View Full Version : I just noticed this but If Christian wins the World title one day...
Nark Order
04-30-2005, 10:44 AM
He will be yet another Grand Slam winner.
Intercontinental Champion
World Tag Team Champion
Light Heavyweight Champion
Hardcore Champion
European Champion
Cruiserweight 3:16
04-30-2005, 10:59 AM
Does being a grand slam champion really matter? The European title and Light Heavyweight title were always a joke, being a hardcore champion didn't mean anything (until RVD made the title more credible than the I.C. belt), and he was booked poorly when I.C. champion. Only the tag titles he held with Edge made Christian so popular and meaningful to the marks.
BTW I really want Christian to be the World Heavyweight Champion
Nark Order
04-30-2005, 11:00 AM
Of course it matters, god damnit.
Christian will be the fucking man.
Kane Knight
04-30-2005, 11:01 AM
Does being a grand slam champion really matter? The European title and Light Heavyweight title were always a joke, being a hardcore champion didn't mean anything (until RVD made the title more credible than the I.C. belt), and he was booked poorly when I.C. champion. Only the tag titles he held with Edge made Christian so popular and meaningful to the marks.
BTW I really want Christian to be the World Heavyweight Champion
It only matters if they make it matter. For example, mentioning it, using it to hype him.
Nark Order
04-30-2005, 11:03 AM
Which they probably wouldn't bring attention to it...
M. Banana
04-30-2005, 11:07 AM
He'll never be World champion...
People actually like him.
Londoner
04-30-2005, 11:11 AM
It only matters if your name is Triple H.
Nark Order
04-30-2005, 11:14 AM
Trips never won the Light-Heavyweight title. What a loser...
Chuck Jones
04-30-2005, 11:14 AM
He'll be the first male to have held every title he could win. Michaels never won the Light-Heavyweight title.
Kane Knight
04-30-2005, 11:15 AM
He'll never be World champion...
People actually like him.
True. :(
Kane Knight
04-30-2005, 11:15 AM
It only matters if your name is Triple H.
Or HBK.
Londoner
04-30-2005, 11:21 AM
Trips never won the Light-Heavyweight title. What a loser...
It only has to be winning titles that were available to you, Triple H was never a light heavyweight so he's never had the oppotunity.
But yeah if Christian won the World heavyweight or WWE title, i think he would be the first to win every single title, and i bet that doesn't get mentioned, though i hope it does. This makes me want him to beat Cena even more now.
M. Banana
04-30-2005, 11:28 AM
Sarcasm went right over your head didn't it?
Nark Order
04-30-2005, 11:48 AM
It only has to be winning titles that were available to you, Triple H was never a light heavyweight so he's never had the oppotunity.Idiot...
asphyXy
04-30-2005, 11:58 AM
Jericho has held every title, including the Cruiserweight.
Londoner
04-30-2005, 12:34 PM
Well make it abit more obvious its sarcasm then. It's not always easy to spot it on the net...i noticed the 'what a loser' comment could imply sarcasm, but wasn't so sure.
Nark Order
04-30-2005, 12:36 PM
lol @ ThugLife neg repping me.
SuperSlim
04-30-2005, 12:37 PM
Jericho is the freakin man
SuperSlim
04-30-2005, 12:38 PM
Well make it abit more obvious its sarcasm then. It's not always easy to spot it on the net...i noticed the 'what a loser' comment could imply sarcasm, but wasn't so sure.
come on... it was blantantly obvious. I saw it
Londoner
04-30-2005, 12:38 PM
After you neg repped me, just to even things up abit, you know.
Londoner
04-30-2005, 12:39 PM
come on... it was blantantly obvious. I saw it
For fucks sake man is it that important? I didn't notice it at the time when posting alright.Shit happens. Chill.
SuperSlim
04-30-2005, 12:41 PM
dude I'm just messin around. you take things way to seriously
Nark Order
04-30-2005, 12:48 PM
After you neg repped me, just to even things up abit, you know.
You took off 6 points... Way to even things up.
Londoner
04-30-2005, 12:51 PM
^I think you are taking things too seriously.
PureHatred
04-30-2005, 01:08 PM
Anyhow...here's hoping its more "when" then "if" Christian wins a World Title. And I think it would fit Captain Charisma perfectly if he went around mentioning the fact that he's a Grand Slam champion constantly in every promo.
Savio
04-30-2005, 01:13 PM
Does being a grand slam champion really matter? The European title and Light Heavyweight title were always a joke, being a hardcore champion didn't mean anything (until RVD made the title more credible than the I.C. belt), and he was booked poorly when I.C. champion. Only the tag titles he held with Edge made Christian so popular and meaningful to the marks.
BTW I really want Christian to be the World Heavyweight ChampionI think Kurt was great with the Euro belt.
Kane Knight
04-30-2005, 01:15 PM
Now Children, don't make me send you to the corner.
Londoner
04-30-2005, 01:20 PM
Anyhow...here's hoping its more "when" then "if" Christian wins a World Title. And I think it would fit Captain Charisma perfectly if he went around mentioning the fact that he's a Grand Slam champion constantly in every promo.
Especially the first promo after he wins it, that could be over the top like Kurt Angle's was when he won the WWE title.
Kane Knight
04-30-2005, 01:22 PM
Especially the first promo after he wins it, that could be over the top like Kurt Angle's was when he won the WWE title.
Or King of the Ring.
YOUR Hero
04-30-2005, 01:29 PM
The thing to remember, Christian doesn't need the belt to get over.
Now the belt isn't always used to get people over, but it is at times used like that. Don't be surprised if they keep the belt off Christian simply because he's so over at the moment.
Londoner
04-30-2005, 01:32 PM
I don't think it's a matter of 'getting over' i think it's more like he actually deserves it.
Kane Knight
04-30-2005, 01:59 PM
The thing to remember, Christian doesn't need the belt to get over.
Now the belt isn't always used to get people over, but it is at times used like that. Don't be surprised if they keep the belt off Christian simply because he's so over at the moment.
The belt isn't only about getting over, Hero. It's good marketing to put it on people who are over as well, beyond simply using a way to get people over. I mean, Did Batista get more over when he got the belt? Triple H, Michaels, Goldberg, Benoit, Orton?
The Rock?
YOUR Hero
04-30-2005, 02:09 PM
Oh for sure. I never stated the belt was solely used to get people over, but it certainly has been used in that manner.
I'm just saying, the need to put the belt on him, might be weighted by the need to keep it on say... Cena. To keep Cena over, and to tease Christian's winning. No need to rush Christian to a championship. It'll only de-value Cena and the belt... in fact the whole SD! crew.
Nark Order
04-30-2005, 02:12 PM
Yeah. I barely give a shit about Cena right now while he is the Champion. If he loses, I'm going to forget the bastard exists. Point taken.
YOUR Hero
04-30-2005, 02:12 PM
Bit of an incomplete thought there...
To have a RAW guy come over and win the championship right away or very soon, would be statting that the competition on SD! isn't that strong....
I love Christian, he's awesome. I however want to see the storylines and belts properly managed.
Kane Knight
04-30-2005, 02:14 PM
Oh for sure. I never stated the belt was solely used to get people over, but it certainly has been used in that manner.
I'm just saying, the need to put the belt on him, might be weighted by the need to keep it on say... Cena. To keep Cena over, and to tease Christian's winning. No need to rush Christian to a championship. It'll only de-value Cena and the belt... in fact the whole SD! crew.
I think Cena's slowly devaluing himself. The fact that there were JBL chants at Wrestlemania makes me wonder if they're editing his segments now. I mean, sure the crowd loves him when he climbs into them, but that's a dozen or so kids and a few others who would probably cheer any face who went into the crowd.
I actually think Cena's gimmick is a strong way to go, but I'm kind of wondering what the FUCK is going on here.
Kane Knight
04-30-2005, 02:19 PM
Lost my train of thought. Depending on further reactions to Cena, it may be a good idea to drop the title off him and onto someone who might provide more drawing power. Will Captain Charisma be that man? I don't know, and in fact doubt it. I don't think CC's gonna get pushed right at all, because the WWE is booked by fucking retards.
however, devalued or not, it might be necessary to put it on them.
Plus, it'd rock to see Christian with Cena's belt. :lol:
YOUR Hero
04-30-2005, 02:29 PM
LOL, could you imagine Christian trying to figure out how the belt works... can't get it to stop spinning or something else along those lines.
Another thought. With Cena just releasing an album, I would think the WWE would want to keep him on top so's to promote, promote, promote promote... one thing you have to give them credit for is their marketing abilities. Guys with hot books, etc are usually on TV every week.
loopydate
04-30-2005, 02:30 PM
I can see it now. Christian's first promo after winning the title, and he gives the belt a spin, but it snags the bottom of his t-shirt. He spends the rest of the segment trying to get it untangled, and winds up unbuckling the belt and just letting it dangle from his shirt.
Kane Knight
04-30-2005, 02:34 PM
Bit of an incomplete thought there...
To have a RAW guy come over and win the championship right away or very soon, would be statting that the competition on SD! isn't that strong....
I love Christian, he's awesome. I however want to see the storylines and belts properly managed.
The problem is that Smackdown's already the B-Show, and will continue to be made to look like it in all likelihood.
Kane Knight
04-30-2005, 02:40 PM
LOL, could you imagine Christian trying to figure out how the belt works... can't get it to stop spinning or something else along those lines.
Another thought. With Cena just releasing an album, I would think the WWE would want to keep him on top so's to promote, promote, promote promote... one thing you have to give them credit for is their marketing abilities. Guys with hot books, etc are usually on TV every week.
And they probably WILL try to push him untill after his record's been out for a while. Which is unfortunate, because he'd get pushed whether or not the fans are behind him. That could be as bad for the belt as Christian coming over from Smackdown and dominating.
But yeah., Christian could do some seriously great shit with that belt.
YOUR Hero
04-30-2005, 02:49 PM
Now I'm just getting back in watching wrestling, but from what you've guys have been saying, Cena's popularity is waining just as they put the belt on him. Now I'd have to say (granted not much recent 'rasslin knowings) that they probably held off giving him the belt until his album was released.
BigDaddyCool
05-01-2005, 12:42 AM
Yeah, Christian totally rules all.
NoRoolz
05-01-2005, 06:05 AM
Wouldn't the GrandSlam rules change now? What with the US Title being added and that? I don't know much about GrandSlams...:|
Tornado
05-01-2005, 06:42 AM
That would be great for Christian, it would add a lot to his character, which is pretty much perfect as it is.
Dammit they need to get a championship on him ASAP.
Kane Knight
05-01-2005, 08:48 AM
Now I'm just getting back in watching wrestling, but from what you've guys have been saying, Cena's popularity is waining just as they put the belt on him. Now I'd have to say (granted not much recent 'rasslin knowings) that they probably held off giving him the belt until his album was released.
Sadly...
1) They could have released the record sooner. I don't know why they held off. They could have even released it closer to around Wrestlemania FFS. And I don't mean they should have, I mean they were physically able to
2) Cena's popularity was waning before WM, and was low enough there were JBL chants in the match.
Nark Order
05-01-2005, 11:55 AM
I can see it now. Christian's first promo after winning the title, and he gives the belt a spin, but it snags the bottom of his t-shirt. He spends the rest of the segment trying to get it untangled, and winds up unbuckling the belt and just letting it dangle from his shirt.
LOL.
Nark Order
05-01-2005, 11:58 AM
To have a RAW guy come over and win the championship right away or very soon, would be statting that the competition on SD! isn't that strong....
Eh, I'm not so sure. Big Show did it a couple years ago and it seemed to work out fine. He was jobbing to Jeff Hardy on RAW and when he was traded to Smackdown he beat Lesnar for the title within a couple of months.
Xerzes
05-01-2005, 01:26 PM
LOL, could you imagine Christian trying to figure out how the belt works... can't get it to stop spinning or something else along those lines.
CC: Tomko, stop this crazy thing! *pelvic thrust to iindicate belt*
Goatboy: :wtf: *backs away*
Kane Knight
05-01-2005, 01:42 PM
CC: Tomko, stop this crazy thing! *pelvic thrust to iindicate belt*
Goatboy: :wtf: *backs away*
Christian: You're a problem solver!
Tomko: I'm not paid enough to solve YOUR problems.
Kane Knight
05-01-2005, 01:44 PM
Sorry, too articulate
Tomko: Buh :mad:
The :mad: is what distinguishes him from Goldberg.
UmbrellaCorporation
05-01-2005, 01:46 PM
Sorry, too articulate
Tomko: Buh :mad:
The :mad: is what distinguishes him from Goldberg.
:rofl:
If that smilie had a rat goatee, it'd be perfect.
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