View Full Version : Oh dear God! CM Punk's new WWE gimmick
Dave Youell
08-05-2005, 03:38 AM
He's going to be a deaf wrestler, a deaf fucking wrestler! What the fuck, why dear god why
credit PWInsider
The Fugitive
08-05-2005, 03:46 AM
Great, so now we've got a mentally challenged wrestler, a diva with a mole on her face, and now a deaf wrestler.
Who the fuck is making up this shit?
Nervous Ferret
08-05-2005, 03:46 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nervous Ferret
08-05-2005, 03:46 AM
Great, so now we've got a mentally challenged wrestler, a diva with a mole on her face, and now a deaf wrestler.
Who the fuck is making up this shit?dont forget the boogeyman
Mr. Nerfect
08-05-2005, 03:49 AM
What.......the.........fuck?
Let the guy be CM FUCKIN' PUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously? Why couldn't they just have Jillian Hall play a female manager? Why did she need the growth? Why did Matt Morgan need to stutter. If they had let him talk normally, and let him show off his skills I guarantee he'd still have a job.
What is it with the WWE and thinking they're funny because they play off disabilities. Hell, I'm starting to think the Muhammad Hassan character WAS supposed to be a terrorist. Seriously, what the fuck?
Who the fuck sits around a table, discussing ideas for their wrestling show, and says "how about a deaf wrestler?", and who the fuck OKs it?
Drakul
08-05-2005, 04:08 AM
Uh, Nikelodeon writers,maybe.
ddpBANG
08-05-2005, 04:15 AM
He's going to be a deaf wrestler, a deaf fucking wrestler! What the fuck, why dear god why
Because retard was taken.
PullMyFinger
08-05-2005, 04:25 AM
WTF!!! He should've just stayed at ROH or gone to TNA...because as shitty as TNA may be....they at least give wrestlers more dignity than WWE does!
The Fugitive
08-05-2005, 04:32 AM
We're going to have a blind wrestler next, with a guide dog, I know it.
Actually, I'll be interested to see how that gimmick works. Especially during the match.
Drakul
08-05-2005, 05:00 AM
The dog mauls the opponent and cos hes the guys eyes its legal.
Eunos
08-05-2005, 05:04 AM
Just when i think the WWE can't get any Stupider..
What's next?.. A Wrestler in a Wheelchair?
Scarface
08-05-2005, 05:07 AM
ROFL
"Next up on when Shitty wrestling gimmicks attack, we talk to the man whos been given a deaf gimmick, Nick Dinsmore the retarded wrestler and A fitness trainer? Coming up next on When Shitty wrestling gimmicks attack"
Morgan
08-05-2005, 05:19 AM
Will his matches be signed for deaf viewers?
Hired Hitman
08-05-2005, 05:27 AM
*Ref calls for the bell*
Ref: come on, break the hold!
Deaf Wrestler: What?!?
:-\
Jalapeņo
08-05-2005, 05:54 AM
Smarks: "CM PUNK SHOULD BE ON TV!!! BRING HIM TO THE WWE!"
Vince: "Alright, I'm going to put CM Punk on TV, but with a deaf gimmick"
Smarks: "FUCK YOU"
Seriously, shut the hell up. He's going to be on TV.
Loose Cannon
08-05-2005, 06:55 AM
haha, welcome to the WWE.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 07:33 AM
Just when i think the WWE can't get any Stupider..
What's next?.. A Wrestler in a Wheelchair?
They had a guy with one leg wrestle basically, well... because he had one leg.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 07:34 AM
Will his matches be signed for deaf viewers?
What's sign for 'jobbing to Chris Masters on Heat' ?
What Would Kevin Do?
08-05-2005, 07:42 AM
You know, they could pull this off good... Have him be a heel. And have the refs like give him leway on five counts and shit because he can't hear.
Later have him handed a IC title shot because he's deaf, saying that since he's disabled, he deserves it...
Then later have it be a scam ;)
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 07:44 AM
Lol. That would be funny. If it were done in that way, his promos and interviews would be gold - could you imagine the Coach trying to get a conversation from him and just getting more and more frustrated?
Shaggy
08-05-2005, 08:13 AM
Well this definently sucks...im willing to give it a try but im not having high hopes...
Who knows....perhaps we might see the first Special Stable with .....Eugene....CM Punk...and...err....Triple H? yea he has to be in everything right
The Mackem
08-05-2005, 08:15 AM
If they go through with this it could be quite funny.
*CM Punk comes out to his music, only it's not is music but Chris Jericho screaming*
"You suck, get off my planet!"
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 08:17 AM
If they go through with this it could be quite funny.
*CM Punk comes out to his music, only it's not is music but Chris Jericho screaming*
"You suck, get off my planet!"
Lol. That's a good point - when is he going to know when his music is playing and its time for him to come out?
The Mackem
08-05-2005, 08:20 AM
*CM Punk has got another wrestler in a boston crab unaware that his opponent has reached and grabbed the ropes*
Ref: "1-2-3-4-5...RING THE BELL!!!"
Nickelodeon Woman: Well, I think that we should make him a deaf wrestler. Just think of the hilarity! He can't hear, so, get this, he TALKS FUNNY! HAHAHAHA!
Writing Team: No, that's a horrible idea, even for our standards...
Woman: Oh... Back to the drawing board... :shifty:
(Later that day.)
Woman: Here is our proposal on CM Punk's new gimmick Mr. McMahon. Everyone LOVED my idea.
owenbrown
08-05-2005, 09:23 AM
this is what i fucking get for thinking WWE creative could go any lower with their standards :shifty: :wtf: :foc: :rant:
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 09:33 AM
:|
Londoner
08-05-2005, 09:34 AM
And just as i thought i couldn't lose anymore respect for the wwe uncreative team, they yet again find another way to amaze me.If they seriously go through with this gimmick then i'm just gonna stop watching this shit.I'm sick of the WWE thinking we will watch this retarded crap.Until they get some proper writers then they can't expect me to watch that fucking bullshit.I've already stopped watching smackdown on friday nights, and I find myself switching over atleast 10 times already on Raw, if this gimmick goes ahead, then i will say enough is enough.
The WWE can fuck off with the stupid retarded writers for all i care.I'm tired of seeing wrestlers put in stupid gimmicks that make no sence/have no thought in them at all.I was actually interested in CM Punk for the first time in the WWE now they've gone and ruined that interest all they can, well sorry, that's not the right fucking way to get viewers.
Rant over.
Evil Vito
08-05-2005, 09:37 AM
<font color=goldenrod>I'm guessing he'll be a face......because they have to do the oh-so predictable "heels taunting him directly behind his back" schtick</font>
Disturbed316
08-05-2005, 09:38 AM
:'(
The Mackem
08-05-2005, 09:50 AM
Same reaction as when the news about Dinsmore's character broke, turned out to be OK though.
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 09:53 AM
that's why I feel indifferent about it until it's put on display.
Londoner
08-05-2005, 09:55 AM
The Mackem-the difference is that CM Punk was well known about.We didn't really know about Dinsmore before.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 09:57 AM
...and that CM Punk already has a gimmick. Perhaps one of the most innovation, refreshing and creative gimmicks that's been thought of for the last 3 years.
Londoner
08-05-2005, 10:01 AM
...and that CM Punk already has a gimmick. Perhaps one of the most innovation, refreshing and creative gimmicks that's been thought of for the last 3 years.
I've got a conspiracy theory...
The WWE doesn't want the marks to know that other wrestling promotions can come up with creative gimmicks, so this is why they have given him a new gimmick!
:shifty:
Just John
08-05-2005, 10:04 AM
Will his theme still have the ability to make you hit the nearest thing in rhythm?
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 10:12 AM
I've got a conspiracy theory...
The WWE doesn't want the marks to know that other wrestling promotions can come up with creative gimmicks, so this is why they have given him a new gimmick!
:shifty:
Thats not a conspiracy - it's fact. Vince doesn't want anyone to know there are alternatives to his product. So when CM Punk arrived, he instantly wanted to remove all traces of the past so people won't say:
"Hey, that CM Punk guy is new. Where's he from? Oh, that's right, he's from Ring of Honor... lets go check that out"
Vince is completely ruthless, just like how he didn't acknowledge WCW for years until kayfabe became blurred and he had too. Thats why when people like Paul London and Spanky debutted, they weren't wrestlers from ROH or anywhere else, they were local wrestlers who wanted one shot at the big time.
Vince has the monopoly, and he wants to keep it that way.
Londoner
08-05-2005, 10:18 AM
Thats not a conspiracy - it's fact. Vince doesn't want anyone to know there are alternatives to his product. So when CM Punk arrived, he instantly wanted to remove all traces of the past so people won't say:
"Hey, that CM Punk guy is new. Where's he from? Oh, that's right, he's from Ring of Honor... lets go check that out"
Vince is completely ruthless, just like how he didn't acknowledge WCW for years until kayfabe became blurred and he had too. Thats why when people like Paul London and Spanky debutted, they weren't wrestlers from ROH or anywhere else, they were local wrestlers who wanted one shot at the big time.
Vince has the monopoly, and he wants to keep it that way.
Well it will be a conspiracy until Vince admits to it.
And Vince may have the monopoly, but he'll lose the viewers if he continues like this.And i am very close to never watching the WWE again.
Afterlife
08-05-2005, 10:19 AM
And just as i thought i couldn't lose anymore respect for the wwe uncreative team, they yet again find another way to amaze me.If they seriously go through with this gimmick then i'm just gonna stop watching this shit.I'm sick of the WWE thinking we will watch this retarded crap.Until they get some proper writers then they can't expect me to watch that fucking bullshit.I've already stopped watching smackdown on friday nights, and I find myself switching over atleast 10 times already on Raw, if this gimmick goes ahead, then i will say enough is enough.
The WWE can fuck off with the stupid retarded writers for all i care.I'm tired of seeing wrestlers put in stupid gimmicks that make no sence/have no thought in them at all.I was actually interested in CM Punk for the first time in the WWE now they've gone and ruined that interest all they can, well sorry, that's not the right fucking way to get viewers.
Rant over.
Or, you know....since I'm fairly certain you don't sit in on the writing process...you could always stifle until you watch it and see if there WAS any thot put into it. After all...that's WHY we watch it.
The Mackem
08-05-2005, 10:21 AM
...and that CM Punk already has a gimmick. Perhaps one of the most innovation, refreshing and creative gimmicks that's been thought of for the last 3 years.
Which won't be as innovative, refreshing or creative as we've already seen it for the past three years.
The Mackem
08-05-2005, 10:22 AM
The Mackem-the difference is that CM Punk was well known about.We didn't really know about Dinsmore before.
I don't see why that matters.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 10:22 AM
I'm 22 in three months, I think I should maybe stop watching it too.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 10:23 AM
Which won't be as innovative, refreshing or creative as we've already seen it for the past three years.
I haven't. I've seen very little of CM Punk and I'm guessing most of the WWE mainstream, mark audience haven't either. I see no harm with bringing in CM Punk as he is.
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 10:24 AM
what exactly was his gimmick?
Kane Knight
08-05-2005, 10:26 AM
He's going to be a deaf wrestler, a deaf fucking wrestler! What the fuck, why dear god why
credit PWInsider
So he can tag with the returning Zack Gowen?
Londoner
08-05-2005, 10:26 AM
I don't see why that matters.
Well it does matter because CM Punk has got a fanbase now from that gimmick, and the people have connected with him through it,now when you change a gimmick thats popular& change it to a gimmick such as this on top of that,, your seriously risking pissing off the fans that know him under that gimmick.
I don't know him that well, but he seems popular on this board so i'm guessing he's well known outside of WWE.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 10:30 AM
what exactly was his gimmick?
I've read that he's a straight-edge guy who belittles everyone who isn't. I'm not really up with my ROH stuff, but basically all I've heard about Punk is that he's one talented mo-fo and has a genuinely good gimmick.
I'd really like to see some of his matches, especially those against Raven when beer was pour down his throat against his will. If anyone can get hold of anything to do with Punk and his matches and post them, then I'd really appreciate it.
The Mackem
08-05-2005, 10:34 AM
I haven't. I've seen very little of CM Punk and I'm guessing most of the WWE mainstream, mark audience haven't either. I see no harm with bringing in CM Punk as he is.
Well for starters it would be watered down which would have the majority of indy fans crying rape. "Oh my God what the fuck have they done with his character" or "meh, it was better in ROH", he won't be in the main event for obvious reasons and he won't be able to use some of his moves especially the Pepsi plunge.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 10:35 AM
Well it does matter because CM Punk has got a fanbase now from that gimmick, and the people have connected with him through it,now when you change a gimmick thats popular& change it to a gimmick such as this on top of that,, your seriously risking pissing off the fans that know him under that gimmick.
I don't know him that well, but he seems popular on this board so i'm guessing he's well known outside of WWE.
Foley details an experience that happened to him when he joined the WWF in 'Have a Nice Day' which is very similar to this. Basically, he'd been Cactus Jack for years and had adapted and very convincing and powerful character. He wanted to stay as Jack and couldn't see why Vince wanted to give him a god awful 'Mason the Mutilator' (later changed into Mankind) gimmick.
But to his credit, Foley took it as a challenge. He worked with it and evolved into one of the most successful gimmicks to date. CM Punk should be able to do the same, and what has already been suggested - that one day he reveales its a swerve and a hoax - would be a great idea for the future if he catches on in the big leagues.
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 10:35 AM
well the gimmick doesn't sound to original
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 10:37 AM
Well for starters it would be watered down which would have the majority of indy fans crying rape. "Oh my God what the fuck have they done with his character" or "meh, it was better in ROH", he won't be in the main event for obvious reasons and he won't be able to use some of his moves especially the Pepsi plunge.
So what, its going to be watered down? So what, indy fans will cry rape? Indy fans cry rape at everything the WWE do, why should either party care about this? Indy fans will continue not to watch WWE television and WWE would have a wrestler with a gimmick which has been a proven hit in smaller territories. It's worth taking the risk, especially since they'll only be upsetting a bunch of inbreed ROH fans who hate their guts anyway.
The Mackem
08-05-2005, 10:37 AM
Well it does matter because CM Punk has got a fanbase now from that gimmick, and the people have connected with him through it,now when you change a gimmick thats popular& change it to a gimmick such as this on top of that,, your seriously risking pissing off the fans that know him under that gimmick.
I don't know him that well, but he seems popular on this board so i'm guessing he's well known outside of WWE.
He's either well known in the mainstream or he's not, we need to get this clear before we start discussing it.
The fact that the WWE are changing his gimmick is neither here no there, it was bound to happen. TNA didn't use him exclusively in his straight edge gimmick. In fact they almost had him cry on screen "Raven we need you sob sob".
CM Punk is a good, intelligent wrestler, if anyone can pull off a stupid gimmick to perfection, it's him.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 10:39 AM
well the gimmick doesn't sound to original
You mean it's a bit like HBK but with alcohol and drugs instead of wrong religious decisions? You're probably right.
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 10:40 AM
well I'm just sayin, how hard could it be to find someone to pull off that sort ofgimmick. I was thinkin it was somethin truly original and wow. Instead it's like :| wow
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 10:40 AM
He's either well known in the mainstream or he's not, we need to get this clear before we start discussing it.
The fact that the WWE are changing his gimmick is neither here no there, it was bound to happen. TNA didn't use him exclusively in his straight edge gimmick. In fact they almost had him cry on screen "Raven we need you sob sob".
CM Punk is a good, intelligent wrestler, if anyone can pull off a stupid gimmick to perfection, it's him.
All the best to him. Like I said with my Foley comparison, if he's a genuine talent he'll run with the ball and evolve with the character.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 10:43 AM
well I'm just sayin, how hard could it be to find someone to pull off that sort ofgimmick. I was thinkin it was somethin truly original and wow. Instead it's like :| wow
No, its not groundbreaking. It's just something that I'd like to see more of. Personally, I hate the majority of straight-edge kids. Fair play for resisting temptation and fighting off the urges that come with peer pressure and modern day societal pressures, but it's their inflated sense of superiority and their desire to tell just about everyone how marvellous they are.
So, I'd love to see someone like that get the crap beaten out of them every week. For me, he's the perfect heel.
Skippord
08-05-2005, 10:43 AM
Well for starters it would be watered down which would have the majority of indy fans crying rape. "Oh my God what the fuck have they done with his character" or "meh, it was better in ROH", he won't be in the main event for obvious reasons and he won't be able to use some of his moves especially the Pepsi plunge.
He couldnt use the Pepsi Plunge cause he would have no balence at all:shifty:
Seriously though this is a bad Idea he will be fired when the gimmick doesnt take off
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 10:45 AM
He couldnt use the Pepsi Plunge cause he would have no balence at all:shifty:
Seriously though this is a bad Idea he will be fired when the gimmick doesnt take off
if he's as talented as he is being made out to be, he can do this
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 10:46 AM
He couldnt use the Pepsi Plunge cause he would have no balence at all:shifty:
Seriously though this is a bad Idea he will be fired when the gimmick doesnt take off
Hopefully it will take off. But if it doesn't (how many deaf wrestler gimmicks are there afterall?) then he can either pull off that 'it was all a hoax' idea or go to OVW and come back with a new gimmick. By then, at least by WWE's logic, we'll all have forgotten about his old 'deaf' gimmick.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 10:47 AM
if he's as talented as he is being made out to be, he can do this
We need someone to post some of his matches so we can watch. There's only so far I can argue a man's side without actually knowing all that much about him.
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 10:50 AM
I'll download some, watch them, and post some so they can be seen.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 10:52 AM
Good man Slim.
If you really care, I might just rep you too. :D
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 11:10 AM
I saw the pepsi plunge and a short little best of CM Punk. 3 minute segment. so far so good
Londoner
08-05-2005, 11:16 AM
All the best to him. Like I said with my Foley comparison, if he's a genuine talent he'll run with the ball and evolve with the character.
Only difference is back then the writers knew what they were doing.The WWE got lucky with Eugene, but they're pushing their luck here.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:17 AM
Nice. Share the wealth?
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:20 AM
Only difference is back then the writers knew what they were doing.The WWE got lucky with Eugene, but they're pushing their luck here.
The writers knew what they were doing? All respect to the previous writing team, but putting the charismatic Mick Foley in a custome that, by his words, made him look like a 'giant poop' and making him talk out of a boiler room probably wasn't the soundest gimmick ever.
The WWE did get very lucky with Eugene. They tweaked the character a few weeks in just at the right time before it started getting offensive. Eugene is a tremendous gimmick, which also owes a lot of its success to how much of a talented man Nick Dinsmore is. You can't put any old wrestler in something as sensitive as this and expect it to succeed.
thecc
08-05-2005, 11:20 AM
If I can figure out how to rip dvds I can rip the dog collar match with raven. I think Punk is an extremely talented wrestler and as much as I hate this gimmick I have faith in Punk and that he will make the best of it. Hey also maybe he could be deaf and straight edge:shifty:.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:23 AM
If I can figure out how to rip dvds I can rip the dog collar match with raven. I think Punk is an extremely talented wrestler and as much as I hate this gimmick I have faith in Punk and that he will make the best of it. Hey also maybe he could be deaf and straight edge:shifty:.
If you can post that match then I'd rep you until your ass was sore.
I've no idea how those two are connected though :shifty:
Londoner
08-05-2005, 11:24 AM
The writers knew what they were doing? All respect to the previous writing team, but putting the charismatic Mick Foley in a custome that, by his words, made him look like a 'giant poop' and making him talk out of a boiler room probably wasn't the soundest gimmick ever.
The WWE did get very lucky with Eugene. They tweaked the character a few weeks in just at the right time before it started getting offensive. Eugene is a tremendous gimmick, which also owes a lot of its success to how much of a talented man Nick Dinsmore is. You can't put any old wrestler in something as sensitive as this and expect it to succeed.
What i meant was they probably knew how to pull it off and you would've had faith back then for them to do so, now its like we expect them to fail.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:27 AM
True. If we were all smarks on an internet forum back in the mid 90s (the peak of ridiculous gimmicks) this would be an everyday occurance. You just don't expect it now.
Maybe it's a self fulfilling prophecy. We think Punk is going to fail, so we bitch and moan about the gimmick and we don't watch and support him or buy his merch, and then the WWE thinks it isn't catching on so they pull the plug. Then we'll all be sad, pretty much like with what has happened with Hassan. I know I'm not the only one who misses him.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:28 AM
...and Mordecai. We were all too busy whinging that we didn't take enough attention, and one day, he's jobbing to a hat in OVW.
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 11:29 AM
hey I liked the Mordecai gimmick
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:33 AM
It was good. But I was too busy bitching out how pants I though it was that I never really wanted him to succeed. Now that he's gone, I feel sad.
Londoner
08-05-2005, 11:34 AM
Mordecai was a good gimmick, but the writers reminded us of how shit they're.
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 11:36 AM
I think he pulled the character off rather well. I'm still downloading a few more matches. the best of CM Punk 3 minute segment is being uplaoded right now
Skippord
08-05-2005, 11:36 AM
If you can post that match then I'd rape you until your ass was sore.
I've no idea how those two are connected though :shifty:
:D
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:37 AM
It was a good idea. Some crazy lunatic religious guy who beat on everyone who sinned. It's just that they took it too seriously and made me walk out to scary music. It'd be nice to see him played in a similar sort of way to (speak of the devil) CM Punk, who is frustrated by the sinful world around him and wants to take matters into his own hands.
Kane Knight
08-05-2005, 11:37 AM
Mordecai was a good gimmick, but the writers reminded us of how shit they're.
Good Gimmick, shit wrestler.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:38 AM
I think he pulled the character off rather well. I'm still downloading a few more matches. the best of CM Punk 3 minute segment is being uplaoded right now
I love you Slim... in that platonic sort of way :shifty:
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:39 AM
Good Gimmick, shit wrestler.
I honestly thought it was Matt Capotelli for the first few weeks. I'd keep rubbing my eyes in amazement and say "Wow, he's really bulked up... and increased in height by several inches"
I'm not the sharpest tool in the drawer
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:41 AM
Skippord, you are my favourite noob. Can I adopt you like some people adopt zoo animals?
Londoner
08-05-2005, 11:41 AM
Good Gimmick, shit wrestler.
We didn't really see enough of him to decide if he was a shit wrestler or not, how many matches did he have?Only one i remember was his first one against S2H.Putting him against jobbers is not going to work.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:41 AM
Jobber against jobber, and worse still, it was on the midcard of a PPV!
Londoner
08-05-2005, 11:43 AM
Jobber against jobber, and worse still, it was on the midcard of a PPV!
I still remember the boring chants in that match.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:44 AM
I was in the pisser, or getting more pringles from the kitchen... i forget which
Corkscrewed
08-05-2005, 11:47 AM
wow, hot topic
I think it can work, and it's the sort of thing they can renege (sp?) upon relatively easily.
Like a few people have said, if he's that good, he can do this. It's got the potential to be pretty entertaining.
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 11:48 AM
http://rapidshare.de/files/3682006/Best_of_CM_Punk.wmv.html
and I downloaded that match of Mordecai vs. S2H from teh PPV. only because I wanted a match with him in it. :p
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:49 AM
It definately has its advantages - like him not hearing the ref during matches or stumbling through interviews with a frustrated Coach. But it's just me, but I don't want to see another comedy character, especially with someone as respected and idolised as Punk.
Chavo Classic
08-05-2005, 11:50 AM
http://rapidshare.de/files/3682006/Best_of_CM_Punk.wmv.html
and I downloaded that match of Mordecai vs. S2H from teh PPV. only because I wanted a match with him in it. :p
You... da.... MAN slim! and other generic street slang.
Kane Knight
08-05-2005, 11:51 AM
We didn't really see enough of him to decide if he was a shit wrestler or not, how many matches did he have?Only one i remember was his first one against S2H.Putting him against jobbers is not going to work.
I have faith enough in the WWE that if they decide someone's too green and pop him down to OVW, it's probably because they ARE too green.
What I saw was garbage, and I didn't buy him in the gimmick anyway. He looked like a frustrated D&D geek who's angry at the world...
...And I should know...We can smell our own. ;)
Kane Knight
08-05-2005, 11:53 AM
wow, hot topic
I think it can work, and it's the sort of thing they can renege (sp?) upon relatively easily.
Like a few people have said, if he's that good, he can do this. It's got the potential to be pretty entertaining.
Being deaf is sometimes reversible, I should know. The question is, will the WWE be able to take it back without being totally stupid?
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 11:57 AM
Being deaf is sometimes reversible, I should know. The question is, will the WWE be able to take it back without being totally stupid?
I know the answer to that one.
no.
Innovator
08-05-2005, 12:18 PM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Now that thats out of my system, if anyone can make this good, it's Punk. I mean in ROH he can cut a quick promo and have the crowd hate him just like that. For close to two years he was the most hated guy before becoming the top face in the company. Even if he is gonna be deaf, HE IS STILL BETTER THAN YOU
Innovator
08-05-2005, 12:32 PM
btw I don't see a link to it on PWInsider
Jonster
08-05-2005, 12:33 PM
I'm 22 in three months, I think I should maybe stop watching it too.
Age is no reason, I'm 23 next month.
KingofOldSchool
08-05-2005, 12:44 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Well at least he'll be getting paid better.
If he was so smart, he would know what he was getting into when he signed that contract.
I weep for any remaining dignity he'll have after WWE.
BigDaddyCool
08-05-2005, 01:03 PM
Didn't CM Punk quit wrestling when Candito died?
The One
08-05-2005, 01:28 PM
He was talking out of hurt...
Just like people here who seem to be so butt hurt they are done watching wrestlign forever. Hey guys look at it this way. CM Punk has busted his ass right? Hell yeah. So let him come up to WWE, do whatever shit gimmick they give him, if he makes it work then yeah he has a million dollar plus contract, if he doesn't make it work, that's too bad, but at least he had a year where he was getting paid more money then he would on the indies to work 2 or 3 days a week instead of 6 or 7. He is released and goes back to doing what he was doing before only with a little more money and a better rested body.
Win-Win if you ask me.
The Mackem
08-05-2005, 01:47 PM
btw I don't see a link to it on PWInsider
I heard earlier that it was taken down.
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 02:09 PM
He was talking out of hurt...
Just like people here who seem to be so butt hurt they are done watching wrestlign forever. Hey guys look at it this way. CM Punk has busted his ass right? Hell yeah. So let him come up to WWE, do whatever shit gimmick they give him, if he makes it work then yeah he has a million dollar plus contract, if he doesn't make it work, that's too bad, but at least he had a year where he was getting paid more money then he would on the indies to work 2 or 3 days a week instead of 6 or 7. He is released and goes back to doing what he was doing before only with a little more money and a better rested body.
Win-Win if you ask me.
:y: like the way you think
matter of fact here is a 4 way matchup featurin CM, Christopher Daniels, Frankie, and some other guy.
http://rapidshare.de/files/2305269/ROH_-_Christopher_Daniels_vs._Frankie_Kazarian_vs._CM_Punk_vs._Jimmy_Rave.wmv.html
Dorkchop
08-05-2005, 02:53 PM
having him be deaf wrestler is retarded. he should take a mean blow to the side of the head with a chair (while laying on the ground) and not be able to hear for a couple of months. It would be funny.
alvarado52
08-05-2005, 03:02 PM
Ive got an even better gimmick for him. Now hear me out: instead of CM Punk, we shall have an angle where these punk kids throw toxic ooze in a sewer hole, unexpectedly spilling onto a helpless skunk underneath the hole. He is then trained by a overgrown talking rat, and thus the debut of.....<b>CM SKUNK!</b>. Seriously, greatest. gimmick. ever.
The Mackem
08-05-2005, 03:17 PM
:y: like the way you think
matter of fact here is a 4 way matchup featurin CM, Christopher Daniels, Frankie, and some other guy.
http://rapidshare.de/files/2305269/ROH_-_Christopher_Daniels_vs._Frankie_Kazarian_vs._CM_Punk_vs._Jimmy_Rave.wmv.html
Jimmy Rave
Innovator
08-05-2005, 03:29 PM
how the hell don't you know the crown jewel of the Embassy you fat slob!
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 03:34 PM
I wasn't paying attention. I just download then upload
Disturbed316
08-05-2005, 04:24 PM
Alcohol Free
Drug Free
Deafer than you!
TerranRich
08-05-2005, 05:18 PM
I wasn't paying attention. I just download then upload
It was in the filename. :shifty:
darkpower
08-05-2005, 05:21 PM
CM Punk is deaf?
Wait, who was it that I thought was writing RAW now...no, not that Nick writer...talking about the guy who I THOUGHT was the head SD writer?
Maybe the Nickelodeon bitch and Laguana are co-existing right now.
But hey, we've judged too early with things before, maybe we are now.
Mr. Nerfect
08-05-2005, 06:56 PM
OK, maybe I was too hard on the gimmick before. If he plays it well, it could be good. If he's a heel, it has the potential to be awesomeness. Him looking the other way when the referee is counting to five while he holds in an illegal move, but not getting disqualified because of his "disability" would be one of the better heel techniques ever. But do you really think we'll see that.
I have a sick feeling the WWE will play it up to laughs, and try and make it warm and fuzzy. That's bullshit. There is a good way to handle this, and a bad way to handle it.
CM Punk as a heel/tweener/face trying to spread the message of his xXx beliefs, using the "deafness" (which would be a planned hoax by CM Punk) to his advantage=potentially good way. CM Punk playing a retarded babyface tring to live his dream but being ridiculed while lame jokes are made behind his back=horrible, horrible idea. This is either oging to be offensive in a good way, offensive in the bad way or inspiring in a good way. I think it'll be the middle option, personally.
How hard would it have been to have CM Punk debut on RAW or SD! claiming he was the REAL World Champion, though. The WWE has a good relationship with Ring of Honor, can't they ask them if they can have CM Punk bring the title on TV, and maybe even defend it in a potential classic with Paul London or Nunzio, or someone? Hell, have John Cena/Baista (depending on which brand CM Punk's on) actually cost CM Punk the ROH Title.
How hard would it have been to have CM Punk come in and start claiming to Triple H he is "The Game", "The Cerebral Assassin" and it's not "HHH" it's "xXx". A feud where some new guy debuts only to immediately begin to attempt replacing Triple H would be an instant classic, IMO.
How hard would it have been to have CM Punk come in, and accuse Shelton Benjamin of taking drugs? Have CM Punk explain to Shelton that he's seen the signs, and Shelton has not been himself in the ring lately, because they're taking their toll. A feud over the IC Title between the two would be a great feud. CM Punk can then move onto defending against RVD, with RVD's stoner habits being used as motivation for the storyline.
They could probably do all this WITH the deaf character, but unless CM Punk is portrayed as a wrestling genius, this could potentially be one of the worst decisions the WWE has made in a long time.
RemyRed
08-05-2005, 07:03 PM
He's going to be a deaf wrestler, a deaf fucking wrestler! What the fuck, why dear god why
credit PWInsider
*LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OF AT CM PUNK*
Shadow
08-05-2005, 07:07 PM
CM Punk as a heel/tweener/face trying to spread the message of his xXx beliefs, using the "deafness" (which would be a planned hoax by CM Punk) to his advantage=potentially good way. CM Punk playing a retarded babyface tring to live his dream but being ridiculed while lame jokes are made behind his back=horrible, horrible idea. This is either oging to be offensive in a good way, offensive in the bad way or inspiring in a good way. I think it'll be the middle option, personally.
How hard would it have been to have CM Punk debut on RAW or SD! claiming he was the REAL World Champion, though. The WWE has a good relationship with Ring of Honor, can't they ask them if they can have CM Punk bring the title on TV, and maybe even defend it in a potential classic with Paul London or Nunzio, or someone? Hell, have John Cena/Baista (depending on which brand CM Punk's on) actually cost CM Punk the ROH Title.
How hard would it have been to have CM Punk come in and start claiming to Triple H he is "The Game", "The Cerebral Assassin" and it's not "HHH" it's "xXx". A feud where some new guy debuts only to immediately begin to attempt replacing Triple H would be an instant classic, IMO.
How hard would it have been to have CM Punk come in, and accuse Shelton Benjamin of taking drugs? Have CM Punk explain to Shelton that he's seen the signs, and Shelton has not been himself in the ring lately, because they're taking their toll. A feud over the IC Title between the two would be a great feud. CM Punk can then move onto defending against RVD, with RVD's stoner habits being used as motivation for the storyline.
They could probably do all this WITH the deaf character, but unless CM Punk is portrayed as a wrestling genius, this could potentially be one of the worst decisions the WWE has made in a long time.
Very very very hard according to the WWE. Because that would require them doing something creative. And we all know how much the WWE frowns on creativity.
Londoner
08-05-2005, 07:23 PM
He was talking out of hurt...
Just like people here who seem to be so butt hurt they are done watching wrestlign forever. Hey guys look at it this way. CM Punk has busted his ass right? Hell yeah. So let him come up to WWE, do whatever shit gimmick they give him, if he makes it work then yeah he has a million dollar plus contract, if he doesn't make it work, that's too bad, but at least he had a year where he was getting paid more money then he would on the indies to work 2 or 3 days a week instead of 6 or 7. He is released and goes back to doing what he was doing before only with a little more money and a better rested body.
Win-Win if you ask me.
I don't give a shit how much money he makes, i don't watch wrestling because wrestlers make money. I wanted to see CM Punk as CM Punk, not some fake deaf character.I'm sure he'll pull it off, but i was more interested in seeing the gimmick that got him so popular and signed up to the WWE.
darkpower
08-05-2005, 09:52 PM
I don't give a shit how much money he makes, i don't watch wrestling because wrestlers make money. I wanted to see CM Punk as CM Punk, not some fake deaf character.I'm sure he'll pull it off, but i was more interested in seeing the gimmick that got him so popular and signed up to the WWE.
Alright. But still let's give this a chance to even get out of the box before we judge if it sucks or not. We do that too much anymore. Let's at least show a bit of fairness and give it a chance. Even though the WWE creative has let us down before, we've been surprised before.
SuperSlim
08-05-2005, 09:57 PM
Alcohol Free
Drug Free
Deafer than you!
yeah... wait.:shifty:
Scootie Stankers
08-05-2005, 10:51 PM
Laguna Beach > 2nd Hour of RAW
Nuff Said
Loose Cannon
08-05-2005, 10:52 PM
no
Kane Knight
08-05-2005, 11:02 PM
Maybe he could scream really loud, because he's convinced he's not deaf.
At least the Austin chance will have a place...
SuperSlim
08-06-2005, 12:04 AM
I was gonna post the match he had on Heat against Val Venis but that match really sucked. sucked so bad I deleted it not wanting to ever see it again.
Mr. Nerfect
08-06-2005, 02:19 AM
I was gonna post the match he had on Heat against Val Venis but that match really sucked. sucked so bad I deleted it not wanting to ever see it again.
Meh, I quite liked that match.
ddpBANG
08-06-2005, 07:49 AM
Well, at least maybe Punk can re-gain his hearing in an angle. Think of the Hell Dinsmore has to go through. He can never not be a wrestling retard.
Londoner
08-06-2005, 07:50 AM
Alright. But still let's give this a chance to even get out of the box before we judge if it sucks or not. We do that too much anymore. Let's at least show a bit of fairness and give it a chance. Even though the WWE creative has let us down before, we've been surprised before.
I just said i'm sure he can pull it off, so that means i'm giving it a chance but at the sametime being critical.Because even if it does work, its a retarded decision to do this, but they do have a history of doing stuff like this.
Vince would use the excuse that its 'sports entertainment' though...
:roll:
ddpBANG
08-06-2005, 07:51 AM
Skippord, you are my favourite noob. Can I adopt you like some people adopt zoo animals?
Well, thanks a fucking lot. :'(
RemyRed
08-06-2005, 08:47 AM
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Now that thats out of my system, if anyone can make this good, it's Punk. I mean in ROH he can cut a quick promo and have the crowd hate him just like that. For close to two years he was the most hated guy before becoming the top face in the company. Even if he is gonna be deaf, HE IS STILL BETTER THAN YOU
Yes but his promos will be all the more annoying (since deaf people talk funny) and for the most part I read he has a valet. So most likely she will be doing his promos for him.
Someone1001
08-06-2005, 08:57 AM
...This is pretty stupid. Considering the fact that everyone knows that the wrestlers talk to eachother durring the match. Which I suppose CM Punk is supposed to pretend he can't hear?
Y'know how they keep saying wrestling goes in cycles? I guess it's at the point where they're purposely making the product as bad as possible so that anything they do later looks like a million bucks in comparison.
Impact!
08-06-2005, 09:10 AM
Yes but his promos will be all the more annoying (since deaf people talk funny) and for the most part I read he has a valet. So most likely she will be doing his promos for him.
nah, they said on pwrestlingnews.com that they had already jinxed the idea of a manager/valet for punk
Batsu
08-06-2005, 10:40 AM
WWE at work again.
Man, whoever is on their team needs to be FIRED. The downfall of WWE are the outlandish, bullshit characters, such as this one. I don't think they can even "Hassan" or "Eugene" this gimmick.
TerranRich
08-06-2005, 03:43 PM
Well, at least maybe Punk can re-gain his hearing in an angle. Think of the Hell Dinsmore has to go through. He can never not be a wrestling retard.
Not necessarily true. As people have discussed before on here, Eugene could easily turn heel by revealing he'd been fooling us all along, but only after he gets free stuff and an easy ride and maybe a few chicks (out of pity) like Christy.
I see Eugene "innocently" making passes at Christy, and eventually getting a little "hoo-hah" on the side. Then Eugene comes out, brags that he had Christy, and reveals he's been shitting us all along. :D
GOLD!
Mr. Nerfect
08-06-2005, 09:23 PM
Then you can have him join up with the Con-Man. I really like the idea of The Lords of the Ring in the WWE, and you could have had them make a bet that they could both fool the audience into thinking they were representing France/retards/same thing for cheap heat from France. Do it the next time RAW is in Montreal for the full-effect. Then have Christy Hemme say she really liked what Nick did for her, so she is paired up with the newest RAW heel tag team.
Kane Knight
08-06-2005, 10:28 PM
Yes but his promos will be all the more annoying (since deaf people talk funny) and for the most part I read he has a valet. So most likely she will be doing his promos for him.
Just curious. Ever seen "See No Evil, Hear No Evil?"
Gene Wilder plays a completely deaf guy who speaks perffectly fine. Hello, suspension of disbelief.
blind has already been done guys
remember Nidia?
well... neither do i
Skippord
08-07-2005, 10:06 AM
Where Is the Damn Mute Gimmick
jindrak
08-07-2005, 02:53 PM
I think its a very Zach Gowen-esque angle. The WWE could tell an emotional and uplifting storyling with the angle, or they turn it into a farce.
Dinsmore plays the role of a mentally challenged wrestler tremendously. He makes you susend your belief and actually believe he is the character he plays.
If CM Punk's acting talents are up to par with Dinsmore, I think it might be a worthwhile angle to do.
RemyRed
08-07-2005, 03:47 PM
Just curious. Ever seen "See No Evil, Hear No Evil?"
Gene Wilder plays a completely deaf guy who speaks perffectly fine. Hello, suspension of disbelief.
That movie was great. In fact they should bring back The Cat Ernest Miller as a blind wrestler and team them up.
RemyRed
08-07-2005, 04:33 PM
http://www.cmpunk.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=146&st=0&#entry1377
That should make some people happy
Skippord
08-07-2005, 10:27 PM
Oh Thank God
The Naitch
08-07-2005, 10:43 PM
swerve! Brock is behind this
loopydate
08-08-2005, 09:23 PM
[The night Austin makes his inevitable one-off appearance]
AUSTIN: Hi.
PUNK: What?
AUSTIN: What?
[Awkward silence, then they both leave.]
The Naitch
08-08-2005, 11:41 PM
lol
Savio
08-08-2005, 11:43 PM
Have him hook up with nidia
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