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Mister Sinister
09-09-2004, 12:35 AM
Well, Finally Christian day is over-with, and he did quite, well pulling in a Top 10 Performance with a 83, which will Knock Rey Mysterio out of the Top 10...

Anyways, Today Wrestler is the 17 Time? World Heavyweight Champion and one of the most well known names in the history of Professional Wrestling in Ric Flair, As we all know, there is a little fued going on with Flair and current number 1 ranked Bret Hart, about the Comments made by Flair to Hart in his book. Will Hart be able to hold off the challenge of the Nature Boy, or will Flair prove that his comments were true by knocking the Hitman out of number 1 after 18 days?


Day 1: Bret Hart (96)
Day 2: Chris Jericho (91)
Day 3: Rob Van Dam (78)
Day 4: Diamond Dallas Page (80)
Day 5: Low Ki (73)
Day 6: A.J Styles (89)
Day 7 : Rey Mysterio Jr. (81)
Day 8: Owen Hart (95)
Day 9: Ultimo Dragon (84)
Day 10: Raven (87)
Day 11: "British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (84)
Day 12: The Hurricane (76)
Day 13: Brian Pillman (92)
Day 14: John Bradshaw Leyfield (46)
Day 15: Taz (82)
Day 16: Bob "Hardcore" Holly (34)
Day 17: Christian (83)

Current Top 10 Leaderboard
1. Bret Hart (96)
2. Owen Hart (95)
3. Brian Pillman (92)
4. Chris Jericho (91)
5. AJ Styles (89)
6. Raven (87)
t7. "British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (84)
t7. Ultimo Dragon (84)
9. Christian (83)
10. Taz (82)

Tomorrow Rate The Wrestler, Will be The NWA-TNA World Champion, Jeff Jarrett

ATTENTION VOTERS: From now on, all exaggerated low votes will be deleted and not counted towards the wrestler's final rating. Theoretically, the only way to get a 1 rating is to be a mute quadriplegic. The only way this event can continue to be successful is if we keep our votes reasonably objective. So let's not go overboard with the "I hate this ugy, he gets 1" anymore, and happy voting. - Funky

DaveWadding
09-09-2004, 12:36 AM
10

HeartBreakMan2k
09-09-2004, 12:36 AM
9.34

Splaya
09-09-2004, 12:37 AM
Flair is a 9.8 The charisma, the world titles, everything. The only thing is is that he doesn't have the ring skills he had back in the day, now.

V
09-09-2004, 12:37 AM
woulda been 9.5 before his book

but fuck him, i give him a low 7 for being a dick

Mayo
09-09-2004, 12:43 AM
9

Hired Hitman
09-09-2004, 12:44 AM
9.5 great wrestler back in the day, but I think he should stop wrestling soon and become an announcer (play by play) "and Triple H gets a sleeper hold on Randy Orton, WHOOOOO" (L) .. uh.. anyway I still give him a 9.5 he is staying around and wrestling with the guys while he is way older, he is still entertaining.. but not as much obviously.

Head
09-09-2004, 01:08 AM
9.8

Nark Order
09-09-2004, 01:08 AM
10

FakeLaser
09-09-2004, 01:48 AM
10

Bad Company
09-09-2004, 01:54 AM
9.5

asphyXy
09-09-2004, 02:08 AM
7.4

CYCLOPTERSAURUS
09-09-2004, 02:25 AM
I really think Flair is vastly overrated. His matches are so repetitive, he's a horrible brown-noser, and he damn sure shouldn't be wrestling now. He wasn't bad in his prime, but many points off for the above. He does have charisma, and the crowds love him though.

6.8

mike616
09-09-2004, 02:28 AM
He was and will always be the man :8.0 there is a penalty for being a dick.

BigDaddyCool
09-09-2004, 02:42 AM
10, I don't care he if he is a dick. As much as he has been overrated, he has put up with some absolute shit angles in WCW, and I think he is featured in more wrestle craps than most anyone else.

Innovator
09-09-2004, 02:49 AM
7.5, all his matches repeat nowadays

BigDaddyCool
09-09-2004, 02:55 AM
7.5, all his matches repeat nowadays

So are Chris Beniot's.

Gone Mad
09-09-2004, 03:12 AM
8.5, he has had a long and successful career that is still going, despite now not being as great a wrestler that he was back in the days. But at least the guy can still put on a show (at least in a promo sense) and of course don't forget.. WHOOOOO!

Aussie Skier
09-09-2004, 03:23 AM
its funny, even for an older man, he can still have really excellent matches, esspeically with a decent wrestler. i never saw alot of him in his prime, but, anywayz

i'll still give him an 8.5

Funky Fly
09-09-2004, 04:09 AM
Ring ability: 8.5
Overness: 10
Work rate: 10
Politics: 2
Mic skill: 10
Overall rank: 8.1

He's lucky I'm being objective with my ratings.

Supermark101
09-09-2004, 04:26 AM
7.5, all his matches repeat nowadays


who's arn't

10

LK
09-09-2004, 04:27 AM
8.9 WHOOOOOO!

Sephiroth
09-09-2004, 05:47 AM
9.5

Cruiserweight 3:16
09-09-2004, 06:33 AM
10 - he may be a prick for the things he's said and done, but his commitment to the business and his ability is exceptional

Disturbed316
09-09-2004, 06:40 AM
9

Evil Vito
09-09-2004, 06:57 AM
<font color=goldenrod>10, and my personal pick for greatest wrestler of all time, I personally don't think that ANYBODY (Bret Hart included) could hold a candle to Flair in his prime.</font>

The Fugitive
09-09-2004, 07:02 AM
1.

CosaNostra
09-09-2004, 07:06 AM
6.5

It would have been higher (8.5) because he is a supremely talented ring psychologist and I like his move sets. However, ever see his massive amounts of "self disqualification-but-retain" title defenses when he was NWA champion? What, did he think he was entitled to be champion all the time and never do a job? And now he is wrestling WAY past his prime and is little more than a joke now. He is becoming the jobber of Evolution. His asshole politics irritate me. His book pissed on people who gave just as much to this industry as he did; if not more.

It annoys me greatly that he is going to pass Bret Hart. :nono:

HankScorpio
09-09-2004, 07:24 AM
meh, before he became a cranky old bitch 9.5, now that I'm bored of his "big back body drop" & "knife edge chops" 7

Evil Vito
09-09-2004, 07:40 AM
1.

<font color=goldenrod>WTF. Don't count that.</font>

tazmaster
09-09-2004, 07:45 AM
10

blueskies
09-09-2004, 08:44 AM
8.5

Xero
09-09-2004, 09:18 AM
8

That seems to be my favorite number :shifty:

wwe is neat
09-09-2004, 09:22 AM
10

SuperSlim
09-09-2004, 09:35 AM
I'll give him a 8. woulda been higher but you don't blast people in books like that and when all you can do is take back body drops left and right it gets a little boring.

and if we are doin the NWA-TNA champ then we must be doin Jeff Jarrett since he won. man I can't wait to rip on him. :D

The Fugitive
09-09-2004, 09:57 AM
I don't see why it shouldn't be counted. He may be a 17-time World Champion and he may be one of the best at cutting a promo, but he's a joke that should have retired 10 years ago, at least from active wrestling. His desire to keep wrestling even though he's past his prime is all it takes for me to give me a 1.

Although now I think about it, because he did that 'mental hospital' angle, that 1 can be a 5.

Fryza
09-09-2004, 10:00 AM
10.

We're rating the wrestler, not the person. And Flair is one of the best wrestlers ever.

This is like, three straight tens..

SuperSlim
09-09-2004, 10:37 AM
10.

We're rating the wrestler, not the person. And Flair is one of the best wrestlers ever.

This is like, three straight tens..

you can rate the wrestler all ya want but you can't deny the person either... the person makes the wrestler.

Savio
09-09-2004, 11:41 AM
1 all of his matches are repeat. He is a kiss ass and a piss break for me.
and you have to count it because I explained why

Mister Sinister
09-09-2004, 12:03 PM
Note, I'm am going to do everything twice here, the White Text will be the current Flair and the Red Text will be the Old Flair..however I'm only doing this for Ring Ability

Ring Ability/Workrate: 7.2 (Sure he is repeatived and a shell of his former self, but however his matches can still be entertaining, I laugh my ass off as his old man flops and his eye pokes out of nowhere)

Ring Ability/Workrate: 8.6 (I can see why the man was called a great wrestler back in the eighties, When I bought the Ric Flair Collection, I throught I was going to be bored off my ass watching his older matches, but I was rather suprised.

Character/Mic Skills: 9.5 (The Man is a motivater, a con man, a superstar, and a man who could be our next president, okay I won't go that far, but hell, if he ran for President, I would proberly actually watch his debates and stuff, since it would be Entertaining as hell, The Ric Flair Character, is cocky as hell and well...is what wrestling should kinda be....Entertaining

Overness: 10 (The Guy is proberly the most common name, this side of Hulk Hogan when you use the word Wrestling....17 Time Champion, He is a legend....despite the fact he is a prick, but however I don't use things said in his book against him)

Protental: N/A (I won't count this, since when I made theses subject, I was really having them in mind for younger Wrestlers, not one past there prime and well, no offense Ric, I don't think you have anymore protental..but that's not a bad thing consider all the things you're done for the business

Finisher: 7.5 ( I hate Figure 4 Leglocks to be honest with you, I think it's the most overrated Finisher ever made....however for Flair I draw a line, there is something about when he does it, that looks great, I don't know if it's the Mannerism, The Faces? I don't know, but I love Flair's Figure 4

80's - Early 90's Flair: 8.9
Today's Flair: 8.6

Ric Flair Score is 87.5...which is rounded off to 8.8

Loose Cannon
09-09-2004, 12:09 PM
I don't want to do this, but whatever.

9.2

Mike the Metal Ed
09-09-2004, 12:10 PM
7

Mister Sinister
09-09-2004, 12:12 PM
1 all of his matches are repeat. He is a kiss ass and a piss break for me.
and you have to count it because I explained why

You're Right...I have to count it, but personally, I think you're being a little too hard on Ric....can you atleast raise it a little bit, since this is how I view things

1-God Awful, No Talent, Charisma, or Overness at all
2.Pretty Damn Terrible, very little talent at all, No Charisma, Barely Over
3. very Little Charisma, Slightly Over, Crappy Talent
4. Is Slightly Below Average in Talent, Charisma and Overness
5. Just Average Wrestling Skills
6. Average Wrestling Skills, But Loaded With Charisma
7. Above Average Wrestling Skills, But Lacking In Charisma
8. A Above Average Mix of everything needed for a great Wrestler
9. Amazing Talent, Great Mic Skills!
10. They should consider changing there name to God...because that's what they are to wrestling

so if you're willing to Reconsider and use this scale for future basing...please do so, since I wants everyone accurate Opinion on wrestlers, and not what they come up with off there head or just based on Like/Hate

Savio
09-09-2004, 12:24 PM
He's the only one I dislike more then bret

Eunos
09-09-2004, 12:55 PM
8

Savio
09-09-2004, 12:56 PM
well maybe holly also.

Rob
09-09-2004, 01:24 PM
9

King Jericho
09-09-2004, 01:43 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

9.

Mortis45
09-09-2004, 01:47 PM
7

Joe Kerr
09-09-2004, 04:05 PM
8.5 He may be one of the few men that helped mold wrestling into what it is but nowadays his matches are repeatitive.


http://raw.wwe.com/superstars/flair_r/images/flair1.jpg

Hardkore Kidd J
09-09-2004, 05:03 PM
9.5

Blue Demon
09-09-2004, 05:18 PM
8.5...loses points for being a jerk towards Bret and is now way past his prime.....but there's no denying what he has done for the "sport"

Funky Fly
09-09-2004, 06:07 PM
uOk, I'm not going to delete the 1 votes just yet. I'll give you all an opportunity to re-vote in place of your old votes. Again, we need to be more reasonable about our ratings if this is going to continue.

Disturbed316
09-09-2004, 06:12 PM
uOk, I'm not going to delete the 1 votes just yet. I'll give you all an opportunity to re-vote in place of your old votes. Again, we need to be more reasonable about our ratings if this is going to continue.

Why?

Thats how they feel about him, if they feel he deserves a one, then they should be allowed to vote a one.

Just because other people think its wrong doesn't mean it shouldn't be counted (even though Flair no way deserves a one)

Supermark101
09-09-2004, 06:18 PM
Why?

Thats how they feel about him, if they feel he deserves a one, then they should be allowed to vote a one.

Just because other people think its wrong doesn't mean it shouldn't be counted (even though Flair no way deserves a one)


I agree, he explained why he gave Flair a 1. That should be good enough.

Kapoutman
09-09-2004, 06:22 PM
Right now, Flair would not even get a 6 from me, but since we are rating the whole career of the guy (I think), I have to give him a 8. His previous matches/angles in the 80's/90's were about 9 to 10 on overall(entertainment, not just wrestling), but his stuff now is simply entertaining and not great wrestling wise.

Overall: 8

Funky Fly
09-09-2004, 06:31 PM
I was asked by Helmsphere to give a hand with this issue. His game, his rules. He can opt not to count clearly biased votes if he wants. I will just give a hand with removal of 1 votes.

And there is bias in those one votes. Nobody agreed with Herb Masta when he was giving out 1s and 2s to good wrestlers, but people are defending Savior now that he is the one giving out a 1. As much as I dislike Flair's 2-facedness, brown-nosing and politics, I gave him a good rating. I almost hate the guy for the whole issue with Bret Hart and Mick Foley, but I do recognize good wrestling when I see it. And if you call any one wrestler repetitive, you have to accept the fact that ALL wrestlers are repetitive to some degree, unless their entire moveset changes every time they step in the ring.

Disturbed316
09-09-2004, 06:34 PM
I was asked by Helmsphere to give a hand with this issue. His game, his rules. He can opt not to count clearly biased votes if he wants. I will just give a hand with removal of 1 votes.

And there is bias in those one votes. Nobody agreed with Herb Masta when he was giving out 1s and 2s to good wrestlers, but people are defending Savior now that he is the one giving out a 1. As much as I dislike Flair's 2-facedness, brown-nosing and politics, I gave him a good rating. I almost hate the guy for the whole issue with Bret Hart and Mick Foley, but I do recognize good wrestling when I see it. And if you call any one wrestler repetitive, you have to accept the fact that ALL wrestlers are repetitive to some degree, unless their entire moveset changes every time they step in the ring.

But aren't all the votes biased? Think about it.....

BTW I'm not defending Savior, just stating that it was his opinion to give Flair a 1, and isn't this what this game is about? Our opinions on the wrestlers?

Mister Sinister
09-09-2004, 07:50 PM
But aren't all the votes biased? Think about it.....

BTW I'm not defending Savior, just stating that it was his opinion to give Flair a 1, and isn't this what this game is about? Our opinions on the wrestlers?

Okay, I did ask Funky to help me out, since I felt some people were being a little unfair...I admit, some wrestler sucks, but do they really logically deserve 1 and 2? I mean while Bradshaw and Hardcore Holly are shitty Wrestlers, they would admit deserve 3's logically speaking, since they have basic to below average Wrestling Ability....

Of course, this poll isn't just based on Wrestling Ability, it's based on all aspects of Wrestling, being Ability, Overness, Charisma...etc

Joyrider
09-09-2004, 08:27 PM
10

Took
09-09-2004, 08:37 PM
7.6

MVP
09-09-2004, 09:42 PM
9 1/2

Savio
09-10-2004, 12:55 AM
10
10. They should consider changing there name to God...because that's what they are to wrestling :wtf:
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Um right If we are complaining about ones saying thats not the right answer to give some one then what is? Its called "rate the wrestler" not "rate the wrestler around the score most people give him".....Basically its your opinion of the wrestler.

Mister Sinister
09-10-2004, 01:01 AM
:wtf:
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Um right If we are complaining about ones saying thats not the right answer to give some one then what is? Its called "rate the wrestler" not "rate the wrestler around the score most people give him".....Basically its your opinion of the wrestler.

So, you're saying, Flair is good at nothing Wrestling Wise?

Savio
09-10-2004, 01:06 AM
Yes he no sells, boring, hell I could do what he does.

Mister Sinister
09-10-2004, 01:09 AM
Yes he no sells, boring, hell I could do what he does.

You know Ric Flair is the guy with the Red Tights, Blonde Hair, Man Boobs, and Woo's all the time, and not a guy with black hair and a Cowboy hat?

Anyways, Voting Close, So Down the shop Funky or someone

Savio
09-10-2004, 01:14 AM
Getting punched, walking, then air boxing, flop= no sell....so are you counting my vote?

Mister Sinister
09-10-2004, 01:16 AM
Getting punched, walking, then air boxing, flop= no sell....so are you counting my vote?

I already said I had to count it, no matter how much I disagree with it, hell would of even settled with you giving him a three, but 1 it is

DaveWadding
09-10-2004, 03:38 AM
Don't worry about it, dude. Paul the Wall is as dumb as his nickname implies.

Funky Fly
09-10-2004, 04:43 AM
Alright then. Disregard earlier statements about votes not being counted. However, I urge you to be reasonable about voting.

*closes up shop*