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The Miz
09-30-2004, 10:15 PM
CAST YR VOTES

BCWWF
09-30-2004, 10:36 PM
Mmmm...I choose Darryl May...

Its funny because Johan wasn't even an all-star. His first half wasn't all star caliber and he still ended up with 20 wins, sub 2 era, 300+ K's, sub 200 opp batting ave. Damn. Just don't choke in the playoffs.

Loose Cannon
09-30-2004, 10:39 PM
Santana. Done. Enough said.

Gertner
09-30-2004, 11:31 PM
I guess the fact that Hentgan didn't play in the second half got him disqualified eh?

Jesus Shuttlesworth
10-01-2004, 12:38 AM
Santana with Schilling in 2nd Mulder in 3rd

BCWWF
10-01-2004, 12:53 AM
Lol, somebody voted for Pedro

DegenerationY
10-01-2004, 01:06 AM
Definitely has to be Santana. No question about it.

Supreme Olajuwon
10-01-2004, 01:31 AM
easiest of all of them

Azriel
10-01-2004, 03:09 AM
Santana. Done. Enough said.
What he said

John la Rock
10-01-2004, 04:05 AM
Schilling

VonErich Lives
10-01-2004, 04:08 AM
Went Schill on this... touch call, Santana has has a great year... best 2nd half of any pitcher better... but was watching a breakdown of teams faced, as the Sox faced better teams then Minnesota...

How it broke down for each player I didn't see, but I can look into later.

YOUR Hero
10-01-2004, 11:19 AM
Still saying Santana, but Schilling is really been great down the stretch.

BCWWF
10-01-2004, 01:15 PM
Schilling had some of those random stats, like "Most wins coming off a Red Sox loss" and stuff..I dunno I read that in Gammons' column.

I still want to know who these guys voting for Pedro are?

MVP
10-01-2004, 03:01 PM
As a Red Sox fan I'd pick Schilling, but Santana deserves it more.

Yashamaga
10-01-2004, 04:16 PM
As a Red Sox fan, I picked Santana.

You just can't argue. Any other year it would have been Curt's :(

The Miz
10-02-2004, 02:32 PM
Went Schill on this... touch call, Santana has has a great year... best 2nd half of any pitcher better... but was watching a breakdown of teams faced, as the Sox faced better teams then Minnesota...

How it broke down for each player I didn't see, but I can look into later.
How about the stat that Curt Schilling gets almost 7 runs of support per start, by far and away the league's most

Ol Dirty Dastard
10-02-2004, 02:35 PM
I can never take any analysis VEL does seriously. He's always trying too hard to be a devil's advocate.

VonErich Lives
10-02-2004, 06:34 PM
How about the stat that Curt Schilling gets almost 7 runs of support per start, by far and away the league's most

Doesn't matter since I don't factor wins into the stats...

I factor what a pitcher controls, ERA, Hits, Walks, K's, pitching stats...

wins are nice, saying you have a 20 game winner is nice... But who would you rather have...

20-2 4.58 ERA
8-12 2.12 ERA

2nd guy just looks like a great pitcher on a bad team.

VonErich Lives
10-02-2004, 06:34 PM
I can never take any analysis VEL does seriously. He's always trying too hard to be a devil's advocate.

Example?

The Miz
10-02-2004, 06:47 PM
Doesn't matter since I don't factor wins into the stats...

I factor what a pitcher controls, ERA, Hits, Walks, K's, pitching stats...

wins are nice, saying you have a 20 game winner is nice... But who would you rather have...

20-2 4.58 ERA
8-12 2.12 ERA

2nd guy just looks like a great pitcher on a bad team.
WTF? You'd take the second guy. 1st guy is a below average pitcher on an outstanding team, 2nd guy is an outstanding pitcher on a below average team. If I'm building a team I'd obviously rather have the second guy.

If the Twins and Red Sox flip flopped the runs they scored for Schilling and Santana, it'd be interesting to see the records. I can assure you Santana would have in the neighborhood of 10 more wins than Schilling.

Evil Vito
10-02-2004, 07:51 PM
<font color=goldenrod>Santana, EASILY</font>