Family guy V Simpsons

[Impact!]

Family guy V Simpsons, now I know this argument/topic has been done before, but I want to take a differant angle at it. By this I mean instead of comparing the shows/storylines and other things like that, compare the chracters.

Simpsons - Family Guy

Homer - Peter

Marge - Lois

Bart - Chris

Lisa - Meg

Maggie - Stewie

Santa's little Helper - Brian

Lenny - Quagmire

Carl - Cleveland

Milhouse - Tom Tucker's Kid

Kent Brockman - Tom Tucker and Diana

Police Cheif Wiggum - Joe

Ned Flanders - Mort



if there is any I forgot please add them in, but basically my idea is just for you to pick your favourite characters listed, or not listed if I forgot them, and well go from there.

discuss

[el fregadero]

After you get past like Homer/Peter they're all obvious.

Actually, the first one is pretty easy too.

[Buzzkill]

Peter

Lois

Bart

Lisa

Stewie

Brian

Quagmire

Cleveland

Tom Tucker's Kid

Tom Tucker and Diana

Police Cheif Wiggum

Mort

[mitchables]

Simpsons - Family Guy

Homer - Peter

This is a very easy comparison, since both Homer and Peter are standard Baby Boomer American Everymen, who have been handed everything in life and seem to coast by on stupidity.

Marge - Lois

Again, a very easy comparison. Both Marge and Lois are the matriarchal figures of their respective family, and, in essence, are the moral centres of their families. They are the ones with the clearest vision of right and wrong, what should be, and ultimately, possess unwavering love of their wholly dysfunctional families.

Bart - Chris

Here's where I begin to disagree with you. While there is no question that Bart and Chris possess subnormal intelligence for their respective ages, Chris lacks the basic punk-nihilistic tendencies that defined Bart Simpson in the 1990s. The character from Family Guy with the most similar anti-authoritarian stance is, in my opinion, Stewie. Both Bart and Stewie are mischievous, and though Bart lacks Stewie's obvious intelligence, they share a common ground. Besides, if you speak to anyone about their favourite Griffin child, they will answer 'Stewie'. Think back to the early '90s before The Simpsons became 'Homer's show', and everybody was in love for Bart for essentially the same reasons.

Lisa - Meg

Again, I disagree. Other than the fact they are both unpopular daughters in dysfunctional families, Lisa and Meg really aren't similar at all. Lisa's closest equivalent from the Griffins is Brian - He, too, is the voice of reason, the intelligent one. When the Griffins need a cultural question answered, they look to Brian. Brian knows all about legitimate theatre, and other such 'civilised' institutions; a streak of Lisa if ever there was one. It could be argued, in fact, that Brian and Stewie are the 'real' Lisa and Bart of the Griffins and that Chris and Meg are there to provide background laughs much in the same vein as Grandpa Simpson.

Maggie - Stewie

As I covered earlier - Stewie is a closer cry to Bart than he ever would be to Maggie. Besides, this is a terrible comparison. There is no way the two babies are even REMOTELY similar other than their need to relieve themselves in diapers. Maggie is cutesy filler - very rarely have the Simpsons writers made her the focus of an episode. If anyone, Maggie is closest to Cleveland Jr. (despite his obvious ADD problems) - as I said, cutesy filler.

Santa's little Helper - Brian

Come on. Are you even trying? Or did you just slap these comparisons together based on the simplest face value you could find? "Well, they're both dogs, so they're each show's equivalent. I am on to something here." Get out of my face.

Lenny - Quagmire

Quagmire is far more like another Qu- than he is Lenny. And that man is Mayor 'Diamond' Joe Quimby. Quimby and Quagmire are both notorious womanisers - a far more defining quality than being the leading man's best friend. Quagmire and Quimby are shady, sleazy men who have no ethical problems being the smut peddlers they are, and that is why I think they are a far better suited comparison.

Carl - Cleveland

Again, what is this? "They're both black, so they're the same"? Cleveland is Spooner St's good natured citizen. He is the owner of a local Deli, sorts his recycling from his ordinary garbage, and even makes sure his flag is inside when it's raining. He is Spooner St's Ned Flanders. Both men are moral to a fault, and though Cleveland may not share Flanders' blatant religious tendencies, he is still a very kind hearted and caring neighbour, opening his doors to anyone in need, on a number of occassions.

Milhouse - Tom Tucker's Kid

Let's see. I'm just trying to think where you made this connection. "Main child protagonist's homosexually-inclined best friend = scarcely seen sight gag with upside down face". I don't really follow you. Tom Tucker's kid is the Family Guy equivalent of Gerald, the monobrowed baby. They were both obviously created for the purpose of the joke, and have only appeared a handful of times. They don't really add anything to the show, other than a few cheap laughs for a set-up riff.

Kent Brockman - Tom Tucker and Diana

Tom Tucker and Kent Brockman are interchangeable. You got this one right. They are both shallow glory-hogs, more intent on meeting their own needs than those of the people. They live for media publicity, and will chase down any story, no matter how seedy or superficial. Diana should not enter into the equation though, you can't have two people as the equivalent of one.

Police Cheif Wiggum - Joe

No. I'm sorry. Other than being Police officers, the two are incomparable. One is an obliviously bad-at-his-job law enforcer, and the other is a straight-down-the-middle do-gooder. They are two extremes in a spectrum. However, there is another person in Quahog that is blissfully unaware of how terrible he is at doing his job, and is easily one of the stupidest people in the town, putting him right on par with Wiggum. I speak of course of Quahog's beloved Mayor, Adam West. It takes Wiggum moments of reflection to get the lighter side in Sideshow Bob calling him 'Chief Piggum'. Adam West thinks someone is stealing his water. They are both reluctant to fulfill their duties in their high civil positions, but both are firm in the belief that they are more than competent and that is a far more defining basis for comparison than a mere job position.

Ned Flanders - Mort

Since Ned is tied up with Cleveland, Mort is DEFINITELY not a good basis for comparison. He is a pathetic specimen of a human being. He has a low-level job in a generic pharmacy, and married a woman who inexplicably looks just like him. I'd say that puts him right on par with Mr. "Can I Borrow A Feeling?" himself, Kirk Van Houten. Both Kirk and Mort are sad examples of existence, and have far more in common than Ned and Mort ever conceivably could have.

I think you should have thought this out. :$

[Impact!]

Dude, you overthought this one. I was comparing them in status

Simpsons - Family Guy

Father
Homer - Peter

Mother
Marge - Lois

First Child
Bart - Chris

Second Child
Lisa - Meg

Third Child
Maggie - Stewie

The Dog
Santa's little Helper - Brian

Friend
Lenny - Quagmire

Friend
Carl - Cleveland

Basically Two First sons closest friend
Milhouse - Tom Tucker's Kid

News readers/reporters
Kent Brockman - Tom Tucker and Diana

There Police and are friends of the main characters
Police Cheif Wiggum - Joe

Just threw it in as both can be quite annoying and are on the respective shows reguly
Ned Flanders - Mort


Also i mentioned do your own, I was just adding comparisions that you could use, if you don't like mine do your own, just letting you know

[mitchables]

Dude, you overthought this one. I was comparing them in status

[COLOR=Yellow]First Child
Bart - Chris

Second Child
Lisa - Meg


Except Chris is the second child, since he is 13, and Meg is 16. Whoops. Also, if you REALLY want to be pedantic, Chris is the third child, since the Griffins had an elder daughter who Meg killed when she was younger.

The Dog
Santa's little Helper - Brian

Except Brian is so much more than just 'the dog' to the Griffins. He is Peter's best friend, and the most eloquent amongst them.

Basically Two First sons closest friend
Milhouse - Tom Tucker's Kid

Again, Chris wasn't the first child, and I wouldn't say Tom Tucker's kid is anywhere near his closest friend. :$

News readers/reporters
Kent Brockman - Tom Tucker and Diana

Yes, we got this one. Except why just Kent Brockman? Why not Scott Christensen? Is he not just as important? Can't be hating on the field reporter, you know.

There Police and are friends of the main characters
Police Cheif Wiggum - Joe

I wouldn't classify Wiggum as Homer's friend, to be perfectly honest. Not on anywhere near the level that Joe is a friend to Peter.

Just threw it in as both can be quite annoying and are on the respective shows reguly
Ned Flanders - Mort

So... why necessarily Flanders? A number of people appear on The Simpsons regularly who annoy the pants off people far more than Ned Flanders ever did.


Also i mentioned do your own, I was just adding comparisions that you could use, if you don't like mine do your own, just letting you know

You said you were comparing characters. Traits. Common ground. Not status. The two are completely different.

Example:

There are two women on a bus. Both are mothers with three children. One of them murdered her husband's family last night with an icepick and dumped the bodies in a river. But, hey. They're still both mothers, so they're the same, right?

And I didn't like yours, so I did do my own. Just letting you know.

[The Destroyer]

I'm with Mitch on this one, bit more thought could have gone into the comparisons.

But possibly not to the lengths that Mitch went to. :$

[Impact!]

once again your overthinking I tried to make it simple.

Also, thankyou, I forgot that meg's the oldest. I'll just change meg and Lisa to the only daughters, while changing Bart and Chris to Older/only Male child

And in your mind who do you beleive to be chris's oldest friend, as the only indication to him having a close friend is in the first ep of the new series

[Impact!]

yeah I admit I could have gone in to a little more detail :$ ohwell

[mitchables]

once again your overthinking I tried to make it simple.

Also, thankyou, I forgot that meg's the oldest. I'll just change meg and Lisa to the only daughters, while changing Bart and Chris to Older/only Male child

And in your mind who do you beleive to be chris's oldest friend, as the only indication to him having a close friend is in the first ep of the new series

But it's not a topic that should be simple. That's my point. These are, for the most part, complex characters, who can't really be slapped together in socially-based stereotypes. Mothers, fathers, only daughters (which again you're wrong on, since Lisa is one of two daughters. Try and keep up), etc. doesn't cut it with these characters, I'm afraid. They all possess unique beliefs, mannerisms, tiny little details that most live-action sitcom characters don't, and there is simply no way to conceivably pigeonhole them as you have attempted to do.

And of the episodes I have seen (which is all of seasons 1-3), I would not say Chris has any particularly close friends. I haven't seen anything from season 4, but that's not really my fault since it isn't being broadcast over here.

[mitchables]

I'm with Mitch on this one, bit more thought could have gone into the comparisons.

But possibly not to the lengths that Mitch went to. :$

You know how I am with The Simpsons, Baird. If you mess with me and my cartoon friends, it gets ugly. :(

[Impact!]

I haven't seen anything from season 4, but that's not really my fault since it isn't being broadcast over here.
I'm going off topic here, but I'm in Australia and I havn't seen all of family guy 3 or 4 but I know most of it, but yes I do see your point so I apolagise(sp?)

[Buzzkill]

Oh I thought you were asking to chose favorites

[Buzzkill]

Also, I think Mort is comparable to Gil.

[el fregadero]

lol calm down, mitch

[mitchables]

Also, I think Mort is comparable to Gil.

Good call. :y:

Gil :love: :love:

[mitchables]

lol calm down, mitch

What, I am fine. :$

[The Miz]

So they have to have the exact same qualities for them to be compared?

[loopydate]

Simpsons > Family Guy

Homer > Peter

Marge > Lois

Bart > Chris

Lisa > Meg

Maggie > Stewie

Santa's little Helper > Brian

Lenny > Quagmire

Carl > Cleveland

Milhouse > Tom Tucker's Kid

Kent Brockman > Tom Tucker and Diana

Police Cheif Wiggum > Joe

Ned Flanders > Mort

[MVP]

Homer

Lois

Bart

Lisa

Stewie

Brian

Quagmire

Carl

Milhouse

Kent Brockman

Police Cheif Wiggum

Ned Flanders

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