View Full Version : pet peeves about wrestling
rob11
06-10-2004, 09:12 PM
i know wrestling is scripted and all but there are some things that get to me as being too fake. ill start off.
heel clotheslines face, face stays down. face clotheslines heel, heel gets right back up.
OssMan
06-10-2004, 09:15 PM
wx?
Joe Kerr
06-10-2004, 09:16 PM
I hate that a chair shot can knock someone out in a regular match but in a hardcore match you can hit someone 10 times and barely hurt them.
blake639raw
06-10-2004, 09:28 PM
I hate when people get knocked cold by acoustic guitars. They're fn' hollow. If a wrestler can take repeated blows to the face, and slams to the mat, an acoustic guitar shouldn't really hurt all that bad.
Wondermouse
06-10-2004, 09:32 PM
I hate when people get knocked cold by acoustic guitars. They're fn' hollow. If a wrestler can take repeated blows to the face, and slams to the mat, an acoustic guitar shouldn't really hurt all that bad.
Uh, maybe an acoustic guitar made of balsa...
big_bluto
06-10-2004, 09:33 PM
I hate that Bradshaw hasn't been fired yet, I hate that Bob Holly wasn't fired long ago, and I hate that WWE hasn't hired me as a writer yet on $250,000 a year. (plus expenses, of course)
loopydate
06-10-2004, 09:36 PM
How do the technicians know to have the guy's music ready when he's going to interrupt a promo?
Why can Jericho put the Walls on Trish because she deserves it, but Kane can't chokeslam Lita without being a bahgawdsonofabitch?
How does Jim Ross still have a job, for that matter?
big_bluto
06-10-2004, 09:45 PM
How come none of the women have made complaints about Jerry Lawler saying 'puppies' and other sexist remarks on a continuous basis?
How come Trish's tits never bounce out?
Why do they consider Jazz a diva, when she's plainly too ugly to be photographed?
How come Kane wasn't fired for setting JR on fire, or for tombstoning the CEO of the company?
How come Ric Flair never makes it down from the top rope without assistance?
How come Kurt Angle never got Big Show charged with assault or GBH for throwing him off of the ledge?
How come Cena always has time to fit in a rap before his opponent comes out, and more to the point, why does Cena always come out first?
How come HHH is in the main event when the World title is on the line in another match?
How do the technicians know to have the guy's music ready when he's going to interrupt a promo?
once they showed matt hardy backstage before he was about to interupt a promo, and he said to one of the people in some room "hit my music, i'm going out there"
I guess that was their attempt at an explanation to that question
What i hate the most is predictability and interferences/disqualifications ending 90% of non-payperview title matches, thats' all i can think of, i'm sure there's a lot more
rob11
06-10-2004, 09:59 PM
keyboard failure assman, fixed
Shadow
06-10-2004, 10:02 PM
I hate how the CWs aren't allowed to fly.
no...that's it.
Mike the Metal Ed
06-10-2004, 10:07 PM
I hate when people get knocked cold by acoustic guitars. They're fn' hollow. If a wrestler can take repeated blows to the face, and slams to the mat, an acoustic guitar shouldn't really hurt all that bad.
You obviously never read Mick Foley's books, where he mentions that Honky Tonk Man used real top of the line acoustic guitars, compared to Jarrett's props, and how much Honky Tonk's hurt, compared to Jarrett's.
Mike the Metal Ed
06-10-2004, 10:09 PM
Also, my acoustic guitar is fucking heavy, and would certainly hurt if swung with enough velocity.
Joe Kerr
06-10-2004, 10:14 PM
Also, my acoustic guitar is fucking heavy, and would certainly hurt if swung with enough velocity.
its not a electric accoustic is it :lol:
Mike the Metal Ed
06-10-2004, 10:26 PM
its not a electric accoustic is it :lol:
Nope.
I hate it when the ref is always standing right behind someone when they are about to get clocked, and you can tell that the ref is gonna get hit instead.
I hate it when something big like interference happens at the end of a Raw or Smackdown that causes a big match to be a no decision, and nobody even seems to care.
I hate the fact that its always the Spanish announce table that always seems to get wrecked, poor Hugo Savinovich and the other guy :)
Shadow
06-10-2004, 10:38 PM
I hate it when the refs in WCW would have their backs turned and Jeff Jarret would clock someone with a guitar and peices of wood would be all over the place and the ref turns around and doesn't DQ Jarret for that. I mean, the evidence is right there! Damn you Nick Patrick! Damn you!
I hate how the ref "Doesnt see" a face's tag when they DO tag, but when a HEEL team DOESNT tag, it's legal...
I hate how people stay down for minuites for the People's Elbow, then LOSE...
Same w/ the 619...
I hate when there's always a Barbed Wire 2x4/bat or tacks are "conveniently" placed under the ring...
I hate how they dont always show Iron Man Match clocks... You never know when the add a little time to it...
I hate how Austin could drink on the job...
Finally... I hate the brand split :mad:
Batsu
06-10-2004, 11:11 PM
Why can Jericho put the Walls on Trish because she deserves it, but Kane can't chokeslam Lita without being a bahgawdsonofabitch?
the real question is: Why can't Jericho put the -real- Walls of Jericho on someone, but Shawn Michaels can?
rob11
06-10-2004, 11:53 PM
another one of mine is mentioned above. refs always stop faces from coming in during tag matches but heels run in at will.
mrslackalack
06-10-2004, 11:59 PM
I always hate it when the heel cheats and gets away with it but when the face cheats either another ref comes out or the ref asks for a replay instances that ticked me off on this was,
Test vs Jarrett I-C title match 99 HEAT
Savio Vega vs Goldust I-C title RAW mar 96
HHH vs Jericho RAW Apr 2000
Dunno, I'm not really bothered by the mechanics of the show too much.
ColdwaVer
06-11-2004, 12:45 AM
Finally... I hate the brand split :mad:
I hate how people can't reaize that without the brand split, guys like Orton, Cena, and Benjamin would be restricted to Heat, and Benoit and Guerrerro would more likely be the first tag team to land on the moon than World Champions.
Aussie Skier
06-11-2004, 01:38 AM
tag matches piss me off...they're always the same.
Faces and heels lock up.
Face dominatges for about the 1st 3 minutes, heels gets a cheap shot of some sort. Heels dominant face. face makes tag to other face who clears the ring. match becomes a shambles.
Then a heel cheats to win, or a face win cleanly.
ilt_undertaker
06-11-2004, 01:47 AM
I hate it that on SmackDown: HCTP, when you pick HBK or Flair as a ref, they get knocked out really easily and get up like 5 years later. But when they arent refs, they dont get knocked out so easily
I also hate it when Flair is a ref, and you do his taunt (the one where he falls face first), he gets knocked out. But when he isnt a ref, he doesnt get knocked out.
Do these even count? :shifty:
FourFifty
06-11-2004, 02:16 AM
I hate when people get knocked cold by acoustic guitars. They're fn' hollow. If a wrestler can take repeated blows to the face, and slams to the mat, an acoustic guitar shouldn't really hurt all that bad.
I like The Honky Tonk Man's guitar... with the sand bag in it...
FourFifty
06-11-2004, 02:21 AM
<font color=cyan>I hate how Bradshaw is getting a push but Kanyon doesn't have a contract.
I hate the lack of Sean O'Haire.
I hate how I can't find the text to Sean O'Haire's promos
I LITERALLY hate how Jim Ross says "literally" and then talks about all this chaos that isn't that bad.
I hate how the only thing I like about JBL is how people make fun of him.
I hate seeing so much HHH on Raw.
I hate it when people balme children getting hurt because they were "infulnced" by pro wrestling to emulate their favs when the parent can't come out and say "Yep, I fuc</u>king suck as a dad, I should cut my nuts off now."
</font color>
Why can Angle stand with a cast on when 'his wrestling career is ruined, he has no sex life'?
How on earth did Angle change clothes with that cast on everyday?
Why does Johnny ~insert surname~ change his name every 3 weeks?
I hate how Ultimo Dragon was hyped up for months then forgotten.
I also hate it when a heel attacks a diva he is a no-good son of a bitch but when a face attacks a diva she deserved it.
I hate how JBL & Bob Holly have had main event runs this year but Sean O'Haire and Chris Kanyon have both been fired.
I hate how Jericho's title run was a joke.
I hate how the CW division is also a joke.
I also hate when Jarrett hits someone with a guitar behind the ref's back yet it makes a big noise and there are bits of the guitar all over the ring yet the ref still doesn't DQ Jarrett.
Wondermouse
06-11-2004, 08:49 AM
the real question is: Why can't Jericho put the -real- Walls of Jericho on someone, but Shawn Michaels can?
The Liontamer was discouraged by WWE because it legitimately wrenches the neck of whoever's in it. Guys like Rey Mysterio and Dean Malenko could take it easily, but in WWE, Jericho's putting it on bigger guys like Triple H and Christian.
Obviously, Benoit's a bit smaller. Also, it was a bit of a reference to Benoit's japanese history. Benoit used the hold before Jericho ever did - in fact, he used it in his 1995 match vs Jericho.
Tornado
06-11-2004, 09:03 AM
I hate how I can't find the text to Sean O'Haire's promos
You stole my font colour, so I really shouldnt give you this link, but:
http://www.expage.com/thedrunkenirishman/
blake639raw
06-11-2004, 11:39 AM
You obviously never read Mick Foley's books, where he mentions that Honky Tonk Man used real top of the line acoustic guitars, compared to Jarrett's props, and how much Honky Tonk's hurt, compared to Jarrett's. I read "Have A Nice Day", but I must have forgotten that part. I'm mainly talking about Jarrett's guitars, they just look so hollow and cheap.
I hate how people can't reaize that without the brand split, guys like Orton, Cena, and Benjamin would be restricted to Heat, and Benoit and Guerrerro would more likely be the first tag team to land on the moon than World Champions.
Although true, I still hate it... Hated it ever since it started...
Stickman
06-11-2004, 01:32 PM
I agree with what everybody else said but I have some more:
I don't watch TNA but in WWE and WCW I hate how Jeff Jarrett even has a guitar. Like seriously, who would intentionally bring a guitar to a fight?
I'm really getting sick of JR and King's routine. Bring back the Brain and the Body!
I've been sick of Kane since his mask came off.
I've been sick of Kurt Angle's "Olympic Hero" crap for the longest time, he just annoys me on the mic.
I hate most women's matches. A women's match to start off Raw? Come on now...
I'm sick of HHH. I was a fan, but he is always on TV and NEVER changes.
I hate tag team matches right now. I'd rather see four guys thrown together than watch an actually tag team against somebody like Beniot and Edge.
That reminds me, I hate Edge's gimmick, what is it anyways? His spear is awful.
A Diva search? Remember the days when there was only a couple pieces of eye candy insteady of every show? I love hot chicks but the interest dwindles when they're constantly around (man I miss the days of Sunny).
I'm sick of this GM swapping on Smackdown.
I'm surprised how there's two world champions and people don't complain.
The One
06-11-2004, 03:57 PM
I hate how underneath the ring is a hardware store...
I hate how no one ever questions why there arn't fights between Lumbjacks in a Lumbjack match...
I hate how all faces and all heels seem to get along...
I hate how JR can change his opinion about a "Jesabell" to a "Lovly Young Lady" in about 1 week.
ilt_undertaker
06-11-2004, 04:04 PM
I hate how underneath the ring is a hardware store...
:lol:
Stickman
06-11-2004, 04:06 PM
Another thing that bugs me is when somebody gets whipped into the corner and his opponent (usually a face) goes for a shoulderblock/tackle the other guy moves and his shoulder gets smashed into the fatal ring post. Besides RVD does anybody ever connect with a shoulderblock in the corner?
rob11
06-11-2004, 07:17 PM
i understand some of the things under the ring but why are rigged breakable tables put under the ring :)
Shadow
06-11-2004, 11:16 PM
i understand some of the things under the ring but why are rigged breakable tables put under the ring :)
They aren't rigged.
FourFifty
06-12-2004, 02:10 AM
They aren't rigged.
<font color=cyan>You're both wrong.
It's a legit table, it's just really cheap. It has been said that on the outside of the ring the table takes a good ammount of impact from the body before the body can crash onto the floor with no give.
If you want to buy a real folding out table thingie you'll notice a center brace, made of metal, which is used so the table can support weight.
Next table you see in the ring, it won't have that.
Anywho, onto more of what I hate....
I hate how the WWE would be nothing without Vince yet he's a total asshole.
I hate JBL.
I hate how a move like... I don't know... The Tombstone can be done for well over 10 years but when Vince's son-in-law gets "shaken up" by it they ban the move no matter how many times it has scared the hell out of Mick Foley when he was about to be drilled onto the mat.
I hate how wrestlers can get arrested and then have all of their legal problems reloved in a week.
I hate how when a wrestler has a choice to make they're usally given a weeks time to make it.
<font size=1>(don't misunderstand- I know how the logic works, but come on, one week every freakin' time? How about "You have 72 hours to give me an answer!" so they can keep the viewers by the balls about the choice)</font size>
I hate how Vince's ideas never get burried... Okay, he made a good call with Edge, but Bradshaw's push?
I hate Bradshaw.
I hate how Spanky isn't with the WWE any more.
I hate Hardcore Holly for being such a dumbass.
I hate how I both love and hate the WWE.</font color>
They aren't rigged.
Bullshit they aren't.
They aren't REAL wooden tables, if they were then wrestlers would break ribs and puncture organs everytime they took a table bump. The tables are made out of compressed woodchips that bonds together so that the tables don't "splinter," and break much easier than a normal table would.
Anyways, back on topic, I absolutely hate how stupid steel cage matches are these days. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the damn "escape out the door" rule. When they're slowly crawling toward the open door, it looks so ridiculous when they get cut off, cause they could easily pull themselves out the door if they wanted to.
I hate how JR slips up every week and calls moves by their wrong name.
BAH GAWD STUNNER! Er, I mean... Hip toss :shifty:
Anyway... I also hate the escape through the door rule... They should just pad lock it and make them CLIMB out... Im not too fond of pins/submissions in cages either... Sure, they cut a few seconds off the match, but come on... (Okay, if Big Show were in a cage match I could understand, but Jericho?)
Aussie Skier
06-12-2004, 09:57 AM
Bullshit they aren't.
They aren't REAL wooden tables, if they were then wrestlers would break ribs and puncture organs everytime they took a table bump. The tables are made out of compressed woodchips that bonds together so that the tables don't "splinter," and break much easier than a normal table would.
Anyways, back on topic, I absolutely hate how stupid steel cage matches are these days. It wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the damn "escape out the door" rule. When they're slowly crawling toward the open door, it looks so ridiculous when they get cut off, cause they could easily pull themselves out the door if they wanted to.
HAHAHAH.
or they just walk REALLY slowly towards the door, gesturing to the crowd
Aussie Skier
06-12-2004, 10:00 AM
one thing i dont hate per se, but find odd is:
how ppl can btich about wrestling, yet absoltuly love it @ the same time. Is like the ultimate irony, or juxtaposition, if you will
rob11
06-12-2004, 10:07 AM
2 things. 1, to the poster above, thats why this forum exists. so we can talk and sometimes bitch about it. 2, those tables have to be fixed somehow. no way they are real.
big_bluto
06-12-2004, 10:24 AM
Tables - they're made of chipboard, which is really just pressed chunks of sawdust.
Over that is a very thin layer of laminate, and by the looks of them, they're only about 18mm, so the actual boards of the table ain't that sturdy.
Now then, 2 leg brackets secured to the base, and a thin metal edging band around the table, and the structural strength of the table is solely due to the chipboard, which isn't that strong anyway.
Tables like this are fine for having dinner on, but they are cheap, crappy tables.
You know the sort that sell for £10 or $14.95 in B&Q or K-mart or places like that.
The reason that they shatter/break like they do is because they're usually hit with someone (average of at least 15 stone) moving at speed towards a stationery object, and the impact is at the weakest point.
Something has to give, and the table is usually weaker than the wrestler.
What about when they put someone on it to jump through it? And when they stand on it? Are they stronger tables, or are they really strong enough to hold a body (or two)?
Batsu
06-12-2004, 04:41 PM
The Liontamer was discouraged by WWE because it legitimately wrenches the neck of whoever's in it. Guys like Rey Mysterio and Dean Malenko could take it easily, but in WWE, Jericho's putting it on bigger guys like Triple H and Christian.
Obviously, Benoit's a bit smaller. Also, it was a bit of a reference to Benoit's japanese history. Benoit used the hold before Jericho ever did - in fact, he used it in his 1995 match vs Jericho.
That's lame, though.
Jericho should stop using that overhyped Boston Crab...it's an embarrassment to his earlier greatness.
Gerard
06-12-2004, 05:31 PM
On the subject of guitars...why in the f*ck does jarret come out with a guitar anyway? honkey tonk man had a reason as it was a part of his "musician" gimmick.
Anyway on with the hatin:
For the most part i hate womens matches, they look so friggin forced, they get tossed into the ropes ..the ropes barely move yet they come springing off them like they got shot out of a cannon. :wtf:
I hate the fact that taker chokeslams someone like big show, get him all of 3 inches off the mat but somehow gets the pin and 5 minutes later show is still laying there from the force of that "devestating 3 inch chokelsam". :wtf:
I hate the fact that its pretty obvious kane has stopped wearing the lifts in his boots, looks roughly 6 foot 6 or so now and they still blab on about the "7 foot monster" even though its sorely obvious he has shrunk.
I hate the fact that the world title match on sunday will now play second fiddle to one of the most boring overused fueds of the last few years.
I hate how they hype and hype a wrestler, before burying him for no reason.
I hate coles little weekly rants which basically sound the same week in week out, needs to stop taking pointers from jr bahgawdstunnersonovabitch.
I hate cenas "raps" if thats what you can call them these days.
I hate cenas finisher, a fart would hit you with more impact than his glorified slam.
I hate how wwe screwed with goldbergs character and gave him a very watered down version of his entrance compared to his wcw entrance.
I hate how the took an angle like the nwo or invasion and managed to mess them up royally, despite the fact that chimps coulda came up with storylines that worked, for free.
I hate how belfast always seems to get smackdown shows and never raw.
I hate these f*cking commercial breaks in the raw main event and the frequency of commericals in general is starting to piss me off.
I hate having to wait untill friday to see raw, can they not show it like tuesday or wednesday or something?
I hate the way smackdowns late showing (on the rare occasion i watch it) always gets fu*ked up times, they advertise it for 2am..then we get boxing over-running for 45 minutes or so. Sky in general can blow me.
Bla im done for now :wave:
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