Official No Mercy 2004 thread

[Innovator]

this is hopefully where Taker fully returns as the real deadman with the ministry to take on Ivan Drago.....I mean Heidi....and how did he get busted up so mch???
usually when you crash into another car like that, you get banged up

[The CyNick]

this is hopefully where Taker fully returns as the real deadman with the ministry to take on Ivan Drago.....I mean Heidi....and how did he get busted up so mch???

Why would Taker need a faction to beat one guy?

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

yup

[The Answer]

so JBL retains?

Unfortunately Yes :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

[Funky Fly]

this is hopefully where Taker fully returns as the real deadman with the ministry to take on Ivan Drago.....I mean Heidi....and how did he get busted up so mch???
Probably not wearing a seatbelt.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

just to add to the effect i guess

[Innovator]

at Survivor Series, for his fourteenth WWE birthday, Taker is going to go throwback I bet

[McLegend]

Was this PPV good?

[DMI]

nooooooo :(

[Innovator]

Probably not wearing a seatbelt.
seatbelts, HA they kill more people than they save

[jerichoholic169]

he drove a car going 50mph into a stationary hearse without a seatbelt - do the maths.....but seriously doesnt this remind anyone of when kane screwed UT out of title at royal rumbel against HBK??? and then set fire to casket?? now they'll have to 'resurrect' UT for about the 5th time

[MRAT=VEGETABLES]

JBL gets to hold the title for a whole nother month at least. I cant wait.

[Loose Cannon]

He's babyface, not heel. He doesn't need buddies.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

the whole scenario is fkd up. hopefully when he does get re-re-re-re-resurected he'll have the proper attire

[The CyNick]

And he's like the ultra superman babyface. If it was Orton, sure he'd hire an army to fight off two guys because he's so logical, but Taker? Nah.

[OssMan]

YES JBL RETAINS

[McLegend]

And he's like the ultra superman babyface. If it was Orton, sure he'd hire an army to fight off two guys because he's so logical, but Taker? Nah.
That's why Orton is great

[Loose Cannon]

JBL reminds me so much of Honky Tonk right now. He just manages to pull off the victory every fricken time :lol:

So where are they going now? Show/JBL/Kurt 3 way.

[The CyNick]

the whole scenario is fkd up. hopefully when he does get re-re-re-re-resurected he'll have the proper attire

I haven't heard of anything planned as far as changing his look (again). I think this was just done for the sake of getting people talking. With the hopes that more people will tune in to future PPvs to see what happens next. Also, they needed to do something huge with Heidenreich in order to get fans to accept him in a program with Taker. I dont expect Taker to be off TV for more than a week to be honest.

[The CyNick]

That's why Orton is great

But Orton does that stuff as a face. Ironically as a heel, he seemed a lot tougher.

[Mikey]

Maybe it will be Big Show vs JBL at Survivor Series

[MRAT=VEGETABLES]

seems logical

[McLegend]

But Orton does that stuff as a face. Ironically as a heel, he seemed a lot tougher.
He would have evolution take people out has a heel or they would at least help

[Splaya]

So wait, why would you have Hidi burn the hearse or blow it up. It makes no sense.

[MRAT=VEGETABLES]

so he can tell everyone why in a poem next week on SD

[McLegend]

so he can tell everyone why in a poem next week on SD
Gotta love his poems

[Loose Cannon]

Heyman has heat with Taker (in both storyline and backsatge sense for that matter :lol: )so he gets his man to fuck Taker up.

[The CyNick]

JBL reminds me so much of Honky Tonk right now. He just manages to pull off the victory every fricken time :lol:

So where are they going now? Show/JBL/Kurt 3 way.

Eddie should be in there as well since he won his match as well. So I could see a 4 way at SurvSer. Either that, or they do Show-JBL one on one, and maybe some type of Elimination match with "Team Angle" vs "Team Eddie".

Back to JBL, I was thinking about this today, but has JBL actually pinned anyone in a WWE Championship match? I mean I know he's won some non title matches, but I cant think of any title matches where he gets the pinfall. He beat Eddie by DQ, by touching corners and by escaping a cage. He beat Taker by DQ, and now by throwing him in a car. Who knew he was a long term champion?

[The CyNick]

He would have evolution take people out has a heel or they would at least help

He beat Foley by himself, and didn't even run away!

[John la Rock]

did cena win..i had to go out for a while and i wasnt reading

Yes via FU

John Cena new US Champ

[McLegend]

He beat Foley by himself, and didn't even run away!
True, but either way I love Orton

[Loose Cannon]

That's Honky Tonk booking right there. I kind of like that booking too.

[MRAT=VEGETABLES]

sounds just like the other 4 matches

[Loose Cannon]

You think Cena/Luther will work a program now?

[Gouda]

It's simple. Paul Heyman lets Heidenreich... ummm... "drink his kool-aid" if you know what I mean, and in return Heidenreich has to drive exploding cars into his enemies.

HEIDENRAPE! *points to his sig* Click it!

[The CyNick]

True, but either way I love Orton

Well that makes about 10 of you.

[MRAT=VEGETABLES]

i guess that makes me 11

[Splaya]

I'm one of those 10.




Wait, what am I responding to?

[Loose Cannon]

Just remember who liked Orton before Orton was liked. You bet.

Christian Is the man now though.

[MRAT=VEGETABLES]

im out..
good night everyone

[Gertner]

JBL retains= Gertner is happy!

[The CyNick]

You think Cena/Luther will work a program now?

I dont know where they go with Cena. Cant go back to Booker T. Dupree and Kenzo are doing the tag thing. That pretty much leaves Reigns and Jindrak as the highest level heels that need a program. Reigns would seem more logical.

The good thing is that with SurvSer being the next PPV for SD they dont need very many one on one programs. They can throw a bucnh of guys in a couple of Elimination matches and start building new things for the PPV in December.

[The Answer]

Well their is gotta be some reason Booker T was being booked against JBL in house shows.So maybe Booker turns face and goes one on one with JBL.SUCKA!!!!!!!!!

[The CyNick]

Just remember who liked Orton before Orton was liked. You bet.

Christian Is the man now though.

Yeah you'll always be the original Orton mark, no matter how big (or small) he winds up being.

[The Answer]

If only Teddy Long was bigger and more muscular he would make a mean WWE Champion.Playa!!!

[Gone Mad]

Wow.. that sucks. JBL retains and Heidi-reich is now in the main event? I guess this sets up for JBL to lose the title against SD!'s new hottest star... Razor..er..I mean, Carlito.. Carribbean... Cool!

...Or not.

[Gerard]

True, but either way I love Orton


Why? He's out to kill you ya know. :shifty:

[V]

fucking bradshaw, why are they giving him such a long reign

[Splaya]

Just remember who liked Orton before Orton was liked. You bet.

Christian Is the man now though.

I already told you I liked him before he was liked. Like a month after you :mad:

[Loose Cannon]

fucking bradshaw, why are they giving him such a long reign

Honky Tonk dude. Pisses you off right? That's what they want.

[Fox]

They're totally over-doing it though. At least Honky Tonk sang. JBL just bitches about stupid shit that sometimes doesn't even have to do with the program he's in, and then beats up mexicans and faceless wrestlers.

If Big Show is the one to take the title off JBL I'm going to be pissed off, and if Eddie Guerrero doesn't get another title shot before WrestleMania I will probably stab someone in the eye with a ballpoint pen.


At least there's always RAW, where we have the youngest WWE Champion in history.... wait.... god damnit, WWE!!!

[Gouda]

They don't want to give up on JBL. On a show that so desperatley needs stars they don't just want to pull the plug on this charcter that they have put so much into.

[Corkscrewed]

Hm. So Heidi slamed a truck into a car containing Taker, and everything burst into flames.

Well, we'll see Taker in two weeks! :wave:

[CosaNostra]

call me old fashioned but shouldn't a tombstone on the steel steps leave you pretty much limp

Yeah, a Tombstone in the ring finishes a match 99% of the time. A Tombstone on the steel steps and JBL is up a minute later. Thats pretty fucking stupid.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Yeah, a Tombstone in the ring finishes a match 99% of the time. A Tombstone on the steel steps and JBL is up a minute later. Thats pretty fucking stupid.

He got up a minute later? Sorry for the stupid question I didn't really get to see it. I only use results by computer. It sounded pretty odd that he got up after a Tombstone on Steel steps. Probably one of the worst sellers I've ever heard/seen.

[CosaNostra]

I'm not exaggerating. After the Tombstone ont the steel steps I thought "ok, that HAS to be it". JBL was cut open and he rolled around for about a minute. Then when he got up and was doing things like smashing Taker in the head with a steel chair and walking around like nothing happened (other than the blood) I was like "WTF, I can't believe this match isn't over. This has to be one of the worst no-sellers I've ever seen". It was a Tombstone Piledriver on steel steps, for fuck sakes.......... :nono:

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I'm not exaggerating. After the Tombstone ont the steel steps I thought "ok, that HAS to be it". JBL was cut open and he rolled around for about a minute. Then when he got up and was doing things like smashing Taker in the head with a steel chair and walking around like nothing happened (other than the blood) I was like "WTF, I can't believe this match isn't over. This has to be one of the worst no-sellers I've ever seen". It was a Tombstone Piledriver on steel steps, for fuck sakes.......... :nono:

In my opinion if you can't even sell a Tombstone on steel steps then you shouldn't even be champ. God, probably even Lita can sell a tombstone on steel steps.

[CosaNostra]

In my opinion if you can't even sell a Tombstone on steel steps then you shouldn't even be champ. God, probably even Lita can sell a tombstone on steel steps.

Oh, but there is morrrrrrrrrre.

After THAT, Taker gives JBL a chokeslam through a table. Holy shit chants all around. Now........... THAT has GOT to be it! Taker carries JBL to the hearst and opens the door and Heidireich comes out and cloroforms Taker, puts him to sleep and stuffs him in. Then Taker wakes up, comes out and kicks Heidireich's ass. As Taker turns around, a totally refreshed JBL gives Taker the Clothesline From Hell and he and Heidireich stuff Taker into the Hearst and it drives away. Match over.

So here we have JBL no selling a Tombstone on steel steps, no selling a chokeslam through a table, and Taker getting up from being cloroformed by Heidireich.............yet a clothesline is what finally finishes it?

Give me a fucking BREAK! :rant: :nono:

[Hardkore Kidd J]

Oh, but there is morrrrrrrrrre.

After THAT, Taker gives JBL a chokeslam through a table. Holy shit chants all around. Now........... THAT has GOT to be it! Taker carries JBL to the hearst and opens the door and Heidireich comes out and cloroforms Taker, puts him to sleep and stuffs him in. Then Taker wakes up, comes out and kicks Heidireich's ass. As Taker turns around, a totally refreshed JBL gives Taker the Clothesline From Hell and he and Heidireich stuff Taker into the Hearst and it drives away. Match over.

So here we have JBL no selling a Tombstone on steel steps, no selling a chokeslam through a table, and Taker getting up from being cloroformed by Heidireich.............yet a clothesline is what finally finishes it?

Give me a fucking BREAK! :rant: :nono:

Cloreoform? Was that what was on that rag that Heienwhatever shoved in Taker's face? I read something about a cloth or something that Heidenreich shoved in Taker's face after he opened the hearse. God if that was JBL after that truck hit the hearse. He would have just got out of the hearse 2 minutes later and waved to the crowd and walked off.

[CosaNostra]

Yeah, when Heidenreich came out of the hearst he started pouring it on a cloth from a bottle.

After seeing all of that though, I am seriously considering not buying another Smackdown! Pay Per View if JBL is headlining it as WWE Champion. I just can't take it anymore.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I just hope the rumor isn't right I read a headline that they're doing another Undertaker vs. JBL match at SS.

[CosaNostra]

What rumor?

[Hardkore Kidd J]

What rumor?

That Undertaker might be going against JBL again at SS.

[CosaNostra]

That Undertaker might be going against JBL again at SS.

:nono: *SIGH*

[Hardkore Kidd J]

:nono: *SIGH*

If this is true he better win the title off him. Hell, I'd prefer Heidenechen or whatever his name is as champ.

[NoJabbaNoBogRoll]

I liked that match.

The whole PPV was pretty good actually.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

I liked that match.

The whole PPV was pretty good actually.

Yes, I admit the ppv was pretty good. And I guess the JBL match might not be as bad as I think it is. I'll rent the DVD on video when it comes out. I'm just kinda pissed that out of all things a clothesline was what made Taker lose the match and yet JBL can be chokeslammed through a table and Tombstoned on steel steps and still win the match.

[McLegend]

I'm not exaggerating. After the Tombstone ont the steel steps I thought "ok, that HAS to be it". JBL was cut open and he rolled around for about a minute. Then when he got up and was doing things like smashing Taker in the head with a steel chair and walking around like nothing happened (other than the blood) I was like "WTF, I can't believe this match isn't over. This has to be one of the worst no-sellers I've ever seen". It was a Tombstone Piledriver on steel steps, for fuck sakes.......... :nono:
Remember when no one got up from the Tombstone and now JBL gets up after he was dropped on the steps. WTF

[CosaNostra]

Remember when no one got up from the Tombstone and now JBL gets up after he was dropped on the steps. WTF

Yeah, a Tombstone in the ring finishes a match 99% of the time.

[Loose Cannon]

It's Taker-Heidenreich at Survivor Series. JBL will probably drop it in a 3 or 4 way match.

How many times has Taker recieved Cloreoform? I know he got it once from Giant Gonzolez.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

WWE Championship: John Bradshaw Layfield vs. The Undertaker.

Eddie Guerrero and Rey Mysterio vs. Kurt Angle and Luther Reigns.

World Cruiserweight Title: Spike Dudley vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Billy Kidman.

Tag Team Titles: Rico and Charlie Haas with Miss Jackie vs. Rene Dupree and Kenzo Suzuki with Hiroko.

Chavo Guerrero vs. Carlito.

Scotty II Hotty vs. Mark Jindrak.

Nunzio and Johnny The Bull Stamboli vs. The Dudleys.

Hardcore Holly vs. Heidenreich.

Paul London vs. South Florida’s Orlando Jordan.

*As it appears from the above, it looks as though JBL vs The Undetaker is almost set in stone for Survivor Series, because this House Show is scheduled about one week before the event.

Of Course, cards are subject to change, so anything could happen, but it appears from this, WWE has a plan paved out and they may very well be sticking too it.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

It's just a rumor though so I don't know.

[CosaNostra]

It's Taker-Heidenreich at Survivor Series. JBL will probably drop it in a 3 or 4 way match.

How many times has Taker recieved Cloreoform? I know he got it once from Giant Gonzolez.
One time Paul Bearer tried to use chloroform on Undertaker while Taker was in a match with the Big Show. Other than that I can't remember off hand another time he got it.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

One time Paul Bearer tried to use chloroform on Undertaker while Taker was in a match with the Big Show. Other than that I can't remember off hand another time he got it.

DO you remeber when that was?

[CosaNostra]

DO you remeber when that was?
http://slashwrestling.com/raw/990503.html

I can't find the date but here is the walkthrough.

Also, on a Nov. 23rd, 1998 Raw, the Undertaker used a chloroform-soaked rag on Steve Austin.

[Hardkore Kidd J]

:y: Thanks for the link.

[Gerard]

Also, on a Nov. 23rd, 1998 Raw, the Undertaker used a chloroform-soaked rag on Steve Austin.


Jesus that seems like a couple of years ago and its nearly 6 years ago..wtf :wtf:

[Londoner]

Didn't Paul Bearer use it on Taker in a match against the rock once?It was at King Of the Ring 99 I think.

[The Mackem]

Isn't Undertaker dead anyway? He should be on Smackdown next week.

[Joe Kerr]

Didnt the giant Gonzalas get chloroformed or use chloroform to take someone down (I wanna say taker or Hogan)

[CosaNostra]

How many times has Taker recieved Cloreoform? I know he got it once from Giant Gonzolez.Didnt the giant Gonzalas get chloroformed or use chloroform to take someone down (I wanna say taker or Hogan)

:nono: *SIGH*