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BCWWF
11-08-2005, 12:49 AM
I'm glad my team isn't in the SEC. They always seemed to get the short end of the stick in the polls
The Outlaw
11-09-2005, 03:12 AM
Toughest conference and still get the short end. It's all good though, all we can do is win games.
mrslackalack
11-09-2005, 01:34 PM
It sucks UK is the SEC bottom feeder. ESPN and the local news said Rich Brooks will return next yr. I think this is his last chance since he will get to rercuit off probation. He said they will go to a bowl next yr. They have an easy non conf scheud besides Louisville and will have some winnable SEC games so we shall wait and see.
mrslackalack
11-09-2005, 01:35 PM
if Bama hadn't lost Portho, they would be number 3 in my opinion.
The Outlaw
11-09-2005, 03:52 PM
Big if. :(
Corkscrewed
11-13-2005, 03:28 AM
If USC hadn't lost to Cal two years ago, they'd be riding a 44 game winning streak, and if they win out, they would have been playing to tie the all time record of 47 wins in a row in the Rose Bowl.
If.
In any case, I had LSU over Bama and Auburn over Georgia.
BCS can breathe a huge sigh of relief now... unless either Texas or USC loses, and that'd be bad, cuz I can't see Texas losing. Which mean chances are that if one of them lost, it'd be SC (harder schedule to wrap up the season).
We should run the table though and meet Texas at Pasadena, just like I called it before the season started.
FIGHT ON! :y:
I think Colorado will find a way to knock off Texas in the Big 12 Champ game. Then madness will ensue and i'll be entertained.
Corkscrewed
11-13-2005, 03:36 AM
:lol:
Right, cuz Cal so beat USC. :D
Corkscrewed
11-13-2005, 03:37 AM
Seriously, though, that would be absolutely priceless. If that happened, I'd say neither Texas nor Colorado should make it into the BCS.
Either that or Colorado gets to take on South Florida and Texas has to play UCLA in the Holiday Bowl.
No whats hilarious is the thought of South Florida making a BCS game. Big East should have no one in a BSC game. Thats everything you need to know about the BSC right there. I hope for Notre Dame vs Miami. I wouldnt mind Notre Dame vs Penn St, but if i have to seen Notre Dame or Miami have to play either Colorado or South Florida. Forget it. I'm not watching.
I really hope Texas loses. Miami is playing like they ar for real. Miami vs USC would be amazing. Not that Texas wouldnt be good , but i think Miami can beat Texas.
BTW. I hope USC aint sleeping on UCLA. Thats gunna be a game right there.
LSU has become the feel good story this year IMO. What they have endured is amazing. I could see them winning a BCS game. Maybe playing USC if the card fell right, but that would take some miracles.
BCWWF
11-13-2005, 03:27 PM
Seriously, though, that would be absolutely priceless. If that happened, I'd say neither Texas nor Colorado should make it into the BCS.
Either that or Colorado gets to take on South Florida and Texas has to play UCLA in the Holiday Bowl.
You realize that whoever wins is automatically in a BCS game
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-13-2005, 11:47 PM
Will Blackmon had 151 yards recieving in his last game ever at the heights and Mathias Kiwanuka had 5 sacks haha. Ridiculous...5 fucking sacks.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-18-2005, 09:53 PM
Im leaving school tomorrow to go home and watch college football all day on my couch. RIVALRY WEEK WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
I'm going to the IU/ Purdue game. Huge rivalry in Indiana. Should be a heck of a game.
BCWWF
11-19-2005, 01:13 PM
I'm upstairs at the K-State/Missouri game. The stadium is pretty cool, although its too bad Snyder has to lose on his last night out.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-19-2005, 04:03 PM
COUGH COUGH COUGH TED GINN COUGH COUGH COUGH
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-19-2005, 04:03 PM
2 muffed punts ;)
25 seconds is alot of time to leave on the clock, but i think the Buckeys have this one.
Lloyd Carr should be fired or resign after this game.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-19-2005, 04:26 PM
Ohio state wins it :eek: Pretty crazy they over came all the fuck ups on special teams
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-19-2005, 06:09 PM
Auburns D is givin 'Bama the BUSINESS...9 sacks and 9 punts in 3 quaters :eek:
This Miami vs GT game is really good. GT just muffed a critical punt . Unbelievable
Fresno St is gunna win this game.
OMG what a crazy Touchdown for Frezno St. The guy gets hit at the one yard line and the ball pops in the air. Another Fresno guy pulled it out of the air and walked in the endzone.
I'm telling you right now. The stars are aligned for an upset. Fresno St 7- USC -0
McLegend
11-20-2005, 01:45 AM
USC game is amazing
Gonzo
11-20-2005, 01:46 AM
Yeah no shit go Fresno. Just went up 1.
that Bush TD should have broke there back , but they're still coming.
BTW Reggie Bush is the Heisman trophy winner. No doubt.
Fresno St is still alive.
The thing is. They are taking USC's best punches and they are still coming back. I wont be surprised if they score a td here.
If Fresno St. was named Notre Dame right now, this would be the game of the year.
Supreme Olajuwon
11-20-2005, 03:30 AM
Man Fresno State has a bunch of bitches on their team. They were talking shit all through the first half and then Bush decided to start trying and they all shut up real quick.
That cut back run across the field was 2sicc.
Gonzo
11-20-2005, 11:02 AM
Haha. I was hoping for the upset but the Fresno QB threw a terrible pass into double coverage at the end. I was pissed about that. I can understand getting picked off by a real great athletic play but that was just a dumb throw.
The Miz
11-20-2005, 03:11 PM
Rectal Pertruder shut up about USC losing, it isnt going to happen in the regular season. Dont even mention UCLA, they suck a fat weiner.
UCLA WILL BEAT USC!!!!!!!!
BCWWF
11-20-2005, 06:03 PM
I was on the field when Bill Snyder gave his farewell. It was pretty crazy, but K-State has one of the top atmospheres at a game I've been to. Only behind Nebraska.
Rain Man
11-20-2005, 07:33 PM
Holy shit I was going nuts for Fresno to win since Miami lost it would of put Penn State in the national championship game. Still got a chance with UCLA! Penn State Big Ten champs and in the BCS! If USC wins out I want it to be PSU vs. ND.
The Outlaw
11-22-2005, 01:56 PM
:(
Rain Man
11-22-2005, 04:54 PM
Sickest video.. They played this on the stadium screen before the OSU game.. But I don't remember it at all.. The Last of the Mohicans theme in the beginning gives you chillshttp://www.personal.psu.edu/users/e/j/ejd160/back.wmv
Jesus Shuttlesworth
11-22-2005, 10:15 PM
Reggie Bush with over 500 yards by himself in one game. That is just fucking stupid. He is so good its ridiculous.
Holy shit I was going nuts for Fresno to win since Miami lost it would of put Penn State in the national championship game. Still got a chance with UCLA! Penn State Big Ten champs and in the BCS! If USC wins out I want it to be PSU vs. ND.
I dont think Penn St would jump USC if they lost.
RoXer
11-25-2005, 02:08 PM
A&M is making this a good game.
BCWWF
11-25-2005, 05:19 PM
Yeah this is a great weekend for Big 12 football. Texas really didn't play well in the second half, and although it was fun watching A&M try to mount the comeback I'm glad Texas won, just because I want to see the National Championship, and if A&M won there could have been eight Big 12 teams with bowl eligibility with seven bowls, which could leave Mizzou the odd-man-out.
The beginning of this CU and Nebraska game has been good too. I used to like CU, but they were such bitches when they beat us a few weeks ago. When the guy had Brad Smith about two yards out of bounds and still threw him into the field goal net (uncalled by the way) I have hated them. Also, Nebraska, when I was there, was one of the most friendly and exciting football atmospheres, even though it was an awful game. I will give them credit.
Although I would be just as pissed if Iowa State somehow ends up in the Big 12 title game.
RoXer
11-25-2005, 06:42 PM
U of A :(
RoXer
11-26-2005, 07:23 PM
COME ON NORTH CAROLINA AND STANFORD.
If they cover, I beat you BCUUUUF.
RoXer
11-26-2005, 10:23 PM
Oh wait, no I won't. Whatever.
Joey Slugs
11-27-2005, 01:36 AM
Cheer, cheer for Old Notre Dame
Wake up the echoes cheering her name,
Send the volley cheer on high,
Shake down the thunder from the sky,
What tho the odds be great or small
Old Notre Dame will win over all,
While her loyal sons are marching Onward to Victory.
BCS Bound!
The Outlaw
11-28-2005, 12:58 AM
Don't really see how they deserve it, but whatever.
The Miz
11-28-2005, 04:29 PM
Hey cmon they beat Michigan :shifty:
Joey Slugs
11-28-2005, 07:27 PM
people don't like it, but thats the deal you get when you are biggest football school in the world (and don't forget the biggest alumni network). 9 wins and you are in the BCS. why do you think that ND has not joined a conference yet?
BCWWF
11-28-2005, 10:20 PM
On the same token, Ohio State has 9 wins and will likely be BCS bound
The Outlaw
11-29-2005, 02:09 PM
Just because that's the way it is doesn't make it right. Just because the media loves Notre Dame doesn't make them a better team and more deserving than other teams. Yeah they almost beat USC, wow. Who did they beat? A down Michigan team? Get out of here.
5-6
7-4
5-6
2-9
5-6
11-0
6-5
5-6
6-4
1-10
5-6
58-62 not even breaking even.
Also, something I found interesting:
One of the main arguments espoused by those who oppose a college football playoff is that it would diminish the importance of the sport's regular season, where every game truly matters. Apparently the 2005 regular season failed to receive that memo.
If every game matters, how is it that Colorado, having lost its past two games by a combined score of 60-19, will be playing for the Big 12 championship Saturday? All the Buffs have to do is avenge their 42-17 loss to Texas on Oct. 15 and that game, as well as their past two, will be treated as mulligans. Colorado, 5-3 in the Big 12, will enter into history as the conference's champion; the 'Horns, 8-0, will not.
If every game matters, how is it that Florida State, a loser in each of its past three games -- the last two by scores of 35-14 and 34-7 -- will be playing for the ACC championship Saturday? Beat Virginia Tech, and the 'Noles, which went 5-3 in the ACC during the regular season, will be playing in a BCS bowl, while a team like Auburn -- which went 7-1 in the SEC -- most likely will not.
If you wanna read it all,
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=Agl6.paSLmQo5.37lhDFu20cvrYF?slug=cnnsi-weekendrewind&prov=cnnsi&type=lgns
Gonzo
11-29-2005, 02:44 PM
The BCS is fucked, plain and simple. Happens every year that teams get shafted out of a spot in a much deserved BCS bowl appearance.
The Outlaw
11-29-2005, 06:22 PM
All the FO guys have to do (or whoever controls the whole no playoff thing) to see that there needs to be a playoff is look at how the D2 playoffs went this year. My school came third in their conference with an 8-2 record, and squeaked in the playoffs (partially due to a 76-14 last game victory). Our star RB was injured the last part of the year and healed up by playoff time. We are now in the Semis this Saturday. First three games were away and two of the games were against the two teams ahead of us in our conference. So, a POSSIBLE National Champion will be a team who limped and finished third in their conference (arguably one of the toughest, especially this year). Yet, we might be the best team in the country by year's end.
BCWWF
11-30-2005, 02:29 PM
No matter how you look at it, the BCS is always going to have problems. If they take the same format (for the most part) and make it into some sort of a playoff, I think it would be the best. Still not perfect, but it never would be.
One thing, there is an awful lot of time inbetween the final week of the season and the bowl games, this could change that.
The other thing, most of the bowl games have lost their significance. I don't know how they could add more value to the games, but when it comes to the EV1.com Houston Bowl with Cincinnati playing UAB or something, who really cares.
Supreme Olajuwon
12-01-2005, 10:34 PM
Did anyone see the picture of Virginia's field before the Virginia Tech game? Pretty good prank if you ask me.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3230/1483/400/Rival2.jpg
UCLA PULLS THE UPSET TODAY!
Joey Slugs
12-03-2005, 03:36 PM
63-3 Texas
9:52 left in the 3rd.
At what point should we start feeling sorry for Colorado?
(Another UoC fumble. :nono: )
BCWWF
12-03-2005, 04:20 PM
Did anyone see the picture of Virginia's field before the Virginia Tech game? Pretty good prank if you ask me.
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3230/1483/400/Rival2.jpg
photo? or description :rant:
BCWWF
12-03-2005, 04:34 PM
BTW, CU sucks
Reggie Bush is the greatest college RB i've seen since watching College football.
I retract every post i've ever made with the words USC upset in them and i apologize.
The Miz
12-03-2005, 05:40 PM
Thank you
And Reggie Bush is my daddy.
Corkscrewed
12-03-2005, 05:44 PM
200+ yards in less than 20 minutes of gameplay for Bush. That's rushing yards too.
WOW.
The Miz
12-03-2005, 06:18 PM
He's on pace to break LT's single game rushing record (406)
Corkscrewed
12-03-2005, 06:39 PM
Hm... not now as of halftime... plus he'll prolly rest in the 4th quarter unless the game gets close.
So Reggie's gonna have to get another 200 in a quarter at this rate. We'll see.
The Miz
12-03-2005, 07:33 PM
He had 228 at the half pacing him for 456
Corkscrewed
12-03-2005, 08:38 PM
Yeah but I was counting on the fact that he was gonna sit out in eh 4th quarter (which he basically did). :D
This says it all:
http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/LAC10212032206.jpg
Stepping all over the Bruins. :love:
Atleast the Bruins remembered they had a game. To bad they forgot to play it.
VonErich Lives
12-04-2005, 01:45 AM
ya know, I understand the whole "don't want to compete with the NFL playoffs" but the whole Weds night BCS Championship game sucks.
Corkscrewed
12-04-2005, 03:02 AM
Which I guess is why it's being moved to like the 8th or something next year. I think. :-\
VonErich Lives
12-04-2005, 04:06 AM
Which I guess is why it's being moved to like the 8th or something next year. I think. :-\
the 8th's a monday night, and at that point it's the NFL playoffs so it won't intefere with NFL games.
NFL actually has a policy about not trying to schedule games (at least on TV) that will interfere with highschool and college games, which is why the game played early due to the hurricane were not put on national TV.
I'd like to see it on a Saturday night, let the nfl do a 1pm/4pm for the first round of the playoffs and let the national championship be at 8pm.
Skippord
12-05-2005, 01:48 AM
hahahahahahahahhahaha God Dammit I hate the Buffs
oregon got royaly fucked by the system. Fl St. West Virginia and Georgia have no business being in any of these games... well maybe Georgia considering they lost there starting QB, but still. Comon this favortism shit is stupid. Oregon could play with most of these teams accpet the top 2. Its pretty bad. I'm not mad at the games. I think alot of them look good, but still Oregon got fucked again!
Yeah its pretty dumb that bowls look at who travels better than who is actually the better team. We need a playoff system.
Skippord
12-05-2005, 02:56 AM
CSU should be in the Rose Bowl :shifty:
VonErich Lives
12-05-2005, 06:52 AM
Yeah its pretty dumb that bowls look at who travels better than who is actually the better team. We need a playoff system.
I don't really pay attention to Boston College, but they're bitching that they didn't get in the "champs" bowl, because someone else will sell more tickets.
CSU should be in the Rose Bowl :shifty:
As honorary special olympic children.
CSU is lucky they're going to be chilling in San Diego. San Diego rules in the winter.
There should be a new rule. If you get beat by more then 60+ points. You are not bowl eligible
CSU, not CU. CSU=Colorado State
Nah, CSU rules. If I would have went there I'd prolly be on my way to the 619 in a few weeks as well. :'(
The Outlaw
12-09-2005, 06:12 PM
http://www.wrrx.com/images/DarryltStevens/nd1.jpg
:lol:
Gonzo
12-09-2005, 06:20 PM
Seen it, pretty funny.
Joey Slugs
12-09-2005, 06:43 PM
:nono:
Gonzo
12-09-2005, 07:02 PM
I'm an ND fan and that is pretty funny, c'mon.
Joey Slugs
12-09-2005, 10:42 PM
I'm an ND fan and that is pretty funny, c'mon.
Naw, it actually is.
Gonzo
12-09-2005, 10:49 PM
I mean its a little over the top but yeah. Not all fans are actually like that though.
Joey Slugs
12-09-2005, 11:20 PM
I know ALOT of south side ND fans like that.
I fit into the "didn't go to ND but I had family there so I grew up watching the games" catagory
Gonzo
12-10-2005, 12:26 AM
I really don't care what people think, I'm a casual fan of the team I don't get riled up like most people do. I've only watched a handful of the games and don't really get into any discussions about the team. My mom's cousin did go to Notre Dame though, played TE.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-10-2005, 01:45 AM
If Reggie Bush doesn't win the Heisman tomorrow I'll be really surprised. Dude is gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-rosssssssss
Gonzo
12-10-2005, 02:01 AM
Reggie Bush definitely. If not him, Vince Young. Leinhart doesn't deserve as much as the other two.
Skippord
12-10-2005, 05:38 AM
Nah, CSU rules. If I would have went there I'd prolly be on my way to the 619 in a few weeks as well. :'(
Thats where I plan to go
Seriously though I hate CU
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-11-2005, 12:00 AM
Reggie Bush finishes ahead of Young and Leinart...Why did they only bring 3 people this year? I think they should have brought 5, I mean everyone knows those where the top 3 guys but who cares? Let some of the other dudes experience it too.
i thought the reciever and QB from Notre Dame were hot.
The guy who QB'ed Penn State was good too.
BCWWF
12-11-2005, 02:49 PM
Did you see the results? Those three guys got far and away more votes then the next guy on there. To bring Quinn or somebody would have just been embarrasing for them.
The Outlaw
12-11-2005, 09:49 PM
I don't think anyone would be embarrased to have been invited to the Heisman presentation.
Yeah I heard Jim Rome ask Quinn about that and he said he would have loved to have been invited. You don't know if you'll ever get another chance.
el fregadero
12-11-2005, 11:49 PM
I don't think anyone would be embarrased to have been invited to the Heisman presentation.
Sorry, you're only the fifth best player in college football.
Skippord
12-12-2005, 12:08 AM
Yeah I heard Jim Rome ask Quinn about that and he said he would have loved to have been invited. You don't know if you'll ever get another chance.
I'd laugh if he got violently drunk and stumbled onto the stage
RoXer
12-12-2005, 12:16 AM
Affermative.
That would have be one hilarious situation indeed.
Skippord
12-12-2005, 12:26 AM
Punches out one of the other heisman guys
RoXer
12-12-2005, 12:44 AM
Oh man.
Do not stop.
Do not.
You are on a roll.
Skippord
12-12-2005, 01:05 AM
I suck back on topic Texas better fucking win
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-12-2005, 01:40 AM
gonna be such a good game
Skippord
12-12-2005, 01:52 AM
Yeah it is
BCWWF
12-12-2005, 05:23 PM
How about this then, they invited the only three people to receive significant votes, and they invited the only three people deserving of being there.
The Outlaw
12-13-2005, 05:46 PM
How about this then, they invited the only three people to receive significant votes, and they invited the only three people deserving of being there.
Leinart - 254/391 for 3450 yards 27 TDs 7 INTs 108.5 RAT
Quinn - 263/405 for 3633 yards 32 TDs 7 INTs 112.7 RAT
Come again?
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-13-2005, 08:13 PM
They also had similar games when they played each other.
mrslackalack
12-13-2005, 09:46 PM
I felt that Quinn should have been invited even though it was obivous he wasnt going to win.
Gonzo
12-14-2005, 08:34 AM
Leinart - 254/391 for 3450 yards 27 TDs 7 INTs 108.5 RAT
Quinn - 263/405 for 3633 yards 32 TDs 7 INTs 112.7 RAT
Come again?
Yeah all the hype about Leinhart wasn't really deserved. I really think he was even close to Vince Young or Reggie Bush because he plays for USC and they went undefeated from last year to now. Reggie Bush is the real superstar, as is evident, at USC.
The Miz
12-15-2005, 11:20 PM
Well he had more yards in less attempts this season than he did in his Heisman season. Leinart and Bush are both superstars. Bush has a total of zero completed 4th-and-9 passes to save the game, season, streak, and rivalry.
Bush > Leinart > Young
The Outlaw
12-18-2005, 05:04 PM
I think Leinart's best season during his career was his Sophmore season, which is just nuts. I'm a big fan of Leinart and Bush. I don't care for USC at all but those two guys are freaking ridiculous.
With that being said, Hook Em Horns. :)
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-24-2005, 09:53 PM
It would be kind of hard for Leinhart to put up lots of stats with two first round NFL running backs playing with him. I wish last years Auburn team could play this years USC team, I think that would be an even better game then the USC/Texas game where about to see.
The Miz
12-24-2005, 10:52 PM
Last year they said Oklahoma's defense was too much for USC and they got killed. Now they're saying Texas offense is too much for USC. I don't watch much college football but I dunno, I think USC is probably gonna crush them. The Big 12 isn't that good.
BCWWF
12-24-2005, 11:47 PM
I don't know, earlier in the year I thought Texas was prime to win it all, but USC came back and finished the season real strong. That being said, Vince Young is rediculous. When Texas played us, he converted a third and 30, and from what I know USC's offense hasn't been one of the nations best this year.
I think it will be a really close game, but I can see Texas winning.
The Miz
12-25-2005, 12:50 AM
This has nothing to do with the game, but Vince Young screams Eric Crouch.
BCWWF
12-25-2005, 01:04 AM
Except for just about everything about him
The Miz
12-25-2005, 01:40 AM
Vince Young is a really bad passer, and has a terrible arm. He is great in college because he is an excellent running QB. He has no chance to be a QB at the NFL level.
Eric Crouch was a really bad passer, and had a terrible arm. He was great in college because he was an excellent running QB. He had no chance to be a QB at the NFL level.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-25-2005, 02:15 AM
Yea I see Vince being a wide out in the NFL. I'm not a USC fan at all, but they will probably win. Texas's defense is better then USC's, but USC's offense is better then Texas's. Their QB, both HBs, and ATLEAST one WR is a first round pick, plus im sure a few lineman will go first round. Maybe evne Steve Smith, their slot WR, so they are pretty gross. Texas is really good, but they played in an extremely weak Big 12 this year, Oklahoma sucked this year that's why Texas beat them.
The Miz
12-25-2005, 02:45 AM
Yeah I was thinking he would try the NFL as a WR, but isn't he pretty big? Maybe he could play TE, I have no idea how his blocking and pass catching skills are though. I just know he's a good athlete and might be able to find a place to play. I guarantee you he will not start an NFL game at QB though.
The Miz
12-25-2005, 02:47 AM
double post
I could see Young getting a shot at playing QB in the NFL. If a guy like Seneca Wallace can, I think Vince could as well.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-25-2005, 03:14 AM
Well I think Young could be a back up QB (Seneca Wallce) or a converted QB playing WR (Ronald Curry, Hines Ward [kinda]) getting a lot more time/MONEY.
The Outlaw
12-25-2005, 12:54 PM
Vince Young is 6'5" 230 or so.
Matt Jones is 6'6" 240.
I don't think he's too big to play WR. I think he could play QB, as could Matt Jones, but they are both better off switching to a different position. IMO.
BCWWF
12-25-2005, 01:47 PM
Except Vince Young doesn't have an awful arm...
The Outlaw
12-25-2005, 09:33 PM
So you're saying Matt Jones does? lol
BCWWF
12-25-2005, 10:31 PM
What?
The Miz
12-26-2005, 12:13 AM
Except Vince Young doesn't have an awful arm...
Yeah he does. Texas passing game is a short passing attack, lots of screens and quick slants and such. Any throw longer than 25 yards Young floats it. He can get away with it play against Big 12 defenses, not NFL ones.
The Outlaw
12-26-2005, 02:37 AM
Matt Jones' arm > Vince Young's arm. IMO.
The Outlaw
12-26-2005, 02:38 AM
This coming from a pretty big Texas fan BTW.
BCWWF
12-26-2005, 02:48 AM
His passing game improved greatly this season, and he remains underrated. He may eventually fail and convert into a receiver, but if he goes into the draft this year he will be taken in the first round and as a quarterback.
BCWWF
12-26-2005, 02:55 AM
I don't watch much college football...
Yeah he does. Texas passing game is a short passing attack, lots of screens and quick slants and such. Any throw longer than 25 yards Young floats it. He can get away with it play against Big 12 defenses, not NFL ones.
That's a pretty strong assessment for somebody who doesn't watch much college football?
The Outlaw
12-26-2005, 02:55 AM
Well yeah of course he will, because he plays QB in college. Matt Jones was took AS a QB, but converted into a WR. I think he did improve his passing, but their conference is shitty so I don't know if he will make it in the NFL or not. I don't really see how he's underrated though. He plays for the #2 team in the country, was runner-up in the heisman, and is playing for a National Title. The media talk nonstop about him along with Bush/Leinart. I give him props, he is a freak of nature and has had a great year. Now, if you want to talk about an underrated guy who will probably surprise some folks (IMHO again), look to a city that's just north of me called Memphis.
The Miz
12-26-2005, 03:01 AM
That's a pretty strong assessment for somebody who doesn't watch much college football?
I've seen 5 Texas games (this year and last year). Every throw I saw him make over 25 yards looked awful. I've heard people whose opinions on NCAA football I value say the same things.
The Miz
12-26-2005, 03:02 AM
His passing game improved greatly this season, and he remains underrated. He may eventually fail and convert into a receiver, but if he goes into the draft this year he will be taken in the first round and as a quarterback.
Didn't say he wouldn't be a high pick, I said he won't play QB in the NFL. Akili Smith was a high draft pick.
BCWWF
12-26-2005, 03:02 AM
He isn't underrated, his passing is. Just because he is tremendously athletic (and probably because he is black) it is just assumed that he isn't a good quarterback. It's true for Brad Smith, but not for Young.
And no, Matt Jones was taken as a receiver. If the Jags drafted him as a quarterback, he would have gone sixth or seventh round. If Vince Young leaves college early, he won't be selling himself as a receiver. If he could only make the NFL as a receiver he would finish out college and be a late round draft pick. He just simply doesn't fit that stereotype.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-26-2005, 03:04 AM
Michael Huff is a sick fuck, nobody has really been talking about this when talking about this game. Everyone loves the offense, fuck that, let's hear about Bing and Huff.
The Outlaw
12-26-2005, 05:38 PM
I am also pretty sure Young has already stated that he is returning?
Gonzo
12-27-2005, 01:14 AM
Yeah I've heard numerous times that Young isn't that great of a passing QB. Haven't really watched him so I'm not going to say that is true or what, but heres to hoping its one hell of a show at the Rose Bowl.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-27-2005, 02:18 AM
Young doesn't have a "terrible arm." QBs with a terrible arms do not get considered for the Heisman. You can't bring up Crouch either, because he was an more than a "running QB" (Which I would consider Young) he was a straight up Option QB. It's just debateable wether or not his arm is good enough for the NFL. I don't know if he can make all the throws that an NFL QB needs to make, I personally haven't seen it but then again you really can't know for sure until he plays in the Senior Bowl (assuming he stays for another year) or goes to a combine.
Also, Matt Jones was chosen as a wide reciever, he even played wide reciever in the Senior bowl (much like Antwan Randell-El did) Saying the Jags drafted him as a QB is totally false, there was never an intention for him to play QB. Also, why would they draft a QB in the 1st round when they had Leftwich?
The Outlaw
12-27-2005, 02:29 AM
Yeah I got mixed up kid. He went through all the combines as a WR. I actually meant he was "listed" as a QB when they drafted him but everyone knew he was going to be playing WR. But then I remembered he just entered the combine and everything as a WR. I didn't watch the Senior Bowl so.
BCWWF
12-27-2005, 04:07 AM
Of course Vince Young says he is coming back. If Texas loses in the Rose Bowl I can see him coming back and going for the Heisman (although it won't be any easier).
That being said, I did a little research last night about it. Quite frankly I was shocked to see multiple people assuming Young won't be drafted as a quarterback, I had never even heard the idea mentioned before. What I found though, Mel Kiper has him as the third best QB prospect behind Lienart and Quinn. Then in a mock draft on Insider, it basically lists the players in terms of overall ability, and Young was No. 7 I believe.
Unfortunately, I think he holds just a little more credibility than The Miz.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-27-2005, 01:26 PM
Not to be a D-Bag but I am pretty sure Matt Jones was selected as a WR out of Arkansas lol
He even played a little wideout while in college too, much like Marcus Robinson from Penn State. I am about 99% sure Robinson will be a wide out in the NFL.
Maybe Young will play QB in the NFL, I personally don't see how, I've watched him play many times and I didn't really think he had a accurate enough arm for the NFL. Then again Vick plays in the pros and doesn't exactly throw the most accurate passes and he seems to be doing alright.
The Miz
12-27-2005, 01:58 PM
Hey BCWWF, bookmark this thread, and bump it and laugh at me if Young starts in the NFL. I don't care what Kiper's big boasrd says, I've seen him play and I don't like his chances.
BCWWF
12-27-2005, 03:44 PM
Whats his OPS?
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-27-2005, 05:30 PM
I find it hard to believe that Young is the 3rd rated NFL QB though. Watching a game right now with a QB that looks like he'll be a better QB in the NFL - Charlie Whiteherst from Clemson
BCWWF
12-27-2005, 06:09 PM
I should be there right now, but stupid Colorado had to suck up their last two games :(
Gonzo
12-27-2005, 10:42 PM
Not to be a D-Bag but I am pretty sure Matt Jones was selected as a WR out of Arkansas lol
He even played a little wideout while in college too, much like Marcus Robinson from Penn State. I am about 99% sure Robinson will be a wide out in the NFL.
Maybe Young will play QB in the NFL, I personally don't see how, I've watched him play many times and I didn't really think he had a accurate enough arm for the NFL. Then again Vick plays in the pros and doesn't exactly throw the most accurate passes and he seems to be doing alright.
Vick is going to be stuck in mediocrity hell for his whole career.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-28-2005, 12:12 AM
I dunno about all that. That is just your own personal opinion, that is an extremely debateable claim.
BCWWF
12-28-2005, 02:02 AM
No, I kind of agree with Stima. I think in time he could get receivers good enough to make up for his shortcomings in passing and eventually they might be able to find a way to capitolize on his rushing better. I mean if it works so well in college it seems like somebody will find a way to make it work in the pros.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-28-2005, 10:05 PM
From what I've seen, I just think Mike Vick has a better arm then Young. Doesn't mean Young can't make it in the NFL, but Vick is probably the least accurate passer in the NFL and just makes his money on being able to rush. Vick is also a much better rusher then Young, but again that's just my opinion. Young will also have time to grow in both areas, I just personally see him playing Wideout in the NFL.
Gonzo
12-29-2005, 01:03 AM
I would go so far as to say Michael Vick will never play in a Superbowl, let alone win one. There is a reason running QB's don't make it in the NFL, it doesn't work. Defense are too fast and complex.
Now I know I won't be able to come back to any of you and restake my claim about Vick, but like I said, I believe he will be stuck in mediocrity hell. Michael Vick is an athlete and in my opinion, won't ever be in the upper echelon of NFL QB's.
VonErich Lives
12-29-2005, 08:15 PM
Carroll signed an extention, years and dollars not released... I'd assuming $$$ wise it's in the range or more then Wies deal.
Gonzo
12-29-2005, 09:00 PM
Yeah I saw that. If I was in his position I wouldn't want to leave either.
Then again, on these college football boards I frequent, someone mentioned that the contract he signed could just be a recruiting tool. They went on to mention that even though he has a contract he could still possibly end up in the NFL, then used Nick Saban as the example for his theory. Anyone think Carroll ends up in the NFL this year, or possibly in the next few?
I mean he had a crack with the Jets so maybe he might want to try to prove he can do it at the NFL level.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-31-2005, 03:50 AM
I would go so far as to say Michael Vick will never play in a Superbowl, let alone win one. There is a reason running QB's don't make it in the NFL, it doesn't work. Defense are too fast and complex.
Now I know I won't be able to come back to any of you and restake my claim about Vick, but like I said, I believe he will be stuck in mediocrity hell. Michael Vick is an athlete and in my opinion, won't ever be in the upper echelon of NFL QB's.
I don't really think you can call it "mediocrity hell" when defensives in your division build themselves around stopping you. He will never be a "upper echelon" NFL QB becuase he will never put up the stats - atleast not passing wise. He really doesn't have to though, I'm not a Vick D-rider like a lot of people, but at the sametime I'm not a Vick hater either. He is a very different QB, and if you compare him to the typical drop back passer, yeah he is going to look like shit. The threat alone of the run makes the game so much different for the defense, I don't mean just able to scramble good, he is probably one of the greatest, if not the greatest rushing QB of all time. Not dropping back and passing every down makes it tougher for the defense, not easier. A defense is used to a 3 step, 5 step or 7 step drop. They aren't used to playing QBs with running back moves and WR speed. Its a change up for the defense and it has seemed to been working pretty good thus far. Look at the Falcons record without Vick, oh yeah, ask Green Bay fans if Vick is stuck in mediocrity hell, he only handed them their first home playoff loss ever.
And the Superbowl thing, never playing in one? He's already been pretty close once and never winning one? You know who else never won one..Dan Marino
Jesus Shuttlesworth
12-31-2005, 03:52 AM
To get back on College....LSU romped Miami tonight and then got into a fight after the game. I guess LSU players called a fake punt (after the coach's called a fake FG in the 3rd) on their own in the 4th quarter - pretty gangster if you ask me.
http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/GADM131123100_lower.jpg
BCWWF
12-31-2005, 06:24 PM
Brad Smith is so the fucking man it's unbelievable. Did anybody besides Outlaw watch the Independence Bowl? I was there, we came back from 21-0 deficit to win 38-31. Awesome.
BCWWF
01-01-2006, 03:43 AM
I just find it kind of interesting when ESPN is doing these polls about USC vs. past champs etc. If you look at the polling results, the states who generally seem to harbor the best fans stick together.
Tonights poll is who is going to win, and it is overwhelmingly USC, but then in Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Ohio, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi all sway towards Texas.
All I know is that I trust an SEC fan more than a Pac-10 fan, and a Big 12 fan more than a Big East fan, which are probably where most the votes are coming from.
Irish are getting worked.
The Miz
01-02-2006, 07:59 PM
Duh, they finally played a good team.
Gonzo
01-02-2006, 08:47 PM
Duh, they finally played a good team.
Yeah USC is terrible.
It wasn't a bad game, some piss poor defensive execution on the Irish side, those two consecutive third down conversions on tOSU's last TD drive should have been stopped.
All in all, something to build on next year.
The Miz
01-02-2006, 09:00 PM
Yeah USC is terrible.
The University of Stanford
Michigan State University
The University of Syracuse
The United States Naval Academy
Brigham Young University
The University of Washington
Purdue University
The University of Tennessee
The University of Pittsburgh
But um... we should've beat USC!
Gonzo
01-02-2006, 10:23 PM
I'm not saying their schedule wasn't lacking all around, but maybe I misunderstood your intial post. They did play a good team in USC, and another one in tOSU. They fought hard in both games and lost, which brings me to the conclusion that I think they'll be NC contenders within a couple years, hopefully.
Joey Slugs
01-02-2006, 10:49 PM
Tough loss for the Irish tonight but they now have a HUGE base on which to build on now. Quinn for Heisman in 2006!
I tell ya though, that Ginn kid impressed the hell out of me.
Gonzo
01-02-2006, 11:03 PM
Yeah he is good. I think the race for Heisman next year is going to be between Vince Young, Brady Quinn and maybe even Troy Smith. If he plays like he did against the Irish next year, he is definitely a candidate.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-02-2006, 11:27 PM
Too bad that fumble return got called back, it would have made the game more interesting.
I'm real surprised by WVU right now, I really didn't see the Big East champ being able to run all over the SEC Champ - but I guess I was wrong.
RoXer
01-03-2006, 12:44 AM
Man, Georgia wasn't even expecting that.
Boomer
01-03-2006, 12:46 AM
That was a hell of a call. Wow.
Boomer
01-03-2006, 12:46 AM
Being a UGA student, it hurts.
Just a little.
Gonzo
01-03-2006, 01:16 AM
Too bad that fumble return got called back, it would have made the game more interesting.
I'm real surprised by WVU right now, I really didn't see the Big East champ being able to run all over the SEC Champ - but I guess I was wrong.
Yeah shocked me. I guess I can't really say WVU was a bad team or whatever cause I've never seen them play this year. But the Big East is without a doubt the weakest conference in D-1A ball, which made me think that and I thought Georgia was going to roll. Damn was I wrong. From the looks of it Georgia came back and made it some sort of game.
The Outlaw
01-03-2006, 01:33 AM
Not to be a D-Bag but I am pretty sure Matt Jones was selected as a WR out of Arkansas lol
He even played a little wideout while in college too, much like Marcus Robinson from Penn State. I am about 99% sure Robinson will be a wide out in the NFL.
He didn't play WR much at all in college. They would line him up there once a game MAYBE because I'm pretty sure they had a fast backup and would mix it up a little. He had like 4 career receptions. Believe me, he played QB 99.9% of the time. What I was stating is that they took him as a QB on draft day but it was implied that he would be a WR. I posted that without really thinking about it because I knew he went through the combines and such as a WR.
Supreme Olajuwon
01-03-2006, 01:49 AM
http://enquirer.com/editions/2003/01/04/photos/osutresselo600.jpg
Fear the sweater vest
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-03-2006, 03:13 AM
But the Big East is without a doubt the weakest conference in D-1A ball,.No it's not. Weakest BCS conference- yeah. Weakest conference in all of D1A? Dunno about all that
West Virgina is gonna be real serious for the next few years, with the QB and RB both only being sophomores next season.
Gonzo
01-03-2006, 10:06 AM
No it's not. Weakest BCS conference- yeah. Weakest conference in all of D1A? Dunno about all that
West Virgina is gonna be real serious for the next few years, with the QB and RB both only being sophomores next season.
Yeah shit thats what I meant lol. Weakest BCS conference.
I didn't realize how good WVU really is. I think Louisville will be someone to watch out for in the next 5-10 years.
The Outlaw
01-03-2006, 01:55 PM
QB from WVU is NASTY. Damn Bama Boy too. :(
Innovator
01-03-2006, 02:16 PM
How many times did they show Quinn's sister/Hawk's girlfriend? Damn thats all they talked about.
Joey Slugs
01-03-2006, 02:24 PM
How many times did they show Quinn's sister/Hawk's girlfriend? Damn thats all they talked about.
god that was fucking annoying.
Innovator
01-03-2006, 03:53 PM
I was convinced last night she was a guy, I think I saw an atom's apple
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-03-2006, 10:12 PM
http://enquirer.com/editions/2003/01/04/photos/osutresselo600.jpg
Fear the sweater vest
http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/football/college/img9141397.jpg
THE Ohio State University
Man it would suck to be that Penn St kicker right about now.
What a game. I bet that kicker gets one mroe shot.
The Greater Power
01-04-2006, 12:47 AM
This game has been nuts
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-04-2006, 01:11 AM
Wooowww what a game. #7 from Florida State is a fucking beast, I can't believe he was only starting because of Nicholson being sent home.
el fregadero
01-04-2006, 02:46 AM
7 is Buster Davis, he always starts at LB. Did you mean McGrew (44 I think) because he was the one in instead of Nicholson.
Also that game was insane. I was watching it at work and kept shouting from the back, I'm pretty sure no customers ever heard me though.
RGWhat316
01-04-2006, 03:06 AM
This game was insane. I really only watch full football games of teams that I like, and I am a big Penn State fan. I was screaming at the tv for half of the damn game. Finally on the 3rd overtime, they pulled out the victory.
el fregadero
01-04-2006, 03:08 AM
Same thing, other team.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-04-2006, 03:40 AM
I thought McGrew moved from the inside to the outside (to replace Nicholson) and Davis became the starter at the middle? I know Davis started last year, but for some reason I was thinking McGrew took over the starting position in the middle this season.
el fregadero
01-04-2006, 03:45 AM
Hmm, that might be right. If Nicholson would keep himself inline it wouldn't matter, which sucks because he is a splendid player.
Jerichoholic
01-04-2006, 04:38 AM
Tonight I feel in Love with Ethan Kilmer.
Wayne Chrebet II.
Skippord
01-05-2006, 12:41 AM
HOOK EM HORNS
Joey Slugs
01-05-2006, 12:42 AM
GREATEST COLLEGE GAME EVER!
LMAO @ ESPN declaring USC basically the greatest college football team of all-time and they don't even win the championship.
Joey Slugs
01-05-2006, 12:49 AM
LMAO @ ESPN declaring USC basically the greatest college football team of all-time and they don't even win the championship.
Greatest team of all time v the greatest QB of all time.
The Miz
01-05-2006, 12:50 AM
Ok I know its the heat of the moment, but please do not call Vince Young the greatest Qb ever please.
Joey Slugs
01-05-2006, 12:52 AM
Ok I know its the heat of the moment, but please do not call Vince Young the greatest Qb ever please.
I have NEVER seen a college QB do what he has done in his career. Tonight proved it.
Joey Slugs
01-05-2006, 12:55 AM
Lee Corso just said that Vince Young should be the #1 pick next year to his hometown Texans. Then the Texans can trade Carr for some OL help.
Sounds like a sound plan to me.
Lee Corso just said that Vince Young should be the #1 pick next year to his hometown Texans. Then the Texans can trade Carr for some OL help.
Sounds like a sound plan to me.
One problem. No one wants Carr.
Joey Slugs
01-05-2006, 12:59 AM
One problem. No one wants Carr.
Someone will. He really is a hell of a QB, it's just that the Texans have ZERO protection for him. Not Carr's fault.
Skippord
01-05-2006, 01:01 AM
Poor Carr gets sacked 40 times a game
Joey Slugs
01-05-2006, 01:04 AM
Poor Carr gets sacked 40 times a game
:lol:
Like I said, not his fault.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-05-2006, 01:14 AM
Vince Young played an amazing game tonight, one of the best performances I've seen out of a QB in a long time. I don't know if he should go #1 though, my opinion on him changed though, I think he will be able to make it as a NFL QB. I think he will be very much like a Mike Vick type QB. LOL at that bitch Leinhart though: "We're still the better team"
Lock it up. Even though I doubted them, Texas is the better team. Thinking about, who was the best team USC beat this year? People ragged on ND's schedule but ND was probably the best team USC faced all year - Look at who they played.
Sep 3 @Hawaii Won 63-17
Sep 17 Arkansas Won 70-17
Sep 24 @Oregon Won 45-13 (Who just lost to Oklahoma - who got smacked by Texas)
Oct 1 @Arizona St. Won 38-28
Oct 8 Arizona Won 42-21
Oct 15 @Notre Dame Won 34-31 (Probably the best team they played all year - who did ND beat exactly? - ND also lost to Ohio State, who Texas beat at the start of the season, in Ohio too)
Oct 22 @Washington Won 51-24
Oct 29 Washington St. Won 55-13
Nov 5 Stanford Won 51-21
Nov 12 @California Won 35-10
Nov 19 Fresno St. Won 50-42 (Frenso put 42 on 'em?)
Dec 3 UCLA Won 66-19 (UCLA could have also been chosen as one of their tougher opponents, this victory was impressive but UCLA also got smacked by Arizona during the season)
I think I am like a lot of other people, I just heard USC was so great forever and thought that they were untouchable. Looking at their schedule though, it wasn't exactly A+ strength or anything. Granted, you can only beat who they put in front of you, you can't try to say you are the greatest EVER with a schedule like that. USC is a great team, but Texas was better tonight and after I think about it I think Texas would win 8 out of 10 times againest USC. Not the other way around.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-05-2006, 01:16 AM
I wish somebody could have beaten USC earlier though, so I wouldn't have to had seen Abercrombie boy scroing a TD after the "Bush push" over and over and over.
And another thing on Young, I think if he came out now he would get big money and everything - but I think he would better off as a player if he stayed. One more year to really develop and grow into a QB would lead to a better and longer career I think - but saying no to all that money right now would probably be tough. I don't know his home situation either, how well off his family is or anything like that but that could, and should play a role in his decision.
Joey Slugs
01-05-2006, 01:27 AM
I think he will be very much like a Mike Vick type QB.
With a better arm, stronger legs, bigger & stronger body.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-05-2006, 01:59 AM
Well Vick is doing right now in the big stage, well Vince is still unproven.
Also, I think Vick is a better scrambler then Vince. Vick was just as amazing in college with his feet - there isn't a meeting room named in Vick's honor at Virgina Tech for nothing.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-05-2006, 02:12 AM
LenDale White is a sick fuck too, if there was any doubt before tonight he shattered it. He's a first round running back.
http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/PRB149010500_lower.jpg
Joey Slugs
01-05-2006, 02:27 AM
there isn't a meeting room named in Vick's honor at Virgina Tech for nothing.
and that is fucking sad. the guy played 2 years of college and IMO wasn't THAT great.
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Skippord
01-05-2006, 03:37 AM
LOL Young got more yards rushing this year than Vick did through two
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-05-2006, 02:37 PM
Wasn't that great? 1,800 yards passing and almost 2,500 rushing in 1999. You see how everyone is jumping on VY's joke after last night's game? That's how everyone was all season for Vick, he was just as gross in college man. Also you can't look at stats to see how good Vick is, he just isn't that type of QB. You can't compare him to your typical dropback QB, it's apples and oranges.
Joey Slugs
01-05-2006, 07:01 PM
So Young rushed for 4276 yards this year?
Wasn't that great? 1,800 yards passing and almost 2,500 rushing in 1999. You see how everyone is jumping on VY's joke after last night's game? That's how everyone was all season for Vick, he was just as gross in college man. Also you can't look at stats to see how good Vick is, he just isn't that type of QB. You can't compare him to your typical dropback QB, it's apples and oranges.
I might be a bit biased here since I have never liked Vick (college or pro). I have, in fact, been following Young since watching some of the games leading up to last year's Rose Bowl.
Joey Slugs
01-05-2006, 07:02 PM
Plus, I don't like how Vick is a run-first, pass-second QB.
Supreme Olajuwon
01-05-2006, 09:06 PM
So Young rushed for 4276 yards this year?
Wasn't that great? 1,800 yards passing and almost 2,500 rushing in 1999. You see how everyone is jumping on VY's joke after last night's game? That's how everyone was all season for Vick, he was just as gross in college man. Also you can't look at stats to see how good Vick is, he just isn't that type of QB. You can't compare him to your typical dropback QB, it's apples and oranges.
4276 is his passing yards + rushing yards for his career. If he rushed 1200 times in 20 games he'd prolly die.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-06-2006, 03:07 PM
haha shit I dunno what I was thinking, I was thinking those where his rush attempts. Since it would work to like 30 carries a game with a 4 yard average............that would work great
If he was a running back haha
The Outlaw
01-06-2006, 06:03 PM
Yeah, the doubts I had about Young's throwing ability aren't as strong. I certainly don't think he's the best QB ever, that's just ridiculous.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-06-2006, 07:33 PM
hahah Marcus Vick got kicked off the Va Tech football team today. I guess they had enough of him, he was in deep shit for stomping that defensive end during the Gator Bowl, and I guess he got pulled over or some shit without a valid licese. Nice work buddy
Joey Slugs
01-06-2006, 11:14 PM
hahah Marcus Vick got kicked off the Va Tech football team today. I guess they had enough of him, he was in deep shit for stomping that defensive end during the Gator Bowl, and I guess he got pulled over or some shit without a valid licese. Nice work buddy
With the 126th pick in the 2006 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders pick...
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-07-2006, 02:31 AM
He's an idiot, he actually could throw a really good ball on top of being able to run. I think with another year in college he would have been a first round pick.
The Outlaw
01-07-2006, 03:55 PM
He's an idiot, he actually could throw a really good ball on top of being able to run. I think with another year in college he would have been a first round pick.
You and me both...
If he just didn't like young girls/marijuana/alcohol/driving without a license while speeding/stomping on people's ankles.
Skippord
01-07-2006, 09:49 PM
Why did he step on that dudes ankle?
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-08-2006, 03:36 PM
haha pretty well
I really don't know why he did it though, it was a clean hit and everything. It honestly wasn't even that big of a hit at all either. I guess the people at the Gator Bowl said the entire Va Tech team was a bunch of shit heads, and where classless and all that. Va Tech is like a wanna be Miami or FSU, just a bunch of dicks acting like retards. Atleast FSU and Miami are cool, Va Tech is like the JV version. haha
It was pretty weak too because doing that to somebody could fuck up their knee if you step on them the wrong way, he did it to a guy who is a kinda highly rated NFL prospect as a pass rush specialist.
Gonzo
01-08-2006, 03:42 PM
I frequent these college football boards and some of the guys on there said that the player Vick stepped on was playing dirty that game or something, take that for what you will, let me go get some quotes.
Gonzo
01-08-2006, 03:48 PM
First of all here is a video of what Vick did:
http://media.putfile.com/VT-THUG-1
no, because Dumervil got a taste of his own medicine.
Dumervil is a complete douche, and is 100x dirtier than Marcus Vick.
Ask Micheal Aitcheson, who Dumervil punched in the throat, or Terry Cauley, Dumervil put a thumb in his eye at the bottom of a pile. Dumervil also took a running start at Andre Woodson, and instead of sacking him up high, he dove at his knees, and Woodson was not running away, he was completely blindsided by Dumervil.
Vick probably just got fed up with Dumervil's shit and game him a good stomp.
Personally I would have like to seen Vick kick Dumervil in the teeth and piss on him.
What I believe to be an excellent point:
Exactly. I don't agree with players doing shit like that, but Vick is only different than a lot players for one reason. he actually go caught doing it on camera, while they do it under the pile or in the trenches.
I'm not defending Vick's actions either, but I guess we'll see where he goes in the draft.
The Outlaw
01-08-2006, 06:01 PM
Yeah, he stepped on his ankle because he was pissed off that the guy hit a DIFFERENT QB low, who Vick probably doesn't know at all. Seems like I haven't seen that guy's dirty tactics on ESPN or anything. I mean, punching a guy in the throat would have made national coverage I am pretty sure.
Gonzo
01-08-2006, 07:36 PM
I never said thats why Vick did, neither did that guy. He was just making a point on how this stuff occurs all the time by a lot of players, but Vick got caught. Like I said, take it for what you will because who knows where this guy came up with all this, but you know as well as I that dirty play goes on all the time from a lot of guys.
Vick definitely is trouble with all the shit he has done, glad to see they finally booted him off the team. Lucky he was a junior so he could declare for the draft, or else he would be fucked for a year or two.
YOUR Hero
01-08-2006, 07:40 PM
Is the college season over?
Yeah, go ahead and unsticky this thread
YOUR Hero
01-08-2006, 07:57 PM
Thanks, CNM
The Outlaw
01-09-2006, 04:43 PM
Dirty hits and whatnot happen all the time, but you would think you would hear about thumbs in the eye and punching throats and everything.
Oh, and BTW.
Two days after declaring his intention to enter the NFL draft, Marcus Vick (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=135239) was arrested on Monday and charged with three counts of brandishing a firearm, the Suffolk, Va., police department said in a statement.
Vick, 21, turned himself in after police in Suffolk, Va., issued a warrant for his arrest, saying Vick pointed a weapon at a teenage male and two others in the parking lot at a McDonalds on Sunday night, the statement said.
The junior quarterback had been kicked off the team at Virginia Tech on Friday for his moves on and off the field, including an incident in the Jan. 2 Toyota Gator Bowl, when he was caught on tape stomping on the left calf of Louisville All-American defensive end Elvis Dumervil after a tackle.
Vick was suspended from school in 2004 because of several legal problems, and came under intense scrutiny this week after replays of his actions against Dumervil. Vick claimed it was accidental, but hurt his cause by claiming to have apologized to Dumervil, the NCAA sacks leader. Dumervil said he received no such apology.
The last straw came Friday, even as Beamer was preparing to offer Vick the option of accepting a two-game suspension or deciding to leave Virginia Tech.
A fax sent to Steger's office disclosed that Vick had been stopped for driving 38 mph in a 25 mph zone and driving with a revoked or suspended license on Dec. 17. Vick had told Beamer about the ticket for driving on a suspended license on Dec. 19, Beamer said, but had never mentioned to anyone that he'd also been caught speeding.
Vick's license had been taken away in August 2004 when he was cited for reckless driving and marijuana possession, but had been reinstated until a friend driving a car owned by Vick was pulled over and found to not have insurance, Beamer said.
In 24 career games, Vick threw for 2,868 yards, 19 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. He also ran 184 times for 492 yards and six TDs. A $10,000 bond was set for Vick.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2285819
I doubt an NFL team will risk it...
BCWWF
01-11-2006, 01:39 PM
Does the Miz still think that Vince Young is going to be drafted as a wide receiver?
Skippord
01-11-2006, 04:52 PM
I still wanna know why he stomped on Elvis' ankle
The Miz
01-11-2006, 09:51 PM
Does the Miz still think that Vince Young is going to be drafted as a wide receiver?
I never said that one time in this thread. I said he will not start at QB in the NFL. Good job putting words in my mouth though, that's all you're ever good for.
BCWWF
01-15-2006, 06:05 AM
For all the shit you talk against VEL, you contradict yourself right here. You were adament two pages back that Vince Young will not be drafted to or ever play quarterback in the NFL. Besides that being an uninformed opinion, instead of acknowledging that Young could very well be the first overall pick in the NFL draft, you decide to defend yourself because you never typed the words "wide receiver."
So tell me Miz, if the Houston Texans end up drafting Vince Young, a national champion and Heisman Trophy runner up as quarterback, No. 1 in the NFL draft, what's it going to be as? An offensive guard maybe?
The Miz
01-15-2006, 11:02 AM
Yeah I was thinking he would try the NFL as a WR, but isn't he pretty big? Maybe he could play TE, I have no idea how his blocking and pass catching skills are though. I just know he's a good athlete and might be able to find a place to play. I guarantee you he will not start an NFL game at QB though.
He'll be drafted as a QB, no question, so was Antwaan Randle El.
I've seen Young play, and I don't think he has the passing skills to be a good NFL QB. I do think he is a great athlete and would be better suited at another position. I could be wrong, I could be right; so until Vince Young has proven himself as a bust or a great QB, there's really nothing to talk about here.
Yes, Young will be selected with one of the first 3 picks, as a QB. Happy now?
BCWWF
01-15-2006, 12:52 PM
I wish you were more stubborn
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-21-2006, 01:31 AM
Antwaan Randle El, much like Matt Jones, was drafted to play wide reciever. Playing Wideout in the Senior Bowl just like Jones, it wasn't like the Steelers took him as a QB and decided to make him a wideout. Nobody expects Young to play wideout (I still think he is a bit overrated after the game, I still iffy on Young's passing skills for the NFL but we'll see) So you can't really compare him to Randle El.
Jesus Shuttlesworth
01-21-2006, 01:32 AM
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