Raw June 14th

[Shadow]

Poor Stacy. Someone should go down there and rub her back for her. And her legs.

[Loose Cannon]

Gail Kim has some great moves. :naughty:

[Kane Knight]

Why was King against that suvbmission? He got to see her legs and crotch? You'd think he woulda overloaded.

[Gone Mad]

JR couldn't have sounded more excited for this match. And King for that matter wasn't thrilled either. Oh and BTW this week's thread raised the slump. We made it past page 4 and the show isn't over yet.

[RawRocks]

is the Raw brand hurting for matches tonight or something?

[Joe Kerr]

Ok Im going to guess this is what happens...


They play off that Lita is pregnant with Kanes child. Eric Bishoff threatens Litas Job and Forces her to wrestle. Therefore Lita ends up Losing the child while managing to elevate Matt Hardy vs. Kane. Keep in mind Matt Hardy needs knee surgery.. Im not sure the extent of it or how much time he will need off.

[Loose Cannon]

OKAY GUYS, I'm gonna go count the stars outside. Should be a blast

[Kane Knight]

I have that effect on Raw threads.s

[Savio]

JR couldn't have sounded more excited for this match. And King for that matter wasn't thrilled either. Oh and BTW this week's thread raised the slump. We made it past page 4 and the show isn't over yet.
Summer vac. dude.

[Mayo]

I love Gail's white shorts :drool:

[Joe Kerr]

JR couldn't have sounded more excited for this match. And King for that matter wasn't thrilled either. Oh and BTW this week's thread raised the slump. We made it past page 4 and the show isn't over yet.


My pics helped :shifty:

[Lara Emily]

WHOOOOOO, 47 minutes wasn't enough now they gotta kill more time with the HIAC.

[RawRocks]

there has been more commercial time than Raw air time

[Kane Knight]

And Raw's so lame right now, the thread's more entertaining.

[Kane Knight]

How many period facial ads do we need in an hour?

[Gone Mad]

Mr. Radd's "pretty girly pics" = Thread Ratings

[Joe Kerr]

WHOOOOOO, 47 minutes wasn't enough now they gotta kill more time with the HIAC.


47 minutes you didnt see so you should be happy to see highlights

[Mayo]

RAD-ical thread! :D

[The Forgotten One]

I've been more interested in SmackDown! lately.

RAW has really been lacking lately IMO.

[Shadow]

...Still pictures? The hell?!

[Lara Emily]

LOL OMG it's WCW style stills :|

[PoisonIvy]

I can only handle 30 minutes of WWE a week, its gotten that bad.

[Gone Mad]

Yup and most of those commercials have been for Joe Schmoe 2,premiering tomorrow only on Spike TV..ok..they are getting to me now..*drinks a MadWeiser to relax*

[zach]

BITCH BITCH BITCH WHINE WHINE WHINE

[Shadow]

Get ready for the last HBK segment we'll see in awhile.

[Joe Kerr]

The only person who can save RAW tonight

http://raw.wwe.com/superstars/lilian/images/lilian.jpg

[Shadow]

HE MISSED THE FRIGGEN CHAIR!

[Lara Emily]

man poor bastards who paid to be at this show live

[The Forgotten One]

The only person who can save RAW tonight

http://raw.wwe.com/superstars/lilian/images/lilian.jpg
:drool:

[Lara Emily]

BITCH BITCH BITCH WHINE WHINE WHINE
Shut up. This show is horrible.

[Joe Kerr]

man poor bastards who paid to be at this show live


No matter how bad a show is Live is always 100 times better.

[Savio]

How many matches were there so far 3?

[Shadow]

Is it just me or does Will Ferrel in this movie look like JBL?

[Loose Cannon]

BITCH BITCH BITCH WHINE WHINE WHINE

WARRIOR: BAHHHHHHHHH, YOU INTERNENT MICROSOURS SOUR THE WARRIOR PLANET WITH YOU'RE NEGATIVITY TOWARDS THAT WHICH SHOULD ONLY BE REFLECTED UPON AS ENTERTAINMENT. GRRRRRRRR, THE GODS OF THE WARRIORS SHALL DECOMPOSE THOSE WHO SEEK REDEMTIONJUSTICE FOR POPOSTROUS RECONCILIATION. NEGATIVITIZE EVERYTHING AND THEE WILL PERISH FROM THE FRUIT OF THE WARRIOR UNDERWORLD **SNARLS**


YEAH, I'M FRICKEN BORED :-\

[I-Hate-You]

The promos have been excellent tonight.

Wish I could say the same for the wrestling.

[zach]

lara, why do you even watch wwe if all youre gonna do is piss and moan? wait, you dont even watch it and you still bitch just to go along with the crowd

i mean, i may think differently, but if i consistently see or do something i dont like, i stop watching/doing it

[Mayo]

Yeah this thread is the only reason i'm watching Raw tonight, otherwise I would have taped it tomorrow. I slept for 4 hours last night, and i'm gonna get maybe 5 hours tonight, but I did it cause of all you guys.

I love you man!!! :love:

[Savio]

How many matches were there so far 3, right?

[Gone Mad]

This is why I don't wanna see Raw next week live when it comes over here to Miami. I have that feeling of disappointment,although HHH v. Dinsmore could be interesting. Watch next week is more of a clip show and Joe Schmoe Ad. That would reassure me about not going.

[Lara Emily]

No matter how bad a show is Live is always 100 times better.

When there are matches yes.

[Mayo]

The promos have been excellent tonight.

Wish I could say the same for the wrestling.

:y:

[Savio]

thanks mayo

[RawRocks]

and three or four weeks ago we were bitching about the commercial breaks....
tonight i say....























JUST BRING EM ON! :rant:

[Mr. JL]

WARRIOR: BAHHHHHHHHH, YOU INTERNENT MICROSOURS SOUR THE WARRIOR PLANET WITH YOU'RE NEGATIVITY TOWARDS THAT WHICH SHOULD ONLY BE REFLECTED UPON AS ENTERTAINMENT. GRRRRRRRR, THE GODS OF THE WARRIORS SHALL DECOMPOSE THOSE WHO SEEK REDEMTIONJUSTICE FOR POPOSTROUS RECONCILIATION. NEGATIVITIZE EVERYTHING AND THEE WILL PERISH FROM THE FRUIT OF THE WARRIOR UNDERWORLD **SNARLS**


YEAH, I'M FRICKEN BORED :-\
lol

[V]

Shut up. This show is horrible.

turn off your fucking tv and stop bitching



i've been wanting to get that out of me...

[Lara Emily]

lara, why do you even watch wwe if all youre gonna do is piss and moan? wait, you dont even watch it and you still bitch just to go along with the crowd

i mean, i may think differently, but if i consistently see or do something i dont like, i stop watching/doing it

Right I'm just a weak willed follower who only doesnt like something because everyone else doesn't like it. Nevermind that I just think this show has been shit. :roll:

[Savio]

ITs gonna take them 5 minutes to get to the ring.

[Blue Demon]

Raw is sub-par this week :-\

[Mr. JL]

Lets see if the star of RAW (Randy Orton) can make this RAW at least a little bit worth my while...

[Joe Kerr]

Yeah this thread is the only reason i'm watching Raw tonight, otherwise I would have taped it tomorrow. I slept for 4 hours last night, and i'm gonna get maybe 5 hours tonight, but I did it cause of all you guys.

I love you man!!! :love:


go ahead admit it, its me



heres a little bribery for you to admit it :lol:

http://divasundressed.wwe.com/victoria/images/03.jpg

[Blue Demon]

lol...that guy had blank bristol board in the Evolution sign

[Lara Emily]

turn off your fucking tv and stop bitching



i've been wanting to get that out of me...

I'll speak my mind when I want thank you very much.

[Loose Cannon]

WOOOOOOOOOO ORTON TIME

[Gone Mad]

*BOWS DOWN TO THE KING OF BLING BLING*

[Blue Demon]

WOOOOOOO! for Flair

[V]

I'll speak my mind when I want thank you very much.

sigh, i can respect that, as much as i hate to

i Just don't understand, if you hate the wwe so much, why the hell do you watch it?

[Shadow]

Hey...its Edge. The crowd in Ohio loves him.

[RawRocks]

i wonder if Eugene will come stumbling into this match

[Joe Kerr]

http://raw.wwe.com/superstars/edge/images/edge1.jpg

[zach]

Right I'm just a weak willed follower who only doesnt like something because everyone else doesn't like it. Nevermind that I just think this show has been shit. :roll:

oh, so now you watched the hell in a cell match? and didnt just bitch to go along with other people?

oh man, i mustve totally misunderstood where you said "i didnt even order the ppv"

[Mayo]

go ahead admit it, its me



heres a little bribery for you to admit it :lol:

http://divasundressed.wwe.com/victoria/images/03.jpg

:drool:

Wait, no Joey, its all of the great people in this Raw thread! I love them all! [/sarcasm]

*coughs in expectance of more pics of bribery*

;)

[Blue Demon]

Eugene really grew on a lot of people...me included

[Lara Emily]

sigh, i can respect that, as much as i hate to

i Just don't understand, if you hate the wwe so much, why the hell do you watch it?

Because it's the only wrestling on TV. That and there's always the microscopic chance of a good show.

[Joe Kerr]

http://raw.wwe.com/superstars/benoit_c/images/benoit.jpg

[Savio]

I'd rather have HHH beat Kane then Benoit at Summer slam.

[Kane Knight]

turn off your fucking tv and stop bitching



i've been wanting to get that out of me...
Stab yourself with a Q-Tip.

[Gone Mad]

Hey,Radd. I will agree you are the reason I am here. Perty Girls = Ratings. And it helps that Radd rhymes with Mad.

[V]

http://images.google.ca/images?q=tbn:Gi7qAOT6zcoJ:cubepix.tripod.com/RingsideWith/RandyOrton/WWERaw/120202/01.jpg

Today on RNN, Randy was spotted nekkid in Loose Cannon's bath tub:

http://images.google.ca/images?q=tbn:qfePjk4EtZEJ:fff.fathom.org/pages/jarbabyj/Randy%2520Orton%2520hot%25202.jpg

[Lara Emily]

http://raw.wwe.com/superstars/benoit_c/images/benoit.jpg

GOD

[RawRocks]

I'd rather have HHH beat Kane then Benoit at Summer slam.
AMEN! :mad:

[Shadow]

Should someone tell LC that Randy's on the tv?

[Kane Knight]

BITCH BITCH BITCH WHINE WHINE WHINE
So you come on.line to bitch about people bitching?

[Lara Emily]

JR sounds so bored LOL

[Loose Cannon]

Triple A: Last Activity: Today 10:55 PM
Creating Thread wrestling forum @ 10:55 PM :yes:

[RawRocks]

isnt Flair going to retire anytime soon?

[Lara Emily]

oh, so now you watched the hell in a cell match? and didnt just bitch to go along with other people?

oh man, i mustve totally misunderstood where you said "i didnt even order the ppv"
I got litteraly a move for move description of the match. While it was happening.

[Shadow]

Wow...would you guys look at that. A commercial break. When we come back, HHH will have just pinned Beniot.

[Savio]

Was Flair eliminated?

[Gone Mad]

JR sounds like he has been slapped like a gov'rnment mule,I tell you. He has lost his energy since Mr. HBK has lost his smile again today.

[RawRocks]

aww shucks.. just take a break that isnt needed in only the fourth and final match

[Joe Kerr]

:drool:

Wait, no Joey, its all of the great people in this Raw thread! I love them all! [/sarcasm]

*coughs in expectance of more pics of bribery*

;)


I think I can work something out.....we need to revive my Divas thread :drool:

http://divasundressed.wwe.com/nidia/images/02.jpg
http://divasundressed.wwe.com/stacy/images/01.jpg
http://divasundressed.wwe.com/stacy/images/05.jpg

[Shadow]

.......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joe Kerr]

Hey,Radd. I will agree you are the reason I am here. Perty Girls = Ratings. And it helps that Radd rhymes with Mad.


sorry man i cant rep you again lol

[Mayo]

Joey is the MAN!!! :wave:

[Loose Cannon]

great post Mayo

[Lara Emily]

Someone ELMINATE ORTON!!!! *CLAP* *CLAP*

[Gone Mad]

Ah,reps not a problem,Radd my man. Like I said, Perty Girls = Ratings. Thus the recent slump in the recent shows. That means more perty girls!

[Kane Knight]

I think we need to start a BORING chant.

[Loose Cannon]

6 MONTHS IC CHAMP. HOW ABOUT THAT.

[Mr. JL]

My bet is Orton pins Benoit

[Shadow]

Ok. Boring! Boring! Boring!

[Lara Emily]

6 MONTHS IC CHAMP. HOW ABOUT THAT.

He's hardly what I would call a fighting champion.

[Joe Kerr]

Ah,reps not a problem,Radd my man. Like I said, Perty Girls = Ratings. Thus the recent slump in the recent shows. That means more perty girls!


I lied I was able to :D

[Loose Cannon]

He's hardly what I would call a fighting champion.

YEAH, THAT'S HIS FAULT RIGHT. :roll:

[Joe Kerr]

Im thinking Edge pins Orton

[Shadow]

Lets have a really fucked up elimination. Just a whole bunch of people eliminated at once. That'd be cool.

[Lara Emily]

hey I just realised it's Team Canada vs Evolution.

[Mayo]

Having Orton as champ still gives the title a lot more credibility than if it was bounced around every month. I want Orton to drop it soon though, he's had it long enough.

[Lara Emily]

YEAH, THAT'S HIS FAULT RIGHT. :roll:

Did I say it was? I think it;s stupid to be parading him as soem super IC champ when he barely defends it.

[Gone Mad]

This will probably lead to no one getting eliminated,thus a Elimination Chamber match for the title. I know,far-fetched,but damn it,there's 7 minutes!

[Kane Knight]

hey I just realised it's Team Canada vs Evolution.
Moron. Benoit's from down south, and Jericho's CLEARLY form New York.

And Edge? Well, he's MExican. Can't you tell he look Mexican?

[Loose Cannon]

Did I say it was? I think it;s stupid to be parading him as soem super IC champ when he barely defends it.
But how many past IC CHAMPS were fighting champions?

[Lara Emily]

Having Orton as champ still gives the title a lot more credibility than if it was bounced around every month. I want Orton to drop it soon though, he's had it long enough.

Maybe, but it doesn't do much if it's just a showpiece.

[RawRocks]

Na Na Na Na Hey Hey Goodbye!

[Shadow]

Did Orton just Orgasem when he put Y2J in that choke?

[Loose Cannon]

lol, Orton does the best chin lock ever.

[Lara Emily]

But how many past IC CHAMPS were fighting champions?

Jericho and Benoit. Hence why I don't feel the title has meant anything since those two feuded over it.

[Gone Mad]

Don't let JBL know that Edge is Mexican. But then again,Edge is less interesting.. DAMN ORTON! COME ON J! Send him to the back!

[PoisonIvy]

Moron. Benoit's from down south, and Jericho's CLEARLY form New York.

And Edge? Well, he's MExican. Can't you tell he look Mexican?
Yeah, Lara, you're smarter than that. :p

[Joe Kerr]

Triple A hates me what do you think My chances are of him letting me do a wrestling column on the main page? Think he can put his hatred aside? :-\

[Savio]

JR: We have the potential for 5 more decisions
Savior: You idiot!

[Gone Mad]

I say try it,Young Raddical. Besides no one else seems to have a column that comes every so often.

[Loose Cannon]

RKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Loose Cannon]

dam, RAW is Long

[Gone Mad]

*DAMNS ORTON ALL THE WAY TO HEELL*.. but at least this leads to RKO v. Y2J.. finally a worthwhile fued for J.

[Evil Vito]

This will probably lead to no one getting eliminated,thus a Elimination Chamber match for the title. I know,far-fetched,but damn it,there's 7 minutes!

<font color=goldenrod>*Laughs at thought of Flair in an Elimination Chamber*

He goes to to the top of the chamber, and that doesn't work either as he is promptly thrown off.</font> :rofl:

[Savio]

JR: were gonna stay with till its over...after this commercial break.

[RawRocks]

my words.. another break... Raw going overtime to make up for the commercials earlier in the evening promoting Joe Schmo 2.

[Lara Emily]

RKO= Boring.

[zach]

did orton just try to pin jericho at first?

[Savio]

Jericho and Benoit. Hence why I don't feel the title has meant anything since those two feuded over it.
RVD?

[RawRocks]

i would love to see the Elimination Chamber on Raw.

[Gone Mad]

JR: And we're back. And the match has been over for a while...Good night!

[RawRocks]

JR: Our thanks to Spike TV for allowing us to stay on the air.. we really need a good match.

[Shadow]

Good god this is a long RAW. Now we know why they only have about 4 matches. And Flair falls down for the third time.

[Kane Knight]

This is a match? I thought it was a slow-mo-train wreck.

[Joe Kerr]

WWE mustve bought more time tonight.

[RawRocks]

WWE mustve bought more time tonight.
well Spike TV took about 30 minutes promoting Joe Schmo 2 earlier

[Shadow]

Ahh....King. YOu love being a heel. Oh my god...It can't be Flair vs. Beniot and Edge.

[Kane Knight]

Only 30?

[Gone Mad]

They prob got enough time tonight,due to their ad for Joe Schmit. Or should it have be called an infomercial.

[ilt_undertaker]

This is gay. No Coach tonight :mad:

And this match is kinda borin me, but oh well, Flair is still there :)

[zach]

i have all the respect in the world for ric flair, but oh man =\

[Loose Cannon]

OH NO FUCK NO

Oh fuck Kane's gonna be a father, fuck this shit.

Ok, if Lita gives birth to a Mask, I'm turning this shit off forever.

Urger to kill Stacy rising.


WHOOOOOO, 47 minutes wasn't enough now they gotta kill more time with the HIAC.

man poor bastards who paid to be at this show live

Shut up. This show is horrible.

RKO= Boring.


I dare you to say something nice. :)

[Shadow]

Ok. Beniot's winning.

[Loose Cannon]

RKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Shadow]

No more commercial breaks? Beniot's been in a match for an hour? Wow...Royal Rumble all over again.

[zach]

ive only been posting two days, and i already love this loose cannon dude

[RawRocks]

Could we see.. Champion vs Champion at Summer Slam or Vengeance????

[Kane Knight]

TAP MOTHERFUCKER!

[Gone Mad]

Tap,RKO! TAP DAMN IT!

[zach]

what an asstastic sharpshooter

[Kane Knight]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Loose Cannon]

:foc: :foc: :foc: :foc: :foc: :foc:

[Shadow]

What'd I say? Beniot won with a Sharpshooter.

[Joe Kerr]

that wasnt even a sharpshooter :rant:

[Longshot]

WOW what a main event. havent seen anything like that since the HBK/HHH match on the last RAW of 2003. :)

[Kane Knight]

:foc: :foc: :foc: :foc: :foc: :foc:
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[Lara Emily]

I dare you to say something nice. :)
k

WHOOOOO that was awesome Orton taps like a little girl to Chris Benoit.



THERE IS A GOD!!!!!


How's that?

[I-Hate-You]

NEXT WEEK: Triple H destroys Eugene, and I will probably miss this historic match.

Damn my vacation.

[The Icon of Elisim]

Seriously Lara shut up

[Lara Emily]

what an asstastic sharpshooter


Oh bitch bitch bitch :p

[Lara Emily]

Seriously Lara shut up

Jesus you'd think I was the only one upset with tonight's show :|

[Gone Mad]

OK,now the burning question: should I go to Raw next week,which is in my area? It's still a maybe in my book.

[Mayo]

Lara is just annoyed that some great wrestling hasn't been front and centre lately, and she is venting :p

She knows her stuff, come on, she made that great Top 100 wrestlers thread ;)

[Shaggy]

Damn I loved how that Raw ended. I didnt like the fact that Orton lost but I liked how Raw actually had a main event that really didnt feel rushed and was able to stay on long. I was impressed with Flair tonight. All that time and he really still does have it in that ring. The only thing that I didnt like was that Flair never really got the win over anyone. Sure he pinned Edge but that was after the RKO from Orton. Its been forever since we have actually seen Flair beat some one with the figure 4.

I cant wait till next week. I have a feeling that Triple H is gonna job to Eugene. I cant believe they are raising him up into the heavyweight spotlight so early. I think its great and I love the comedy he brings to his matches and in his segments. Tonight had to be one of the best segments of all time..

[Longshot]

I'll admit I pretty much only saw the main even and the HHH/Eugene segment but from what I it looked like a good show. I'll probably rewatch RAW at midnight and see what I missed.

[Lara Emily]

Lara is just annoyed that some great wrestling hasn't been front and centre lately, and she is venting :p

She knows her stuff, come on, she made that great Top 100 wrestlers thread ;)
The ME was pretty good, one of the better ones in a while.

[The Icon of Elisim]

Jesus you'd think I was the only one upset with tonight's show :|

I could care less if you didn't like Raw but you are adding nothing to the discussion except for non stop bitching, its annoying

[Loose Cannon]

Well I'm happy. I got 2 RKO's tonight. That's huge.

[Lara Emily]

I could care less if you didn't like Raw but you are adding nothing to the discussion except for non stop bitching, its annoying
Meh.

[Longshot]

OK,now the burning question: should I go to Raw next week,which is in my area? It's still a maybe in my book.

I'd go in a heartbeat. Hell I went to Smackdown in a heatbeat, and its no where near as good as RAW, but it was still awesome live :)

[Lara Emily]

Well I'm happy. I got 2 RKO's tonight. That's huge.

I miss the Diamond Cutter.

[Lara Emily]

OK,now the burning question: should I go to Raw next week,which is in my area? It's still a maybe in my book.

Yeah, the shows are fun live. I've been to every show here in Ottawa since 98 and only one was what I would call bad.

[ilt_undertaker]

Raw was OK, I like the submissions that Gail used ( :roll: ), and I know that im not gonna like this Lita thing, hopefully it'll end the same way it did with SMH. And No Coach :mad:. But it was OK.

[zach]

Oh bitch bitch bitch :p

not trying to invade on your space

OH MAN, RANDY ORTON SUCKS. IM GONNA MARK OUT BECAUSE HES A BAD GUY AND I DONT LIKE HIM

[Gone Mad]

One of the better Raws in a while,besides all the commercials and Lita's pregnancy. It is the start of new fueds and stories and they all seem to be quite interesting. Great job,Spike on allowing the time for the ME. And also great job to everyone here for another great Raw thread. This thread and margaritas = Better Raw Experience.

[Lara Emily]

not trying to invade on your space

OH MAN, RANDY ORTON SUCKS. IM GONNA MARK OUT BECAUSE HES A BAD GUY AND I DONT LIKE HIM


LOL it has nothing to do with them being heels or faces :|

[ilt_undertaker]

margaritas = Better Raw Experience.

:love:

[Longshot]

yeah Ortan rules

[Gone Mad]

I've been to a show before: Raw Xmas show,2002 (whichever year it was that was the year they were building the return of HHH after his quad injury). But yea, it was a good show even if there was barely a match and watching it back on tape was abit meh. I probably go to this show,but I'll just get some cheap seats in case.

[V]

the rko is definately the best finisher on raw today

i was seriously pissed at the fact that he didn't use it on benjamin last night

[Longshot]

WEll the smackdown show I went to only had 2 backstage segments I believe and one of them was the dudley tell taker to listion to heyman so it didnt seem like a backstage segment.

[Lara Emily]

I still miss the Diamond Cutter

[Kane Knight]

One of the better Raws in a while,besides all the commercials and Lita's pregnancy. It is the start of new fueds and stories and they all seem to be quite interesting. Great job,Spike on allowing the time for the ME. And also great job to everyone here for another great Raw thread. This thread and margaritas = Better Raw Experience.
This was a fuckign weak Raw. I'm sorry.

[Lara Emily]

the rko is definately the best finisher on raw today

i was seriously pissed at the fact that he didn't use it on benjamin last night

Do you mean today as in this show, or best finisher on Raw period?

[Kane Knight]

People don't hate Randy coz he's a heel. They hate him because he's vanilla and shoved down our throats.

[Shaggy]

Well I'm happy. I got 2 RKO's tonight. That's huge.

yea that was pretty sweet. Expecially when you know the one on Jericho will end up with a match between them two down the road.

[Gone Mad]

KaneKnight, I meant to say "one of the better Raws when compared to the last 2-3 weeks".It is just that awhile for me is nearly a month. I'm horrible with numbers.

[Lara Emily]

People don't hate Randy coz he's a heel. They hate him because he's vanilla and shoved down our throats.

:y:

The RKO also has no impact. :-\

[Kane Knight]

KaneKnight, I meant to say "one of the better Raws when compared to the last 2-3 weeks".It is just that awhile for me is nearly a month. I'm horrible with numbers.
Same thing. Raw's been weak of late, but this was mega-boring, especially with only 4 matches.

[Gone Mad]

Yeah like I said,the thing that really killed it was the giant ad for Joe Schmoe. If that didn't take up the show,it would have been a better show. Then again, there would have been some other thing to bore us in its place. Never have I hated a show as much as I hate Joe Schmoe 2 right now..and it's not even on yet.

[Gerard]

Wow. The match everyone has expected: Eugene v. HHH! The match of the year pick right there.


The amazing thing is, one can actually wrestle, the other can't, and its not the alleged retard that can't. :eek:

[RGWhat316]

RAW was decent tonight. I still enjoy it better than SD especially since I got to see the ppv last night. Probably the first time in 2 years I have been able to watch a live PPV.

Anyways, opening segment was good. Looks like they are finally gonna end the HBK/HHH feud, especially when HHH said " I hope Shawn is ok". Though they hyped the HIAC as one of the most memorable matches of all time, I don't actually remember a real memorable moment from the match.

It was best they gave the main event an unexpected extra 20 minutes since they spent probably that much promoting Joe Schmo.

And, as many people predicted, Lita is gonna be freakin pregnant with Kane's kid. Why do they have to keep doing this? It will end up with Lita losing the kid, probably due to her being hit in the stomach area. Or like someone else said, she's gonna give birth to Kane's mask or something.

[Savio]

OK,now the burning question: should I go to Raw next week,which is in my area? It's still a maybe in my book.
Yes

[V]

Do you mean today as in this show, or best finisher on Raw period?

today, as in presently, not in the history of raw though, just right now, i really love the move, i even used it on friends a couple of times

it also helps that i'm 1/2 of the randy orton fan loose cannon is, which is saying a lot

[Lara Emily]

today, as in presently, not in the history of raw though, just right now, i really love the move, i even used it on friends a couple of times

it also helps that i'm 1/2 of the randy orton fan loose cannon is, which is saying a lot
Fair enough, I dsagree but fair enough.

[Kane Knight]

Incidentally, I'm a fan of Orton.

I just think that the WWE shouldn't shove him down our throats. Give him some time to actually show people how great he is, instead of forcing people, so they end up getting bored by the forcefeeding.

[Lara Emily]

Incidentally, I'm a fan of Orton.

I just think that the WWE shouldn't shove him down our throats. Give him some time to actually show people how great he is, instead of forcing people, so they end up getting bored by the forcefeeding.
I agree, now I don't think he sucks by any means it's just that he's still pretty green to me, and the RKO just doesn't do it for me, the way he does it lacks impact.

[zach]

personally, i think he's good in the ring. perfect? not by any stretch of the imagination, and on the mic, he's still way green. but give him 3-4 years, and he could easily be close to main eventing

[Lara Emily]

personally, i think he's good in the ring. perfect? not by any stretch of the imagination, and on the mic, he's still way green. but give him 3-4 years, and he could easily be close to main eventingExactly, he's 3 or 4 years away from being ready for the ME. In the ring he's not bad by any sense but he's still green there too. His mic work is ok but I agree with you that he's green there too. I just wish they weren't shoving him down everyone's throat because in the long run it's going to hurt him I think

[Kane Knight]

personally, i think he's good in the ring. perfect? not by any stretch of the imagination, and on the mic, he's still way green. but give him 3-4 years, and he could easily be close to main eventing
The problem is, he's already high up on the card. He main evented tonight, albeit with a group. He's bignews, but he's not ready to be big news.

[Innovator]

Exactly, he's 3 or 4 years away from being ready for the ME. In the ring he's not bad by any sense but he's still green there too. His mic work is ok but I agree with you that he's green there too. I just wish they weren't shoving him down everyone's throat because in the long run it's going to hrut him I think
Lara I gotta agree with you here, look at how Brock Lesnar ended up. He was pushed to the moon and got stale faster than Dark_Kane's retard gimmick. Back in the 80's and early 90's guys were built up over a period of a few years (see the Rock, HHH, Bret Hart). Nowadays fans want to see people built up quicker (see Lesnar, Orton). I prefer the older method, as you see the wrestler develop into a main eventer and be able to carry a company if need be.

[Lara Emily]

Lara I gotta agree with you here, look at how Brock Lesnar ended up. He was pushed to the moon and got stale faster than Dark_Kane's retard gimmick. Back in the 80's and early 90's guys were built up over a period of a few years (see the Rock, HHH, Bret Hart). Nowadays fans want to see people built up quicker (see Lesnar, Orton). I prefer the older method, as you see the wrestler develop into a main eventer and be able to carry a company if need be.

Yup, though I prefered Lesnar to Orton but it is very similar.

[Savio]

Sooo many stickies!

[zach]

whereas i feel his push has been bit much for someone like him, if you're going to play the "legend killer" angle, there's no way you cant build up the guy to be huge. if you dont, but still have him beat those sort of guys, it makes the "legends" look terrible. now that that idea has kind of cooled down and he seems to have fallen into a more "no one respects me" sort of gimmick, i think itll be a good way for him to slow down, learn the ropes some more, play the midcard with guys like shelton benjamin, and eventually jericho. from there on, which should be at least 2 years later, i think he'd definitely be close to main event calibur. the kid has insane potential, he's just pretty jagged around the edges right now

[#1-norm-fan]

I thought Raw was above average tonight. The HBK-Kane thing was good. I'm guessing they will feud when HBK comes back. If done right, it could be awesome. And really, I could not be more sick of Benoit. Please get that damn title off of him, Triple H! :D

[Lara Emily]

I thought Raw was above average tonight. The HBK-Kane thing was good. I'm guessing they will feud when HBK comes back. If done right, it could be awesome. And really, I could not be more sick of Benoit. Please get that damn title off of him, Triple H! :D
Benoit hasn't been given a shot to do fuck all, how can you be sick of him :|

[PoisonIvy]

Shank him, Lara. :mad:

[#1-norm-fan]

Benoit hasn't been given a shot to do fuck all, how can you be sick of him :|

I was actually sick when they started pushing him to become champ. I was a huge fan when he was putting on great matches for the IC Title. But really, I want a world champ who can do interviews, has personality, and can put himself over outside the ring. Plus he's just too heel-ish. Always with that bad guy scowl on his face and such.

GOD I miss HBK as champ!!! :(

[#1-norm-fan]

I was actually sick when they started pushing him to become champ. I was a huge fan when he was putting on great matches for the IC Title. But really, I want a world champ who can do interviews, has personality, and can put himself over outside the ring. Plus he's just too heel-ish. Always with that bad guy scowl on his face and such.

GOD I miss HBK as champ!!! :(

[Lara Emily]

I was actually sick when they started pushing him to become champ. I was a huge fan when he was putting on great matches for the IC Title. But really, I want a world champ who can do interviews, has personality, and can put himself over outside the ring. Plus he's just too heel-ish. Always with that bad guy scowl on his face and such.

GOD I miss HBK as champ!!! :(Granted Benoit is a much better heel. I just feel it's unfair to pull the plug on Benoit's reign before he even gets a chance to make the belt look good. I mean shit he's had no build up to his feuds, he hasn't mainevented a PPV yet in a match that wasn't against HHH/HBK. He's been blatantly made to look unimportant, I mean he's the damn champion and how often was he on Raw tonight oh right once in the ME match, that's it. The rest was the HHH show for the 1000th time. They aren't giving him a chance to do shit and it's pissing me off. He could put on 5 star matches againt Jericho, HBK, but instead they throw him against a guy whose been made to look like a complete fool quite a number of times in the past , in Kanw. Then add in that Kane only became the #1 contender because of HBK, in an angle to further HBK vs HHH Part 9000 (I mean shit offically Kane didn't even eliminate HHH, HBK did. Do you know how stupid that made Kane look, and how unimportant that win ends up being as a result?). Then they don't even spend more than a week or two building up the Benoit vs Kane feud and what build up they did was pretty horrific in quality. The way these shows are going right now are complete and utter bullshit.

[PoisonIvy]

Granted Benoit is a much better heel. I just feel it's unfair to pull the plug on Benoit's reign before he even gets a chance to make the belt look good. I mean shit he's had no build up to his feuds, he hasn't mainevented a PPV yet in a match that wasn't against HHH/HBK. He's been blatantly made to look unimportant, I mean he's the damn champion and how often was he on Raw tonight oh right once in the ME match, that's it. The rest was the HHH show for the 1000th time. They aren't giving him a chance to do shit and it's pissing me off. He could put on 5 star matches againt Jericho, HBK, but instead they throw him against a guy whose been made to look like a complete fool quite a number of times in the past , in Kanw. Then add in that Kane only became the #1 contender because of HBK, in an angle to further HBK vs HHH Part 9000 (I mean shit offically Kane didn't even eliminate HHH, HBK did. Do you know how stupid that made Kane look, and how unimportant that win ends up being as a result?). Then they don't even spend more than a week or two building up the Benoit vs Kane feud and what build up they did was pretty horrific in quality. The way these shows are going right now are complete and utter bullshit.
er..what she said. :D

[c4g2]

Granted Benoit is a much better heel. I just feel it's unfair to pull the plug on Benoit's reign before he even gets a chance to make the belt look good. I mean shit he's had no build up to his feuds, he hasn't mainevented a PPV yet in a match that wasn't against HHH/HBK. He's been blatantly made to look unimportant, I mean he's the damn champion and how often was he on Raw tonight oh right once in the ME match, that's it. The rest was the HHH show for the 1000th time. They aren't giving him a chance to do shit and it's pissing me off. He could put on 5 star matches againt Jericho, HBK, but instead they throw him against a guy whose been made to look like a complete fool quite a number of times in the past , in Kanw. Then add in that Kane only became the #1 contender because of HBK, in an angle to further HBK vs HHH Part 9000 (I mean shit offically Kane didn't even eliminate HHH, HBK did. Do you know how stupid that made Kane look, and how unimportant that win ends up being as a result?). Then they don't even spend more than a week or two building up the Benoit vs Kane feud and what build up they did was pretty horrific in quality. The way these shows are going right now are complete and utter bullshit.
:love:

Viva la Benoit!

[Lara Emily]

Oh and call me a whinny bitch all you want but I don't watch wrestling for the promos, or the excessive bleeding in long overdrawn, overhyped matches, I watch it for wrestling and Benoit is the best there is out there and my god he deserves better then this, he's the World Champion, not HHH, not HBK give him a fucking chance for christ sakes.

[I <3 Negros]

Oh and call me a whinny bitch all you want but I don't watch wrestling for the promos, or the excessive bleeding in long overdrawn, overhyped matches, I watch it for wrestling and Benoit is the best there is out there and my god he deserves better then this, he's the World Champion, not HHH, not HBK give him a fucking chance for christ sakes.
I for once agree with you (it's the end of time nnnnnoooooooooo). But I didn't watch a lot of it tonight I was watching this movie on the Three Stooges and the Return of the Pink Panther.

[#1-norm-fan]

Granted Benoit is a much better heel. I just feel it's unfair to pull the plug on Benoit's reign before he even gets a chance to make the belt look good. I mean shit he's had no build up to his feuds, he hasn't mainevented a PPV yet in a match that wasn't against HHH/HBK. He's been blatantly made to look unimportant, I mean he's the damn champion and how often was he on Raw tonight oh right once in the ME match, that's it. The rest was the HHH show for the 1000th time. They aren't giving him a chance to do shit and it's pissing me off. He could put on 5 star matches againt Jericho, HBK, but instead they throw him against a guy whose been made to look like a complete fool quite a number of times in the past , in Kanw. Then add in that Kane only became the #1 contender because of HBK, in an angle to further HBK vs HHH Part 9000 (I mean shit offically Kane didn't even eliminate HHH, HBK did. Do you know how stupid that made Kane look, and how unimportant that win ends up being as a result?). Then they don't even spend more than a week or two building up the Benoit vs Kane feud and what build up they did was pretty horrific in quality. The way these shows are going right now are complete and utter bullshit.

The Kane-Benoit match had a pretty bad build up, yes. However I COMPLETELY disagree about Benoit only getting TV time in the main event.

This all goes back to Benoit not having personality or mic skills. The man has amazing wrestling ability... that is all. Forcing a mic on him would only serve to make him look stupid. Instead, they let him come out for the main event to do what he's good at... wrestle. And Raw ends with him not only getting the win, but making Orton, a guy who they have spent months putting over, tap out. They are handling him PERFECTLY. If they wanna put him over as champ (And I don't think they should but, whatever) then they need to do it in the ring.

[#1-norm-fan]

Oh and call me a whinny bitch all you want but I don't watch wrestling for the promos, or the excessive bleeding in long overdrawn, overhyped matches, I watch it for wrestling and Benoit is the best there is out there and my god he deserves better then this, he's the World Champion, not HHH, not HBK give him a fucking chance for christ sakes.

I'm as much of a purist as they get. Great wrestling is what it's all about. But when it comes down to it, I want to be into the characters who are wrestling and actually be able to feel some emotion coming from the match. With the face Benoit, you get none of that because his character is just not likeable.

[Lara Emily]

I'm as much of a purist as they get. Great wrestling is what it's all about. But when it comes down to it, I want to be into the characters who are wrestling and actually be able to feel some emotion coming from the match. With the face Benoit, you get none of that because his character is just not likeable.

I find his intense focus to be quite likeable.

[c4g2]

In EWR, Benoit is listed as "No gimmick needed"

Here it is...

"This wrestler doesn't need a fancy gimmick, he just wants to go out and kick some ass. Eg. Chris Benoit" - EWR

I think it suits Benoit perfectly...

[#1-norm-fan]

It's too bad-guyish though. Plus when he gets all intense and the veins in his neck start popping out... bit annoying.

[I <3 Negros]

I think he should just go back to the cold killing machine heel. It's what he works best at, though he is likable as a face but I have a feeling once he loses the underdog gimmick he'll get stale quickly.

[Lara Emily]

The Kane-Benoit match had a pretty bad build up, yes. However I COMPLETELY disagree about Benoit only getting TV time in the main event.

This all goes back to Benoit not having personality or mic skills. The man has amazing wrestling ability... that is all. Forcing a mic on him would only serve to make him look stupid. Instead, they let him come out for the main event to do what he's good at... wrestle. And Raw ends with him not only getting the win, but making Orton, a guy who they have spent months putting over, tap out. They are handling him PERFECTLY. If they wanna put him over as champ (And I don't think they should but, whatever) then they need to do it in the ring.

See personally, his promos aren't always that bad, his promo right after WM was awesome, his promo at WM was great too. I'm not talking about giving him the mic and having him talk for twenty minutes, I'm talking about having him be there, acknowledge that this guy exists. I mean fuck HHH couldn't even refer to him by name :|. He made him seem irrelvant. Have Benoit be an in your face physical champion not afraid to take on anyone. Do something. Hey I'm not complaining about how the ME ended, that's a start that was postitive, but still they made a good chunk of show about HHH with barely a mention of Benoit.

He needs to be the focus, and again I'm not talking promos, do small vignettes, have him fight off attacks from his challengers, hell have him defend the title twice in one night or something, whatever, but make it so that he looks credible, not just a footnote in the record books in between HHH reigns.

[#1-norm-fan]

I think he could be built up pretty well as a heel. I got my hopes up that he would turn after the match with HBK on Raw.

[Lara Emily]

It's too bad-guyish though. Plus when he gets all intense and the veins in his neck start popping out... bit annoying.
I like that, that's fire, that's intensity. Passion, these are things Benoit represent. Not every champion needs to be a mic worker, let Benoit do what he does best, wrestle and do it in a way so that he actually looks important.

[Lara Emily]

I think he could be built up pretty well as a heel. I got my hopes up that he would turn after the match with HBK on Raw.I fully agree, Turn him heel but do it while he's champion.


Or better yet, turn him into a guy who will take on anyone, face or heel, turn him into a guy who needs no one and wants no one, a lone wrecking force. He's the perfect person to be a silent killer who kills both faces and heel equally.

[#1-norm-fan]

See personally, his promos aren't always that bad, his promo right after WM was awesome, his promo at WM was great too. I'm not talking about giving him the mic and having him talk for twenty minutes, I'm talking about having him be there, acknowledge that this guy exists. I mean fuck HHH couldn't even refer to him by name :|. He made him seem irrelvant. Have Benoit be an in your face physical champion not afraid to take on anyone. Do something. Hey I'm not complaining about how the ME ended, that's a start that was postitive, but still they made a good chunk of show about HHH with barely a mention of Benoit.

He needs to be the focus, and again I'm not talking promos, do small vignettes, have him fight off attacks from his challengers, hell have him defend the title twice in one night or something, whatever, but make it so that he looks credible, not just a footnote in the record books in between HHH reigns.

I dunno... I don't think Triple H calling him "The champ" made him look bad. It's a compliment if you ask me.

How any human being enjoyed Benoit's speech after WrestleMania is beyond me. (I may be getting it mixed up with his speech after Backlash. One of them was abysmal though.)

I dunno about him being the focus though. Displaying his character probably isn't a good idea. Letting him wrestle the main event and look good is the way to go. No need to over-do it. If he finishes off Raw every week by winning the main event, that should be fine.

[#1-norm-fan]

I fully agree, Turn him heel but do it while he's champion.


Or better yet, turn him into a guy who will take on anyone, face or heel, turn him into a guy who needs no one and wants no one, a lone wrecking force. He's the perfect person to be a silent killer who kills both faces and heel equally.

They should also give him a manager. Kinda like the "He's the only man who can control him" type manager.

[Lara Emily]

They should also give him a manager. Kinda like the "He's the only man who can control him" type manager.A manager would have been good, back on SD, I'd have put him with Heyman. As it stands though there's no one to put him with and it's too late. The bottom line is Benoit (and as a result the championship belt) has been made to look like just an afterthought. Of course the WWE will not acknowledge this and merely claim he just couldn't run with the ball and that'll justify putting the belt back on HHH.

[Lara Emily]

I dunno... I don't think Triple H calling him "The champ" made him look bad. It's a compliment if you ask me.

How any human being enjoyed Benoit's speech after WrestleMania is beyond me. (I may be getting it mixed up with his speech after Backlash. One of them was abysmal though.)

I dunno about him being the focus though. Displaying his character probably isn't a good idea. Letting him wrestle the main event and look good is the way to go. No need to over-do it. If he finishes off Raw every week by winning the main event, that should be fine.
It was in the tone, your buddy the world champion, is a backhanded compliment at best.

His promo after WM where he and HHH faced off in the ring and then Benoit decked him was great.

See his character is a silent, agreesive, talented wrestler, let him show that, like in as I said in multiple defences from time to time. Have Jr and King really put over that this guy is the best there is right now, and stop making HHH the focus of every show.

[#1-norm-fan]

Johnny Nitro could manage him as a heel.

I don't really think it's too late though. I can almost garuntee Benoit will be main eventing next month's PPV since I doubt any match they could make now would be big enough to push the World Title match out of it's spot.

[Lara Emily]

Johnny Nitro could manage him as a heel.

I don't really think it's too late though. I can almost garuntee Benoit will be main eventing next month's PPV since I doubt any match they could make now would be big enough to push the World Title match out of it's spot.It needs to be a credible manager, Nitro is cool but not overly credible.

Oh no doubt but for all we know it could end up being against HHH. Or they could put him into some tag match

[#1-norm-fan]

Nah. HHH-Benoit will probably be saved for Summer Slam.

I think Benoit is either going to face Orton or Edge next month. No clue what Triple H will be doing.

[c4g2]

Make Benoit a 'fighting' champion. Like Lara said, have him defend the title regularly, and let him rack up some convincing wins over credible opponents. Ta-dah! Benoit gets over, title gets over.

[#1-norm-fan]

Or even better for a manager... what about Chris Nowinski? He's supposed to come back soon in a non-wrestling role from what I've heard. And he's got the personality to get over really fast. Plus, since Nowinski is the man, I would be forced to love Benoit by association.

[#1-norm-fan]

Make Benoit a 'fighting' champion. Like Lara said, have him defend the title regularly, and let him rack up some convincing wins over credible opponents. Ta-dah! Benoit gets over, title gets over.

That's what they're doing. He beat HHH and HBK cleanly 2 months in a row making both of them tap out. Doesn't get much more credible than that. Not to mention the whole two matches in one night thing.

[Lara Emily]

Or even better for a manager... what about Chris Nowinski? He's supposed to come back soon in a non-wrestling role from what I've heard. And he's got the personality to get over really fast. Plus, since Nowinski is the man, I would be forced to love Benoit by association.

No, crediblity is a must you cannot just throw a low carder into a managerial role of the World's Champion. Heyman is and remains the best option. Really the only option, unless they bring back Jim Cornette :D

[#1-norm-fan]

OMG, where the F is Cornette??? GENIUS!

[Lara Emily]

That's what they're doing. He beat HHH and HBK cleanly 2 months in a row making both of them tap out. Doesn't get much more credible than that. Not to mention the whole two matches in one night thing.
They are doing somethings right yes, but then they take focus away from Benoit also, I mean hell part of WM XX turned into HHH vs HBK again. Through out it was still a large part about HHH vs HBK.

[c4g2]

That's what they're doing. He beat HHH and HBK cleanly 2 months in a row making both of them tap out. Doesn't get much more credible than that. Not to mention the whole two matches in one night thing.
Yeah I know, but the whole 3 way dance feud was about HHH and HBK. All the shit about "HHH and HBK have another chance to regain the title and show who's more superior". Benoit was just another guy conveniently holding the championship for them to take, thank you very much. There wasn't much focus on Benoit's first PPV defence of the title.

And the tag title thing is just ridiculous. The tag division is in shambles (as noted by almost everyone here). Edge is returning! Benoit needs some credibility! Quick-fix: Give them the titles! :roll: La Resistance winning the titles was the best thing to happen to it, IMO. It just seemed ridiculous that Benoit would go for 2 titles, when it was so obvious that his feud with Kane was non-existant.

[Lara Emily]

OMG, where the F is Cornette??? GENIUS!

Hell you wanna really get Benoit over if he ever turns heel have a bunch of manager vie for him: Cornette (if you can get him), Heyman, etc...

[#1-norm-fan]

But in a way, if you say the triple threats with HBK and HHH were all about building the HHH and HBK feud, doesn't the fact that he beat them both cleanly in consecutive months kinda say he is bigger than them and their feud?

[Lara Emily]

But in a way, if you say the triple threats with HBK and HHH were all about building the HHH and HBK feud, doesn't the fact that he beat them both cleanly in consecutive months kinda say he is bigger than them and their feud?

Not really, you'd think that, but the way they began to build HHH vs HBK at Bad Blood, and just the whole general deal with Kane and the battle royale all of it made HHH vs HBK more important. HHH vs HBK became the focus and thus Benoit became an afterthought.

[Joe Kerr]

Oh and call me a whinny bitch all you want but I don't watch wrestling for the promos, or the excessive bleeding in long overdrawn, overhyped matches, I watch it for wrestling and Benoit is the best there is out there and my god he deserves better then this, he's the World Champion, not HHH, not HBK give him a fucking chance for christ sakes.


Vince has to go for what sells and entertains. Benoit is a great wrestler but on the mic he is boring. Benoit isn't that entertaining.

[c4g2]

Just let Benoit and the WWE run its course. The ratings will prove who is right :D

[Kane Knight]

Benoit is boring. As opposed to that entertaining chap Triple H.

[Lara Emily]

Vince has to go for what sells and entertains. Benoit is a great wrestler but on the mic he is boring. Benoit isn't that entertaining.

Right and HHH sells? And is entertaining, not really no.

[Back Stabbed]

Right and HHH sells? And is entertaining, not really no.
But benoit isn't entertaining you have to admit

[Lara Emily]

But benoit isn't entertaining you have to admit

No I don't :| He puts on awesome matches, that's entertaining.

[Innovator]

But benoit isn't entertaining you have to admit
you must be deaf, because Benoit is pulling one of the loudest pops on RAW

[loopydate]

I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating someone else's opinions.

I really dug Triple H tonight. It was the rare RAW that reminded me of why he used to be one of the best in the business. The Highlight Reel was the most entertaining I've seen Hunter in months, and I hope they have a good plan for Monday's match.

Who would have thought it would take Nick Dinsmore playing a retard to bring out the best in the Game?

[Back Stabbed]

No I don't :| He puts on awesome matches....
With the right people

[Joe Kerr]

Right and HHH sells? And is entertaining, not really no.
as Much as you hate to admit it HHH does sell. Triple H is one of the best wrestlers and that isnt just my opionon. Wrestlers that work with Hunter express how safe they feel in the ring with him. HHH is by far the best heel. he can draw heat, he doesnt suck on the mic and he actually knows how to wrestle.

[Lara Emily]

With the right people

With pretty much anyone who isn't named Billy Gunn :|

[Lara Emily]

as Much as you hate to admit it HHH does sell. Triple H is one of the best wrestlers and that isnt just my opionon. Wrestlers that work with Hunter express how safe they feel in the ring with him. HHH is by far the best heel. he can draw heat, he doesnt suck on the mic and he actually knows how to wrestle.

:wtf: what the fuck?

His mic work is nothing anymore, his ring work is even less, I have not seen one quote about peopel feeling safe with Hunter (what that has to do with anything is beyond me), he doesn't draw (not since 2000 when he was actually good), so no I don't have to admit anything. HHH does not sell.

[Lara Emily]

I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating someone else's opinions.

I really dug Triple H tonight. It was the rare RAW that reminded me of why he used to be one of the best in the business. The Highlight Reel was the most entertaining I've seen Hunter in months, and I hope they have a good plan for Monday's match.

Who would have thought it would take Nick Dinsmore playing a retard to bring out the best in the Game?
I have to agree, the Highlight Reel was quite a decent segement. Stongest Trips has been IMO since 2000, but I doubt this is a sign of thngs to come.

[Joe Kerr]

:wtf: what the fuck?

His mic work is nothing anymore, his ring work is even less, I have not seen one quote about peopel feeling safe with Hunter (what that has to do with anything is beyond me), he doesn't draw (not since 2000 when he was actually good), so no I don't have to admit anything. HHH does not sell.


I beleive you should then go back and watch the Mania of Wrestlemania.....I hate when you respond to things that your "Guessing" about.. Kurt Angle had a match with Brock Lesnar and Angles neck was botherng him. He stated he would feel a lot safer in the ring with HHH. Other wrestlers backstage have also commented that Hunter is one of the safest wrestlers out there.
Hiac was by far the best match at Bad Blood and HHH and HBK drew that crowd in. You didnt watch it so you cant complain about it or argue other wise. I suggest you rent or buy the DVD when it comes out then make a argument.

[Joe Kerr]

:wtf: what the fuck?

His mic work is nothing anymore, his ring work is even less, I have not seen one quote about peopel feeling safe with Hunter (what that has to do with anything is beyond me), he doesn't draw (not since 2000 when he was actually good), so no I don't have to admit anything. HHH does not sell.


on a side not its not neccesary to say What the fu</>ck while using the WTF icon :p

[Lara Emily]

I beleive you should then go back and watch the Mania of Wrestlemania.....I hate when you respond to things that your "Guessing" about.. Kurt Angle had a match with Brock Lesnar and Angles neck was botherng him. He stated he would feel a lot safer in the ring with HHH. Other wrestlers backstage have also commented that Hunter is one of the safest wrestlers out there.
Hiac was by far the best match at Bad Blood and HHH and HBK drew that crowd in. You didnt watch it so you cant complain about it or argue other wise. I suggest you rent or buy the DVD when it comes out then make a argument.

Link to the comments please?

I can aruge when I get a full pbp of every move. Both the Kane vs Benoit match and especially Orton vs Bejamin stuck me as better matches.

[Lara Emily]

on a side not its not neccesary to say What the fu</>ck while using the WTF icon :p
It's called emphasis.