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Old 04-30-2005, 10:44 AM   #1
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I just noticed this but If Christian wins the World title one day...
He will be yet another Grand Slam winner.

Intercontinental Champion
World Tag Team Champion
Light Heavyweight Champion
Hardcore Champion
European Champion

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Old 04-30-2005, 10:59 AM   #2
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Does being a grand slam champion really matter? The European title and Light Heavyweight title were always a joke, being a hardcore champion didn't mean anything (until RVD made the title more credible than the I.C. belt), and he was booked poorly when I.C. champion. Only the tag titles he held with Edge made Christian so popular and meaningful to the marks.

BTW I really want Christian to be the World Heavyweight Champion
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:01 AM   #3
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Does being a grand slam champion really matter? The European title and Light Heavyweight title were always a joke, being a hardcore champion didn't mean anything (until RVD made the title more credible than the I.C. belt), and he was booked poorly when I.C. champion. Only the tag titles he held with Edge made Christian so popular and meaningful to the marks.

BTW I really want Christian to be the World Heavyweight Champion
It only matters if they make it matter. For example, mentioning it, using it to hype him.
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Old 04-30-2005, 01:13 PM   #4
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Does being a grand slam champion really matter? The European title and Light Heavyweight title were always a joke, being a hardcore champion didn't mean anything (until RVD made the title more credible than the I.C. belt), and he was booked poorly when I.C. champion. Only the tag titles he held with Edge made Christian so popular and meaningful to the marks.

BTW I really want Christian to be the World Heavyweight Champion
I think Kurt was great with the Euro belt.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:00 AM   #5
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Of course it matters, god damnit.

Christian will be the fucking man.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:03 AM   #6
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Which they probably wouldn't bring attention to it...
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:07 AM   #7
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He'll never be World champion...

People actually like him.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:11 AM   #9
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It only matters if your name is Triple H.
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It only matters if your name is Triple H.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:14 AM   #11
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Trips never won the Light-Heavyweight title. What a loser...
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:21 AM   #12
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Trips never won the Light-Heavyweight title. What a loser...
It only has to be winning titles that were available to you, Triple H was never a light heavyweight so he's never had the oppotunity.

But yeah if Christian won the World heavyweight or WWE title, i think he would be the first to win every single title, and i bet that doesn't get mentioned, though i hope it does. This makes me want him to beat Cena even more now.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:48 AM   #13
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It only has to be winning titles that were available to you, Triple H was never a light heavyweight so he's never had the oppotunity.
Idiot...
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:14 AM   #14
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He'll be the first male to have held every title he could win. Michaels never won the Light-Heavyweight title.
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:28 AM   #15
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Sarcasm went right over your head didn't it?
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Old 04-30-2005, 11:58 AM   #16
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Old 04-30-2005, 12:34 PM   #17
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Well make it abit more obvious its sarcasm then. It's not always easy to spot it on the net...i noticed the 'what a loser' comment could imply sarcasm, but wasn't so sure.
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Well make it abit more obvious its sarcasm then. It's not always easy to spot it on the net...i noticed the 'what a loser' comment could imply sarcasm, but wasn't so sure.
come on... it was blantantly obvious. I saw it
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come on... it was blantantly obvious. I saw it
For fucks sake man is it that important? I didn't notice it at the time when posting alright.Shit happens. Chill.
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lol @ ThugLife neg repping me.
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After you neg repped me, just to even things up abit, you know.
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After you neg repped me, just to even things up abit, you know.
You took off 6 points... Way to even things up.
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^I think you are taking things too seriously.
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Anyhow...here's hoping its more "when" then "if" Christian wins a World Title. And I think it would fit Captain Charisma perfectly if he went around mentioning the fact that he's a Grand Slam champion constantly in every promo.
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Anyhow...here's hoping its more "when" then "if" Christian wins a World Title. And I think it would fit Captain Charisma perfectly if he went around mentioning the fact that he's a Grand Slam champion constantly in every promo.
Especially the first promo after he wins it, that could be over the top like Kurt Angle's was when he won the WWE title.
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Especially the first promo after he wins it, that could be over the top like Kurt Angle's was when he won the WWE title.
Or King of the Ring.
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Old 04-30-2005, 01:15 PM   #29
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Old 04-30-2005, 01:29 PM   #30
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The thing to remember, Christian doesn't need the belt to get over.

Now the belt isn't always used to get people over, but it is at times used like that. Don't be surprised if they keep the belt off Christian simply because he's so over at the moment.
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The thing to remember, Christian doesn't need the belt to get over.

Now the belt isn't always used to get people over, but it is at times used like that. Don't be surprised if they keep the belt off Christian simply because he's so over at the moment.
The belt isn't only about getting over, Hero. It's good marketing to put it on people who are over as well, beyond simply using a way to get people over. I mean, Did Batista get more over when he got the belt? Triple H, Michaels, Goldberg, Benoit, Orton?

The Rock?
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I don't think it's a matter of 'getting over' i think it's more like he actually deserves it.
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Oh for sure. I never stated the belt was solely used to get people over, but it certainly has been used in that manner.

I'm just saying, the need to put the belt on him, might be weighted by the need to keep it on say... Cena. To keep Cena over, and to tease Christian's winning. No need to rush Christian to a championship. It'll only de-value Cena and the belt... in fact the whole SD! crew.
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Oh for sure. I never stated the belt was solely used to get people over, but it certainly has been used in that manner.

I'm just saying, the need to put the belt on him, might be weighted by the need to keep it on say... Cena. To keep Cena over, and to tease Christian's winning. No need to rush Christian to a championship. It'll only de-value Cena and the belt... in fact the whole SD! crew.
I think Cena's slowly devaluing himself. The fact that there were JBL chants at Wrestlemania makes me wonder if they're editing his segments now. I mean, sure the crowd loves him when he climbs into them, but that's a dozen or so kids and a few others who would probably cheer any face who went into the crowd.

I actually think Cena's gimmick is a strong way to go, but I'm kind of wondering what the FUCK is going on here.
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Yeah. I barely give a shit about Cena right now while he is the Champion. If he loses, I'm going to forget the bastard exists. Point taken.
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Bit of an incomplete thought there...

To have a RAW guy come over and win the championship right away or very soon, would be statting that the competition on SD! isn't that strong....

I love Christian, he's awesome. I however want to see the storylines and belts properly managed.
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Bit of an incomplete thought there...

To have a RAW guy come over and win the championship right away or very soon, would be statting that the competition on SD! isn't that strong....

I love Christian, he's awesome. I however want to see the storylines and belts properly managed.
The problem is that Smackdown's already the B-Show, and will continue to be made to look like it in all likelihood.
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To have a RAW guy come over and win the championship right away or very soon, would be statting that the competition on SD! isn't that strong....
Eh, I'm not so sure. Big Show did it a couple years ago and it seemed to work out fine. He was jobbing to Jeff Hardy on RAW and when he was traded to Smackdown he beat Lesnar for the title within a couple of months.
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Lost my train of thought. Depending on further reactions to Cena, it may be a good idea to drop the title off him and onto someone who might provide more drawing power. Will Captain Charisma be that man? I don't know, and in fact doubt it. I don't think CC's gonna get pushed right at all, because the WWE is booked by fucking retards.

however, devalued or not, it might be necessary to put it on them.

Plus, it'd rock to see Christian with Cena's belt.
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LOL, could you imagine Christian trying to figure out how the belt works... can't get it to stop spinning or something else along those lines.

Another thought. With Cena just releasing an album, I would think the WWE would want to keep him on top so's to promote, promote, promote promote... one thing you have to give them credit for is their marketing abilities. Guys with hot books, etc are usually on TV every week.
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