. Nerfect]

Hahaha, Allin just jumped backwards off the top rope with a barrel and ate shit on the stairs. Alex Marvez is still on commentary and basically gave away that everyone works the same -- "those stairs have gotten a lot of play today."

[rez]

Glad AEW isn't just booking the people in charge to win. Best wrestling ever

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, JR is like "Havoc's holding it!"

[Emperor Smeat]

Hopefully no pyro goes off while Page rides his horse to the ring or else that horse might fling him a few rows into the crowd.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They're just showing the crowd. Lots of dead air here.

[Triple A]

don't like Jericho's theme, which seems to be sung by himself

[Emperor Smeat]

Did I hear the announcers call them the Puerto Rican Exchange? PRX??? Lol

Supposedly Impact owns the LAX name which makes sense since different guys were in the original LAX.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Crowd does not give a shit about The Dark Order.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, The Dark Order is embarrassing. The sort of thing that you hope people don't catch you watching.

[Triple A]

weird ass body shape Jericho has... looks fat but has an eight pack somehow...

[Emperor Smeat]

don't like Jericho's theme, which seems to be sung by himself

He does since its from his actual song with Fozzy.

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[Mr. Nerfect]

Best Friends isn't much better.

[Mr. Nerfect]

They keep telling people they are pushing tag team wrestling, but they should actually show it.

[GD]

It’s that referee who cried during D Bry’s retirement speech.

[xrodmuc316]

If Chris Jericho weighs 225 pounds then Bobby Lashley weighs about 460.

[Droford]

I think Im going to try to go to Full Gear AND the first TNT show.

[Evil Vito]

Let's gooooooooooooooo!

[Mr. Nerfect]

Evil Uno looks fucking shit.

[slik]

Love that Aubrey is the ref, she is good

[GD]

weird ass body shape Jericho has... looks fat but has an eight pack somehow...

Vodka

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lots of giving spots away in this match. Crowd clearly does not give a shit.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Thinking about skipping to shit I actually care about, but I kind of want to experience this like someone tuning in randomly and just having to stick with it.

[Mr. Nerfect]

JR working hard to try and polish this turd up.

[GD]

Thinking about skipping to shit I actually care about, but I kind of want to experience this like someone tuning in randomly and just having to stick with it.

Fuck off so the rest of us can chill and watch

[Triple A]

hangmen page

[xrodmuc316]

"Jericho is in the best shape he has been in years" ~ J.R.

Wow lol

[Mr. Nerfect]

The Dark Order are AEW's Ascension.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Go sniff some hair, Guru Dave.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Chuck Taylor doesn't look like he's even trying.

[xrodmuc316]

weird ass body shape Jericho has... looks fat but has an eight pack somehow...

He's got that weird chest dent too, where the inside of his pec muscles are just gone. Not as bad as Kofi Kingston, but still weird.

[Mr. Nerfect]

"The match continues" - JR.

It sure does, JR. It sure does.

[slik]

This match is building like Page is winning it

[slik]

I feel like Page and Cena would work well together

[Triple A]

crowd doesn't seem to care about Page (neither do I tbh)

[Triple A]

hopefully Jericho wins, Page doesn't seem "ready" to be the champ yet

[Evil Vito]

Page's family being there in the front row makes me think he's winning.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why is AEW referee Aubrey Edwards jerking her head and body every time Jericho or Page hits one another? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWAllOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWAllOut</a></p>&mdash; Brad Shepard of ProSportsExtra.com (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1168004633421176832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Triple A]

wish WALTER was in AEW

[Emperor Smeat]

Like the Last Man Standing match at NXT UK TakeOver: Cardiff, Page vs. Jericho has been better than I was expecting soo far.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Really excited to see Riho vs. Hikaru Shida.

[slik]

Pacing starting to get weird

[Mr. Nerfect]

Nyla Rose is getting a Women's Title shot before she wrestles a one-on-one match in the company.

[Evil Vito]

For what it's worth, WWE always seems to have loved ones front row when someone is scheduled to win the big one. They just don't usually show the family so as to not make it a giveaway. But like at Takeover 25, everyone sitting around me noticed Britt Baker was sitting front row center which felt like an unintentional tip off of a Cole win.

But AEW actually pointed out Page's family being there so who knows.

[Emperor Smeat]

Page is lucky he didn't blow out his knee with that moonsault to the outside.

[Mr. Nerfect]

The actual Women's Championship belt is pretty.

[Emperor Smeat]

For what it's worth, WWE always seems to have loved ones front row when someone is scheduled to win the big one. They just don't usually show the family so as to not make it a giveaway. But like at Takeover 25, everyone sitting around me noticed Britt Baker was sitting front row center which felt like an unintentional tip off of a Cole win.

But AEW actually pointed out Page's family being there so who knows.

Jericho winning and taunting Page's family would be an amazing way to close out the show. Also adds more fuel to their feud if they decide to continue it down the road.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Women's wrestling is another thing that AEW pimps as being emphasized, but there's no difference between this match and a WWE match.

[Evil Vito]

Jericho was the right call

[Mr. Nerfect]

This match is losing the crowd. Reminds me of Emma vs. Asuka.

[Evil Vito]

In b4 WWE fanboys laugh about a near 50 year old WWE guy being the first AEW champ

[Triple A]

The right man def won

[Emperor Smeat]

Page vs Jericho was pretty good overall. Ladder match should have gone last but makes sense why they stuck with this match instead due to significance of crowing the first ever AEW champ.

All Out was great overall.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Aubrey does need to chill on the dramatics a bit <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWAllOut?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWAllOut</a> <a href="https://t.co/v2w7N5i1Yk">pic.twitter.com/v2w7N5i1Yk</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1168008337419571200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Evil Vito]

Very good show. Not quite as good as Double or Nothing, but still extremely watchable and worth the money.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lots of "misjudgements" on this show. They've got their match in mind and they go out there and do the match they had planned, regardless of whether or not it gets over.

[Mr. Nerfect]

There's no way with three disappointing matches in a row that this is better than any Takeover I've seen.

[xrodmuc316]

I said it already today, but Jericho was the only choice.

He is the biggest name they have, his character can the with anybody, and Page just isn't a top guy yet. In the pecking order, he is like the 5th or 6th best guy they have.

This was a good show, but it didn't feel as big as Double or Nothing to me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Did they bother to explain why Shida and Riho are having a singles match for a title shot and why the other women were in a Battle Royal?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Riho's offense looks soft.

[rez]

Very good PPV. I'm sad I didn't pay fo...Vito paid!

It def had to have Jericho win the title to make it legit.

[Triple A]

Did they bother to explain why Shida and Riho are having a singles match for a title shot and why the other women were in a Battle Royal?

was also wondering this

[Mr. Nerfect]

Does every match need to have 8 million near falls?

[Mr. Nerfect]

AEW seem to be putting together good video packages, but you just had the announcers tell us everything that's happened. Lots of awkward filler between matches.

[rez]

Does every match need to have 8 million near falls?

Maybe. It's better than run ins

[Emperor Smeat]

Did they bother to explain why Shida and Riho are having a singles match for a title shot and why the other women were in a Battle Royal?

Don't think so but it was implied because they won their matches at previous AEW shows.

AEW's been all over the place with title related stuff due to needing things in place by the time their tv show starts but also don't have enough time available to properly do it. Also didn't help PAC backing out of the first show sort of messed up their plans for the main title.

[Triple A]

post show

Jericho currently insulting everyone backstage, calling people idiots

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[Triple A]

alex marvez hosting... talking in a low, almost whispering low energy tone...

[Triple A]

what were they thinking even considering having him be their main pbp guy... insane

[Triple A]

Pac interrupts a Hangman Page press conference, says that Page is the "real reason" he returned to AEW, then throws a water bottle at Page

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, what is this Cody entrance?

[GD]

Go sniff some hair, Guru Dave.

Good one :y:

[Mr. Nerfect]

For a guy who criticizes Triple H publicly, Cody sure loves cosplaying as him.

[Triple A]

Jericho cutting a promo backstage, celebrating with champagne and Alex Marvez's shitty voice is talking over him...

and it abruptly ends, cutting off Jericho

[rez]

eeee

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cool visual with Cody standing in the crowd.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Great brawl to start. Very WWF Attitude main event style. Which Cody said he wanted to kill heading into his match with Dustin, lol.

[Emperor Smeat]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tony Kahn reveals All Out will be in Chicago on Labor Day weekend every year</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp Of Fightful.com @ All Out (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1168011387437608963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Smart choice making it into their version of WrestleMania or Starrcade in terms of importance to the company.

AEW was unofficially born with All In and makes sense to continue celebrating its birthday with All Out going forward.

[Mr. Nerfect]

It makes sense to be in Chicago for the foreseeable future, but I'm not sure if you need to go out and say "every year" as a promise.

[slik]

yeah because the crowning of the world champ shouldn't close the show when you have tag belts from another promotion in a match?

Does he think much before he tweets these days...this is as weird as his tweet the other day about no one getting out of their seat in the movie theatre and clapping when Roman was onscreen during Hobbes & Shaw


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unless these guys pull off one of the best matches of Jerich's career and the best of Page's, the ladder match should have been put on last.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1167999413572132871?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[rez]

TIME TO WATCH

Bill & Ted Bogus Journey

[GD]

yeah because the crowning of the world champ shouldn't close the show when you have tag belts from another promotion in a match?

Does he think much before he tweets these days...this is as weird as his tweet the other day about no one getting out of their seat in the movie theatre and clapping when Roman was onscreen during Hobbes & Shaw


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unless these guys pull off one of the best matches of Jerich's career and the best of Page's, the ladder match should have been put on last.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1167999413572132871?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

On point.

[Mr. Nerfect]

yeah because the crowning of the world champ shouldn't close the show when you have tag belts from another promotion in a match?

Does he think much before he tweets these days...this is as weird as his tweet the other day about no one getting out of their seat in the movie theatre and clapping when Roman was onscreen during Hobbes & Shaw


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unless these guys pull off one of the best matches of Jerich's career and the best of Page's, the ladder match should have been put on last.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1167999413572132871?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ideally your shows should build. You end with the most emotional match. If Jericho vs. Page is going to bring people down, then he's absolutely right.

[Mr. Nerfect]

MJF is awesome at being MJF even in the babyface corner.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Earl Hebner is a comically bad ref.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Arn Anderson is the best worker on the show.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Lol, did Tully Blanchard just walk out for no reason?

[Mr. Nerfect]

Cody is turning into quite the smart worker. If he were anyone else, Shawn Spears would have kicked out of like five finishers after everything peaked.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I'm tapping out of the Ladder Match. I don't care about The Young Bucks at all.

[Vastardikai]

Arn Anderson is the best worker on the show.

That's kind of a given.

[slik]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I have more questions about this than anything Punk related quite frankly <a href="https://t.co/qM8k993zT4">pic.twitter.com/qM8k993zT4</a></p>&mdash; jarethteen dream (@JarethOMMB) <a href="https://twitter.com/JarethOMMB/status/1167845619085520897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Triple A]

hmm

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I asked Tony Khan about Kylie Rae's status. He told me she asked for her AEW release and they granted it. It was amicable, per Tony</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp Of Fightful.com @ All Out (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1168022045655019520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Droford]

yeah because the crowning of the world champ shouldn't close the show when you have tag belts from another promotion in a match?

Does he think much before he tweets these days...this is as weird as his tweet the other day about no one getting out of their seat in the movie theatre and clapping when Roman was onscreen during Hobbes & Shaw


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Unless these guys pull off one of the best matches of Jerich's career and the best of Page's, the ladder match should have been put on last.</p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1167999413572132871?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


I'll at least say this: whatever the title match is that comes out as the result of the tournament can't be as good as the ladder match tonight even if it ends up being Luchas vs Bucks again (which I doubt but who knows)

[Droford]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tony Kahn reveals All Out will be in Chicago on Labor Day weekend every year</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp Of Fightful.com @ All Out (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1168011387437608963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Smart choice making it into their version of WrestleMania or Starrcade in terms of importance to the company.

AEW was unofficially born with All In and makes sense to continue celebrating its birthday with All Out going forward.

I was hoping they'd keep changing the name every year and it could be a train themed show "All Aboard" next year

[Volare]

I'm sad about Kylie.

[Simple Fan]

Hell of a show. Place exploded for the Arn spinebuster.

[slik]

That is interesting, she was so heavily promoted when they started up

[slik]

Hope she is ok

[Mr. Nerfect]

I've heard she's been battling some mental health stuff. That is never good, and you hate to see someone tap out. That being said, her gimmick won't be missed.

[Emperor Smeat]

hmm

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I asked Tony Khan about Kylie Rae's status. He told me she asked for her AEW release and they granted it. It was amicable, per Tony</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp Of Fightful.com @ All Out (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1168022045655019520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Guess that might confirm the recent rumor she's done with wrestling in general. Whatever she was dealing with was enough for her to call it quits in the end.

[Jordan]

Oh man what a great show! Listening to Dave and Jim Valley review, they were there live. I want to watch the CRACKER BARREL CLASH again lol.

[Jordan]

They really need to sign Tessa Blanchard.

[Innovator]

Something seems off about the Kylie Rae thing.

[Evil Vito]

The speculation is that Kylie has retired due to a neck injury, some are pointing to the deadlift German suplex at Double or Nothing.

[Innovator]

Yeah I get the story, still seems off

[xrodmuc316]

They really need to sign Tessa Blanchard.

If they sign Eva Marie, I guarantee I'll watch every show :drool:

[Jordan]

Battle Royale - ** 1/2

Entertaining. Teal Piper was the only horrible thing about the match. I enjoyed it.

Private Party/Anjelico & Evans - *** 1/2

Really fun, amazing moves from both teams. Evans and Angelico stood out but not above Private Party, they rock.

SCU/A Small Boy and A Boy and his Dinosaur - *** 1/2

Fun opener with some really hot spots for Jungle Boy and Luchasarus.

Omega/Pac - **** 1/2

Really great match. Nice to get this style again from Kenny which we wouldn't have gotten with Mox. Pac comes off a star, Kenny is a star, great result here with Pac going over.

Cracker Barrel Clash - ****

This was fucking awesome and so much fun. I really enjoy a good hardcore match like this on a long PPV. Nice to give Rave a victory, he has a lot of potential.

Dark Order/Best Friends - **

Solid work but The Dark Order gimmick is fucking lame, sorry it just doesn't work for me. There is something there but overall it hasn't been an impact yet so I'd say overhaul it somehow.

Riho/The Thick One - ***

This was good stuff, good surprise outcome.

Cody/Spears - ****

Great storytelling "Cody" match. Cody is officially my favorite wrestler now btw. I may change my avatar to some king of SMOKE AND MIRRORS theme.

Bucks/Bro's Ladder War - *****

Yeah I can't quite say for sure but this was one of the craziest and best ladder matches of all times. I love The Young Bucks. They are stars in a way I've never seen a tag team. They are as main event as The Rock 'n Roll Express ever were.

Jericho/Page (just saw that I never rated this match) *** 3/4

Looking back I'd have this match go on before the ladder match. But regardless, they had a really good match. It's just that it was a long show, a long match, and also I didn't care about Page and the whole booking of the first championship felt rushed to me. The fact that Page won this shot from a really horrible gimmick battle royale affects the rating as well as there was no true claim for Page to be champion other than "Khan want's Page to be a big superstar". This match actually did a lot more for Jericho than Page, not that that's a bad thing. We tend to criticize those around the age of 50 who still step into the ring and that's fine, but for the lapsed fan and new fans this is the right call.

[Emperor Smeat]

Yeah I get the story, still seems off

There was also a rumor of her dealing with a stalker although not sure if it was just the person constantly stalking her online or also in real life.

[Fignuts]

Ideally your shows should build. You end with the most emotional match. If Jericho vs. Page is going to bring people down, then he's absolutely right.

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[Emperor Smeat]

Apparently both Brandi and Tony Khan were really upset at Cody for having Pharoh walk out to the ring after he got scared from the pyro. Khan hinted that's never happening again if Cody wants both pyro and his dog for an entrance routine.

Kahn also had a legit concern with Page's horse when it came to the use of pyro. They made sure the horse was out of the building when pyro had to be used.

[Volare]

They care all around. Good image.

[xrodmuc316]

The speculation is that Kylie has retired due to a neck injury, some are pointing to the deadlift German suplex at Double or Nothing.

"We are going to treat our wrestlers better here in AEW"

Wrestler gets injured at their show

"RELEASE HER!!!"


Way to go AEW lol

[Fignuts]

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[Damian Rey 2.0]

Watched this today with my buddy as our schedules tied us up yesterday.

A lot has already been said all I'll go with my main takeaways.

Luchasauras looked like a star. Versatile moveset for a bigger guy.

Omega v Pac was stellar. Lived up to the last minute hype and Kenny losing was a surprise.

Cracker Barrel match was a lot of fun. I like Darby Allen as a natural brooding underdog and Joey Janella is entertaining enough. Not a big Jimmy Havoc guy but he has seemingly lost every time out so getting him a win was fine in an entertaining match.

Mad crush on Hikaru Shida. Riho is ok. She's going to get manhandled by Nyla Rose, and I think that's why they're putting her in that match. Women's belt is gorgeous.

Side Note: don't think I've heard the announcers once mention anything about Nyla Rose being transgender during the broadcast. Which is good. No need to play that up. My buddy said he thinks wwe would be all over that, selling how progressive they are.

Cody v Spears was great. Typical Cody match. It's not some technical masterpiece or high flying, high spot affair. Just gold, old fashioned story telling. Tully was great. Arn was an awesome surprise. Thought Spears should've gone over to help cement him as more than a good hand. Also thought this was the night MJF turned on Cody, but alas. That'll come another day. Still a good match.
Best Friends v The Dark Order was easily the most boring match on the card. Best friends are ok and the Dark Order, especially Evil Uno, look bush league as fuck. I couldn't get over that Dark Uno is just some fat guy with his pants pulled all the up under his chest as a bad ass, dangerous, intimidating guy. He's just a fat guy with flappy flaps rolling around the ring. His partner is fine, just really generic.

The ladder match of death was just that. Jesus fuck the spots. The Canadian destroyer off the ladder and thru the table was prob my fave. Second being the package spike piledriver on the outside. The bump Nick took where he clipped the ropes was brutal.

Awesome that the Lucha Bros won. Hopefully that'll be it for these 2 teams for a long while.

Jericho v Hangman was a good main event. Nothing was going to top that ladder match but this didn't need to. I liked the busted open spot, Page looked good, Jericho was in top form, and the right guy won. That Judas Effect elbow is going to generate a great pop when someone finally kicks out.

All in all I enjoyed it. It wasn't great, or groundbreaking, but it was a fun show and its marquee matches lived up to the hype.

[Jordan]

They should let Cody's story with MJF slow burn to a turn. Jericho was talking shit to Cody via twitter maybe that is the next program. Perhaps during that big match MJF causes Cody the victory. I loved how they made the corner men an angle for All Out Spears/Cody, it would be cool do that with Jericho/Cody as well. Let's say that Spear's aligns with Jericho and Jericho starts using him to do his dirty work against Cody. Jericho has Spears second him at FULL GEAR, Cody once again has a choice to make for his corner and this time goes with someone a little more experienced his big brother Dustin!

MJF is obviously slighted by the choice and costs his best friend Cody his shot at the AEW Championship.

[Simple Fan]

Agree with the slow burn on the MJF/Cody thing but I think it'd be better for Cody to turn on MJF.

[Vastardikai]

AEW has this huge gulf on the Men's Side. On the top are the established guys:
Jericho
Omega
Cody
Bucks
Lucha Brothers
Mox

Second Tier is the folks with potential upsides:
Pac (struggle to put him in the top tier)
Page
MJF
Luchasaurus
Jungle Boy

After that is the shit tier. They are either shitty wrestlers, have shit house gimmicks, or all of the above:
Everyone Else

[Droford]

They should let Cody's story with MJF slow burn to a turn. Jericho was talking shit to Cody via twitter maybe that is the next program. Perhaps during that big match MJF causes Cody the victory. I loved how they made the corner men an angle for All Out Spears/Cody, it would be cool do that with Jericho/Cody as well. Let's say that Spear's aligns with Jericho and Jericho starts using him to do his dirty work against Cody. Jericho has Spears second him at FULL GEAR, Cody once again has a choice to make for his corner and this time goes with someone a little more experienced his big brother Dustin!

MJF is obviously slighted by the choice and costs his best friend Cody his shot at the AEW Championship.

Based on character I can't see MJF being happy having to dress up in nerd Star trek gear and be Cody's lackey and be happy about it. I thought he was turning on Cody in the Spears match given they kept mentioning him and his poor timing of distracting Hebner allowing Cody to get beat up.

[Evil Vito]

Hangman Page’s horse is named Hunter Horse Helmsley

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Hahaha I hopethat's real

[#1-norm-fan]

Agree with the slow burn on the MJF/Cody thing but I think it'd be better for Cody to turn on MJF.

MJF is the best heel in the business. Why would you want Cody to betray him and make him a sympathetic babyface?

[Verbose Minch]

Just wanted to pop in and say that the weird skeleton ref woman in the main event was really distracting

[xrodmuc316]

Hangman Page’s horse is named Hunter Horse Helmsley

"We aren't competing with WWE"
Talks about WWE constantly

TNAEW Total Nonstop All Elite Wrestling :rofl:

[GD]

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6019479/TbOi9j9.0.gif

[xrodmuc316]

Just wanted to pop in and say that the weird skeleton ref woman in the main event was really distracting

Indyrific Crap. Can you imagine this company 15 years down the road trying to show highlights of their first world championship match, and that chick just ruining it with her stupid, I don't even know what to call what she was trying to do.

If this company got out of there own way, and presents wrestling like the Pac and Omega match, it would be a homerun.

[slik]

After that is the shit tier. They are either shitty wrestlers, have shit house gimmicks, or all of the above:
Everyone Else

I disagree with that.

There's a lot of indy guys we haven't seen as much of and who could also grow really well over the next year or so. Someone like a Darby Allin -- who I am already a big fan of so far and look forward to seeing more of, Sammy Guevera, Kip Sabian, etc.

[Simple Fan]

MJF is the best heel in the business. Why would you want Cody to betray him and make him a sympathetic babyface?

He wouldn't be a sympathetic babyface. It's not Cody betraying him either. Neither is actually turning and I don't think MJF needs to cost Cody something to have heat for them to have a match.

He's a dick to Cody's wife, dog, and friends eventually Cody will get sick of it and tell him off. Then MJF can unload on Cody. I just don't think MJF needs to turn on Cody to get heat.

[Verbose Minch]

Indyrific Crap. Can you imagine this company 15 years down the road trying to show highlights of their first world championship match, and that chick just ruining it with her stupid, I don't even know what to call what she was trying to do.

If this company got out of there own way, and presents wrestling like the Pac and Omega match, it would be a homerun.

No doubt. Someone pointed it out already, but that overdramatic face she was making when Jericho kicked out of the Deadeye just ruined the moment. It isn't about her, but she was trying her damndest to make it that way

[screech]

Had no problem with the ref reacting to the kickout. Seemed like she was as shocked as the crowd (and Page for that matter), didn't ruin anything for me.

[xrodmuc316]

Had no problem with the ref reacting to the kickout. Seemed like she was as shocked as the crowd (and Page for that matter), didn't ruin anything for me.

No, she was posing. Nobody reacts by striking a pose.

It also wasn't just that moment, she was doing things all match.

[screech]

That's great. She still didn't ruin anything about that match or moment for me.

[Mr. Nerfect]

I thought Aubrey Edwards did a great job at Double or Nothing. I haven't seen her at All Out. I think, in theory, she's a good choice to main event ("Look at how progressive we are"), but great referees kind of make themselves invisible unless they need to be. Emotional or not, trying to sell or not, she probably should have stuck to what made her great at DoN, which was being a bad-ass that was going to call it straight down the middle and took her job seriously.

[Simple Fan]

she probably should have stuck to what made her great at DoN, which was being a bad-ass that was going to call it straight down the middle and took her job seriously.

That's what she did at All Out. Not really sure what the problem is with her but the one piece of the match she got involved in was warranted as Jericho was testing her and she went back at him. Thought she was great during the main event and the crowd ate it up when she went off on Jericho.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Your opinion really doesn't count for much, dude. I'm going to trust the people that were irked.

[Frank Drebin]

I never noticed her. Maybe it came off different on TV.

[Damian Rey 2.0]

No idea what anyone is talking about. Didn't notice the ref at all outside of the little argument spot with Jericho.

[slik]

She was VERY over the top the whole match...everytime they hit each other she cringed, made weird faces and flung her arms around like she was the one being hit

Maybe I will get used to her


https://i.imgur.com/JktM2ab.jpg

[Damian Rey 2.0]

Honestly didn't notice her at all. It sounds dreadful. But I didn't catch it.

[Simple Fan]

Your opinion really doesn't count for much, dude. I'm going to trust the people that were irked.

Makes sense since you are always irked.

[Simple Fan]

I never noticed her. Maybe it came off different on TV.

No idea what anyone is talking about. Didn't notice the ref at all outside of the little argument spot with Jericho.

Yeah has to be nitpickers nitpicking something and the ref is the only thing they can come up with.

[xrodmuc316]

Yeah has to be nitpickers nitpicking something and the ref is the only thing they can come up with.

I enjoyed the show, but it wasn't a walk in water perfect show either, there was plenty things that weren't great.

Cody 100% has an Attitude era match with all the over the top nonsense. Don't get me wrong, I loved the match, but I love over the top nonsense when done right, and Cody and Spears was very enjoyable. It is just a little funny the guy who "killed" the attitude era is the guy who keeps performing exactly that way. Hypocritical.

The ladder match has too many standing and waiting for the next spot. Spots are great in matches, but the whole match being step by step by step, paint by numbers spot to spot to spot, it's just not as good as a solid wrestling match.

Same issue with the cracker barrel match.

Pac/Omega, Cody/Spears, and Jericho/Page were worth the money. There were some cool spots in the 2 gimmick matches, but other than they 3 big singles matches, the rest of the PPV was nothing to glorify.

That's not nitpicking, that's just where they can improve.

[mike adamle]

She was VERY over the top the whole match...everytime they hit each other she cringed, made weird faces and flung her arms around like she was the one being hit

Maybe I will get used to her


https://i.imgur.com/JktM2ab.jpg

Don't almost all refs do that stuff nowadays?

[Jordan]

She was VERY over the top the whole match...everytime they hit each other she cringed, made weird faces and flung her arms around like she was the one being hit

Maybe I will get used to her


https://i.imgur.com/JktM2ab.jpg

It's true, Aubroe was horrible and this moment is why. I wanted to say something on Twitter but I didn't want to hurt her feelings. It's something Tony can deal with. Her reactions were theatrical as hell during the final throws of the main event. Didn't ruin it but it was really shitty to steal focus like that. We don't need a ref to interpret the action via fake subconscious physicality.

[Jordan]

I enjoyed the show, but it wasn't a walk in water perfect show either, there was plenty things that weren't great.

Cody 100% has an Attitude era match with all the over the top nonsense. Don't get me wrong, I loved the match, but I love over the top nonsense when done right, and Cody and Spears was very enjoyable. It is just a little funny the guy who "killed" the attitude era is the guy who keeps performing exactly that way. Hypocritical.

The ladder match has too many standing and waiting for the next spot. Spots are great in matches, but the whole match being step by step by step, paint by numbers spot to spot to spot, it's just not as good as a solid wrestling match.

Same issue with the cracker barrel match.

Pac/Omega, Cody/Spears, and Jericho/Page were worth the money. There were some cool spots in the 2 gimmick matches, but other than they 3 big singles matches, the rest of the PPV was nothing to glorify.

That's not nitpicking, that's just where they can improve.
I agree with you strong bro

[Evil Vito]

"We aren't competing with WWE"
Talks about WWE constantly

TNAEW Total Nonstop All Elite Wrestling :rofl:

Triggered responses like this are precisely the reason they keep doing it

[screech]

I guess it's just me, but the ref took nothing out of the match for me. The only "theatrical" thing I really noticed was her reaction to the deadeye kickout, and that didn't bother me at all.

I don't know if people just like to complain, but it is what it is.

[Jordan]

I guess it's just me, but the ref took nothing out of the match for me. The only "theatrical" thing I really noticed was her reaction to the deadeye kickout, and that didn't bother me at all.

I don't know if people just like to complain, but it is what it is.

Do you think a Canadian destroyer is a realistic move?

[Jordan]

If you do then I get it. Realisim in wrestling isn't your thing.

She just shouldn't be emoting on behalf of the work.

[screech]

It's not, but seeing one doesn't take me out of anything. Moves and stuff should make sense (maybe the wrong phrasing but whatever), but at the end of the day it's a TV show that I watch to be entertained.

It doesn't bother me when referees react to things. Most of the time I probably don't even notice. Should they flat out beat up guys like Shane Sewell did in TNA? No, that was dumb.

But showing emotion isn't an issue for me. Her being shocked in the moment ruined nothing for me.

[Verbose Minch]

For the record, I liked her going back at Jericho, that was great. But her flailing around to every punch and posing is the issue

[Vastardikai]

Some of these folks acting like they never seen Nick Patrick go wide-eyed and do a double take off a press slam.

[Vastardikai]

Also...

https://i.imgur.com/JktM2ab.jpg

Ever the multitasker, the ref calls the match while having sex with Stevie Richards.

[xrodmuc316]

Triggered responses like this are precisely the reason they keep doing it


Laughing at them for constantly doing what they say they aren't going to do and being TNA 2.0 is not what being triggered means.

If they didn't go out of their way to say WWE isn't their competition then continue to bring up WWE, it wouldn't be funny.

But they do, so it is.

[Jordan]

It's not, but seeing one doesn't take me out of anything. Moves and stuff should make sense (maybe the wrong phrasing but whatever), but at the end of the day it's a TV show that I watch to be entertained.

It doesn't bother me when referees react to things. Most of the time I probably don't even notice. Should they flat out beat up guys like Shane Sewell did in TNA? No, that was dumb.

But showing emotion isn't an issue for me. Her being shocked in the moment ruined nothing for me.

I get you. I think that it wouldn't have been an issue for me if it didn't come off as false/forced.

[Jordan]

https://www.f4wonline.com/sites/www.f4wonline.com/files/field/image/fullgeartickets.jpeg

This graphic and PPV name are so b-level WWE PPV from the mid 2010's.

[screech]

Capitol Punishment?

[Cooler Tom Schuler]

Wow! Didn't know Cooler Tom Schuler still posted here. Wild.


I don't think he does.

[Simple Fan]

Laughing at them for constantly doing what they say they aren't going to do and being TNA 2.0 is not what being triggered means.

If they didn't go out of their way to say WWE isn't their competition then continue to bring up WWE, it wouldn't be funny.

But they do, so it is.

Bringing up WWE in a joking fashion on a YouTube show isn't really saying WWE is their competition. Acknowldging that WWE exist is just being real and there just so happens to be material from WWE that is easy to make fun of.

Obviously WWE is anyone's competition when it comes to pro wrestling but their point about it not being competition is that they are going to do their thing and let WWE counter. That will be tested once they get on TV, but WWE is the standard for pro wrestling and if you are trying to draw in people that are sick off WWE than making fun of them is good marketing.

[Destor]

I really dislike her. Feel like shes getting herself over. Refs should sell to some extent but it should be subtle not loud like its progressively getting. The fact we're talking about her is all the proof you need that she isnt any good. If shes drawn enough attention to warrent a discussion she took the spotlight and placed it ln herself.

[Destor]

Didnt realize there was another page and without a quote my post has no context...oh well

[Damian Rey 2.0]

I really dislike her. Feel like shes getting herself over. Refs should sell to some extent but it should be subtle not loud like its progressively getting. The fact we're talking about her is all the proof you need that she isnt any good. If shes drawn enough attention to warrent a discussion she took the spotlight and placed it ln herself.

Didn't notice her, but all this is 100% correct.

[Tom Guycott]

Didnt realize there was another page and without a quote my post has no context...oh well

Don't correct it; if for no other reason than when this is inevitably bumped years later. Let the necroposter scratch their head if they're too lazy to investigate.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Triggered responses like this are precisely the reason they keep doing it

That’s constructive.