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Dave Youell
01-06-2005, 03:19 PM
If you didn't sign up in the original thread, don't bother posting here. It's a waste of mine and Tornado's time
All Results are worth 5 points each unless otherwise stated
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ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner:
How:
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:
How
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner:
How:
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:
How:
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners:
How:
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner:
How:
This thread will be void once the PPV has started
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: HHH
How: Sledgehammer shot to Batista then pinfall
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Jericho
2. Benoit
3. Edge
4. Orton
5. Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Benjamin
How: DQ
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Xtian/Tomko
How: Cheap pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Pinfall after interference by Daivari
Heyman
01-06-2005, 04:28 PM
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ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Randy Orton
How: RKO to Batista
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Jericho
2. Edge
3. Benoit
4. Triple H
5. Dave Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Benjamin
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Xtian/Tomko
How: pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Pinfall after interference by Daivari
All Results are worth 5 points each unless otherwise stated
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ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Orton
How: Pinfall
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Jericho :(
2. Benoit
3. Edge
4. HHH
5. Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Trish
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton Benjamin
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Tomko and Christian
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Pinfall
tucsonspeed6
01-06-2005, 04:40 PM
Just wondering, since this is still the first prediction thread, can I still join up? I have more than 500 posts, and I'm pretty good at predictions.
Gertner
01-06-2005, 04:41 PM
Elimination Chamber Match
Winner Triple H
How : HBK double cross Randy Orton with a superkick
Order of elimination
1. Jericho
2. Benoit
3.Edge
4. Batista
5. Randy Orton
Women's Championship Match
Winner: Trish
How: Chick Kick
I.C Match
Winner Shelton Benjamin
How: T-Bone
Tag Team Titles
Winner: Christian, Tyson Tomko
How: Christian hits Regal with the belt
Dead baby Match
Winner : Snitsky
How: Matt Hardy Interference
The Hick vs The Camel Jockey Match
Winner Muhammad Hassen
How: Outside Interference from Daivari
Anybody Thrilla
01-06-2005, 04:48 PM
Just wondering, since this is still the first prediction thread, can I still join up? I have more than 500 posts, and I'm pretty good at predictions.
Yeah, me too!
Mike the Metal Ed
01-06-2005, 04:58 PM
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ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner:
How:
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Chris Jericho
2. Edge
3. Chris Benoit
4. Batista
5. Randy Orton
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Trish Stratus
How Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Pin Fall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton Benjamin
How: Pin Fall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugene and Regal
How: Pin Fall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Muhammed Hassan
How: Pin Fall.
StrongMad
01-06-2005, 05:01 PM
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner:HHH:(
How:Pedigree to Batista
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1.Jericho
2.Edge
3.Benoit
4.Orton
5.Batista
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:Trish
How: Stratusfaction and pin
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner:Kane
How:Chokeslam and pin
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:Shelton Benjamin
How: pin
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners:Eugene/Regal
How: pin
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner:Hassan
How: Pin
This thread will be void once the PPV has started: okay
Tornado
01-06-2005, 05:21 PM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Triple H
How: Pinfall
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Jericho
2. Benoit
3. Edge
4. Orton
5. Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: Botchsault, Pinfall.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Chokeslam, Pinfall.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Benjamin
How: Exploder Suplex, Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Tomko & Christian
How: Some kind of cheating
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Pinfall
EDIT - Just posting a marker for myself, got all the predictions recorded up to here.
Tornado
01-06-2005, 05:22 PM
TS6, Anybody Thrilla, see what Dave says, he's the boss.
Anybody Thrilla
01-06-2005, 05:27 PM
No shit. That's why I didn't post predictions.
Tornado
01-06-2005, 05:31 PM
lol, great way to endear yourself to one of the people running the league.
Anybody Thrilla
01-06-2005, 05:31 PM
What, logic?
Eunos
01-06-2005, 05:41 PM
winner: 3 H's
Elimination Chamber
1.Jericho :(
2.Edge
3.Benoit
4.Bastista
5.Orton
How: Help from Evolution
Lita vs Trish
Winner. Kita
How. Pinfall
Kane vs Snitsky
Winner. Kane
How. Chokeslam then Pin
IC Title
Winner: Shelton
How. Pin
Xian and Tomko vs Regal and Eugene
Winner: Tomko and Christian
How: Christian pins Eugene with Tomko holidng his legs down
Hassan vs Lawler
Winner: Hassan
How: Pin
Scarface
01-06-2005, 05:55 PM
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ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Triple H
How:Shawn Michaels screwjob
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1.Benoit
2.Jericho
3.Edge
4.Batista
5.Orton
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Trish
How: outside interference
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Tombstone
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton Benjamin
How: Being a better wrestler
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugene and Regal
How: stunner
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: manager interference
This thread will be void once the PPV has started
Corkscrewed
01-06-2005, 06:05 PM
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ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: HHH
How: pinfall after HBK accidentally Superkicks Orton
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Benoit
2. Edge
3. Jericho
4. Batista
5. Orton
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Snitsky
How: DQ on Kane
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Benjamin
How: Pinfall after Exploder
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugene and Regal
How: Pinfall by Eugene
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Pinfall
Gouda
01-06-2005, 06:13 PM
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ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Randy Orton
How: RKO.
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Edge
2. Jericho
3. Batista (By Hunter, after he capitalizes on someone else hitting their finishing move on Batista)
4. Bentoit
5. HHH
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: DQ
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Tombstone. Possibly more than one.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton.
How: T-Bone.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugene and Regal
How: Eugene with one of his finishers.... on Tomko.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Finisher.
tucsonspeed6
01-06-2005, 06:57 PM
I'll wait. Hopefully he'll be back before the PPV.
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ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Triple H
How: Pinfall
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Jericho :(:(:(:(:(:(
2. Edge
3. Benoit
4. Orton
5. Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: Submission
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton Benjamin
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Christian, Tomko
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Pinfall
Mr. Nerfect
01-06-2005, 07:33 PM
I am going to take a HUGE risk to start off the year, and it won't pay out, but I'm going to give it a try, hoping God is on my side, because I sure know the WWE isn't.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Chris Jericho
How: Submission with the Walls of Jericho
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Edge (I have a feeling Shawn Michaels will play a part in this)
2. Batista (It would make sense to have him make it to the end, but I think he's big and strong enough to go early)
3. Randy Orton (He's their biggest face, but I can see Batista getting rid of this guy after he is eliminated quickly by him)
4. Triple H (I'm tempted to put him above Benoit, but I think he has enough heat to go now without being damaged, and with Benoit and Jericho just being phantom World Championship contenders, you need to solidify them, oh and just image a Walls of Jericho/Crippler Corssface combo on The Game with no one to break it up)
5. Chris Benoit (I think you need one man who has never won the match before to make it to the end, and Benoit is a better pick that Edge or Batista since he's won the title before, plus Jericho vs. Benoit would make a great final confrontation)
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Trish Stratus
How: Pinfall, possibly with interference from Christian, Tyson Tomko and/or Gene Snitsky.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Gene Snitsky
How: Disqualification. They need to have Snitsky keep his record over Kane, as well as making Kane look unstoppable. I can even see Kane Chokeslamming Lita in this one.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Maven
How: Pinfall. Probably not clean (ie. a dirty roll-up, probably using the ropes and/or tights).
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: The Christian Solution (Christian & Tyson Tomko)
How: Pinfall, with Christian probably taking advantage of something Tomko does, or a miscommunication between Eugene and Regal. I think there needs to be a complete title makeover at NYR, and you can't do wrong with Christian as a champion. I'm tempted to side with Regal & Eugene, as Regal promised to make the titles credible again, but with a 30 minute match, I think they'd do that just as well as being long-term champions.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Muhammad Hassan
How: Decisive pinfall. C'mon a heel that's tough, credible, and makes accurate statements most of the time that still gets plenty of heat? I love the sound of that.
Savio
01-06-2005, 07:36 PM
All Results are worth 5 points each unless otherwise stated
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ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: HHH
How: Pin fall
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Y2J
2. Benoit
3. Edge
4. Orton
5. Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How pin
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Maven
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugene and regal
How: Pin fall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: pin
This thread will be void once the PPV has started
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Batista
How: Spinebuster on Edge
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Jericho
2. Orton
3. Triple H
4. Benoit
5. Edge
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugene and Regal
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Daivan cheats to help Hassan win
The Answer
01-06-2005, 07:53 PM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner:Randy Orton
How:R-K-O on HHH
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1.Benoit
2.Jericho
3.Edge
4.Batista
5.HHH
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:Lita
How:Moonsault
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner:Kane
How:Chokeslam from Hell
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:Benjamin
How:Underhook suplex finisher(T-Bone)
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners:Christian and Tomko
How:Christian unprettier on Regal or Eugene
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner:Hussan
How:His finishing move:The Arabian night is my name for it
This thread will be void once the PPV has started
What Would Kevin Do?
01-07-2005, 03:25 AM
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ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Edge.
How: Edge pisses HBK off. HBK goes for SCM, Edge ducks, Shawn nails Batista.
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1.Benoit
2.HHH
3.Jericho
4.Orton
5. Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:Lita
How: DDT
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner:Geno Machine (Snitsky)
How: DQ After Kane goes crazy on him and attacks him with a chair.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:Benjamin
How: Counters Maven's top rope DDT into his T-bone pin.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners:Christian and Tomko
How:Christian after stealing Regal's brass knucks and blasting Eugene with them.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner:Hussan
How:His finishing move: Hussan, cleanly with his finisher.
Tornado
01-07-2005, 05:22 AM
OK, Head and StrongMad, you never signed up in the 2 page Sign-Up thread, so your predictions are pretty much pointless. Probably not gonna allow any more entrants, as we have a 40-strong list at the moment, which is a decent number for the both of us to do. We both have jobs, and Dave has a kid, so we don't have buckets of free time to calculate the results. For the FINAL time, here is the list of entrants:
123 Kid
Alienoid06
Big Vito 22
The Cerebral Assassin
Corkscrewed
CYCLOPTERSAURUS
Dave Youell
DeadManWalkin
diothor
EcKo 03 ComPlEX
Eunos
Fryza
Gertner
Gohan3k
Gouda
Hardkore Kidd J
HardKore UK
Hired Hitman
Helmsphere
Heyman
Innovator
JamesSteele
John la Rock
Jonster
Kapoutman
King Jericho
legendkiller
Loopydate
Mr. JL
MVP
Nervous Ferret
NoJabbaNoBogRoll
Savior
Scarface
Sephiroth
Shaggy
Splaya
SuperSlim
Tornado
What Would Kevin Do?
Tornado
01-07-2005, 05:24 AM
QUESTION
(sorry had to make it noticable)
Just wondering, do we have to say how including what move, or just how? Since a lot of people are saying "pinfall" alone, and others are saying the exact move that'll make them win.. do you get extra points if you say the move, or the same amount if you just say pinfall? A little confused here, but i'll put the move incase, i'll edit out the move if you just need to say if it was a pinfall/dq/submission.
Pinfall/Submission/DQ is fine.
James Steele
01-07-2005, 07:22 AM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Randy Orton
How: Batista inadvertantly knocks the shit out of HHH and Randy Orton RKO's Batista. Randy pins HHH and then RKO's Batista again for the pin.
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Jericho
2. Benoit
3. Edge
4. Triple H
5. Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: Botches DDT and kills trish for the ko... errr... I mean Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Gene "F'n" Snitsky
How: DQ
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton Benjamin
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Tomko and Christian
How: Pinfall on Eugene
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Pinfall (With Daivari Going After JR to distract Lawler, thus setting up the "Hassan Spins Him Around and lands the finisher for the 1-2-3!)
Dave Youell
01-07-2005, 08:58 AM
Pinfall/Submission/DQ is fine.
Screw that I want the play by play start to finish :mad:
SuperSlim
01-07-2005, 09:15 AM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: HHH
How: HBK superkicks Batista then HHH pedigrees him
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Jericho :(
2. Edge
3. Orton
4. Benoit
5. Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Trish
How: Stratusfaction, pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: chokeslam, pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton
How: pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners:Christian and Tyson Tomko
How: pinfall on Eugene by Christian
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURTO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: beats teh crap out of Lawler, almost a squash match, and pins him
Mister Sinister
01-07-2005, 12:42 PM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Triple H
How: After a HBK Superkick To Orton and a HHH Pedigree
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Chris Benoit
2. Chris Jericho
3. Edge
4. Batista
5. Randy Orton
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How Victory Roll (Which She'll proberly botch and land on her head)
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Countout
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton Benjamin
How: Maven get's himself DQ'ed
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Christian & Tyson Tomko
How: Tomko Big Boot on Regal
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Via Submission w/ Camel Clutch
loopydate
01-07-2005, 01:07 PM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Triple H
How: Batista isn't paying attention after eliminating Orton and walks into a Pedigree
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Chris Jericho
2. Edge
3. Chris Benoit
4. Randy Orton
5. Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita :(
How: Crappy flip...er...moonsault
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Gene Snitsky
How: Disqualification when Kane just goes bugshit
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton Benjamin
How: T-Bone suplex
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: William Regal and Eugene
How: Tomko accidentally kicks Christian in the head, allowing Eugene to hit the People's Elbow
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Muhammad Hassan (if there's a God)
How: Pinfall after hitting whatever his finisher is
Splaya
01-07-2005, 01:26 PM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Chris Jericho because I think he will be a filler to the title until Trips gets it back at the Rumble
How: Submission: Walls of Jericho to HHH
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Benoit
2. Edge
3. Orton
4. Batista
5. HHH
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: No Contest
How: Because both men are going to be counted out or some crap like that. Cause they are both going to go crazy eventually
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Maven
How: Roll up and grabbing the tights pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: The Christian Solution. I'd really love to say that Regal and Eugene win here but I can't. What I would love to do here is have Eugene mess up and Regal get pissed only to have them setup a 1 on 1 friendly match with each other, but then Eugene turns heel and reveals he is not a retard at WM 21
How: Pinfall after the Radd-ifie...I mean Unprettier (C-fed joke)
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: His finisher out of nowhere. Pinfall. And trust me, Lawler will hold the advantage throughout the whole match. Although, with them being in Puerto Rico, they might have Hassan look good in front of a "home crowd"
Shaggy
01-07-2005, 01:32 PM
All Results are worth 5 points each unless otherwise stated
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner:Triple H
How:Pinfall....pedigree
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1.Beniot
2.Edge
3.Batista
4.Jericho
5.Orton
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:Lita
How: Pinfall---Twist of Fate
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How:Pinfall---Chokeslam
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Maven :shifty: (I go for him with hope he will win)
How: Pinfall----The Stroke
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners:Eugene and Regal
How: Pinfall---Rock Bottom
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner:Hassan
How: Pinfall----what ever his finisher is
This thread will be void once the PPV has started[/QUOTE]
Tornado
01-07-2005, 02:31 PM
Done up to here.
Also, we'll use Pinfall/Submission/DQ as a method this thread, but we'll ask for you to be a bit more specific starting with the Rumble.
Dave Youell
01-07-2005, 02:49 PM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Orton
How: Pin
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Benoit
2. Jericho
3. Edge
4. Batista
5. HHH
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Trish
How: Pin
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Snitsky
How: DQ
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Benjamin
How: Pin
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Regal/Eugene
How: Pin
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Pin
CYCLOPTERSAURUS
01-07-2005, 10:21 PM
All Results are worth 5 points each unless otherwise stated
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner:HHH
How:Pin
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1.Jericho
2.Benoit
3.Edge
4.Orton
5.Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:Lita
How:Pin
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner:Kane
How:DQ
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:Shelton
How:Pin
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners:Christian & Tomko
How:Pin
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner:Hassan
How:Pin
This thread will be void once the PPV has started
darkpower
01-08-2005, 02:07 AM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: I'm gonna make a bold one... BATISTA (my long shot of this one)
How: Pinfall after a HHH sledgehammer attempt backfires
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Edge
2. Jericho
3. Orton
4. Benoit
5. HHH
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita (I'm probably the only one on this board that likes her :'( )
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton
How: Pinfall...but look to Maven kicking the, as Tazz would say, the holy high hell out of him afterwards and continuing this feud.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugine And Regal
How: Interference by La Resistance causes Tomko and Christian to be DQ'ed
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: I would say interference by his sidekick (forgot the name of him now), followed by the pinfall.
Tornado
01-08-2005, 05:03 AM
darkpower, i'm afraid you not in the league.
Done up to here...
Also, members still to predict:
123 Kid
Big Vito 22
The Cerebral Assassin
diothor
EcKo 03 ComPlEX
Fryza
Hardkore Kidd J
Hired Hitman
Innovator
John la Rock
Jonster
Kapoutman
Mr. JL
Nervous Ferret (banned isn't he?)
NoJabbaNoBogRoll
Sephiroth
If you have posted and are on this list, let me know, I must have accidentally skipped over your results.
PorkSoda
01-08-2005, 08:33 AM
Is this worth buying? I don't think so :(
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Chris Jericho.
How: Edge uses the tights to beat Orton, uses the ropes to beat Batista, then Jericho wins making Edge tap to The Walls.
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Triple H. ( :love: )
2. Chris Benoit.
3. Randy Orton.
4. Batista.
5. Edge.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: This is probably just going to be a brawl. Kane wins via countout when Snitsky walks away after a while.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton Benjamin
How: Pinfall.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugine And Regal
How: Eugene hits the Stunner on Tomko to win. They should have added La Resistance and Hurricane/Rosey and make it a four corners tag match.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner:Hassan
How: Pinfall. Probably a low blow then rolls him up or interference from Khaserio or foreign object.
Evil Vito
01-08-2005, 10:43 AM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
<font color=goldenrod>ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Triple H
How: Pinfall
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Edge
2. Chris Jericho
3. Chris Benoit
4. Batista
5. Randy Orton
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Gene Snitsky
How: DQ
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton Benjamin
How: Maven pins Shelton by cheating, but another ref comes out and either reverses the decision or re-starts the match, which Shelton wins by pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugene & Regal
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Muhammad Hassan
How: Pinfall</font>
Joe Kerr
01-08-2005, 11:07 AM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner:Jericho
How:Submission on Batista
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1.Benoit
2.edge
3.HHH
4.Orton
5.Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:Lita
How DDT pin
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner:Kane
How: Chokeslam
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner:Maven
How: Feet on ropes or holding tights
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Christian and Tyson
How: Christian holds Eugenes tights
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner:Hassan
How: pin
Dave Youell
01-08-2005, 11:17 AM
FOR FUCK SAKE.
Joey, do you see your name here?
123 Kid
Alienoid06
Big Vito 22
The Cerebral Assassin
Corkscrewed
CYCLOPTERSAURUS
Dave Youell
DeadManWalkin
diothor
EcKo 03 ComPlEX
Eunos
Fryza
Gertner
Gohan3k
Gouda
Hardkore Kidd J
HardKore UK
Hired Hitman
Helmsphere
Heyman
Innovator
JamesSteele
John la Rock
Jonster
Kapoutman
King Jericho
legendkiller
Loopydate
Mr. JL
MVP
Nervous Ferret
NoJabbaNoBogRoll
Savior
Scarface
Sephiroth
Shaggy
Splaya
SuperSlim
Tornado
What Would Kevin Do?
Joe Kerr
01-08-2005, 11:21 AM
FOR FUCK SAKE.
Joey, do you see your name here?
Joey Radd
123 Kid
Alienoid06
Big Vito 22
The Cerebral Assassin
Corkscrewed
CYCLOPTERSAURUS
Dave Youell
DeadManWalkin
diothor
EcKo 03 ComPlEX
Eunos
Fryza
Gertner
Gohan3k
Gouda
Hardkore Kidd J
HardKore UK
Hired Hitman
Helmsphere
Heyman
Innovator
JamesSteele
John la Rock
Jonster
Kapoutman
King Jericho
legendkiller
Loopydate
Mr. JL
MVP
Nervous Ferret
NoJabbaNoBogRoll
Savior
Scarface
Sephiroth
Shaggy
Splaya
SuperSlim
Tornado
What Would Kevin Do?
Dave Youell
01-08-2005, 11:21 AM
:|
Evil Vito
01-08-2005, 11:54 AM
<font color=goldenrod>Ugh, someone ban that tard.</font>
Tornado
01-08-2005, 04:25 PM
Done up to here.
Joe Kerr
01-08-2005, 04:29 PM
Tornado has beef currtains......no forget that I cant lower my standards to throw out preschool insults....unless.....
Tornado
01-08-2005, 04:36 PM
For FUCKS SAKE.
We had a thread up on page one of the forum for the majority of September. You didnt sign up in it, you then ignore the MULTIPLE lists of entrants posted in the thread. Please, don't make our jobs harder by having to sift through un-wanted posts.
Joe Kerr
01-08-2005, 04:38 PM
For FUCKS SAKE.
We had a thread up on page one of the forum for the majority of September. You didnt sign up in it, you then ignore the MULTIPLE lists of entrants posted in the thread. Please, don't make our jobs harder by having to sift through un-wanted posts.
and that previous post is suppose to gain respect and make me make it easier for you? :nono:
Tornado
01-08-2005, 04:46 PM
No.
It was simply a request to ask you not to predict in this thread as you didnt sign up. I have 40 Posters predictions to note down in Excel, and it takes enough time as it is, without having to sift through posts from people that don't read the instructions.
Dave Youell
01-08-2005, 04:51 PM
No.
It was simply a request to ask you not to predict in this thread as you didnt sign up. I have 40 Posters predictions to note down in Excel, and it takes enough time as it is, without having to sift through posts from people that don't read the instructions.
GO T IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY
GO T IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY
Joe Kerr
01-08-2005, 04:55 PM
DENIED
Mike the Metal Ed
01-08-2005, 04:58 PM
Joey...
http://mikethemetaled.showyourmoon.com/pics/Other/blazefoff2.JPG
Dave Youell
01-08-2005, 05:06 PM
Dude your going to get Neg Repped, then what will you do?
James Steele
01-08-2005, 06:34 PM
How the fuck did Joey Radd get more rep then me? I know my computer fucks up a lot and I'm gone for weeks on end, but damn it, I know I am better than Joey Radd...
No, I am not bitter....
Loose Cannon
01-08-2005, 06:43 PM
If you are not making predictions or shouldn't be making predictions in this thread, PLEASE DO NOT POST IN HERE.
NoJabbaNoBogRoll
01-08-2005, 07:18 PM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Batista
How: refuses to lie down for HHH and beats his ass
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Y2J
2. Benoit
3. Edge
4. Orton
5. HHH
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Trish
How: Cheating pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Chair on throat attack
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Maven
How: Cheating roll-up
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Christian and Tomko
How: Crooked pin by Christian on Regal
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Pinfall
darkpower
01-08-2005, 07:26 PM
darkpower, i'm afraid you not in the league.
Then how do I get into the league? Where's the page I have to go to?
Mister Sinister
01-08-2005, 07:28 PM
Well, regretably, you unable to join up to this official league, since there are two things that prevent you from doing so. One you didn't sign up in time, and two, your post count is well below the required ammount of 500, however, feel free to join and take part in the other one, set up by, god I can't remember.
Also, as a side note, Tornado and Dave, I'm changing how i think Hassan will win, if you allow me to do so, instead of him stealing Lawler Piledriver, I think he'll win with the Camel Clutch
darkpower
01-08-2005, 07:34 PM
Well, regretably, you unable to join up to this official league, since there are two things that prevent you from doing so. One you didn't sign up in time, and two, your post count is well below the required ammount of 500, however, feel free to join and take part in the other one, set up by, god I can't rememberWell, people who get to 500 posts after that are just shit out of luck, then, am I right?
The problem is that the guys are being complete DICKS about letting anyone else in or even post in this one. If you only want certain people to post, then either let new people join after a PPV is done, or just DON'T PUT IT IN A PUBLIC BOARD!!
All people wanted to do was to post their predictions, and since this is the ONLY on on this BOARD until someone else says something or posts one, then so be it. If you're going to post this stuff here, then don't bitch when others post here. End of story.
EDIT: I didn't see that other thread for the NYR until after I post this, forgive me on that one.
Loose Cannon
01-08-2005, 07:37 PM
Wow, did you not see my post up there. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY ONE ON THIS BOARD. THERE IS ANOTHER ONE. POST IN THERE. THIS "OFFICIAL" ONE HAS BEEN RUNING ON TPWW FOR A WHILE. I WANTED TO JOIN ONCE AND DIDN'T HAVE 500 POSTS, SO I JUST ACCEPTED IT.
darkpower
01-08-2005, 07:46 PM
Wow, did you not see my post up there. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY ONE ON THIS BOARD. THERE IS ANOTHER ONE. POST IN THERE. THIS "OFFICIAL" ONE HAS BEEN RUNING ON TPWW FOR A WHILE. I WANTED TO JOIN ONCE AND DIDN'T HAVE 500 POSTS, SO I JUST ACCEPTED IT.
Read that edit I just made. I didn't catch that other one...AND CALM THE FUCK DOWN!! It's not like you guys are giving away anything special for this. I could care less if I'm in this, since I think this is the worst waste of space for the TPWW board though I choose to make it known instead of just shutting up and/or not looking in it. I'm just concerned about the fairness about a
Oh, and most fantasy things like this tend to let new players in after a certain event. Why can't they do that? Have it that, for a week or two after the PPV, new players can join in if the post count is high enough. That would be better off than to just snuff out anyone who is new to this board (aka DISCOVERING this place) or couldn't get on here for some freak reason to see that post. Then again, no one gives a shit what I think, so take it for what it's worth.
Loose Cannon
01-08-2005, 07:51 PM
WE run a god dam Communist Regime on TPWW. That's why you can't play. Cause we hate people with under 500 posts or people and we hate people who bitch. Eathier accept our rules or get the hell out. You got that darkpower?
Dave Youell owns you. You understand that?
darkpower
01-08-2005, 07:52 PM
WE run a god dam Communist Regime on TPWW. That's why you can't play. Cause we hate people with under 500 posts or people and we hate people who bitch. Eathier accept our rules or get the hell out. You got that darkpower?
Dave Youell owns you. You understand that?
Ehhh....OK, :yes: :lol: :rofl: !!
NoJabbaNoBogRoll
01-08-2005, 07:55 PM
http://img138.exs.cx/img138/5721/thinkb4upost9zh.jpg
Loose Cannon
01-08-2005, 07:55 PM
LMAO
darkpower
01-08-2005, 08:00 PM
http://img138.exs.cx/img138/5721/thinkb4upost9zh.jpg
:lol:
You do know I was being sarcastic, right? :love:
Corkscrewed
01-08-2005, 08:00 PM
LMAO ^ 2
Dave Youell
01-09-2005, 03:32 AM
Well, regretably, you unable to join up to this official league, since there are two things that prevent you from doing so. One you didn't sign up in time, and two, your post count is well below the required ammount of 500, however, feel free to join and take part in the other one, set up by, god I can't remember.
Also, as a side note, Tornado and Dave, I'm changing how i think Hassan will win, if you allow me to do so, instead of him stealing Lawler Piledriver, I think he'll win with the Camel Clutch
Sure no probs, you can edit as much as you want before the PPV. LC said he would close it before anyway to avoid any funny business
Dave Youell
01-09-2005, 03:35 AM
WE run a god dam Communist Regime on TPWW. That's why you can't play. Cause we hate people with under 500 posts or people and we hate people who bitch. Eathier accept our rules or get the hell out. You got that darkpower?
Dave Youell owns you. You understand that?
*drinks vodka*
*Evil Laugh*
Renames Bristol Youellengrad
Dave Youell
01-09-2005, 03:38 AM
Darkpower, chances are you won't be posting before then end of this year, why should I take the time to count all potential newb voted when history has shown us that you won't be in for the long run. There's already 40 entrants, that's enough work as it is thank you, I gave all posters on here a fair chance and enough warning to join in, if you either didn't sign up in time or have the right criteria tough, this is how the tipsters league has worked for the past 4 years, which is why everyone is getting on your case, because this is the way it works.
Deal with it
Tornado
01-09-2005, 11:44 AM
I just wanna thank everyone parcticpating in this thread. We will finish the leauge this year, and we will declare a winner. I would also like to apologise for all the shit that this is causing. It's been said multiple times, but if you missed the sign up thread, then, tough luck really.
Edit - Also, starting with the Royal Rumble, we will be adopting the name of Tipsters Leauge.
Tornado, my post was edited (EC elimination order, and Womens title match)
Tornado
01-09-2005, 12:12 PM
Right, i'm going to watch New Years Revolution at a friends house, and i'm gonna be leaving soon, i'll tally my half of the votes up tomorrow morning, add them with Dave's half when I next speak to him, and we'll compile the leaderboard. So, expect to see standings up on Tuesday sometime.
This thread will remain open until Loose Cannon closes it before New Years Revolution.
darkpower
01-09-2005, 01:04 PM
Darkpower, chances are you won't be posting before then end of this year, why should I take the time to count all potential newb voted when history has shown us that you won't be in for the long run. There's already 40 entrants, that's enough work as it is thank you, I gave all posters on here a fair chance and enough warning to join in, if you either didn't sign up in time or have the right criteria tough, this is how the tipsters league has worked for the past 4 years, which is why everyone is getting on your case, because this is the way it works.
Deal with it
I could care less if I'm in this league or not. It's just being taken too seriously and I am seeing EVERYONE be bitched at for posting here just because they aren't part of a "league", and me being shitted on is not going to happen.
Oh, and look at how long I've been a member here. I've been here for quite a while, and I'll be here for a while, maybe for more than that "year" you speak of. And I'll deal, all right.
darkpower
01-09-2005, 01:09 PM
I just wanna thank everyone parcticpating in this thread. We will finish the leauge this year, and we will declare a winner. I would also like to apologise for all the shit that this is causing. It's been said multiple times, but if you missed the sign up thread, then, tough luck really.
Edit - Also, starting with the Royal Rumble, we will be adopting the name of Tipsters Leauge.
Heh, just don't expect for this to make any friends.
This is going to happen every single time you make these kinds of threads.
As Dave said...DEAL WITH IT!!
Volchok
01-09-2005, 01:12 PM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Chris Jericho
How:Walls of Jericho
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Edge
2. Benoit
3. Orton
4. Batista
5. HHH
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Trish
How: Chick Kick
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT'S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Tombstone
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Maven
How: roll-up
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Christian and Tomko
How: Unprettier to Eugene
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET'S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN?S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Pinfall
Zelda
01-09-2005, 02:14 PM
This is Kapoutman posting from Zelda's house BTW.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Randy Orton
How: RKO/Pinfall
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Benoit
2. Jericho
3. Edge
4. Batista
5.Triple H
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Benjamin
How: Exploder/Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugene/Regal
How: Pinfall brass knucks
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Pinfall, whatever his finisher is.
Dave Youell
01-09-2005, 04:07 PM
Zelda, did you not read any of this thread?
Your not on the list
Loose Cannon
01-09-2005, 04:08 PM
lol, read the first comment of the post Dave
Innovator
01-09-2005, 04:18 PM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: HHH
How: pinfall over Batista
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Edge
2. Jericho
3. Benoit
4. Orton
5. Batista
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Maven
How: Pinfall (cheating somehow)
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugene/Regal
How: Pinfall (Regal over Tomko)
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Pinfall
snakeboss
01-09-2005, 04:27 PM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
[IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Tombstone. Possibly more than one.]
I just thought I'd point out that Kane can no longer do tombstone piledrivers, as he has bad knees and could damage them, so if Kane wins it definately wont be from a tombstone piledriver.
Dave Youell
01-09-2005, 06:30 PM
****THESE ARE KING JERICHO'S PREDICTIONS, AS I'M AT DAVE'S AND CAN'T BE ARSED TO SIGN IN AS ME****
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Triple H
How: Pedigree Pin Fall
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Chris Benoit
2. Edge
3. (Pains me to say it) Chris Jericho
4. Batista
5. Randy Orton
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How: Moonsault Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Snitsky
How: Kane DQ with chair
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Benjamin
How: Exploder Suplex pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugene and Regal
How: Pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: Submission (only as every other match i've predicted i've said pinfall
Dark Ferrett
01-09-2005, 06:52 PM
*********THIS IS NERVOUS FERRET!!!!!! I am an idiot and got banned so I'm posting at dark ferrett's house***********
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_chamber_002.jpg
ELIMINATION CHAMBER MATCH:
Winner: Chris Benoit
How: HHH tapping to crossface
Order of Elimination (10 points each):
1. Jericho
2. Edge
3. Batista
4. Randy Orton
5. HHH
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_womenschamp.jpg
WOMEN’S CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Lita
How pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Snitsky
How: pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_intercontinent.jpg
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winner: Shelton Benjamin
How: DQ
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20050103_nyr_tagteam.jpg
WORLD TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Winners: Eugene and Regal
How: pinfall
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_lawlerhassan.jpg
LET’S TAKE THIS GUY WHO AMERICAN’S HATE AND HAVE HIM DEBUT IN PEURO RICO MATCH
Winner: Hassan
How: cheating and pinfall
Dave Youell
01-09-2005, 06:58 PM
Can a mod confirm Dark Ferrets story?
The Answer
01-09-2005, 08:43 PM
Can a mod confirm Dark Ferrets story?
Ya he did get banned it was in the casual forum
The Answer
01-09-2005, 08:51 PM
Im officially protesting that Trish and Lita match.That finish was rushed and should not count due to injury.Eugene match was fine because they were supposed to win or they would have finished him.Lita got hurt right away and couldn't continue so her pinning Trish would have looked dumb.Protest!!!!
Dave Youell
01-09-2005, 09:06 PM
no deal, a pin's a pin, hey i'm not happy as I lost out in that one as well
Mr. Nerfect
01-09-2005, 11:05 PM
Yes 25 points!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I took WAY too many risks with this. But anyway. I'm pretty sure Trish was supposed to win that match. It made much more sense that way.
elimination order messed me up BIG TIME
35/105 points (i think)
god damn... i suck :(
Dave Youell
01-10-2005, 03:02 AM
Ok the results will be most probably be posted tomorrow
Mr. Nerfect
01-10-2005, 03:19 AM
elimination order messed me up BIG TIME
35/105 points (i think)
god damn... i suck :(
Hey, I got 25.
I don't really mind what I get, because although I normally do pretty well when it comes to logic, I just can't see any in the WWE much anymore, so I'm more or less going by what I feel would make the show as good as possible, because I know that is what the WWE used to dish out, and I have faith they will one day return to that level of programming.
Corkscrewed
01-10-2005, 04:11 AM
Man, totally wrong on Kane/Snitsky and Lita/Trish. If I have this figured out, then I think I got 70 pts. :cool: That's assuming the getting the winner is worth 5 pts, and getting the how is another 5 pts for each match. And bonus pts go to Elimination chamber predictions. I got Edge and Benoit switched, so those don't count, but the rest of the elimination went Jericho, Batista, then Orton, with HHH winning. So think that counts.
Oh well, we'll see. I'm feeling pretty good. :)
Mr. Nerfect
01-10-2005, 04:32 AM
Man, totally wrong on Kane/Snitsky and Lita/Trish. If I have this figured out, then I think I got 70 pts. :cool: That's assuming the getting the winner is worth 5 pts, and getting the how is another 5 pts for each match. And bonus pts go to Elimination chamber predictions. I got Edge and Benoit switched, so those don't count, but the rest of the elimination went Jericho, Batista, then Orton, with HHH winning. So think that counts.
Oh well, we'll see. I'm feeling pretty good. :)
Congrats. :y:
And I think you did get 70pts, but we'll wait until Dave for the final verdict. :cool:
LOL, you got more points than me on the Chamber alone than what I got for the entire card. :lol:
The Answer
01-10-2005, 01:35 PM
25 Points for me thanks to the botched Lita finish and only getting Batista elimination number right.Shoudn't the benjamin match winners recieve 10 points considering he pinned Maven twice in 2 matches(First one and then the rematch)
Edit:I guess it's 5 points for the how the match is won so ya I got 40
The Answer
01-10-2005, 01:41 PM
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/nyr/images/20041227_nyr_kanesnitsky.jpg
[IT’S NOT MY FAULT MATCH
Winner: Kane
How: Tombstone. Possibly more than one.]
I just thought I'd point out that Kane can no longer do tombstone piledrivers, as he has bad knees and could damage them, so if Kane wins it definately wont be from a tombstone piledriver.
:shifty:
Corkscrewed
01-10-2005, 02:54 PM
:lol:
Loose Cannon
01-10-2005, 03:02 PM
OWNED
snakeboss
01-10-2005, 03:21 PM
Sorry, under Glen Jacobs' profile on tv tome , it said he can no longer do tombstones. See...
http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-130476
See at the bottom.
I guess they were lying their asses off.
Corkscrewed
01-10-2005, 03:24 PM
Or just misinformed. Or grossly out of date.
Didn't know he was born in Spain tho.
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